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		<title>By: JupiterPluvius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333992</link>
		<dc:creator>JupiterPluvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just flicked through and saw that Jack Cafferty has a one-hour CNN special on “Broken Government” next Thursday night.  He said “It’s your show, really; write in, send videos, whatever.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think there must be some fdl’ers with stuff to share with Cranky Jack, yes?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just flicked through and saw that Jack Cafferty has a one-hour CNN special on “Broken Government” next Thursday night.  He said “It’s your show, really; write in, send videos, whatever.”</p>
<p>I think there must be some fdl’ers with stuff to share with Cranky Jack, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333945</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HopeSAT!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(new thread)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HopeSAT!</p>
<p>(new thread)</p>
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		<title>By: HopeSpringsATurtle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333938</link>
		<dc:creator>HopeSpringsATurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chicks rule!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicks rule!</p>
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		<title>By: shoephone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333923</link>
		<dc:creator>shoephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NefLes - You are one amazing chick. Need I say more?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NefLes &#8211; You are one amazing chick. Need I say more?</p>
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		<title>By: Cozumel</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333922</link>
		<dc:creator>Cozumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-333905&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary @ 97&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410163&amp;in_page_id=1770&amp;ico=Homepage&amp;icl=TabModule&amp;icc=NEWS&amp;ct=5&quot;&gt;UK Army Chief - Goes Public WIth “We HAVE to Leave”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The head of the Army is calling for British troops to withdraw from Iraq “soon” or risk catastophic consequences for both Iraq and British society. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a devastating broadside at Tony Blair’s foreign policy, General Sir Richard Dannatt stated explicitly that the continuing presence of British troops “exacerbates the security problems” in Iraq. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;NBC Nightly News just covered it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-333905"><em>Mary @ 97</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410163&amp;in_page_id=1770&amp;ico=Homepage&amp;icl=TabModule&amp;icc=NEWS&amp;ct=5">UK Army Chief &#8211; Goes Public WIth “We HAVE to Leave”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The head of the Army is calling for British troops to withdraw from Iraq “soon” or risk catastophic consequences for both Iraq and British society. </p>
<p>In a devastating broadside at Tony Blair’s foreign policy, General Sir Richard Dannatt stated explicitly that the continuing presence of British troops “exacerbates the security problems” in Iraq. </p>
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<p>NBC Nightly News just covered it!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333920</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your daily gas and oil prices&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Average price for regular gasoline 10/12/06 in 50 states and DC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;$3.00 plus   1 state&lt;br /&gt;
$2.90 plus   0 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.80 plus   0 state&lt;br /&gt;
$2.70 plus   1 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.60 plus   2 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.50 plus   4 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.40 plus   5 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.30 plus   4 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.20 plus 13 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.10 plus 15 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.00 plus   6 states&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Average national price: $2.251, down $.004 from yesterday&lt;br /&gt;
Down 60.3 cents from same time last year.&lt;br /&gt;
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Highest average price: Hawaii $3.026&lt;br /&gt;
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.041&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp&quot;&gt;http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nymex Crude Future $57.86, up $.36&lt;br /&gt;
Dated Brent Spot $58.12, up $.13&lt;br /&gt;
WTI Cushing Spot $57.86, up $.27&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not much to say.  Gas continues to fall at a slower rate.  Oil dithers near its low and cold weather is coming.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your daily gas and oil prices</p>
<p>Average price for regular gasoline 10/12/06 in 50 states and DC</p>
<p>$3.00 plus   1 state<br />
$2.90 plus   0 states<br />
$2.80 plus   0 state<br />
$2.70 plus   1 states<br />
$2.60 plus   2 states<br />
$2.50 plus   4 states<br />
$2.40 plus   5 states<br />
$2.30 plus   4 states<br />
$2.20 plus 13 states<br />
$2.10 plus 15 states<br />
$2.00 plus   6 states</p>
<p>Average national price: $2.251, down $.004 from yesterday<br />
Down 60.3 cents from same time last year.<br />
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005</p>
<p>Highest average price: Hawaii $3.026<br />
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.041</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp">http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp</a> </p>
<p>Nymex Crude Future $57.86, up $.36<br />
Dated Brent Spot $58.12, up $.13<br />
WTI Cushing Spot $57.86, up $.27</p>
<p>Not much to say.  Gas continues to fall at a slower rate.  Oil dithers near its low and cold weather is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333916</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-333905&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary @ 97&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410163&amp;in_page_id=1770&amp;ico=Homepage&amp;icl=TabModule&amp;icc=NEWS&amp;ct=5&quot;&gt;UK Army Chief - Goes Public WIth “We HAVE to Leave”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The head of the Army is calling for British troops to withdraw from Iraq “soon” or risk catastophic consequences for both Iraq and British society. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a devastating broadside at Tony Blair’s foreign policy, General Sir Richard Dannatt stated explicitly that the continuing presence of British troops “exacerbates the security problems” in Iraq. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quite a piece, Mary. The religious content in the article has a subtext to it that needs parsing, but by someone closer to the religious scene in Britain and Europe. I can’t tell if Sir Richard is a theocon blasting at Blair, or a more moderate Christian lamenting his faith’s decline in the public sphere. His take on Muslim hospitality (and the difference between an invitation and kicking down a door) seems spot on (and makes the kind of distinctions a moderate Christian would make), but I don’t know how to read his comments about “Islamist” threats and challenges. Using “Islamist” in the US press would carry a lot of culturally-specific baggage, as it also does in the UK, but I don’t know enough to spell out what the cultural differences would be between the US and the UK in using it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, the purely political aspect of the criticism is more than enough to knock Blair around on his way out the door.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any chance of an active duty US general officer in any branch of the service dressing down Don Rumsfeld and then talking about it publicly? (Put that on YouTube, and I’d sit for an hour waiting for my poor dialup to download!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-333905"><em>Mary @ 97</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410163&amp;in_page_id=1770&amp;ico=Homepage&amp;icl=TabModule&amp;icc=NEWS&amp;ct=5">UK Army Chief &#8211; Goes Public WIth “We HAVE to Leave”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The head of the Army is calling for British troops to withdraw from Iraq “soon” or risk catastophic consequences for both Iraq and British society. </p>
<p>In a devastating broadside at Tony Blair’s foreign policy, General Sir Richard Dannatt stated explicitly that the continuing presence of British troops “exacerbates the security problems” in Iraq. </p>
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<p>Quite a piece, Mary. The religious content in the article has a subtext to it that needs parsing, but by someone closer to the religious scene in Britain and Europe. I can’t tell if Sir Richard is a theocon blasting at Blair, or a more moderate Christian lamenting his faith’s decline in the public sphere. His take on Muslim hospitality (and the difference between an invitation and kicking down a door) seems spot on (and makes the kind of distinctions a moderate Christian would make), but I don’t know how to read his comments about “Islamist” threats and challenges. Using “Islamist” in the US press would carry a lot of culturally-specific baggage, as it also does in the UK, but I don’t know enough to spell out what the cultural differences would be between the US and the UK in using it. </p>
<p>Still, the purely political aspect of the criticism is more than enough to knock Blair around on his way out the door.</p>
<p>Any chance of an active duty US general officer in any branch of the service dressing down Don Rumsfeld and then talking about it publicly? (Put that on YouTube, and I’d sit for an hour waiting for my poor dialup to download!)</p>
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		<title>By: Hayduke</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/12/blue-army-no-turning-back/#comment-333915</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice Clip choice. Just watched Return of the King again last night. Best movie series ever made. That will ever be made probably. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DEATH!!!!!! Charge!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Clip choice. Just watched Return of the King again last night. Best movie series ever made. That will ever be made probably. </p>
<p>DEATH!!!!!! Charge!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-333908&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;MarcLord @ 100&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-333904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @&lt;br /&gt;
                96              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;GW Clusterfuck has now butchered 2994 troops in Iraq. (total coalition casualties).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d count anyone missing a limb, having their jaw blown off, or missing chunks of their brain as butchered as well. Walter Reed Hospital filled up with vegetable cases long ago, and the miracle of modern medicine can be heartbreaking. There are about four times as many soldiers as 3,000 dead who wish they had died.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yup and the same goes for the Iraqis and Afghans and Lebanese and Palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how will we ever make this right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-333908"><em>MarcLord @ 100</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-333904"><em>rwcole @<br />
                96              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>GW Clusterfuck has now butchered 2994 troops in Iraq. (total coalition casualties).</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I’d count anyone missing a limb, having their jaw blown off, or missing chunks of their brain as butchered as well. Walter Reed Hospital filled up with vegetable cases long ago, and the miracle of modern medicine can be heartbreaking. There are about four times as many soldiers as 3,000 dead who wish they had died.</p>
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<p>yup and the same goes for the Iraqis and Afghans and Lebanese and Palestinians.</p>
<p>how will we ever make this right?</p>
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		<title>By: MarcLord</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcLord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-333904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @&lt;br /&gt;
                96              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;GW Clusterfuck has now butchered 2994 troops in Iraq. (total coalition casualties).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d count anyone missing a limb, having their jaw blown off, or missing chunks of their brain as butchered as well. Walter Reed Hospital filled up with vegetable cases long ago, and the miracle of modern medicine can be heartbreaking. There are about four times as many soldiers as 3,000 dead who wish they had died.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-333904"><em>rwcole @<br />
                96              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>GW Clusterfuck has now butchered 2994 troops in Iraq. (total coalition casualties).</p>
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<p>I’d count anyone missing a limb, having their jaw blown off, or missing chunks of their brain as butchered as well. Walter Reed Hospital filled up with vegetable cases long ago, and the miracle of modern medicine can be heartbreaking. There are about four times as many soldiers as 3,000 dead who wish they had died.</p>
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