
(Today's book salon guest is Joe Maguire, who is a) author of Brainless and b) a former Reuters employee. His activities in "a" seem to have played a role in liberating him from "b." Please stop by in the comments section and welcome him — JH. Update: C&L now has an interview with Joe up here.)
Greetings, firedogs! Today for the FDL book salon, we welcome Joe Maguire, author of Brainless: The Lies and Lunacy of Ann Coulter. I have been reading Maguire's book this week and several revelations hit me at once.
I had a friend who was a stripper for a while. One Sunday afternoon, I went with her to Revco or CVS so she could stock up on some work-related supplies. She breezed right by all the things that I thought she would buy, Paul Sebastian hair products, perfumes and eux de toilette, and all the nice makeup. She went straight to the bargain stuff. Giant cans of Aqua Net, two-for-five-dollars lipsticks and nail polish, candy-smelling body sprays.
"Why are you getting the cheap stuff?" I asked her, "You hate this kind of stuff."
"I would never wear any of this stuff in real life," she said, "but for stripping, the cheaper the better. You go through it all so fast. See, TRex, men who go to strip clubs are not very smart. In fact, most men aren't very smart or observant when it comes to women. If your hair is long and blond, they think it's fabulous. If you put on makeup with a putty knife, to them, you look preeeeeeetty. If you smell like candy and flowers, you smell good. Why spend the money for the good stuff?"
Then she quoted Flannery O'Connor, "When teaching the blind, you must draw huge bubble pictures. When teaching the deaf, you must scream."
And yes, Flannery O'Connor-quoting strippers are not as uncommon as you would think. Especially in today's economy.
Ann Coulter is like a right-wing stripper. She's an empty black dress. When you read Maguire's book (and you should) and see a compendium of Coulter's statements piled up together in all their contradiction and unintentional irony, you realize that really, there's nothing there except a jumble of fiercely stupid assertions, a lot of hair-dye, a plunging neckline, and skirt slit up to her upper thigh.
"Why?!" any sensible person wonders, "Why is this brownshirt cheerleader even allowed out of the psych ward, much less ceaselessly paraded before the public? Why, why, WHYYYYY?! She's not smart, she's not funny, and (in spite of what men like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity say) she's not sexy. She's got a face like a horse and a figure like a ten-speed bicycle. Why the hell do people love her so much?"
Well, first of all, it's not "people" who love her. It's one very specific flavor of angry, frightened, bigoted Reich Wing asshole. They love her because she says all the heinous, hateful things that they think but aren't supposed to say. She articulates their paranoid, paternalistic world-view and they just lap it up like poisoned honey. That's her base, and everything she says and does is aimed at them. And that's why she's so completely alien to anyone with a functioning brain. We can't comprehend, for example, why she always wears the same dress because she's not wearing it for us. She's wearing it for the men who go to strip clubs. All they see is the naked skin on her thighs and chest. All they hear is their own pinheaded world view streaming out of her mouth.
So, when Coulter says things like, "(N)ot only should women lose the right to vote, but women's liberation has led to exhibitionism, promiscuity, sex toys, and adultery" and you feel like your head is going to explode because, obviously, women's liberation is the only reason Ann Coulter isn't barefoot and pregnant and permanently chained to a stove, you have to bear in mind that she's not speaking for women. She's not even speaking for herself. She's atriculating the secret, toxic misogyny that the men who read her feel. She's trying to sell books, nothing more. It's a purely commercial exercise.
And that's why she has been allowed to proliferate and spread through the media like a runaway case of genital warts. Large swaths of the media are entirely controlled by the very species of racist, classist, misogynistic old fucktard who reads her. Which is undoubtedly why Mr. Maguire lost his job for publishing his excellent book. Ann's people heard about it, made some phone calls, called in some favors, and hey, presto, Maguire was terminated.
I personally hope that Joe's book goes all the way to the top of the bestseller list and parks there for a good long time. Not only would it be a blow against the Reich Wing media juggernaut, but it would be the perfect vindication for him as an author. I want him to someday be able to say, "Fuck Reuters. Who needs those bitchez? I'm rich, rich, RICH!!" Hooray! Please, buy a copy today. We may not be able to do the massive coordinated buy-outs that conservative book clubs do to push Coulter's illegible, hysterical, fact-free screeds up the charts, but we sure can get the ball rolling.
Please welcome Mr. Maguire to firedoglake. He's here in the comments section today to answer your questions and discuss the book and I personally couldn't be happier to have him. He is a hero for free speech, a rational voice standing up to Coulter and her people's mindless hysteria, and a damned fine writer. Brainless is sharp and funny, a great read, and balm for the part of your brain that has been roughed up and insulted by years of Coulter's bullshit. You're NOT crazy after all. It's Coulter who's insane. She may sell a lot of books, but then again, so did Adolf Hitler. It didn't mean he was right. It just meant that he figured out which lies would win him the most admirers, and he worked that angle for all it was worth. Coulter is precisely the same species of evil totalitarian midget. She has hit upon a successful formula and she's going push the envelope until the culture finally rediscovers its collective gag reflex and pukes her up on the carpet with the other hairballs. Brainless, hopefully, is the beginning of that process.
Thank you, Joe, for coming! And thank you, readers, as always.
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Welcome, Joe.
Testing, one, two?
Thanks, TRex, for the nice intro — and thanks to Jane and everyone else involved for having me. It really is my pleasure.
Great intro Trex – and welcome to Joe!
I’m halfway through the book and fascinated! Folks really do need a copy … Joe knows snark and truth and communicates both.
Joe – could you say a bit about why you decided to take on Coulter?
Glad to hear you’re enjoying it, Siun. I hope you’re getting a giggle or two out of it, as well.
Welcome, Joe. We’re thrilled that you’re here.
giggling … and laughing loud enough to wake the house
you have a natural flare for snark and you use it so well
Why take on Coulter? Someone had to do it!
No — to be fair, many people (here at FDL and in other places) have been calling her on her BS for a long time now. I just thought it would be good to put it all together and really deconstruct her arguments, such as they are, in one central place.
At Barnes & Noble, of course.
So, Joe, when are you going on book tour, now that you don’t have to slave away in the Reuters salt mine anymore?
Thanks. It was about time I put my natural wise-assedness to good use.
Welcome Joe, thanks so much for being here.
Loving the literary pie in the face she so richly deserves.
Siun @ 4
I’m upto “Ann on Religion.” Very good stuff.
Ha! Well, the book tour thus far has consisted of my sitting in my apartment in sweatpants and a T-shirt doing dozens of radio spots across the country and stuff like this with you fine people.
Maybe you can call the folks at William Morrow and demand that they send me around the country — nay, the world — on a six-month promotional tour.
A darkblack gem!
Jane Hamsher @ 12
And unlike those Arizona students, Joe doesn’t miss.
Thanks for the thumbs-up, Matt O.
Joe — If I could draw your attention to this boneheaded passage from Ann Coulter on April 5.
As I emphasized in my post, she basically said only one person in this list was “indicted.”
DeLay was indicted last year. North was indicted, convicted, and later had it overturned, but that doesn’t null the fact that it was, indeed, an indictment.
So, Joe, to what do you ascribe Ann’s particular species of hateful lunacy? What on earth can have happened to her to make her this way?
Regarding the Reuters dispute, I have to say I could get used to being a man of leisure. Which is the nice way to say “shiftless layabout.”
TRex @ 16
Joe – I find it pretty interesting that someone with a solid background in financial reporting is the one to finally take on Coulter … but your willingness to actually track down things like bogus footnotes sure shows the kind of get the facts reporting that is missing from the political media at the moment.
Citizen Maguire:
Thanx for puttin’ yerself out there, I’m gunna get the book. Can you give us any understanding of the wheels inside the wheels of Reuters’ decision to let you go after your publication of this piece? Maybe your next book can be an autopsy of corporate media…
KEEP THE FAITH, ALL THEY GOT IS THE MONEY!!
Imagine that, Matt O. — an inaccurate statement. And one involving Joe McCarthy, to boot. (McCarthy, of course, being just the kindly, avuncular man we should all love.)
As for the origin of her “hateful lunacy”, as TRex put it, I think it’s a combination of things: At the perhaps overly simplified end, sibling rivalry as she tries to outdo two older brothers; and at the more complex (perhaps) end, what might really be a textbook case of narcissistic personality disorder.
John Amato says he’s going to have an interview with you up on C&L within the hour, Joe. Looking forward to it.
Well, Siun — I’m a journalist first, a financial journalist second. And trumping all that, I’m a person. And so when I see the tenets of journalism being shat upon, I take umbrage. No matter which asshole is the source.
Which, to answer NorskeFlamethrower’s question, is what makes the Reuters thing doubly disturbing. No matter how polarizing a figure Ann Coulter is, no matter how jokey and opinionated Brainless is, it speaks the truth. And THAT should be the first job of a journalist.
No matter how polarizing a figure Ann Coulter is, no matter how jokey and opinionated Brainless is, it speaks the truth. And THAT should be the first job of a journalist.
HEAR, HEAR!!
Joe Maguire @ 20
Blog comment troll who lives in a forest in order to watch the trees grow, publishes online from time to time, and eats only the darkest chocolate.
I should know!
When all is said and done, why is that Coulter enjoys popularity, at least among certain segments? I just don’t get. Is there a short answer? Of course, I ask, very infrequently, the same questions about Madonna and Britney Spears and a few others. When one gets down to it there doesn’t appear to be any “there, there”. So what’s the fascination?
Incidentally, one of the more disturbing things about Ann Coulter (and her book publisher and syndicate, as well) is her “the rules don’t apply to me” attitude about accurate sourcing and attribution — the hallmarks of good journalism.
The fact is, if you’re published weekly in 100 newspapers around the country, you’re a journalist, whether you want to be or not. And the rules DO apply to you.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 29
It’s like I said in the post, Hitler sold a lot of books, too. When you feel no compunctions about lying your ass off, you can say whatever it takes to make money.
Siun @
22
Seconded. Speaking truth to power, if you’ll forgive the cliche, seems to coming from quarters you wouldn’t expect. Reuters financial reporter, former sportscaster…
Congratulations, Joe, on having such exquisite aim!
Congratulations, Joe, on having such exquisite aim!
Indeed.
Welcome Joe.
I’m a lurker here but just had to jump in and ask why your “letting go” by Reuters wouldn’t be a juicy case of wrongful termination about 200 lawyers would die to take on contingency.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 29
Simply put, she gives voice to the bigotry and hatred that many people on the right can’t (without retribution) give voice to themselves. Let’s face it, if you’re a conservative politician, you can’t call Muslims “ragheads” and expect to be elected. You want people who use such terms to vote for you, of course, and so you let Ann Coulter do it for you — and draw the ire.
A comparison to Keith Olbermann? How flattered am I right now?!?
About a possible wrongful-termination suit, let’s just say that my lawyer is about to have some fun.
Narcissistic personality disorder — hm, now that’s interesting. DSM-IV says that is “a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy,” which seems to fit. This site suggests that it is caused by “very early affective deprivation” and is probably an irremediable condition.
Joe, how do you arrive at this conclusion? Is this based on something about her family history?
About a possible wrongful-termination suit, let’s just say that my lawyer is about to have some fun.
I’m glad to hear that. If there’s anything we in BlogLand can do to help out, please let us know.
I thought you section about Coulter and Kanye was really good at demonstrating how she works and how she knows precisely which buttons will connect with racist thinking, etc ….it’s a scary skill and it’s so important to have it called out as you did!
Of course, I also love that section coz I am not among the 37 but we won’t get into that!
Joe Maguire @ 36
it’s great when one enjoys one’s work
keep enjoying, and we’ll encourage all three of you
(Folks – remember you can click the Amazon link on FDL to buy Joe’s book – supports FDL and Joe in one click!)
Buckeye Hamburger @ 37
Well, she clearly has all the symptoms of the disorder. As for her family history, I point to a variety of authoritative sources on things such as birth order, her being the only female child, etc. as possible contributing factors. But the fact is, I’m not a psychologist (nor do I play one on TV), and so it’s hard to put things in concrete terms.
But it’s probably a safe bet to say that a domineering father (who was a “union-busting” lawyer, for good measure), combined with the above — and throwing in a privileged upbringing — and you’ve got a recipe for “me, me, me.”
My favorite chapter title in the book is Chapter One, “Annoyance Starts With Ann”. That about says it all, I think.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 23
I’d like to second that thought. What is going on with our corporate media and the journalists that once asked difficult questions of those in charge? It does seem to be somewhat similar to the talking head show producers that give someone like Coulter a platform. Is there any hope “journalism” will return to major news organizations? Or are we doomed to be spoon-fed FOX-lite on every channel and in every paper for the foreseeable future?
I was esp. disappointed that it was Reuters who did the deed – I’d always respected them as a better source than the usual but this will end up hurting them more than Joe I hope … in many ways.
TRex @ 43
Well, you gotta have a little fun!
One of the things I noticed about Ann a long time ago is that she and Tonya Harding have the same eyes. Even when their mouths are shut, they look like they’re screaming.
I think Joe has a great future as a blogger actually – he knows how to combine the serious fact checking (which we do do!) with the fun!
and the book is sooo much fun to read … laugh out loud fun
Trex@47 – nightmare image! egads!
Joe, have you had any direct, eh, “feedback” from the blond one in last night’s cocktail dress?
I’ve never read Coulter- my impression is that her books are simply full feature length bashes of invented opponents. Does she ever actually take a position that one could attack?
TRex @ 47
Yes, agreed. One can definitely see something swirling, dark and pinched-off looking back at you.
Siun @ 49
She really is the Tonya Harding of the pundit class. Here she comes to whack you across the knees with another brain-dead argument!
Hey, Siun — I really appreciate it. I think the fun in reading it comes from the fun in writing it. The opportunity to call out Ann Coulter on her crap was a great time.
Reading her four most recent books, on the other hand, was what one person recently compared to a stunt worthy of the “Jackass” movies.
I assure you it was far more painful.
Somehow, stapling my elbow to a 2X4 seems mild compared with fact-checking “Slander.”
I would just like to add my voice to the “Thanks, Joe!” chorus and add that I hope your lawyer has lots of fun :-)
TRex @ 47
I suspect that Ann would welcome the opportunity to kneecap a few people who get in her way, too.
I have a colleague (a prof, no less) who adores Coulter. I think it’s for the reason Joe states — these are guys who really think the stuff she says, but are afraid (in public, but not always in private) to say it. The guy I’m talking about always made me feel like I’d climbed out of a cess-pool after talking with him for any length of time. It’s really weird, and for the life of me I can’t understand what turned him into a fascist. I just can’t. Some kind of lumpenproletarian hatred, I guess. He was denied tenure at Dartmouth.
TRex @ 31
Good point… so considering how dangerous this type of behavior is (lying in print through major media outlets) what’s the consequence of such actions? If she keeps getting away with it what’s to stop others from lying and not facing negative consequences bush .
Somehow, stapling my elbow to a 2X4 seems mild compared with fact-checking “Slander.”
I used to work at a bookstore chain which shall remain nameless (*cough*BORDERS!*cough*) and one morning I was there and tired and irritable and I walked by a huge pile of copies of “Slander” and before I knew what I was doing, I had actually punched one in the face. There was just something about her smug, bitchy, rich-girl expression that lit up something primal and atavistic in me.
If only she could have been there in person. I would happily have broken her jaw.
rwcole @ 51
The beauty about Brainless (if I may be so bold) is that now you don’t HAVE to read Ann Coulter’s rubbish to be informed about her lies and lunacy. Brainless is your short-cut.
Seriously, you DO NOT want to read her books. Unless increased blood pressure and the urge to throw books through your picture window are your idea of a good time.
TRex @
16
Hey, in defense of the students at my alma mater, they still managed to show the harpy cowering in fear of a shaving cream pie.
Welcome Joe. I’ve purchased your book (and congratulations), but haven’t had the chance to read it yet, I’m afraid.
TRex @ 2:43 pm (#38)
I think if there’s any justice left in our justice system, this case should get a hearing. Toadying to power, if that’s what this really is, should be something that no journalistic institution would be caught dead doing.
Some people are attracted to negative energy because they are constantly filled with their own anger and resentment and need the reinforcent.
Cujo359 @ 62
Well, whatever happens, happens. The fact is, the dispute has been the best thing to happen to this book.
And whether I’ve been caught up in the aftermath of Reuters’s fake-photo scandal or if Ann herself got to someone (which I doubt) is a matter of debate.
Joe Maguire @ 35
I think you have nailed something very important. My surfing through the blogosphere over the past four years leads me to believe that she and her ilk do the dirty work for those that get elected. They hit the notes that trigger our reptilian brains but might or would surely raise some hugely negative responses if they were voiced by those running for office. It seems to me much of the leftish or progressive blogosphere folks do not serve this purpose and are not deliberately serving it for profit, however popular their blogs.
I’ll be buying the book soon and look forward to reading it.
Joe,
Have you sent a signed copy of your book to Ann? If not, I hope you will.
Really, what does it say about our society that Joe Maguire can get fired from Reuters for calling out a shrieking, venomous waste of perfectly good oxygen, yet the likes of Joe Klein keep their jobs?
And I won’t even comment on Katie Couric’s colonoscopy.
Knut Wicksell @ 57
Well that’s the scary part isn’t it? There is a lot of hate, intolerance and bigotry out there smoldering not so below the surface and mightily frustrated by “political correctness”.
This is the Republican constituency.
dwwenz @ 66
I’m hoping to hand her one in the green room before we debate on Bill Maher’s show. (No — I haven’t been booked yet. I’m just hoping!)
Actually, I gave a talk on free speech the other night at the People for the American Way here in New York, and they were kind enough to reserve a seat for her. It was raining pretty hard — I think she might have been stuck in a cab in traffic, and she didn’t make it.
Joe Maguire @ 69
Melting…melting…
Just for accuracy’s sake, Tonya’s didn’t do the whacking herself. It was Shane Stant — hired by Shawn Eckhardt and Tonya’s ex-husband Jeff Gillooly — who did the actual deed to Nancy Kerrigan.
After the Democrats take back this nation next month and in 2008, will we hear less, or more from this hottie babe, Coulter, in the future?
Sets the pretty sentences up on the mantlepiece to admire.
Shiny.
So, what are your future plans, post your world book tour of radio phone ins and fun with discovery in the metaphorical bowels of the Reuters organization?
watertiger @ 67
Disclaimer: I will never confuse myself with Bob Woodward.
But why is it that the Washington Post is more than happy to splash its name all over a book like “State of Denial”? I mean, it doesn’t get more slanted than that, does it?
One of the conditions I agreed to when I wrote “Brainless” is that I wouldn’t associate the Reuters name with it at all — thus making it an entirely personal endeavor. If Reuters thinks a corporate code of conduct can govern a personal endeavor, I wonder how they feel about CEO Tom Glocer’s recent comments that Dubya sees things in Manichean black and white, while he (and other at Reuters — and, yes, he invoked teh Reuters name on Charlie Rose) “live in a more complicated world”?
I wonder if Glocer has met with HR yet?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
Personally, and I say this with caution, I think Coulter may have jumped the shark this last summer when she went after the 9/11 widows. After that, her book sales halved every week that the book was on the charts. I think she has alienated all but her most stalwart fans, so we may be seeing the Twilight of Coulter.
We live in hope. And failing that, there’s always the chance she’ll OD and aspirate her own vomit and die. That notion makes me go all warm and fuzzy inside.
boadicea @ 73
Future plans?
Well, I should really clean my apartment. It’s filthy.
After that, I think I’m gonna give this book-writing gig a shot. Of course, I’ve gotta convince William Morrow that my next idea (whatever that may be) is worthwhile.
TRex says:
I look at pictures of her and I think she is the perfect expression of “GOP pretty.”
It was Bob Adams who said that “a liberal 2 is a conservative 10 — no wonder they hate us.” No woman with any self-respect could adopt a world-view in which women are just so many piles of useless garbage, hence the beauty that comes from within just doesn’t.
Most self-respecting women like to think that with the right lighting and makeup, and if we’re feeling upbeat and positive and doing something we feel good about, we can hit a liberal “6″ or “7″. But even when we’re feeling sick and bloated and flu-ridden and catch a glimse of our ashen-skinned selves in the mirror as we reach for the TheraFlu, it’s somewhat comforting to know we’d still be a ‘10′in the eyes of the GOP.
Trex – I prefer to think she’s holed up at one of her many houses reading Joe’s book and developing massive writers block and stage fright … I sorta like the idea of her cowering somewhere afraid of the light.
watertiger @ 67
Oh do.
Great job on the book–I hope it’s a huge success. What surprised you the most once you really started studying her work?
After that, I think I’m gonna give this book-writing gig a shot. Of course, I’ve gotta convince William Morrow that my next idea (whatever that may be) is worthwhile.
Ooh! Ooh! You should go after Michelle MalKKKin next! I’ll help!
On Ann’s looks: Let’s just all agree that she’s no Jane Hamsher, shall we?
Disclaimer: I will never confuse myself with Bob Woodward.
How do you look in a tux, cocktail weenie in one hand and a martini in the other, while laughing it up with the Secretary of State at a dinner your paper has thrown in her honor?
[alright, to be fair, that was the New York Times]
Except that if I were to draw the eye of the GOP myself, I’d only be tempted to poke it out.
With a spork.
Joe Maguire,
I can’t imagine reading a whole book about this woman, even if was the best profile written in the past fifty years. But, I’m glad you did it. Good luck with your next gig!
A couple of months ago, the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska’s largest circulation paper, had an article about Coulter making the media rounds, on the front page. I wrote a letter to the editor complaining about treating her as real news, when she’s nothing more than gossip column fodder.
I called her a “slut” in the letter. They phoned me and told me I had to change the term. I brought the subject up here at firedoglake, where commenters came up with several brilliant solutions, most of them hilarious. The one I used to replace “slut” was “meretricious purveyor of calumny.”
Jane Hamsher @ 79
No pun intended, right? ;-)
Coulter and many other “conservative” rock stars were born during the great blow job scandal. Their style and emotional attitude were the result of out of power goopers who were frustrated with liberals in power.
The fact that most people are now frustrated with goopers in power totally changes the emotional dynamic. The conservative rock stars- who once were agents for change- are now sorry assed apologists for a failed “movement”. No way they survive this- they’re toast- throw Rush on the same fire- he’s done too.
No way they survive this- they’re toast- throw Rush on the same fire- he’s done too.
Yeah, but stand clear of the grease-spatters.
LoneStarLiberal @ 80
As sad (and disturbing) as it sounds, what surprised me most is just how good Ann Coulter is at masking the lies. Her ability to hide the true source of the “information” she uses is astounding.
Which is not to pat myself on the back for peeling back the layers, because it really took some luck/serendipity to discover some of the more pernicious lies. I mean, her propaganda is downright Goebbelsian. (I just made that word up.)
Them turkeys practice “Gobbleism”.
ET – I was sorta not looking forward to reading Joe’s book – I hate Coulter and thought it would be like penance you know … but instead I sat howling with laughter (and scaring the pitpup) … you would serious enjoy this one – and get great ammo for your next letter to those editors!
TRex @ 88
Old Faithful’d have nothing on that geyser.
Lardorama!
Joe Maguire @
82
I move for unanimous consent.
Siun @ 91
Gotta admit, there’ve been dozens of LOL’s in this comment section, and it is just crankin’ up. I swear if Ann Coulter didn’t exist, TRex would have to go out and invent her……
The first thing that attracts me to a woman is how well her brain functions and how well it connects to her mouth. Not, God forbid, that I would ever have the opportunity to be with the lovely Ann, but I would, if necessary pay money, large money, if required, NOT to have a dinner date with Ms. Coulter’s brain and/or mouth. Coulter’s overall attribute for me, at least, is one of un-attractiveness.
Buckeye Hamburger @ 94
I second. No contest.
Looking forward to reading this book.
Joe, any final surmises and conclusions about Ms. Coulter’s love affair beyond the grave with one Joseph P. McCarthy?
I must admit, one of the things I struggled with in writing this was the sense that somehow I’m feeding the beast that is Ann Coulter’s “success.” That paying any attention to her at all is exactly what she wants. The more polarizing she is the better.
But on some level, I considered it my civic duty to stand up and say, “She’s full of shit.” Which sounds more high-minded than it really is. I mean, as we determined earlier, I really just needed an outlet for my snarkiness. And what better target?
Oklahoma kiddo @
96
Well we know you’re not Don Sherwood writing under a pseudonym.
The thought that you’d still be attractive to the GOP world doesn’t carry much comfort when you think of who you’d be stuck with.
Thanks for answering that question at 80–fascinating that she’s so good at hiding her tracks.
Any sense of whether people really getting tired of her act? And, I know that this is one of the hardest things in book publishing right now, but are you working with your publisher to get the word out on your book? Any exciting reviews on the horizon?
Peterr @
15
…Collect them all
;>)
Thanks, Peterr.
Big ups to Joe Maguire.
Hello Mr. Maguire.
With all the snarkiness/fun in this thread, can you hear the underlying growl from the deep well of anger toward the media enablers that legitimized her hatespeech? Extend that out to all the Coulters, the Limbaughs, et al.
GRRRRRR.
Thanks so much for going where angels fear to tread in researching this book.
LoneStarLiberal @ 101
I definitely think people are getting tired of her. When even Bill O’Reilly (man, it hurts to even TYPE his name) gives her the business, you know her days are numbered. And maybe it’s my imagination (or wishful thinking), but I feel like I’ve seen a bit less of her on the tube lately.
Re: promotion — it’s rough out there. I’ve done a ton of radio and have made an appearance or two, but getting on Maher or “The Daily Show” or “Countdown” is a tough nut to crack. Hopefully, Monsieur Olbermann (who is next week’s guest here, I think) will look kindly on a young pup such as myself and book me.
Audrey @ 103
Audrey — thanks. But if you call me “Mr. Maguire” again, I’m gonna ask TRex to banish you.
Well, y’all, this is fun, but I’m about to have to saddle up my hoss and drive back to Athens in time to get my late nite post up. Thank you all for coming and thank you Joe for your excellent work.
Cheers!
I’d suggest we do a bit of spotlighting of this post to some choice media outlets … help the cause, eh?
Joe Maguire @ 54
I hope you at least got reimbursed for the purchase price. Or checked them out at the library.
rwcole @ 63
rwcole -
so true! Glenn Greenwald wrote about authoritarians’ psychological make-up in his usual thorough manner. Somewhere in there (I think) he touched on this facet of the Reich Wing.
When I observe the intense affect (elevated in intensity, though certainly not in spirit), the pressured speech, flight of ideas, grandiose beliefs, and paranoid delusions Coulter puts forth, I can’t help thinking of diagnositic criteria.
I’m not big on diagnosis at a distance, and I would not attempt to clincally assess Coulter in any event. Blergh.
What strikes me is how the symptom profile I see in acute manic episodes – angry mood; loud and rapid speech; a flow of thought which abruptly jumps from one topic to another; grandiose beliefs; paranoid delusions – has become a normal “character” on the talking head shows.
Every med school I’ve been around has lots of great physicians who happen to have bipolar disorder; I know lots of wonderful people who happen to have bipolar disorder. I’m not saying there is anything wrong with or bad about folks with bipolar diagnoses or symptoms.
But the cardinal aspect of manic-depresssive disorder (bipolar disorder) is intense fluctuation in mood (emotional state).
The talking head shows (monomaniaical like O’Reilly or multimaniaical…) I see seem to build a stable group dynamic that fosters open-ended display of what – in mental health clinic – would be regarded as untreated symptoms.
I try and have compassion for the duped MSN viewers who are in such emotional distress that they resonate with the Goopers’ dysphoria. When I look at the consequences of the dupes’ votes, the compassion is harder to find.
Nevertheless, I hope the progressive media mavens are cognizant of the proportion of dysphoric voters (among the electorate) and find a way to craft messages which will turn the dyphoria against the goopers’ blunders and crimes.
Joe Maguire @ 99
So glad you hit it, Joe Maguire. Thanks for your book and your work – hitting this “cultural icon” of gooperdom is fighting the Good Fight.
Good luck with the apartment!
TRex — My pleasure, for sure. And if I steal your Malkin idea and it works, beers are on me.
Trex – drive safe!
and Joe … while Coulter may fade a bit (and I think your book will help that trend), her ilk seems likely to stay. That’s why calling her out is so important…
I’m thinking of your comment about wondering if a book would just feed her attention appetite but I think a big thing we’ve learned here at FDL is that we *must* call them out – otherwise, they are presumed to be legit.
I’m glad you made the same call.
Joe Maguire @ 105
Audrey — thanks. But if you call me “Mr. Maguire” again, I’m gonna ask TRex to banish you.
Okey dokey, Joe! *G*
Joe Maguire @ 99
If nobody ever calls bullshit, you can bet nobody will ever hear them do it. Better you than me, though, and I hope you can afford the years of therapy you’re going to need after reading the entire Coulter canon.
Well, it might not be, but she still LOOKS like a gender reassignment.
EvilDrPuma @ 113
Joe Maguire @ 99
I think what Audrey says in 103 is important in addressing this.
When I decided to take on Kate O’Beirne (fondly referred to around this place as “Ole 60 Grit”) I knew we couldn’t remove her from the conversation all together, there were too many with an appetite for that kind of crap and too much money behind putting it out there. What we could hope to do was embarass those like Chris Matthews who continuously legitimize her eliminationist rhetoric by giving it a voice in the mainstream, and banish her to the wingnut ghetto.
It’s what we can hope for right now, and I believe that books like yours can play a part in doing that. Let her survive on Fox News oxygen, preaching to the choir. And get her the fuck out of the homes of the normal.
“Ole 60 Grit” makes me laugh every time.
Jane — I totally hear you. Given how clearly shameless Ann Coulter is, the best we can hope for is to shame others into ignoring her.
I second the “jumped the shark” theory. I just hope that doesn’t hurt sales for Joe’s book and therefore hurting it’s chances for educational/theraputic conversion.
Also I’m surprised no one’s mentioned how blatantly unhappy she seems/is. It’s right there.
Coming in late, but Joe McGuire, your comments here say a lot about you and make me look forward to reading the book, which I am about to buy. Best of everything to you in the future.
In honor of Joe’s book, I’d like to share this sketch I wrote some time back. Hope you like it.
INT. COFFEE SHOP-DAY.
Three friends, TOM, FRANK and SARAH, all in their thirties are sitting and having coffee. Frank is looking at a newspaper. Suddenly, something catches Franks eye.
FRANK
Aw, son of a bitch!
SARAH
Whats wrong?
FRANK
It’s Ann Coulter. She’s screaming about how the Nine-Eleven widows are happy that their husbands are dead.
SARAH
Aw, geez.
TOM
Is there a photo?
FRANK
No. She’s calling them self obsessed millionaires reveling in their status as celebrities. Forget the fact that they helped push for hearings on Nine-Eleven when the White House didnt want them. God, she’s awful.
SARAH
Terrible person.
FRANK
Worst person I’ve ever seen.
Pause. Frank sips his coffee and sets the cup down.
TOM
(Quietly.)
I’d still do her.
Frank and Sarah look at Tom.
FRANK
Hang on a sec.
(Takes his cup and puts it too his lips.)
Could you repeat that.
Frank takes a sip.
TOM
I said I’d still do her…
Frank executes a perfect Danny Thomas style spit take.
TOM
What?
FRANK
Did you order the doughnut with the crack sprinkles? This is Ann Coulter we’re taking about!
TOM
Yeah, dude, she’s hot.
FRANK
Stop saying that! You’re putting me off my cheesecake.
TOM
Well, she is.
SARAH
Honey, is everything all right between you and Karen?
TOM
Everything’s fine. I’m saying it hypothetically. She’s hot.
FRANK
You know, I am so torn about who’s eyes I should be gouging out right now. Mine or yours.
TOM
You are being so P.C. about this. I’m not talking about marrying her. I’ts just sexual.
FRANK
It’s Ann Coulter! This is a woman who claims that all Liberals are trying to destroy America! This is a woman who when Senator John Murtha came out against the war, said this was why soldiers invented fragging! This is a woman who continued response to logical discourse is manic behavior and badly executed sarcasm. And your response to all this is to stroke it like a frenzied monkey?
TOM
Yeah. Pretty much.
Frank slaps his head.
FRANK
Tell us the truth, Tom. You’re our friend and we still love you…have you turned to the Dark Side?
TOM
Dude, I’m still a liberal. I think what she says is awful. But this ain’t about politics.
SARAH
Then what is it about?
TOM
Her hot ass.
FRANK
That’s it! I’m gouging my eyes out!
Frank tries to grab his fork but Sarah stops him.
TOM
Are you telling me that you’ve never looked at Ann and thought about giving her the old Pelvic push?
FRANK
Well…wait a minute. Who calls it the pelvic push?
TOM
I do. I’m trying to see if it catches on.
SARAH
Trust me. It won’t.
TOM
You didn’t answer my question.
FRANK
All right, a few years ago I was channel surfing and I came across her on a cable news show. And when I first saw her, I’ll admit, I thought she was hot.
TOM
A-ha.
FRANK
But then she started talking and my desire to bang her was replaced by my desire to dig out my genitals with a pointed stick.
TOM
But for that minute, you would have banged her but decided against it because of her beliefs. You know what I’d call that?
FRANK
Depth of character?
TOM
Denial of self. You chose to deny that primal part of yourself because you were afraid that you were somehow betraying your core beliefs. And I’m saying that I choose to keep my sexual feelings separate from them.
Pause.
FRANK
Sarah, does this make any sense to you?
SARAH
Actually, it makes perfect sense to me.
TOM
See.
SARAH
Tom’s being a shallow idiot.
(Tom shoots her a look.)
Tom, just so you know, I say that with love.
TOM
Okay then, let me hit you with a hypothetical. Let’s say you have an option between two men for a night of no strings sex. One, an average looking guy who shares your belief system and one really hot guy who’s the male equivalent of Coulter.
SARAH
Define average.
TOM
Well, for the sake of argument, let’s say me.
SARAH
And the hot guy?
TOM
Again, for the sake of argument, Jude Law.
FRANK
Oh, come on! Coulter’s not that good looking!
TOM
Frank!
FRANK
She’s got that horse head thing going on.
TOM
Well, I like that look.
FRANK
Im sorry but I’m calling shannagins on Jude Law.
TOM
Okay, how about Nicholas Cage? He’s got the hangdog thing going.
SARAH
I’ll accept Nick Cage for the sake of argument.
TOM
Okay, which one would you go with?
Pause. Sarah thinks about this.
SARAH
Could I make the Nick Cage guy wear a ball gag.
TOM
Look, whatever you want to do in the bedroom…
SARAH
No, I meant during dinner.
FRANK
No, you have to suffer through any cockamamy conversation he throws at you. Including Saddam actually having WMDs.
Sarah thinks for a moment.
SARAH
I’ll have to go with sex with Tom.
TOM
Really?
SARAH
Only for the sake of argument.
(Beat.)
I’m sorry but personally, I can’t make that separation. Even with just a one night stand.
FRANK
No one can. It’s what separates us from the lowliest animals.
TOM
Well, I don’t want to be separated from the animals. I want, nay deserve the right to lust after anyone I want regardless of political orientation.
Suddenly, the lights dim on the coffee shop and a spotlight hits Tom. The Battle Hymn of the Republic begins to play in the background.
TOM
In this age of partisan politics, there are few things that can be called common ground. But I believe that one thing can be sexuality between a man and a woman. Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, Conservatives. There’s still one thing that connects us and I want that one thing to be our happy places. So my liberal brethren, do not be selfish with yourselves. Open yourselves up to anyone, no matter their beliefs and they will open themselves to you.
The music reaches a crescendo. Suddenly, we hear a voice over.
VOICE OVER GUY (V.O.)
The preceding was paid for by Ann Coulter.
WE CUT TO:
GRAPHIC.
A picture of Ann Coulter with text under it saying Please Touch Me.
ANN COULTER (V.O.)
Please. Ron Silver wont return my calls anymore. Colin Farrell’s turned me down. I need a (BLEEP.) in my (BLEEP.)
BLACKOUT.
Sharkbabe @ 120
Thanks! I appreciate it. I hope you enjoy it.
Tim @119
All these folks are miserably unhappy,not just Ann. Happy people don’t lie,spread nasty rumors and innuendo,rip apart people who’ve lost family members in terrible circumstances,and on and on. Normal,happy,well adjusted human beings don’t do these things,they’re too busy being in families,working at jobs,taking care of others. Happy people aren’t angry and railing at “enemies” all the time either.
Joe,thanks for writing this book. I second TRex’s suggestion of taking down Malkin next,she’s a nasty piece of work.
Jane Hamsher @ 116
Thanks Jane. Exactly!
Joe, a gift for snark is a precious thing. This blog is wonderful with it. It helps us cope. We need you to write more. Blogs, books, etc. Keep up the good work.
Nice…but it won’t top my personal favorite, “pelvic pinochle.” (From an episode of “Futurama.”)
Audrey @ 124
Does anyone remember how influential Anita Bryant was, way back in the 70s, in the anti-gay movement? She had the country’s ear until some brave guy pushed a pie in her face. When people started to ask, “why did he do it?”, they were led to some interesting facts about Anita. All I remember is, she wasn’t all that well liked afterwards, and lost her star power.
We need more pie throwers :-)
Someone else posted this and I am posting every chance I get. I have emailed it to everyone I know too. Is everyone complicit in this cover up or is it just that no one cares?
Over 300 troops were killed in an ammunition bunker blast on October 10th. The Bush Admin is covering this up until after elections. Pick a link below. I recommend the TBR link, as it has the actual NAMES of the 300 troops killed in the blast. Or you can google “Forward Base Falcon” and see for yourself what comes up.
Bush is sweeping the bodies of our dead soldiers under the rug before an election.
http://abcnews.go.com/Internat…..948…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..tml…
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archive…..001…
A little off the topic of A. Coulter (which I’m sure isn’t so bad) — I’m struck by the thought of Reuters reports, all dry and newswire-ish, some of which you must have wrote, and then there’s you here on firedoglake, all good-natured and snarkish.
So are there more people like that working for the newswires? You know, regular guys and gals in their free time? Are they all yearning for someplace to go with their snark?
Buckeye Hamburger @ 129
I was an editor, overseeing coverage of the three big financial markets — stocks, government bonds and currencies. Not exactly the best outless for a wise-acre.Which is not to say I didn’t enjoy it — it’s just hard to be funny when you’re talking about short-dollar positions held by overseas central banks.
Maybe if you accented it with a rim shot.
Sorry I’m late. I’ve been traveling. Welcome Joe, and thanks for putting together a terrific book!
RagingGurrl @
127
with the biotic baking brigade, the pie’s the limit
Pachacutec @ 132
I’m glad you enjoyed/are enjoying it! This is a ton of fun.
Joe,
From a forensics POV, can you say, having been part of that world, how the journalism train came off the tracks?
I mean, were they so collectively sensitive to the liberal bias drumbeat that they swung too far the other way? Is it purely profit motive?
Just like everyone else here, I can’t count the number of times I’ve been slack-jawed and dumbstruck over the media not even bothering to feign neutrality over the past 7-8 years.
Of course it won’t top it. A complcated card game always beats a simple verb. :-)
I don’t think it’s possible to embarrass Chris Matthews. He so uninformed that he was shocked when Barnacle wondered why anyone could consider George Allen a potential ‘08 candidate since the guy was as dumb as a doorpost. Chris spent the first two weeks of October complaining that no one seemed to be covering the war. Finally last week he decided to put on about 30 seconds of war coverage at thestart ofeach show. Yet he still continues to invite hysterics as guests. At my house his show is known as “Let’s Play Loud Mouth” or just plain “Limp Dick”
Loved your book. I’m a fast reader and only buy books if I want the author to do well. I’m making several trips to the bookstore to finish Woodward’s book.
Seriously, besides narcissistic personality disorder – what is wrong with this woman
Of course not. A complex card game always trumps a simple verb. :-)
Joe, props to you also for raising Coulter’s NPD symptom set.
Don’t envy you having to go there, but I’m glad somebody did (and I think you’re spot on!)
Thanks, Joe, for the great work on this book and participating in this chat.
I just ordered your book on Amazon. It seems the best thing we can do to help an author like you is to buy the damn book. And, at $17, including shipping, that’s really not too much to ask (particularly considering the price you paid to publish it).
I do hope you get your lawyer going–the unfairness of your firing is outrageous…
Heller Highwater @ 135
I think a lot of factors came into play. Let’s be honest, in the days after 9/11, we all wanted to be on the same page. We were all scared/disturbed/whatever, and so the press (especially the White House corps) gave the administration the benefit of the doubt. That snowballed, and, combined, with the overcompensation amid charges of the liberal bias, everyone got sort of … timid, to put it kindly.
But the fact is, journalism DOESN’T HAVE TO BE BALANCED. It does, however, need to be fair.
When the Red Sox lose, you don’t write a story that says “The Red Sox lost … but they won” — which would be balanced. You say they lost, which is fair because it’s true.
The same should go for the government.
Oops, sorry. I thought I may have accidently deleted the first comment. Sorry.
Hellerhigway:
The “journalism train came off the tracks” because this is capitalism and journalism is a part of the corporate profit system as well as a mechanism of social-political control.
We live in a corporate fascist state and corporate journalism is part of the great totalitarian machine.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS IS JUST A BATTLE IN THE WAR!!
Buckeye Hamburger @
94
I would PAY to see Jane debate Ann
FRANK
Stop saying that! You’re putting me off my cheesecake.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
whole thing is funny, don’t know why this line killed me so
Joe Maguire @ 142
Thanks. That reminds me of the wonderful BBC news interviewers who, in some interviews will up asking a question like (with London accent) “Well surely all this despicable nonsense can’t keep going on, can it?”
BOOKWOMAN @ 138
Where do I start?
Seriously, though — thanks for the encouragement.
Let’s be honest, in the days after 9/11, we all wanted to be on the same page. We were all scared/disturbed/whatever, and so the press (especially the White House corps) gave the administration the benefit of the doubt.
I will never forget watching those towers burn and hearing only two words over and over in my mind: “martial law.”
Joe – your comment:
“But the fact is, journalism DOESN’T HAVE TO BE BALANCED. It does, however, need to be fair.
When the Red Sox lose, you don’t write a story that says “The Red Sox lost … but they won” — which would be balanced. You say they lost, which is fair because it’s true.
The same should go for the government.”
is very important – we’ve forgotten that spin is not the same as facts. Good journalists clearly have personal opinions, etc but they also know to look for the facts and treat their work with a sense of integrity that is sorely missing these days.
Isn’t she a bit long in the tooth for the particular look she goes after? I’m trying to imagine her in the same room with Amy Sedaris. Now that’s funny.
RagingGurrl @ 127
I remember.
Kathryn in MA @
145
That will never ever happen. I’d sooner spend the evening mud wrestling, it would be a more honest dollar.
Heller – nodding … that’s why I listen to the Beeb every night – it’s my one dose of real interviews, closer to real news a day.
I’d love to see a media outlet with folks like Joe doing good ole fashioned reporting again … how refreshing would that be?!
Jane Hamsher @ 153
OK, could Amy Sedaris moderate?
mud wrestling Jane? you’d win hands down!
Siun @ 154
Let truth be the scoop!
Heller Highwater @ 147
Thanks. That reminds me of the wonderful BBC news interviewers who, in some interviews will up asking a question like (with London accent) “Well surely all this despicable nonsense can’t keep going on, can it?”
Tony Blair, anyone? James Wolcott is asking that, without accent over at Vanity Fair
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott
I think you all have something – Jane could debate Ann, Amy Sedaris would be the moderator and come up with questions – it would certainly beat anything on Fox. Joe, what question would send Ann over the edge?
What will be the subject of your next work Joe?
BOOKWOMAN @ 159
Hmmm … that’ll take some thought — given that just about everything seems to send her over the edge.
Hey Joe. Just wanted to let you know I plan on breaking the promise I made to myself of ignoring Coultergeist — with the hope that she will crawl back under the rock in which she came from — by buying your book.
I think it’s ridiculous of Reuters to let you go for telling, presumably, the (ugly, ugly) truth about the Connecticut screech.
My question has to do with the allegations of plagiarism in her book. Do you address that in Brainless and, if so, did you find that those allegations are substantiated?
And as a follow-up, did you come across any information that would suggest that her book sales are artifically inflated by bulk-buys or anything like that? It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Joe — welcome to FDL. And thanks so much for writing this book. You are right — someone really needed to do it. Barack Obama had a great quote from Pat Moynihan (who I miss tremendously these days) on Meet the Press this morning: “You are entitled to your own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.” (Or something to that effect.) Coulter doesn’t even bother having her own facts — she just invites you into her own fact free reality and expects you to stay there with her. It amazes me that the mean-spirited, crazy crap sells…but, alas, it does. Thanks for calling her on it. Here’s hoping the “pundit classes” pay attention.
Sharkbabe @ 146
Thanks, Sharkbabe!
Mike @ 162
Re: the plagiarism — I go into detail in the book, for sure. And while it’s hard to cry plagiarism when it deals with a handful of 25-word passages being lifted verbatim, it certainly ain’t honest writing. And the fact that her publisher and syndicate immediately jumped to her defense — after she told Leno that “Godless” was the “least edited of her books” — seems a little suspect.
About the bulk buying — it could happen. It wouldn’t be the first time. Either way, “Godless” has (by last count) sold much less well than the previous three. Maybe her 15 minutes of fame is up.
Jane Hamsher @
153
If any blogger is going to debate Ann Coulter, I nominate the Rude Pundit. She thinks she’s clever and nasty. The Rude One’ll show her clever and nasty.
Wasn’t it Goebbels who spoke about the power of hatred? He waxed poetic – about how he loved to hate. You put her in the same category?
Buckeye Hamburger @ 166
Wait a minute, let’s not dismiss the mud wrestling just yet…
BOOKWOMAN @ 167
Well, clearly, the ramifications of Ann’s filth pale in comparison to the Holocaust — but the level of hate seems comparable.
Jane Hamsher @ 153
What if we made huge contributions to Ned?
Hey, all — thanks a lot for the great questions. It was my pleasure.
I’m gonna run out and get some food. I may try to log back on later to answer more questions. in the mentime, I encourage you to check out http://www.anncoulterisbrainless.com for blog entries, comments, contests and videos.
Thanks again!
Joe Maguire @
161
Well, I’ll play.
How about-”Ann, who do you think gave Joe McCarthy the syphilis that ate his brain?”
Thanks Joe…LOVE the book!
Joe Maguire @ 165
Let’s hope. Her hate-speech is shockingly pervasive. I go back and forth with people all the time about her “work” and they see it as unquestioned Gospel. It’s corrosive effect is disturbing.
Another question if I may: I’ve read that her thesis — a “church of liberalism” with the sacrificial right of abortion and clergy of left-wing academics blah blah blah — is basically a regurgitation of other works. Apart from the allegations of plagiarism, did you come across these other works and, if so, did you find that they were essentially identical to Godless?
Joe Maguire @ 169
I’m not sure that’s so. She has made many many people proud to be bigots – a short step to violence. At Loyola Chicago, she tried to get goons to start fights with people who were protesting her presence at Catholic school. Her words were along the lines of – if you were real men you’d take them out. Whole thing missed being a riot with the actions of one old priest. She looked demonic.
Thank you Joe – it’s been a great Book Salon!
And come back and visit anytime you get tired of that leisurely author’s life!
Buckeye Hamburger @ 166
**thinking that one over** Yeah, but Ann thinks she is a hot-bod blonde – just the visual contrast between her and Jane would cause her to spontaneously combust.
Thanks again Joe! Good luck with the book!
Joe Maguire @ 169
I agree. Just because they haven’t come to lock up all the liberals (ie: anyone who disagrees with them) in their brand new detention camps, yet, doesn’t mean they wouldn’t love to.
“Goebbelsian” hatemongering has done a lot of damage to this country.
It can happen here.
Kathryn in MA @ 177
I see your point, the Rude One would outwit her but Annie C. wouldn’t get it. But put her up against a woman who’s both smarter and better-looking, that might make her lose her marbles with the cameras rolling.
But Jane said no, so we’re gonna have to come up with a better bribe. A year’s supply of Purina for the poodles, maybe?
Thanks so much for coming here today, Joe. We really enjoyed it. We look forward to looking to you any time there is a Coulter alert on the horizon.
Mr. Maguire, sorry to be late, thanks so much for your great work on Coultergeist.
Joe, thanks again for your book! Reuters lost a gem.
Jane Hamsher @ 77
I look at pictures of her and I think she is the perfect expression of “GOP pretty.”
It was Bob Adams who said that “a liberal 2 is a conservative 10 — no wonder they hate us.” No woman with any self-respect could adopt a world-view in which women are just so many piles of useless garbage, hence the beauty that comes from within just doesn’t.
Most self-respecting women like to think that with the right lighting and makeup, and if we’re feeling upbeat and positive and doing something we feel good about, we can hit a liberal “6″ or “7″. But even when we’re feeling sick and bloated and flu-ridden and catch a glimse of our ashen-skinned selves in the mirror as we reach for the TheraFlu, it’s somewhat comforting to know we’d still be a ‘10′in the eyes of the GOP.
Well you would be, Jane. lol
I had the flu earlier this month and I was a definite Republican 8.
WATB cbl – come back Joe ! can’t believe I missed the book salon, AGAIN !!!
Mr. Maguire -
Welcome to Firedoglake, good luck with the book, and wishes for equally good luck with your lawyer !
psst ! – someone’s gift wrapped copy awaits his birthday
oh please, she’d have get in the mud upon seeing The Janeness – just so no one would notice the small river of pee flowing down her leg
RagingGurrl @ 127
My recollection was that she was popular as a former beauty and orange juice spokesmodel. Her schtick was that she exuded goodness, just like orange juice.
But then her anti gay views got their airing and it turned people off of her and apparently oj.
The orange juice folks dropped her and her brand of fundi hatred banished her to the edges normal society.
Of course, some difficulties with her husband and infidelity or money problems or something like that, didn’t help.
Those were the days, eh?
Voter @ 128, re the ammo dump exlosion killing 300 troops: those first two links are now defunct; coincidence? I think not.
lf @ 187
Odd. They work fine for me, using Firefox.
Anne Coulter: Unnatural Blonde Killers
I dunno why, but every time I see her or think of her, that’s what goes through my mind.
Welcome Joe!
See a tongue-in-cheek visual of the new war on terror starring Ann Coulter…here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
Marion in Savannah @
188
I’m using Firefox, and they were broken links for me …
Is that why I always think “Tertiary stage syhpilis” when I see Ms. Coulter? Admit it, that’s the first thing that pops into your mind when you see her…. she’s beyond un-sexy, she’ll rot your brain.
Good old Ann Coulter, who is almost none of the things she claims to be, and certainly not an exponent of Christian values.
I can hardly wait to get my own copy of the book.
Marion in Savannah @
188
They’re broken links for me as well, in Firefox. Could those who can see them perhaps C&P key portions for the rest of us?
Maybe the Memory Hole has copies of the expunged news reports. It’s not that I disbelieve they’d be capable of it, but I don’t know TBR News. All the other reports on this Google found were just repostings of their report.
TRex @
75
TRex: Sometimes you really go to far. The last paragraph is a case in point. It’s worthy of Ann herself and reflects very poorly on FDL. You do a lot of great stuff. Don’t negate it with viscious snark like the above……
I’ve been ignoring Coulter for years because I know it’s all an act to sell books and rake in the big speaking fees.
All she cares about is funding up her Hobe Sound lifestyle.
Her goal is to be a Gold Coast social maven and will likely end up marrying some rich, elderly oilman without a prostate and throwing a few parties every year for the crowd down there.
This article is guilty of everything you say Ann is perpetuating. This is nothing but “snarky” infotainment that perpetuates hatred of others views. Regardless of Ann’s credibility or not ( I personally agree with her on some things and not on others ) … your post isn’t anything above what you claim she has to offer. Your message may be different but your approach appears to be everything you claim to hate about her.
Rude, stereotypical and baseless.
To use a line that Dolly Parton made famous, and applying it to Cunning Stunt Coulter: it costs a lot to look this cheap!
One wonders what it has cost Coulter, except I, for one, don’t give a shit. She’s cost this country more dignity and respect and honor and should be charged for what she’s done as the treasonous slut she is.
I keep wondering why any of the leftists even bring this up as a point regarding political debate. Except that it seems the leftists’ political existence relies solely related to sex, most notably abortion and homosexuality, and everything else (especially national security) takes the proverbial “back seat” (Get it, get it? Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh!!!).
I read a ton of leftists who absolutely love that old bag Helen Thomas. She clearly is not what one thinks of as sexy, unless you’re someone who was around when the Great Pyramid of Giza was built. I believe ol’ Helen reported it while working at the Memphis Egypt Times.
Not that this isn’t a fine entry, but when I saw the post title, I thought we were going to get a guest post from noted World ‘o Crap commenter and polemicist Anntichrist S. Coulter.
Coulter is indeed an embarrassment. On the other hand, you should not be surprised by her antics or her over-the-top hyperbole. Extremists on the left have created Ann Coulter. AC is a splendid example of Isaac Newton’s third law of motion, viz. for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you don’t believe me, buy a copy of Michelle Malkin’s “Unhinged” book and read it. I am amused by your reaction to AC. You puzzle over her media popularity, her sex appeal, her sanity, etcetera. You just don’t get it. She is NOT stupid. She is making money hand over fist. There’s a very large number of people out there that don’t care what she says, how she says it, or whether anything that she says is true. These people are simply “getting off” on the fact that she consistently gets you to “take the bait.” They love watching her infuriate you to the point where you go into convulsions. People want to see her on TV solely for the entertainment value. IMHO, the whole phenomenon is akin to the popularity of pro-wrestling. It’s the same caliber of people that like to watch that kind of stuff. If you don’t like what she says and how she says it, the worst thing that you could do is write and publish a book about her. She will thrive on the attention. She’s laughing at you right about now.
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I look at pictures of her and I think she is the perfect expression of “GOP pretty.”
It was Bob Adams who said that “a liberal 2 is a conservative 10 — no wonder they hate us.” No woman with any self-respect could adopt a world-view in which women are just so many piles of useless garbage, hence the beauty that comes from within just doesn’t.
Most self-respecting women like to think that with the right lighting and makeup, and if we’re feeling upbeat and positive and doing something we feel good about, we can hit a liberal “6″ or “7″. But even when we’re feeling sick and bloated and flu-ridden and catch a glimse of our ashen-skinned selves in the mirror as we reach for the TheraFlu, it’s somewhat comforting to know we’d still be a ‘10′in the eyes of the GOP.
“GOP pretty” — maybe I should change my name for her. I always refer to her as “Repuplican pundit Ann Coulter” It connects the two–even though many would like to run away from her. “GOP pundit Ann Coulter” has a better ring to it.
She shouldn’t be referred to by just her name. She should always be called “GOP pundit Anne Coulter”
or “GOp cundit”