Whoa- Chris Mathews was just drumming up votes for Ned!
“If the war keeps going after November and you didn’t vote against it, you haven’t done all you could. You only get one vote so why wouldn’t you vote against the war?”
this in context of why aren’t some dems - working class dems who Mathews identifies as most hurt by the war - voting for Ned
Holy Crap! Chris Matthews just gave CT voters a what for. He said, if you’re against the war you’ve only got one vote, vote against it. He said it makes no sense to vote for Lieberman if you’re against the war. Emphatically.
Matthews also refers to Lieberman as “the biggest hawk on the planet”.
Yeah, it was great. He seemed exasperated with CT voters. He couldn’t understand why Lieberman would be doing so well considering Iraq is the number one issue.
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Just an aside - requiring user access to streaming be thru WMP. sux. (I won’t do it…even though this XP box has it installed. Real sux too, but this user wants that choice.
I just want to say that I don’t believe the polls about Joe. Bush is polling at about 35% Nationwide even with some Dem support and all the Gop votes I don’t think it adds up
hey jane, as a canadian i don’t think it would be appropriate to send money to political campaigns in your nation. as an artist and a freedom loving individual, it scares the crap out of me to think that the lunatics that have hijacked the great nation of america might cling to power. so i was thinking, i’m in the process of recording a new album, how about i send you mp3s of 5 songs that are close to completion and you can give those songs to anyone that plonks a fiver into the democratic kitty. let firedoglake funnel the money to the appropriate campaigns through the act blue network.
call it a gesture or a gift or whatever, my work is all under the creative commons. maybe i’m crazy, but given the scale of impact that america has on the world, i think it is in my best interests to contribute in a meaningful way if i can. let me know at the email address provided and i’ll rip some tracks and send them your way. cheers and best of luck to all of my american friends in reclaiming your great nation.
Lamont: “Stay the course” isn’t working. It’s not working. Mentions that Lieb. is calling his position “partisan”. “I believe we didn’t get into Iraq because we asked to many questions, but because we asked too few.”
Those of you who can’t get the video may be able to get the audio from this site courtesy of Ct Bob’s site: http://ctbob.blogspot.com/
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Watch the debate tonight. 8:00PM on WTNH-TV Channel 8 (also streamed here live at WTNH.COM). Also, WTIC NewsTalk 1080 and WTIC.com will carry the audio portion live.
Ned looks fabulous, his hair has a little curl on the forehead that is very attractive. He is coming on very strong and serious. Not bipartisan to go along with Bush’s failures in Iraq. Now we have 140,000 troops there in danger.
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Question for Lamont on health policy, Lieb hasn’t done anything for 18 yrs but Dodd there for 25.
Lamont: Dodd right on Iraq
As business person I can tell you health care system broken, bankrupting families and small business; bring down cost of health care by letting small business buy into plans.
Hurting jobs, hurting entrepreneurs, hurting growth. Need to send someone from outside the Washington cultue to shake things up.
hey jane, as a canadian i don’t think it would be appropriate to send money to political campaigns in your nation. as an artist and a freedom loving individual, it scares the crap out of me to think that the lunatics that have hijacked the great nation of america might cling to power. so i was thinking, i’m in the process of recording a new album, how about i send you mp3s of 5 songs that are close to completion and you can give those songs to anyone that plonks a fiver into the democratic kitty. let firedoglake funnel the money to the appropriate campaigns through the act blue network.
call it a gesture or a gift or whatever, my work is all under the creative commons. maybe i’m crazy, but given the scale of impact that america has on the world, i think it is in my best interests to contribute in a meaningful way if i can. let me know at the email address provided and i’ll rip some tracks and send them your way. cheers and best of luck to all of my american friends in reclaiming your great nation.
Nice offer! Hope Jane sees it. Legally you can’t contribute $$ anyway.
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A car ran into my house a couple weeks ago after being hit in the intersection. The woman driver went to the emergency room after the dust settled. I spoke to her today and her bill for a visit to the emergency room where she said she sat and waited for over two hours was FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS! For nothing! barely nothing!
Alan is talking about how expensive health care is. His eye surgery in the sixties was around 50 bucks or so.
He proposes health savings accounts. You can get it from employer or deduct it. Says that you will be careful in choosing your healthcare consumption if you have control.
Schlessinger: What we need are health savings accounts.
Cujo359: If you can’t afford medical insu*an*e, how can you afford to save for it beforehand? I’m not a Wharton grad, but I think the economics are pretty self-explanatory here.
Someone else will have to report Lieb because I JUST CAN’T BEAR TO HEAR HIS VOICE no matter how much I love my country. I’m sorry. I’m willing to travel alone to Russia repeatedly but I will NOT subject my tender self to that horror.
dabfromCT …Ned is a FINISHER….think positive…..he will get it done tonight…..300-400 supporters there before the debate must have jacked Ned up….
GO NED
Lieberman talking about supporting Kennedy Katzenbaum .. now talking about middle class family dropping health care to send kid to college. Medicare, medichoice, medical malpratise reform … Joe saying he’s doing stuff
Unlike Net Lamont’s proposal mine does not have mandate on small businesses forcing them to cover everyone
we’ve had enough of partisan polarization and I’m the one to get it done
With the notoriety and recognition Schlesinger is getting, he’s starting to get the virus Obama’s caught. As I’ve said on another thread using an old expression my father used, he’s just had too much smoke blown up his ass. He’s starting to believe the b.s. and like 50 men and women in the Senate, already planning his Presidential campaign in his head.
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cujo’s link worked for me - i was also stuck in mac hell.
cujo - thank you, thank you, thank you!
You’re welcome. I wish these websites would just get a clue, and in addition to their broken Javascript popups they also published the URLs in a readable form.
Shels, “Are we involved in a war between good and evil”? Schels started talking about immigration. GS stops him and asks that the question be restated. Schles keeps going.
Allen is answering a question on terrorism with his anti-immigrant policies. He might just be crazy enough to ciphon Republican votes.
Woops - now Joe is doing the Bush Islamofascist rap.
Joe wants to give them amnesty, Ned wants to give them scholarships, I want to give them the boot - Schles.
I don’t see immigration as a hot CT issue and the question was on terrorism
Actually, it is a huge issue. The mayor of Danbury has everyone stirred up about the illegal immigrants from South America. There have been KKK-like marches in Danbury - it’s obscene.
Joe goes into Bush style 9/11 islamoterrorists who hate us and want to kill us … we need to stop them
not alright to give up and pull out of iraq - if we can succeed in Iraq and success means an independent government … hearts and minds of the muslim world
Go Ned,
thanks Jane
Hell yeah! Go away Joe!
Whoa- Chris Mathews was just drumming up votes for Ned!
“If the war keeps going after November and you didn’t vote against it, you haven’t done all you could. You only get one vote so why wouldn’t you vote against the war?”
this in context of why aren’t some dems - working class dems who Mathews identifies as most hurt by the war - voting for Ned
Holy Crap! Chris Matthews just gave CT voters a what for. He said, if you’re against the war you’ve only got one vote, vote against it. He said it makes no sense to vote for Lieberman if you’re against the war. Emphatically.
My heart is in my throat and I just can’t watch - can’t stand to hear Joe’s whiny voice.
So I hope those who are watching won’t mind describing the action.
Matthews also refers to Lieberman as “the biggest hawk on the planet”.
Nice first debate report up from Connecticut Bob!
http://ctbob.blogspot.com/
Here I am in New London, CT across the street from the debate. Just talked with the guy in the Kiss Float. Wasn’t able to get into the debate. Damn.
In just 340 hours, 2 minutes from NOW - It will be 12:01 AM Election Day -
this takes ONE HOUR, doesn’t cost ya anything with unlimited evening minutes
and Rove is counting on you NOT doing it
http://pol.moveon.org/phone/volunteer/c4c.html
tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock
Freedom Fever . . . Catch It !
Oklahoma kiddo @ 6
Yeah, it was great. He seemed exasperated with CT voters. He couldn’t understand why Lieberman would be doing so well considering Iraq is the number one issue.
Lord knows, as a nutmegger, I feel the same way.
Siun @ 3
He’s got that nailed.
He’s describing the blue collar Reagan Dems who most likely watch Fox News and therefore think Lamont is best friends with OBL
Wake up sheeple!
And they’re off. . .
The WTNH live feed URL is:
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dab from CT @ 11
wow! did he really call out FoxNews? I think that’s a breach of etiquette in the Club…
I hope torture and the Supreme Court come up this time.
Just an aside - requiring user access to streaming be thru WMP. sux. (I won’t do it…even though this XP box has it installed. Real sux too, but this user wants that choice.
Here comes the debate over-the-air WTIC/1080.
Let the best man win!
How cool is this. Watch the debate and see the comments of all the FDL’ers at the same time.
I’m in mac hell at the moment.
It is cool. But I’m a bit bummed. Way too late to actually get into the debate. I’m across the street. So close and yet so far.
Jane Hamsher @ 17
I thought Quicktime could handle these streams?
Lieberman is asking the other candidates to refrain from kissing him. Seriously.
Cujo359 @ 19
Windows Media Player has a macintosh version.
OT, how do you close a mailto tag?
I just want to say that I don’t believe the polls about Joe. Bush is polling at about 35% Nationwide even with some Dem support and all the Gop votes I don’t think it adds up
Boy is LIEBERMAN NOT ANSWERING the Iraq question! Just off and running on bipartisanship.
I’m in.
xyz - how does Ned look? Cool & confident or all keyed up & tense.
You know he knows everything is riding on this.
Lieberman has been blabbing for four minutes or so now, so I haven’t gotten a look at Lamont.
Hope the Mods keep Joe on the clock!
Oh c’mon, Joe has to be SOOO over his time limit having wasted all that time on the non-opening opening statement answer to Iraq.
What a putz! Lieberman is blowing his load right from the beginning, like he did in the first debate. He’s digging his own hole. What a hole.
Every time he says ‘bipartisanship’ I want to scream It wasn’t bipartisan, it was Lieberman giving Bush whatever he wanted.
First question is apparently about Iraq. It took Joe more than a minute to get on point.
Lieb. says that he offered a ten point plan for success in Iraq
* Change SecDef
* Train Iraqi security forces
* We cannot fail - Lamont favors a “politically driven” policy of “retreat”. Pull together across party lines, blah, blah.
He really is the ultimate concern troll, but he has the schtick down to a well honed art.
He’s an uncommonly accomplished liar.
Is Joe packing a few extra pounds, or is his suit coat stuffed with bundles of cash?
Are they going to turn off his mike?
Remember the rule about Lieberman. The more the voters see him, the less they like him. So this opening statement by Lieberman might be a good thing.
Go Ned. He started real well!
Thank God for Ned. I fell asleep from Droopy Dog’s droning.
Ned is always clear and concise and strong.
I love you, Ned.
hey jane, as a canadian i don’t think it would be appropriate to send money to political campaigns in your nation. as an artist and a freedom loving individual, it scares the crap out of me to think that the lunatics that have hijacked the great nation of america might cling to power. so i was thinking, i’m in the process of recording a new album, how about i send you mp3s of 5 songs that are close to completion and you can give those songs to anyone that plonks a fiver into the democratic kitty. let firedoglake funnel the money to the appropriate campaigns through the act blue network.
call it a gesture or a gift or whatever, my work is all under the creative commons. maybe i’m crazy, but given the scale of impact that america has on the world, i think it is in my best interests to contribute in a meaningful way if i can. let me know at the email address provided and i’ll rip some tracks and send them your way. cheers and best of luck to all of my american friends in reclaiming your great nation.
punaise @ 34
Maybe he just has really small hands.
Pachacutec - I wonder how long it will take for Joe to bring up regime change in Iran this evening.
Ned sounds good!!!
Ned coming out pretty aggressively in his opening remarks
Lamont: “Stay the course” isn’t working. It’s not working. Mentions that Lieb. is calling his position “partisan”. “I believe we didn’t get into Iraq because we asked to many questions, but because we asked too few.”
Hah - Schlesinger standing in between Joe and the camera.
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Anybody know where the Lamont rally is?
Ned was very good. Very forceful with a tinge of anger. Perfect tone
Pachacutec @ 45
Joe is the chip on Alan’s shoulder
Alan is very good, uses his body well, owns the space on the stage.
I hope Ned’s speaking from his heart. I want people to see the Ned those of us who have met him see.
Joe’s grinding his teeth.
holy shit, my 10 year old son just asked me what a virgin was! & he saw it on a movie on Disney channel!
Thanks for the live blog!
Schliesinger is doing his comedy routine
Schlessinger: Partisanship isn’t the problem. Corruption of Maliki government may be the problem.
dab from CT @ 51
He is.
Ned looks fabulous, his hair has a little curl on the forehead that is very attractive. He is coming on very strong and serious. Not bipartisan to go along with Bush’s failures in Iraq. Now we have 140,000 troops there in danger.
xyz at 36:
What’s to like? Repellent little man.
Ned’s got the fire in the belly
strong on health care
Cujo359 @ 13
Thanks Cujo!
thanks egregious - you do a great job live blogging
solai @
31
Not so much bipartisanship as date rape.
Lamont is doing the job in the debate. It’s obvious where this jerk questioner, Mark, I think his name is, is coming from.
Question for Lamont on health policy, Lieb hasn’t done anything for 18 yrs but Dodd there for 25.
Lamont: Dodd right on Iraq
As business person I can tell you health care system broken, bankrupting families and small business; bring down cost of health care by letting small business buy into plans.
Hurting jobs, hurting entrepreneurs, hurting growth. Need to send someone from outside the Washington cultue to shake things up.
I hope I’m not the only liveblogger here…
Lamont is speaking more slowly and forcefully than I have ever seen him speak before. It is resonating with the crowd.
The more I look at Schlesinger the more I dont like him. But he is still much much better than Lieberman.
I am having an anxiety attack - the thought of Lieberman being voted in for a fourth term is more than I can handle
Ned MUST win
lazlo pink @ 39
Nice offer! Hope Jane sees it. Legally you can’t contribute $$ anyway.
Everyone’s a bit distracted/ focussed right now!!
Cujo359 @
13
Jane Hamsher @
17
cujo’s link worked for me - i was also stuck in mac hell.
cujo - thank you, thank you, thank you!
Sch, must identify the costs of health care. Not silver bullet but step in right direction. Wants catastrophic insurance and health savings accounts.
A car ran into my house a couple weeks ago after being hit in the intersection. The woman driver went to the emergency room after the dust settled. I spoke to her today and her bill for a visit to the emergency room where she said she sat and waited for over two hours was FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS! For nothing! barely nothing!
Lieberman is ‘Charlie McCarthy’. Bush is ‘Edgar Bergen’.
xyz - I saw him on Saturday and he was calm, upbeat and determined.
He knows this is for all the marbles
I believe it’s 2006, not 1964.
Breathe Dab CT, breathe..
Alan is talking about how expensive health care is. His eye surgery in the sixties was around 50 bucks or so.
He proposes health savings accounts. You can get it from employer or deduct it. Says that you will be careful in choosing your healthcare consumption if you have control.
Schlessinger: What we need are health savings accounts.
Cujo359: If you can’t afford medical insu*an*e, how can you afford to save for it beforehand? I’m not a Wharton grad, but I think the economics are pretty self-explanatory here.
Someone else will have to report Lieb because I JUST CAN’T BEAR TO HEAR HIS VOICE no matter how much I love my country. I’m sorry. I’m willing to travel alone to Russia repeatedly but I will NOT subject my tender self to that horror.
Has Schlesinger lost his frickin’ mind about healthcare??? People don’t care about the cost??? What planet is he from?
guess I’ve been live blogging on the wrong page!
I don’t type fast enough to do effective, substantial live-blogging.
I’d say Schles is at least coming across “credible’ to like-thinking repubs.
Sch 26 trillion, bill is coming, baby boom people start using system, whole health system collapses.
Your senator is not telling you the truth here.
Lazlo Pink - drop me an email and I’ll see what we can do - media dot firedoglake at gmail dot com
Thanks for the cool offer!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 74
LOL - I’m trying…
Joe’s ignoring Alan and whining about Ned.
Geez, what were the odds?
Lieberman lies again and again.
Oh crap. Don’t write the word “insu*an*e”! You’ll rot in moderation hell!
Lieberman is talking. I can’t transcribe. Needless to say it is all wind and lies.
Christ, somebody get the hook.
Schlesinger is giving the insurance companies a free pass. It sounds credible, but it’s the right wing spin.
Joe is like chalk on a blackboard.
Oh jesus, medikids, medichoice.
dabfromCT …Ned is a FINISHER….think positive…..he will get it done tonight…..300-400 supporters there before the debate must have jacked Ned up….
GO NED
Lieberman is a compulsive liar.
dab- and if you can’t breathe, at least try to inhale and exhale in alternation.. ;)
Dang, I used the i* word.
Joe almost choked saying “partisan polarization”
Lieberman talking about supporting Kennedy Katzenbaum .. now talking about middle class family dropping health care to send kid to college. Medicare, medichoice, medical malpratise reform … Joe saying he’s doing stuff
Unlike Net Lamont’s proposal mine does not have mandate on small businesses forcing them to cover everyone
we’ve had enough of partisan polarization and I’m the one to get it done
that was Lieberman … next question to Scheslinger
And Schlessinger is a weasel.
I think Lieberman said bipartisan 30 times in his latest response.
Pssst. Spell it *nsurance or it gets stuck in the filter.
punaise @ 94
707!
Question iraq admin talking in abstract terms good/evil. Is this right or more specific.
Sch start w illegal immigation.
punaise @ 93
I don’t want to hear about Joe’s pp.
*xyz @ 97
Yeah, well, ain’t that what he are?
somebody asked for restatement of question…who?
With the notoriety and recognition Schlesinger is getting, he’s starting to get the virus Obama’s caught. As I’ve said on another thread using an old expression my father used, he’s just had too much smoke blown up his ass. He’s starting to believe the b.s. and like 50 men and women in the Senate, already planning his Presidential campaign in his head.
selise @ 69
You’re welcome. I wish these websites would just get a clue, and in addition to their broken Javascript popups they also published the URLs in a readable form.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 98
——————————————-We should be so LUCKY….LMAO!
sch immigration is spearhead of terrorism
ooh, Alan smack-down from Stepontopofthis: “can you please just answer the question?”
OOOOHH…. somebody’s undocumented pool cleaner is now a TERRARIST… Well, according to Alan…
Sch says main threat is from mexico.
Shels, “Are we involved in a war between good and evil”? Schels started talking about immigration. GS stops him and asks that the question be restated. Schles keeps going.
This also-ran is an embarrassment.
Schlesinger sounds like he’s running in Arizona with this threat from Mexico nonsense.
Cujo thank you!
Schlessinger thinks the main terrorism threat is coming from Mexico. How many nukes does Mexico have?
I am concluding that Schlesinger is an idiot. Sorry.
Joe wants to give them amnesty, Ned wants to give them scholarships, I want to give them the boot - Schles.
I don’t see immigration as a hot CT issue and the question was on terrorism
Joe unleashing his inner neocon.
Schlesinger is sending immigration dog-whistle messages to the conservative/racist base.
Allen is answering a question on terrorism with his anti-immigrant policies. He might just be crazy enough to ciphon Republican votes.
Woops - now Joe is doing the Bush Islamofascist rap.
Don’t applaud Stephanopolous…he might be there representing the DLC….He is one of their trolls! Let Schlesinger actup who cares!
Joe whiiiiiinnnnneeeeee. Oh yeah, hearts and minds. Watch that movie Joe!
*xyz @ 88
Please try, just give a summary or the occasional bon mot. I can’t do Lieb it makes me ill.
Joe wants to win hearts and minds… I’m old enough to remember the ‘Nam… Winning Hearts And Minds…. comes out to WHAM… Thanks, Joe, for the new idea.
Joe still selling democracy in Iraq. He’s really sucking the pipe.
Lieberman is repeating Bush language. Ned has a chance to attack him now.
Holy Joe wants to reach out to Muslims.
With TORTURE, Joe? You’ll catch their hearts and minds with TORTURE?
Come on Ned, drill his ass
Siun @ 119
Actually, it is a huge issue. The mayor of Danbury has everyone stirred up about the illegal immigrants from South America. There have been KKK-like marches in Danbury - it’s obscene.
Joe just implied that iran is an Arab country.
Joe goes into Bush style 9/11 islamoterrorists who hate us and want to kill us … we need to stop them
not alright to give up and pull out of iraq - if we can succeed in Iraq and success means an independent government … hearts and minds of the muslim world
What in the hell is Joe talking about? “An alternate bridge to the muslim world” — jeepers, has he been hanging out too much with Ted Stevens.