How you doin’, Christy?

Go Ned!

That image never gets old!

Bob at 3 — I could not agree more. *g*

Raw has up that Lamont is protesting the LIEbermini circa 400K unaccounted for slush money. Terrific piece, and strongly written.

“Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States.”

–Joe Lieberman

EPU’d-What blows me away is the stark contrast between Joey’s and Ned campaign re: petty cash. Ned used $500, Joey used $387K Are you kidding me? ANSWER THE QUESTION JOEY!

Re: Slush fund for C.R.E.E.L. (Committee to Reelect Lieberman) – I should have info on the presser Tom Swan and George Jepsen are holding right now on the steps of the Capitol within an hour or so.

I know that Lieberman made a statement about how well things were going in Iraq after one of his visits. The statement led Michael Ware, one the best reporters covering the war, to suggest that Lieberman didn’t have a clue as to what he was talking about.
I guess since he was such a rabid advocate for the war he has to rationalize the terrible things that are happening in that godforsaken country.

Maybe the 387 large was needed for Dangerstein’s body waxing?

“[W]e have evidence of meetings between Iraqi officials and leaders of al Qaeda, and testimony that Iraqi agents helped train al Qaeda operatives to use chemical and biological weapons. We also know that al Qaeda leaders have been, and are now, harbored in Iraq.

Having reached the conclusion I have about the clear and present danger Saddam represents to the U.S., I want to give the president a limited but strong mandate to act against Saddam.”

–Joe Lieberman (SOB-CN), in “Why Democrats Should Support the President on Iraq”, October 7, 2002

“never been a stay the course strategy” is kinda the high water mark imo. it’s all downhill from that doozy…

“MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”

I’d rather make s*it up. it’s more fun. :~)

let’s not forget to FITZ!

“The last two weeks have been critically important and I believe may be seen as a turning point in the war in Iraq and the war on terrorism,” Lieberman told reporters after he and a bipartisan group of senators met with Bush and top administration officials on the war.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..iraq_x.htm

you know it used to be that my lottery fantasies revolved around nice things and travel to exotic lands (and ok, maybe a scholarship fund or two). now i dream of having millions so that i could fund one of those groups that produces political adds. i’d have my little elves ready at a moments notice any time one of these idiots tried to pull a fast one and slam them hard. never supported privatizing social security? sorry joe, gotcha. never been “stay the course”, sorry chimpy, eat your own words. it is soooo past time to pull back the curtain on these jokers.

see what you have done to me fdl.

I could SWEAR before the war, during the run up, the president said;

“this is not about regime change, it’s about weapons of mass destruction”

did that happen or is it a figment of my imagination?

if my memory is correct, we HAVE to find that clip and play it and play it and play it again

Well, I like how there is much projection in what Bush says. It comes apparent most often when he talks about the intentions of Al Qaeda and Bin Laden.

Imagine this was a referrence about how Rove uses evangelicals instead of Bin Laden using dissaffected Muslim youths.

“The radicals exploit local conflicts to build a culture of victimization, exploit resentful and disillusioned young men and women, and use modern technology to multiply their destructive power.

-G Dubster

Of course this Condi Rice/George Orwell quote is a beauty too:

“You’re concerned about war, and no one likes war,” she said. But, she said, “to preserve the peace sometimes my country believes war is necessary.”

-Condi Rice

Was there anything even slightly correct or honest about this famous howler?

“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
–George W. Bush, “State of the Union”, 1/28/2003

CRETIN-Committe to Re-elect the Insidious Nitwit

Be sure to include links with your quotes, gang!

“Mission Accomplished”

except he never actually said it, did he?

“It’s in the interest of — uhh — uhh, long-term peace in the world that we — uhh — work for a free and secure and peaceful Iraq. A peeance, freeance secure Iraq in the midst of the Middle East will have enormous historical impact.“
– George Duhh-bya Bush – Oct. 27, 2003

audio

“The difference in this town — here in Washington — on the war is not between Democrats and Republicans; it’s between people who believe essentially we’ve already lost in Iraq and it’s time to get out — and most of the rest of us who believe not only have we not lost, but we’re winning.” – Joe Lieberman

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..iraq_x.htm

Along with the new highs for the DOW Jones, G.W. Has just capped the 2,800 mark for US deaths in Iraq.

-GSD

punaise @ 23

“Mission Accomplished”

except he never actually said it, did he?

no, i believe i just heard this somewhere recently that the phrase was in his speech, but they took the words out. unfortunately they left the banner up in the background.

“I’m trying to absorb that knowledge. I have nobody to talk to. I’m sitting in the midst of a classroom with little kids, listening to a children’s story… and I realize I’m the commander in chief and the country has just come under attack.”

Newsweek, Dec. 3, 2001

“We know that dictators are quick to choose aggression, while free nations strive to resolve differences in peace.”

Link

Link to source UN speech

Rumor is that Bill Clinton had the Navy put that “Mission Accomplished” banner up to embarrass Bush.

Damn Bill Clinton.

-GSD

This doesn’t meet your criteria, but it’s an article I found on the way to researching the bestest Bush/Lieberman lies… and what I found leads me to believe that Donald Rumsfeld may leave them both in the dust: from Amercian Forces Information Services, Sept 2002:

Rumsfeld detailed the threat Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program poses to the world. “As we meet, chemists, biologists and nuclear scientists are toiling in weapons labs and underground bunkers, working to give the world’s most dangerous dictators weapons of unprecedented power and lethality,” he said. He told committee members that the power of weapons available to dictators like Hussein and the connections between rogue states like Iraq and terrorist networks make for an extremely dangerous situation.

A miscalculation against a foe with chemical, biological or nuclear weapons could mean casualties in the tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands. Rumsfeld cited a Johns Hopkins University study that imagines the introduction of smallpox into three U.S. states.

“Within two months, the study concluded as many as 1 million people would be dead and 2 million infected,” he said. Even if halved or quartered these statistics would be too much to bear, he said.

…

“Let there be no doubt we can do both (the global war on terrorism and regime change in Iraq) at the same time,” Rumsfeld said.

And in conclusion, Rumsfeld said: “Boo!”

EvilDrPuma @ 20

Was there anything even slightly correct or honest about this famous howler?

“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
–George W. Bush, “State of the Union”, 1/28/2003

16 words.

BUSH: “I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is — my point is, there’s a strong will for democracy. “

CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer, 9/24/06

GSD @ 30

Rumor is that Bill Clinton had the Navy put that “Mission Accomplished” banner up to embarrass Bush.

Damn Bill Clinton.

Do you think Bill Clinton might have been the original source for the yellowcake rumor that embarrassed Bush in his SOTU address and fooled the White House into leaking the identity of a CIA operative’s status to the press?

“There are extensive contacts between Saddam Hussein’s government and al Qaeda.” – Joe Lieberman

http://nationalreview.com/inte…..020847.asp

the country is in a funk. I still blame George Clinton.

I know there are clips before the 9/11 attack where condi, powell and rummy say Iraq was NOT a threat, I don’t have those links though

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

Tommy–

You mentioned you and Esten are getting buzzcuts tomorrow.

Is that to look like Jon Tester?

President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat
Remarks by the President on Iraq
Cincinnati Museum Center – Cincinnati Union Terminal
Cincinnati, Ohio October 7, 2002

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..007-8.html

My fav . . .

“We’ve also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We’re concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States”

OK, here’s a recent one:

George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’”

Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’

“The United States has no quarrel with the Iraqi people; they’ve suffered too long in silent captivity. Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause, and a great strategic goal. The people of Iraq deserve it; the security of all nations requires it. Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest, and open societies do not threaten the world with mass murder. The United States supports political and economic liberty in a unified Iraq.”

President Psycho to UN General Assembly, Sept. 2002

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..912-1.html

Malacandra @ 38

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

I must respectfully disagree. Bush’s biggest lie ever was:

“I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

EvilDrPuma @ 43

Malacandra @ 38

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

I must respectfully disagree. Bush’s biggest lie ever was:

“I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

ouch

Well, it’s kinda cheating but there is an embarrassment of riches at this site:

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

For Joe, you’re on your own.

There’s this oldie but goodie…

“My answer is bring ‘em on.” —President George W. Bush, on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

EvilDrPuma @ 43

Malacandra @ 38

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

I must respectfully disagree. Bush’s biggest lie ever was:

“I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Winner, hands down.

punaise @ 44
ouch

The truth hurts.

More heartburn for the Republicans in Florida now.

Charlie Crist (R) 46%
Jim Davis (D) 44%
Other 1%
DK/NA 8%

-GSD

New poll: Lieberman up by 12 points

mc @ 47

Winner, hands down.

Unlike some of his ad nauseam repetitions about Saddam having chemical and biological weapons, he only told that whopper twice.

this one is funny…

“I couldn’t imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah.” —President George W. Bush, at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001

here we go again

BUSH: We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]

SNOW: The second thing you do is you stay the course. [7/10/06]

SNOW: But on the other hand, you also cannot be a President in a wartime and not realize that you’ve got to stay the course. [8/17/06]

BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06]

BUSH: We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]

BUSH: And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]

SNOW: People are going to want more of it, and that’s why the President is determined to stay the course. April. [8/16/06]

BUSH: And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. And that’s why when we say something in Iraq, we’re going to do it. [4/16/04]

BUSH: And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..rse-video/

“We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn’t let them in.”

Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003

mc @ 47

EvilDrPuma @ 43

Malacandra @ 38

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

I must respectfully disagree. Bush’s biggest lie ever was:

“I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Winner, hands down.

no contest. game over.

aki @ 50

New poll: Lieberman up by 12 points

Check post 124 on this thread from Saturday morning, wherein I explain why the ARG poll isn’t worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell.

EvilDrPuma @
43

Malacandra @ 38

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

I must respectfully disagree. Bush’s biggest lie ever was:

“I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Fair enough, but I’d call it a tie. :)

Oh, and lest an irony implicit in my post at #31 escape the eagle-eyes of the Firepups:

Rumsfeld cited a Johns Hopkins University study that imagines the introduction of smallpox into three U.S. states.

“Within two months, the study concluded as many as 1 million people would be dead and 2 million infected,” he said. Even if halved or quartered these statistics would be too much to bear, he said.

Note that in 2002, a Johns Hopkins University estimate of fatalities stemming from a hypothetical smallpox attack are credible and worth citing to support the administration’s position. In 2006, Johns Hopkins University estimates of 655,000 excess Iraqi fatalities resulting from our invasion (published in the peer-reviewed Lancet) are, of course, not credible.

How Johns Hopkins University has fallen!

Here’s the bottom of the gubernatorial electoral barrel according to SUSA.

47 Missouri Blunt, Matt R 36%
48 Kentucky Fletcher, Ernie R 30%
49 Ohio Taft, Bob R 18%
50 Alaska Murkowski, Frank R 17%

Smells like an autopsy room.

-GSD

So many choices and so little space and time, but since you wrote “something that came out of the mouth of either Joe Lieberman or George Bush about the Iraq mess” it looks like the quote should be from after the invasion.

Grand Prize Bush quote from his Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended speech from May 1, 2003:

Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.

Runner-up Bush quote, from one of many “listen to the Generals” statements, but recent one via CBS News from September 15, 2006:

“And that’s the way I will continue to conduct the war. I’ll listen to the generals,” Mr. Bush said. “Maybe it’s not the politically expedient thing to do. But you can’t make decisions based on politics about how to win a war.”

punaise @ 36

the country is in a funk. I still blame George Clinton.

Spew Alert!

Christy, your views are terrific, sensible and true. Keep up the good work. I like you because you’re telling the truth and it’s wonderful. Most politicians are not telling the truth and they always want to cover up the mistake the party made. Especially Lieberman who wants to protect Pres. Bush. In other words, they try to protect their own interest not the interest of the public. What the heck, they are not in good faith like the good father of the family. I hate these kind of persons who are not telling the truth. Can you give me anybody who’s in good faith and telling the truth? Is Powell or Obama telling the truth and good prospect for Presidency?

EvilDrPuma @ 57

…wherein I explain why the ARG poll isn’t worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell.

isn’t that the pirate poll?

Somebody say pirate?

mc @ 45

Well, it’s kinda cheating but there is an embarrassment of riches at this site:

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

For Joe, you’re on your own.

Ooohh…quite a spectacular collection! Thanks!

I kinda like this one:

There — it’s — you know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror.
– Interview with Katie Couric (CBS News), White House, Sep. 6, 2006

NH’s Gov. John Lynch is the highest rated Democratic governor in the latest SUSA poll with a 74% approval rating.

It is also notable that there are many Democrats in red states and many Republicans in blue states with very high approval ratings too.

-GSD

EvilDrPuma @ 57

aki @ 50

New poll: Lieberman up by 12 points

Check post 124 on this thread from Saturday morning, wherein I explain why the ARG poll isn’t worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell.

So your proof boils down to “I don’t believe it”?

Urban Pirate @ 64

Somebody say pirate?

irate.

I haven’t seen this talked about much yet. but from what I understand, if Joe was paying out of state “volunteers” to collect signatures, thats in violation, and those signatures are invalid.

There was speculation to that effect pre-primary, but no concrete proof. Maybe the reason the expenditure on non-itemized is to obscure that as well.

Anybody see any research/commentary on this?

Urban Pirate @ 69

I haven’t seen this talked about much yet. but from what I understand, if Joe was paying out of state “volunteers” to collect signatures, thats in violation, and those signatures are invalid.

There was speculation to that effect pre-primary, but no concrete proof. Maybe the reason the expenditure on non-itemized is to obscure that as well.

Anybody see any research/commentary on this?

check many of yesterday’s FDL posts

The famous 16 words are good (Go Marcy!), but with just two words George Bush pushed about every religious/political button you can imagine, in the middle east and around the world:

“This crusade . . .”

Count Dickula chimes in:

• March 16, 2003: Vice President Cheney, on NBC’s Meet the Press: “I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly, . . . (in) weeks rather than months.” He predicted that regular Iraqi soldiers would not “put up such a struggle” and that even “significant elements of the Republican Guard . . . are likely to step aside.”

-GSD

aki @ 67

EvilDrPuma @ 57

aki @ 50

New poll: Lieberman up by 12 points

Check post 124 on this thread from Saturday morning, wherein I explain why the ARG poll isn’t worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell.

So your proof boils down to “I don’t believe it”?

No, my proof boils down to “the sample representation by party is completely incompatible with representation by party in the population.” At least read it before you dismiss it, okay, dude?

Running for office? Better run from Colbert
Lawmakers are wary of his Comedy Central show, which often gives them enough cable to hang themselves.

One who did appear, Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.), discovered the pitfalls when Colbert asked him about a bill he co-sponsored requiring that the Ten Commandments be displayed in the U.S. Capitol.

“What are the Ten Commandments?” Colbert asked matter-of-factly.

“What are all of them?” Westmoreland said, taken aback. “You want me to name them all?”

The June segment showed Westmoreland struggling to name just three. Westmoreland actually named seven, said his press secretary, Brian Robinson. And the remaining ones, he added, were somewhat obscure.

http://www.latimes.com/enterta…..8221.story

This pirate says to be mighty skeptical of any polls by Aye Arrrrgh Gee.

-Blueballs Da Pirate

Knotlooking at #55 – when Bush said that Saddam would not allow inspectors in I knew he had been lying about everything up to that point. Nothing he has said could be believed. The timing of that statement would be critical – did he utter it after he had pulled the inspectors out himself because his arbitrary date for invasion was looming? I think he did.

GSD @ 75

This pirate says to be mighty skeptical of any polls by Aye Arrrrgh Gee.

-Blueballs Da Pirate

Yar betcha, matey!

Urban Pirate @ 69

I haven’t seen this talked about much yet. but from what I understand, if Joe was paying out of state “volunteers” to collect signatures, thats in violation, and those signatures are invalid.

There was speculation to that effect pre-primary, but no concrete proof. Maybe the reason the expenditure on non-itemized is to obscure that as well.

Anybody see any research/commentary on this?

excellent question that i haven’t seen raised elsewhere (’course, i could have missed it). lieberman had to have his signatures done for the day after the primary. how was that paid for? are there line item fees for that somewhere else? don’t know, but sure would like to….

If, ‘if’ I say, Lamont doesn’t pull it off, which he will, we can take heart in the solid knowledge that the Demos are going to take back BOTH houses of Congress.

Lamont will win.

Senator Lieberman wrote about the Iraq he saw: “Progress is visible and practical. There are many more cars on the streets, satellite television dishes on the roofs, and literally millions more cell phones in Iraq hands than before.”

Senator Lieberman goes on, “Does America have a good plan for doing this, a strategy for victory in Iraq? Yes, we do.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..207-1.html

Lieberman’s IRAQ Senate September 13, 2002 http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/205.html

This . . .
Saddam hates America and Americans and is working furiously to accumulate deadly weapons of mass destruction and the missiles, planes, and unmanned aerial vehicles to use in attacking distant targets.

and This . . .
“The essential facts are known. We know of the weapons in Saddam’s possession–chemical, biological, and nuclear in time”

Excuse me? where in hell did we ever get the idea about unmanned aerial vehicles capable of attacking the Unitesd States?

coulda been a contender:

“But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I’m going to say this again. I did not have diplomatic relations with that man, Mr. Hussein. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people.”

Sonoma Rus @ 81

Excuse me? where in hell did we ever get the idea about unmanned aerial vehicles capable of attacking the Unitesd States?

“We asked a doctor with a flashlight…”

Urban Pirate @
69

I haven’t seen this talked about much yet. but from what I understand, if Joe was paying out of state “volunteers” to collect signatures, thats in violation, and those signatures are invalid.

There was speculation to that effect pre-primary, but no concrete proof. Maybe the reason the expenditure on non-itemized is to obscure that as well.

Anybody see any research/commentary on this?

Not sure about that. I think the story is that most of the day laborers were handing out literature.

While we’re following the money, I am wondering if the larger GOTV effort is worth looking at for labor issues, etc.

GW Bush: “amazed that this is a society which so wants to be free that they’re willing to — you know, that there’s a level of violence that they tolerate.” Exact quote.

Like mother like son: Barbara Bush ( paraphrased) “I would think that it has worked out quite well for them” –about the people of New Orleans locked in the superdome with no where to go back to.

“Let me tell you what else I’m worried about: I’m worried about an opponent who uses nation building and the military in the same sentence. See, our view of the military is for our military to be properly prepared to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place.”

The line was an explicit condemnation of Clinton/Gore foreign policy–specifically that the White House had stretched the military too thin with peacekeeping mission in Haiti, Somalia and the Balkans. President Clinton and Vice President Gore, his Democratic opponent, had strayed from the central mission of the military: to fight and win wars, Bush said.

there are 2 lies in above quote. One about not using the military for nation building and for it to be “properly prepared” ie: Humvees w/o armor!

The quote, no. 85, by s above refers to Iraqis of course

The buzz is the GOP has written off the McGavick challenge to Maria Cantwell in Washington state and that the GOP is consigning Montana’s (R)Burns to the dustbin too.

The are circling the wagons around Tenn, Missouri and Virginia.

I think they have secretly written off the house too.

-GSD

EvilDrPuma @ 77

GSD @ 75

This pirate says to be mighty skeptical of any polls by Aye Arrrrgh Gee.

-Blueballs Da Pirate

Yar betcha, matey!

Ooh, is today “talk like a pirate day?”

“But I don’t want to be a pirate!” Seinfeld, The Puffy Shirt

s @ 87

The quote, no. 85, by s above refers to Iraqis of course

Good catch. It’s often helpful to be specific about exactly what the hell you think Bush might be talking about.

“It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.”

Lieberman says this, and believes it. And Our Lady of Perpetual Irresponsibility on Iraq, and the Middle East in general, Senator Hill, appears to believe it too.

me to me @
18

I could SWEAR before the war, during the run up, the president said;

“this is not about regime change, it’s about weapons of mass destruction”

did that happen or is it a figment of my imagination?

if my memory is correct, we HAVE to find that clip and play it and play it and play it again

You may be remembering Tony Blair (Britain) or John Howard (Australia), both of whom said this in trying to square US rhetoric with the UN resolutions. I’m not sure if Bush or Lieberman ever said it, but I can find no reference to it if they did.

–MarkusQ

One of the best characterizations of the Bush/Rove Iraq war.

‘A failed policy wrapped in illusion.’

Go Jack.

Murtha also predicts a Democratic House takeover.

-GSD

s @ 85

GW Bush: “amazed that this is a society which so wants to be free that they’re willing to — you know, that there’s a level of violence that they tolerate.” Exact quote.

Like they have a fucking choice, thanks to this moron.
_

Christy — so glad you’re doing this. Today’s NYT has a great Op-ed by Krugman in which he argues that Dems should hold to principle and not try to be “bipartisan” in dealing with the Bush regime when/if they win the Congress. I wrote a kos diary to allow Krugman quotes to be spotlighted — so if anyone would like to help, it would be appreciated.

Here is the NYT link (behind the wall) Krugman: “Don’t Play Nice”

. . . but you can read a lot of quotes from his op-ed here: diary on Krugman’s message to Lieberman

Joe Liarman: Nov 05, Joe Still was Proud to have sent troops unnecessarily off to war
“…It is no surprise to my colleagues that I strongly supported the war in Iraq. I was privileged to be the Democratic cosponsor…”

Joe Liarman: Benchmarks of Success in Iraq, Nov 2005, Joe’s Benchmarks of Success in Iraq
“…Progress is visible and practical…There are many more cars on the streets, satellite television dishes on the roofs, and literally millions more cell phones in Iraqi hands than before…”

STEPHANOPOULOS: — cut and run and stay the course.

BUSH: Listen, we’ve never been stay the course, George.

Way to many winning possibilities but I will add this one…

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/barnes-osama/
BUSH:
“bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.”

Oh, and here’s Dimson’s objective report:

Dubya: Speaking at 2003 RNC Presidental Gala
“…Since the liberation of Iraq, our investigators have found evidence of a clandestine network of biological laboratories, advanced design work on prohibited long-range missiles, an elaborate campaign to hide these illegal programs.
There’s a lot more to investigate. Yet it is now undeniable — undeniable — that Saddam Hussein was in clear violation of United Nations Security Council resolution 1441…”

Eureka Springs, AR @ 98

Way to many winning possibilities but I will add this one…

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/barnes-osama/
BUSH:
“bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.”

I’m sorry, as far as I’m concerned, that quote is the winner so far

S’more good news!

By Jennifer E. Duffy, Cook Political Report
National Journal Group Inc.
Monday, Oct. 23, 2006

This year’s 36 gubernatorial contests continue to take a backseat to the battle for control of Congress, yet Republicans appear headed for significant losses in those races as well. They hold 28 governorships, and the anti-GOP climate nationally may well cost them their majority.

http://nationaljournal.com/mem…..023nj1.htm

From Lieberman Praises Bush, Chides Kerry

Scroll down to the bottom for a collection of some of Joe’s greatest “hits”.

“If John Kerry or anyone else who voted for the war resolution thinks that they were misled in a way that makes them think they voted the wrong way in supporting the war, they have an obligation to say exactly what–what–in what way they were misled. Otherwise, they’re sending, again, a message that I would call ambivalent.” (CBS, “Face The Nation,” 8/31/03)

Here is Bush saying that we can’t win the war on terror.

“I don’t think you can win it,” Mr. Bush replied. “But I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world.”

That’s just a few weeks after he insisted that we will win it.

“One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we are asking questions, is, ‘Can you ever win the war on terror?’ Of course you can.”

From the Wall Street Journal:

“Our Troops Must Stay
America can’t abandon 27 million Iraqis to 10,000 terrorists.

BY JOE LIEBERMAN
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST

“I have just returned from my fourth trip to Iraq in the past 17 months and can report real progress there. More work needs to be done, of course, but the Iraqi people are in reach of a watershed transformation from the primitive, killing tyranny of Saddam to modern, self-governing, self-securing nationhood–unless the great American military that has given them and us this unexpected opportunity is prematurely withdrawn.

Progress is visible and practical. In the Kurdish North, there is continuing security and growing prosperity. The primarily Shiite South remains largely free of terrorism, receives much more electric power and other public services than it did under Saddam, and is experiencing greater economic activity. The Sunni triangle, geographically defined by Baghdad to the east, Tikrit to the north and Ramadi to the west, is where most of the terrorist enemy attacks occur. And yet here, too, there is progress.

There are many more cars on the streets, satellite television dishes on the roofs, and literally millions more cell phones in Iraqi hands than before. All of that says the Iraqi economy is growing. And Sunni candidates are actively campaigning for seats in the National Assembly. People are working their way toward a functioning society and economy in the midst of a very brutal, inhumane, sustained terrorist war against the civilian population and the Iraqi and American military there to protect it.

It is a war between 27 million and 10,000; 27 million Iraqis who want to live lives of freedom, opportunity and prosperity and roughly 10,000 terrorists who are either Saddam revanchists, Iraqi Islamic extremists or al Qaeda foreign fighters who know their wretched causes will be set back if Iraq becomes free and modern. The terrorists are intent on stopping this by instigating a civil war to produce the chaos that will allow Iraq to replace Afghanistan as the base for their fanatical war-making. We are fighting on the side of the 27 million because the outcome of this war is critically important to the security and freedom of America. If the terrorists win, they will be emboldened to strike us directly again and to further undermine the growing stability and progress in the Middle East, which has long been a major American national and economic security priority.”

But here’s the keeper:

“I am disappointed by Democrats who are more focused on how President Bush took America into the war in Iraq almost three years ago, and by Republicans who are more worried about whether the war will bring them down in next November’s elections, than they are concerned about how we continue the progress in Iraq in the months and years ahead.”

Walk the plank, Joe, walk the plank.

Regardless of what quotes are chosen, the more recent it is, the better. He has been changing his opinion in the past couple of weeks.
Didn’t he open the debate on the Senate floor recently regarding changing the course in Iraq? Video tape of him “caucusing” with the GOP on that would be deadly.

Bush:

The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and Al Qaeda, because there was a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda

June 17, 2004

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOL…..h.alqaeda/

I’ts not on Iraq, but

“I was sittin’ outside—the classroom—waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower of, y’know, the TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself and I said well there’s one terrible pilot, and I said it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off and didn’t have much time to think about it…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgFibjRFfvU

The YouTube vid is from three months after 9/11, although I think he made the claim publicly more than once.

Throughout Iraq, we’re also seeing challenges common to young democracies. Corruption is a problem at both the national and local levels of the Iraqi government. We will not tolerate fraud — so our embassy in Baghdad is helping to demand transparency and accountability for the money being invested in reconstruction. We’ve helped the Iraqi people establish institutions like a Commission on Public Integrity and a stronger Supreme Board of Audit to improve oversight of the rebuilding process. Listen, the Iraqi people expect money to be spent openly and honestly — and so do the American people.
–GEORGE CLEARING BUSH

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..207-1.html

O/t for others on dial-up like me who can’t enjoy You Tube:

http://www.swingstateproject.c…..avorit.php

Hoot of a mailer from Paul Hodes in NH. Whoever “thunk” this baby up gets an “A “!

I think the biggest, most important lie George Bush has told was told during the first presidential debates. To show he would stay clear of foriegn entanglements like Somalia, he said (and I paraphrase), “The United States does not do nation building.” This is the lie that tells the truth. Of course, we do nation building (we’ve helped rebuild Europe twice, Japan once), but George Bush, despite his flip-flopping, doesn’t build nations. Now, even when he claims to be nation building, he isn’t. He’s failed already in Afghanistan; now he’s failing again in Iraq.

Re the Governor’s races and the hopes that dems will pick up a majority of state governerships, a while back I thought maybe the way to take back our government was within the states. And that is what I believe Howard Dean believes too. D.C. is too establishment and addicted to corporate money and power to really make a change but if we had all the state houses, and controlled voting, budgets, etc. this unitary administration would have a munity on his hands. This would definitely play well with conservatives for haven’t they been for strong state governments?

There are major problems with this like women’s right, taxes, etc., but they would surely hold Bush’s rants to account.

OT – Colin McEnroe on Alan Schlesinger:

[…]
Last week, a funny thing happened. He debated Lamont and Lieberman. Schlesinger, who debates the two front-runners again Monday evening, likes to call this new phase of his campaign “The Piata Strikes Back.”

A former mayor and state legislator, Schlesinger is what you might call a Goldwater Republican. In his case, not so much Barry as Morty Goldwater, the guy who used to hold forth in the Minnehaha Lounge at the Wonooscapomic Country Club. Remember Morty? He’d start out kind of charming and get louder as the evening rolled along. His opinions would get more forceful and possibly less grounded in fact, so that by around 11 p.m., he had pretty much half the barroom to himself.

In this particular Senate race, though, Morty Goldwater is just what the doctor ordered. The poll numbers were frozen in place, with three-term incumbent Lieberman headed toward a comfortable victory over Lamont, the guy who beat him in the Democratic primary. While waiting for the inevitable on Nov. 7, Lieberman and Lamont seemed locked in a struggle over who could be a less electrifying political presence. Then Schlesinger jolted the campaign out of its slumber with the first big exchange of the first debate on Oct. 16.
[…]

Here is my nominations (both Dubya):

Asked whether or not we fought the wrong war during an interview on NBC, 8/29/06(I think):
“Did we fight the wrong war, and absolutely not — I have no doubt. The war came to our shores, remember that. We were, we had, a foreign policy that basically said let’s hope calm works. And we were attacked.”

By the way, anybody ever check out the press release “Newsdesk” of the National Republican Senatorial Committee? ALL news releases concern the completed discredited non-scandal of Senator Reid’s transfer of real estate to an LLC. http://www.gopsenators.com/newsdesk/

Um. Sorry. Re-submitting this due to multiple typos. Here is my nomination (Dubya):

Asked whether or not we fought the wrong war during an interview on NBC, 8/29/06(I think):
“Did we fight the wrong war, and absolutely not — I have no doubt. The war came to our shores, remember that. We were, we had, a foreign policy that basically said let’s hope calm works. And we were attacked.”

By the way, anybody ever check out the press release “Newsdesk” of the National Republican Senatorial Committee? ALL news releases concern the completely discredited non-scandal of Senator Reid’s transfer of real estate to an LLC. http://www.gopsenators.com/newsdesk/

by DemFromCT

Two realizations are beginning to permeate the slow-to-change minds of the DC pundits: a Democratic House (with or without the Senate) would mean a shift in policy and Bush agenda, and the Iraq stay-the-course policy is unsustainable. Somehow, despite the Bush Administration insisting on black and white, the press corps is beginning to see a world of other colors. Since 2000 and the need to complete the illusion of a Bush win, the beltway opinionati have done less than their share of challenging, fact checking and outright reporting on the faith-based Bush WH and their disastrous policies.

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/

OT, at Raw Story:

Lamont campaign to file formal FEC complaint regarding Lieberman’s alleged ’slush fund’

RAW STORY
Published: Monday October 23, 2006

The Ned Lamont campaign is planning to file a formal complaint with the Federal Election Commission over Connectictut Senator Joe Lieberman’s alleged “slush fund,” according to a press release obtained by RAW STORY.

Howard Dean has climbed into his own spider hole of denial if he believes that the capture of Saddam Hussein has not made America safer. –J. Lieberman, December 2003

link

“[W]e have evidence of meetings between Iraqi officials and leaders of al Qaeda, and testimony that Iraqi agents helped train al Qaeda operatives to use chemical and biological weapons. We also know that al Qaeda leaders have been, and are now, harbored in Iraq.

Having reached the conclusion I have about the clear and present danger Saddam represents to the U.S., I want to give the president a limited but strong mandate to act against Saddam.”

Senator Joseph W. Bush Lieberman http://www.opinionjournal.com/…..=110002391

Band on the run.

AP – The White House said Monday that the fledgling Iraqi government must step up and take more responsibility for the country’s security, but said the United States is not issuing ultimatums to Baghdad.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..wh/us_iraq

mc @ 47

EvilDrPuma @ 43

Malacandra @ 38

OK… this has got to be Bush’s biggest lie. Ever.

I agree — better than “I’m the Decider.”
From a March 8, 2003 radio address.

“We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq.”

I must respectfully disagree. Bush’s biggest lie ever was:

“I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Winner, hands down.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 119

Band on the run.

AP – The White House said Monday that the fledgling Iraqi government must step up and take more responsibility for the country’s security, but said the United States is not issuing ultimatums to Baghdad.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..wh/us_iraq

Time to Blame the Victim.

It was all gonna be SO easy.
_

punaise @ 36 – Thanks. Now everyone in my office is staring at me, the laughing lunatic in front of a computer screen…

“Nationwide, American military leaders estimate that about one-third of the approximately 100,000 members of the Iraqi military are able to “lead the fight” themselves with logistical support from the U.S., and that that number should double by next year. If that happens, American military forces could begin a drawdown in numbers proportional to the increasing self-sufficiency of the Iraqi forces in 2006.”

HoJo, in the WSJ, 29 November 2005.

The same article claims the insurgency is 10,000 dead-enders vs. 27 million freedom-loving Iraqi patriots. Let’s see, 10,000 vs 100,000 Iraqi troops ready to go. Why are we still there?

I guess that didn’t work out so well, eh Joe?

————————–
And for Georgie Porgie, Puddin’ and Bush:

“Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere.”

BC

“As long as Saddam is there, Iraq is not just going to be a thorn in our side, but a threat to our lives,” Lieberman, the Democrats’ 2000 vice presidential nominee, told reporters Monday in Washington.

http://www.newsmax.com/archive…..0751.shtml

Hey! Where’d my links go?

BC

Dee @ 122

punaise @ 36 – Thanks. Now everyone in my office is staring at me, the laughing lunatic in front of a computer screen…

no one promised the FDL was work-safe! at least we don’t have a Parliament :~)

Bargain Countertenor @ 123

“Nationwide, American military leaders estimate that about one-third of the approximately 100,000 members of the Iraqi military are able to “lead the fight” themselves with logistical support from the U.S., and that that number should double by next year. If that happens, American military forces could begin a drawdown in numbers proportional to the increasing self-sufficiency of the Iraqi forces in 2006.”
HoJo, in the WSJ, 29 November 2005.

The same article claims the insurgency is 10,000 dead-enders vs. 27 million freedom-loving Iraqi patriots. Let’s see, 10,000 vs 100,000 Iraqi troops ready to go. Why are we still there?

I guess that didn’t work out so well, eh Joe?

————————–
And for Georgie Porgie, Puddin’ and Bush:

“Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere.”

BC

I found them! Now if I could only find those WMDs . . .

In case you weren’t invited: I was the photographer for Joe and Dubs Fabulous Wedding
(available in flash here)

In case you weren’t invited: I was the photographer for Joe and Dubs Fabulous Wedding
watch it here!

Flip

December 8, 2005

“It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be commander in chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril”

Flop

September 13, 2006 (After losing the Democratic Primary to Ned Lamont)

“It is wrong for some on the right to imply that some Democrats don’t care if the terrorists succeed, or that debating the merits of the president’s policies on the war on terrorism emboldens our enemies”

http://www.newsmax.com/archive…..5802.shtml

I thought that this might be of interest:
http://www.betanews.com/articl…..1161618740

Diebold Source Code Disks Mailed to Maryland Democrat
By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews
October 23, 2006, 12:03 PM

The Baltimore Sun is reporting that a former delegate in Maryland’s state legislature, who is also both a well-known local philanthropist and critic of the state’s election system, received an anonymously mailed package appearing to contain original source code diskettes used by Diebold Election Systems for machines used in that state’s election in 2004.

The version of the election software on those diskettes, as well as its markings, appear to indicate that they do not contain programs used in this year’s statewide elections, but instead a version used during a testing session by an independent firm in November 2003, according to the Sun.

However, if the FBI or other officials can verify their authenticity, it could raise even more questions regarding the integrity of elections tabulated using Diebold equipment, which were already in some doubt.

An anonymous letter addressed to Cheryl C. Kagan, accompanying the diskettes, stated that they were acquired from the State Board of Elections. It went on to say, “You have the software because you are a credible person who can save the state from itself. You must alert the media and save democracy.”

Kagan reportedly alerted the state attorney-general’s office, which broke the news in a public statement.

The revelation prompted calls by the state’s Republican governor, Robert L. Ehrlich, Jr., to renew his call for scrapping the Diebold equipment altogether, joining Kagan’s calls for a return to a paper ballot, or at least some type of voting mechanism where votes are physically recorded.

(snip)

One month before the 2004 election Lieberman gave us another example of his backstabbing sanctimony:

October 13, 2004

“We are dealing with a president who’s had a record of strong, consistent support for Israel. You can’t say otherwise,” Lieberman told an audience of 600 near Delray Beach, Fla, the Palm Beach Post reported in editions Thursday.

http://www.newsmax.com/archive…..1645.shtml

Needless to say, he also opined that Kerry’s support among Jewish voters was soft because Kerry was not sufficiently supportive of Israel.

This is waaaaay OT….

I’ve run across this link, and I am curious if anyone here has seen or heard of this. This frightens me to death. Please tell me that these folks are wearing tin foil and I should give it no credibility.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?
Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=295002651#
Post295002651

Sorry, I don’t know how to shorten the links.

Twisted Martini @
10

Maybe the 387 large was needed for Dangerstein’s body waxing?

Just a drive-by, trying to speed-read past 24 hours of FDL. John Casper and others were wondering why if just legit per diems for campaigners, why thru petty cash? RevDeb noted that she was required to sign for her $5 lunch money when campaigning for Ned, Joe’s people would (should) have had a similar procedure. So there should be a record.

But if the volunteers (or ‘volunteers’) in a *Democratic* primary were in fact Young Republicans or such, would that be something Joe would try to keep quiet? Would be embarrassing, if not illegal.

Matt Stoller reported an incident in a diner August 3, I think. Christy has links to that and some other assorted LieberThuggishness w/signs and some shoving at the Temptations concert here .

Assertions were made that these folks, whoever they were, were paid $60/day. I seem to recall someone (CTBob?) finding out that they’d been bumped up to $100/day nr the end? TeddySanFran wondered over at MyDD whether they were Young Republicans at the time. Some of them were older, and their actions certainly seemed more like the Brook Brothers Riot that we are used to seeing from the left — we tend to be more chaotic, as a rule. *g*

Couldn’t exactly funnel it through Alan Schlesinger’s campaign, either, he was unopposed in the primary, IIRC? There are a couple of names in the newspaper account, would be interesting if they are registered voters anywhere.

Lamon to file FEC complaint regarding Lieberman’s alleged ’slush fund’

http://tinyurl.com/yecohs

Hugh @ 132

One month before the 2004 election Lieberman gave us another example of his backstabbing sanctimony:

October 13, 2004

“We are dealing with a president who’s had a record of strong, consistent support for Israel. You can’t say otherwise,” Lieberman told an audience of 600 near Delray Beach, Fla, the Palm Beach Post reported in editions Thursday.

http://www.newsmax.com/archive…..1645.shtml

Needless to say, he also opined that Kerry’s support among Jewish voters was soft because Kerry was not sufficiently supportive of Israel.

How in the world could successive U.S. governments or American politicians be more supportive of Israel? I’ve no doubt Lieberman could come up with something.

Way off topic but just found this tidbit while googling Iran-Contra: “Former Congressman Lee Hamilton, Chairman of the House Select Committee Investigating the Iran-Contra affair, was shown ample evidence against Reagan and Bush but he did not probe their wrongdoing.”

“As you know, I’ve made the tough decision to commit American troops into harm’s way. It’s the toughest decision a President can ever make, but I want you to know that I tried diplomacy — in other words, a President has got to be able to say to the American people, diplomacy didn’t work. “
GWBushleague – Sun City Center, FL – 5/9/2006

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/war.phtml
(I love this site!)

Sally @ 137

Way off topic but just found this tidbit while googling Iran-Contra: “Former Congressman Lee Hamilton, Chairman of the House Select Committee Investigating the Iran-Contra affair, was shown ample evidence against Reagan and Bush but he did not probe their wrongdoing.”

Why am I not surprised? I am so weary of the mutual back scratching.

Paraphrasing George-
“When you hear of governemnet wiretapping – we are getting warrants!”

If J-Lie used a slush fund to give cash to “independent contractors” would he have to write 1099s for them?

Hey, even Al Capone was finally tripped up…by the IRS.

Sally @ 137

Way off topic but just found this tidbit while googling Iran-Contra: “Former Congressman Lee Hamilton, Chairman of the House Select Committee Investigating the Iran-Contra affair, was shown ample evidence against Reagan and Bush but he did not probe their wrongdoing.”

Lee Hamilton has been whitewashing republican malfeasance for many years. He’s always a favorite go-to guy.

Kentucky Woman @ 133

This is waaaaay OT….

I’ve run across this link, and I am curious if anyone here has seen or heard of this. This frightens me to death. Please tell me that these folks are wearing tin foil and I should give it no credibility.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?
Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=295002651#
Post295002651

Sorry, I don’t know how to shorten the links.

Bad link. What’s it about?

“Whether or not Saddam is implicated directly in the anthrax attacks or the horrors of September 11, he is, by any common definition, a terrorist who must be removed.” – Joe Lieberman

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=lieberman anthrax attacks iraq&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=rwor.org/a/v23/1130-39/1130/iraq.htm&w=lieberman anthrax attacks iraq&d=XP-kbyQ8NRkl&icp=1&.intl=us

I’m trying to fix the darn thing…but it basically says that when Base Falcon was attacked on Oct 10 (the ammo that blew up like a mushroom cloud), over 300 US servicemen were killed, and it is being covered up. Then it goes on to list the names, rank, etc. of those killed.

Another Disastrous Coverup

Forward Base Falcon Disaster

by Brian Harring

Baghdad’s sky is illuminated by huge explosions in the Iraqi capital (pic AAP)

Late on the evening of October 10, 2006, Iraqi resistance groups lobbed mortar and rocket rounds into the immense ‘Forward Base Falcon,’ the largest American military base in Iraq, located 13 km south of the Green Zone in Baghdad. In addition to accurate mortar fire, Grad and Katyusha rockets were also used.

Falcon base was designed to house a large contingent of American troops, mostly drawn from the 4th Infantry Division, stationed at Fr. Bliss, Texas. At the time of the attack, there were approximately 3000 men inside the camp, which also was filled with ammunition supplies, fuel, tanks and vehicles.

Iraqi contractors had assisted in the construction of the camp, which occupied nearly a square mile and was surrounded with guard tower-studded high concrete walls, and it is now apparent that the Resistance movement had been given important targets from “sources familiar with the layout” of the base.

After the initial shelling, fuel and ammunition stores began to erupt with massive explosions that could be heard, and seen, miles away inside the Green Zone where U.S. military and diplomatic units were heavily guarded.

The explosions, all of them termed “immense” by BBC reporters, continued throughout the night.

In response, US aircraft indiscriminately rocketed and bombed various parts of the city, BBC and AFP correspondents eported, trying to knock out the launch sites of the rockets

The BBC’s Andrew North, in Baghdad, said the explosions started at about 2300 (2100 BST) and were becoming “ever more frequent” as the huge fires spread throughout the base, punctuated by tremendous explosions as more fuel and ammunition dumps ignited.

“Intelligence indicates that civilians aligned with a militia organization were responsible for last night’s mortar attack,” said Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Withington, spokesman for the U.S. 4th Infantry Division.

An after action report, issued by the Department of Defense, stated that: “On October 10, 2006, at approximately 10:40 p.m., a 82mm mortar round, fired by militia forces from a residential area in Abu T-Shir, caused a fire at an Ammunition Supply Point (ASP) at FOB Falcon. The ASP, containing tank and artillery rounds, in addition to smaller caliber ammunition, set off a series of large explosions. About 100 troops from the 4th Infantry Division were reported to be stationed at the base at the time, but no injuries were reported.” (Emphasis added.) “The damage to the area will not degrade the operational capability of MND-B (Multinational Division Baghdad),”

When the flames had been brought under control on the morning of the 11th of October, primarily because the entire camp had been gutted, nine large American military transports with prominent Red Cross markings were observed by members of the foreign media taking off, laded with the dead and the wounded.

Over 300 American troops, including U.S. Army and Marines, CIA agents and U.S. translators were casualties and there also were 165 seriously injured requiring major medical attention and 39 suffering lesser injuries 122 members of the Iraqi armed forces were killed and 90 seriously injured members of same, were also evacuated to the U.S. military hospital at al-Habbaniyah located some 70km west of Baghdad.

Satellite pictures and aerial photographs from neutral sources showed that Camp Falcon suffered major structural damage and almost all the U.S. military’s supply of small arms ammunition, artillery and rocket rounds, tons of fuel, six Apache helicopters, an uncounted but large number of soft-skinned vehicles such as Humvees and supply trucks were damaged or totally destroyed. Foreign press observers noted “an endless parade” of military vehicle recovery units dragging burnt-out heavy tanks and armored personnel carriers to another base outside Baghdad.

Many of the walls and towers of the camp were damaged or leveled as were many of the barracks, maintenance depots, and there was considerable damage to the huge mess halls that could hold 3000 soldiers, the huge recreation center with its basketball courts and indoor swimming pools and all the administration buildings

Although official U.S. DoD statements indicated that there were no deaths; that only a hundred men were inside the base guarding billions of dollars of vital military equipment and that there were “only two minor injuries to personnel,” passes belief and certainly reality is more painful than propaganda.

Not only has the U.S. military machine lost much of its armor and transport, and its entire reserves of ammunition and special fuel, but the casualty list for only the first day is over 300..

Here is a transcription of that list who were evacuated to other hospital units:.

In re: Insurgent attacks on Forward Base Falcon on 10-11 October, 2006

Official Casualty List from U.S. military hospital at al-Habbaniyah located some 70km west of Baghdad. U.S. medical personnel at al-Habbaniyah initially stated that the US military hospital at the massive American-occupied air base there had begun to receive dead and wounded personnel. The military hospital in al-Habbaniyah, the largest in occupied Iraq, was opened on 12 May this year in response to sharply rising (and redacted) US casualties.

List compiled and effective as of 11 Oct 06 at 2300.

Sorry to do this, but it’s freaking me out abit.

Sally – This site is full of goodies, thanks.

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/sear…..ll&em=
Under the dictator, prisons like Abu Gar — reb — were symbols of death and torture. That same prison became a symbol of disgraceful conduct by a few American troops who dishonored our country and “disregardered” our values. America will fund the construction of a modern, maximum security prison. When that prison is completed, detainees at Abu Garomp will be relocated. Then, with the approval of the Iraqi government, we will demolish the Abu Garab prison, as a fitting symbol of Iraq’s new beginning.
– Dubya starts out shaky, then completely gives up trying to correctly pronounce the name of the prison infamous for American mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners (Abu Ghraib), United States Army War College, Carlisle, Pennsylvania, May 24, 2004

I found these two gems (one on topic, one off) from a Paul Krugman piece on October 16, 2006 at Eschaton:

In a recent interview with The Hartford Courant, Senator Joseph Lieberman said something that wasn’t credible. When the newspaper asked him whether America would be better off if the Democrats took control of the House of Representatives next month, he replied, “Uh, I haven’t thought about that enough to give an answer.“

Couldn’t resist this. It’s an example of Republican priorities and helps explain why their approval ratings are where they are:

The current Congress has shown no inclination to investigate the Bush administration. Last year The Boston Globe offered an illuminating comparison: when Bill Clinton was president, the House took 140 hours of sworn testimony into whether Mr. Clinton had used the White House Christmas list to identify possible Democratic donors. But in 2004 and 2005, a House committee took only 12 hours of testimony on the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

Oh. Shit. My nephew is with the 4th infantry and is in Iraq now. . . near Bagdad is all my sister knows

Kentucky Woman @ 133

This is waaaaay OT…. I’ve run across this link, and I am curious if anyone here has seen or heard of this. This frightens me to death. Please tell me that these folks are wearing tin foil and I should give it no credibility. http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php? Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=295002651# Post295002651 Sorry, I don’t know how to shorten the links.

Let’s see if this works: http://www.libertyforum.org/sh…..&part=

Thank you Stephen, I appreciate your help!!

Now, can anyone tell me if this is truth or craziness (as if the occupation is not crazy).

Kentucky Woman @ 145

I’m trying to fix the darn thing…but it basically says that when Base Falcon was attacked on Oct 10 (the ammo that blew up like a mushroom cloud), over 300 US servicemen were killed, and it is being covered up. Then it goes on to list the names, rank, etc. of those killed…

Sorry to do this, but it’s freaking me out a bit.

Doubt that they could cover up such a thing.
_

Did someone already post this Joe quote? Sorry if it’s a duplicate.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..dent-bush/

It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.

Nephew’s name not on the linked list. Goodness, if those lists are true and families learn of it online. . . .

new thread: Cuppa Soiled Slush and Other Better Blue America News

loubarr @ 153

Nephew’s name not on the linked list. Goodness, if those lists are true and families learn of it online. . . .

I love a good conspiracy / malfeasance story as much as anyone, but, again, I doubt that they could suppress such news for very long at all. Too many other non U.S. eyes out there, and our adversaries would be trumpeting it at nosebleed volume. Take a deep breath.

I could be wrong, but…

Were it true, and word got loose, it’s Game Over for the GOP in the mid-terms. Another Tet, only worse.

Still, I’m from Missouri on this story.
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Hugh 147- That one is priceless. I spoke with a friend who passed through Nixa, MO (near Springfield) yesterday. New low price 1.63 for gasoline. Down nearly a quarter per gallon in the last couple of weeks. Uber Theo-Republican country.

thanks BobbyG—I’ll take your word in this one (mostly cuz it’s what I want to hear)

I hope so. I would hate to think that the crooks in charge would be capable of something like this, but, I am at the point where I put nothing by them.

Too many lies and questions over the last six years, it becomes easier to believe things that previously seemed incredible.

Eureka Springs, AR @ 156
Hugh @ 147

Bought gas weekend before last (the 14th). At my friendly local station it was 2.62/gal, down from 3.00 on Sept 9. This is L.A.: anything under 2.50 (the going rate at Arco stations) will get your location mobbed. Under 2.00, you will have a riot.

P J Evans – We are about 90 miles from Nixa, MO and holding steady at 2.09.

GWB: Stay the course? I was just sayin’ I didn’t want any dessert.

Bernhard at the blog Moon of Alabama made an interesting discovery. If you check the white house site for the keywords, “stay the course”, you get 153 results.

A free Iraq will mean a peaceful world. And it’s very important for us to stay the course, and we will stay the course.
President Discusses AIDS Initiative, Iraq in Botswana, July 10, 2003

It’s in the national interest of the United States that a peaceful Iraq emerge. And we will stay the course in order to achieve this objective.
President Bush, Ambassador Bremer Discuss Progress in Iraq , October 27, 2003

… they want us to leave, because they know that a free and peaceful Iraq in their midst will damage their cause. And we will stay the course, we will do our job.
President Bush Visits California — Talks to Victims of Fires, November 4, 2003

We will stay the course, and as more and more Iraqis realize freedom is precious and freedom is a beautiful way of life, …
President Bush, Italian President Ciampi Discuss Iraq , November 14, 2003

I was able to assure them that we were going to stay the course and get the job done, …
President Discusses Trip to Iraq with Reporters, November 27, 2003

And as in the aftermath of the terrible attack on Pearl Harbor, our Nation will stay the course, and we will prevail.
National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, 2003 , December 5, 2003

We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. And it’s very important for the Iraqi people to know that.
President Bush Holds Press Conference, December 15, 2003

I told the family how much we appreciated his sacrifice — he was killed in Iraq — and assured him that we would stay the course,
President Bush Discusses Iraq, 911 Commission with Reporters , April 5, 2004

We will stay the course. The Iraqi people don’t have to fear taking the risk toward freedom and democracy because America won’t turn and run.
Global Message, April 6, 2004

Look, this is hard work. It’s hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny. And, yet, we must stay the course, because the end result is in our nation’s interest.
President Addresses the Nation in Prime Time Press Conference, April 13, 2004

And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq.
Bush, Blair Discuss Sharon Plan; Future of Iraq in Press Conference , April 16, 2004

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If we don’t lose our nerve, if we stay the course, someday down the road, an American President will be working with democratically-elected leaders in the broader Middle East at the table to keep the peace.
President’s Remarks at Mike Sodrel for Congress and Indiana Victory 2006 Reception, March 24, 2006

And I’d just like to reiterate what the other governors have said, that it is very important that we stay the course, that we provide support for these incredible people that are doing such a service for liberty around the world and protecting our freedoms here.
President Meets with Governors Who Traveled to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan, April 19, 2006

And I saw people wondering whether the United States would have the nerve to stay the course and help them succeed.
Remarks by the President at the 2006 President’s Dinner, June 19, 2006

As a matter of fact, we will win in Iraq so long as we stay the course.
Remarks by the President at “Green for Wisconsin” Reception, July 11, 2006

But there’s no alternative but to stay the course with it. And we will.
President Bush and Prime Minister Blair of the United Kingdom Participate in Press Availability, July 28, 2006

We will stay the course, we will help this young Iraqi democracy succeed,
President Bush’s Remarks Upon Arrival in Utah, August 30, 2006

Stay the course also means don’t leave before the job is done. And that’s — we’re going to get the job done in Iraq. And it’s important that we do get the job done in Iraq.
Press Conference by the President , October 11, 2006

Posted by Bernhard on October 23, 2006

Eureka Springs, AR @ 156

Hugh 147- That one is priceless. I spoke with a friend who passed through Nixa, MO (near Springfield) yesterday. New low price 1.63 for gasoline. Down nearly a quarter per gallon in the last couple of weeks. Uber Theo-Republican country.

To paraphrase G. Carlin, noted American moral philosopher and comedian, there is some goofy shit going on here. Gas prices in New Mexico are usually slightly below Kansas/Missouri prices. Now my local prices are $0.60/gallon above Missouri prices.

Las Cruces prices are usually $0.05 – $0.10 /gallon below Albuquerque’s prices. Today, we’re $0.20 /gallon above. Somebody’s messing around with gas prices, because there seem to be all manner of anomalies right now.

Do I hear $3.00 /gallon average national price on November 10?

BC

scarecrow @
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Christy — so glad you’re doing this. Today’s NYT has a great Op-ed by Krugman in which he argues that Dems should hold to principle and not try to be “bipartisan” in dealing with the Bush regime when/if they win the Congress. I wrote a kos diary to allow Krugman quotes to be spotlighted — so if anyone would like to help, it would be appreciated.

Here is the NYT link (behind the wall) Krugman: “Don’t Play Nice”

. . . but you can read a lot of quotes from his op-ed here: diary on Krugman’s message to Lieberman

I added a comment to your post at DKos with a Spotlight link. Or you can use this one:

Spotlight Scarecrow’s DKos post

How about the North Korean “nucular” test, Joe? You agree with the Bush Administration’s position, don’t you?

From the Washington Post 10/22/06 (h/t Think Progress)

“At many points, the United States found itself at odds with other partners in the six-party process, such as China and South Korea, which repeatedly urged the Bush administration to show more flexibility in its tactics. Meanwhile, administration officials were often divided on North Korea policy, with some wanting to engage the country and others wanting to isolate it.

Before North Korea announced it had detonated a nuclear device, some senior officials even said they were quietly rooting for a test, believing that would finally clarify the debate within the administration.

On her trip to Asia this week, Rice has come close to saying the test was a net plus for the United States. She has tried to deflect criticism by saying the test was an affirmation, rather than a failure, of the Bush administration’s policy of trying to draw China deeper into negotiations on North Korea.”

This Joe quote is on FDL. A quote from Lieberman that should be posted next to every torture billboard in CT!

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…../#comments

Joe kept going over his alotted time, so much so that CBS moderator Bob Schieffer had to cut him off abruptly. Joe also tried to beef up his GOP credentials by calling for. . . wait for it. . . regime change in Iran. As if one FUBAR war of choice were not enough. The man is criminally, homicidally insane.

BobbyG @
151

Kentucky Woman @ 145

I’m trying to fix the darn thing…but it basically says that when Base Falcon was attacked on Oct 10 (the ammo that blew up like a mushroom cloud), over 300 US servicemen were killed, and it is being covered up. Then it goes on to list the names, rank, etc. of those killed…

Sorry to do this, but it’s freaking me out a bit.

Doubt that they could cover up such a thing.
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Sure they could – not indefinitely, but I could easily see this crowd trying to sit on this ’til after the election. Of course, just because they’re capable of it, isn’t proof they actually did it.

My personal fave:

“Had we to do it over again, we would look at the consequences of
catastrophic success, being so successful so fast that an enemy that should
have surrendered or been done in escaped and lived to fight another day.”
—President Bush, telling Time magazine that he underestimated the Iraqi
resistance, Aug. 2004

Cause yeah, George, being too successful has been our problem in Iraq.

My personal fave:

“Had we to do it over again, we would look at the consequences of catastrophic success, being so successful so fast that an enemy that should have surrendered or been done in escaped and lived to fight another day.”
—President Bush, telling Time magazine that he underestimated the Iraqi resistance, Aug. 2004

Cause yeah, George, being too successful has been our problem in Iraq.

Ooops. Meant to clean it up a bit, and double-posted. Sorry about that. . .

“The Administration’s recent use of the banner ‘clear, hold, and build’ accurately describes the strategy as I saw it being implemented” in Iraq. Wall Street Journal, Nove. 29, 2005

Lieberman quote.

“No, no, no Joe. I said READ MY LIPS, like my Daddy once said, not KISS MY LIPS!!! Okay, okay, (sigh), if we must. But give me some tongue this time, okay?”

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“Weapons of mass destruction program related activities”

I would call Jomentum a:

“Republican weapon of democratic program related activities”

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I think Joe can say some pretty stupid things. And the kiss is about the stupidist things two politicians have done in public in a long time. But since it is an election year. And since this has been the republican motto since 2003 and think I would vote for the most outragiuos lie from Bush as being on George Stephanopoulos show last Sunday and saying this;
“We have never been stay the course.” see the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZE20lzZZF0

I believe this was from Aug 2003

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sen. Joe Lieberman attacked the left wing of his party Sunday, saying Democrats “don’t deserve to run the country” if they move left and embrace “the failed solutions of the past.”
“If we’re for middle-class tax increases, if we send a message of weakness and ambivalence on defense, if we go back to big government spending, if we’re against trade [and] for protectionism — which never created a job — we don’t deserve to run the country,” Lieberman, a presidential candidate, said on “Fox News Sunday.”
“We’re not going to be able to meet the challenges that America faces today.”

From Joe himself, even though it sounds more like Dick Cheney:
“After bin Laden, we must target Saddam” by Joseph Lieberman. Wall Street Journal. Oct. 29, 2001. pA22: Did Saddam have a direct hand in the attacks on America that began on Sept. 11? The evidence at our disposal is circumstantial but suggestive. We do know that he has not just the motive and malevolence, but the means. And we also know that Iraqi intelligence officials have met at critical times with members of the al Qaeda network.

AND for more fun I decided to dig up some comments from over the years:
Floor Statement February 3, 2005. Lieberman defending the Abu Gonzales’ torture memo:
“ I think, respectfully, Judge Gonzales was being restrained and diplomatic in using the word ‘quaint” (when describing the Geneva Conventions)”
http://lieberman.senate.gov/ne…..?id=231560

HoJoe on Clarence Thomas. Hartford Courant, Jan. 19, 1992. “His entire life is an inspiring example of what an individual who has faith, ability, and a desire to work can achieve in this country.”

Hartford Courant. Jan. 19 1992.
“(The Democratic Party) wants to take money from people who work and give it to people who don’t.”

Okay better stop.

HoJoe on the reasons for Abu Ghraib. “Let us have faith” by Joseph Lieberman. May 14, 2004. Wall street journal.
HoJoe doing a gee whiz on Abu Ghraib:
Was it somehow also the cumulative effect on a generation raised in an entertainment and Internet culture that has grown increasingly violent and pornographic?
And then argues that firing Rumsfled will only make the terrorists happy:
Many argue that we can only rectify the wrongs done in the Iraqi prisons if Secretary Rumsfeld resigns. I disagree. Unless there is clear evidence connecting him to the wrongdoing, it is neither sensible nor fair to force the resignation of the secretary of defense, who clearly retains the confidence of the Commander in Chief, in the midst of a war. I have yet to see such evidence. Donald Rumsfeld’s removal would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America’s presence in Iraq.

“Our Resolution” by HoJoe. Wall Street Journal Oct 7, 2002. pg. A.26. HoJoe channeling Dick Cheney again:
So, my answer to “Why now?” is, “Why not earlier?” And, of course, that question has new urgency since Sept. 11, 2001.– Won’t a war against Iraq slow or stop our more urgent war against terrorism? To me, the two are inextricably linked.

“We must help Iraq overcome terrorist” by Ho Joe. Hartford Courant. Dec. 4 2005. (This editorial could supply many nuggets.)HoJoe on progress in Iraq:
Progress is visible and practical . . . There are many more cars on the streets, satellite television dishes on the roofs, and literally millions more cellphones in Iraqi hands than before. All of that says the Iraqi economy is growing

Letters to the Editor. Hartford Courant. Oct 13, 2005. pg. A10:
Sen. Lieberman commented that Brown’s time as an assistant city manager in Edmond, Okla., was a “particularly useful experience” because he had responsibility for local emergency services. When officials in Edmund were contacted regarding Mr. Brown, they stated that as an assistant to the city manager, he did not supervise employees or have specific responsibilities for emergency services

When I read the links posted by mui I am curious if Tipper Gore made Al choose Lieberman for his running mate. jeeesus

“After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got. Some in this chamber, and in our country, did not support the liberation of Iraq. Objections to war often come from principled motives. But let us be candid about the consequences of leaving Saddam Hussein in power. We’re seeking all the facts. Already, the Kay Report identified dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations.” — State of the Union Address (1/20/04)

The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas.”
George W. Bush, Oct. 7, 2002