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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-335351</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe has always wanted us to be impressed by his moral superiority and religious piety.  Yet he seems unimpressed by the estimated 650,000 innocent deaths his favorite war has inflicted on Iraqis.  Are the God-fearing, church-going people of CT going to relect this amoral man?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe has always wanted us to be impressed by his moral superiority and religious piety.  Yet he seems unimpressed by the estimated 650,000 innocent deaths his favorite war has inflicted on Iraqis.  Are the God-fearing, church-going people of CT going to relect this amoral man?</p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334927</link>
		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;it is a small, but essential piece of American recovery from our succumbing to cult of republicanism insanity that the likes of joe losermon go down. losermon is a poster child for the problem - he has nothing to offer as part of the solution.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a small, but essential piece of American recovery from our succumbing to cult of republicanism insanity that the likes of joe losermon go down. losermon is a poster child for the problem &#8211; he has nothing to offer as part of the solution.<br />
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		<title>By: jello5929</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334913</link>
		<dc:creator>jello5929</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-334839&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @&lt;br /&gt;
                44              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If dems win the senate- then theoretically- they won’t have to worry about the fillibuster. They’ll have a  majority on the judiciary committee and Clusterfuck appointees won’t ever make it to the floor of the senate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not true.  As a condition for not switching, Joe will probably ask for membership on those key committees.  So then a majority of the committee will vote to send it to the floor, where again Joe will get to be the spoiler.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure that Joe and Karl can add this all up just as well as I can.  One way or another, if Joe wins he gets to be the deciding vote on all the good committees.  The fact that he has to vote however Karl tells him to vote doesn’t matter: to Joe he still gets the glory of being the key vote.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-334839"><em>rwcole @<br />
                44              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If dems win the senate- then theoretically- they won’t have to worry about the fillibuster. They’ll have a  majority on the judiciary committee and Clusterfuck appointees won’t ever make it to the floor of the senate.</p>
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<p>Not true.  As a condition for not switching, Joe will probably ask for membership on those key committees.  So then a majority of the committee will vote to send it to the floor, where again Joe will get to be the spoiler.</p>
<p>I’m sure that Joe and Karl can add this all up just as well as I can.  One way or another, if Joe wins he gets to be the deciding vote on all the good committees.  The fact that he has to vote however Karl tells him to vote doesn’t matter: to Joe he still gets the glory of being the key vote.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334883</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mrs. K8– that was a wonderful comment and maybe &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; prayers are finally being answered and it is not truth serum at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just truth and lots of technology and a more aware  and aching world.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. K8– that was a wonderful comment and maybe <em>our</em> prayers are finally being answered and it is not truth serum at all.</p>
<p>Just truth and lots of technology and a more aware  and aching world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334878</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Edward Teller –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those comments by Tamir are &lt;b&gt;truly astonishing&lt;/b&gt;!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks very much for that.  I’m not sure I would’ve believed it if I hadn’t read it with my own eyes.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, it’s one thing to *suspect* or even *believe* what you think some people might be harboring in their own private, fenced-off mental landscapes.  It’s another thing entirely when they open their mouths and erase all doubt with blunt statements like that.  Truly remarkable.  While I’ve been focused on the unmasking of our own homegrown racists, I now see this phenomenon extends well beyond our shores.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. K8 and I have been praying, every night for a very long time now, that those who love to do evil, those who are greedy and corrupt, those who exploit the vulnerable and poor of the world may be exposed &lt;b&gt;by their very own words and deeds.&lt;/b&gt;  And that they may be caught in the very snares they set for others.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lately our evening prayers have included many expressions of gratitude for seeing this plea of ours answered daily in the headlines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[I don’t suppose someone’s putting a new truth serum here and there in the water supply, huh?]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward Teller –</p>
<p>Those comments by Tamir are <b>truly astonishing</b>!!!</p>
<p>Thanks very much for that.  I’m not sure I would’ve believed it if I hadn’t read it with my own eyes.  </p>
<p>I mean, it’s one thing to *suspect* or even *believe* what you think some people might be harboring in their own private, fenced-off mental landscapes.  It’s another thing entirely when they open their mouths and erase all doubt with blunt statements like that.  Truly remarkable.  While I’ve been focused on the unmasking of our own homegrown racists, I now see this phenomenon extends well beyond our shores.</p>
<p>Mr. K8 and I have been praying, every night for a very long time now, that those who love to do evil, those who are greedy and corrupt, those who exploit the vulnerable and poor of the world may be exposed <b>by their very own words and deeds.</b>  And that they may be caught in the very snares they set for others.</p>
<p>Lately our evening prayers have included many expressions of gratitude for seeing this plea of ours answered daily in the headlines.</p>
<p>[I don’t suppose someone’s putting a new truth serum here and there in the water supply, huh?]</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334877</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-334866&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ed*ard Teller @ 69&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;also OT, this is pretty wierd.  Comments by Naftali Tamir, Israeli Ambassador to Australia to a reporter from Ha’Aretz:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Israel and Australia are like sisters in Asia,” Tamir said in an interview with Haaretz during a visit to Israel this week. “We are in Asia without the characteristics of Asians. We don’t have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not - we are basically the white race. We are on the western side of Asia and they are on the southeastern side.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;link:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html&quot;&gt;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you think Tamir’s comments are nutty, read the reader comments below the article.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;omg. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can’t get into the comments(?) but sheesh, talk about an utter lack of diplomacy and brains and total racism.  Wonder what the Aborigines and other indigenous people think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-334866"><em>Ed*ard Teller @ 69</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>also OT, this is pretty wierd.  Comments by Naftali Tamir, Israeli Ambassador to Australia to a reporter from Ha’Aretz:</p>
<p><em>“Israel and Australia are like sisters in Asia,” Tamir said in an interview with Haaretz during a visit to Israel this week. “We are in Asia without the characteristics of Asians. We don’t have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not &#8211; we are basically the white race. We are on the western side of Asia and they are on the southeastern side.”</em></p>
<p>link:  <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html</a></p>
<p>if you think Tamir’s comments are nutty, read the reader comments below the article.</p>
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<p>omg. </p>
<p>can’t get into the comments(?) but sheesh, talk about an utter lack of diplomacy and brains and total racism.  Wonder what the Aborigines and other indigenous people think.</p>
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		<title>By: pow wow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334872</link>
		<dc:creator>pow wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ETeller - I think you’ll appreciate the take on Richard Armitage in Elizabeth’s article that Rayne linked to @65, judging from the information about Armitage you gave us.  De la Vega’s analysis is very perceptive and enlightening, I think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ETeller &#8211; I think you’ll appreciate the take on Richard Armitage in Elizabeth’s article that Rayne linked to @65, judging from the information about Armitage you gave us.  De la Vega’s analysis is very perceptive and enlightening, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334871</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;new thread - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/spendthrift-republicans/&quot;&gt;Spendthrift Republicans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you say “Follow the Money”? Sure you could.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new thread &#8211; <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/spendthrift-republicans/">Spendthrift Republicans</a></p>
<p>Can you say “Follow the Money”? Sure you could.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334868</link>
		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So Australia is in Asia? Whooda thunk it? Thought it was a continent. LIVE AND LEARN.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Australia is in Asia? Whooda thunk it? Thought it was a continent. LIVE AND LEARN.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed*ard Teller</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/13/loyalty/#comment-334866</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed*ard Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;also OT, this is pretty wierd.  Comments by Naftali Tamir, Israeli Ambassador to Australia to a reporter from Ha’Aretz:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Israel and Australia are like sisters in Asia,” Tamir said in an interview with Haaretz during a visit to Israel this week. “We are in Asia without the characteristics of Asians. We don’t have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not - we are basically the white race. We are on the western side of Asia and they are on the southeastern side.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;link:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html&quot;&gt;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you think Tamir’s comments are nutty, read the reader comments below the article.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also OT, this is pretty wierd.  Comments by Naftali Tamir, Israeli Ambassador to Australia to a reporter from Ha’Aretz:</p>
<p><em>“Israel and Australia are like sisters in Asia,” Tamir said in an interview with Haaretz during a visit to Israel this week. “We are in Asia without the characteristics of Asians. We don’t have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not &#8211; we are basically the white race. We are on the western side of Asia and they are on the southeastern side.”</em></p>
<p>link:  <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html</a></p>
<p>if you think Tamir’s comments are nutty, read the reader comments below the article.</p>
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