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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-350476</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way:  New America dork and TNR fave &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/opinion/26bergen.html&quot;&gt;Peter Bergen has an NYT column claiming that Osama wants us to pull out of Iraq.  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the CIA has got hold of top-secret Al-Qaeda letters proving that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/102106.html&quot;&gt;Osama wants and need us to stay in Iraq to a) unite Sunnis and Shiites against a common enemy (us), and b) inflame Muslims worldwide into going to Iraq and/or joining Al-Qaeda.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Write to the NYT to counter Bergen’s bull:  &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:letters@nytimes.com.&quot;&gt;letters@nytimes.com.&lt;/a&gt;   (And urge your local papers not to reprint that Op-Ed of his.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way:  New America dork and TNR fave <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/opinion/26bergen.html">Peter Bergen has an NYT column claiming that Osama wants us to pull out of Iraq.  </a></p>
<p>But the CIA has got hold of top-secret Al-Qaeda letters proving that <a href="http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/102106.html">Osama wants and need us to stay in Iraq to a) unite Sunnis and Shiites against a common enemy (us), and b) inflame Muslims worldwide into going to Iraq and/or joining Al-Qaeda.</a></p>
<p>Write to the NYT to counter Bergen’s bull:  <a href="mailto:letters@nytimes.com."></a><a href="mailto:letters@nytimes.com">letters@nytimes.com</a>.   (And urge your local papers not to reprint that Op-Ed of his.)</p>
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		<title>By: gems</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-350377</link>
		<dc:creator>gems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BUSH GONNA PULL US OUT OF IRAQ…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Wednesday, 25 October 2006&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In Response To: TELLING? BUSH SAYS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF STANDING IN CROSSFIRE O RIVAL FACTIONS (APHRODITE)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Bush on Iraq: “If We Can’t Win, I’ll Pull Us Out.”&lt;br /&gt;
    The president talks candidly to a group of conservative journalists.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    By Byron York&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Everybody knows George W. Bush is determined to win the war in Iraq. What came through in a meeting with conservative journalists in the Oval Office Wednesday afternoon, though, was the president’s frustration in not being able to find more meaningful ways to measure progress in the war, and in not being able to make the case more effectively to the American people that progress is, in fact, being made.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDg4M2NlZjdkMWY0M2EyMzUwZDE3OTc1YmQwYTgxNjY&quot;&gt;http://article.nationalreview......mQwYTgxNjY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUSH GONNA PULL US OUT OF IRAQ…</p>
<p> Wednesday, 25 October 2006</p>
<p>In Response To: TELLING? BUSH SAYS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF STANDING IN CROSSFIRE O RIVAL FACTIONS (APHRODITE)</p>
<p>    Bush on Iraq: “If We Can’t Win, I’ll Pull Us Out.”<br />
    The president talks candidly to a group of conservative journalists.</p>
<p>    By Byron York</p>
<p>    Everybody knows George W. Bush is determined to win the war in Iraq. What came through in a meeting with conservative journalists in the Oval Office Wednesday afternoon, though, was the president’s frustration in not being able to find more meaningful ways to measure progress in the war, and in not being able to make the case more effectively to the American people that progress is, in fact, being made.</p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDg4M2NlZjdkMWY0M2EyMzUwZDE3OTc1YmQwYTgxNjY">http://article.nationalreview&#8230;&#8230;mQwYTgxNjY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349397</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-349350&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LJ/Aquaria @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-349315&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bonnie @&lt;br /&gt;
                98              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Only a year? Pshaw! That’s nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Only a year seems like quite a bit when you move every other year. The wait in DC would have been closer to 3 years, one more than we lived there. Since 1994 we have moved every other year, crossing an ocean 4 times since 1999.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I certainly won’t argue with you though that military housing is downright shameful in places.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-349315"><em>Bonnie @<br />
                98              </em></a><br />
Only a year? Pshaw! That’s nothing.</p>
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<p>Only a year seems like quite a bit when you move every other year. The wait in DC would have been closer to 3 years, one more than we lived there. Since 1994 we have moved every other year, crossing an ocean 4 times since 1999.</p>
<p>I certainly won’t argue with you though that military housing is downright shameful in places.</p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349390</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or worse, they come home from a deployment in a financial bind, and find out their JOB suddenly went to India or China……………..or was just down sized.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or worse, they come home from a deployment in a financial bind, and find out their JOB suddenly went to India or China……………..or was just down sized.</p>
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		<title>By: fallenmonk</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349375</link>
		<dc:creator>fallenmonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I posted on this last week and it is tragic and shameful. An acqaintance that is retired Army said that this was common all over the country. California and the Northeast are the worse but you will see the same thing in Georgia, North Carolina and Texas. Especially hard hit are the National Guard folks who have mortgages and expenses that were incurred when they had a decent paying civilian job and now can’t leep it all together on the crap military pay.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted on this last week and it is tragic and shameful. An acqaintance that is retired Army said that this was common all over the country. California and the Northeast are the worse but you will see the same thing in Georgia, North Carolina and Texas. Especially hard hit are the National Guard folks who have mortgages and expenses that were incurred when they had a decent paying civilian job and now can’t leep it all together on the crap military pay.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ/Aquaria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349350</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ/Aquaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-349315&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bonnie @&lt;br /&gt;
                98              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LJ/Aquaria, I can only speak to my own experience as an Army wife. Availability of quarters has varied widely by location. Here at Ft. Knox and in Germany, we were able to walk right into quarters. Germany was our first time ever living on post in my husband’s then-17 years of service. At Ft. Bragg and in Hawaii and DC, the waiting list for officer quarters was well over a year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only a year? Pshaw! That’s nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was on the waiting list for 3 years before I was offered a place in the substandard housing unit. Substandard means just what it sounds like. The housing did not meet standards for military housing. It had lead pipes, lead paint, asbestos–stuff like that. Yeah, just the kind of place we all want to live, right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From discussions with other airmen across CONUS (and I had contact with many, in my AFSC), I was lucky to get a chance at housing that soon. And to have it that good! What base housing was available for the enlisted personnel at one base (that will remain nameless here) looked like it belonged on Tobacco Road. I know. I saw it, and was appalled.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not saying the housing problem happens at every base. But the exceptions pretty much prove the rule.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can nearly guarantee a few things about those families lined up at Pendleton:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) They’re the spouses of enlisted personnel, most likely E-4 or lower.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) These people are not living in base housing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the 80s, most of the E-4 and below married service members stationed in California had to live off-base. Most of them were on food stamps.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was an outrage that these people were serving their country, and they couldn’t afford to eat or have shelter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-349315"><em>Bonnie @<br />
                98              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LJ/Aquaria, I can only speak to my own experience as an Army wife. Availability of quarters has varied widely by location. Here at Ft. Knox and in Germany, we were able to walk right into quarters. Germany was our first time ever living on post in my husband’s then-17 years of service. At Ft. Bragg and in Hawaii and DC, the waiting list for officer quarters was well over a year.</p>
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<p>Only a year? Pshaw! That’s nothing.</p>
<p>I was on the waiting list for 3 years before I was offered a place in the substandard housing unit. Substandard means just what it sounds like. The housing did not meet standards for military housing. It had lead pipes, lead paint, asbestos–stuff like that. Yeah, just the kind of place we all want to live, right?</p>
<p>From discussions with other airmen across CONUS (and I had contact with many, in my AFSC), I was lucky to get a chance at housing that soon. And to have it that good! What base housing was available for the enlisted personnel at one base (that will remain nameless here) looked like it belonged on Tobacco Road. I know. I saw it, and was appalled.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the housing problem happens at every base. But the exceptions pretty much prove the rule.</p>
<p>I can nearly guarantee a few things about those families lined up at Pendleton:</p>
<p>1) They’re the spouses of enlisted personnel, most likely E-4 or lower.</p>
<p>2) These people are not living in base housing.</p>
<p>In the 80s, most of the E-4 and below married service members stationed in California had to live off-base. Most of them were on food stamps.</p>
<p>It was an outrage that these people were serving their country, and they couldn’t afford to eat or have shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: junior</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349348</link>
		<dc:creator>junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;During the press conference this morning, I’m so attentive of what (other or new) good words Pres. Bush will say when he answers.  Still the same rhetoric and promises that he puts on the ears of the listeners.  I’m tired and sick of all the mess created by this administration.  We certainly want a change of new leaders, strategies, ideas and focus more our internal problems before solving or helping other countries.  I’m sure that the democrats have other alternatives to solve the Iraq problem.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the press conference this morning, I’m so attentive of what (other or new) good words Pres. Bush will say when he answers.  Still the same rhetoric and promises that he puts on the ears of the listeners.  I’m tired and sick of all the mess created by this administration.  We certainly want a change of new leaders, strategies, ideas and focus more our internal problems before solving or helping other countries.  I’m sure that the democrats have other alternatives to solve the Iraq problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349331</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was sent there to command an EOD unit, and after Desert storm was medically discharged, and liked Kentucky enough to stay.  I still like the state after 16 years here, and plan on staying.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was sent there to command an EOD unit, and after Desert storm was medically discharged, and liked Kentucky enough to stay.  I still like the state after 16 years here, and plan on staying.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349328</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We’re practically neighbors! I have to admit, I was dragged to Knox pretty much kicking and screaming, but I really do like it here a lot. The kids are very happy in school, which counts for a lot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re practically neighbors! I have to admit, I was dragged to Knox pretty much kicking and screaming, but I really do like it here a lot. The kids are very happy in school, which counts for a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/25/iraq-accountability/#comment-349325</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I lived off base in Vine Grove, but housing was tighter back then with the 194th on base,  now I live about 50 miles south.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived off base in Vine Grove, but housing was tighter back then with the 194th on base,  now I live about 50 miles south.</p>
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