Okay I’m putting up $100. Can I get five people to put in $20 to match me?

I’m in.

Howie!

Jane Hamsher @ 1

Okay I’m putting up $100. Can I get five people to put in $20 to match me?

I hope you get 5 people, Jane. I’m sending in another $100 (sent $60 last night, too).

President ratchets up rhetoric against Dems as midterm elections near
Updated: 35 minutes ago

SELLERSBURG, Ind. – President Bush, campaigning aggressively ahead of the high-stakes Nov. 7 elections, said Saturday Democrats should not be trusted to control Congress because they have no idea how to win in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15460292/

For you, Ms. H…of course!

ifthethunderdontgetya @
3

Jane Hamsher @ 1

Okay I’m putting up $100. Can I get five people to put in $20 to match me?

I hope you get 5 people, Jane. I’m sending in another $100 (sent $60 last night, too).

You’re the bomb.

RBG @
5

For you, Ms. H…of course!

For Howie too!

Okay Jane, I’m in for $20.

Everyone make sure that donations for this ad buy for Trupiano go to Blue America PAC not his individual candidate page

scarecrow @
2

I’m in.

Howie!

Thanks, scarecrow.

I was telling RGB last night the story of how I’ve known Howie since I was a teenager in SF and he was a dj on KSAN.

We didn’t see each other again till Johnny Wendell hooked us up last year. I found that Howie was full-time blogging every day starting at 5:30 am but he didn’t know how to make a link and hence nobody ever went to his site.

I finally convinced him that he needed to know how to make one and then told him he had to start posting over at DailyKos (which he’d never heard of). One of his first diaries came just after the DSCC ran Paul Hackett out of the race and Howie wrote this big diatribe and the next thing he knew he had 800 comments, it was at the top of the recommended diaries list and the whole thing had devolved into WWIII.

He called me up and said “what the hell is this?” And the rest is history.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 4

President ratchets up rhetoric against Dems as midterm elections near
Updated: 35 minutes ago

SELLERSBURG, Ind. – President Bush, campaigning aggressively ahead of the high-stakes Nov. 7 elections, said Saturday Democrats should not be trusted to control Congress because they have no idea how to win in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15460292/

Republicans, not sure that irony is truly dead in the wake of Henry Kissinger’s Nobel Peace prize, continue to savage its corpse.

Drive by …

Woohoo!!!

Howie rawks!!!

I’m at Charlie Brown’s headquarters right now phone-banking (’bout 200 calls, so far) for Charlie and Rob Haswell, and earlier I was door to door canvassing (’bout 100 houses).

Keep up the fight!

Had enuf?

Got more phone calls to make

P.S. Ooooh, Jan Brown just walked in and grabbed a piece of blueberry pie

Jane Hamsher @
7

RBG @
5

For you, Ms. H…of course!

For Howie too!

D’oh…how could I be so unthinking. Howie is da bomb.

Oklahoma kiddo @
4

President ratchets up rhetoric against Dems as midterm elections near
Updated: 35 minutes ago

SELLERSBURG, Ind. – President Bush, campaigning aggressively ahead of the high-stakes Nov. 7 elections, said Saturday Democrats should not be trusted to control Congress because they have no idea how to win in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15460292/

That may be the first honest thing Bush has said in months. What he neglected to mention is that no one has any idea how to “win” in Iraq. That’s why they call it a quagmire. He also failed to note that it is the President who is mostly in charge of foreign policy, and that he has refused to listen to anyone outside his immediate circle of neocon whackos anyway.

Mr. Klein will have much to celebrate on Nov. 8. And so shall we.

Valley Girl @ 8

Okay Jane, I’m in for $20.

Everyone make sure that donations for this ad buy for Trupiano go to Blue America PAC not his individual candidate page

Thanks, VG. Yes, there can be no $$$ going back and forth from the campaign to the PAC, so the money neeeds to go to Blue America.

Jane Hamsher @ 9

scarecrow @
2

I’m in.

Howie!

Thanks, scarecrow.

I was telling RGB last night the story of how I’ve known Howie since I was a teenager in SF and he was a dj on KSAN.

We didn’t see each other again till Johnny Wendell hooked us up last year. I found that Howie was full-time blogging every day starting at 5:30 am but he didn’t know how to make a link and hence nobody ever went to his site.

I finally convinced him that he needed to know how to make one and then told him he had to start posting over at DailyKos (which he’d never heard of). One of his first diaries came just after the DSCC ran Paul Hackett out of the race and Howie wrote this big diatribe and the next thing he knew he had 800 comments, it was at the top of the recommended diaries list and the whole thing had devolved into WWIII.

He called me up and said “what the hell is this?” And the rest is history.

That’s a great story. Howie has been awesome, and gave us all a chance to be involved more directly. Kinda like fdl. I could have told him you are a dangerous woman, but it’s too late. And punaise is still complaining about this woman who sat behind him who kept making running commentary last night in Berkeley.

I was telling RGB last night the story of how I’ve known Howie since I was a teenager in SF and he was a dj on KSAN.

When was this? I was at UC Berkeley beginning in 1964, and was there for FSM, Mario Savio, etc. Clark Kerr rubbing Ronald Reagan the wrong way, which got a 10% cut in UC funding the next year. It was the start of the “stupid years.”

Jane Hamsher @ 1

Okay I’m putting up $100. Can I get five people to put in $20 to match me?

I love that ad! LOL Okay, here’s another $20

Scarecrow…are you saying what I think you’re saying? I didn’t pick up on the part of punaise’s complaint that we might know the woman behind him.

Jane Hamsher @
1

Okay I’m putting up $100. Can I get five people to put in $20 to match me?

I’m in for twenty.

john in sacramento @
11

Drive by …

Woohoo!!!

Howie rawks!!!

I’m at Charlie Brown’s headquarters right now phone-banking (’bout 200 calls, so far) for Charlie and Rob Haswell, and earlier I was door to door canvassing (’bout 100 houses).

Keep up the fight!

Had enuf?

Got more phone calls to make

P.S. Ooooh, Jan Brown just walked in and grabbed a piece of blueberry pie

And twenty more to Charlie brown for extra blueberry pie!

I’ve been checking out the totals for the BA PAC- great response so far- looks like more people contributing than are owning up here! Remember, even $5 helps. Especially if 50 people (more) do that! And that’s not such a stretch, considering how supportive people have been for the $5 effort.

RBG @ 19

Scarecrow…are you saying what I think you’re saying? I didn’t pick up on the part of punaise’s complaint that we might know the woman behind him.

I’m just repeating what punaise said. The Lady remains anonymous . . .

Ah… Berkeley in the sixties. Fog in the morning. Music and speeches in the afternoon. The ghosts of the speakers of liberty linger on the steps of Sproul Hall.

I wonder if there is some psychological barrier generally to contributing the first time to Blue America… I kinda remember that. But it is actually quite easy! Give it a try for a fiver! And, make sure you put the credit card back in the wallet. I didn’t and showed up for grocery shopping (full cart) recently, with no debit/credit card!!! and, no cash, and no checks… ouch!

$25 towards your match, Jane, plus a tip for the ActBlue tireless ones.

GO TONY!

Any candidate who quotes Ghandi on his website is to be encouraged. More, please!

Great ad. Thanks, Howie, for all you’ve done for our country, our party, and our hope this year.

Jane..Howie tells the same story in his on-line video interview. I don’t know him, but the amount of work he does to change this despicable government is truly amazing.

BTW..What does Howie have planned for Joe on Monday?

Valley Girl @ 21

I’ve been checking out the totals for the BA PAC- great response so far- looks like more people contributing than are owning up here! Remember, even $5 helps. Especially if 50 people (more) do that! And that’s not such a stretch, considering how supportive people have been for the $5 effort.

I was waiting to see how long it would take for the tubes to show my contribution…at 7:14 we were at 1,125 and $36,481.27.

Then I got distracted by this ludicrous “Jim Webb is a pornographer” poo flinging and posted at Not Larry Sabato.

Now (well at 7:29) it’s 1,132 and $37,187.42

Rock on, firepups!

TeddySanFran @ 25

$25 towards your match, Jane, plus a tip for the ActBlue tireless ones.

GO TONY!

Any candidate who quotes Ghandi on his website is to be encouraged. More, please!

Great ad. Thanks, Howie, for all you’ve done for our country, our party, and our hope this year.

Thanks! I hope the tip part goes without saying. I did that too. They are providing a great “free” service at ActBlue.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 23

Ah… Berkeley in the sixties. Fog in the morning. Music and speeches in the afternoon. The ghosts of the speakers of liberty linger on the steps of Sproul Hall.

Do you remember the preacher ??? who gave screaming sermons about our need for salvation just outside Sproul Hall? He had freckles and red hair, and when he got worked up about God, the Devil and evil, he looked like a ripe tomato about to burst. He was a landmark.

Howie,

There aren’t words to express how much I admire you and love you. If’n I had a hat on — it would be off, to you. (For you too, Miz Hamsher)

Pump Up The Volume for Tony’s ad!

An SF “Howie” story? Well, I once stumbled drunkenly out of THE STUD (when it was across the street from Hamburger Mary’s) and into an open doorway a few steps down. Inside was a band rehearsing some song I’d never heard before, but knew it would be a hit. The female was singing something about “I might like you better if we slept together…”

Never say never, indeed. Strange how our lives intermingle and cross at different times.

scarecrow @ 29

Oklahoma kiddo @ 23

Ah… Berkeley in the sixties. Fog in the morning. Music and speeches in the afternoon. The ghosts of the speakers of liberty linger on the steps of Sproul Hall.

Do you remember the preacher ??? who gave screaming sermons about our need for salvation just outside Sproul Hall? He had freckles and red hair, and when he got worked up about God, the Devil and evil, he looked like a ripe tomato about to burst. He was a landmark.

Holy sh*t. Yeah, I remember that guy. I worked for the Berkeley Free Clinc in late 1970, early 1971

ifthethunderdontgetya- I checked this out before when I was rounding up enthusiam for Robert Rodriguez- the donations seem to appear virtually immediately on the total. What I also find interesting is the total raised by Blue America for the candidates so far: $489,217.04 – vs. the total amount raised for those candidates at Act Blue: this shows up as $4,123,409.41, but it surely must be *$14,123,409.41*- just no space for the extra one mil! So, Blue America has raised nearly half a million dollars!!! so far!!!!!!

Jacqrat @ 30

Howie,

There aren’t words to express how much I admire you and love you. If’n I had a hat on — it would be off, to you. (For you too, Miz Hamsher)

Pump Up The Volume for Tony’s ad!

An SF “Howie” story? Well, I once stumbled drunkenly out of THE STUD (when it was across the street from Hamburger Mary’s) and into an open doorway a few steps down. Inside was a band rehearsing some song I’d never heard before, but knew it would be a hit. The female was singing something about “I might like you better if we slept together…”

Never say never, indeed. Strange how our lives intermingle and cross at different times.

I remember that song, from my punk rock daze.

P.S. My punk rock daze continues to this day.

In for $20, 2 for ActBlue. Did I match anyone?

scarecrow @
22

RBG @ 19

Scarecrow…are you saying what I think you’re saying? I didn’t pick up on the part of punaise’s complaint that we might know the woman behind him.

I’m just repeating what punaise said. The Lady remains anonymous . . .

Well it goes without saying that punaise would know that a gentleman always respects a lady’s privacy.

Balrog @ 34

In for $20, 2 for ActBlue. Did I match anyone?

I haven’t been keeping track exactly, but I think you matched Jane- she wanted 5 for $20 to match her $100. TeddySF went wide and messed up with $25, but there’s still one slot open. Anyone????

scarecrow @
16

I could have told him you are a dangerous woman, but it’s too late. And punaise is still complaining about this woman who sat behind him who kept making running commentary last night in Berkeley.

I swear it wasn’t me, I was over at the Pope’s and I was going to go but then Markos advised Howie that Tony Trupiano would be a great candidate for the Stamp Act campaign and I had to go home and do research for the ad.

Besides I don’t talk during these things, I now send email on my Crackberry.

I’m very touched by all the kind words. And more than anything else I’m very proud to be part of this awesome team. And I don’t only mean Jane and Christy and Pach and Jacquie and David and the others who work on this project. I mean all 5,732 people who have donated what they could for these efforts to save our country. I feel very humbled to be working with all of you. Thank you so much. And next Tuesday we’re gonna stomp these damned fascists into the ground like our grandparents did last time they reared their ugly heads in the 40s.

Cozumel @ 31

scarecrow @ 29

Oklahoma kiddo @ 23

Ah… Berkeley in the sixties. Fog in the morning. Music and speeches in the afternoon. The ghosts of the speakers of liberty linger on the steps of Sproul Hall.

Do you remember the preacher ??? who gave screaming sermons about our need for salvation just outside Sproul Hall? He had freckles and red hair, and when he got worked up about God, the Devil and evil, he looked like a ripe tomato about to burst. He was a landmark.

Holy sh*t. Yeah, I remember that guy. I worked for the Berkeley Free Clinc in late 1970, early 1971

I think his name was Hubert. You’d have to walk by him to get to class from the South side, Telegraph Ave area, and he’d be yelling about sin and repentance; so you knew that if you did’t repent by the time to you got to your first class, you were probably doomed for all eternity. I’m convinced there’s some connection to why we have George Bush. It’s probably my fault!

scarecrow @ 29

Oklahoma kiddo @ 23

Ah… Berkeley in the sixties. Fog in the morning. Music and speeches in the afternoon. The ghosts of the speakers of liberty linger on the steps of Sproul Hall.

Do you remember the preacher ??? who gave screaming sermons about our need for salvation just outside Sproul Hall? He had freckles and red hair, and when he got worked up about God, the Devil and evil, he looked like a ripe tomato about to burst. He was a landmark.

I’ve got this guy, and some of the police actions in Berkeley on 8mm film. What times those were. I recall Berkeley at night too. Remember the driftwood sculptures down by the water?

Howie, how do you feel about having been part of raising nearly half a million bucks (so far) via Blue America? I think that what you have encouraged, seeded, put together, supported is an awesome effort. Funny, all you needed to do was discover the power of links to unleash the inner Howie!!!! xxxooo

scarecrow @ 39

Cozumel @ 31

scarecrow @ 29

Oklahoma kiddo @ 23

Ah… Berkeley in the sixties. Fog in the morning. Music and speeches in the afternoon. The ghosts of the speakers of liberty linger on the steps of Sproul Hall.

Do you remember the preacher ??? who gave screaming sermons about our need for salvation just outside Sproul Hall? He had freckles and red hair, and when he got worked up about God, the Devil and evil, he looked like a ripe tomato about to burst. He was a landmark.

Holy sh*t. Yeah, I remember that guy. I worked for the Berkeley Free Clinc in late 1970, early 1971

I think his name was Hubert. You’d have to walk by him to get to class from the South side, Telegraph Ave area, and he’d be yelling about sin and repentance; so you knew that if you did’t repent by the time to you got to your first class, you were probably doomed for all eternity. I’m convinced there’s some connection to why we have George Bush. It’s probably my fault!

He was the ‘yer gonna burn in a lake of fire’ guy. ; ) LOL

Jane Hamsher @ 37

scarecrow @
16

I could have told him you are a dangerous woman, but it’s too late. And punaise is still complaining about this woman who sat behind him who kept making running commentary last night in Berkeley.

I swear it wasn’t me, I was over at the Pope’s and I was going to go but then Markos advised Howie that Tony Trupiano would be a great candidate for the Stamp Act campaign and I had to go home and do research for the ad.

Besides I don’t talk during these things, I now send email on my Crackberry.

Oh, Jane, that’s about the lamest story I’ve heard. You’re telling me you went all the way to Berkeley to hear Lakoff, et al, and kos sees you (he’s at the same meeting, right?) and says, “Jane, go home and do your homework.” And since you’re “the girl,” you do what he says???

There is obviously a lot more to this story, and now the cover story is out there. More will leak out. And has anyone noticed that punaise has disappeared?

Howie is my hero, and I’m joining in, too, because he took the time to teach me how to fundraise. He sent me CDs to encourage people. I cannot say enough good things about Howie. What a difference he and everyone else joining in has made. I am proud to be even a small part of the efforts.

Howie Klein @ 38

I’m very touched by all the kind words. And more than anything else I’m very proud to be part of this awesome team. And I don’t only mean Jane and Christy and Pach and Jacquie and David and the others who work on this project. I mean all 5,732 people who have donated what they could for these efforts to save our country. I feel very humbled to be working with all of you. Thank you so much. And next Tuesday we’re gonna stomp these damned fascists into the ground like our grandparents did last time they reared their ugly heads in the 40s.

Thank you, Howie. CHS had a beach picture up today, as an example of an image that brings you serenity. I love the water, and especially the ocean. Yet I just moved to Ohio…oh well, global warming might bring the beach to me.

But what I was finally getting around to saying is this: Act Blue brings me serenity.

And I thank you, and Jane, and Christy, and all of Firedoglake for it.

scarecrow @
17

I was telling RGB last night the story of how I’ve known Howie since I was a teenager in SF and he was a dj on KSAN.

When was this? I was at UC Berkeley beginning in 1964, and was there for FSM, Mario Savio, etc. Clark Kerr rubbing Ronald Reagan the wrong way, which got a 10% cut in UC funding the next year. It was the start of the “stupid years.”

It was the late 70s. I was at the Bay Guardian writing about punk rock & there were a lot of Berkeley refugees there (Art Goldberg, Paul Krassner) as well as young reporter David Johnston. Crazy days — People’s temple, Dan White/Harvey Milk, Biafra for mayor. I wrote the cover story for the first free issue of the Guardian in 1979 on Biafra’s mayoral run & got really angry when Biafra called Diane Feinstin a “dangerous reptile” and Bruce Bruggman wouldn’t print it. David J. told me to cool off and pick my battles, that I’d get a chance to use it one day.

I’m still waiting for the perfect moment.

Bruce said he hated that story and was sorry he’d run it but now Biafra is a SF icon and when the Guardian had its 25th anniversary it was chosen as the best story of 1979.

You hang in there long enough, you get the last laugh.

Valley Girl @ 41

Howie, how do you feel about having been part of raising nearly half a million bucks (so far) via Blue America? I think that what you have encouraged, seeded, put together, supported is an awesome effort. Funny, all you needed to do was discover the power of links to unleash the inner Howie!!!! xxxooo

I’m a team player and this is the best team I’ve ever played on… ever!

Saturday night’s a busy time over at the Orangerie, but this may help our ad fundage for Tony a little bit. You who bow to Master Kos might give this diary a rec, to keep it afloat this evening and add to BlueAmerica’s ad buy:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/28/195541/99

Oklahoma Kiddo

I’ve got this guy, and some of the police actions in Berkeley on 8mm film. What times those were. I recall Berkeley at night too. Remember the driftwood sculptures down by the water?

Yes, they remained for decades. In the 60s, I remember barricades and bonfires on Telegraph Avenue, followed by the “Blue Meanies” and getting clubbed and tear gassed several times just coming back from the Library one at night.

Valley Girl @ 32

ifthethunderdontgetya- I checked this out before when I was rounding up enthusiam for Robert Rodriguez- the donations seem to appear virtually immediately on the total. What I also find interesting is the total raised by Blue America for the candidates so far: $489,217.04 – vs. the total amount raised for those candidates at Act Blue: this shows up as $4,123,409.41, but it surely must be *$14,123,409.41*- just no space for the extra one mil! So, Blue America has raised nearly half a million dollars!!! so far!!!!!!

Here’s how I read those numbers…Act Blue has raised over $15 million for all candidates who use their service. Our own Blue America is just shy of raising $500k for all our candidates. The $4 million number you see is all dollars raised for our candidates by all ActBlue sources. Does that make sense?

Hey, someone just made a $10 donation to Blue America PAC, and I would like to celebrate that person. (I don’t have access to info, just tracking the totals.)

I would like to celebrate that person, because a $10 contribution is a great thing! Don’t be shy… $5 or $10… it’s not the amount of individual donations, it’s about the total number of people contributing. Thanks!!!!

Howie’s comment about the fascists isn’t hyperbole. Americans were always smug with the knowledge that “it couldn’t happen here”. Well it sure a shit has happened here. The Third Reich lasted 12 years; Nov is the 12th year of the Repub-Reich. May it end and the prosecutions can begin.

K, nuther sawbuck tonite!

Valley Girl @ 51

Hey, someone just made a $10 donation to Blue America PAC, and I would like to celebrate that person. (I don’t have access to info, just tracking the totals.)

I would like to celebrate that person, because a $10 contribution is a great thing! Don’t be shy… $5 or $10… it’s not the amount of individual donations, it’s about the total number of people contributing. Thanks!!!!

TeddySanFran @ 48

Saturday night’s a busy time over at the Orangerie, but this may help our ad fundage for Tony a little bit. You who bow to Master Kos might give this diary a rec, to keep it afloat this evening and add to BlueAmerica’s ad buy:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/28/195541/99

I’m so excited, Teddy, I was the first person to recommend your diary. That’s the first time I was ever first on a Kos diary recommendation, even though I get bombarded every single day by the blog squads of every candidate we’ve ever had on FDL– especially those relentless McNerney folks, bless their hearts.

* pop *

Valley Girl @
41

Howie, how do you feel about having been part of raising nearly half a million bucks (so far) via Blue America? I think that what you have encouraged, seeded, put together, supported is an awesome effort. Funny, all you needed to do was discover the power of links to unleash the inner Howie!!!! xxxooo

Is that all? Shit, my wife accused me of spending a half million on my own.

Hurts so good. Love you people!

RBG @ 50

Valley Girl @ 32

ifthethunderdontgetya- I checked this out before when I was rounding up enthusiam for Robert Rodriguez- the donations seem to appear virtually immediately on the total. What I also find interesting is the total raised by Act Blue (corrected) for the candidates so far: $489,217.04 – vs. the total amount raised for those candidates at Act Blue: this shows up as $4,123,409.41, but it surely must be *$14,123,409.41*- just no space for the extra one mil! So, Blue America has raised nearly half a million dollars!!! so far!!!!!!

Here’s how I read those numbers…Act Blue has raised over $15 million for all candidates who use their service. Our own Blue America is just shy of raising $500k for all our candidates. The $4 million number you see is all dollars raised for our candidates by all ActBlue sources. Does that make sense?

Okay, RBG… I was not paying attention properly. You are correct. I think an extra column has been added on the BA page, which I didn’t notice. At one point, the total for funds raised by BlueAmerica for the candidates exceeded the total said to be raised totally by Act Blue… so at that point, the extra column had not been added. Sorry, I just spaced out, and was not paying attention- but you must be correct.

Hey Jane,
I’ll gladly toss in for another $20.

It sickens me to think of my state (michigan) as a rubber stamp for Shrub and Company.

Up your ass Karl Rove, from the oddballs and miscreants!

Jane at 46: Jello Biafra? That Biafra? From wikipedia:

Eric Reed Boucher (born June 17, 1958), better known by the stage name Jello Biafra, is an American punk rock musician and political activist best known as the former lead singer and song writer of the Dead Kennedys. After the band disbanded, he became a solo musician and spoken word artist, releasing several albums based on both careers on his record label, Alternative Tentacles. In his political life, he is an active member of the Green Party[1] and participates in activism relating to his progressive political beliefs. He is a self-proclaimed anarchist[1] , and advocates civil disobedience and pranksterism in the name of political change. Biafra is known to use absurdist media tactics in the tradition of the Yippies to highlight issues of civil rights, social justice, and anti-corporatism.

Bruce said he hated that story and was sorry he’d run it but now Biafra is a SF icon and when the Guardian had its 25th anniversary it was chosen as the best story of 1979.

First fdl blog.

More fun in Gaza:

A not so dry-run practice for the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

The Israeli daily newspaper Maariv reported on Friday that precision-guided weapons would be used to penetrate deep underground in the hope of destroying the tunnel network that the Jewish state says riddles the area, which is 6.5 miles long and approximately 330 feet wide.

Iran?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 61

More fun in Gaza:

A not so dry-run practice for the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

The Israeli daily newspaper Maariv reported on Friday that precision-guided weapons would be used to penetrate deep underground in the hope of destroying the tunnel network that the Jewish state says riddles the area, which is 6.5 miles long and approximately 330 feet wide.

raven @ 62

Iran?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 61

More fun in Gaza:

A not so dry-run practice for the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

The Israeli daily newspaper Maariv reported on Friday that precision-guided weapons would be used to penetrate deep underground in the hope of destroying the tunnel network that the Jewish state says riddles the area, which is 6.5 miles long and approximately 330 feet wide.

Yes, should be Iran.

I guess I wouldn’t be surprised if these dopes forgot we invaded Iraq and did it again. . .

Oklahoma kiddo @ 63

raven @ 62

Iran?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 61

More fun in Gaza:

A not so dry-run practice for the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

The Israeli daily newspaper Maariv reported on Friday that precision-guided weapons would be used to penetrate deep underground in the hope of destroying the tunnel network that the Jewish state says riddles the area, which is 6.5 miles long and approximately 330 feet wide.

Yes, should be Iran.

scarecrow,

I was there for this party and was almost hit by a tear gas cannister, missed me by about a foot.

In February (1971), when American troops began an invasion of Laos to cut the Ho Chi Minh trial, WCC called a rally on Sproul Plaza and thousands showed up, the biggest gathering of the year. They marched to the Atomic Energy Commission building on Bancroft to protest the deployment of nuclear weapons in Thailand. After police provocation, skirmishes broke out and an AEC car was burned. ; )

http://people.thirteen.net/~ti…..p3?page=10

Is there anyone else who feels that attacks on Iran would only make the Democratic landslide more complete?

My sense is that the response from voters would be that they can’t vote these nuts out soon enough.

You read it here first.

OT – the Hartford Courant endorsed Lieberman

Howie is one of those people I’m so fond of I can’t even try to talk about it without sounding. . . mushy.

It’s not often I’m stuck without words.

Howie Klein @ 47

Valley Girl @ 41

Howie, how do you feel about having been part of raising nearly half a million bucks (so far) via Blue America? I think that what you have encouraged, seeded, put together, supported is an awesome effort. Funny, all you needed to do was discover the power of links to unleash the inner Howie!!!! xxxooo

I’m a team player and this is the best team I’ve ever played on… ever!

We should also recognize another key team member…Mr. Amato and his friends at Crooks and Liars.

dab from CT @ 67

OT – the Hartford Courant endorsed Lieberman

That just makes me want to hurl. I was hoping for better. Screw them. And keep the faith.

“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” -

— Henry Mencken

Balrog @ 66

Is there anyone else who feels that attacks on Iran would only make the Democratic landslide more complete?

My sense is that the response from voters would be that they can’t vote these nuts out soon enough.

You read it here first.

Balrog @ 66

Is there anyone else who feels that attacks on Iran would only make the Democratic landslide more complete?

My sense is that the response from voters would be that they can’t vote these nuts out soon enough.

You read it here first.

Absolutely.

http://blogs.courant.com/colin…..log_p.html

This is so bizarre!!! How much of the petty cash did it take for the Lieberman Ad Buy?

~~~~Stop the Blog Presses

The Hartford Courant will endorse, tomorrow, Joe Lieberman, no surprise, and (get this!) John DeStefano over Gov. M. Jodi Rell.
The editorial gives her more props that she may actualyl deserve for cleaning up government, post-Rowland, but then says: “Her brand of small-steps stewardship is not what Connecticut needs to tackle some of its most acute problems over the next four years. It needs the boldness she promised when first appointed, but didn’t deliver. The state could use a visionary with big ideas, a dynamic leader not afraid to shake up the Land of Calcified Habits in order to effect real change. John DeStefano Jr. comes closer to filling that description.” ~~~

It seems that the view counters at YouTube are updated twice a day when you get over 100 views…

As of now, the new Goper’s Lament Video has been downloaded more than 322 times since it was posted yesterday at 4:00pm, but the counter is paused as of 4:20 this afternoon.

We should hit 500 downloads by midnight!

http://www.teocawki.blogspot.com

Cozumel — Interesting site. Thanks. We invaded Laos and students in Berkelely form mass demonstrations. One wonders what, if anything, would happen if we attack Iran? Unlike the poor Laotions, the Iranians can hit us back, hard. Where would it end? Maybe Hubert was right.

Iraqi leader playing on U.S. angst

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..mi_ea/iraq

How is Iran going to hit us back, by attacking American “interests” in the middle east?

scarecrow @ 75

Cozumel — Interesting site. Thanks. We invaded Laos and students in Berkelely form mass demonstrations. One wonders what, if anything, would happen if we attack Iran? Unlike the poor Laotions, the Iranians can hit us back, hard. Where would it end? Maybe Hubert was right.

http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006…..-liar.html

~~~Joe Lieberman is a Liar
This past Thursday, I attended the Milford DTC meeting (my first) and afterwards I spoke to DTC member James Quish.[]

Jim said that Lieberman called a second time before the convention trying to get his support. Needless to say, Jim Quish is a thinking Democrat, and he voted for the man he thought would work to stop the insanity in our Federal Government. Ned Lamont.

“No Jim, I will not run as an independent. That was something a Lamont supporter goaded me into saying.”

Even BEFORE the Convention, everything was Ned Lamont’s fault.

Joe Lieberman is a Liar. How can anyone in Connecticut vote for this man?~~~

ok, here’s really bad news (to me)

Did Israel use a secret new uranium-based weapon in southern Lebanon this summer in the 34-day assault that cost more than 1,300 Lebanese lives, most of them civilians?

We know that the Israelis used American “bunker-buster” bombs on Hizbollah’s Beirut headquarters. We know that they drenched southern Lebanon with cluster bombs in the last 72 hours of the war, leaving tens of thousands of bomblets which are still killing Lebanese civilians every week. And we now know – after it first categorically denied using such munitions – that the Israeli army also used phosphorous bombs, weapons which are supposed to be restricted under the third protocol of
the Geneva Conventions, which neither Israel nor the United States have signed.

http://www.informationclearing…..e15432.htm

read it and weep.

Valley Girl @ 70

dab from CT @ 67

OT – the Hartford Courant endorsed Lieberman

That just makes me want to hurl. I was hoping for better. Screw them. And keep the faith.

They endorsed every other Dem running except Lamont. Even DiStephano

dab- keep the faith!

raven @ 77

How is Iran going to hit us back, by attacking American “interests” in the middle east?

scarecrow @ 75

Cozumel — Interesting site. Thanks. We invaded Laos and students in Berkelely form mass demonstrations. One wonders what, if anything, would happen if we attack Iran? Unlike the poor Laotions, the Iranians can hit us back, hard. Where would it end? Maybe Hubert was right.

At a minimum I would not want to be part of the American troops in pro-Iranian Shia areas of Iraq. Mr. Sadr has already warned us.

Donations, calls and campaigning do not matter. They already stole 2 presidential elections (wide scale fraud). You really think they cannot steal House elections (small scale fraud)? This is the same group that managed to legalize warrantless wiretaps, suspend habeas corpus, ban books like “America Deceived” from Amazon, detain demonstrators and start 2 illegal wars based on lies. The Republicans will probably lose a few seats to make it look good but maintain a majority. Then they’ll invade Iran on behalf of Israel.
Support indy media.
Final link (before Google Books bends to gov’t will and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/books…..95-38523-0

Egypt prepares for Israeli Gaza raid
Saturday 28 October 2006, 23:42 Makka Time, 20:42 GMT

http://english.aljazeera.net/N…..B71544.htm

Just wondered what you were thinking. I wouldn’t want to be an American trooper in Iraq whether we attack Iran or not.
scarecrow @ 82

raven @ 77

How is Iran going to hit us back, by attacking American “interests” in the middle east?

scarecrow @ 75

Cozumel — Interesting site. Thanks. We invaded Laos and students in Berkelely form mass demonstrations. One wonders what, if anything, would happen if we attack Iran? Unlike the poor Laotions, the Iranians can hit us back, hard. Where would it end? Maybe Hubert was right.

At a minimum I would not want to be part of the American troops in pro-Iranian Shia areas of Iraq. Mr. Sadr has already warned us.

dab from CT — it was expected; they endorsed Joe in the primary. I found it interesting that their column had to ignore/minimize Iraq and Joe’s role in it, and ignored his torture vote, his bankruptcy vote, his energy vote, and his flip-flop on Social Security. Ned’s ads will ensure those issues are heard, and the voters decide, not the head-in-sand editorial board of the Hartford Courant.

scarecrow @ 86

dab from CT — it was expected; they endorsed Joe in the primary. I found it interesting that their column had to ignore/minimize Iraq and Joe’s role in it, and ignored his torture vote, his bankruptcy vote, his energy vote, and his flip-flop on Social Security. Ned’s ads will ensure those issues are heard, and the voters decide, not the head-in-sand editorial board of the Hartford Courant.

I looked for a link to the current editorial, but couldn’t find it. Linky?

scarecrow @ 86

dab from CT — it was expected; they endorsed Joe in the primary. I found it interesting that their column had to ignore/minimize Iraq and Joe’s role in it, and ignored his torture vote, his bankruptcy vote, his energy vote, and his flip-flop on Social Security. Ned’s ads will ensure those issues are heard, and the voters decide, not the head-in-sand editorial board of the Hartford Courant.

Actually, one of the liebertrolls on Ned’s blog was jumping up and down for joy that all the Dems had gotten endorsements – including Joe.

I pointed out that that was GREAT news – the other Dems will push Ned over the finish line – and too bad that the candidate for the CT for Lieberman party would be sixth or seventh on the ballot.

Haven’t heard an answer yet.

Valley Girl: General website link for Hartford Courant:

http://www.courant.com/

See endorsements in upper right hand corner. It’s been there all day.

VG – I don’t have the link – perhaps scarecrow?

dab from CT @ 88

scarecrow @ 86

dab from CT — it was expected; they endorsed Joe in the primary. I found it interesting that their column had to ignore/minimize Iraq and Joe’s role in it, and ignored his torture vote, his bankruptcy vote, his energy vote, and his flip-flop on Social Security. Ned’s ads will ensure those issues are heard, and the voters decide, not the head-in-sand editorial board of the Hartford Courant.

Actually, one of the liebertrolls on Ned’s blog was jumping up and down for joy that all the Dems had gotten endorsements – including Joe.

I pointed out that that was GREAT news – the other Dems will push Ned over the finish line – and too bad that the candidate for the CT for Lieberman party would be sixth or seventh on the ballot.

Haven’t heard an answer yet.

I didn’t see that post, but the same thing did occur to me!

Thanks scarecrow- I was looking elsewhere- as in editorials, and didn’t even notice the endorsement box.

Scarecrow, Cozumel at al – the nostalgia, the smell of tear gas in the morning. I was at UCB from 66-73, at People’s Park, I recall Hubert the red-haired preacher, when a four course meal at Chez Panisse was 6 bucks. We knew how to protest in those days. I don’t know what’s happened to our youth. They can’t be bothered even to set fire to a police car….

dab from CT @ 88

scarecrow @ 86

dab from CT — it was expected; they endorsed Joe in the primary. I found it interesting that their column had to ignore/minimize Iraq and Joe’s role in it, and ignored his torture vote, his bankruptcy vote, his energy vote, and his flip-flop on Social Security. Ned’s ads will ensure those issues are heard, and the voters decide, not the head-in-sand editorial board of the Hartford Courant.

Actually, one of the liebertrolls on Ned’s blog was jumping up and down for joy that all the Dems had gotten endorsements – including Joe.

I pointed out that that was GREAT news – the other Dems will push Ned over the finish line – and too bad that the candidate for the CT for Lieberman party would be sixth or seventh on the ballot.

Haven’t heard an answer yet.

I think it’s also interesting that the reasons they gave for endorsing all Dems for the House — that we needed a change from Republican rule — apply equally to Ned — and those arguments may help Ned, despite the head-in-sand discussion of Joe. Ned’s ads are (honestly) linking Joe to everything the Courant says needs to be rejected in Congress. Cognitive dissonance.

And, BTW, I am not even going to provide a direct link to that endorsement, because it is totally totally wrong-headed and upside down.

scarecrow- didn’t see your comment before I posted. but you are so correct. Cognitive dissonance.

Quick UC story from the early 70’s. When Ronnie became gov he fired Chancellor Clark Kerr, of whom I was not a great fan at the time. Kerr redeemed himself in his departure speech when he said that he left the University the same way he came in, “fired with enthusiasm”.

petedownunder @ 93

Scarecrow, Cozumel at al – the nostalgia, the smell of tear gas in the morning. I was at UCB from 66-73, at People’s Park, I recall Hubert the red-haired preacher, when a four course meal at Chez Panisse was 6 bucks. We knew how to protest in those days. I don’t know what’s happened to our youth. They can’t be bothered even to set fire to a police car….

I didn’t have anything to do with burning the AEC car. I was just the one that spotted it. It was parked at the wrong place at the wrong time. lol

Oh yea they can, just not for political purposes. Seen this

Madison police arrest 68 as Halloween celebration begins
Advertisement

By SCOTT BAUER
Associated Press Writer

October 28, 2006, 11:05 AM CDT

MADISON, Wis. — Sixty-eight people were arrested on the first night of this city’s notorious Halloween celebration, police said as they prepared for thousands of costumed revelers to descend on downtown Saturday night.

As of 2:30 a.m., 68 were arrested as a result of incidents downtown, about half the number on the opening night last year, police spokesman Mike Hanson said. He did not list the charges but said only 13 of those arrested went to jail.

“We had a much better behaved crowd this year,” said George Twigg, a spokesman for Mayor Dave Cieslewicz. “We had no reports of serious crime or injury resulting from crime.”

Twigg estimated the crowd as large as 10,000 on Friday night but many more partiers were expected Saturday, the night when revelry has often turned into drunken violence.

Police were preparing to implement new controls meant to ward off the mayhem that has forced them to use pepper spray the past four years to disperse unruly crowds.

Despite the violence, the party’s reputation has grown. Playboy magazine cited it in April as one of the reasons it named the University of Wisconsin-Madison the nation’s top party school.

For the first time, $5 tickets were sold, barricades were erected and stages were built for bands to entertain the crowds. The city also imposed time limits — 7:30 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., but the bars were staying open until 2:30 a.m.

The so-called “Freakfest” takes place on State Street, a pedestrian-only avenue lined with bars, restaurants and shops that runs from the Capitol on the east to the university campus on the west.

Only a fraction of the 80,000 tickets printed for the event have been sold and some worried the cover charge would push the crowds into nearby neighborhoods. A home football game and an extra hour to party thanks to daylight-savings time also had city officials on edge.

Significant problems date back to 2002 when revelers threw rocks and bottles, breaking at least 12 windows and damaging police cars. In 2003, store windows were broken and at least two cars were tipped over. In 2004, a small bonfire was started and 450 people were arrested.

Last year, between Friday night and Sunday morning, 447 people were arrested. As they had since 2002, police used pepper spray to quell a crowd of about 2,000.

About 250 police officers were scheduled to be on duty Saturday night.

At a command center located just off State Street, law enforcement officials were expected to monitor activity with high-powered cameras capable of zooming in on potential problem areas.

petedownunder @ 93

Scarecrow, Cozumel at al – the nostalgia, the smell of tear gas in the morning. I was at UCB from 66-73, at People’s Park, I recall Hubert the red-haired preacher, when a four course meal at Chez Panisse was 6 bucks. We knew how to protest in those days. I don’t know what’s happened to our youth. They can’t be bothered even to set fire to a police car….

Soldiers Say Support the Troops by Bringing Them Home

Active-Duty Troops Send Messages to Congress Opposing War in Iraq

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..amp;page=1

Raven at 99 – Drunken revelry doesn’t count. As I recall most of us involved in the protest movement then were pretty sober, at least during the day…

hey dab, or others in CT- how is voting set up? Is is possible just to vote along party lines, and pull the lever on that? It is here.

petedownunder @ 93

Scarecrow, Cozumel at al – the nostalgia, the smell of tear gas in the morning. I was at UCB from 66-73, at People’s Park, I recall Hubert the red-haired preacher, when a four course meal at Chez Panisse was 6 bucks. We knew how to protest in those days. I don’t know what’s happened to our youth. They can’t be bothered even to set fire to a police car….

I’m not really into setting fires to police cars, and I never saw the police as the “enemy,” but watching Mario Savio climb on top of a police car in Sproul Hall Plaza and declare,

“. . .sometimes the operation of the machine becomes so odious that we have to throw our bodies on the gears, and grind the machine to a halt.”

. . . changed my whole outlook and has stayed with me. This is another time like that, and we may have to do the same. But ACT BLUE and GOTV first.

Sacrecrow at 103 “… changed my whole outlook and has stayed with me. This is another time like that, and we may have to do the same. But ACT BLUE and GOTV first.”

I may be getting old, but I think ActBlue and GOTV may, in the end, be far more effective than burning police cars, but jeeze, not nearly as much fun.

A bit OT, but maybe not. I zoomed back to the US for a few days and to cast my absentee ballot and noticed that Diane Finstein was running this time. She is so unopposed I’m not sure the Repub on the ballot is a real person. Has she kicked any serious money to the battlefield states and those that are really likely to wrest control of congress from the Rethugs?

Valley Girl @ 102

hey dab, or others in CT- how is voting set up? Is is possible just to vote along party lines, and pull the lever on that? It is here.

In some areas. They have the Diebold scanners in others.

scarecrow, pete, etc. But the big difference between then and now was the draft. There was a certain equation between throwing oneself into the gears or getting drafted. And, BTW as a female, I thought it was unfair at the time that women weren’t being drafted, because that would have mobilized us in an extra way- more COs, perhaps.

Hey y’all, if you’re kossacks, recommends might help my diary linking back to the current fdl post….

TeddySanFran @
48

Saturday night’s a busy time over at the Orangerie, but this may help our ad fundage for Tony a little bit. You who bow to Master Kos might give this diary a rec, to keep it afloat this evening and add to BlueAmerica’s ad buy:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/28/195541/99

Thanks to all you ‘lakers who’ve put your stamp on this one. I’m hoping to get some Orange Love back over here for Tony!

scarecrow @ 103

petedownunder @ 93

Scarecrow, Cozumel at al – the nostalgia, the smell of tear gas in the morning. I was at UCB from 66-73, at People’s Park, I recall Hubert the red-haired preacher, when a four course meal at Chez Panisse was 6 bucks. We knew how to protest in those days. I don’t know what’s happened to our youth. They can’t be bothered even to set fire to a police car….

I’m not really into setting fires to police cars, and I never saw the police as the “enemy,” but watching Mario Savio climb on top of a police car in Sproul Hall Plaza and declare,

“. . .sometimes the operation of the machine becomes so odious that we have to throw our bodies on the gears, and grind the machine to a halt.”

. . . changed my whole outlook and has stayed with me. This is another time like that, and we may have to do the same. But ACT BLUE and GOTV first.

Many years after Berkeley, Mario Savio was teaching math at Sonoma State University, near Santa Rosa, where I lived. That was the last job Mr. Savio held before his death in 1996. Mario Savio belongs to the ages.

Valley Girl @ 107

scarecrow, pete, etc. But the big difference between then and now was the draft. There was a certain equation between throwing oneself into the gears or getting drafted. And, BTW as a female, I thought it was unfair at the time that women weren’t being drafted, because that would have mobilized us in an extra way- more COs, perhaps.

The draft sure did make it personal, at least for us guys. More than a few friends went to Canada. But I’d like to think we’d have opposed the war anyway, and the women were very active and they were not at risk.

TeddySanFran @ 108

Hey y’all, if you’re kossacks, recommends might help my diary linking back to the current fdl post….

TeddySanFran @
48

Saturday night’s a busy time over at the Orangerie, but this may help our ad fundage for Tony a little bit. You who bow to Master Kos might give this diary a rec, to keep it afloat this evening and add to BlueAmerica’s ad buy:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/28/195541/99

Thanks to all you ‘lakers who’ve put your stamp on this one. I’m hoping to get some Orange Love back over here for Tony!

The “Recommend” button is under the third orange bar on the right side. I think you have to be signed in.

Here’s a Kos diary saying Bill Clinton will campaign for John Hall.

I call that great news.

Anyone know what Al Gore is doing these days. Haven’t heard a word.

petedownunder @
110

Valley Girl @ 107

scarecrow, pete, etc. But the big difference between then and now was the draft. There was a certain equation between throwing oneself into the gears or getting drafted. And, BTW as a female, I thought it was unfair at the time that women weren’t being drafted, because that would have mobilized us in an extra way- more COs, perhaps.

The draft sure did make it personal, at least for us guys. More than a few friends went to Canada. But I’d like to think we’d have opposed the war anyway, and the women were very active and they were not at risk.

Yes, as a woman, it felt very personal to me too, and I supported the efforts. But, I still felt at the time that I could not be feeling the full extent of what the guys were feeling. Yes, several friends of mine also went to Canada, or elsewhere. Yes, I’d like to think that we would have opposed the war anyway. I am just not sure that it would have been with such passion and intent without the draft. It’s really hard for me to make that call now. My students (university) mostly have not the slightest fuck of an idea about the Iraq mess, and I suspect that if there were a draft now they would be paying more attention. Hard call. We were/ are a unique generation, for many reasons.

VG -at 114 “Yes, as a woman, it felt very personal to me too, and I supported the efforts. But, I still felt at the time that I could not be feeling the full extent of what the guys were feeling. Yes, several friends of mine also went to Canada, or elsewhere. Yes, I’d like to think that we would have opposed the war anyway. I am just not sure that it would have been with such passion and intent without the draft. It’s really hard for me to make that call now. My students (university) mostly have not the slightest fuck of an idea about the Iraq mess, and I suspect that if there were a draft now they would be paying more attention. Hard call. We were/ are a unique generation, for many reasons.”

It is a hard call, but I don’t understand the apathy of the young these days. I’m not in an environment where I meet many students or early 20’s folks so I have no idea what is on their minds. Perhaps it does take a draft or similar situation where it affects one individually to really stir up passion. But I’m pretty stirred up up Iraq and have no stake in it at personal level.

BTW for us HTML impaired, is there a way to quote a comment without qoting all of it?

Does anyone in the New York area have any idea when the New York Times is planning on endorsing their pick for CT Senator?

Sorry to keep being OT but it does seem like there are a couple of conversations going on here.

Dab at 117 “Sorry to keep being OT but it does seem like there are a couple of conversations going on here.”

I think the Late Night crowd got here early, not a good sign on a Saturday night, but I have an excuse, my S.O. is 7500 miles away.

did the courant endorse joe in the primary?

petedownunder @ 116

BTW for us HTML impaired, is there a way to quote a comment without qoting all of it?

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UptownNYChick @ 119

did the courant endorse joe in the primary?

Yes. The Courant endorsed every Dem in the race but Ned.

You should read the convoluted reasoning behind the Joe endorsement.

I will never forget the caravan of Greyhound buses leaving the station in Sacramento, bound for the army induction center in Oakland, Ca. at 4:00am in the summer of 1965. I was seventeen. Some of the guys on those Greyhounds gave it up in Nam.

petedownunder @ 115

VG -at 114 “Yes, as a woman, it felt very personal to me too, and I supported the efforts. But, I still felt at the time that I could not be feeling the full extent of what the guys were feeling. Yes, several friends of mine also went to Canada, or elsewhere. Yes, I’d like to think that we would have opposed the war anyway. I am just not sure that it would have been with such passion and intent without the draft. It’s really hard for me to make that call now. My students (university) mostly have not the slightest fuck of an idea about the Iraq mess, and I suspect that if there were a draft now they would be paying more attention. Hard call. We were/ are a unique generation, for many reasons.”

It is a hard call, but I don’t understand the apathy of the young these days. I’m not in an environment where I meet many students or early 20’s folks so I have no idea what is on their minds. Perhaps it does take a draft or similar situation where it affects one individually to really stir up passion. But I’m pretty stirred up up Iraq and have no stake in it at personal level.

I am also stirred up about Iraq, and thought that it was a losing prop. from the get-go. But then I had had the experience of the Viet-Nam war, and that of course is a big factor. In a freshman seminar about something totally different we were looking at a science memoire, and the students said- but this person sounds really angry! And I said, well, what was going on at the time? Drew a blank. I said- there was a war going on. One student said, oh, was that Korea? I said, no, Viet-Nam. Oh, same student said, I always get the two confused. That really knocked me back hard as a window into the disconnect between me and them.

FYI, the Ford/Corker debate is coming up on CSPAN at the top of the hour

Sorry to interrupt, but I love Jim ‘James’ We quote over at DKos.

‘The fish rots from the head down’

apparently the NYT is endorsing Ned tomorrow.Ned

Scarecrow at 120 thanks

Dab – NYT goes for Lamont, I screwed up the link. I’ll go get it.

Diary in need of some love here

If you’ve ever told me “Blackwell will steal it”…

(Contains important action item.)

take this to the Lieberman supportersL

No one expects legislators to dictate military tactics. But what we need from the next crop of elected officials in Washington is a willingness to face reality, to choose from among difficult options and have the courage to be honest with the public about the consequences. On those points, Mr. Lamont is by far the better candidate.

Here is the NYT linkNYT Endorses Lamont

UptownNYChick @ 126

apparently the NYT is endorsing Ned tomorrow.Ned

Thank God. UptownNYChick – I luv ya.

Now I can sleep well tonight – lol

these people are doing a reprehensible push poll for the troglodyte republican in tennessee, bob corker

question like, “do you believe terrorists should have the same rights as americans,” etc

go email them and tell them you know better

http://commonsensetennessee.com

UtownNYChick- oh, thanks for the link to the NYT.

~~~The fatal problem with Mr. Lieberman’s candidacy is not that he was wrong about the invasion, but that he has not shown any capacity to grow and change. Suggesting that getting rid of Donald Rumsfeld might be a good idea is hardly a breakthrough at a time when the secretary of defense’s supporters are pretty much limited to the president and members of the Rumsfeld family.~~~

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..9sun2.html

ouch

But instead of re-evaluating his own positions, Mr. Lieberman blamed his constituents for failing to notice that he had offered some negative comments about the conduct of the war, too, mainly when he was running for the Democratic nomination for president in 2004. He did not protest when Dick Cheney said that people who voted for Mr. Lamont were giving comfort to “Al Qaeda types.” His only reflection seemed devoted to a re-examination of the rules for getting back on the ballot.

Okay, I’m back in for the night…did we get Jane’s benjamin covered upthread, or do I need to kick in? I’ll pack lunch this week if we need to get the match…somebody won’t like peanut butter all week, but that ad is too damned good not to spring if needed.

Holy Cow – New York Times is smokin…

(snip)

“We wanted to see a capacity for growth and change in Mr. Lieberman. The country is full of Republicans who now realize the Iraq invasion was a disaster, either in its basic concept or in its execution. The most honorable of them are in agony over what has happened. Mr. Lieberman, who had not only continually defended the administration’s Iraq policy but also attacked Democrats who criticized the president, had more cause for soul-searching than most.

But instead of re-evaluating his own positions, Mr. Lieberman blamed his constituents for failing to notice that he had offered some negative comments about the conduct of the war, too, mainly when he was running for the Democratic nomination for president in 2004. He did not protest when Dick Cheney said that people who voted for Mr. Lamont were giving comfort to “Al Qaeda types.” His only reflection seemed devoted to a re-examination of the rules for getting back on the ballot.

(continued)

Howie Klein @
38

I’m very touched by all the kind words. And more than anything else I’m very proud to be part of this awesome team. And I don’t only mean Jane and Christy and Pach and Jacquie and David and the others who work on this project. I mean all 5,732 people who have donated what they could for these efforts to save our country. I feel very humbled to be working with all of you. Thank you so much. And next Tuesday we’re gonna stomp these damned fascists into the ground like our grandparents did last time they reared their ugly heads in the 40s.

Dear Howie,
I hope you realize how much you mean to each of us – and how you have inspired this whole country to get out and work and sacrifice time/money/energy to take back our country!

You are a most amazing man – thank you so much for everything!!

Sincerely,
Kathie

Scarecrow

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petedownunder @
130

Here is the NYT linkNYT Endorses Lamont

This is great. I expect Jane will have an extensive qupte/post later, which will allow us to SPOTLIGHT to all NY and CT Media, first, then all TV and natinal reporters all over. The country needs to see this so they know what’s at stake.

body blow to Joe’s ego

Being able to work with the opposition party — Mr. Lieberman’s claim to fame — is hardly a sign of moral courage when the opposition party controls the White House, Senate and House of Representatives. President Bush did not need Mr. Lieberman’s persistent support on Iraq when he had the deference of his own party members in Congress. What the country needed — and what Connecticut had the right to expect — was for Mr. Lieberman to risk some of his bipartisan clout to call attention to the way Iraq was spiraling out of control.

LOL – we all quoted the same part

The fatal problem with Mr. Lieberman’s candidacy is not that he was wrong about the invasion, but that he has not shown any capacity to grow and change. Suggesting that getting rid of Donald Rumsfeld might be a good idea is hardly a breakthrough at a time when the secretary of defense’s supporters are pretty much limited to the president and members of the Rumsfeld family.

Mr. Lieberman has changed his tone but not his underlying conviction that he has been right all along. He and Mr. Bush are still on the very same page, encouraging the American people to believe that there is a happy ending for American involvement in Iraq, and that all it takes is the perseverance to keep marching toward the end of the rainbow.

Ned Lamont has run a far less polished campaign than Mr. Lieberman, but the more we see of him, the more impressed we are by his intelligence and his growing sophistication about the issues facing the nation. He is very much in the Connecticut mold of basically moderate, principled politicians, and his willingness to take on Mr. Lieberman when no one else dared to do it showed real courage and conviction. He would make a good senator. More important, he has the capacity to continually become a better one. We endorse Ned Lamont for Senate.

Rayne @ 135

Okay, I’m back in for the night…did we get Jane’s benjamin covered upthread, or do I need to kick in? I’ll pack lunch this week if we need to get the match…somebody won’t like peanut butter all week, but that ad is too damned good not to spring if needed.

Rayne, I think Jane’s benjamin got covered. But, don’t let that stop you! ;)

sea biscuit @ 132

these people are doing a reprehensible push poll for the troglodyte republican in tennessee, bob corker

question like, “do you believe terrorists should have the same rights as americans,” etc

Good question to ask in response: “As a point of reference, was Timothy McVeigh an American or a terrorist?”

False dichotomy – it’s fun when you have an imagination.

scarecrow @ 139

petedownunder @
130

Here is the NYT linkNYT Endorses Lamont

This is great. I expect Jane will have an extensive qupte/post later, which will allow us to SPOTLIGHT to all NY and CT Media, first, then all TV and natinal reporters all over. The country needs to see this so they know what’s at stake.

I surely hope so!!!!!!!!!!!

Lobbyists for Lieberman are not gonna like that one.

‘The fish rots from the head down!!!’

On a lighter note, try some

Sweet Leaf

Webb comes out swinging… Yes, indeed.

I kicked enough to bring the Blue America PAC up to $38,000 but it has registared yet!

Yes, there it is finally!

petedownunder @ 6:37 pm (#130)

Here is the NYT linkNYT Endorses Lamont

That’s a good editorial, with some very apt observations about Sen. Lieberman’s actions and character.

AZ Matt @ 149

Yes, there it is finally!

Yep!!! there it is!!!

Blue America PAC 1,147 donors $38,000.00

What a nice round figure you make!

OT: There is no longer an “edit this comment” link on my comments. Was this feature just too frustrating for all the people whose browsers didn’t support it?

Not that we should stop there… ;)

Cujo359 @ 152

OT: There is no longer an “edit this comment” link on my comments. Was this feature just too frustrating for all the people whose browsers didn’t support it?

I have noticed the same thing. I don’t know the reason, but I sorta miss it… time will tell.

Valley Girl @ 153

Not that we should stop there… ;)

Be my guest! No doubt Howie would like to see more!

Webb is pissed!!!
I LOVE it.

Valley Girl @
151

AZ Matt @ 149

Yes, there it is finally!

Yep!!! there it is!!!

Blue America PAC 1,147 donors $38,000.00

What a nice round figure you make!

Ain’t that a beautifuly thing? Very nicely done.

Valley Girl @ 154

Cujo359 @ 152

OT: There is no longer an “edit this comment” link on my comments. Was this feature just too frustrating for all the people whose browsers didn’t support it?

I have noticed the same thing. I don’t know the reason, but I sorta miss it… time will tell.

I hope it returns. It worked fine for me, with the obvious exception that unless you reload the page you might miss the edits that folks have made.

Cujo- hopefully someone who has “the powers” is reading, and will be able to relay the message.

LindyH @
147

Webb comes out swinging… Yes, indeed.

So Lynne cheney has her panties alll in a wad over a book that is published by the US Navy and one that was taught at Annapolis.
Why does Lynne Cheney hate the American military?

Sorry, another slightly OT:

Our local news just said Bill Clinton just endorsed the Dem running for our State Senate.
The Repug running against her has been saying he can work with anyone and shows a picture of himself with Bill in one of his ads.
Apparently Bill doesn’t agree.
This jerk won’t even admit he’s a repug. None of his election info shows his affiliation.
I gotta give Bill cudos for this one.

Another donation for Tony Trupiano. He’s my neighbor, after all!

Renee in Ohio: I have lived in Columbus for 13 years. I am worried, too. On election day I will be working the voter protection hot line for Ohio. We will be vigilant. Blackwell cannot steal it again.

dwwenz @ 162

Another donation for Tony Trupiano. He’s my neighbor, after all!

Renee in Ohio: I have lived in Columbus for 13 years. I am worried, too. On election day I will be working the voter protection hot line for Ohio. We will be vigilant. Blackwell cannot steal it again.

My 6-4, 210 pound uncle will be working a polling site near Columbus. He said has been itching for a Repug to challenge him since 2004.

VG #142 — thanks for the update. If we have it covered, I’d rather wait until morning to ask the kids if we can do cold lunch instead of hot lunch this week, then kick in the extra. Cash poor this next 35 days until invoices are paid by clients. Ouch.

UptownNYChick,

Your uncle sounds like my kind of poll worker. Bring on the Rethugs, we Ohioans are pissed!

Rayne @ 164

VG #142 — thanks for the update. If we have it covered, I’d rather wait until morning to ask the kids if we can do cold lunch instead of hot lunch this week, then kick in the extra. Cash poor this next 35 days until invoices are paid by clients. Ouch.

Rayne- I know only second hand about the clients paying- but the daughter of a dear friend of mine is now in financial trouble because of all of the contract money that has been promised but not paid. Another sad sign of the Bushco. regime, wherein people are not able to pay their bills.

dwwenz @ 165

UptownNYChick,

Your uncle sounds like my kind of poll worker. Bring on the Rethugs, we Ohioans are pissed!

He’s a trip. I’ll be staying with them quite a bit in 2008. Might even move in for a while.

UptownNYChick,

Feel free to contact me if you move in for a while. I have been an avid reader, seldom commenter at FDL. dwwenzel at msn dot com

I like getting together with other like-minded people. Keeps me sane.

dwwenz @ 168

UptownNYChick,

Feel free to contact me if you move in for a while. I have been an avid reader, seldom commenter at FDL. dwwenzel at msn dot com

I like getting together with other like-minded people. Keeps me sane.

cool, will do

Jane Hamsher @
1

Okay I’m putting up $100. Can I get five people to put in $20 to match me?

Does the $50 I put up before I saw this count? It was after you posted this, just before I saw it.

On second thought, no, nope it doesn’t. I guess we still need five people to put in $20 each. Oh well. ;-)

You recall it, you know what they say about that!

petedownunder @
101

Raven at 99 – Drunken revelry doesn’t count. As I recall most of us involved in the protest movement then were pretty sober, at least during the day…