Jane!

Swanny!

What I’d like to know is what were the origins of all this so called petty cash?

Medina on the DoddPod contents:

C’mon people, he obviously needs your help.

She oughta know about needing help, considering how much help she needed re the anonymous personage she quoted about the LieberCash being “probably not illegal.” On the bright side, we managed to get the NYTimes “blog” to accept comments. How cool is that?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 1

What I’d like to know is what were the origins of all this so called petty cash?

Karl got JimmyJeff to turn over some tips?

Teddy #3 — I am soooo impressed. You got the NYT to correct!

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..nnecticut/

I thought Atlas Juggs was our pal Pammy the Lawn Guyland Vlogger…it’s so confusing

punaise @ 6

I thought Atlas Juggs was our pal Pammy the Lawn Guyland Vlogger…it’s so confusing

You mean that wasn’t Pam Atlas?

Wow. My bad.

Jane Hamsher @ 5

Teddy #3 — I am soooo impressed. You got the NYT to correct!

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..nnecticut/

awesome, TSF!

Jane Hamsher @ 5

Teddy #3 — I am soooo impressed. You got the NYT to correct!

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..nnecticut/

Yeah, I’ve moved up to the majors, now that WaPo’s Little Debbie is all-local-all-the-time.

Per others prior thread, I was thrilled that the NYT’s saw fit to publish TeddySanFran and my comments along with other Ned supporters. I left this as a response, I hope they publish this too.

Ms. Medina, thank you for responding, and above all, thank you very much for printing our responses. We can provide you with a very helpful feedback loop.
If your expert does not want to “wade in,” then why did you print his or her comments?

Lieberman4Lieberman just happens to drop $387,000 in CASH, in the two weeks BEFORE the primary vote, and that’s “curious?” Ms. Medina, volunteers don’t get paid! That’s what makes them volunteers.

If these “volunteers” were actually employees, due to the level of control over their activities by the Lieberman campaign, then it would NOT be 1099 reporting. It would be FICA taxes, quarterly reporting and year-end W-2 forms, not to mention any state payroll taxes and workman’s comp requirements.

In addition to violating FEC regs, Lieberman4Lieberman appears to be violating State and Federal employment laws.

Ms. Medina, every major media outlet in the U.S. lines up to the right of wherever the New York Times draws the line. Right or wrong, that’s the reality. If you “pack it in” on this story, it won’t get the attention it deserves.

Sen. Lieberman knows who on his paid campaign staff, last had access to that $387,000. You can ask to talk with those people. There had to be lot of them. It takes a lot of work to give away $387,000 in cash in two weeks in increments of $100 or $150.

Please also recall the stories you printed on Primary vote day, August 8, blaming Ned Lamont for the failure of Lieberman4Lieberman’s web site. As you know, those stories, given to you by Lieberman’s campaign were completely false. Then Sen. Lieberman complains about the lack of bi-partisanship. You appear to be consistently allowing the Lieberman campaign to use you as a reporter.

Bold is mine.

What does accountability mean? Lindsey Graham says we should blame the generals (the guys Bush listens to) for the debacle in Iraq:

Sen. Graham Blames the Generals

“I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” — Princess Bride

TJ said: The Dems weren’t coming to campaign with Lamont because “Lamont is going to lose and the Dems will have to work with Lieberman after he wins.”

That’s circular logic and a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk. Instead the Dems have allowed Lieberman to fracture Connecticut and make a mockery out of our elective process.

Bill Clinton (who I now despise and the DCL crowd) have given aid and comfort to Joe while they hypocritically nodded to Ned and then refuse to support him. (I do not consider Wesley Clark, John Edwards, Howard Dean or John Kerry as part of the Dem leadership or powerholders).

And Rove’s money has allowed Lieberman to play two months worth of negative and untrue ads about Lamont. Not to mention the assist BushCo gave Lieberman by saying Lamont and his supporters were terrorist lovers and then launching an international terror alert.

After this election the Dem party will never get another my vote, my money or my time/talent. I think the netroots should totally boycott everyone in the Dem party except the progressive funded through ActBlue.

This is the end of the road for a 40 year Dem activist.

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

I doubt this will make any difference in the election. Breaking campaign finance law doesn’t even merit a blip on most people’s radar. I expect Lieberman will get a slap on the wrist from the FEC after he wins, but that’s it.

Lie-berman will stop at nothing to usurp the Democratic takeover of congress.

DSCC
DNC
Bill Clinton,

WHERE ARE YOU, CAN’T YOU UNDRESS THIS POSER

PS I thought Atlas Juggs would be Pammy too

TJ, there’s evidence at this point that he broke Federal and State employment law too.

If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk.

BS. If these Dem heavyweights couldn’t even swing the primary election, where only Democrats were voting, how could they possibly swing the general election, where the majority of voters will be independents and Republicans?

Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.

TJ @ 14

I doubt this will make any difference in the election. Breaking campaign finance law doesn’t even merit a blip on most people’s radar. I expect Lieberman will get a slap on the wrist from the FEC after he wins, but that’s it.

Tom Swan makes the great point that “petty cash” to RGJoe is probably more than Alan Schlesinger, the actual GOP candidate, will raise and spend in the entire general election. RGJoe will try to brush off this “technicality” the first, and probably second, times it’s raised in the debate this evening. I hope George Steph read my Spotlight!

TJ @ 17

If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk.

BS. If these Dem heavyweights couldn’t even swing the primary election, where only Democrats were voting, how could they possibly swing the general election, where the majority of voters will be independents and Republicans?

Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.

Well, first of all, we DO think about it, and mostly a lot. But secondly, the ARG poll shows Dems split 66% for NED and 34% for L4L. A clear Democratic show of support — not just the unity breakfast, but national Dems as well — would have shamed RGJoe to the corner he belongs in. And made real clear to low-information Democratic voters who the real Democrat is.

John Casper @ 16

TJ, there’s evidence at this point that he broke Federal and State employment law too.

TJ’s trolling, I doubt quoting the law is going to make any difference to him.

OT: Good grief. I’m listening to Taylor Marsh’s audio broadcast. She’s playing the Bush interview with George Stephanopolous (sp?). Just in the two minutes, he said:

- We have never been about staying the course in Iraq.

- He thinks it’s a great idea to have outside experts review the Iraq situation. He was referring, of course, to the Baker-Hamilton commission. Why he didn’t listen to any of the outside experts who have already provided input is not clear.

- When asked “Can you see any possibility that U.S. troops will leave Iraq before you’re out of office?”, he replied “No. Well, U.S. troops are leaving Iraq all the time.”

Even by the standards of politicians, he’s a moron.

oops, sorry.

Could someone eliminate my comment #146 last thread? It was left in moderation. It was long and by now more than irrelevant.

Lose this asshole.

ifthethunderdontgetya @ 20

John Casper @ 16

TJ, there’s evidence at this point that he broke Federal and State employment law too.

TJ’s trolling, I doubt quoting the law is going to make any difference to him.

TJ @
17

If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk.

BS. If these Dem heavyweights couldn’t even swing the primary election, where only Democrats were voting, how could they possibly swing the general election, where the majority of voters will be independents and Republicans?

Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.

If Lamont was able to dissuade Connecticut voters that Lieberman was a defacto Democrat, something that national Dems could have been very useful with, it would have helped him significantly.

Christ, people, think before you press “submit.”

A clear Democratic show of support — not just the unity breakfast, but national Dems as well — would have shamed RGJoe to the corner he belongs in.

“Shamed him into a corner?” What does that even mean?

And given that a “clear Democratic show of support” couldn’t even win the Democratic primary for Lieberman, why is it suddenly supposed to magically make a difference for Lamont in an election where most of the voters will not be Democrats?

Troll Juice in the Kool Aid today.

Christ, people, think before you press “submit.”

Can I get a rulebook update, please? If thinking is required, lotsa us are toast.

TJ @ 17

If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk.

BS. If these Dem heavyweights couldn’t even swing the primary election, where only Democrats were voting, how could they possibly swing the general election, where the majority of voters will be independents and Republicans?

Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.

We do think about this. Why don’t you think about this:

Currently Joe gets 34% of Dem votes and Ned 66%. If the party, and people like the Big Dog, came out strong for Ned and got his share up to where it really belongs, say 80%, since Dems are 34% of CT voters that would mean a 9.5% swing for Lamont. That’s enough to swing the election right there.

punaise @ 27

Troll Juice in the Kool Aid today.

It’s no substitute for real sugar.

“Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.”

You’re the one who’s not thinking it through.

Clinton, Gore, and others could have given Joe no choice, but to support Ned after the primary. They chose not to do that and that allowed Joe to leverage all the name recognition he got as Gore’s Veep candidate and soak up more GOP money.

Regardless of who wins in CT, Ned provided enormous support to Brown in Ohio and Casey in PA, because the GOP won’t support those Senate races anymore, financially.

We’re big tent here, we’re moving on.

Your throwing in the towell on Ned is pathetic and muddled thinking. He’s down, but he’s not down 17. If you have some practical reason

punaise-

check my commnet at 155, EPU’d from the previous thread. Gerundipity, my word!

TJ @ 3:49 pm (#26)

And given that a “clear Democratic show of support” couldn’t even win the Democratic primary for Lieberman, why is it suddenly supposed to magically make a difference for Lamont in an election where most of the voters will not be Democrats?

Your memory of that time is highly selective, if not downright delusional. A former U.S. President, and several U.S. Senators and Congressman endorsed Lieberman in the primary. In what universe is that a “clear Democratic show of support” for Lamont?

If the party, and people like the Big Dog, came out strong for Ned and got his share up to where it really belongs, say 80%,

And why are Democratic voters expected to listen to “the party” now when they didn’t listen to “the party” in the primary?

I haven’t yet heard an answer to that question.

ifthethunderdontgetya @ 30

punaise @ 27

Troll Juice in the Kool Aid today.

It’s no substitute for real sugar.

it was a hit song by the RGs:

Sugar, ah honey honey
You are my candy girl
And you’ve got me wanting you.
..
I just can’t believe the loveliness of loving you
(I just can’t believe it’s true)
I just can’t believe the one to love this feeling to.
(I just can’t believe it’s true)
Ah sugar, ah honey honey
You are my candy girl
And you’ve got me wanting you.
…

Jane Hamsher @ 25

TJ @
17

If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk.

BS. If these Dem heavyweights couldn’t even swing the primary election, where only Democrats were voting, how could they possibly swing the general election, where the majority of voters will be independents and Republicans?

Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.

If Lamont was able to dissuade Connecticut voters that Lieberman was a defacto Democrat, something that national Dems could have been very useful with, it would have helped him significantly.

Christ, people, think before you press “submit.”

Jane, did you and I just get suckered in to feeding a troll?

TeddySanFran @ 3:51 pm (#28)

Christ, people, think before you press “submit.”

Can I get a rulebook update, please? If thinking is required, lotsa us are toast.

Yes, when did that become a rule? I’m starting to suspect someone’s been rewriting it in the middle of the night.

scarecrow @ 11

What does accountability mean? Lindsey Graham says we should blame the generals (the guys Bush listens to) for the debacle in Iraq:

Sen. Graham Blames the Generals

“I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” — Princess Bride

My impression is that ownership of the Iraq mess lies with Bush, Cheney and both houses of Congress. To blame negative outcomes on bad advice is disingenuous and cowardly at best.

TJ @
26

A clear Democratic show of support — not just the unity breakfast, but national Dems as well — would have shamed RGJoe to the corner he belongs in.

“Shamed him into a corner?” What does that even mean?

And given that a “clear Democratic show of support” couldn’t even win the Democratic primary for Lieberman, why is it suddenly supposed to magically make a difference for Lamont in an election where most of the voters will not be Democrats?

If you’ve got a learning disability just say so and we’ll give you a pass, but the DSCC is not supposed to involve themselves in primary politics, and by in large they didn’t.

I haven’t yet heard an answer to that question.

Yessah Massa, I’m acomin’ just as fast as I can massa’

Morris Sheppard @ 36

Jane, did you and I just get suckered in to feeding a troll?

Yeah but every once in a while you’ve got to deliver one for the crowd.

Besides, I’m honored whenever Dangerstein stops by.

TeddySanFran @ 28

Christ, people, think before you press “submit.”

Can I get a rulebook update, please? If thinking is required, lotsa us are toast.

Nah, you’re as good as sliced bread. And Jane is just practicing. Well done.

Joe always had the ability to blackmail the party, but most assumed that he wouldn’t do it and would instead do the honorable thing once he got over his hurt and pride. What the party has now learned, if they didn’t know before, is that Joe Lieberman has no honor; he only cares about himself. When the guy behaves that way, there’s little the Dems can do except call out his lack of honor and lack of trustworthiness. That’s where courageous Dem leaders could help, but it does take courage, because Joe is essentially blackmailing them — the implicit threat to go Repub and/or vote with the Repubs on issues critical to Dems.

We should just keep pounding on Joe’s credibility and phony image, and not worry about the commenter.

TJ @ 17

If the Dem party had slapped Joe down in August and had fully supported the Democratic candidate – Lamont have won in a cakewalk.

BS. If these Dem heavyweights couldn’t even swing the primary election, where only Democrats were voting, how could they possibly swing the general election, where the majority of voters will be independents and Republicans?

Christ, people, try to think about this stuff at least a little bit.

Hmmm – What Dem heavy weights during the primary? Bill was the only one who showed up for Joe – and actually, his visit made a significant difference for Joe. He would have lost by a lot more than 4 points.

One of the only reasons why some Unaffiliated or Republicans are thinking about voting for Joe (and they haven’t walked into that voting booth yet) is that he claims he’s been told that he will get chairmanship of some key committees. CT residents want the “clout” that will bring. Running as an Independent against the rightful Dem nominee – why is anyone telling Joe he will be given chairmanships?

He also says he will caucus with the Dems – but he’s taking Republican & lobbyist money. That’s another reason why I would hope the Dem party would have some principles and take a stand on this.

TJ @ 34

If the party, and people like the Big Dog, came out strong for Ned and got his share up to where it really belongs, say 80%,

And why are Democratic voters expected to listen to “the party” now when they didn’t listen to “the party” in the primary?

I haven’t yet heard an answer to that question.

That’s because you haven’t asked that question until now.

Since Ned’s victory was fairly close, obviously a large percentage of Dem voters did listen to the party in the primary. I think a lot of those same voters would be persuaded to go with Lamont if the leadership made that point loud and clear.

Besides, I’m honored whenever Dangerstein stops by

ROFLMAO

Morris Sheppard @ 32

punaise-

check my commnet at 155, EPU’d from the previous thread. Gerundipity, my word!

well, it was getting a bit tense down there. someone darn near dangled a modifier. On the other hand, I don’t foresee Cool Hand Schlesinger calling for a syntax.

Little story that stays on topic:

Teaching my 8th graders today about campaigns/elections and the billions that get spent. The students feel that the money corrupts the process. (You don’t say!)

Anyways, playing devil’s advocate I say, “but it takes a lot of money to run a campaign, tv and radio ads, lawn signs, paying your volunteers…”

Half the class was on it like bees on honey: “YOU DON’T PAY VOLUNTEERS!”

13 year olds get it…

There are a handful of big Demo sluggers who could have really given a hand up to Lamont. And didn’t. I for one will not forget these irresponsible Dems.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 38

scarecrow @ 11

What does accountability mean? Lindsey Graham says we should blame the generals (the guys Bush listens to) for the debacle in Iraq:

Sen. Graham Blames the Generals

“I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” — Princess Bride

My impression is that ownership of the Iraq mess lies with Bush, Cheney and both houses of Congress. To blame negative outcomes on bad advice is disingenuous and cowardly at best.

I agree. I was just struck at how Sen. Graham “supports the troops.” And I’m trying to imagine what’s going through the minds of the Generals in Iraq and the Pentagon, particularly those who had concerns all along but stuffed it out of a sense of duty and obeying the chain of command. When you attack the General Staff, don’t expect them to defend you when the revolution comes.

Skilling sentenced to 24 years.

John Casper @ 45

Besides, I’m honored whenever Dangerstein stops by

ROFLMAO

he’s just flaunting his new body wax job

Good point, scarecrow @ 42. And let’s not forget, in your heart, you know he’s last.

punaise @ 46

Morris Sheppard @ 32

punaise-

check my commnet at 155, EPU’d from the previous thread. Gerundipity, my word!

well, it was getting a bit tense down there. someone darn near dangled a modifier. On the other hand, I don’t foresee Cool Hand Schlesinger calling for a syntax.

You and Jane at 41 with her “besides, I’m honored whenever Dangerstein stops by.” were funny enough to make me nearly split my infinitives laughing.

Morris Sheppard @ 53

punaise @ 46

Morris Sheppard @ 32

punaise-

check my commnet at 155, EPU’d from the previous thread. Gerundipity, my word!

well, it was getting a bit tense down there. someone darn near dangled a modifier. On the other hand, I don’t foresee Cool Hand Schlesinger calling for a syntax.

You and Jane at 41 with her “besides, I’m honored whenever Dangerstein stops by.” were funny enough to make me nearly split my infinitives laughing.

I’ll take that as a complement

so … when’s the debate and where can we watch it?

eager to see what happens next!

Joe’s been doing this long enough to know the rules. What an arrogant horses patoot to think he’s entitled to make up his own rules. I haven’t had a chance to catch up on all the details, so won’t comment beyond that, but oh my!Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Cujo unloads on Medina in the NYT’s:

Ms. Medina, you neglected to mention that this $387,000 was spent in the space of twelve days. That’s roughly $32,000 per day for “volunteers”, or 6,000 man-hours or 750 man-days at minimum wage. How many people were they paying off the books, so to speak, and for what? Snacks and pizzas?

It also seems preposterous to me that the Lieberman campaign can refuse to obey the spirit of the law, if not its letter, while insisting that his opponent do something that he is clearly under no legal obligation to do. It is even more amazing that the Times’ editorial staff didn’t take note of this.

Glad to see the NYTime’s sense of curiosity hasn’t been enhanced by the Judy Miller affair.

— Posted by Cujo359

TeddySanFran @
18

TJ @ 14

I doubt this will make any difference in the election. Breaking campaign finance law doesn’t even merit a blip on most people’s radar. I expect Lieberman will get a slap on the wrist from the FEC after he wins, but that’s it.

Tom Swan makes the great point that “petty cash” to RGJoe is probably more than Alan Schlesinger, the actual GOP candidate, will raise and spend in the entire general election. RGJoe will try to brush off this “technicality” the first, and probably second, times it’s raised in the debate this evening. I hope George Steph read my Spotlight!

Since the FEC probably won’t do anything until after the election, it actually makes it more incumbent upon journalists to get in there and see what they can find on this story.

Unless, like Atlas Juggs the NYT, they’re more concerned on what’s on the fucking IPod of someone who’s not even up for re-election and we’re two weeks outside of election day.

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Jane,

I don’t get Medina. WTF? What happened?

If you’ve got a learning disability just say so and we’ll give you a pass, but the DSCC is not supposed to involve themselves in primary politics, and by in large they didn’t.

And who pays any attention to what the DSCC says? Bill Clinton is at least a name a lot of people know.

Look, if people here just want to bitch about how they got screwed by the DC establishment, that’s fine and I’ll leave you to it. But for anyone who’s interested in the real reasons Lamont lost this election, this is a really good place to start:

http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..32/162#162

TJ @ 61

If you’ve got a learning disability just say so and we’ll give you a pass, but the DSCC is not supposed to involve themselves in primary politics, and by in large they didn’t.

And who pays any attention to what the DSCC says? Bill Clinton is at least a name a lot of people know.

Look, if people here just want to bitch about how they got screwed by the DC establishment, that’s fine and I’ll leave you to it. But for anyone who’s interested in the real reasons Lamont lost this election, this is a really good place to start:

http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..32/162#162

“Tom appeared on the sidewalk with a bucket of whitewash and a long-handled brush. He surveyed the fence, and all gladness left him and a deep melancholy settled down upon his spirit. Thirty yards of board fence nine feet high. Life to him seemed hollow, and existence but a burden. Sighing, he dipped his brush and passed it along the topmost plank; repeated the operation; did it again; compared the insignificant whitewashed streak with the far-reaching continent of unwhitewashed fence, and sat down on a tree-box discouraged. “

punaise @54

I’ll take that as a complement

Which is how it was meant, of course.

Atlas Juggs? Who’s been looking under my mattress?

TJ – Lamont hasn’t lost the election. Let’s just wait until November 8th. Clearly, you have no idea what’s going on in Connecticut.

Medina has editors who don’t want her to tell the truth.

Marion in Savannah @ 4:09 pm (#59)

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Yes, it does, but has anyone covered it in this century? I suppose you could add “Not Ready To Make Nice” to the list, too, along with “American Idiot”.

Throw “Won’t get fooled again” in there.
Cujo359 @ 67

Marion in Savannah @ 4:09 pm (#59)

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Yes, it does, but has anyone covered it in this century? I suppose you could add “Not Ready To Make Nice” to the list, too, along with “American Idiot”.

Gee I must be missing that paycheck for Volunteering ….. would of quit my day job!

Received an email from a friend when I sent the petition email to my address book

Hey, I spend $400,000 in petty cash every DAY! I don’t see what the big deal is… ‘Scuse me, I’m lighting my cigar with a Ben Franklin….

Of course my friend is in CT frequently and big Ned supporter too!

RAAAAAAAAAAAHHRRR!!

Get ‘em TOM SWAN!!

ATTACK!!

ATTACK!!

ATTAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

dab from CT @ 60

Jane,

I don’t get Medina. WTF? What happened?

Editor from hell?

Pachacutec @ 66

Medina has editors who don’t want her to tell the truth.

That’s one of the reasons I mentioned the editorial staff in my response. The other is that it just seems like the obvious ironies should have occured to somebody before that story was published, even if Medina wasn’t aware of them.

TJ at 4:12 pm, again, you’re the one who isn’t thinking it through. Look at the polls. Whatever “happened,” was after September 25, which contradicts the diary you linked to.

Ned’s behind, but especially with Iraq going south the way it is, he isn’t toast, by a long shot.

TRex @ 70

RAAAAAAAAAAAHHRRR!!

Get ‘em TOM SWAN!!

ATTACK!!

ATTACK!!

ATTAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

It was nice of you to bottle up some of what you’ve been drinking and send it to the campaign. I’m sure they appreciated it, TRex.

I just looked at C-SPAN’s website to see when they are showing the CT debate.

C-SPAN still has Lieberman listed as a (D)!

Check it out:

Debate
Connecticut Senate Debate
WTNH-TV
Joseph Lieberman , D-CT
Ned Lamont , D, Connecticut

http://inside.c-spanarchives.o…..=dschedule

Sure, Lamont can still win. And Bush can still find those WMDs!

Anyway, I’m outta here. Peace.

Pachacutec @ 66

Medina has editors who don’t want her to tell the truth.

Thanks Pach, that really helps. It also makes more sense.

Jane Hamsher @ 74

TRex @ 70

RAAAAAAAAAAAHHRRR!!

Get ‘em TOM SWAN!!

ATTACK!!

ATTACK!!

ATTAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

It was nice of you to bottle up some of what you’ve been drinking and send it to the campaign. I’m sure they appreciated it, TRex.

It’s just hi-test espresso with a shot of impatience.

OT Your daily gas and oil prices

Average price for regular gasoline 10/23/06 in 50 states and DC

$2.90 plus 1 state : Hawaii
$2.80 plus 0 states
$2.70 plus 1 state : Alaska
$2.60 plus 0 states
$2.50 plus 2 states
$2.40 plus 5 states
$2.30 plus 3 states
$2.20 plus 13 states
$2.10 plus 14 states
$2.00 plus 12 states

Average national price: $2.205, down $.013 from 10/20/06
Down 43.4 cents from same time last year.
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005

Highest average price: Hawaii $2.935
Lowest average price: South Carolina $2.049

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp

Nymex Crude Future $58.81, down $.52 from 10/23/06
Dated Brent Spot $57.27, down $.23
WTI Cushing Spot $57.06, up $.24

Gas prices continue to decline at an increasingly slow rate. There is a continued attempt to bid the oil market down. I don’t think this can be sustained but it probably will keep oil prices low (under $60/bbl) until near or after the elections. This will also have a general effect on gasoline prices.

There may be some negative speculation here and I may be underestimating the impact of the lack of confidence that OPEC can enforce production cuts. I tended to discount the announcement and took it as pretty much of a given that OPEC would be unable to enact meaningful cuts.

TJ @ 76

Sure, Lamont can still win. And Bush can still find those WMDs!

Anyway, I’m outta here. Peace.

Don’t let the door bang your ass.

*xyz @ 75

I just looked at C-SPAN’s website to see when they are showing the CT debate.

C-SPAN still has Lieberman listed as a (D)!

Check it out:

Debate
Connecticut Senate Debate
WTNH-TV
Joseph Lieberman , D-CT
Ned Lamont , D, Connecticut

http://inside.c-spanarchives.o…..=dschedule

For the remainder of the current session he’s a D. After that, not ; )

Cujo359 @ 67

Marion in Savannah @ 4:09 pm (#59)

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Yes, it does, but has anyone covered it in this century? I suppose you could add “Not Ready To Make Nice” to the list, too, along with “American Idiot”.

Damn! I keep forgetting we’re in a whole new century now! (Senility can be SUCH a bitch!) Well, as a card-carrying old fart I turned the radio off (except for classical) when disco happened. So count me as tabula rasa for 21st Century “music.”

Ned ought to show up at the debate with three things….

1) a couple of pages of HIS OWN petty cash ledgers

2) A CD with ALL his petty cash expenditures on it…

3) a list of some of Lieberman’s small campaign contributors…

then at the opportune time, pull out the papers and say

“Joe….you’ve been in the Senate for 12 years, you are supposedly “Mr. Ethics”….how come you had a $387,000 slush fund in the primaries. How come you can’t provide the legally mandated accounts that look like this (pull out papers). How come you can’t provide the legally required full accounting that I have on this? (pulls out CD.) Why can’t you show Jane Smith, who gave you $25 last April, or John Jones, who gave you $10 last may, that their money isn’t sitting in the bank account of your “advisors”, or was used to buy votes?

They’ve added a big ole’ bag of PETTY CASH to the KISS FLOAT.

The official Lamont blog has great pictures of this and the rest of the pre-debate rally!

http://nedlamont.com/blog/1916…..ss#comment

The candidate I am working my butt off for here in AZ could use some of that petty cash. He is one of the ignored house candidates….

Herb Paine for Congress

Laris Alexandrovna rips Preznint Pusbag a new one and casts an eternal pox on his bloodline today at HuffPo:

With a flip of the wrist, Bush signed into law the anti-Habeas Corpus, pro-torture law (cleverly repackaged as the Military Commissions Act of 2006), signaling with it the end of American democracy.

For the Bush family it was simply another day – like any other day – for the entitled nobility, who take from others that which does not belong to them.

The Bush dynasty was always filthy rotten, with not a single member of the imperial family ever doing an actual honest day’s work in their pathetic and miserable blue-blooded lives.

I think I *love* her!

TJ @ 76

Sure, Lamont can still win. And Bush can still find those WMDs!

Anyway, I’m outta here. Peace.

Whew! What’s that smell?

Somebody open a window!

The Kiss float has been updated in time for the Debate – it includes a commentary on today’s FEC complaint filing.

There’s a picture of it on the Pre-Debate thread on Lamont’s blog.

http://nedlamont.com/blog/1915…..1#cpreview

It’s an outrage. Congress persons get about $165,000 per year for working about 100 days annually.

No shit, what a jerk!
href=”#comment-346697″>ifthethunderdontgetya @ 80

TJ @ 76

Sure, Lamont can still win. And Bush can still find those WMDs!

Anyway, I’m outta here. Peace.

Don’t let the door bang your ass.

TRex @ 86

Laris Alexandrovna rips Preznint Pusbag a new one and casts an eternal pox on his bloodline today at HuffPo:

With a flip of the wrist, Bush signed into law the anti-Habeas Corpus, pro-torture law (cleverly repackaged as the Military Commissions Act of 2006), signaling with it the end of American democracy.

For the Bush family it was simply another day – like any other day – for the entitled nobility, who take from others that which does not belong to them.

The Bush dynasty was always filthy rotten, with not a single member of the imperial family ever doing an actual honest day’s work in their pathetic and miserable blue-blooded lives.

I think I *love* her!

Get in line, and no cutting! Even for 60 foot lizards.

Marion in Savannah @ 59

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Naturally I flipped at the mention of Eve of Destruction. Barry McGuire, who wrote and recorded the song, was one of the original New Christy Minstrels, which was a group managed and owned by my father-in-law. My wife still remembers them coming over for dinner all the time.

*xyz @ 83

They’ve added a big ole’ bag of PETTY CASH to the KISS FLOAT.

The official Lamont blog has great pictures of this and the rest of the pre-debate rally!

http://nedlamont.com/blog/1916…..ss#comment

It’s fabulous!

\Morris Sheppard @ 92

Marion in Savannah @ 59

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Green green, it’s green they say on the far sid e of the hill!

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Naturally I flipped at the mention of Eve of Destruction. Barry McGuire, who wrote and recorded the song, was one of the original New Christy Minstrels, which was a group managed and owned by my father-in-law. My wife still remembers them coming over for dinner all the time.

Ooops! The oil prices show changes from 10/20/06.

Nagourney and Van de Hei on the NewsHour talking about maybe a 12 seat pickup in the House. At the same time, they admit the Democrats are looking happy and the Republicans are depressed. Either these guys have an inside track or they’re stupid. You choose.

More pics of the Float. They’ve added a fantastic new slogan:

Stick with Joe and you’re stuck with Bush!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/n…..otostream/

Raven @ 90, “TJ” showed his rear on the last thread, so it wasn’t a surprise up here. There’s nothing I’d like to see now more than another HoJo mauling.

Let’s get ready to RUMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLE!

Oh. My. Goodness.

As I type, there are about 300 Lamont supporters going crazy outside the Garde Arts Theatre in New London, CT. I’ve been to an NBA Finals game before, and the excitement rivaled that.

Bagpipers led the candidate, supporters the kiss float and a ton of signs down the street, kicking off the evening. Here are some photos – more on the Flickr page – click to enlarge. Get fired up … everyone here is.

Video Coming within 10 minutes. Here’s quicktime while we wait for YouTube to process. (QT Link)

*xyz @
96

More pics of the Float. They’ve added a fantastic new slogan:

Stick with Joe and you’re stuck with Bush!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/n…..otostream/

It’s fantastic. We’re all pulling for you guys. Hopefully, I will see you all again before too long.

Morris Sheppard @ 92,

I didn’t know that about McGuire. Back in the day, when I was younger and all, I loved the New Christy Minstrels. Thanks for a good memory rush!

Joe Lieberman as Bush’s puppet, also from today’s rally for Lamont:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/n…..otostream/

raven @ 94

\Morris Sheppard @ 92

Marion in Savannah @ 59

Cujo359 @
13

Regarding that link, I like Senator Dodd’s iPod list. Here’s that link just in case:

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..e-doddpod/

What songs from this century could improve it significantly?

Green green, it’s green they say on the far sid e of the hill!

Eve of Destruction??? Somehow seems awfully au courant…

Naturally I flipped at the mention of Eve of Destruction. Barry McGuire, who wrote and recorded the song, was one of the original New Christy Minstrels, which was a group managed and owned by my father-in-law. My wife still remembers them coming over for dinner all the time.

And your comment is …?

scarecrow @ 49

Oklahoma kiddo @ 38

scarecrow @ 11

What does accountability mean? Lindsey Graham says we should blame the generals (the guys Bush listens to) for the debacle in Iraq:

Sen. Graham Blames the Generals

“I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” — Princess Bride

My impression is that ownership of the Iraq mess lies with Bush, Cheney and both houses of Congress. To blame negative outcomes on bad advice is disingenuous and cowardly at best.

I agree. I was just struck at how Sen. Graham “supports the troops.” And I’m trying to imagine what’s going through the minds of the Generals in Iraq and the Pentagon, particularly those who had concerns all along but stuffed it out of a sense of duty and obeying the chain of command. When you attack the General Staff, don’t expect them to defend you when the revolution comes.

A former JAG now Senator who votes for torture without habeas then blames Generals for continuing to follow the worst of orders in a lost occupation. Active duty Generals who cannot publicly defend themselves!
Lindsey, how low can you drag our country?

But no live feed of the debate????

dab from CT @ 98

Oh. My. Goodness.

As I type, there are about 300 Lamont supporters going crazy outside the Garde Arts Theatre in New London, CT. I’ve been to an NBA Finals game before, and the excitement rivaled that.

Bagpipers led the candidate, supporters the kiss float and a ton of signs down the street, kicking off the evening. Here are some photos – more on the Flickr page – click to enlarge. Get fired up … everyone here is.

Video Coming within 10 minutes. Here’s quicktime while we wait for YouTube to process. (QT Link)

Sorry – should have mentioned in my post above that the comment was by Tim Tagaris about the pre-debate events in Hartford

http://nedlamont.com/blog

Some great pictures

Hugh @
95

Ooops! The oil prices show changes from 10/20/06.

Nagourney and Van de Hei on the NewsHour talking about maybe a 12 seat pickup in the House. At the same time, they admit the Democrats are looking happy and the Republicans are depressed. Either these guys have an inside track or they’re stupid. You choose.

stupid

debate streaming.

http://www.wtnh.com

Morris Sheppard @ 102,

Raven’s comment got smushed up in the middle, but was:

Green green, it’s green they say on the far side of the hill!

(sometimes I drop my comment in the middle too by mistake…)

Nagourney and Van de Hei on the NewsHour talking about maybe a 12 seat pickup in the House. At the same time, they admit the Democrats are looking happy and the Republicans are depressed. Either these guys have an inside track or they’re stupid. You choose.

Thanks Hugh.

That sounds like the Barrons’ neocon wet dream projection to me.

Everyone else I have heard, starting with Charlie Cook yesterday on MTP, is that the Dem gain starts with 20.

This page has lots of information about live feeds from the debate, etc.

http://www.nedlamont.com/page/content/debate3hq/

I’m still trippin that you were at the Dead Movie! I love the part where the dude is bitching about the film being a ripoff and the other guy saying, “someday you are going to be realyy glad they did this”!

ifthethunderdontgetya @ 97

Raven @ 90, “TJ” showed his rear on the last thread, so it wasn’t a surprise up here. There’s nothing I’d like to see now more than another HoJo mauling.

Let’s get ready to RUMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLE!

ifthethunderdontgetya @
52

Good point, scarecrow @ 42. And let’s not forget, in your heart, you know he’s last.

What kind of a kooky picture is that?

;>)

…And what’s all this creative typing about ‘Lamont losing this election’? I think someone lost a month or two in their Lil’ Bratz desktop calendar.
I love it when people try pre-event post-mortems with their agenda showing… So 2003.

Thanks!

dab from CT @ 110

This page has lots of information about live feeds from the debate, etc.

http://www.nedlamont.com/page/content/debate3hq/

20 seats seems to be a good guess at this point- but that’s probably plus or minus ten. Goopers keep pointing to their vaunted GOTV machine as bein worth 4 points per race.

http://tinyurl.com/yaqrww

*xyz @
75

I just looked at C-SPAN’s website to see when they are showing the CT debate.

C-SPAN still has Lieberman listed as a (D)!

Check it out:

As I read it, the CSPAN schedule has the CT debate at 8:00 ET – other debates after that.

I surely hope that is right! For me in MN, that means in 29 minutes!

I hope I will be able to eat my dinner (and swallow) while this is going on! (just home from school)

Debate
Connecticut Senate Debate
WTNH-TV
Joseph Lieberman , D-CT
Ned Lamont , D, Connecticut

http://inside.c-spanarchives.o…..=dschedule

I guess the dope is still a Democratic Senator?
KathieinMN @ 116

*xyz @
75

I just looked at C-SPAN’s website to see when they are showing the CT debate.

C-SPAN still has Lieberman listed as a (D)!

Check it out:

As I read it, the CSPAN schedule has the CT debate at 8:00 ET – other debates after that.

I surely hope that is right! For me in MN, that means in 29 minutes!

I hope I will be able to eat my dinner (and swallow) while this is going on! (just home from school)

Debate
Connecticut Senate Debate
WTNH-TV
Joseph Lieberman , D-CT
Ned Lamont , D, Connecticut

http://inside.c-spanarchives.o…..=dschedule

i logged into what is supposed to be the WTIC live audio feed… but no sound… anyone else with this problem, or is it just me?

http://www.wtic1080.com/

g4 ibook, osx 10.4.8, safari

In Washington they’re saying the CT debate won’t be shown til 11pm :(

Guess I can get livestream at WTNH per Lamont blog. This is TV right?

raven,

The C-Span schedule you have shows the debate at 11 est.

works on a dell using Firefox
selise @ 118

i logged into what is supposed to be the WTIC live audio feed… but no sound… anyone else with this problem, or is it just me?

http://www.wtic1080.com/

g4 ibook, osx 10.4.8, safari

This from a president with an MBA. Has Bush gone completely bonkers?

Bush warns OPEC over rising oil prices

Tuesday 24 October 2006, 1:42 Makka Time, 22:42 GMT

George Bush, the US president, has warned the oil producing countries that high crude oil prices could “wreck economies” and reduce demand for their products.

“I would hope that the OPEC nations understand that high prices of oil could wreck economies, and if they wreck economies it means the purchasers will be fewer,” President Bush said on Monday.

Abstinence Joe would never go all the way and screw the voters, would he? just a flirt, a few smooches and some heavy petty.

Hugh @ 95

Ooops! The oil prices show changes from 10/20/06.

Nagourney and Van de Hei on the NewsHour talking about maybe a 12 seat pickup in the House. At the same time, they admit the Democrats are looking happy and the Republicans are depressed. Either these guys have an inside track or they’re stupid. You choose.

They’re stupid.

rwcole @ 114

20 seats seems to be a good guess at this point- but that’s probably plus or minus ten. Goopers keep pointing to their vaunted GOTV machine as bein worth 4 points per race.

Smart, realistic, as usual, rw. But that vaunted GOTV machine now includes me, and us, and millions like us. We’re the [anti-]Rove GOTV machine, and unlike his troops, we’re going to show up. And that’s worth some points too.

Debate Audio (via WTIC 1080AM)

If you use this URL in Windows Media Player or Winamp,
http://bdcast-infinity-wtic-am.....ty_wtic-am
it will go directly to the stream and start playing. I plan on recording it and posting it.

hi spazeboy and thanks!

Eureka Springs, AR @ 103

Lindsey, how low can you drag our country?

Sounds like Miss Huckleberry’s attempting to jump on the new Republiraq triangulationatin’ bandwagon.
Of course blame the generals who can’t say anything back publically, even though it’s like blaming a gunshot victim for not ducking fast enough.

Oh, yeah…F*ck Rush Limbaugh. When the revolution comes, you and me are going to party, punk.

punaise @ 123

Abstinence Joe would never go all the way and screw the voters, would he? just a flirt, a few smooches and some heavy petty.

Oh, I bow deeply in your general direction!

Isn’t that sort of from Monty Python?spazeboy @ 126

Debate Audio (via WTIC 1080AM)

If you use this URL in Windows Media Player or Winamp,
http://bdcast-infinity-wtic-am.....ty_wtic-am
it will go directly to the stream and start playing. I plan on recording it and posting it.

Marion in Savannah @ 129

punaise @ 123

Abstinence Joe would never go all the way and screw the voters, would he? just a flirt, a few smooches and some heavy petty.

Oh, I bow in your general direction!

raven @ 121

works on a dell using Firefox
selise @ 118

i logged into what is supposed to be the WTIC live audio feed… but no sound… anyone else with this problem, or is it just me?

http://www.wtic1080.com/

g4 ibook, osx 10.4.8, safari

tried firefox… still silent. argh!

Marion in Savannah @ 129

punaise @ 123

Abstinence Joe would never go all the way and screw the voters, would he? just a flirt, a few smooches and some heavy petty.

Oh, I bow deeply in your general direction!

well TJ left, so we have to do something to lighten things up around here… :~)

You know our new macbook pro’s have been having this gooofy audio problem that gets solved by launching Garage Band. Just a thought.

selise @ 131

raven @ 121

works on a dell using Firefox
selise @ 118

i logged into what is supposed to be the WTIC live audio feed… but no sound… anyone else with this problem, or is it just me?

http://www.wtic1080.com/

g4 ibook, osx 10.4.8, safari

tried firefox… still silent. argh!

spazeboy @ 126

Debate Audio (via WTIC 1080AM)

If you use this URL in Windows Media Player or Winamp,
http://bdcast-infinity-wtic-am.....ty_wtic-am
it will go directly to the stream and start playing. I plan on recording it and posting it.

That is an audio stream of what sounds like a call-in show at the moment. If you’re able to run xine from a command line, just type:

xine http://bdcast-infinity-wtic-am.....ty_wtic-am

and it will play the stream. If you don’t know what xine is, then you probably can’t use it. There is no Windows version. There is a Mac version, however.

Problem is that when Bushie was told who to listen to, he thought they said “genitals.”

After all, the only thing he listens to is his Dick.

If you don’t know what xine is, then you probably can’t use it.

wasn’t she the singer for X?

From My Left Nutmeg

Law enforcement officials and reporters trying to get to the bottom of Joe Lieberman’s illegal campaign slush fund may want to talk to Tom Lindenfeld of LSG Strategies.

Unconfirmed reports coming from people very well connected to Lieberman’s primary campaign are saying that every day a courier would arrive at Lieberman campaign headquarters with anywhere from $20,000 to $50,000 in cold hard cash for Mr. Lindenfeld to… well, what exactly he did with it is not known.

However, many of the expenditures that Mr. Lindenfeld’s “dynamic constituent and voter contact organization” would be responsible for seem to be already covered in the itemized lists from the campaign. So what’s with the extra 387 Gs?

Mr. Lindenfeld may be the best source for answering the 387 thousand dollar question

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh…..aryId=4046

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

selise -
If whatever you’re using has a ‘ticker’ ticking off seconds ‘connected’ that would mean you should hear audio. (I tried w/FF/XP, couldn’t ‘connect’ – figured server swamped, for the record.) Umm…you haven’t muted the speakers lately, right? Also, see Cugo’s ‘terminal’ solution at 134.

Clearly, TradMed’s gone mad. Now CNN is posting articles about the variable 2008 impact of HillDog using her maiden name, depending upon who she’s matched against. D’oh.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..index.html

raven @ 139

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

I’m confused – did Matthews in essence say that CT voters should vote against the war, i.e. for Lamont? Or did I misread the statement?

selise @ 131

raven @ 121

works on a dell using Firefox
selise @ 118

i logged into what is supposed to be the WTIC live audio feed… but no sound… anyone else with this problem, or is it just me?

http://www.wtic1080.com/

g4 ibook, osx 10.4.8, safari

tried firefox… still silent. argh!

Beats me. I’m on a Dell, with Firefox, and am listening okay.

TeddySanFran @ 141

Clearly, TradMed’s gone mad. Now CNN is posting articles about the variable 2008 impact of HillDog using her maiden name, depending upon who she’s matched against. D’oh.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..index.html

If you want to know more about TradMed – ask your doctor or pharmacist.

egregious @
120

raven,

The C-Span schedule you have shows the debate at 11 est.

That was my reply imbedded in Raven’s comment – (mea culpa mea culpa! – Couldn’t fix in the next 2 hours even if I had the time!) When I wrote that the debate was going to be on at 8ET, I had just checked the CSPAN site. Now I see they changed the order of debates in the last hour or so! Now Lamont is last! WHY??? Who and why this change in schedule in the hour or less??
Anyone?

Kathie

That’s what he said, “don’t come complaining after the election if you vote for Lieberman”.

dab from CT @ 142

raven @ 139

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

I’m confused – did Matthews in essence say that CT voters should vote against the war, i.e. for Lamont? Or did I misread the statement?

New thread gang.

dab from CT @ 142

raven @ 139

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

I’m confused – did Matthews in essence say that CT voters should vote against the war, i.e. for Lamont? Or did I misread the statement?

He looked straight into the camera and addressed the people of CT with that statement a couple of times today.

It’s a plot!

dab from CT @ 142

raven @ 139

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

I’m confused – did Matthews in essence say that CT voters should vote against the war, i.e. for Lamont? Or did I misread the statement?

He’s been saying that the whole time. He loves Ned.

raven @ 4:49 pm (#139)

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

Matthews is the emperor of Dipshitistan.

They replay Hardball so it was probably the same thing.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 148

dab from CT @ 142

raven @ 139

Mathews just called bloggers “Pajamahadine”!

I’m confused – did Matthews in essence say that CT voters should vote against the war, i.e. for Lamont? Or did I misread the statement?

He looked straight into the camera and addressed the people of CT with that statement a couple of times today.

Patrick 4/4 @ 144

TeddySanFran @ 141

Clearly, TradMed’s gone mad. Now CNN is posting articles about the variable 2008 impact of HillDog using her maiden name, depending upon who she’s matched against. D’oh.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..index.html

If you want to know more about TradMed – ask your doctor or pharmacist.

if election lasts longer than____

Blank Kludge @ 140

selise -
If whatever you’re using has a ‘ticker’ ticking off seconds ‘connected’ that would mean you should hear audio. (I tried w/FF/XP, couldn’t ‘connect’ – figured server swamped, for the record.) Umm…you haven’t muted the speakers lately, right? Also, see Cugo’s ‘terminal’ solution at 134.

was trying the pop-up from the website… no audio.

tried spazeboy’s suggestion with wmp and get “the host is unreachable”

speakers not muted.. other audio sources working fine. :(

don’t know xine, but will google now. thanks for the suggestions.

The WTNH feed is working!

punaise @ 8

Jane Hamsher @ 5

Teddy #3 — I am soooo impressed. You got the NYT to correct!

http://empirezone.blogs.nytime…..nnecticut/

awesome, TSF!

May I say how ridiculously proud I am to see so many fdl names at the NYT comments for this atrocity?

Teddy…Casper…Hope…Cujo…and if they don’t censor it, egr.

YAY FDL!!

Stephanapolis moderating. (sp)

Let’s see if they censor me. Will it be for saying Shame, or for using the words atrocities, neocon, and propaganda?

Not swear words, every inch the truth, but do they dare?

Schlesinger got the most noise!

To Leib: How would failure in Iraq affect the US?

“We all agree the government in Washington needs to be fixed. . .negativity couldn’t have done what I have accomplished. GS “So much fo no opening statement” The jerk did it again, ignored the rules.

“I am not prepared to fail. That’s the difference between me and Ned”

OKK – Cut him some slack, he’s finally Jawboning OPEC!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 122

This from a president with an MBA. Has Bush gone completely bonkers?

Bush warns OPEC over rising oil prices

Tuesday 24 October 2006, 1:42 Makka Time, 22:42 GMT

George Bush, the US president, has warned the oil producing countries that high crude oil prices could “wreck economies” and reduce demand for their products.

“I would hope that the OPEC nations understand that high prices of oil could wreck economies, and if they wreck economies it means the purchasers will be fewer,” President Bush said on Monday.

Ned, “It wasn’t bipartisanship to rubber stamp the war. . . We got our self in this mess becuase we didn’t ask enought questions. I think George Bush and Joe Liebermans “stay the course strategy” is a recipe for failure”.

Shels,”If you follow the record, partisanship is not the problem. . .

Question about Dodd’s support for ned, “I’m challenging Joe on the big issues”

Yes, it’s been 18 years and every day health care gets worse

Schels, “need structural change in health care.”

watch a $387,000 video.

http://www.liebermeforme.com