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		<title>By: notimetowaste</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/when-the-msm-meets-the-mighty-wurlitzer/#comment-352817</link>
		<dc:creator>notimetowaste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, you’re spot on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, you’re spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: my global conscious</title>
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		<dc:creator>my global conscious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what blows my mind (and call e duped, if you like) is that we have forgotten how to treat each other like HUMAN BEINGS!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i understand the politics, partisanship, however we want to label the exchanges that we have seen over the years…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yet it saddens me to see that no one, plainly, has said that no human should be treated/opined/commented in the light that Michael has.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;where is the BASIC humanity?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it is not a dem thing, nor a repug thing… it is a human thing, and shame should befallen upon us for not recognizing the most basic element– that humans, regardless of race, life form, gender (whatever) should not treat each other this way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now i realize that we dems are more likely to call the above argument… yet the thing is, we should not argue with the *other side* with their sordid points.  just use the *humanity clause*– something that we are all required to uphold and obige…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yes, rant-ish, yet fed up here.  if we started focusing on branding the repugs as those who are against humanity in all facets (by calling them out on their ugliness by tying it to the lack of humanity)… where do you think we would be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;possibly nowhere.. there are too many out there that do not care, so then the argument is: how do we make them care?  what value do we need to leverage, one that they hold dear, in order to draw a comparison that will wake them up?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ok, off to bed for this northern european soldier of truth…  :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what blows my mind (and call e duped, if you like) is that we have forgotten how to treat each other like HUMAN BEINGS!  </p>
<p>i understand the politics, partisanship, however we want to label the exchanges that we have seen over the years…</p>
<p>yet it saddens me to see that no one, plainly, has said that no human should be treated/opined/commented in the light that Michael has.</p>
<p>where is the BASIC humanity?</p>
<p>it is not a dem thing, nor a repug thing… it is a human thing, and shame should befallen upon us for not recognizing the most basic element– that humans, regardless of race, life form, gender (whatever) should not treat each other this way.</p>
<p>now i realize that we dems are more likely to call the above argument… yet the thing is, we should not argue with the *other side* with their sordid points.  just use the *humanity clause*– something that we are all required to uphold and obige…</p>
<p>yes, rant-ish, yet fed up here.  if we started focusing on branding the repugs as those who are against humanity in all facets (by calling them out on their ugliness by tying it to the lack of humanity)… where do you think we would be?</p>
<p>possibly nowhere.. there are too many out there that do not care, so then the argument is: how do we make them care?  what value do we need to leverage, one that they hold dear, in order to draw a comparison that will wake them up?</p>
<p>ok, off to bed for this northern european soldier of truth…  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Links&#8230; &#171; 4&#38;20 blackbirds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links&#8230; &#171; 4&#38;20 blackbirds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Jane Hamsher: Rush’s hatchet job worked; traditional media now question Fox’ motives instead the content of the debate. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Jane Hamsher: Rush’s hatchet job worked; traditional media now question Fox’ motives instead the content of the debate. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Karl K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-350545&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;melior (in Austin) @&lt;br /&gt;
                182              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The cognitive dissonance for middle America …&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s why the Right needs people like Limbaugh and the rest of the Hate Radio and Faux News hit squad.  Aside from creating the fantasy world in which followers of the Right live, the Limbaughs must be ready to ridicule and marginalize all critics and truthtellers, forming what I call a &lt;b&gt;Cognitive Dissonance Firewall&lt;/b&gt;, allowing their followers to discount and ignore facts and experiences that might conflict with their  ideology and dogma. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your comment reminded me of my call-in to the Sam Seder Show Thursday morning…&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The critic or truthteller must be characterized as ridiculous or biased, in order to give the Right Wing minions a pass on critical thinking that might reveal contradictions to their ideology — providing a sort of cognitive dissonance firewall.  As another example of this, beyond what you’ve already mentioned, we’ve been subjected to 25 years of demonizing of news media as “the liberal media” — allowing Right Wingers to comfortably ignore anything they might hear on the news that conflicts with the fantasy world created for them.  And yet another example, pulled from this election cycle is “Nancy Pelosi”:  the Right must demonize Pelosi to prevent their followers from hearing what she’s actually saying, and learning that they agree with most of it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;George Lakoff or someone else, I’m sure, has a term for this.  But I like “cognitive dissonance firewall.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-350545"><em>melior (in Austin) @<br />
                182              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The cognitive dissonance for middle America …</p>
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<p>That’s why the Right needs people like Limbaugh and the rest of the Hate Radio and Faux News hit squad.  Aside from creating the fantasy world in which followers of the Right live, the Limbaughs must be ready to ridicule and marginalize all critics and truthtellers, forming what I call a <b>Cognitive Dissonance Firewall</b>, allowing their followers to discount and ignore facts and experiences that might conflict with their  ideology and dogma. </p>
<p>Your comment reminded me of my call-in to the Sam Seder Show Thursday morning…
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<blockquote><p>The critic or truthteller must be characterized as ridiculous or biased, in order to give the Right Wing minions a pass on critical thinking that might reveal contradictions to their ideology — providing a sort of cognitive dissonance firewall.  As another example of this, beyond what you’ve already mentioned, we’ve been subjected to 25 years of demonizing of news media as “the liberal media” — allowing Right Wingers to comfortably ignore anything they might hear on the news that conflicts with the fantasy world created for them.  And yet another example, pulled from this election cycle is “Nancy Pelosi”:  the Right must demonize Pelosi to prevent their followers from hearing what she’s actually saying, and learning that they agree with most of it. </p></blockquote>
<p>George Lakoff or someone else, I’m sure, has a term for this.  But I like “cognitive dissonance firewall.”</p>
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		<title>By: Karl K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leslie Stahl will go on 60 Minutes and tell Nancy Pelosi with a perfectly straight face that she’s the reason we have to restore civility, and the cycle will repeat itself all over again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh so true.  That thought has run through my head several times this week, after seeing and hearing the racist ads against Harold Ford and now this nonsense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re truly screwed in this country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Leslie Stahl will go on 60 Minutes and tell Nancy Pelosi with a perfectly straight face that she’s the reason we have to restore civility, and the cycle will repeat itself all over again.</p>
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<p>Oh so true.  That thought has run through my head several times this week, after seeing and hearing the racist ads against Harold Ford and now this nonsense.</p>
<p>We’re truly screwed in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: melior (in Austin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>melior (in Austin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The cognitive dissonance for middle America is compounded by the association of Alex Keaton, an earnest young Republican who appeared on the very same TeeVee set.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How can he really be a dirty hippie who is supposed to be attacked and mocked? That just twists their racial profiling training all out of whack.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cognitive dissonance for middle America is compounded by the association of Alex Keaton, an earnest young Republican who appeared on the very same TeeVee set.</p>
<p>How can he really be a dirty hippie who is supposed to be attacked and mocked? That just twists their racial profiling training all out of whack.</p>
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		<title>By: Persiflage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Persiflage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Limbaugh and the rest of the provocatariat exist solely to excoriate anybody who dares to speak out against the right.  Their job description can be summed up in two words : Be vile.  That’s it really, be nauseating, disgustingly vile.  It can’t be easy at first but after the consciencectomy and the compassion bypass, I guess it gets easier.  What a job: squash anyone who speaks freely then hide behind Freedom of Speech.  Anyone performing that sort of moral gymnastics on a regular basis runs the grave risk of disappearing up their own rectum.  In Rush’s case, it can’t happen soon enough.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limbaugh and the rest of the provocatariat exist solely to excoriate anybody who dares to speak out against the right.  Their job description can be summed up in two words : Be vile.  That’s it really, be nauseating, disgustingly vile.  It can’t be easy at first but after the consciencectomy and the compassion bypass, I guess it gets easier.  What a job: squash anyone who speaks freely then hide behind Freedom of Speech.  Anyone performing that sort of moral gymnastics on a regular basis runs the grave risk of disappearing up their own rectum.  In Rush’s case, it can’t happen soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Oilers, THEN Canadiens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oilers, THEN Canadiens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tug @ 23 said–&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“As a guy who never once took a snap as QB in organized football at any level, he had no grounds whatsoever to have questioned the intelligence of Donovan McNabb.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The sports media did the right thing and ran him out of town.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to take it one step further……Does this mean sportsfans and sportscasters care more about the state of the game than citizens and mainstream journos care about the state of the nation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, if so, does this explain, perhaps, why former Olbermann is the only game in town?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This idea of sports analyts is actually brilliant. They pretty much by necessity are constrained and habituated to objectivity, no matter if they are “type a” or “b” or whatever otherwise loud-mouthed cornball town or country hick. At least, the good ones are.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any of them have blogs, with comments?  ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Tug @ 23 said–</em></p>
<p>“As a guy who never once took a snap as QB in organized football at any level, he had no grounds whatsoever to have questioned the intelligence of Donovan McNabb.</p>
<p>The sports media did the right thing and ran him out of town.”</p>
<p>Good point.</p>
<p>And to take it one step further……Does this mean sportsfans and sportscasters care more about the state of the game than citizens and mainstream journos care about the state of the nation?</p>
<p>And, if so, does this explain, perhaps, why former Olbermann is the only game in town?
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<p>This idea of sports analyts is actually brilliant. They pretty much by necessity are constrained and habituated to objectivity, no matter if they are “type a” or “b” or whatever otherwise loud-mouthed cornball town or country hick. At least, the good ones are.</p>
<p>Any of them have blogs, with comments?  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;F-ing unbelievable. I am sure Rush&amp;Co are somehow tapping that age-old prejudice that the disabled and ill should stay home and not be heard from. Offically I think, we have now reached an age where the disabled and ill cannot afford to stay home and not be heard from. I hope MSM at least gets some of that message. Again, kudos to Michael J. Fox.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F-ing unbelievable. I am sure Rush&amp;Co are somehow tapping that age-old prejudice that the disabled and ill should stay home and not be heard from. Offically I think, we have now reached an age where the disabled and ill cannot afford to stay home and not be heard from. I hope MSM at least gets some of that message. Again, kudos to Michael J. Fox.</p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
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		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“MJF has tough decisions to make shortly… stem cell research may be too late for him… as it may also be too late for my spouse.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it a mistake to interpret the ad that Fox is pleading his own case. I take his coming forward as his taking the opportunity to move the debate forward so others in the future might not suffer his fate.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“MJF has tough decisions to make shortly… stem cell research may be too late for him… as it may also be too late for my spouse.”</p>
<p>I think it a mistake to interpret the ad that Fox is pleading his own case. I take his coming forward as his taking the opportunity to move the debate forward so others in the future might not suffer his fate.<br />
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