My brother called my attention to this video and whenever I'm feeling vexed and out of sorts lately, I cue it up and watch it. It cracks me up, especially the bit where the trumpet-playing thing gets bitten on the ass by the little dog. It's by a Barcelona band called The Pinker Tones. Repeat after me, "All politicians are crooks/and we are karma hunters!"
WARNING: Watching this clip will embed the song in your consciousness forever. You will find yourself rapping, "Vote for the Instant Karma Party right now!" whether you want to or not. I was walking downtown the other day and it just started looping around and around and around in my head until I was walking in rhythm with it and chanting it under my breath. That and this part:
"Hi, there voters, how do you feel? Tired of the same old voting deal? Well, look who's back with a brand new style, a brand new look and a brand new smile!"
"EEEEYYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHH!!"
It just seems appropriate somehow.
So, I'm going to put a question to the crowd tonight. A lot of us, myself included, are understandably leery about casting our vote on Diebold machines. Especially in Georgia where our Secretary of State (an alleged Democrat) has repeatedly ignored questions about the reliability and security of Diebold machines and even signed off on the shady Diebold software patch that may have swung our senatorial election away from Max Cleland and into the fat, sweaty hands of Saxby Chambliss in 2002.
From The Booman Tribune:
So basically, there was a deal where Diebold had free reign over the entire Georgia election process for 2002. Which included training the workers, setting up the machines, counting the votes, and, well, just about everything else.
And then Diebold's election unit president stepped in and made the story even more interesting:
Then, one muggy day in mid-August, Hood was surprised to see the president of Diebold's election unit, Bob Urosevich, arrive in Georgia from his headquarters in Texas. With the primaries looming, Urosevich was personally distributing a "patch," a little piece of software designed to correct glitches in the computer program. "We were told that it was intended to fix the clock in the system, which it didn't do," Hood says. "The curious thing is the very swift, covert way this was done."
And thanks to the agreement between Cox and Diebold, there was no need to certify the change to the software, since Diebold was pretty much running the election process – at least the administration of it.
"It was an unauthorized patch, and they were trying to keep it secret from the state," Hood told me. "We were told not to talk to county personnel about it. I received instructions directly from Urosevich. It was very unusual that a president of the company would give an order like that and be involved at that level."
Absolutely no major media outlet in Georgia has covered this story. The only paper that has seen fit to look into the matter at all is Atlanta Progressive News. I would urge you all to spotlight this piece to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and demand some answers. I, personally, have written to the office of Cathy Cox on three separate occasions and each time gotten the brush-off, i.e., a form letter and a pat on the head.
Now, if things go like I think they may, I may well be up in Connecticut for the elections, so I'll be voting absentee. I've heard both sides of that issue. Some people say, "Yes! Demand a verifiable paper ballot!" whereas others are saying, "Absentee ballots can be stolen or destroyed! Demand a paper receipt from your Diebold machine!"
What do you guys think? We're down to the last twenty days before the election. I find it ominous that people are talking about Preznint Pusbag and Karl "Dirty Tricks R Us" Rove showing signs of eerie calm in the face of what many are predicting as a full-on disaster for the Reich Wing come November. Is there something they know that we don't? Do you trust your vote to Diebold? What do you feel like are your alternatives? Is it too late to start ringing the alarm bells and pushing for a national voter-strike against Diebold voting?
I believe this matter to be of paramount importance. Our votes are the central tenet of our democracy. We can all sign up to be poll-watchers and election monitors (and we should!), but if someone tampers with the machines the day before the election, how would we know? The Princeton video shows pretty clearly that a rigged Diebold machine looks and acts just like a clean one. What can we do now to ensure a clean and fair election in three weeks?
I'm counting on you guys for good ideas. This is something that's been bothering me for the better part of the last year and at this juncture I am ready to accept that the Reich Wingers are capable of anything. No institution in our democracy has been too sacred for them to shit all over. Why would they stop at our votes?
So, speak up, O Great Hive Mind. What can we do about this at this late date? The future of democracy in America may well depend on it.



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TREX!
Dana @ 0
DANA!! My favorite foodie!
Would you like a chocolate-dipped strawberry to go with your champagne?
Dude, didn’t you know you jumped the shark. ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa3yG1j_9pc
Combine your posts into a book. :-)
Every time I watch this video, it makes me happier. Something about it kind of reminds me of Monk.
And damn if the song isn’t as catchy as poison ivy.
pray
tryggth @
3
I didn’t see any shark. Where?
I’m worried far less about Dielbold than about other nastiness like the Orange County letters to Hispanics. For some reason, I feel less nervous about the election the closer it comes to Nov. 7. Every day, more bad news for Republicans, and even if they have more millions to spend, their money won’t go as far as the Dems’ this year.
Best protest sign seen in Viriginia at a Bush protest today: “Monica Lewinsky has had more president in her than George Bush will ever have.”
TRex @ 6
I think you called it “sushi” right before you popped it into your mouth.
Best protest sign seen in Viriginia at a Bush protest today: “Monica Lewinsky has had more president in her than George Bush will ever have.”
Oh, that is GOOD!!
But did she have more than Jeff Gannon? That’s the 64K dollar question.
Wow! A chocolate-dipped strawberry and champagne? Thanks, TRex! May I have another?
So is the Weller story (another page, another story) showing up tomorrow?
Here in Los Angeles, the early voting is done on Diebolds (or their electronic cousins), but the regular and absentee ballots are ink on paper. (I’d rather vote on paper, although the machines are easy to use. YMMV.)
Damn, but I needed that cute-and-cuddly little bit of amusement. Thanks, TRex.
I was on the verge of tears after reading that TPMmuckraker story and the corresponding diary at DailyKos about House Appropriations Chair Jerry Lewis firing 60 investigators that worked for the committee in some sort of twisted Monday night Massacre. Lewis is under investigation himself, but claims there wasn’t anything fishy about these firings.
Worse. Than. Watergate.
At least I shook off the tears and I’ll have something fun to show the kids in the morning over Cheerios. Instant Karma Party now, baby.
re: Diebold – as someone who used to be in the software business and has seen more than my share of fuckups, the only _non-malicious_ reason I can think of for Diebold to be sneaking a patch in at the last minute is that there was a fatal error in the software that they needed to fix before everything blew up. That’s more than enough reason not to use their products.
TRex,
I quite agree that the Rovian calm, together with the Cheney/Bush insistence that the Rethugs will not lose either the House or the Senate, is eerie. One thing I think we should be doing about it is making serious plans for what to do if they throw the elections (again). Like massive, stop traffic protests, etc.
It’s not just the machines that are a problem. Large numbers of voters are getting purged from the registration rolls – in carefully selected areas.
Ohio (Blackwell country) is the most obvious locale. African-Americans and the young (college-aged) are being targeted. As many as 400,000 votes are at risk. The GOPers planning is such that correcting the situation is nearly impossible in the time remaining before 7 Nov.
Ohio Lawsuit to Reinstate hundreds of thousands of Purged Democratic Voters to be Filed Fri or Monday
The legal team taking on the Blackwell machine is asking for contrubutions
My good news is that I got my Absentee Ballot in the mail today. YAY!
Dana @ 7
I’m with you, Dana, on seeing other electoral shenanigans as being a much more credible threat. Or perhaps I should say I’m sure that stuff like the OC letter is going on, while I only suspect Diebold irregularities.
Elections are like computers – every time someone comes up with a “foolproof” way to make them secure, someone else comes up with a virus or finds a way to hack the operating system. If you want to steal an election, you can mess with paper ballots, mechanical voting machines, or electronic gizmos – all it takes is a different approach to the crime. The best defense is threefold: keep your virus software up to date, keep your eyes peeled for odd behavior, and scream like mad at the first signs of trouble.
Every campaign needs to have a crew of lawyers on hand, from today through the whole election process (balloting, counting, certifying, etc.). Looseheadprop’s been big on this and can spell out the details for any and all who are interested.
Every precinct needs election judges. The procedures for being named a judge vary from place to place, but in theory there should be at least two – a Republican and a Democrat – in every polling place, to keep an eye on each other to make sure everything’s on the up and up. Call your registrar of voters, to see if they still need judges. The vote you save may be your own.
If they don’t need more judges, call your local democratic party office. Every precinct needs a pool of poll watchers (take turns, lunch breaks, etc.) to make sure that the election judges go by the book. Sometimes there are innocent mistakes, but other times . . . let’s just say that if poll watchers are watching, it makes it hard to commit certain kinds of voting irregularities.
Lots of ways to steal an election. If Rove & Co are going to try that in November, let’s not make it easy on them. Swamp the polls with voters who have “had enough,” and watch the polling place workers like hawks.
It’s all of a piece. I pray that the reason that Cathy Cox got her ass whupped in the Georgia primary was at least partly because of her love affair with Diebold. (Yeah, I know… dreamland…) The combination of Diebold, Swift Boating, letters to Hispanics, etc., etc., etc., etc., is all simply one tapestry. If we pull on one thread the thing still hangs on the damn wall.
I think I’m going to go to bed now. I’m too cross, tired and depressed to add anything constructive here. As someone who has never allowed guns around her I’ve told people (and I mean it) that if the Repugs somehow cook the books this election I’m going to arm myself to the teeth. I haven’t felt like this since Nixon. And he was a more honorable man than this little squit.
Please forgive the rant. I’ll check in when I get up in the morning, and I’m sure I will find hope and inspiration.
OT – but elections related. I just arrived in NYC, taking a cab with a Pakistani driver from Laguardia. I asked if he was a citizen and if he voted. He answered yes to both, then said something remarkable (or at least I had never hear of this). In the first election when he could vote, he voted for Bush, in the second election he was for Kerry. In the first Election he said most Moslems here voted for Bush because Pakistani papers in the U.S. and at home had run articles saying that Gore had selected Lieberman as V.P. but there was a plan in place (if he was elected) to assassinate Gore, leaving Lieberman president. They were very worried about him, so went with Bush. The story he said was probably passed to Pakistani newspapers by U.S. sources. He noted ditto with the Osama tape which appeared at the last minute and also helped Bush and the Repubs in the last election. If true, this shows how even relatively small segments of the population (Moslems in this case) are brought into play through nefarious means both in this country and through the foreign press. Remember too the faked Niger document which turned up in Rome.
A quote from the article:
As someone who’s been in the business of delivering software systems to the government, I understand this situation. When you’re in a situation like Diebold’s, and you’ve found a fix to a nasty little problem, you’ll want to propogate it immediately. The trouble, of course, is there are good reasons why you don’t do such a thing without going through an upgrade process that includes testing, training (if necessary), and validation.
There’s a strong temptation in such cases to just put that fix out there, and screw the process. Diebold could have been doing nothing more than that here.
Nothing about this is unusual. It happens whether it should or not, and in this case apparently Diebold got away with it.
Marion in Savannah @ 17
Marion, watch the video! I swear, it works wonders!
One thing about the Diebold machines (and I’m no fan of the others, either) is that it’s an issue that brings together the left and the tinfoil-hat-wearing libertarian/right/whatever. That and Iraq. If you listen to late-night radio, you hear a lot of people with a year’s supply of survival rations in their basement ranting about how bad black box voting is.
Just when I finally got all my daughter’s Barney songs out of my head, you give me this.
I’d vote absentee ballot. I’d never use a hackable computerized voting machine. Any Democrat who supports using Republican owned machines are too incompetent, and are unworthy of elected office imo.
PS. Nice job doing that interview on The Young Turks the other day.
OT/Anybody watching the Mets?
There, I just spotlighted this to the Journal Constitution and to my local paper.
How about you guys?
UptownNYChick @ 23
Yup. I have no nails left. But we aren’t suppose to tell the score.
Richmond @ 25
Ok. Just got home. Nervous for some reason.
I read an interesting article in Wired today on e-voting machines. The authors proposed what they thought would be the requirements for a good e-voting system, and I’d say they’ve made an excellent start.
http://www.wired.com/news/poli…..957-0.html
I think they don’t place quite enough emphasis on configuration control, which is absolutely critical, or physical security, but in most respects I think they have it right.
UptownNYChick @ 26
ugh. carlos beltran better find somewhere to get traded to…
Sorry Ct.Bob.
ST. LOUIS WINS BOTTOM 9th! WoooHooo!
You got to-
You got to-
VOTE FOR THE INSTANT KARMA PARTY RIGHT NOW!
Sorry. Stuck in my head.
Richmond @ 25
So I guess that means we can’t give consolations to the losing team.
newspaperbrat @ 29
(didn’t get the memo…)
UptownNYChick @ 23
Cards just won
I live in southeast Iowa
small happiness after a very bad week!
Sorry Pach.
TRex @ 30
Sheesh! I’d just scrubbed it out of my mind and you go and plop it right back in there! Hmmm, wonder what real instant karma would mean for Bushy, Rove, Cheney, Rummy, Condi if it were to happen?
Colleen daily luker @ 33
Depends on where you live, I guess.
Sympathies to all you mets fans. (I was ambidextrous about the outcome, as Yogi might say.) I had to wait til the end of the game to watch the video. Thanks TRex. I will be humming, or rather marching it for awhile. GRRRRR. ;-)
Just back from UCLA. More tests on tap. Oh what fun.
—
We still have paper/optical ballots here. Of course some machine reads it and another machine tabulates the totals, so there’s room for cheating lying low-life snakes every step of the way. Same thing with absentee: some machine counts and tabulates. Technically the paper ballots are in some box somewhere, but ballot recounts have been screwed up a number of times in the last few years. So….WTF? I dunno.
UptownNYChick @ 36
I live with 3 card fans I am a Cub fan we call it a mixed marriage. In this area it basically Cards or Cubs.
Hiya TRex! Glad to see you keeping the lens focused on Diebold.
Why no link to the YouTube video we had set up though instead of making people download the 60MB Quicktime and Media file?
[Edit] Never mind… I see the Princenton page has their own high-rez embedded Flash Video now. That’s even better.
Hi TRex,
Love the Karma Hunters. Very fun.
I voted once using a Diebold machine in my county here in California. I touched the screen and made my choices . . . and the screen froze. One of the poll workers came up and pushed some buttons, apparently wiping out my ballot and then I voted again. It was all quite strange. The Diebold machines were then de-certified in California and the next election we went back to paper ballots. The Diebold machines were then re-certified and I voted absentee for the very first time, and will continue to do so even if they fix the problems with Diebold. In California we can request permanent absentee voter status. I have done that and it is so much more convenient and much less stressful to fill out your ballot at home. I voted last week.
For McNerney, of course! :)
Sheesh! I’d just scrubbed it out of my mind and you go and plop it right back in there! Hmmm, wonder what real instant karma would mean for Bushy, Rove, Cheney, Rummy, Condi if it were to happen?
Easy! They’d open their eyes and find themselves strapped to a water-board in a CIA run secret prison in Romania.
TRex @
4
The whole-tone scales in the “hypnotic” section reminded me of Monk, but probably not the same Monk of whom you were reminded.
Colleen daily luker @ 33
I grew up in southeast Iowa. Graduated from Iowa. Go Hawkeyes! :)
I don’t think they can steal this one, at least most of them. Too many districts. Overwhelm. Someone around here or over at Kos said that Rove & Co *have* to be positive, or the troops will panic and the bloodletting will begin. Bush is clearly in denial, maybe Rove is working like hell to somehow fix it. But I don’t think they can at this point.
sjvalleygal @ 44
well basebal season is officialy over now here.
Heading home. See you kids in a bit.
TRex @ 42
It disturbs me that my first thought when I read that was “Can I pour the water, please, huh, can I, can I?” I didn’t know I had that in me.
TRex on good behavior tonight. Nice Dino.
Did you guys see this Stinking Pile of Republican Corruption on Muckraker tonight?
It looks like the Consiglieri of the House Appropriations GOP Crime Syndicate has fired 80% of its investigative team overnight. Told today, “Don’t come back tomorrow!”
sjvalleygal @ 44
So did I. I work there now as a research assistant.
I think the we need Dems in so real science can be funded again.
Nate @ 50
What?? Today’s not a Friday!
Gnome de Plume @ 37
On the plus side, the Mets were missing their best starters, which is a serious problem in a short series, and they took it down to the wire.
Well, at least I won’t have mixed feelings about the Series. Go Motor Kitties!
I never want to hear the word glitch ever again for the rest of my life. It is such a lie.
Goodnight all!
Persiflage @ 48
Can we first make them all get naked on a dirty middle-eastern prison floor doing the pyramid dog pile while the whole nation stands around with rubber gloves and live electrical conduits and holding back growling German Shepherds on chain leashes?
I’ve always preferred my justice to be kharmic and perverted.
Hiya Dana and thanks for the post Trex!
Go Webb, Lamont and everybody real, progressive and new!
I haven’t read the comments, so feel free to kick my ass if anyone else has posted this.
Wired News has an article on how to do electronic voting RIGHT
How to design an electronic voting machine that works
Nate @ 9:01 pm (#50 )
Thanks for the link. Looks like the investigating was going too well.
Hey, Angie! I’ve been doing a bit for Webb and going to a house party in my own neighborhood this weekend. Considering this neck of the woods, it’s amazing there’s anything within 15 miles of me. (Congrats to your brother!)
Rayne @
12
E.P.U.’d one thread back, but it works here too:
LindyH @
136
Good idea, Jerry…Axing the gravediggers who know where all the bodies are right before the State comes to inspect the mortuary.
You don’t suppose they might be… cooperative with the Feds in a rather pointed way- since they don’t have jobs to lose anymore and all?
I don’t think that chartered Bush jet to Paraguay warming up on the tarmac is big enough to hold all you malfeasants.
Cue Nelson Muntz here
;>)
And go, Droopy Joe, go!
anjinsan @ 58
Consider it kicked. Glad to see everyone’s paying attention. TRex’s momma wears size 1000 army boots with special arch supports.
Nate @ 56
Sure, but I think the nation is going to have to settle for sloppy seconds. I think we should give the Iraqi people first dibs, particularly those innocent men humiliated in the Abu Graib photos.
Darkblack.. Watergate was children at play compared to what’s going on now. Boss Tweed would look upon today’s political machine with envy and curse being born too soon. Or, alternately, be glad he owned his time.
The irony, of course, is that Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.. they were all democrats.
TRex — I spotlighted this to editorial editors of five major papers and five tv news directors.
Night all.
Dana @ 60
Thank you for the congrats– he’s an amazing little bro’ and person.
I think Mr. Webb will prevail. It is such an important race. I am happy to hear of the nearby house party!
Hopefully, the Fan’s and C’ville’s and NOVA’s enthusiasm for Webb will light up many more neighborhoods all over Virginia starting this weekend.
We just gotta keep working it!
I really think the only possible remedy at this late date is to Get Out the Vote… if we turn out in massive numbers, it makes it much harder to steal..
anjinsan @ 64
The best (admittedly, using ‘best’ in as loose a way as possible without rendering it utterly devoid of meaning) thing is that if enough people get burned and energized on this…There will be no mercy for the criminals.
No 5 months in Club Fed with ‘time off for good suntan’. No book deals. No Oprah-style redemptive confessionals. And no posh punditry gigs to keep the wolf from the door.
Nothing but prison, dishonor, and the knowledge that the quickest way out lies in a locked gun cabinet upstairs.
OldCoastie @ 9:24 pm (#68)
I agree that this is the best solution. The more lopsided the vote is, the harder it is to reverse. The trouble in Florida in 2000 was that the margin was so small that many different problems could have swayed the vote, as could small amounts of vote suppression or fraud.
This is getting so damn repulsive.
Who would have known the Republicans would make flinging feces look so easy in order to remain holding onto the levers of power.
-GSD
OldCoastie @ 68
I agree with OldCoastie. You can only catch them when they get desperate. Let’s push ‘em over the edge!
P.S. shrieking harpy
Yeah, I’ll believe THAT when I see it. Instead of My Pet Goat, someday children will read When A President Pardons Himself.
Cujo359 @
59
Is this the Thursday Night Purge?
-GSD
GSD @ 74
No, it was the Monday Night Purge, but we only found out about it today. Wonder what happened today? Tune in next Tuesday, I guess.
Look at this gem:
“If you are airing positive ads you are allowing your opponent to get traction when you should be ripping them down,” said Carl Forti of the House Republican Campaign Committee. “It’s about making your opponent unacceptable.”
Such a positive message with these people.
-GSD
Link to the dink.
CT-Sen: “The Kiss” Revisited
front paged at Daily Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/
Also TPM – Josh has a post about Kerry’s contributions to Democrats with lnks to a page that Kerry has put up:
http://www.johnkerry.com/themost/ (read Josh first).
Damn! I wanna join the Instant Karma Party!
egregious: Catching up from last thread, let me offer my affirmation and admiration to you! And if you need another local bunny person to commiserate with, just let me know and we can get in touch.
I’m also a software engineer and I’m scared big time about the whole Diebold thing. I already knew what was possible, but the Princeton video really brought it home. And to those who think that there are too many races to rig, you’re kidding yourselves. This type of hacking is easy, especially if BushCo is dropping a cool $1 million in an offshore account for you as a nice thank you for your civic duty. The only races they can rig are the close ones since those are the only ones where the tampering won’t be discovered. But that’s fine, since it’s only the close races that need rigging!
This election is probably already rigged and we will likely wake up on Nov. 8th to stories of “The Wave That Didn’t Break” and “Bush Feels Vindicated By Election”. What we need NOW is a plan on what to do with our outrage when we read such stories. We need to focus that energy like our lives and country are hanging in the balance. We need a single, simple plan on what to do, and it needs to be spread across the blogsphere and beyond. I suggest a sit-in in Washington, probably in the Capitol building. I also suggest people start preparing themselves for arrest.
GSD @ 9:40 pm (#76) – Did you add that link using update? I was about to ask where that quote came from when I noticed it was in the text of your comment, but I didn’t see it in your comment until I reloaded.
SusanD @
78
Baby, we are the Instant Karma Party.
Oh, yes we are.
(waves) Hey, TRex! How are things?
jinny @ 9:40 pm (#77)
Taylor Marsh did some digging, including asking the politicians involved what they think. There’s an interesting comment or two there, and some by YT, as well. Seems this thing got started by some anonymous website. It stinks for more reasons than just because someone’s trying to tar a guy who’s doing quite a bit more than average already.
GSD @ 74
does this mean there will be so much awful news for repugs that they have to start 24 hours early?
My favorite thing in the whole video clip is when the dancing radio first says, “Hi, there voters!”
And the little dancing Instant Karma People wave back. And the radio says, “How do you feel?”
And it shows all the people smiling.
Maybe I’m a giant goob but it just about puts a lump in my throat for some reason.
Cute, my friends, can be a mighty weapon.
The Republicans game is really fucked up though. When it rains it pours, but they lost too many cogs in their machine.
Losing the weasily but effective Delay seems to have been big troubles….
Also, Rover waas sweating and off his game for long enough for people to realize just how much wool had been pulled over their eyes in regards to Bush’s lack of competence and his fundamental shortage of goodwill towards humankind.
-GSD
Oh yeah, they are making mistakes like this costly one:
“The GOP candidate in question here is not George H.W. Bush — it’s Senator Mike DeWine, who’s fallen far behind Dem challenger Sherrod Brown. Today a dozen Ohio TV stations yanked a GOP ad attacking Brown, mainly because the ad was demonstrably false. The NRCC sank over $700,000 into the ad.”
TPM Link
Diebold’s first mistake was using WindowCE for the operating system. When you start with an inherently insecure system you end up with an insecure app. The whole thing is altogether too complex and writing the results to rewritable media is just the topper. Steve over at the NEWSBLOG was making the point that concerns over hackable machines is a red herring and that its all about voter suppresion
here’s the sure-fire antidote to that Karma Hunters happy stuff:
Radiohead – Karma Police
marksb @
45
Well, maybe not, but it won’t be for lack of trying. It would be nice to think that the ‘eerie calm’ is just them glazed over and waiting for the truck to hit them , but I wouldn’t trust these guys to even die properly (you know I’m one a those folks who think Ken Lay has a new life somewhere warm — Paraguay maybe?) And Georgia seems to be the home of voting-machine election fraud. I originally found this article in the New Yorker archives, but I can’t find that one now, this is a reprint/repost. Annals of Democracy: Counting Votes by Ronni Dugger Count the Vote has a page of scary stuff about GA — they don’t look too confident.
And of course the NAACP has selected GA as on of the 10 states whose elections it will be monitoring.
So yeah, it looks like you are not unjustified in your concern.
replay of the CT Sen. debate on now on CSPAN
It is really getting that bad stank of a desperate endgame by a band of desperados.
Nancy Pelosi may have to demand Bush, Jeb and Poppy leave the US.
Hence the Paraguayan Bush Compound.
I hear it has the scarface fountain and the ‘World is yours’ statue in the front lobby.
-GSD
Where have we heard this before?
send an instant karma to me
initial it with loving care
GSD @
92
Only if Speaker Pelosi makes them take the women folk – Laura, Babs etc et al – into exile.
;D
HotFlash @ 90
I hear Paraguay is nice this time of year and there is lots of bike riding.
TRex @ 86
Hi there, voters!
I needed that actually. God, I love that song.
I am hoping it will be booming out of every club when I am in Barcelona next week.
Just watched Syriana. Wow, was that depressing….
Radiohead – “Electioneering”
just a quickie/driveby. i have to be at work in about 30 minutes.
when the democrats lost in ‘94, how much scandal was there? not very much as i remember, and the change has lasted for twelve years. IF they get “control” in january, just consider the amount of malfeasance and corruption and crass immorality it has taken to get the republicans out of power. there is an imbalance that we must not forget. even if the democrats get “control” it will still be an uphill battle to really, fundamentally change public perception about who should be in power. the job will have been only begun……..
Pickles and the kids will be offered amnesty and they can do community service for 20 years.
Therapy for war wounded.
-GSD
in case of sh*tty election outcomes, we’ll have to take it up with the Federal Elections Commission. it will be a FECal matter.
good night, everybody…
Judge Orders Cheney Visitor Logs Opened
http://www.breitbart.com/news/…..QR401.html
Can of worms, Anyone? And with that I bid you all a good night. May all your Karma be good Karma.
Nighty night, OC!
punaise, won’t help if it’s FECkless
Helpless Dancer @ 88
I’d take a bit of a different tack — it’s only a red herring if you get too worked up about it being the only problem, or let it make you demoralized.
But when I talk about this to non-technical people I do emphasize that there doesn’t have to be tampering for us to have a major problem. I find the most outrageous part to be that the voting machines must be custom-programmed by consultants for every election. In a couple of weeks, I could create a ballot-design system that any state polling office could use with a minimum of training to configure voting machines. Absolutely the only reason for them to be designed this way is to generate additional revenue for the manufacturer, so they can make the up-front price lower, and lock in the election officials.
But the result is that these machines are custom-programmed by contract programmers on a short time schedule. I’ve seen software written under those conditions, and for anything critical, it’s a recipe for disaster.
Don’t everyone just sit there with happy looks on your faces… ARGUE.
What’s wrong with you people tonight?
Let’s see…. who’s with me? Fahrender, Old Coastie and Punaise ARE ALL ANTI-CATCHY SONG.
The rest of you are all just sink au phants. THIS IS WHY WE LOSE…. BECAUSE WE’RE LOSERS… or something.
OK, one last comment and then to bed. I’m trying to stay on topic here.
In GA the absentee votes are ‘normally’ counted after the close of polls, and by the “Absentee ballot manager”, presumably one per polling station? Would this be a special officer, one of the poll workers or always the manager of that poll? If so, that’s the fox watching the chicken coop.
Any idea if the counting can be viewed by the public? Da-yum. Paper ballots are only useful if they are all properly counted in the first place,ie, not disappeared. They are more recountable than digits but they only get recounted if there is a reason to suspect fraud or error.
How would you know to demand a recount if you don’t know that the count has been rigged? And what would a recount prove if the ballots had been disappeared?
Problems with voting in 2000- not fixeed
Problems in 2002- not fixed
Problems in 2004- not fixed
Now we’re looking at problems in 2006 and not enough time to to fix them.
Not enough time? Six years ought to have been enough time, why do we still have so many problems?
We still have problems because after every one of these elections the people who are outraged and try to get something done are either ignored or told they’re ‘crazy’ by people who claim to be on the side of the angels but insist that before THEY will take such charges seriously they have to see absolute proof that enough votes were stolen to change the outcome of the election. The answer is, as everyone says: Win Big. Then we have to hold the Democrats feet to the fire on this no matter what the folks who keep saying; “Don’t rock the boat paranoid crazy people” do.
The crappy state of the voting system is another Bush and Republican Congress failure.
They do nothing right except win elections.
-GSD
GSD @ 112
or steal them?
Mailed off my first ever absentee ballot this week. Am kicking self for not doing this years ago. Much easier and I like the feel of putting pen to paper.
Let’s see…. who’s with me? Fahrender, Old Coastie and Punaise ARE ALL ANTI-CATCHY SONG.
actually it’s fun and infectious. I was just offering alternatives.
patrick rex @ 109
Persi likes song, singing song. Mr Persi looks long-suffering. Persicats are divided, one completely ignoring song, the other flicking tail in time. And I am so not a stinky phant! (Wish I could comment knowledgably on Diebold but know nothing of electronic voting. Here in the Great South Land, we manage to effect democracy with such low-tech implements as a ballot paper marked with a pencil on a string. Counted by hand by real people with party scrutineers standing behind them to make sure they don’t make a mistake.)
patrick rex @
99
watched that for the first time last weekend. depressing, indeed. rather muddled and confusing, but still compelling.
Curious in Central Texas @
113
They convince people that they win elections.
-GSD
Syriana, sayanora mon peteite pamplemousse.
-GSD
GSD: I understand and agree with you. Hopefully more people will begin to think.
Oh, seems like it is Giuliani Time again. Let’s use this story and tell people this is what youngsters reared on Abu Ghraib do.
Plumbing the depths of depravity.
-GSD
I am eating a sliced fuji apple and chunky peanut butter and couldn’t be happier.
Peanut butter is one of the food of the Gods.
-GSD
patrick rex @ 109
There’s no point in arguing. Either art moves you or it doesn’t.
If I can’t eat skippy super-chunk, I don’t want any part of your goddamn revolution.
Clothodi @
111
The Annals of Democracy article I referenced above described what was pretty clearly a voting machine fraud in GA in 1980. Cover-up included CES computer folks, polling officials and finally a judge. Some perjury apparently went down as well. This has been going on for a *long* time.
Cujo359 @ 124
Cujo, he’s making vurrry snarky reference to some shit that went down on last night’s late nite thread.
GSD @ 118
Yeah, I’d say instead that they do nothing successfully except win elections, ’cause they definitely don’t do that ‘right’.
TRex @ 127
No I’m not, you fascist!!
OK, maybe a little.
TRex @ 122
I just had a fortune cookie. It says “Someone is speaking well of you.”
TRex @ 125
I hope skippy doesn’t object.
The shotgunning massacre of habeus corpus.
Ugly, ugly, ugly.
-GSD
patrick rex @ 109
Personally, I’m against arguing, and I’ll fight anyone who disagrees with me!
Redshift @ 130
That was me. I was just saying, “I love Redshift. Where’s he at, tonight?”
I hope skippy doesn’t object.
We’re old friends. He understands.
TRex @ 135
I dunno, TRex, he might take exception being called super chunk.
TRex @ 127
Then our humor is working at cross-purposes. Speaking of art, I have a play to read. See you guys later.
TRex @
122
Fuji apples are the best! But peanut butter still makes them better. :)
TRex, I love super chunk peanut butter. I’m getting some tomorrow! I’ve never had a fuji apple, though.
Sing-song at the Bush protest tonight: Bush and Allen sitting in a tree, K-i-l-l-i-n-g!
Well, it’s been fun, as always, but I’m trying really hard to get back to getting to bed by 2am (at least until it gets closer to Election Day), so I’m going to sign off. Good night, all!
Dana, was that you who posted on an earlier thread about the best sign at the Virginia protest?
I’ll see your Fuji apple and raise you two supine canines…
I am lying in between the two sweetest bird dogs in Georgia. And since they’re southern and have the nicest manners, well, they may be the sweetest bird dogs anywhere.
The missus is out of town.
She opened On Golden Pond tonight at the State Theater of Georgia. I was too broke to drive the three hours there to attend. Such is the glamorous life of two professional creative people.
Apparently, she (yet again) brought down the house, and the audience leapt (LEAPT!) to its feet when she took her curtain call.
TheOtherWA @ 138
Staymans are my favorite. They’re hard to find in the stores, but my parents went apple-picking, so I’ve got a bag full of yummy Stayman apples in the fridge!
Dana @ 139
Fuji apples are incredibly sweet and juicy. They’re my absolute favorite. Perfectly crisp, never mealy. This one was literally so juicy that I had to wipe the screen when I was done.
TRex @ 125
Laura Scudder’s chunky – peanut paste of the proletariat….
damn, now i’m hungry
I’m drinking apple wine tonight and trying not to freak out that Rep. Lewis fired the investigators on his committee. This had better make it thru the thick skulls of the msm tomorrow and be a lead story. It deserves to be.
Who’s Lewis’s opponent for his seat this race? I’m sure it’s a long shot, since no one has been mentioning that race at all, but I bet he or she gets some notice now.
Where do they grow? In the fall here in the northwest, half the produce dept is apples, but I’ve never heard of Stayman.
Suzanne, I posted the one at top of this thread: Best protest sign seen in Virginia at a Bush protest today: “Monica Lewinsky has had more president in her than George Bush will ever have.”
TRex, Now I’m so hungry. Whenever people talk about how juicy a piece of fruit is, I crave the pear, the apple, the orange, etc.
A friend and I had Nutella and strawberries one night in the spring, but the strawberries were so juicy, that the Nutella was kind of awash. We ended up giving up on it and just having the strawberries. We had juice running down to our elbows.
TheOtherWA @
138
great combo. with natural peanut butter, not the processed stuff.
peanut butter and celery
peanut butter and banana
blast from the past: peanut butter and pickle sandwiches
TRex, I hate you. :)
D’ja ever have peanut butter and alfafa sprouts? I didn’t like it.
Dana @ 148
Dana, just wanted to say that is the best sign I’ve seen since the “Would someone give George Bush a blowjob so we can impeach him” sign. Thanks.
Dana @ 152
ew?
TRex has given the thread the munchies.
Dana @ 152
that’s pushing the p.b. envelope a bit much
BTW, the Pinker Tones are very cute boys.
As far as what to do, I would counsel against some big campaign right now to scare people about voting. With only three weeks left, there’s not much constructive that can be done, regarding systems. Even with absentee ballots, they’re designed to be run through optical scanners, anyway, so they’re not hand-counted, at least initially.
The real place to fudge the results is at the county tabulators, and then count on delays and active interference by Repug election officials in setting up and approving recounts. That’s the lesson from Ohio in 2004.
What I would advise everyone to do, and pronto, is call your county registrar and make sure you’re still registered and haven’t been purged without your knowledge. Fitrakis is going bugshit about this happening in Ohio right now. Said notices were sent out, but they were designed to look like junk mail, rather than official correspondence, and several hundred thousand have been bumped off the rolls thus far, most without their knowledge.
Cheers.
Just back on-line after a 5 hour power outage. Looks like there’s lots of munchies to be had but no pie. Did all the pie get tossed last night?
the interesting thing is they’re not apples but pears. they’re Asian pears.
on the voting topic, this all depends on you stste. The best defense is to vote in such overwhelming numbers, that it defeates any fraud.
I an telling everyone that they have to take 5 people to vote, make sure. Those 5 have to do the same. Overwhelming numbers.
Jerry Lewis from Wikipedia:
“In 2006, Lewis is running against Louie Contreras, the owner of an insurance brokerage company.[2] In July 2006 it was reported that Lewis had used $200,000 of his campaign funds to pay Los Angeles-based law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP, to retain the services of its lawyers.[3] Lewis is connected to an ongoing federal investigation (see below).”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lewis_(politician)
RBG @ 159
there was pie and pastry a few threads back, starting with peaches here
punaise @
156
I saw The Peanut Butter Envelope at the Fillmore in 72. Talk about the munchies…
Patrick 4/4 @ 163
did they jam with Moby Grape?
Ummmm…peach pie…my favorite. Although I’m also fond of pie with no upper crust. Thanks punaise.
did they jam with Moby Grape
they forgot to set their strawberry alarm clock.
punaise @ 164
Did they ever. Oddly enough nobody at the time got my Cherry Garcia reference.
punaise @ 164
or get it on with The Muffins?
Thanks Jinny @161!
Was “Jam Up and Jelly Tight” their hit song?
montag @ 168
and a set with The Strawberry Alarm Clock.
Or they set the strawberry alarm clock. I forget.
Ha, beat ya to it, Patrick 4/4!
You guys are making me berry uncomfortable.
Dana @ 170
no way! “Man”…( or was it Caravan)
And got The Seeds stuck in their teeth….
Suzanne @ 172
I bow to your speedy fingers.
Easy with the nested comments, guys, you blow out the margins…
TRex @ 177
resist the ziggurat
TRex @ 177
I saw The Nested Comments in ‘73.
I’m so sorry I ever wrote about peanut butter and alfafa sprouts now that’s carried over in long quoted boxes. Yikes! Bon nuit, kiwis (of the lake.)
marmalade skies
Patrick 4/4, fastest fingers in 9th grade typing class and that was back in the
themanual typewriter day.Patrick 4/4 @ 179
A very advanced techno-pop group–well ahead of their time….
I saw The Nested Comments in ‘73.
They opened for The Concern Trolls on that tour, didn’t they?
Friday’s WSJ Online:
Republicans’ Cash Advantage
Ebbs as Vote Nears
http://tinyurl.com/sk2c2
Goodnight and indigestion free sweet dreams!
punaise @ 178
I had ziggurat in my backyard in Laurel Canyon – a two-sided concrete staircase that led to the house on the hill behind it.
My house was the one Gram Parsons all but burned down a month before he died.
TRex @ 173
Orange ya’ glad to see us?
Orange ya’ glad to see us?
Nope. Banana in my pocket.
Lettuce help make you comfortable.
ABC “The Blotter”
(CLICK)
the seeds from Blind Melon or the Lemonheads
Nope. Banana in my pocket.
Cantaloupe with that.
Suzanne @ 182
I grew up Catholic, so we just had the monks illuminate our homework.
Breakfast in America
punaise @ 194
Or, more provincially, Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
punaise @ 194
Oh lord. Summer of 79 – every damn song on the album on the radio all summer long.
TRex, did I misread one of your earlier comments? I thought you were talking about Troggs
Hard to find good peanut butter down here, and everyone looks at you funny if you buy it. This in a place where they eat Vegemite – industrial waste in a little yellow jar. The scary part is it has no use by date, there’s no way to tell if it has gone off.
MY GF loves it. Oh well.
petedownunder @ 198
Maybe it never does… like Twinkies. :)
I love vegemite. I used to have a tshirt that said “SODOMITE” in the vegemite logo style.
I wonder what happened to that shirt.
TRex, did you ever find a link for your radio appearance?
inna gadda da vegemite
montag @ 199
When archaeologists in the year 3008 dig down into the roof of long buried 7-11, the twinkies will still be as fresh and wholesome as they are today.
Here’s one for sale.
Hey, Pete, if I sent you some cash, could you hook me up with one of these?
Peanut butter & bananas !
Yum, yum…
More Instant Karma please
“The first lesson of democracy is not to hold the public in contempt.” – Ronnie Earle
T-Rex: I think some of the Vegemite around here is as old as you are, the label on the jar is a little faded after 65 million years, but inside..good as new.
petedownunder @ 203
Which is to say, not very. :)
Talking Heads – (Nothing But) Flowers
montag @ 207
What’s the difference between (insert name of someone skanky) and a three year old Twinkie?
If you absolutely have to, you can eat the Twinkie/
TRex @ 204
T-Rex: I’ll get on it right away, what size does a Theropod wear? I suspect it has a whole bunch of xxxxes. Seriously post your size and I’ll get it ordered. I have to go back to the states for a few days next week but I’ll ship it to you when I get back. I have an email address for you and I’ll send an email with my contact details so I can get an address and stuff.
Don’t worry about cash, consider it my contribution to Late Night.
In US t-shirts I wear a medium or so. I’m 6′, 180lbs, pretty slim.
Gosh, it sounds like I’m writing a personal ad.
TRex @
211
You mean like Uri Geller, a medium like that?
I’m just asking…
It is 2 in the morning here, people. And I’m trying to sleep.
Actually, I have a stomach problem and what do I have to read about? Peanut butter and sprouts. omg
Anyone see the Cafferty special tonight on cnn? Did I miss the thread on it?
slippery slope for Trex. just like that, the first whiff of graft sets in. soon he’ll be collecting snark protection “donations”.
naw. Jane and her taser will keep him from slip sliding away.
punaise @ 214
Only a little graft. Moderation in all things…
Patrick 4/4 @ 216
“sure would be a shame if something happened to put you in a snarky Late Nite post.”
Suzanne @ 215
It’d be like those invisible doggie fences – one nested comment too many and Zap.
It is pretty clever how he gets someone else to do his on-line shopping for him.
I`d say the Talking Heads were just a little ahead of their time on this one
“Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day,” – Thomas Jefferson
How to Grow the Peanut and 105 Ways of Preparing it for Human Consumption
Seventh Edition, January 1940
By GEORGE CARVER, M. S. in Agr., Director
EXPERIMENTAL STATION, TUSKEGEE INSTITUTE,
Tuskegee Institute, Alabama
Reprinted 1983 for Tuskegee Institute National Historic Site, George Washington Carver National Monument by Eastern National Park and Monument Association
Of all the money crops grown by Macon County farmers, perhaps there are none more promising than the peanut in its several varieties and their almost limitless possibilities.
Of the many good things in their favor, the following stand out as most prominent:
1.Like all other members of the pod-bearing family, they enrich the soil.
2.They are easily and cheaply grown.
3.For man the nuts possess a wider range of food values than any other legume.
4.The nutritive value of the hay as a stock food compares favorably with that of the cowpea.
5.They are easy to plant, easy to grow, and easy to harvest.
6.The great food-and-forage value of the peanut will increase in proportion to the rapidity with which we make it a real study. This will increase consumption, and, therefore, must increase production.
7.In Macon County, two crops per year of the Spanish variety can be raised.
8.The peanut exerts a dietetic or a medicinal effect upon the human system that is very desirable.
9.doubt if there is another foodstuff that can be so universally eaten, in some form, by every individual.
10.Pork fattened from peanuts and hardened off with a little corn just before killing, is almost if not quite equal to the famous red-gravy hams, or the world renowned Beechnut breakfast bacon.
11.The nuts yield a high percentage of oil of superior quality.
12.The clean cake, after the oil has been removed, is very high in muscle-building properties (protein), and the ease with which the meal blends in with flour, meal, etc., makes it of especial value to bakers, confectioners, candy-makers, and ice cream factories.
13.Peanut oil is one of the best known vegetable oils.
14.A pound of peanuts contain a little more of the body-building nutrients than a pound of sirloin steak, while of the heat and energy producing nutrients it has more than twice as much.
RBG @ 219
*SMACK!*
SHUT.
UP.
You’ll ruin EVERYTHING!!
There. I just set my alarm clock. Time for bed.
You kids play nice, now.
Good night!
Patrick 4/4 @ 221
If you want the actual recipes, go here.
USA Today has the story about Lewis firing the investigation staff. I hope this snowball turns into an avalanche.
I hope it turns into a snowball of Nixonian purportions.
Patrick 4/4 @ 218
Gee, and I thought busting the margins meant we all got big monitors. :)
Suzanne @ 226
Alas, it will likely end up being a
snowstraw man of Bushian proportions.Patrick 4/4 @
224
Don’t let Christy catch you trading Peanut recipes.
“It was an unauthorized patch, and they were trying to keep it secret from the state,” Hood told me. “We were told not to talk to county personnel about it. I received instructions directly from Urosevich. It was very unusual that a president of the company would give an order like that and be involved at that level.”
hey t-rex… that’s because they distibuted a “patch” (in other words a hack) and threw the election like they are going to do again which is why rove and buddies are so smug and calm….
anybody who is in the know regarding programming and the computer hacking scene will tell you how easy it is to do so, especially if you’ve got an inside man, in this case, the prez of diebold, a known bush-luvin republiCON, who IMHO is definitely suspect given all the reports of vote tampering efforts documented and easily accessible via the web… it’s just plain stupid already to assume that these guys have or will ever act in good faith… if we want accountability then demand that the software’s code be opensourced (for the non technically inclined that means the code is open to the public for all to see) immediately in the interest of transparency…. that way any mysterious, last minute “patches” implemented are accounted for and at least you have one less vector for fraud and tampering available to these devious, better yet, treasonous bastards… if you read a bit about hacking and truly get into a hackers mindset, one immediately understands that not only is it technologically possible to hack virtually any machine in some form or fashion nowadays, it is several times easier when you have are the one who designed or maintains the code, have a set up where only you can access that code, and have the means to cover your ass if someone raises an eyebrow at your code which incidently is supposed to be flawless for something as important as an honest election. so i agree with donuts, be scared shitless and don’t fool yourselves that its beneath or beyond a party so desperate to retain power.
opensource the code immediately, file lawsuits to make that happen, round up and challenge a bunch of computer geeks and hackers and professors to back your cause in the interest of preserving democracy, whatEVER it takes man… call up carter and get him to bring bill gates or bono or clinton or WHOever it takes to wake these suckers up and let them know we are know how to use computers too if you know what i’m sayin’…. even kevin mitnick will tell you the fundamentals behind hacking is the manipulating of human behavior to your advantage… let rove and his bunch of thugs have that advantage then sadly we deserve to suffer this nonsense time and again because we are too afraid to call a spade when its a spade, and wallow in our own collective low-level technological understanding of computersbecause “it’s too technical” and because the ones in charge tell us “not to worry about it” and to “trust them”.
sorry if i’m ranting but this kind of stuff is NOT mere conspiracy theory or beating a dead horse as in-denial repubs would have us believe… there’s definitely a reason this stuff is not reported on in the media and you only need to research who heads each of those media outlets and in what are their political leanings to understand why legitimate stories are conveniently brushed aside for constant, mindless, broken-record news like the democrats are weak on national defense or some sort of drivel….
and seriously, someone independent needs to just make a website that tallies everyones uniquely verified email ballot or something and compare it to the election results so we regular folk have something to compare to…
thats my 50 cents
The BlackBoxVoting folks have at least two initiatives re election fraud – a national hand counting registry and a citizen’s tool kit.
blackboxvoting homepage
Citizen’s Tool Kit
VerifiedVoting’s guide to election observation rules state-by-state
Nan
good morning, firepups,
rainy here in central jersey [and it’s an archie & mehitabel morning, with no caps].
mr. njp & i will be doing some volunteering for linda stender, the progressive democrat running against mike ferguson in nj-07.
i’m also going to do a little calling through moveon.org.
and i sent an email to the 157 members, past and present, of my knitting group, to remind them to vote [i was very polite and sent a nonpartisan email, with links to the nj division of elections and the league of women voters for information about candidates and ballot issues, and a link to a really cool secure website where you can get information about your polling place, without worrying about putting personal information out there in the toobz]
i think i’ll make up several small tags about voting, something i can slip into one of those little plastic nametag holders to pin onto my jacket, my backpack, my knitting bag, and even some extras to give away to people. this is one time when i want to wear my beliefs on my sleeve. ;-)
give what you can, of your money and your time. be creative. talk to everyone, starting with family and friends, and don’t be afraid to talk to strangers [sorry, mom]. this election is essential. with the grass- and netroots working this hard, we will make a difference.
work for peace, every day!
Good morning, everyone. Maybe everyone else is having as quiet a Friday as I am? Or is it that we’re all just awaiting Christy’s new thread? *g*
Not to be too pessimistic, but if there’s a voting irregularity profound enough to get to a lawsuit, have the Shrub et al. convinced themselves that packing the federal courts will solve their problems? In my tin-foil hat moments, that’s what I believe that’s the eventuality the GOP was planning for with the Roberts and Alito ascensions to the Court.
Wow, it was awfully quiet here after 3am ET.
Everybody must have been resting up for the weekend!
T Rex @ 211,
Do you like long walks on the beach? Not into “playing games?” Add these and you’ve got your add!!!
fgd,
certainly alito supports the unitary executive, but i’m not as convinced that roberts does [stops to adjust tin foil hat].
mr. njp and i were discussing vote theft last night, when he got home from the princeton peace group meeting. mr. njp was a journalist for a number of years covering nj politics, so he’s seen some bad stuff over the years, from both parties. he pointed out that voter disenfranchisement and voter suppression has been going on for years–but chiefly suppressing the votes of people of color. diebold et al is suppressing the votes of white people, hence the greater visibility of the issue in the media.
it’s not that there weren’t problems in ohio in 2004. but, according to mr. njp, more will be done through low tech means to suppress turn out than through tampering with electronic voting machine code. just look at the spanish-language mailing in california, done by the republican candidate [a naturalized citizen, born in viet nam], that now has the republican party in orange county calling for the candidate to step down!
more will be done to suppress the vote by having an inadequate number of voting machines of any type at urban polling places than by hacking machines anywhere.
that doesn’t mean that i don’t expect more of the fiascos that hit maryland in the primary–what a mess that was. so as kent jones says on the rachel madow show “vigilance!”
coffee, anyone?
have a good day, and do everything you can!
Yeah, njp, even as I posted it, I was thinking the very same thing. There’s certainly precedent in the Court for nominees to change their views once actually there, and he’s young enough that I see the potential. Between election disenfranchisement, the federalization of the National Guard, the stripping of habeas corpus… sheesh. As I was saying to Mrs. FGD last night, I long for the days when those crazy tin-foil hat thoughts were really just that!
Morning all. A slow start in rainy eastern Maine. Mmmmm, prayers for Tommy & Esten and all, and best wishes for a peace-and-justice-active sort of day!
Morning FDL…
It’s 5:00AM and time for me to go to bed but I worked all night on a BlueAmerica Campaign Trail video blog update. They’ll get more professional (and less bleary-eyed) in the following vidoecasts leading to the election but I finally got it set up to work here. More definitely on their way.
Can any of my FDL friends help me get it to Howie and Jane. I’m too exhausted to email it around to the BlueAmerica teams.
Woohoo… A half mile walk through the cold morning air (remember, I’m still on Hawaiian temps) and 5 hours of sleep.
Mornin’. Nate I’ve been supporting Charlie Brown because of your inspiring example.
Morning egregious… Thanks so much for that. Charlie is worth supporting all on his own but it’s nice to hear I’m helping to keep people as pumped about him as I am. This guy is a born winner.
Think I should do more of these campaign trail updates? They’ll get better and more professional now that I’m set up.
Hi Eegee, How’s the day?
I gotta run e… I need to power down at least for a few hours. This wasn’t supposed to take me more than 3 hours when I came in to work on it tonight. It’s now been almost 9 hours.
Good mornin’ to all and to me a good night! :)
Hey egregious, every little thing OK?
Nate @ 242
More? Definitely! Keep ‘em coming.
NATE!!! That rocks! I e-mailed Christy with the link.
immanentize @ 246
Good. These things are storms, they develop, happen, and fade. Thanks for the love. btw your u tube link didn’t load.
TPM Poll this AM…
CT-SEN Quinnipiac Oct 20 Lieberman (CFL) 52%, Lamont (D) 35%
Got ‘em right where we want ‘em!
egregious — sorry about the bad link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f837T8×0rUo
(Bryan Ferry, Avalon — Live)
test
Balrog @ 250
REMEMBER!!
This poll was in the field before the debates (so that is some small ray of hope). However, it is just devastating for any lamont momentum.
OUCH!
Hey cbl — Thanks for the Tommy Yum site. I just haven’t collected my thought sufficiently to post, but I will!
Good gosh – 17 points behind. He was losing ground all the time since the primary. Really, how can people say ‘oh he is going to come back now’ … waaay too far. Sure he will make up some ground – but not 17 points. Not even Patty Wetterling was 17 points behind and this is the reddest district in Minnesota. And Minnesota was waaaay more purple than CT. I doubt that any national dems will campaign for Ned in the final weeks.
immanentize @
253
I am keeping my perspective on this.
Who in the feck would EVER choose Joe over anyone in a poll? The rest of the country seems to be waking; why not CT?
This one’s an outlier.
GrandmaJ @ 255
kerry will be there the 25th.
but it’s really up to us…. volunteer, donate…
Balrog, if things don’t turn around I am counting on you to grab Joe and plunge into the absolute center of middle earth. There is no way that prick could smite you on the mountaintop.
Good Morning All,
don’t know what happened w/ my original comment to Nate – sweet dreams Progressive Soldier
imm- just glad you saw the link
no joy in Pachaville :{
Morning, gang. Fresh thread, available up top.
Well, Menendez really doesn’t want my vote!
Read this and then go complaign at the senator’s website.
I’ve been a software engineer for more than a quarter century. I’ve never worn a tin-foil hat. I have worked on air traffic control, where lives are at stake. I have worked on systems where security is vital.
Yes, there are lots of ways of screwing with an election. But electronic voting makes it an order of magnitude easier. In almost any other instance, you’d need the cooperation of the local elections supervisor. Not so with these machines. Most schemes involve messing with ballots or voters. With these machines you can mess with the counting – just ignore what the “ballot” says.
Specific to Diebold – the underlying technology and the code is pure crap. Hell, in the 90s I made a good living getting companies *off* the same technologies and onto stuff that works. This is like trying to build a skyscraper with tools you bought from the discount bin at Ace Hardware.
Better vote absentee. Best still is the move in many states to demand paper ballots.
Msp @
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Thank you for posting that. And what a beautiful rant it was! That’s what we all should be doing about this issue right now: screaming and yelling. And, TRex, thanks for starting this thread.
The electronic voting thing is the lock on power the neocons need in order to survive. This election issue is about life and death for them. Is it for you, or is it just about issues? Honestly? The neocons are a cornered animal and will do ANYTHING to hold onto power.
We’re at a very dicey place. The media, as we all know, isn’t quite doing it’s job as well as it should. Their coverage of this issue has sucked. What’s interesting is that when things look bad for BushCo the news coverage gets more hostile. We’ve even seen some conservatives sticking the knife in these past few weeks. Okay, no surprises there. But what happens to the criticisms if the Republicons win? Hmmm, it suddenly got much quieter, with most folks getting back in line. If Bush “weathers” this storm the media and the president will take it as a mandate.
Seems to me Rove and the rest of ‘em know exactly what they need to do to keep their egoic dream rolling right along. And what they need to do is really simple: win elections. They’ve been building a manipulatable system for years. Computers are not the only tool in their toolbox, as many folks have pointed out. No, not the only tool, but potentially their most powerful and covert, with the ability to control elections from a virtually centralized point and sculpt them so that they look realistic and yet always work out the way you want.
This issue is also interesting for another reason: it shows very clearly the power of knowledge. The vast majority of software engineers who are told the specifics of this issue become concerned very quickly because they can connect the dots. They know how easy it is to hack something like a voting machine and they know how untraceable such a hack could be. In short, they understand the state of hardware and software in 2006.
Most people don’t really get it because they just don’t understand the universe that is computers. They think maybe that somewhere, somehow, someone must have made sure everything really works as it should. Newsflash: they haven’t. Your votes aren’t safe. Your votes are being stolen. The machines are a security consultant’s nightmare and a fascist’s wet dream.
All I can say is if you are non-technical and still have that dreamlike “I’m an American and my vote is safe” feeling then you should consume more information. Read, talk to a geek, whatever. But this is the issue that will make all the other dirty tricks seem like child’s play.
We need a plan and it needs to be advertised! Civil disobedience, a.k.a. non-violent direct action is, IMO, critical. It will garner the media attention that this issue has lacked and will help energize the other modes of resistance that Msp mentioned. We have 2 1/2 weeks. That’s plenty of time for this to spread throughout the blogsphere.
The reason fascists fall is that the oppressed know they aren’t free and resist. But if you can fool them into thinking they’re free… give them a vote with several “real” choices… hmmm… that just might work. In a sense we’re currently experiencing the natural selection process at work. It just happens to be selecting for a more robust fascism right now.
njprogressive @
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Can’t get there from here. :(
Okay, now you’ve gone and done it. I actually watched the damn video. I thought ringing in my ears was bad, but now this.