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	<title>Comments on: Go Blue:  Tony Trupiano</title>
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		<title>By: KarenJG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/go-blue-tony-trupiano/#comment-353495</link>
		<dc:creator>KarenJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m a day late, but at least I’m not a dollar short. (Actually, I am, but through the miracle of plastic…)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Pachacutec</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/go-blue-tony-trupiano/#comment-353303</link>
		<dc:creator>Pachacutec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352642&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dab from CT @&lt;br /&gt;
                93              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Still a bit freaked out about Pach’s post. Did phone banking today. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heard that several of the people mentioned in the email WERE planning on coming to CT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am concerned and confused.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cause, meet effect?  Similar pressure behind the scenes prompted the DSCC to get religion late this week.  I’m hoping my post will add extra incentive to the people named.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-352642"><em>dab from CT @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Still a bit freaked out about Pach’s post. Did phone banking today. </p>
<p>Heard that several of the people mentioned in the email WERE planning on coming to CT.</p>
<p>Am concerned and confused.</p>
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<p>Cause, meet effect?  Similar pressure behind the scenes prompted the DSCC to get religion late this week.  I’m hoping my post will add extra incentive to the people named.</p>
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		<title>By: Make Them Accountable / Woo hoo! Tony makes it to the big time.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Them Accountable / Woo hoo! Tony makes it to the big time.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: helzapoppn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/27/go-blue-tony-trupiano/#comment-352979</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Back to the subject at hand…the stakes in Michigan’s 11th are higher than any of us thought.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yesterday I realized something: If Tony Trupiano doesn’t win right now, in 2006, then Thaddeus McCotter will be in Congress until 2012.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seriously. I live in the 11th, and there is NO ONE in the District to challenge McCotter in 2008 or 2010 if Tony doesn’t win. McCotter will be entrenched, possibly a chairman or ranking member of a committee, in line to receive millions for his future war chests. Any opposition will be like the placeholder he ran against in 2004.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(For those wondering, I can tell you right now that Tony WILL NOT run again if he loses. So put any thoughts of a rematch in 2008 out of your minds. Ain’t gonna happen.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Barring scandal, corruption or McCotter foolishly deciding to run for the Senate (and sad to say, he’s no fool), the only hope we have is the redistricting after the 2010 Census…because more than likely Michigan will lose another seat in Congress and the 11th could simply disappear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So come on, Blue America! It’s Tony now, or forget about this District for the next two elections!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the subject at hand…the stakes in Michigan’s 11th are higher than any of us thought.</p>
<p>Yesterday I realized something: If Tony Trupiano doesn’t win right now, in 2006, then Thaddeus McCotter will be in Congress until 2012.</p>
<p>Seriously. I live in the 11th, and there is NO ONE in the District to challenge McCotter in 2008 or 2010 if Tony doesn’t win. McCotter will be entrenched, possibly a chairman or ranking member of a committee, in line to receive millions for his future war chests. Any opposition will be like the placeholder he ran against in 2004.</p>
<p>(For those wondering, I can tell you right now that Tony WILL NOT run again if he loses. So put any thoughts of a rematch in 2008 out of your minds. Ain’t gonna happen.)</p>
<p>Barring scandal, corruption or McCotter foolishly deciding to run for the Senate (and sad to say, he’s no fool), the only hope we have is the redistricting after the 2010 Census…because more than likely Michigan will lose another seat in Congress and the 11th could simply disappear.</p>
<p>So come on, Blue America! It’s Tony now, or forget about this District for the next two elections!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Boru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Boru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can’t believe Webb didn’t use that ad: it’s one of the four or five best I’ve seen this season.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;carmen- my political take on things/ local knowledge has huge gaps (like a 10 year gap) because I was living in England when Reagan won.  At the time, I felt more connected with UK politics.  The Brits were always eager, too, to attack the US, despite the UK being a more racist and more sexist society.  It was sort of like living in the twilight zone.  Ah well, just a sort of free-association response.  And, it doesn’t really cover all the bases in your comments.  But, I do know that my core values were formed as a Viet-Nam era college person.  Ray-gun was not popular in CA at the time, at least among those of us with a liberal persuasion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>carmen- my political take on things/ local knowledge has huge gaps (like a 10 year gap) because I was living in England when Reagan won.  At the time, I felt more connected with UK politics.  The Brits were always eager, too, to attack the US, despite the UK being a more racist and more sexist society.  It was sort of like living in the twilight zone.  Ah well, just a sort of free-association response.  And, it doesn’t really cover all the bases in your comments.  But, I do know that my core values were formed as a Viet-Nam era college person.  Ray-gun was not popular in CA at the time, at least among those of us with a liberal persuasion.</p>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352694&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dab from CT @ 131 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352671&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Valley Girl @ 120 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;dab- and it so pisses me off that Lieberman accuses Ned of trying to buy a seat in the Senate because he is using his own money in the campaign, and not accepting money from lobbyists and PACs.  God, I wish Ned would hit this hard to explain the difference between Lieberman and himself in this “bought and sold” agenda.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;VG,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have never had such a bad taste in my mouth as I have watching what’s going down in this election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My first political experience was campaigning for Eugene McCarthy - even though I was too young to vote. And remember the disappointment of ending up with Humphrey.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember voting for McGovern in 1972 and being totally freaked out that the landslide was so great they called the election for Nixon as soon as the polls closed on the west coast. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember sobbing when Reagan won in 1980 (need I say more).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I was one of tens of thousands in D.C. protesting Bush’s selection at the 2000 inauguration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But this is personal. We had a goddamn election here in August - and it apparently makes not the slightest difference to those who control what was once my own political party. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everything about this general election in CT is appalling. From the Republican money Lieberman is raking in hand over fist (which apparently is just fine with Bubba and Billary’s minions), to looking the other way while swiftboaters trash Lamont on Joe’s behalf, to the negative role the media is playing (repeating over and over again the bogus 17 pt Lieberman lead, and the Dem party’s refusal to publically support their own candidate in the election. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is unfolding is simply reinforcing everything we have been discussing for the past six years, e.g. what’s wrong with the Dem party. The fact is - the past three months has totally shaken my belief in the Dem party.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember sobbing when Reagan won and then John Lennon was killed.  It seemed that the two were almost one.  I couldn’t believe it. I hated Reagan from Death Valley Days when he was hawking what was it?  General Electric?  Something like that.  I was shocked, completely shocked, that people bought his absolute insincerity.  Those were the first years that I heard the terms Young Republicans.  As a 60’s demonstrator that was inconceivable, maybe later when you were older, but a young republican?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-352694"><em>dab from CT @ 131 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-352671"><em>Valley Girl @ 120 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>dab- and it so pisses me off that Lieberman accuses Ned of trying to buy a seat in the Senate because he is using his own money in the campaign, and not accepting money from lobbyists and PACs.  God, I wish Ned would hit this hard to explain the difference between Lieberman and himself in this “bought and sold” agenda.</p>
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<p>VG,</p>
<p>I have never had such a bad taste in my mouth as I have watching what’s going down in this election.</p>
<p>My first political experience was campaigning for Eugene McCarthy &#8211; even though I was too young to vote. And remember the disappointment of ending up with Humphrey.</p>
<p>I remember voting for McGovern in 1972 and being totally freaked out that the landslide was so great they called the election for Nixon as soon as the polls closed on the west coast. </p>
<p>I remember sobbing when Reagan won in 1980 (need I say more).</p>
<p>And I was one of tens of thousands in D.C. protesting Bush’s selection at the 2000 inauguration.</p>
<p>But this is personal. We had a goddamn election here in August &#8211; and it apparently makes not the slightest difference to those who control what was once my own political party. </p>
<p>Everything about this general election in CT is appalling. From the Republican money Lieberman is raking in hand over fist (which apparently is just fine with Bubba and Billary’s minions), to looking the other way while swiftboaters trash Lamont on Joe’s behalf, to the negative role the media is playing (repeating over and over again the bogus 17 pt Lieberman lead, and the Dem party’s refusal to publically support their own candidate in the election. </p>
<p>What is unfolding is simply reinforcing everything we have been discussing for the past six years, e.g. what’s wrong with the Dem party. The fact is &#8211; the past three months has totally shaken my belief in the Dem party.</p>
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<p>I remember sobbing when Reagan won and then John Lennon was killed.  It seemed that the two were almost one.  I couldn’t believe it. I hated Reagan from Death Valley Days when he was hawking what was it?  General Electric?  Something like that.  I was shocked, completely shocked, that people bought his absolute insincerity.  Those were the first years that I heard the terms Young Republicans.  As a 60’s demonstrator that was inconceivable, maybe later when you were older, but a young republican?</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352715&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Valley Girl @ 8:31 pm (#134)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;dab- only a brief answer, bec. it’s late.  I know exactly what you mean, and I am so pissed off about what has been going down in CT- or, more largely, those in the D party who have chosen to completely ignore/ invalidate the results of the primary.  The only consolation I can find at the moment is that Ned’s campaign really has rocked the boat.  Jane was hammering at Lieberman IRRC even before Ned announced his run.  So, at the very least, I’m sure that Jane will do what she can to make sure that this issue doesn’t go away.  Matt Stoller’s (?) comments about how the national attention on the CT senate race is completely in line with what I heard from my best friend who I stayed with in CT during the primary.  People are just fed up with the immersion.  Ned &amp; co. made a very good decision imo not to do robocalls, and for phone bankers only to talk to live people.  I can only hope that people in CT are truly fed up with hearing his whiny voice on the phone. (I assume that the L-man campaign are still leaving robo-calls).  I am still very hopeful about the outcome of the CT race.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One ray of hope is that no poll results have been announced since the last two debates. I don’t know if they’re customarily announced on Saturdays or not (at least since August, none have in the CT-SEN race). I’d have to think the debates caused some change in people’s perceptions of all three candidates. What that will mean, I’m not sure. We’ve hashed and rehashed the numbers, but this is a three-way race, so conventional wisdeom about insurmountable leads isn’t all that wise in this race. About 15 to 20 percent of Lieberman’s supporters have to decide they like someone else better. That’s the bottom line. The remaining undecideds don’t count because there are so few of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-352715"><em>Valley Girl @ 8:31 pm (#134)</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>dab- only a brief answer, bec. it’s late.  I know exactly what you mean, and I am so pissed off about what has been going down in CT- or, more largely, those in the D party who have chosen to completely ignore/ invalidate the results of the primary.  The only consolation I can find at the moment is that Ned’s campaign really has rocked the boat.  Jane was hammering at Lieberman IRRC even before Ned announced his run.  So, at the very least, I’m sure that Jane will do what she can to make sure that this issue doesn’t go away.  Matt Stoller’s (?) comments about how the national attention on the CT senate race is completely in line with what I heard from my best friend who I stayed with in CT during the primary.  People are just fed up with the immersion.  Ned &amp; co. made a very good decision imo not to do robocalls, and for phone bankers only to talk to live people.  I can only hope that people in CT are truly fed up with hearing his whiny voice on the phone. (I assume that the L-man campaign are still leaving robo-calls).  I am still very hopeful about the outcome of the CT race.</p>
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<p>One ray of hope is that no poll results have been announced since the last two debates. I don’t know if they’re customarily announced on Saturdays or not (at least since August, none have in the CT-SEN race). I’d have to think the debates caused some change in people’s perceptions of all three candidates. What that will mean, I’m not sure. We’ve hashed and rehashed the numbers, but this is a three-way race, so conventional wisdeom about insurmountable leads isn’t all that wise in this race. About 15 to 20 percent of Lieberman’s supporters have to decide they like someone else better. That’s the bottom line. The remaining undecideds don’t count because there are so few of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352634&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Howie Klein @&lt;br /&gt;
                87              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352626&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ruby Tuesday @ 80&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Howie, I just realized who you are outside the blogosphere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, OK, sometimes I’m a little distracted and don’t always pay attention, but wow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you suggest to Neil Young that he do a deal with Apple for a Neil Young iPod loaded with all 50 gazillion songs he’s done? U2 did that classic red &amp; black iPod, I thinkin’ fringe for Young’s, lots and lots of fringe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, sorry about that, I’ll go make a $25 contrition to the PAC……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back later to see Mr TRex sir if he turns up. Got a question for him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Apple guy who makes those decisions is an FDL lurker. He’ll see your comments.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really?  Hey Howie, can you get me an iPod? :D&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-352634"><em>Howie Klein @<br />
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-352626"><em>Ruby Tuesday @ 80</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Howie, I just realized who you are outside the blogosphere.</p>
<p>OK, OK, sometimes I’m a little distracted and don’t always pay attention, but wow.</p>
<p>Can you suggest to Neil Young that he do a deal with Apple for a Neil Young iPod loaded with all 50 gazillion songs he’s done? U2 did that classic red &amp; black iPod, I thinkin’ fringe for Young’s, lots and lots of fringe.</p>
<p>OK, sorry about that, I’ll go make a $25 contrition to the PAC……</p>
<p>Back later to see Mr TRex sir if he turns up. Got a question for him.</p>
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<p>The Apple guy who makes those decisions is an FDL lurker. He’ll see your comments.</p>
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<p>Really?  Hey Howie, can you get me an iPod? :D</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;dab- only a brief answer, bec. it’s late.  I know exactly what you mean, and I am so pissed off about what has been going down in CT- or, more largely, those in the D party who have chosen to completely ignore/ invalidate the results of the primary.  The only consolation I can find at the moment is that Ned’s campaign really has rocked the boat.  Jane was hammering at Lieberman IRRC even before Ned announced his run.  So, at the very least, I’m sure that Jane will do what she can to make sure that this issue doesn’t go away.  Matt Stoller’s (?) comments about how the national attention on the CT senate race is completely in line with what I heard from my best friend who I stayed with in CT during the primary.  People are just fed up with the immersion.  Ned &amp; co. made a very good decision imo not to do robocalls, and for phone bankers only to talk to live people.  I can only hope that people in CT are truly fed up with hearing his (L-man’s) whiny voice on the phone. (I assume that the L-man campaign are still leaving robo-calls).  I am still very hopeful about the outcome of the CT race.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dab- only a brief answer, bec. it’s late.  I know exactly what you mean, and I am so pissed off about what has been going down in CT- or, more largely, those in the D party who have chosen to completely ignore/ invalidate the results of the primary.  The only consolation I can find at the moment is that Ned’s campaign really has rocked the boat.  Jane was hammering at Lieberman IRRC even before Ned announced his run.  So, at the very least, I’m sure that Jane will do what she can to make sure that this issue doesn’t go away.  Matt Stoller’s (?) comments about how the national attention on the CT senate race is completely in line with what I heard from my best friend who I stayed with in CT during the primary.  People are just fed up with the immersion.  Ned &amp; co. made a very good decision imo not to do robocalls, and for phone bankers only to talk to live people.  I can only hope that people in CT are truly fed up with hearing his (L-man’s) whiny voice on the phone. (I assume that the L-man campaign are still leaving robo-calls).  I am still very hopeful about the outcome of the CT race.</p>
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