
(Photo credit to REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque. Great shot, which truly captures President Bush's petulant mood through the entire press conference yesterday in one snap of the shutter. Here's my question, if the boss wants to call a presser less than two weeks before an election just to yell at reporters and fillibuster questions for an hour, do you (a) say "yes sir" and start making calls, or (b) try to talk him out of it? My guess is (a) — thanks, WH staffers!)
While GOP candidates are running around their voting districts trying to talk about anything but the Bush Presidency and the mess that is Iraq, George Bush just could not help but bring the spotlight right back to himself yesterday.
With less than two weeks until Election Day, Mr. Bush’s decision to address the war and its problems so prominently carries the risk that he will strengthen the Democrats’ case that the midterm election is primarily a referendum on his own handling of the war.
Republican candidates around the country have been trying for months to de-emphasize the war as an issue, and to distance themselves from Mr. Bush more generally. In an interview with The Concord Monitor in New Hampshire on Tuesday, the Senate majority leader, Bill Frist, said his party’s challenge “is to get Americans to focus on pocketbook issues, and not on the Iraq and terror issue.”
If his party’s candidates want to change the subject, Mr. Bush surely did not help them on Wednesday. While the deteriorating situation in Iraq and the tumult over the war has already thrust the issue to the center of the political stage, Mr. Bush spent more than an hour discussing Iraq with reporters at the White House, acknowledging the overriding importance of the issue and stating flatly that he should ultimately be held accountable.
Thanks, George. No really…thanks. From the idiocy of your attempt to say that you were never about stay the course to yesterday's Mr. Pissy public presser where you attempted to make clear the vast difference between "benchmark" and "timetable" (oh man, good one!), the thin veil between folks believing you and believing you are trying to pull one over on them has been raised a bit more. Just in time for the elections.
And I have a little more bad news for the WH: they are losing the "mature" folks vote.
America's elderly enjoy outsized influence in elections because they vote in greater numbers, but this year they've focused their clout on the Iraq war more than traditional concerns such as health and retirement benefits.
Poll after poll shows the U.S. war is uppermost in the minds of the gray-haired legions as they help decide whether President George W. Bush's Republican Party will keep control of Congress in the Nov. 7 election.
"The war in Iraq; it upsets me terribly. I think we weren't told the truth," said 85-year-old Florence Feinstein, who recently skipped her afternoon card game to discuss Medicare prescription drug benefits with Democratic congressional representatives at a retiree center in Sunrise, Florida….
Analysts expect the war focus will favor Democrats because voters are in the mood for change and because the strongest anti-war sentiment is among Democrats and independents, who are also more eager to get to the polls than Republicans are.
Mature folks vote…in droves. And if they are this angry about being lied to by the Bush Administration on Iraq, and this disgusted with the Republicans who control both houses of Congress for letting them get away with it, then it could turn out to be a very interesting election indeed.
Let's just say that the media is doing everything it can to muddy the waters a bit, though, on accountability for the mess that is Iraq. From Media Matters, we get the following:
On the October 24 edition of CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, Jim Axelrod and Couric did not bat an eye at the suggestion that the administration might be holding off on changes in Iraq policy until the election. Axelrod reported that a White House official told him, "[D]o not expect to see anything significant prior to Election Day" "as far as a significant change" in the Bush administration's Iraq policy. Axelrod then quoted the official, who said: "You're not going to see anything before November 8th. It would be political suicide, and Karl Rove would never allow it." (emphasis mine)
So, let me get this straight: October is the bloodiest month we've seen in Iraq in the last year — we have lost somewhere around 96 soldiers this month alone, as I type this — but our soldiers are just going to have to keep gutting things out there under a failed, craptastic policy because changing things now might make George Bush and the Republican party look bad?!? Oh yeah, by all means, let's put face saving tactics for the GOP ahead of the lives and safety of our soldiers on the ground.
Who are these people?!?
I happen to have some good friends serving in Iraq at the moment, and their safety and their lives are worth a helluva lot more than George Bush's ego and Karl Rove's election playbook. And I would bet that the families and friends of every single soldier in Iraq right now would agree with me. Nice way to put the Republican party's interests ahead of our soldiers and our nation, George.
I'd like to say that this appallingly selfish and power-hungry viewpoint was a surprise — but the fact that it is not just screams volumes as to why so many people in America are talking about the desire for change being a primary factor in their vote come November.
Thomas Ricks calls yesterday's presser for what it was: an election stunt wherein the President said nothing new, he just tried to coat the same old, same old with a new layer of shiny varnish. No surprise there — this has been the Bush Administration "stragety" for the last few years: admit only as much of a problem as you think the public wants to hear about, then go on the attack against anyone who would dare have doubts about the Bush Administration failures, then spend time going on ad nauseum that anyone who has questions lacks sufficient faith in our soldiers and our nation with the caveat that the President is, of course, not questioning their patriotism even though what they are thinking is certainly unpatriotic in his book. Lather, rinse, repeat.
But then again, what can one expect from a Republican Administration which publicly proclaims that waterboarding is a valuable tool, and leaves it at that? I think it comes down to the deluded level of thought that keeps pouring out of this Republican Administration at every turn — and Digby nails it with this paragraph:
Did you know that the GWOT is harder and more challenging than any war in human history because the enemy are lethal cold-blooded killers? It is. Nobody has ever faced such a terrifying foe as George W. Bush and we should be grateful that he has courageously faced them down with nothing more than a prayer and a codpiece.
I just lost a great uncle who was very, very dear to me, who floated around in the ocean on an oil drum during WWII, along with a lot of his shipmates who were similarly stuck on tiny bits of floating ship remnants and rafts and other oil drums waiting, and waiting, and waiting for rescue when their battleship was sunk. And as the hours passed, they watched shipmate after shipmate sink into the water due to injuries or, worse, watched sharks pick them off, one by one, as they clung to what little bits they could and prayed for someone to come and pull them out of the sea.
George Bush and his stream of excuses and buck-passing and lack of accountability — and the entire Republican party apparatus of refusing to take any responsibility for this utter lack of planning and the strategic mess and blunder that is Iraq…that this is where America is mired today is despicable and cowardly because the Republicans who control policy decisionmaking in Washington haven't had the guts to stand up and say "enough."
That George Bush would try to stand up and say that "his" fight is somehow more difficult or noble than those that have come before…I cannot even say the words that I am thinking at the moment.
If I had my druthers, George Bush would have to go down to Walter Reed with Rep. Jack Murtha (D-PA) for the day and see just how brave a human being could be. And just what the consequences of holding on to a failed series of policies until after the election can cost…12 days and counting, George. How many soldiers will be maimed? Killed? How many civilians in Iraq caught in the crossfire? How many more people will be asked to die for your mistakes, to keep your ego and the Republican party's hold on power intact, because you refuse to make any changes until after the election, because you and Karl Rove decided it would be a bad political move?
Our soldiers are not pawns. They are living, breathing human beings with family and friends and children…and they deserve better than this. America deserves better than this.
Had enough? Vote for Democrats. Because the Republican party cannot be trusted to police themselves — they have had more than five years to be a rubber stamp for the Bush Administration, and look where that has gotten all of us. Get every person you know to vote for Democrats as well. It is past time to get out our vote and then some.
Accountability…NOW.
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Elections 2006! Christy! FDL!
I understand the desperation to succeed in Iraq. No one in the administration can countenance the possibility that it has all been for nothing, that we have squandered thousands of lives and untold treasury only to fail. I can almost sympathize with their predicament. It’s time to relieve their suffering at the polls. The president likes to think he is like Lincoln, but even Lincoln said that we will prevail only when we find someone who can face the arithmetic of the war. In this case that arithmetic is that no amount of expenditure in blood and treasure will avail us in this conflict. The people of Iraq either have the will to prevent the further effusion of blood within its borders or it doesn’t. We created the power vacuum but we cannot and should not fill it. One of the main neoconservative arguments is that we have promoted stability instead of freedom. Well then let’s quit trying to force a new stabilization and let the people of Iraq come to grips with their choices themselves. We can still help by insuring that the inevitable period of violence and chaos doesn’t engulf the rest of the region. But as for Iraq, it is time to go.
I’m so glad the grown ups are in charge over there. 96 dead this month
If there’s anyone left that thinks Chris Matthews was for the Iraq invasion, well…..
MATTHEWS: What do you think of the judgment of your fellow Democrats who voted to approve the war? Their judgment? Were they smart, were they visionary? What were they?
Why did they support a war that turned out to be so bad? That seems to be so misconceived that anybody who studied history for two weeks would have known that third world countries don‘t like being invaded by white people from the West, Europeans or Americans.
They have always resisted invasion. They have always turned nationalistic against any outside occupier. It‘s absolutely predictable. And this president didn‘t know it, but why didn‘t the Democrats know it?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15428213/
Nice post Redd. Election prospects look good so far, but I fear that they have already captured Osama and are waiting for next week to “unveil” him. (If we have to have an October surprise, that would be a preferable to an invasion of Iran…..or Massachusetts.)
Preparing the ’stab in the back’ legend. While I have no doubt that Bush believes the tripe he spouts — in the measure that he even understands what he is sayin — I think the deeper purpose is to establish the backstab legend that when failure comes, it was because the Democrats lacked the will to see victory through. This would mean that the White House has essentially conceded two big thins: (1) that the war is lost; and (2) that the Democrats will win at least one branch of Congress. If so, the smart play from its standpoint is to prepare the rhetorical ground for blaming the Democrats and peace advocates for everything that will happen anyway.
It seems that our representatives in DC were bamboozled by the bad intelligence. Why, I don’t know. I mean, we were in the streets. I knew those photos Colin Powell took to the UN were BS. I have no special insight beyond that I knew W was the WORST President ever, a liar, and a bully.
I don’t know what happens when they get to DC. They lose all their street smarts, if they had any to begin with.
I do think the public knows now that W lies and lied. The more he goes on the air, the more it hurts him. Liar, Liar, Liar.
Have at it you lying MoFo. We have had enough!!
…I cannot even say the words that I am thinking at the moment.
Aw, go ahead….
Why be competent when deceit, dishonesty, fraud, bribery, kick backs, smear campaigns, lies, and Lots and Lots of campaign donations will win almost every time. The sheeple eat it up, and turn on American Idol, or the latest chapter of pretty, dumb, blond and missing . And they can refinance their house to gamble in Las Vegas, or suntan in Florida for a couple of weeks while digging the debt hole that much deeper.
The neo-cons had no more an intention of bringing “democracy” to Iraq than the Nazi’s had bringing it to Poland. They had to sell a war to people who ask for facts in 30 second sound bites, and fear sells like nothing else. So they lined up the “reasons” for the war and have spewed them out. One lie at a time, until even the Kool-aid swilling fooles could no longer accept it with a straight face, then just switch to the next lie. No explanation necessary, because the latest lie is the only relevant lie as far as their justification of the war is concerned. The previous lie that is discarded is inoperative, and bringing it up is simply being unpatriotic. We are at the point when the lies have failed to cover up the stench of the fiasco the neo-cons have wrought upon us.
NOW they have the Gall to ask what the progressives, who screamed at the top of their lung NOT to go, what we would do with the abortion of a country they made Iraq into. It is not what went wrong that haunts them, but the fact that with their voter suppression and Diebold machines, and wiz bang GOTV campaigns it might not be enough this time. So they attempt to spread the blame to all of us because WE have no plan to fix what they broke even if we tried to tell then NOT to. That is NO plan, and therefore we are at fault for not pulling their assess out of the fire.
Drowning people, destroyed cities in both Iraq and America, body bags, and piles of Iraqi torture victims at the Baghdad morgue do not slow them down. Tens of thousands of innocent people swept up for nothing more than being in the wrong skin at the wrong time, is the price they indigenous population is expected to pay for the “freedom” they got. Freedoms like being tortured at Abu Ghraib, and having their homes raided, and getting shot at checkpoints because they were never raised to speak English. It is collateral damage for the plan, the PNAC plan to control the oil market and middle east for another generation. We who were not anointed by GOD are supposed to sit down and shut up, because we obviously have NO right to challenge them in their mission, which it seems was NOT ACCOMPLISHED after all.
But that is a small detail that the rightwingnut talking heads can pass of as the fault of those who impeded them from achieving the righteous plans of dear leader. Remember it really is all our fault we did not fight harder for their illegal plans. We did not give up enough freedoms and sacrificed the lives of those they send into harms way silently enough(except for the photo ops of memorial day and veterans day). The troops are supposed to fight the war, and show up for the patriotic campaign backdrop images. Those who care for them should be grateful that the troops were given the chance to serve dear leader.
It is really all our fault we are not grateful enough, not for what they stole, No we are not grateful enough for what they have not stolen yet, and we still have. We are at fault because we dare to question them, and demand a resemblance to the reality we see, NOT the spin they claim it is. We complicate their plans because we will NOT rubber stamp them like their sycophantic minions in congress have for the last four years have done. And we expect results that include more than an increase of their bottom line, and an ever rising stock market.
Silly us, we thought the country was about all of us, which included truth, justice, honor, and a shared responsibility. At least NOW we know the error of our ways.
Does any of this really matter? The election results have been predetermined, courtesy of Diebold and voter suppression.
What we need to focus on is the response to the coming travesty. Do we take it lying down –again– or do we fight?
If we fight, how? I can’t quite picture Americans taking to the streets en masse with torches and pitchforks.
Just what the hell are we going to do?
OT…
David Kuo on MSNBC calling Michael J. Fox courageous and Rush Limbaugh appalling.
He’s waiting, waiting for the White House to denounce Limbaugh.
Hooray!
Great post, Christy! Thank you.
OT–David Kuo just slammed Rush Limbaugh on msnbc.
avenging at 10 — yes, it matters. We turn out voters in droves, no amount of tweaking at the margins can go on. Period. What would you suggest we do — roll over and say, “here just take the election?” No thanks. I’ll take fighting to the finish. This election comes down to turnign out a vote so large that there can be no doubt as to who won. We need to all — ALL — be working on getting out our vote. Period.
Sonate,
I think an unveiling of OBL at this juncture would be so clearly cynical that it would backfire. If they had done it a month or so ago then maybe, but now? It would be a far too outrageous coincidence for anyone to accept. Who knows though? Maybe it’s a hail mary they would be willing to toss up.
Christy at 13–
But didn’t we do that in 2004? Sorry to be such a negative Nancy here, but I’ve really gotta wonder…
There were many that were not bamboozled but made the politically calculated decision to avoid being called “soft on Saddam”.
It is why Democrats often get the “weak and unprincipled” epithets fired at them.
People like Fiengold, Levin, Bob Graham and Obama weren’t bamoozled….yet we know Hillary needed to burnish her “toughness” credentials.
It was a politcal maneuver by Bush and Rove, the most politically calculating pair of goons ever to sit in Washington together.
-GSD
Thank you Christy!!! This more than any of the other sludge in this election has my teeth on edge. The war is total fucking disaster and they are going to wait until after the election to even address the issue.
How can you ask the voters to give up their child in order to maintain a republican majority?
Who will be the lucky soldier that is the last to die before election day so that our so called leaders can continue to dodge their resposibility for this disaster?
These people are monsters!
Christy, my condolences on your loss.
It’s so hard to hear the daily news from Iraq and then watch our delusional, arrogant leader spin his CYA cloak of lies during his relentless, repeated, torturous press conferences.
The troops that we ask so much of deserve better leadership from their CIC and better oversight from Congress. Rawstory has a report of the toll this war is taking on the troops: Veteran Disabilities Sykrocket – To Hell and Back
I can’t quite picture Americans taking to the streets en masse with torches and pitchforks.
I can.
I’m taking the day off on the 7th and 8th and doing whatever I can to help GOTV. Won’t help much in Hancock County Indiana but I’ll do it anyway. I’m taking the 8th to drink, hopefully in celebration. Maybe I should drive out to Baron Hill country and volunteer there…
avenging_angel @ 10
First, you’re going to recognize that every precinct in every state does not use Diebold machines.
Second, you’re going to recognize that Diebold tactics can work with a close race and a compliant media, but the disjoin between Bushco’s fake reality and real public opinion has just gotten too great. You can’t turn a solid majority and not draw attention to yourself.
Third, you’re going to get off your defeatist ass and quit whining.
Then we can talk about we.
avenging at 15 — no, we didn’t. Our GOTV efforts were good in some areas, spotty in others. But Dean has put some much better controls in terms of poll watching and training in place in states that need it — and a lot of campaigns are taking it much, much more seriously this year. Vote early, get your friends, family and work colleagues to vote, and volunteer for a local campaign to do GOTV efforts. That is our absolute best shot at taking every seat we can — and the only way we are going to do it this election. Period.
If anyone is wondering where a great place to concentrate efforts might be — it is on Secretary of State elections. If you live in Ohio, especially — PLEASE help out the Sec of State candidate. The GOP just dumped a buttload of money into that race, and our Dem candidate needs GOTV help. Today. Thanks!
AA,
I am convinced that the results are going to be so overwhelming that shennanigans won’t work.
-GSD
This is a man who blew up frogs. As any mental health professional will tell you – those are early signs of a sociopath.
Bush has no regard for human life because a) he’s a sick fuck and b) those who accept Jesus as far better off in heaven anyway.
What KILLS me? The people who still support him. I will go to my grave still trying to understand THAT one.
Landrieu’s NOLA ought to be outraged that she would hang out with Joe “Brownie” Lieberman.
Wonder if Lamont will hit him with Katrina…
Cheney is now reported to have unapologetically admitted that we’ve used waterboarding, but that it’s not “torture.”
I would simply LOVE to have the opportunity to try it out on his fat “Other Priorities” ass and see what he thought about it afterward.
OT – unintentional irony? go look at the Raw Story home page. on the left: that often-seen head shot of the rather large CEO of Exxon-Mobile, yucking it up. Right next to it, this headline:
Extra pounds may lower gas mileage
Study: Americans burn billion gallons each year due to expanding waistlines.
Impeachment Happens @ 24
Link to an article about Bush at Harvard B School – Enlightening read
The Dunce
The “October Surprise” window is really about as closed as it can get.
Anything that happens now is just too close to the election.
Kind of like in Spain when there were terrorist attacks and the leaders tried to blame ETA instead of Al Qaeda……That didn’t work for the “tough on terror” Aznar.
-GSD
BobbyG @ 26
The nonsociopathic population of planet Earth begs to differ.
BobbyG @
26
If that slimey fat f*ck was water boarded, Mr 4 heart attacks only afterwords would be Hello Satan.
Another great one for Spotlighting.
Vote early, get your friends, family and work colleagues to vote
My nephew posted this morning on his blog that he and his wife have voted (paper) absentee ballots. I’ll vote on the 7th – the polling place is close enough to where I live (for a change) that I can walk up after work, won’t need time off to do it, shouldn’t (barring emergency) need to use an electonic machine. I just wish I didn’t have to hold my nose while marking the ballot.
Sorry, this is OT. Tbogg has a terrific political ad on stem cells. I don’t do linkies, but maybe someone can bring it on over. Hope we see this one on the TeeVee.
MSNBC just showed a poll showing that 22% of voters say that the Foley scandal would/might(?) affect their vote. Kris Jansen blew it off with a question starting with the observation that 74% said it would not affect their vote.
I tend to think that a scandal that might affect the vote of 22% of the electorate is a rather big deal.
And Ms. Jansen is really starting to get on my nerves.
Here the linky to TBogg
:-)
Cheney’s interview with NPR was a hoot. They got to go to his office and in reference to a map on his wall he briefly talked about his great grandad fighting in the civil war. Later when the question was asked if Iraq was already in civil war he said “No, civil war is like Antietam, Gettysburg”. What a chucklehead. He might as well have said “No, civil wars have horses and wagons”.
Dr. Bong @ 36
Thank you, sweetie!
jayt @ 19
My husband (retired USMC) reminds me almost daily…
“I took an oath to protect my country from all enemies, foreign and domestic“.
While speaking of pitchforks, I remind my parents that we, the citizens, MUST take back our country if the elections do not go as everyone is predicting. My 80-year old father, veteren of the War in the Pacific brings up Hoover’s treatment of the Bonus Army in 1932.
If there is to be a revolution, I hope we organize well. Maybe the retired generals will help lead us.
From the beginning, this administration has substituted spin for sound policies. Unfortunately, it was enough to fool a lot of gullible voters, however it never worked outside the U.S. and only a truly delusional individual like George W. Bush would believe that a war can be won with P.R. alone.
If I had MY druthers, Bush and the PNAC cabal would trade places with our troops in Iraq.
Not having a torch or pitchfork, I’ll use my cane. Mature voter.
Forget the pitchforks. If it comes to it, we’ll use our 2nd Amendment rights and get out the big guns.
jayt @ 35
What Ms. Jansen failed to notice is that the proportion who say La Cage Aux Foley won’t affect their vote very probably includes a large number who had no intention of voting Republican even before the scandal broke. You’re right…that 22% sounds to me like the undecideds, and we know what tends to happen when undecided voters finally get to the polls.
EvilDrPuma @
21
I’m with You. We can take Our country back.
Kinda sounds like the campaign of Charlie Crist, the not-gay GOP candidate for governor of Florida, needs to get across the finish line before somebody’s closet door comes flying open:
http://www.browardpalmbeach.co…..print.html
beth meacham @ 42
Hear Hear!!
Sally @ 41
See if you can track down a few episodes of “The Avengers.” I’m sure some of Steed’s umbrella-fighting tricks could be easily adapted for the cane.
(D)Kulongoski is now pulling way ahead in the polls and (D) Granholm in Michigan is also pulling ahead of Amway Legacy Devos.
There are now very few Democrats in jeopardy.
So on election day there will be few, if any Dem incumbents swept away and the R’s will be losing in places like Ohio, New York, Mass. and Arkansas for Governorships….
Again with all the talk ofthe Republican “ground game” they may also end up mobilizing lots of R’s who will vote against them.
-GSD
Driveby from Miami.
Forgot to tell TRex I’m in for his tour.
Have a sunny day!
The Candidate
This is the first politician I’ve heard in decades with the will and the ability to directly and passionately speak the truth to the common man.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fis….._46136.asp
And more bloodshed in Afghanistan:
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/…..62006.html
TeddySanFran @ 45
The last temptation of Crist.
-GSD
GSD @ 52
Jesus wept. (He was laughing that hard.)
Republicans want to save face.
Democrats want to save lives.
After reading Glen Greenwald this morning, I have to think that we need to consider the possibility that, after 8 November, we’ll see them ratchet the war up, not down, putting more of our troops at serious risk.
And what about those naval battle groups in the Tonkin, sorry, Persian Gulf?
Funny, that Crist article talks about how Charlie’s theocon ticket-punch happened when he adamantly opposed a play put on at some state college (presumably with public funds) that featured a gay Jesus.
heh.
More good news:
Blackwell engineered challenge to Strickland ended.
This is the Ohio Guv race, so it looks like that one is in the bag.
Also, Warren Rudman, former NH Senator spoke out about the war and slapped Crummy Rummy right in the face and said the military is doing too much with too little and it is bad, bad, bad.
-GSD
Technically wouldn’t one lather, then rinse, then repeat?
I know I’m in a lather about these politicians with blood on their hands.
My dad is 87, and took what he calls a “walking tour” of North Africa and Sicily, including lovely Anzio beach.
He’s a lifelong Republican, and he’s pissed as hell. He knows the sacrifices the troops make, and he knows too well the cynical politicians who send boys to die for their own profit.
He’s already voted, and it was a straight Demorcatic ticket. He loves his country, and he passed that love on to me. I’m so proud of him. Lots of other seniors are going to do the same, mark my words.
egregious @ 54
it really is that simple.
Bush’s press conference yesterday was infuriating but, like Christy gets at, it was a GIFT. Put that S.O.B. up there everyday until the election and let him sputter and flail.
Brian Boru @ 55
They may want to ratchet up the war but if they are solidly defeated as the new polls indicate it will be everyman for himself and such chaos within their ranks I seriously doubt they would dare try.
newspaperbrat @ 62
W needs a session with Nurse Ratchet.
A lot of seniors are in the middle of the”donut” hole in their Medicare Part D, and they aren’t gonna be happy come November 7th, with all the money they have to put out the beginning of the month for the drugs that they have to pay for after their Medicare fizzled out.
The GOP has pissed off seniors and the military and some of the religious right, they have to be delusional if they think all of their “base” is happy and willing to vote for them ONE more time.
My mother is 82 today. She is asking her friends, Republican like her, to vote for the Democrats in Ohio.
If you want to add a comment to my birthday message for her, it’s over at my humble blog assuming blogger is up once again.
Gotta roll. Hope to find internet connection in the DR but if not seeya Really Late the 30th.
Smooches. And FIGHT BACK!!!
Thanks merciless,
LMAO
Great gratitude to your Father for his service to our country.
punaise @ 63
Bwahahahahahaha!
avenging_angel @
10
Of *course* it matters. In case of election, do not panic. Planning ahead is always good, too.
1.) GOTV. Voter suppression cannot work if voters are not suppressed. Check to see of you are registered at http://www.mydem.com. Call everyone you know and urge them to check to see if they are registered, too. If you are in a position to do so, give them a ride to the polls. Recommend that they plan for a long wait and bring snacks, water, etc. and *lots of ID*. Even in “safe” districts, remind them that a poll is only a prediction of how folks will vote and means nothing if they don’t actually get out and do it.
2.) Spread the buzz — put out signs on your lawn, phone bank (call you local for info or do it from home through MoveOn.org — easy!). Talk it up at work, at the beauty salon/barber shop, daycare — wherever. Go to candidate events and take friends along. There may still be time to organize a candidate meeting too, but you’ll have to hustle on that.
3.) Write letters to the editors of you local papers, ditto radio, TV and cable. Spotlight issues that are important to you, tie in a candidate pro or con if that works for you.
4.) Help make every vote count. Make sure you are registered to vote and help others check at http://www.mydem.com or by calling your local party office or election registrar. I know I mentionned it twice — it’s important. Find out about provisional ballots, too, just to be on the safe side. Volunteer to poll-watch to make sure everything goes down OK. Vote by absentee (paper) ballot *if* that is a good idea in your county. Be aware of possible voting scams, more info here and here.
5.) Urge your candidate not to concede defeat until every last vote is counted and every last allegation of any impropriety is settled. Note: the ‘official’ pronouncement may not be good enough, witness Busby/Bilbray in CA.
6.) If all else fails, I’ve got a pitchfork. Meet you in the town square at 6:00pm.
Christy, this is certainly one of the best posts every written at FDL. Thank you for your passion and eloquence.
Christy – your heartfelt posts are the best anywhere at putting to words the barely contained rage that so many of us feel. merci.
On this topic, former Sen. Warren Rudman was awarded the Association of the United States Army (AUSA)’s George C. Marshall award, and spoke out on this very topic in his acceptance speech (via McClatchy):
The whole address is really worth reading. It’s not long, but it’s very much to the point.
(I also posted a longer excerpt over at Kos, if any of my Firepeeps care to recommend that so it gets wider circulation.)
Karen Hughes would make a great Nurse Wretched.
-GSD
HotFlash @ 68
I’m not ready to make noose yet.
Get
Out
The
Vote
avenging_angel @
15
You really are being a negative Nancy. My grandma referred to this sort of BS as “borrowing trouble”. You may be totally sincere for all I know, but it is a form of neurosis. Work for the best, prepare for the worst. GOTFV and polish up your pitchfork. BTW, these new solar-powered torches are just the cat’s meow — bright and not the least bit smokey!
amen, egregious…
and VOTE EARLY.
(I’ll resist the overwhelming temptation to say vote early and often.)
I voted early this morning. It’s a snap. I’ve got on my “I voted” sticker as a conversation starter with my students, too.
Christy -
it seems the Chimp has been visiting the wounded -
http://derenegade.blogspot.com…..-boom.html
The face of the new Republican Party.
Wulsin ad uses the Mean Jean Schmidt House smearing of Murtha in a campaign spot.
Schmidts spokesmen says that House rules prevent members from using images from the floor campaign spots and Wulsin better knock it off or else.
Only problem, Wuslin isn’t a House member, just a candidate, so the rules don’t apply to her.
Priceless.
-GSD
My grandmother is 80 and just came home from the hospital after a bout of pnuemonia. She is a very active member of the local VFW Auxillary. The other day when I was there, some of the ladies came to visit. My grandmother has been raling against W for his shoddy treatment of veterans, his stupidity of going after Iraq and leaving North Korea to it’s own devices and for generally being a shmuck for four years now. She is normally in the minority among the VFW ladies, but the other day, I heard three tell her “You know Marie, you were right about this guy.” They are republicans now voting Dem in a very red part of this state.
Seniors went through wars, remember living with the threat of the USSR and Korea, they benefited from fair treatment of their veterans and are pissed.
newspaperbrat @ 62
Latest Gallup Poll…
Only 9% want to send more troops. The poll of 1,007 adults was taken Oct. 20-22.
http://editorandpublisher.com/…..&imw=Y
bonzarella @ 69
Definitely a great post, Christy.
BTW, do we have a winner on Monday’s contest?
My mom is 88 and has converted her entire quilting group to lstening to Thom Hartman every day.
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Does anyone think that the Chafee ($650) and Akaka ($1054) comparison on petty cash I noted in prior thread is helpful in showing Tortureman’s slush fund for what it is? I was going to look into other races, but if no one thinks it adds to the debate, I’ll drop it.
MayDaze at 81 — am putting together a post on that right now. :) Hopefully, we’ll have a winner by tomorrow. hehehehe Some really good quotes, too!
any local FDLers going to check this out tonight?:
I’ll be the heckler in front, singing songs in German.
EvilDrPuma @ 47
Sally, I recommend video #2 on hanbo (3 foot stick) techniques.
Sparcatus at 83 — I absolutely thought it was useful. In fact, if you look at other races, and can send information on the numbers and links to me or to Jane, I think we would both be VERY interested. This is one loophole that NO candidate should try to expolit — the potential for money laundering or vote buying or any number of other illegal activities is too great in something that is this high stakes. And it is an issue that needs a LOT more sunshine. Really appreciate you taking a look at it.
I think Katie meant to follow up with Jim’s question:
Jim Jenkins @ 17
…but her earpiece decided to go to commercial instead.
She is useless.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 84
Very cool. Thanks, Christy, you do great work here.
punaise @ 73
I feel a torch song comin’ on…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 87
Cool. Thanks Christy. I’ll take another couple races over the weekend. I thought starting with contested primaries was the right place to start…
HotFlash @ 90
this season is bearing some strange fruits.
(OK, on how many fronts is my comment offensive and tactless?)
sonate @ 5
I have every confidence that given the incompetence they have shown in Iraq, the Bush Administration would not be able to defeat the insurgency in Massachusetts.
“If I had my druthers, George Bush would have to go down to Walter Reed with Rep. Jack Murtha (D-PA) for the day and see just how brave a human being could be.”
That’d be swell — if GW had a scintilla of empathy. But he’s a clinical sociopath. He cannot see, comprehend or in any way grasp any one else’s pain, suffering, point of view, feelings et cetera. Have you ever heard anyone use the words ‘I understand…’ more frequently and with more stunning irony?
GW could stand before a colliseum full of people who bare the scars brought about by his war — and not feel the least twinge of responsibility. ‘Monstrous’ does not begin to describe the Caligula-like arrogance and brutality of who and what this man really is.
Sparcatus, I completely agree with CHS.
Showing Lieberman4Lieberman as a total outlier wrt $387,000 in PETTY cash also puts more pressure on the FEC to take action BEFORE the election.
Check this out –
Since all politics is local, here’s a heads up.
There’s a discussion on Tennessean.com about the Ford/Corker ads including the recent radio ad which features “jungle drums” (similar to those in a 50’s era Tarzan film) whenever Ford is mentioned.
http://www.tennessean.com/apps…..016/NEWS02
You can sign up to post comments ;-)
BTW, just this week I received calls from ACT and PFAW. They said they were reactivating the rolodex from 2004 and want me to get back involved. I was kind of shocked, because it was so late in the game that they were finally getting around to this.
HotFlash @ 75
But if they’re solar powered won’t we have to use them in the day? If only there were some sort of electrical energy storage device.
Rumsfeld talking now – I sense Olbermann ammo is on the way…
Thank you for the much-needed smack in the face, EvilDrPuma (#21). You’re absolutely right.
Thank you, Christy (#22) for the info.
I’ll do what I can; I just wish I could shake this nagging sense of foreboding.
HotFlash @ 90
Perhaps it’s time to recycle “If I Had a Hammer”?
Oh, for hell’s sakes — now Rumsfeld has switched to saying “adapt and adjust.” Hey, it’s the Bush Administration Iraq Mess Slogan of the Day! Yee haw!
EDP (47) and HotFlash (86), anything that doesn’t require exertion. My idea of exercise is getting out of bed in the morning.
Redshift @
71
I guess Warren Rudman is just being unpatriotic;
When I went throught ROTC they still taught the values of Gen George C Marshall to every officer candidate.
He would have MADE mincemeat out of both Ronald McDumsfeld and the Idiot in Chief.
He would have told Tommy Franks if He wanted a battle plan by a second lieutenant, He would have had ONE write it, and would have sent him back for a complete competent battle plan including PHASE 4 (follow on to combat operations including a complete security plan).
Three by my count. Next you’ll be talking about Don and his gay apparel. Me, I’m just a hugger of stout trees and I’ve got be a bit of rope, in case.
Rummy seems especially nutty today. I wouldn’t trust this guy to wash my car.
He’s off his meds to show us the reality of his situation.
punaise @ 85
Isn’t Lakoff on our side? My friend invited me but I couldn’t go…
Rumsfeld: Two provinces have already been handed over to the Iraqi’s.
Does anyone actually live in those (unnamed) provinces? I think I’ve seen this movie before.
TritoneSubstitution @ 98
Sorry, I forgot. Now if that damned Bill Clinton has only invented the battery!
(OK, on how many fronts is my comment offensive and tactless?)
HotFlash @ 105
ooh…trifecta….too early for Xmas songs, so I’ll stop there
Christy Hardin Smith @ 102
“Cut the Course” “Stay and Run”
Adapt and Adjust the Lies.
_
avenging_angel @ 100
Well, maybe you could think about why you are calling yourself Avenging Angel? That name sounds promisingly uppity, if a little late to the party.
punaise @ 92
Billie Holliday reference meant for Tennessee? Would seem about right.
angie @
25
Angie, I’ve been outraged at Landrieu for so long that it’s hard not to be totally cynical.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 102
The desperation is becoming as predictable as it is amusing.
Pull quote up now at MSNBC from Harold Ford this morning on Imus. Exactly.
And a heads-up that Chris Dodd will be on Imus’s show Friday at 7:29 a.m. Eastern. See on MSNBC, hear on WFAN livestreamed.
Rummy seems to be using the old mantra;
When the old lie you tell doesn’t work any more,
try a new lie.
Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld just need to keep talking us to the polls.
I know the blogs will lead the way if this election is tampered with, but it might be a good idea to set up a network to get protest info out, like txt mob — might be good for election day too, to alert large groups quickly to any “problems.”
Just got back from 2 1/2 hours at the dentist- worse than watching a Clusterfuck speech!
On “diebold”. Yeah it’s a concern- but I really wish people would stop bringing it up unless it’s in the context of a suggestion of what to do about it. It doesn’t help to hyperventilate about it- and the bottom line is it can serve to discourage political action- “What’s the point of getting involved or voting- they’ll just steal it anyway”—that’s exactly what Karl Rove would LOVE dems to be saying.
I’ll be the heckler in front, singing songs in German.
Jacqrat @ 108
yes, the panel is all “good guys”. I was making an oblique reference to the CT Senate debate earlier this week.
punaise @ 85
Is that what kos ordered?
What I want to know: who the f*ck elected Karl Rove to dictate military strategy and foreign policy?
Why does the media just roll over and play dead whenever idiots like Axelrod and Couric ignore that the largest military in the world isn’t being run by the SecDef, but by that f*cking pasty slug, Karl Rove, purely for political reasons?
AAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!! Election Day cannot come soon enough!!!
rwcole @ 121
Yep. Can the word “diebold” be added to the spam filter here? It’s getting old
Rayne @ 124
for the record, slugs aren’t pasty, they’re slimy. still fits.
Oh, snap…he’s asking himself questions and answering them again!!!
Well done, Kemo.
Strange Fruit
Warning: the phtoto is very graphic.
OT, Tweety has been great on the white supremacy ads that Corker has been running against Ford. Nice to see a European American out front on this. reinforcing that we’re all Americans first.
Watching Rumseld – Is the press as incredulous as I am. Are they all sitting there thinking “He’s lost his mind.”
Are they watching the Wizard after the curtain’s been pulled aside still trying to convince everyone he’s the Great and Powerful Oz?
Christy Hardin Smith @
102
Getting to the point where one is going to have to grade and rank them for insanity. “I give Rummy a 8.9 on delusion technique and a 6.2 for style.”
The only way out of Iraq is the fall of the Bush administration, for the world to even reconsider thinking of the USA as a serious world participant, as well as to earn back a little bit of trust in the Arab/Muslin street, that would allow for any kind of peace process to get hold even among enemies since the beginning of time…
punaise @ 122
D’oh. Sorry (insert more coffee into orifice before engaging typing fingers…
punaise @ 126
If Karl wants to play Army should he go to Iraq and man a post?
I’m sure he would receive a warm welcome from all the soldiers and marines who he has screwed over for his Machiavellian games.
And just for kicks, he could get the full Iraqi style tour in Abu Ghraib, including three days in the water boarding room.
punaise — pasty, as in color, not in texture.
If something could be both slimey and pasty, it’s that walking Can-o-Crisco Karl.
I’m not sure how #129 happened, but Word Press has been eating my comments all morning, and now it’s doubly regurgitating my most recent.
If the moderator’s wish to remove, please do.
Rayne @ 134
you’ll get no argument there
GWB bought land in Paraguay?
Senate race seems to be unchanged.
It will apparently come down to three races. All are currently “toss ups” inside the margin of error.
Dems need two out of three.
Missourin, Tennessee, Virginia.
If there’s any movement at all, it’s that Tennessee may be goin a little more gooper and Virginia may be turnin a little more dem- but none of it is movin much either way.
The senate can still go either way- but goopers have a bit of an advantage.
Impeachment Happens at 10:33, that was my impression watching the Bush PC clips last night that Olbermann provided. The Press appeared very uncomfortable, not asking follow-ups, not laughing at Bush’s towell snapping.
Although credit given where due: who’d have thought one could buy a suit for a Can-o-Crisco?
Let alone give it the second most valuable office in the White House.
Only in America. They envy not our freedom, but our idiocy; we have surely up-ended the Darwinian law of survival of the fittest if we permit these morons and a Can-o-Crisco to run the largest economy in the world.
I guess he got a dose of the bad tempers from the boosh– hollering at the press.
Thanks for that John. A women before her time, and gone too soon; talk about a brave American.
Rayne @ 124
Spot On.
Remember, Katie got her start sucking up to General Norman Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War. War has been very very good to her.
angie @ 141
I think this yelling is sort of related to the “Ugly American” syndrome. If the reporters don’t nod their heads in agreement, the Bushies just act like they’re in a foreign country and shout louder.
windje @ 137
Of course! That’s where all nazis go to live out the rest of their lives.
Wow. Chris Shays is in for it. h/t to atrios:
http://www.tnr.com/user/nregi……ruta110606
But, while Shays may want his constituents to know about his first–and most daring–trip to Iraq, he apparently doesn’t want them to know how he got there. Shays’s moment of triumph in Iraq came about because he happened to already be in the Middle East–attending the third Qatar-American Conference on Free Markets and Democracy in the tiny oil-rich nation of Qatar. Shays’s visit was paid for by The Islamic Free Market Institute, a nonprofit group founded by GOP ally Grover Norquist and run by a prot�g� of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff to help bring Muslims into the Republican fold. Days before he snuck across the border to cheer on Operation Iraqi Freedom, Shays was at the Doha Ritz Carlton, comparing Connecticut, a centuries-old, economically diverse democracy, to Qatar, a monarchy ruled by a single family since its independence in 1971. “This nation, like my small state, has always played a large role in advancing participatory democracy, civil discourse, and stable commerce,” Shays told a well-heeled audience of Qatari politicians and businessmen over lunch.
Shays has been a strong advocate for public-disclosure rules over the years. “As public servants, we have a responsibility to uphold the ethics process, not weaken it,” he told The Houston Chronicle in 2005, objecting to an effort to defang House ethics rules in the wake of revelations about Tom DeLay’s overseas travels and ties to Abramoff. Those travel rules require members of Congress to file forms revealing all travel expenses paid by outside sources. But, despite his record of pushing for meticulous record-keeping, Shays’s privately sponsored trip to Qatar was notably absent from his own annual federal financial disclosure form, filed in May 2004, in violation of House rules. Nor did he submit an amendment disclosing the sponsor of his Qatar trip until confronted in mid-October 2006 by The New Republic with internal Islamic Institute receipts for his plane tickets, which were provided by an Arab American source upset with Shays’s foreign policy positions. Given his reputation and perennially contested district, it was a particularly foolhardy move.
Interesting (to me) sidelight on the current Iraq debate:
Reporters are askin Clusterfuck questions such as “Will we have permanent bases in Iraq?” “How long will we stay in Iraq”?, Will we divide Iraq?” and Clusterfuck ANSWERS them.
Everyone is ignoring the fact that Clusterfuck will be long gone in a couple of years and other criminals will be makin the decisions- besides- Iraq is supposed to have a sovereign govt! You can’t just cut the fucker up cause it seems like a good idea- or can you?
“Normal, rational and common sense ting to do”, is NOT a term he should use in conjunction with the fiasco in IRAQ
In reality the fiasco in Iraq is the exact opposite of the term he used.
rummy -
He has gone totally off his rocker in this presser!!!!! It’s like watching an implosion. And the press has done the best job of holding his feet to the fire that I’ve seen in six years!!!!!
Go Jim Miklaszewski!!!!!!!
clif @ 147
Ah, well, Rummy’s always been like McNamara on PCP….
angie @ 149
I want to have his baby.
I may have to reconsider my vote. Dems have horrible taste in drapery fabric. Imagine even considering paisleys or colors besides red white and blue!
Fear the drapes!
From the wisdom of Donald Rumsfeld:
Come on, I didn’t just fall off a turnip truck.
(When faced with a declaratory sentence) That’s a rather accusatory way of putting it.
I don’t know, I don’t know, no.
The problem is the word “it”.
I don’t know what “it” is.
It has the benefit of being true that it’s wrong.
It’s not a smooth road. It’s a bumpy road.
Thanks for a great post, Christy. You’ve given me more fodder for my phone banking tonight (for Eric Massa, NY 29).
Impeachment Happens @ 152
hee!
Rummy stomped off~!
Impeachment Happens @ 145
I was just looking to see if there is an extradition treaty. A couple more links.
Is bush planning on heading for Paraguay in January 2009
Bush Family Buying Land In Paraguay
punaise @
63
If anyone thinks that Bushco will start taking reality into account after the elections I would caution them that this is not a smart bet. This administration has been repeatedly bitten in the arse by reality: it’s had no discernible effect other than to drive them further into neocon fantasy world
angie @ 155
Quick, someone lock the door.
Hugh @ 153
Wonder if the reporters have figured out that he’s dissing them… he’s down to one- and two-syllable words….
HotFlash @ 110
Fireflies in jars? (I think I need a trip to the hardware-and-garden this weekend. Need more hardware, or something. Maybe a new trenching spade. Nice narrow blade, fairly flat.)
GW Clusterfuck is throwin social security onto the fire- not with any gusto- and not with any volume- but from time to time he mentions that he still intends to “fix” social security and that his privatization plan will come back.
If you read Woodward’s latest book- you learned that GW Clusterfuck believes that you have to mention things you want to do during an election so that if you win you can claim a mandate for em.
I can’t believe that the dems aren’t jumping on this- with video clips splashed all over senior dominated markets- it’s also the perfect subject for a Rover type direct mailer to every american over 55 or so.
If people knew that GW Clusterfuck intends to privatize social security- which he does- goopers would be dead meat.
angie @ 151
I missed it but if it was a zinger it will be on NBC Nightly News (about 9 million viewers). Heh.
angie @ 156
I wonder what General he is kicking right now?
John Casper @ 139
Hope someone got that on tape. ;)
windje @ 156
Read something on that a day or two ago. Extradition treaty signed in 2001, I think, after long, long negotiations. Only exception is Paraguay will not extradite in cases where the death penalty is involved.
Cozumel @ 163
He was like a Rottweiler with a big bone– he kept after him and wouldn’t let go!
Via the Orange Overlord:
A new national study revealed that American voters’ support for stem cell research increased after they viewed an ad featuring Michael J. Fox in which he expresses his support for candidates who are in favor of stem cell research.
[snip]
Respondents were asked to indicate what candidate they would vote for in the U.S. House of Representatives election if it was held today before and after viewing the ad.
Republicans who indicated that they were voting for a Republican candidate decreased by 10% after viewing the ad (77% to 67%). Independents planning to vote for Democrats increased by 10%, from 39% to 49%.
Measuring the draperies?
Oh no Clusterfuck- we’re not measuring the draperies- those fuckin draperies are comin DOWN and we’re gonna let the sun shine brightly on your criminal regime!
Draperies my ass!
Does the word drape or paisley trip one into moderation? lol
rwcole @ 168
the drapes of wrath
I was just looking to see if there is an extradition treaty. A couple
Read something on that a day or two ago. Extradition treaty signed in 2001, I think, after long, long negotiations. Only exception is Paraguay will not extradite in cases where the death penalty is involved.
Wow, suddenly I can see why the death penalty should be allowed in certain circumstances.
I’d say–run the fuckin Fox ad everywhere there’s a close race- regardless of the gooper’s position on the issue- most people will assume the gooper supports Clusterfuck. Just DO it!
punaise @ 170
Drear Window
Hugh -
Your 3-part analysis of bush’s presser yesterday was a lovely piece of snark. More of your comments @ 10.45, please sir :-)
montag @ 173
it’s “curtains” for the neo-con crowd
MayDaze @ 169
Where is Ron Reagan, Jr? This is his issue and yet he is not to be heard from. If I were a columnist, I might want to call him and ask him.
punaise @ 175
Or, perhaps, more dramatically, a Torn Curtain.
Actually- It’s Nancy’s issue- someone should put some vault video of her into the ads–the ol battleaxe could finally do some good.
Slightly OT – A huge, heartfelt thank you to Jon Stryker for giving all those millions of dollars to get Dems elected in the upcoming election in Michigan.
To early for curtain calls.
I’d say–run the fuckin Fox ad everywhere there’s a close race- regardless of the gooper’s position on the issue- most people will assume the gooper supports Clusterfuck. Just DO it!
Agreed. Where are the Dem. War ads? We need an onslaught of fiasco ads, imo.
And they protest. I was at one earlier this year, and I think I was the youngest one there. I’m over 40, mmkay? It looked like an AARP convention. Bunch of grey hairs carrying signs, demanding an end to the war and support for Feingold’s resolution to censure the preznit.
That day I started to feel real hope that this country could be turned around, for exactly the reasons you describe, Christy. Mature folks GOTV.
It’s probably about the end of the line for new ads- even if you produce it in a day- by the time you buy the airtime and get it up and running- this fucker’s about over.
Might be able to squeeze on in for next week- but it would be a tight squeeze.
Hmm. The Model Penal code defines a criminal homicide as murder when it is “committed recklessly under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life.” If the white house is allowing Americans to die just to prop up a failed political facade, I bet we could find 12 people who could agree that it meets the “extreme indifference” standard.
You don’t always need an affirmative act- omissions are good enough if a duty to act exists. If the defendant has a positive duty to act, and fails to do so, and someone dies, that can also be a criminal homicide…
I’d like to charge every individual in the Bush administration with the murder of each soldier who has died since this statement was made. Any takers? Come on, there must be at least one enterprising DA out there…
Christy — thanks for the impassioned piece. You reflected my feeling regarding my uncle who was plucked out of Engineering school, given a gun, shipped off to the Battle of the Bulge without adequate clothing and the first thing my grandparents new about it was when they received a telegram that telling them he was missing in action. His body was found 2 years later and he is buried in Belgium.
I think that every Decider who thinks war is a good idea should emulate Henry IV — get on his freaking horse and ride in front of the troops. That should give some true perspective.
TheOtherWA @ 183
I have protested many times with the Ragin’ Grannies. Very cool ladies.
Re the Greenwald article, the clueless Charlie Rose had on last night a series of foreign policy experts: the senile Les Gelb flogging partition of Iraq, Peter Baker saying mostly anodyne things, and the insane Paul Kagan arguing for more troops. It’s another example of going back to the people who got it so terribly wrong before and acting like they have some special knowledge and insight now. Note to Rose: These people know even less than you do, if that’s possible.
Clusterfuck as Henry iv– deliverin the plastic turkey.
Impeachment Happens @ 172
We could always change our mind and file additional charges after they send him back.
I thing it’s interesting that we assume they’ll allow him to enter the country in the first place. I wonder if the Paraguayans have anything to say about that.
/// weird, i just got the tail-end of #172 pasted on to this comment when I clicked ‘post.’
“death penalty”
revolutionaries learned long ago that if yer gonna take out the ruler- you’ve got ta take out the entire fuckin family so that there will never again be a pretender to the throne- that’d be a tall order with this gang!
Speaking of “reporters,” from Froomkin today:
David Gregory v. David Gregory
————————————————————————-
In my Tuesday column , I noted that press secretary Tony Snow, in a podcast conducted by right-wing Power Line blogger John Hinderaker, astutely noted the dramatic difference between NBC News reporter David Gregory’s combative questions in the briefing room and his on-air reports which, Snow said, do “an effective job of laying out our point of view.”
Here’s tough, skeptical David Gregory yesterday at the press conference : “So why shouldn’t the American people conclude that this is nothing from you other than semantic, rhetorical games and all politics two weeks before an election?”
Here’s stenographic NBC Nightly News David Gregory on the air yesterday: “With political pressure over the war bearing down on this White House, the president was somber today as he acknowledged the public anxiety and anger over Iraq. But at the same time, he was also insistent that U.S. losses in Iraq are worth it.”
The only skepticism in his report: a 10-second sound bite from Democratic Senator Joseph Biden.
TheOtherWA @ 182
They’re the ones who remember kids (their own and neighbors) getting drafted.
One political problem of an all volunteer army is that many seem view them differently than draftees.
‘They knew what they could be getting into when they signed up’
and as a result seem to be viewed with less compassion. It seems that some view them more expendable.
Many (if not most) signed up for education/employment reasons.
They are no more expendable than the kid who got drafted to go to Nam.
Gregory’s a good guy- one of the best in my opinion. He distinguishes between raisin hell with the Press Secretary and REPORTING.
Has Bob Ney resigned yet?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 194
NAMBLA?
“As I just said on the Sam Seder show, what’s tragic is that the conversation we’re having about Iraq right now is just about the same one we’re going to be having two years from now on the eve of the presidential election. It’s very depressing.”
-Atrios
This really got me upset today.
how pathetic is this country?
I know i have to focus on the positives………12 days………
Windje,
Absolutely. Dying for lies after being bribed with promises of college tuition is no better than dying for lies after being drafted.
smiley @ 195
aka – prison with a pension
VU prof sees racial ‘code’ in canceled ad attacking Ford
Geer likened the drumbeats in the Corker ad to “tom toms” and said Corker’s suggestions that Ford is “not one of us” could be code for Ford not being white.
http://www.tennessean.com/apps…..016/NEWS02
Cozumel @ 200
Al Franken just played it. It’s strikingly obvious.
Coz
If Ford wins in Tennessee- the south has changed a hell of a lot in fifty years!
I’m not holdin my breath.
rwcole @ 202
That’s my fear in Virginia too. I think some appreciate Allen’s views on race.
“As the days dwindle down- to a precious few”
This sucker’s gettin real close to OVER.
Not much happens on weekends- and this week’s about over. We’ve got five fightin days NEXT week- and then it’s votin time. Many (like me) have already voted.
punaise @
73
argh!
Top Story Headlines on http://news.myway.com/index/id/home.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) – The median price of a new home plunged in September by the largest amount in more than 35 years, even as the pace of sales rebounded for a second month. The Commerce Department reported that the median price for a new home sold in September was $217,100, a drop of 9.7 percent…
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Eureka Springs, AR @ 198
ha ha ha, for some reason I think of the image of Bob Ney, dressed up like one of the cheerleaders in Adam Sandler’s prison football movie…
rwcole @ 201
It would be a miracle and that’s putting it mildly.
LindyH @ 204
I’m still holding a torch for the Karl.
It’s an advantage, perhaps, that Ford doesn’t look or sound very black. My wife is from Germany and we were watching the news last night- she kept sayin- “He’s not black”. She refused to believe it.
rwcole @ 208
*cringe*
avenging_angel @ 10
Exactly. We need a plan and we need it now. The Dems have a plan for the first 100 hours of Dem leadership after the election. We need a plan for the first 100 hours after the election is stolen ( if they dare steal it). We should make it public and broadcast it accross the net.
During the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq I could not believe the amount of pure propaganda was fed to the American people. The 9/11 attack was used by the NeoCons like Bill Kristol and Richard Perle to whip up hysteria about Saddam Hussein. The media, and the cable networks in particular, played a major role in conning the American people into supporting the invasion. We were lied to by people more interested in promoting their own agenda for the Middle East than in the true interests of the American people. Now these same scumbags are trying to whip up support for regime change in Iran.
Hugh @ 187
Exactly. Another example: Nightly news interviews two people about the Bush presser: a rightwing advocate/Bush apologist for the National Review and a Washington Post reporter, E.J. Dionne. The can have reporters, or they can have advocates, but not an advocate for the right wing trying to advocate and a reporter trying to be honest. But they present this as “balance.”
avenging_angel @
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avenging_angel @
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Avenging Angel -
On November 29-30 1999 tens of thousands of Americans (and many others) took the streets en masse against the WTO’s global power grab.
We won in Seattle – and it was good fun, too.
We changed the context in which power was exercised. We changed the terrain – the massive show of domestic popular opposition to “power business as usual” worked.
Power as usual lost traction, and the WTO never recovered. In the last months the WTO again failed to reach the objectives we denied them in the streets of Seattle years before.
Home sales are down 30% in California; home prices are falling nationwide; a majority of Americans recently polled favor impeachment; the war is a dismal failure at home and in combat.
Power – the corporate and state power that uses Bush and the WTO – has lost traction.
The National Guard is badly damaged and deeply cynical about BushCo.
Of course the goopers will attempt to steal the election – they always do. Voter suppression through negative ads, disenfranchisement through culling voter registration, electoral fraud with voting machines – they’ll do all that, too.
Like Rush Limbaugh, they’re about to find out their audience has changed. They’ve lost traction.
The Seattle protests broke the WTO when the weaker states – those with no stake in the global power grab – were able to see that the Government/corporate “leaders” were despised and powerless.
The GOP have been exposed – literally – as a bunch of ruthless, thieving murderous perverts.
BushCo’s last orgy of rage and destruction – war on Iran – awaits us. If the war starts, the US ground forces in Iran are trapped – airlift out the whole force, or fight through hostile Shias in the south.
The General Staff knows this (don’t ask me, ask Sy Hersh). When the US military’s generals oppose the pResident’s plan for the next war and the pResident wrecked the national guard, options for suppressing popular dissent narrow.
The forest and ecoprotection movement in the US first took root among sportsmen and outdoorsmen (gender intended). One of the founders of EarthFirst! was a registered Republican. The values of caring for home and place and community are not unique to tree-sitters or reservists, yet the goopers’ grip on power has depended on dividing “right” and “left” while power loots the commons.
Now the Grand Old Perverts have united the majority of the nation in perceiving them as a bunch of incompetent, sweaty, saggy old child molesters and cat torturers.
And – surprise – the citizen-soldiers in the Guard and Reserves have good reason to despise BushCo.
So when my pessimist friends wail that even mass protests would be defeated by military might, the question is Bush and who’s army?
Having just sacrificed the armed forces on the civil war arising from one GOP delusion, I don’t think the military sub-chiefs will allow destruction of their institutions though domestic civil war.
The techniques of mass non-violent assembly are widely known throughout North America, and there are literally thousands of experienced volunteers with funcional “cross-training” in establishing food/communications/media/medical capacities with minimal funds and equipment. We can establish a convergence space or just use sympathetic church and union halls and train thousands more over the course of a weekend. And there are now enough people around the continent to allow such work to go on simultaneously in hundreds of communities (not to mention campuses) over a matter of days. The folks I’m thinking of eschew firearms, and win a lot of the time.
The context for electoral theft has changed – even if the initial theft succeeds, I believe Rove/Bush/Cheney can no longer rely on the military power required to suppress popular dissent in a heavily armed and highly disaffected nation.
And if they try – well, the greatest fear of the oligarchs’ controlling the GOP and corporate media is the union of progressives and the poor. The rethugs have worked for decades with great success to divide rural white people from progressive values for precisely this reason.
Theft of the ‘06 election with the current electorate will bring both groups together again. And miltary experience is far more common among rural white males than among urban progressives.
Karl, if you’d spent more time fishing in the woods, you might not have made so many mistakes.
The one strategy that could help Karl and George and Dick save their sorry corpulent asses is the strategy guaranteed to destroy the goopers.
I expect them to go for it – with an attempt at direct or proxy (Israeli) war on Iran as the “unifying threat” McGuffin to make dissent “unpatriotic”.
And – unlike two years ago – I expect them to lose.
I expect we’ll win.
And part of winning will be setting up the logisitics for direct response to electoral fraud as per
UptownNYChick @ 120
While we are focusing on GOTV, I do hope that – city by city – interested activists are discussing real-time public response to electoral irregularities. Such a response would have to have an afferent loop (receiving iformation from voters/poll watchers) and an efferent loop (communicating out real-time via text mob). I’m guessing fdl may not be the place to coordinate such discussion city-by-city. One existing option are the global indymedia sites – at least a starting place for the afferent and efferent components to meet.
Hmmm – if any web mavens among fdl’s commenters are interested, I wonder if it would be possible to create a website to hook-up poll-watching types and local public acitivist types in close districts…
I turned 65 last Wednesday.
The article cited in Reuters misses a major point. We Remember, goddammit!
We remember the last time we got pulled into an immoral war by lies. We remember how it tore this country apart. This one portends to be even dirtier the longer it goes on. Some older than I remember the good war: WWII, (an oxymoron, I admit) and how the aftermath was a harbinger that brought wealth and stability and societal change to this country.
We’ll lose this one. We lost in Vietnam, too. And those of us who remember know it.
He is a very Senatorial figure. [Obamaesque]
Goddess speed Mr. Ford! I believe he can put a cork in it. *g*
UptownNYChick @ 201
These two races are why I gave only a 5 for the Dems in the Senate when we were predicting the other day.
rwcole @ 203
Saturdays and Sundays are for pounding the pavement and knocking on doors. Check with your candidate’s campaign to volunteer.
punaise @ 126
Pasty, Slimy and Plump sans the glasses blind Rove requires.
Hugh — I also saw (on CNN??) Peter Galbraith (son of the great economist) interviewed re Iraq, and he seemed to have a better grasp of what’s possible and what’s not than most I’ve heard. He and Brezinski sound rational; the rest are the same crowd that got us into this mess, and it’s astonishing that anyone still asks for their opinions.
Brezinski’s co-panelist was someone from Council of Foreign Relations. When he was asked whether Bush was reaching out for alternative views, he said yes: his examples were Kissinger and Baker from the Iraq Study Group!!! Brezinski gave a rhetorical reply equivalent to “you gotta be kidding me!” — and then politely suggested that the circle of advisers should probably be expanded a touch.
I think that the race in Tennessee is probably the most interesting one going. No one gave Ford much of a chance at the beginning- he’s black- running in a statewide race in the south- and his family has had some recent political embarassments. That he’s right in there with a dead heat is pretty incredible.
I watched part of one of the debates- and Ford’s GOOD. He’s aiming most of his patter at the religious right- and apparently they’re hearin him.
It’s goin to be VERY interesting.
Kirk Murphy,
I am actually at a loss as to why candidates aren’t using something like txt mob to GOTV and coordinating Election day poll watching.
new curtains in the upstairs apartment
(new thread)
rwcole @ 221
This is fascinating (and critical). Here’s the Black guy speaking about how Jesus changed his life to the White Folks in Tennessee, while touting that he voted for the war. The cognative dissonance level in that state must be near record levels.
Scarecrow– Very well put- heads are gonna explode!
UptownNYChick @ 222
Me too – and yet I have friends who kid me for being a late skype adopter. The truth – I recognize the word, but don’t really trust I know what it means.
Could fdl help quickly educate the relevant staffers in close Act Blue races about txt mob tools?
The “technology” is so simple – it worked flawlessly for thousands in NYC for the 2004 RNC protests – can we here devise a quick and easy template to share this skill with our allies?
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..#more-5172
New thread.
There’s nothing at all new about blacks using religion for political purposes- it’s the rule rather than the exception- and they’re damned good at it- better than whites by miles. The language, tone, and mannerisms predate rock and roll- that had a similar history.
Could be some interesting alliance building way off in the future.
Rayne @ 124
If anyone meets the definition of war criminal, it’s gotta be Rove. We should keep a record of each and every person who dies or is maimed between now/the Rove pronouncement and election day. Their souls are on Rove.
Oh, and Rush, too, because he’d say we’re using ‘em. And Bush, because he callously, recklessly….oh, hell. All the souls of the dead are on him and Chee-knee already.
May they rot in pustulent slime for all eternity.
kirk murphy @ 227
The extent of my knowledge of txt mob is exactly that. I used it during the 2004 RNC protests and the 2004 Election Day in Penn.
I have an account on txt mob and would be happy to set up a group. It’s so easy.
UptownNYChick @ 202
That’s certainly true, but the reason the GOP has been steadily losing ground here is that the population growth is almost all in areas that don’t appreciate those views. The race will be decided on that demographic shift plus the usual incumbent familiarity/seniority bonus, IMHO.
Gov. Warner and Gov. Kaine are campaigning locally with Webb this weekend, and Michael J. Fox is doing a fundraiser a week from today, both of which will do good things, I hope!
Redshift @ 232
I really hope so. I have been giving to Webb, even though he’s a little right of my views.
UptownNYChick @ 230
Maybe a quick fdl comment (or post) about what text mob does and how to use it would help fdl commenters learn about this tool and share that power with local GOTV/campaign staffers.
I agree with those who say that dems can never be a majority in this country if they are forced to cede the whole south to goopers. They need to take a few of the obvious states and hold em and at least be a factor in the others.
Virginia, Tennesseee, North Carolina, Louisiana, and Arkansas are good places to start- and of course Florida- if that’s the south.
The dems can figure out how to run and win in the south- the problem is that many of their biggest supporters are going to have big trouble with the candidates who will win there.
Kirk
Ok, here is goes:
During the 2004 RNC convention, groups protesting the RNC used txt mob to communicate instantaneously. It uses text messaging to broadcast updates to cell phones. During the protests it alerted us to places we could protest, on-coming police round-ups, etc. It could easily be used to help coordinate GOTV and poll watching.
here is the web site.
UptownNYChick @
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UptownNYC -
Love it! (Just saw it.) I’ll share it when GOTV/poll discussions happen here on fdl – I hope people pick up on your cue.
#7: It seems that our representatives in DC were bamboozled by the bad intelligence. Why, I don’t know. I mean, we were in the streets. I knew those photos Colin Powell took to the UN were BS. I have no special insight beyond that I knew W was the WORST President ever, a liar, and a bully.
Exactly. It was clear as day what was going on from the very first.
I’m sure some of Steed’s umbrella-fighting tricks could be easily adapted for the cane
You don’t need tricks if you have the right cane.
Realist (240), I’d kill myself for sure with that cane.
TritoneSubstitution @ 20
forget the drinking
go to your local ROV Office (Registrar Of Voters) and observe the process, to make sure there ain’t no foul play
voters have the right to observe the audits and logic and accuracy process
I recommend that we do so
clif @
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Every generation discovers this. However, it is not an absolute; in any society. It’s all a matter of degrees.
Still it is worse than it ever was, even the robber-baron days. Why? Technology. Technology’s side benefit is often efficiency; where one can do the work it used to take many. That applies to methods of control, too! A few can more easily control the world than ever before!! Voting, stealing elections used to be only a local thing with big party machine politics, and even then, it was less stealing than GOTV efforts (e.g. Chicago). Now, it’s quite feasible to steal an election at the national level, consistently.
Very, very dangerous times. However, with proper resistance, and no doubt blood, the opportunities for a much better society are also present.
In some ways, I am very glad for Bush and these criminal Repuglicans and timid Democrats and fascist corporations. They are forcing us all to re-examine ourselves and dream a better world, hopefully. Before them, we were, as a society, fat, drunk and getting even stupider in the garden of greed. Now we are biting the apple, and the real changes can begin.
Very interesting times, our actions will decide if it’s a curse, or a blessing.