Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Fag Haglia http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:29:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: chris c http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353414 chris c Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:33:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353414 <p>Yeah, I hear ya. I too am sick of Paglia and her stereotypes of both gay men and lesbians (she thinks we lesbians are dreary ugly, bores, with the exception, of course, of herself). </p> <p>A few years ago she was quoted in Salon as saying that hearing about Rush Limbaugh’s drug addiction was as devastating to her as when she heard that Princess Diana was killed. Huh? Man, she is too weird for words. I really wish Salon would stop subjecting us to her silly, attention-seeking rants.</p> Yeah, I hear ya. I too am sick of Paglia and her stereotypes of both gay men and lesbians (she thinks we lesbians are dreary ugly, bores, with the exception, of course, of herself).

A few years ago she was quoted in Salon as saying that hearing about Rush Limbaugh’s drug addiction was as devastating to her as when she heard that Princess Diana was killed. Huh? Man, she is too weird for words. I really wish Salon would stop subjecting us to her silly, attention-seeking rants.

]]> By: Jim H. http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353331 Jim H. Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:42:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353331 <p>Somebody at Salon can stomach this crap. Probably the same person, or faction, responsible for Farhad Manjoo.</p> Somebody at Salon can stomach this crap. Probably the same person, or faction, responsible for Farhad Manjoo.

]]> By: Jim H. http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353327 Jim H. Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:40:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353327 <p>I’m trying to come up with a descriptor to explain the kind of person — who may even call themselves “liberal” — who think she’s brilliant. Haven’t come up with one yet. She’s the worst kind of fraud I know of. </p> <p>If I kind of squint at her to get her sexual persona, what I see is a loud, stupid and wife-beating old man. A lover of Mussolini, who hangs around the coffee house all day disparaging “these wimps” today.</p> <p>But definitely nothing like an actual intellectual.</p> I’m trying to come up with a descriptor to explain the kind of person — who may even call themselves “liberal” — who think she’s brilliant. Haven’t come up with one yet. She’s the worst kind of fraud I know of.

If I kind of squint at her to get her sexual persona, what I see is a loud, stupid and wife-beating old man. A lover of Mussolini, who hangs around the coffee house all day disparaging “these wimps” today.

But definitely nothing like an actual intellectual.

]]> By: TRex http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353254 TRex Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:57:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353254 <p><a href="#comment-352970"><em>Professor Foland @<br /> 255 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>TRex–</p> <p> May I humbly suggest that Lynn Cheney be your next Late-Nite <strike>target</strike> topic?</p></blockquote> <p>Lynne Cheney is not a good man.</p> Professor Foland @
255

TRex–

May I humbly suggest that Lynn Cheney be your next Late-Nite target topic?

Lynne Cheney is not a good man.

]]> By: Monk http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353222 Monk Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:14:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353222 <p>Camille Paglia, like most talking heads, feels she can pontificate on anything, even subjects about which she is completely ignorant.<br /> Studds’ constituents here in MA did not applaud him for having sex with an underage page. Gerry Studds humbled himself through a series of public appearances throughout his district. He endured the brunt of their anger over the incident. Ultimately, his constituents, many of them Portuguese fisherman, understood that he was working on their behalf and that he was their best advocate. The people of his district did not pull the lever for Gerry Studds the homosexual. They voted for Studds, the champion of the New England fishing.<br /> Why are folks like Paglia given licensse to talk about anything beyond their area of expertise?</p> Camille Paglia, like most talking heads, feels she can pontificate on anything, even subjects about which she is completely ignorant.
Studds’ constituents here in MA did not applaud him for having sex with an underage page. Gerry Studds humbled himself through a series of public appearances throughout his district. He endured the brunt of their anger over the incident. Ultimately, his constituents, many of them Portuguese fisherman, understood that he was working on their behalf and that he was their best advocate. The people of his district did not pull the lever for Gerry Studds the homosexual. They voted for Studds, the champion of the New England fishing.
Why are folks like Paglia given licensse to talk about anything beyond their area of expertise?

]]> By: Jeffrey Feldman http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353160 Jeffrey Feldman Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:07:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353160 <p>And hererosexuals don’t go cruising? Honestly. Paglia’s argument reminds me of writers who respond to the Holocaust with clever questions like, “But can we say the Jews were <i>completely</i> without blame?” It’s a time-honored intellectual charade she plays: bigotry dressed up as critique. What she does is as bad, if not worse, than Limbaugh or Coulter. They are thugs who act as thugs to an audience of thugs. Paglia, on the other hand, puts academic lipstick on the American bloodsport of killing gay men.</p> <p>Paglia isn’t worth her weight in straw.</p> And hererosexuals don’t go cruising? Honestly. Paglia’s argument reminds me of writers who respond to the Holocaust with clever questions like, “But can we say the Jews were completely without blame?” It’s a time-honored intellectual charade she plays: bigotry dressed up as critique. What she does is as bad, if not worse, than Limbaugh or Coulter. They are thugs who act as thugs to an audience of thugs. Paglia, on the other hand, puts academic lipstick on the American bloodsport of killing gay men.

Paglia isn’t worth her weight in straw.

]]> By: bergs http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353084 bergs Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:56:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353084 <p>Remember, that Conservative Media people like Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter were trained at one of the GOP Institutes where they were taught to take Republican talking points, and slant and distort them so the Right looks good, the Left looks bad. Probably your Ms. Paglia was a graduate of the same Slime institute!</p> Remember, that Conservative Media people like Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter were trained at one of the GOP Institutes where they were taught to take Republican talking points, and slant and distort them so the Right looks good, the Left looks bad. Probably your Ms. Paglia was a graduate of the same Slime institute!

]]> By: bachelard http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353064 bachelard Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:33:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353064 <p>I read the entire interview in Salon and it’s the usual self-referential BS. I’ve rarely seen a writer allude so much to her own work.</p> <p>She is a male version of Andrew Sullivan, setting her political sails according to the prevailing winds, and preferring the glib over the deeply thought. And of course her work is rife, like Sullivans, with ad hominem invective. It’s about being a media personality — verbal shock and awe — not a thinker.</p> I read the entire interview in Salon and it’s the usual self-referential BS. I’ve rarely seen a writer allude so much to her own work.

She is a male version of Andrew Sullivan, setting her political sails according to the prevailing winds, and preferring the glib over the deeply thought. And of course her work is rife, like Sullivans, with ad hominem invective. It’s about being a media personality — verbal shock and awe — not a thinker.

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353039 Marion in Savannah Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:44:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353039 <p>Oh, well, I guess I’m trapped in mod because there’s a new thread upstairs…</p> Oh, well, I guess I’m trapped in mod because there’s a new thread upstairs…

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353033 Marion in Savannah Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:37:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/late-nite-fdl-fag-haglia/#comment-353033 <p><a href="#comment-353012"><em>An Angry Old Broad @ 266</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I own a Cast Iron Skillet of Justice myself. It comes in handy here in red state America.</p> <p>I’m a high school grad with one semester of college,so I never got exposed to Paglia,thank heavens. I suppose that’s one good thing about not having a degree,I missed alot of overblown nonsense passing for scholarly work.</p> <p>Gay men cruising? Like they’re the only ones? BWAHAHAHA! Obviously she’s never been to a trade show or convention,or met a smarmy sales rep or vendor who plies clients with strippers. Or worked in a hotel during convention season. Straight(usually married)men put gay men to shame on that score. No woman is safe around these guys,been there,done that and got blisters on my feet from running from some of these guys. Talk about relentless pervy-ness,geesh. And ewww.</p> <p>I really wish Americans would stop falling for this”trust me,I’m an expert,’cause I went to school and stuff” nonsense.</p></blockquote> <p>Isn’t that just the truth! I used to live and work in New York City about 2 blocks from Madison Square Garden and there were times when conventions were in town when it was hazardous just to stand on a street corner waiting to meet a friend. The assumption was any woman standing still MUST be waiting to be picked up… Retch… oh, yeah, and “wretch” too!</p> An Angry Old Broad @ 266

I own a Cast Iron Skillet of Justice myself. It comes in handy here in red state America.

I’m a high school grad with one semester of college,so I never got exposed to Paglia,thank heavens. I suppose that’s one good thing about not having a degree,I missed alot of overblown nonsense passing for scholarly work.

Gay men cruising? Like they’re the only ones? BWAHAHAHA! Obviously she’s never been to a trade show or convention,or met a smarmy sales rep or vendor who plies clients with strippers. Or worked in a hotel during convention season. Straight(usually married)men put gay men to shame on that score. No woman is safe around these guys,been there,done that and got blisters on my feet from running from some of these guys. Talk about relentless pervy-ness,geesh. And ewww.

I really wish Americans would stop falling for this”trust me,I’m an expert,’cause I went to school and stuff” nonsense.

Isn’t that just the truth! I used to live and work in New York City about 2 blocks from Madison Square Garden and there were times when conventions were in town when it was hazardous just to stand on a street corner waiting to meet a friend. The assumption was any woman standing still MUST be waiting to be picked up… Retch… oh, yeah, and “wretch” too!

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