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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL: God Bless Barney Frank</title>
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		<title>By: Existential Ramble &#187; The Republicans and Gay Americans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-348111</link>
		<dc:creator>Existential Ramble &#187; The Republicans and Gay Americans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Hat Tips: Crooks and Liars Firdoglake Jesus’ General […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Hat Tips: Crooks and Liars Firdoglake Jesus’ General […]</p>
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		<title>By: A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; Are Gay Republicans Hypocrites?</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-348010</link>
		<dc:creator>A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; Are Gay Republicans Hypocrites?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] It is often amazing to me just how seriously some people can take themselves, how they can get so caught up in their own rhetoric so as to forget to look at the logic of their arguments. Recently, amidst the hue and cry over the Foley Follies, there emerged a threat to expose gay Republicans (no, not the “happy” kind) via “the List.” This, of course, led to the inevitable debate as to whether outing anyone was ever kosher or whether gay Republicans have it coming because they’re hypocrites. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] It is often amazing to me just how seriously some people can take themselves, how they can get so caught up in their own rhetoric so as to forget to look at the logic of their arguments. Recently, amidst the hue and cry over the Foley Follies, there emerged a threat to expose gay Republicans (no, not the “happy” kind) via “the List.” This, of course, led to the inevitable debate as to whether outing anyone was ever kosher or whether gay Republicans have it coming because they’re hypocrites. […]</p>
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		<title>By: StealthBadger.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TRex Opines.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-347285</link>
		<dc:creator>StealthBadger.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TRex Opines.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] And not only damned eloquently, but with a pretty unshakeable conclusion: The only reason that Mark Foley’s sexual orientation is germane to discussion of his being a sexual predator is because secrecy and repression lead to perversion and abuse like rain and sunshine lead to grass growing and flowers blooming. The kind of world the Republicans want where no one talks about what’s really going on is a playground for predators. The more closets there are in the world, the more damage will be done to young people and gay people of all ages. Period. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] And not only damned eloquently, but with a pretty unshakeable conclusion: The only reason that Mark Foley’s sexual orientation is germane to discussion of his being a sexual predator is because secrecy and repression lead to perversion and abuse like rain and sunshine lead to grass growing and flowers blooming. The kind of world the Republicans want where no one talks about what’s really going on is a playground for predators. The more closets there are in the world, the more damage will be done to young people and gay people of all ages. Period. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Political Waves &#187; The great ponderous elephant sitting on our chest</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-346481</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Waves &#187; The great ponderous elephant sitting on our chest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] God Bless Barney Frank  TRex &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ney-frank/&lt;/a&gt; [open link for video] […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] God Bless Barney Frank  TRex <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..ney-frank/</a> [open link for video] […]</p>
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		<title>By: Links&#8230; &#171; 4&#38;20 blackbirds</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-346309</link>
		<dc:creator>Links&#8230; &#171; 4&#38;20 blackbirds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Barney Frank defends the outing of gay social conservatives. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: TRex</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-346246</link>
		<dc:creator>TRex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;op99, good lord, woman.  You are too tedious for words.  If you had any idea what it&#039;s like to grow up gay in this culture or to have a gay kid, you would understand why it&#039;s too late for any compassion or respect to be shown to gays who work for the Gaybashing Old Party.  Why don&#039;t you just stick to commenting on issues you are qualified to discuss?  You&#039;re just embarrassing yourself now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>op99, good lord, woman.  You are too tedious for words.  If you had any idea what it&#8217;s like to grow up gay in this culture or to have a gay kid, you would understand why it&#8217;s too late for any compassion or respect to be shown to gays who work for the Gaybashing Old Party.  Why don&#8217;t you just stick to commenting on issues you are qualified to discuss?  You&#8217;re just embarrassing yourself now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-346245</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this drivel meant to be taken seriously?  I can’t imagine that it is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this drivel meant to be taken seriously?  I can’t imagine that it is.</p>
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		<title>By: op99</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-346242</link>
		<dc:creator>op99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Clearly you have’t that faintest idea of what it means to be gay. But you have a very clear idea of what sex is about in this culture, because you feel people like me are martians.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have an idea what it’s like to be a woman and to have other people try to force their reproductive agenda on me. I have an idea what it’s like to be an atheist and know that I would lose clients if I was vocal about that. So I have made a decision to be a loud and proud atheist, except not in front of clients. Perhaps that makes me a coward, but it’s MY CHOICE TO MAKE. Apparently, you seek to draft every gay into your war. I’d prefer to see an all-volunteer army. Your position is fundamentally undemocratic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Clearly you have’t that faintest idea of what it means to be gay. But you have a very clear idea of what sex is about in this culture, because you feel people like me are martians.</p>
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<p>I have an idea what it’s like to be a woman and to have other people try to force their reproductive agenda on me. I have an idea what it’s like to be an atheist and know that I would lose clients if I was vocal about that. So I have made a decision to be a loud and proud atheist, except not in front of clients. Perhaps that makes me a coward, but it’s MY CHOICE TO MAKE. Apparently, you seek to draft every gay into your war. I’d prefer to see an all-volunteer army. Your position is fundamentally undemocratic.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ehrenstein</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/22/late-nite-fdl-god-bless-barney-frank/#comment-346241</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ehrenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anne says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I don’t give a rat’s ass whether someone is or is not gay - it just does not matter to me.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Darling, that’s right up there with “The check is in the mail” and “I promise not to come in your mouth.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think there is something seriously wrong with people taking it upon themselves to decide for others what information must be public.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Do you now. Well I happen to be black. That infomation is immediately available upon meeting me.  And so is the fact that I’m gay.  Obviously the latter makes you very uncomfortable.  &lt;strong&gt;GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne says:</p>
<p>“I don’t give a rat’s ass whether someone is or is not gay &#8211; it just does not matter to me.” </p>
<p>Darling, that’s right up there with “The check is in the mail” and “I promise not to come in your mouth.”</p>
<blockquote><p>I think there is something seriously wrong with people taking it upon themselves to decide for others what information must be public.</p>
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<p> Do you now. Well I happen to be black. That infomation is immediately available upon meeting me.  And so is the fact that I’m gay.  Obviously the latter makes you very uncomfortable.  <strong>GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!</strong>
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		<title>By: howdyskippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>howdyskippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-346230&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Ehrenstein @ 267 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;They haven’t “decided for themselves” at all. They’ve let the culture do the deciding for them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clearly you have’t that faintest idea of what it means to be gay. But you have a very clear idea of what sex is about in this culture, because you feel people like me are martians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m 59 years old and I’ve been out and proud since high school (&lt;em&gt;Communist Martyrs High&lt;/em&gt;, class of ‘64)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you’re going to be a public personality (which is what politicians are) there is NO EXCUSE for being in the closet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for everyone else, there’s precious little excuse either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PERIOD!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is no excuse for being in the closet, except for their own personal prefference and that is a decision that IS NOT YOURS to make.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is laughable that as a gay man, you think you have a right to dictate how they should “be gay.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-346230"><em>David Ehrenstein @ 267 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>They haven’t “decided for themselves” at all. They’ve let the culture do the deciding for them.</p>
<p>Clearly you have’t that faintest idea of what it means to be gay. But you have a very clear idea of what sex is about in this culture, because you feel people like me are martians.</p>
<p>I’m 59 years old and I’ve been out and proud since high school (<em>Communist Martyrs High</em>, class of ‘64)</p>
<p>If you’re going to be a public personality (which is what politicians are) there is NO EXCUSE for being in the closet.</p>
<p>As for everyone else, there’s precious little excuse either.</p>
<p>PERIOD!</p>
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<p>There is no excuse for being in the closet, except for their own personal prefference and that is a decision that IS NOT YOURS to make.</p>
<p>It is laughable that as a gay man, you think you have a right to dictate how they should “be gay.”</p>
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