(Hey, everybody. Jane's a little busy, so I am stopping in for a little afternoon fun!)
I can't stop giggling about this video from The Young Turks. In it, Cenk Uygur courageously attempts to wrest the truth from Dan Gerstein's locked jaws about Joe Lieberman's characterization of the Foley scandal as a "partisan frenzy".
Gerstein says: Well, that's just another Lamont campaign fabrication. He was very clear about what he said.
Oh yeah, Danny?
Cenk Uygur: I want to come back to that point in one second, Dan, but let me run the second clip that we have there for you and have you react to this. This is Joe Lieberman from a couple of days ago.
Joe Lieberman: (on tape)…It's spinning out of control. It's become, uh…another partisan frenzy in Washington…
C.U.:That is referring to the Foley scandal. It seems like he's saying that the Foley scandal has turned into a partisan frenzy, doesn't it?
DANGERSTEIN: Yeah, and, and…I'm happy to acknowlege that point, but what he didn't say, um, uh…was that Speaker Foley's role, ah, Speaker Hastert's role was, but that calling for his resignation is overly partisan…
You know, the next time I stick my foot grandly into my mouth, as everyone in the room recoils around me, I will assure them, "Well, it's what I didn't say that counts! I said Denise was getting fat, but I didn't say she was ugly, too!"
Oh, Dan. You're such a tard. Not only did you get caught in a lie, you just shot your own argument in the foot before you even got your pistol out of the holster. Holy Joe is saying that anyone who wants to see Speaker Hastert held accountable in his role in this Capitol Hill child sex ring is engaging in a "partisan frenzy", but THEN Dan goes on to maintain that no one in the Democratic Party has officially called for Hastert's resignation and neither has Joe. Joe has joined everyone else in Congress in officially calling for the investigation to be pushed off on the (glacially slow, entirely neutered) ethics committee.
Gerstein: I don't know of anyone in the Democratic Leadership who's called for Hastert's resignation. Essentially (Lieberman) has taken the same position as Nancy Pelosi!
So, uh, then where's this partisan frenzy? Dan, DAN!! Listen! If you're going to make strawmen, you can't rip out their stuffing in the same breath! It's not just bad form, it's worse than not saying anything at all!
I've said it before and I feel fairly confident that I will say it again. Sending out DANGERSTEIN to handle your campaign's perception management is like trying to change a diaper with a Molotov cocktail. It doesn't do anything about the shit, and now everything's on fire!
I wish we had Gerstein on camera during this interview. It would be funny to watch his eyes bugging out as he realizes that he's hoisting himself on his own petard.
When the movie of this gets made, I want Chris Kattan to play Gerstein. As "Mango".
"Would you tell a rainbow not to shine? A bird not to fly? Then you cannot tell Dan Gerstein not to spin and lie!"
Sigh.
What are we going to do for fun after November when Gerstein's out of a job?
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Fitz, fitz, fitz..
One of the most disheartening things about being politically engaged as a progressive in recent years is the utter lack of integrity on the other side. It would be so gratifying to have spirited discussions/arguments with those who don’t share our political outlook, but you have to be starting from a place of basic honesty and integrity to have a meaningful back-and-forth. When there is an inability to come to grips with the facts, there isn’t any sense in engaging these people. Worse, we’re talking about a Democrat in this case (Gerstein.)
At last, Fitz?
“partisan frenzy” Well….there he goes again.
The amount of BS being thrown about by Gerstein is remarkable. The unfortunate thing about taking up the argument about whether or not Lieberman said what he did in fact say, is that it serves to extend the partisanship meme he’s been spinning since the primary. He’s effectively created that frame and every mention of partisanship or partisan frenzy serves to bolsters his campaign.
elrod @ 1
I don’t really believe that Gerstein is a Democrat. He’s a charter member of Ct for Lieberman…and it’s become quite clear that he’s a hyperpartisan CFL-er at that.
Has this been posted yet? it’s going around the Jewish neighborhoods.
Yiddish with George and Laura
Joe Lieberman — last in war — last in peace — last in the hearts of his countrymen — last on the ballot !
What Lieberman finds doesn’t work to his advantage is “partisan” and objectionable. What Joe likes is ‘objective’.
“Staring into the abyss of minority status in Congress, Republicans signaled dedication to pork barrel spending before recessing for midterm election campaigning.” Robert Novak today. FYI, Joe.
Oh god- LiebermanCo. are at it again- debut of “The Full Lamonty”
http://www.joe2006.com/newsroom_details.asp?id=916
Rebuttal from Lamont Campaign:
http://nedlamont.com/blog/1764…..eberman-ad
*ilson!!!!!! WE NEED YOU!!!!! Master of Domains…
Off topic, but a South Carolina mom has been charged with killing her twin boys. When a similar thing happened in 1994, Gingrich used it to get votes, saying it “vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we have to change.”
It would be great if there were a newsworthy Democrat who would use this tragedy and remind voters which party controls today’s sick society.
The Dems need to TAKE CONTROL of the dialogue. Like – I am a PROUD LIBERAL – What does that mean? Way PAST TIME for current Dems/Lib to say it LOUD/OFTEN like JFK!
If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people – their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties – someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad; if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.”
- John F. Kennedy
“GOP-Linked Non-Profits Sold Clout to Abramoff” 10-12-06
GOP non-profit? This animal does not exist.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartot….._abramoff/
EPU’ed so excuses if it’s boring
Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 10/12/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 0 states
$2.80 plus 0 state
$2.70 plus 1 states
$2.60 plus 2 states
$2.50 plus 4 states
$2.40 plus 5 states
$2.30 plus 4 states
$2.20 plus 13 states
$2.10 plus 15 states
$2.00 plus 6 states
Average national price: $2.251, down $.004 from yesterday
Down 60.3 cents from same time last year.
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.026
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.041
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.as p
Nymex Crude Future $57.86, up $.36
Dated Brent Spot $58.12, up $.13
WTI Cushing Spot $57.86, up $.27
Not much to say. Gas continues to fall at a slower rate. Oil dithers near its low and cold weather is coming.
*ilson46201 @ 8
And hopefully last in a two man race with Lamont.
Badwater @ 11
No, you don’t understand. I’m on the AFA’s email list and this is what they told me would happen if the “liberals” win!
“How important are the upcoming elections? Extremely important! Below is a list of what we can expect if the liberals win. These elections are crucial. It is vitally important that you vote. Please vote and encourage others to do the same. As bad as things are, they will be infinitely worse if the liberals win.
The strategy of the liberals is to get Values Voters so disgusted and discouraged that they will not vote. If that happens, the liberals will have achieved their goal and they will be running our country.
Here is what we can expect if the liberals win:
Amnesty for 12,000,000 illegal immigrants.
A push to make homosexual marriage and polygamy legal in all 50 states.
Only liberal judges will be appointed. They will create laws to implement the social agenda liberals cannot get passed through the legislative process.
Liberals will make the killing of the unborn more difficult to stop.
Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency.
A return to the “Fairness Doctrine” in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. The purpose of this rule will be to shut down conservative talk shows.
An increase in taxes to push new social programs.
Passing a new “hate crimes” law making it illegal to refer to homosexuality in a negative manner.
Liberals will give terrorists from other countries who try to kill Americans the same rights American citizens enjoy under our constitution.
We will withdraw from Iraq, sending the message to the terrorists that if they will just be patient they can win and bring their terrorist acts to the U.S.”
I’m scared, Daddy.
don’t know if you guys saw this but pretty darn good
http://www.slate.com/id/2151440/
it translates the opology
Valley Girl @ 10
Done! For your pleasure: http://www.TheFullLamonty.com and http://www.TheFullLamontyBlog.com are mine! And forwarded!
Gerald Ford checks into the hospital at 94 years old or so. Another gooper ex-president passing to his reward would totally upset the election apple cart.
give them a few minutes for DNS to “take”
If we had it on video, we’d be doubled over watching Gerstein trying to find his petard….
Lou Dobbs did a piece on Pentagon cronies in the Emerald City.
Larry King Live will be covering
FoleyGateHastertGate tonightDrip
Drip
rwcole @ 19
doubtful — Jerry was sorta OK but not beloved.
TRex,
The best — I loved it when a picture of Mango popped up after the jump — made me cackle. Thanks for the hoot!
*ilson!!!! that’s great. Now if you could just do some h***ing magic…. Fwded to? Can’t remember who was going to amalgamate…
PeteCO @ 16
Well, I suppose the good news is that the AFA isn’t accusing liberals of promoting incest and sex with animals, or is that in their next posting?
oh, fine, I see how it is. start a new thread and leave as suckers back in the old one with nary a heads up…
I just forwarded those 2 new URLs to Ned’s official website
YAY! An afternoon post by Trex.
I don’t get to play at Late Nite very often, but it’s ALWAYS a HOOT!
(BTW ‘T’, Been fishing lately? Caught any Trouser Trout?)
LMAO!
Apologies for interuption but this looks like BIG news from the UK.
12 October 2006
Blair’s British Army Boss Bombshell: He Want’s His Troops Out Of Iraq …
Wilson- true- but there would be at least a week of wall to wall coverage of the life/death/funeral–and Clusterfuck would be showcased daily in sympathetic circumstances.
It’s not a matter of Ford being beloved- it’s simply a matter of the typical protocal for an ex president’s death. It would change the entire atmosphere.
hoisting himself on his own petard.
just a reminder that petard in French means firecracker and doobie.
*ilson- not familiar with this stuff- at present, it says the pages are “parked”. How does this work? Does someone there make the decision to link? Or? Just wondering bec. I now have a very good contact at Lamont HQ- remembered me from my time in CT. Helpful, maybe?
Sophia Teresa @ 30
Also here, so it’s for real;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6046332.stm
That picture of Dangerstein is creepy.
Here ya go…Joe.
“Iraq, and screw-ups with N Korea and Iran, are hurting the GOP more than Foley; discussing which areas Republicans are weak on should not be construed as a consensus that the GOP is no longer in trouble over Foley and everything else. In fact, one could argue that the Foley fallout has yet to fully be characterized, whereas we are extremely clear on what damage Iraq is doing to the party in power. OTOH, it should also put into perspective the fear of an October Surprise. The likelihood of something like that entirely changing the election at this late date is pretty slim. It can happen, but it’d have to be something pretty radical to make a difference now.” The Next Hurrah 10-12-06
Iraq has become bi-partisan. Most Americans do NOT support the Bush-Lieberman war in Iraq. Where does that leave you Mr. Lieberman. I know where it’s going to leave us. With Senator Lamont.
I am master of my domains – I decide where those names will “connect to” ! The set-up and redirection are not instantaneous – give it an hour or so for the high-speed electronic computers to work their 21st century magic!
*ilson- thanks for info. I will check back. Now, about the h word??? ;)
punaise @ 27
What was it you said yesterday about a need to know thread?
Lol.
VG – I dont do that stuff – the only time Ive tried was here to take down the inopportune blackface pic. FDL is locked down well !
Bustednuckles @ 39
it’s a developing pattern. should I be concerned? :~)
UK army chief calls for Iraq withdrawal
Press Association
Thursday October 12, 2006
Guardian Unlimited
Bustednuckles @ 39
Exactly. All the cool people knew this thread was here.
punaise- *way back when*, *ilson took it upon himself to alert readers every time a new thread was up. Some kind of RSS feed for info. *ilson has gone on to bigger and better things in FDL heaven, and no one has stepped up to the plate, or into his shoes…
NO, no, no, no, no. Not again.
Badwater @ 11
I must strongly disagree. How about if nobody “USES” this tragedy, we try to get some mental health treatment for a clearly sick person, and show some love and sympathy? You know, like human beings instead of all things political?
Btw way if you have never had twins, you cannot speak about the unbelievable stress. She is already going to spend the rest of her tortured life trying to wrap her mind around the fact that she killed her children. And you’re going to make her a public example for political gain? Have a heart.
/end yet another rant on mental illness, and heartless lack of treatment in a “civilized” society.
punaise @ 42
I’da gave you a heads up but I was busy acually doing some work.
I just got ‘ERE myself!
*ilson46201 @ 40
Ah… you don’t do that stuff anymore, now that you are older and wiser….
Mad Max… (edited)
MAX CLELAND, FORMER U.S. SENATOR: Well, first of all, I would like to remind the American people and the president that he cut and ran from Vietnam. So did his vice president.
I mean, they cut and ran from Osama bin Laden. They are cut-and- running from Americans veterans. They spend $8 billion a month in Iraq and underfund the V.A. by $6 billion a year, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
So, this cut-and-run stuff is just bumper-sticker stuff. It is not a plan to win. It is certainly not an exit strategy. So, we have 140,000 troops on the ground getting blown up and shot in a civil war. It’s time to redeploy them, bring our Guard and Reserve home, to guard our own borders, and go after Osama bin Laden, and al Qaeda. It’s still, al Qaeda, stupid. And that is what the president doesn’t get.
Get out. Redeploy. Take care of our own troops.
I mean, I think that’s what we’re talking about here. We have — we do not have a plan to win. Well, that’s not — stay the course is no strategy. It is no strategy to win. It is no strategy to exit. We’re just getting kids blown up. We have lost 2,700 kids over there. We have got 20,000 wounded, 10,000 wound — wounded for life, maimed for life. And it’s time to end this thing.
Now, the Iraqis are going to settle their differences, one way or the other. They have been at this for 5,000 years. Let them have it. And it is not our 51st state. We have got to take care of our country. We have got to bring the Guard and Reserve home to take care of our country. We got to focus our active forces , covertly and overtly, on killing or capturing Osama bin Laden and his terrorist cadre.
If people don’t understand that there is a civil war going on there, and more than 100 Iraqis dying every day, and that three out of five Iraqis want to kill Americans, then, I can’t make them — make this point any clear –any more clearly.
If a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his rear end.
I mean, this has been a disaster for the country, not just for the Republicans. We had four years in this war. We have lost a lot of fine young Americans there. It’s time to redeploy the forces, our forces, and bring them — bring the Guard and Reserve home, and refocus on the real enemy.
It is al Qaeda, stupid. And this crash in New York should just remind us that it’s been five years since 9/11. And, if we don’t get it now that it’s al Qaeda, stupid.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..om.01.html
Coz, Cleland was on fire and brilliant! Watched it with goosebumps.
Things certainly will be duller whe you don’t have Dangerstein to kick around any more, TRex. Airports. Cancelled flights. Burritos. Don’t ask.
OK…It’s time to slap Joe stupid.
;>)
angie @ 49
I think CNN is going to show it again in a minute ; )
Hugh @ 26
They were going to roll out a campaign suggesting that Dems were soft on pedophiles, by not wanting internet restrictions, but guess what that didn’t work out too well for them.
Breaking news.
Jim Baker and Lee Hamilton of the Iraq Study Group were just on the NewsHour. They agreed that Iraq was hot, especially if you’re older and have to wear 35 lbs. of armor. Outside of that they opined that they had reached no conclusions.
Well, there you have it. I know it’s a lot to take in but I think it was worth sharing. Yeah, I have no idea why they were on either.
Wow. Check out what Raw has re: Baker/GHWB and their studies.
http://rawstory.com/showarticl…..icle/41371
This is huge.
Former Sec of State James Baker (R) and Lee Hamilton (D) on “Newshour with Jim Lehrer” now talking about their Iraq Study Group effort.
When Baker was asked why delay reporting their results and recommendations until after the November elections, (my paraphrase): “Jimbo don’t want their recommendations to be political”.
My translation: “Jimbo don’t want his best boys Junya, Darth and Dummy, and their complicit Repug colleagues to be held to account for this tragedy come November”.
“Let me run out the November clock on this one just like I did in Florida 2001, so we Repugs won’t catch one in the neck!”
Nice Rovian try, but no cigar!
Cleaning up after Junya, a lifetime
burdenappointment Jimbo!I feel really guilty for laughing at this, but I can’t help it. It makes me feel like a teenager out with the bad elements of a football team at night, pulling pranks.
What Cenk Ugyur did was the political equivalent of putting dog poo in a paper bag, setting it on someone’s porch, lighting it on fire, and ringing the doorbell. He knew Gerstein just couldn’t help stomping on the bag to put the fire out. I’m a (supposedly) mature adult, and I still find this old gag hilarious.
Let’s go to the principal’s house and do it again!
Hugh, Mad, check out the link I posted in between your Lehrer posts. Looks like what they wanted known and what is now known differ.
America. Can’t. Win.
The government’s interest in collecting info on Google searches was justified by saying they were looking for child predators. iirc Google refused.
There were the beginnings of a campaign to associate Democrats with internet child predators. Guess that one’s not so much happening now.
A little trouble posting/editing?
Balrog @ 56
you’ve got your wanted knowns and your wanted unknowns and your unwanted unknowns.
you go to press with the rhetoric that you’ve got, not the one you wish you had.
marclord — now that’s funny
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl…..full_.html
~~~The allegations come from a Marine Corps sergeant, 23-year-old Heather Cerveny, who spent a week at the base in late September as a legal aide to a military lawyer representing detainees.
In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon Inspector General, Sgt. Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at a club on the base where, over drinks, they described harsh physical abuse.~~~
MarcLord @ 56
I think I have a crush on big Cenk now.
Badwater @ 11
I’d prefer to remind voters that the willingness to “use” a tragedy like this as a political hockey puck is itself a symptom of a sick society.
rwcole @ 19
From the “Futurama” episode “A Head in the Polls:”
Fry [to Bill Clinton’s head]: Hey, I remember you. I was gonna vote for you one time. But voting isn’t cool. So I stayed home alone and got trashed on Listerine.
Gerald Ford’s Head: Frankly, I’ve never felt voting to be all that essential to the process.
Richard Nixon’s Head: No kidding, Ford.
It’s probably boring, and it’s been said a bazillion times before. But the major problem with this country’s political system is that elections aren’t won on the merits, elections are bought. Something has to be done.
egregious @ 45
Amen, brother.
James Baker is a Texas wheeler dealer gazillionaire. I a life long pal of the Bush’s. He was also one of the major players in the election rigging in the Florida presidential vote which ultimately GAVE the election to our present prez.
Mad Dogs @ 56
Typo correction: 2000, not 2001!
Sheesh, wish that Edit thingie worked for me. Must’ve watched that Space Odyssey thingie too many times in my youth.
LMAO
A “Partisan Frenzy”? Does Lieberman know about page boys that Democrats are fucking? If so why is he holding out on us.
meanwhile re Foley, Dan Savage nails it.
KO tonite– omg!
All this business on Olbermann about this new book by Kuo about how the Bush’s laughed at the right wing Christians while accepting their money and political support is not surprising. Recall Ralph Reed. I’d like to feel sorry for these Christian dupes. But I just cannot do it.
angie @ 72
Indeed. This is, I hope, explosive stuff.
Word has it that Kuo will be on 60 Minutes with this on Sun.
Boyo Boy!
I like Barry Lynn… very much.
Tomorrow KO will continue on this subject!
Wow, tomorrow KO is doing Part 3. This story is getting better and better every day. WH still refuses to comment.
RevDeb @ 73
Excellent!
Hey, Karl! SURPRISE!!!!
Suzanne @ 76
It’s one thing for Keith to get it out. It’s totally another thing if it is on 60 Minutes!
I sense more earthquakes building.
Teevee has been struck by the Quote from Rove:
“I don’t give a shit- just get me a fuckin faith based thing”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 73
Tis all about “marketing” or put another way in the words of our beloved W.C. Fields: “It’s morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money”.
The only thing Rove did for the Repugs was to identify another “mark” to sucker. Why ever to you think Faux News is in business?
Pretty easy to prey on these folks. All ya gotta do is flash a pic of Jeebus or mention his name, and the wallets fall out of pockets.
To Repugs, its the con that keeps on conning!
I really think that if Hastert is taken down it will clinch the election for the Dems. That is why Bush is with him today. It is very important because right now Hastert is holding it all together…
Right wing Christians, a group that went overwhelmingly for the Bush crowd is but another example of people voting foolishly against their own interests.
My Aunt, who is a 99 year old native Oklahoman, and didn’t make it past the 3rd. grade (and she’s a very religious woman) had the Christian right and the Bush ‘number’. She voted against Bush twice. She can’t stand the man. And everything he represents.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 73
As much as a lot of the Christian extremist crowd pride themselves on what the rest of us would call screaming ignorance, I don’t blame you. It’s hard to find sympathy for a willing dupe.
Does anyone know where the hair style “page boy” came from? Just wondering…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 82
She must be a real gem.
Raw Story running a picture of Arnie laughin it up with a bunch of the guys with his finger planted firmly in a woman’s spread eagled snatch. I’m not sure what it means- but there it is!
I think that most of the blowback from the Tempting Faith book will be with the fundie pastors that were suckered. Their flocks aren’t going to like it much.
GOTV much? If you have a system that relies on fundie churches for GOTV and they find out they’ve been played, hopefully they will just stay home.
Fingers crossed.
rwcole @
86
God, you know what? I don’t fucking care if he has wild orgies with pygmies every Thursday night. As long as the women are of age and he’s doing his job, who freaking cares about Arnie’s past?
Trex, me neither- but it won’t be popular with the religious right.
After watching KO, what I wouldn’t give to be a fly on the wall of Dobson’s study or Robertson’s Green Room. These folks are NOT going to be happy when Kuo’s book hits the shelves. They are not going to be happy at all, and they are going to be ringing Karl’s phone a great deal in the next few days, asking some very pointed questions.
Expect some kind of gay marriage/abortion/stem cell proclamation in the next week. They may be evangelicals and not Catholic, but Dobson & Co are going to ask for some extreme acts of penance, and Rover is looking at bad enough poll numbers to come through with it.
But as fun as it would be to listen in on those conversations . . . hey, is the NSA hiring? . . . the big, BIG, BIG question is whether this will get onto the radar of the run-of-the-mill rightwing pewsitters. If they feel taken, they may decide to sit home come November.
Let us pray . . .
TRex @
88
He DOES?
This says it all…
With less than a month to go before the elections, Vice President Dick Cheney offered up strong words of praise for Joe Lieberman, while taking shots at the “Dean Democrats” who have “purged” the Connecticut senator from the Democratic Party.
“The case of Joe Lieberman is a perfect illustration of the basic philosophical difference between the two parties in the year 2006,” Cheney said at a Topeka, Kansas fundraiser for Rep. Jim Ryan on Thursday afternoon. “And it’s a reminder that the elections on November 7th will have enormous consequences for this nation, one way or the other.”
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._1012.html
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If Cheney thinks being a Dean Democrat is a bad thing in CT, he is sadly mistaken. Hope the Lamont campaign uses this against Lieberman.
Some of these “religious leaders” have huge egos and will find it tough to turn to their flock and say “I don’t care if they laugh at me and treat me like an idiot.”
TRex Ipsa Loquitur …
TRex @ 87
Some folks don’t think Arnie’s doing his job- his job for the peeps, that is.
A tag line at kos:
“There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order.” Ed Howdershelt
Dick Cheney is in New Orleans tonight. I feel dirty.
LindyH @ 97
You should run by there just to tell him to go fuck himself.
Curious in Central Texas @ 85
She is. Her loving sister passed away yesterday in Texas. And yet, even knowing that, she and I talked politics into the wee hours last night. We reminisced about FDR and JFK mostly. And she cried. I stayed with her last night and will do likewise tonight, and as long as she wants me to.
EvilDrPuma @ 67
That would be sister. :)
rwcole @
86
rw, my vulva, vagina, and surrounds are not SNATCH. I’m a grandmother, and I didn’t really need that visual. I guess it’s time for me to go someplace else. Your “shock and awe” tactics can also be perceived as UNNECESSARY bad manners, seeing as how we all would like to get rid of this bastard, criminal ring of thugs.
TRex @ 98
Maybe airportcat can do it. we already tried to get to that area…and all traffic is at a standstill. Good night, T-Rex. Good post.
Trex – if you’re reading, I need a call asap … technical issue
oh my!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 99
Bless you both and know that I am with you in spirit and tears.
(((((((Oklahoma kiddo and aunt)))))))
egregious @ 100
What an egregious mistake!
;)
(And not the first gender error around the ‘Lake!)
LindyH- never mind him. He’s of the “old” school. ;)
Make sure your posts are of value going forward, Lakers. There’s going to be some folk looking for new jobs soon.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061030/blumenthal
Peterr no prob, and I’m not sure why it matters to me except it just does. Maybe because I spent so many years in the feminist movement before it was cool. Now I have 2 daughters who are carrying the fight forward. Sometimes there is justice, but it can take a very long time.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 99
I am in the Austin area — if there is anything I can do, please let me know.
Valley Girl @ 108
a volvo liberal?
Oklahoma kiddo @
82
I wish my elderly relatives in OK were that perceptive. I think a lot of brains got softened with the advent of the so-called Religious Right, because I’m darn sure my dad would never have voted for anyone who dared mix religion and politics.
Valley Girl @
95
I care about his past, same way I care about the rampant hypocrisy on the right. Arnie’s attitude toward women is bad bad bad. Ask anyone who’s worked with him what an arrogant (little) prick he was=is. It’s the character, stupid.
Peterr @
106
Mountains come out of the sky and they stand there.
Thanks, Jane! If you’re flying you must be causing more trouble than usual.
punaise @ 111
p.s. I didn’t mean Arnie.
egregious @ 109
Having made similar mistakes myself around here, I know the forgiving nature of the folks at the Lake. If someone posts with a nom de plume (as opposed to a Gnome de Plume!) that is gender neutral, there are bound to be “oopsies” now and then.
And why it matters . . . because you are a sister, not a brother. There’s no shame in either, but it makes sense to get it right.
In Lutheran circles in Minnesota, they’d get mighty upset if you mistook a Norwegian for a Swede. (Of course, they’d try to hide it, so as not to make a scene.)
Mountains come out of the sky and they stand there.
one mile over we’ll be there and we’ll see you.
Balrog @ 115
One mile over we’ll be there and we’ll see you
Ten true summers we’ll be there and laughing too
I will remember you
Your ziggurat will charge the view
Valley Girl @ 117
entendu
Mommybrain- “I care about his past, same way I care about the rampant hypocrisy on the right. Arnie’s attitude toward women is bad bad bad. Ask anyone who’s worked with him what an arrogant (little) prick he was=is. It’s the character, stupid.”
Yeah, I just didn’t have time to get into all of that- about his ass-grabbing etc. etc. I’m surprised that TRex didn’t seem to be aware of Arnie’s “particulars”. And, you seem to know about even more “particulars” than I do.
(sigh)…if only those Christians were more like Jesus. Or at least were cognizant.
punaise @ 120
Nah, Playstation rules
THANK YOU KEITH OLBERMANN !!!!!!
http://thank-you-keith-olbermann.blogspot.com/
Scarborouh continues with the Tempting Faith book.
The White House responds and calls the book “ridiculous”
Duh, another LIE. So what else is new?
Curious in Central Texas…
Thank you.
angie….
You’re nice.
egregious ;>)))))
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ally-want/
New thread- from Siun!
Margot @ 112
Not all in my family are perceptive either. Boo-hoo. :-(
Oklahoma kiddo @
127
so are you, and I hope to meet you and give you a hug in person one day…
Your conscience is very important and real to me.
Peterr @ 90
Peterr — I’ve always thought that most of the fundie leaders were at least as cyncial and manipulative as Bush/Rove. They were snake oil salemen dealing their own kind, and I doubt anyone had any illusions either way. They found each other useful and they both used their constituents to aggregate power, influence and money.
Ned Lamont is the bravest, gentlest, warmest, most wonderful human being I have ever met in my life!
How many times do I have to tell you IT’S CLINTON’S FAULT!
I listened to this interview and I was very disappointed with the way they let Dangerstien use them to spin his crap. They never called BS on his garbage and did not really challenge him. They let him get by with that “he never specifically identified any Democrat” crap when everyone knew what the LIEberman Grinch meant. Poor job, really.
Don’t spin this interview as a win, we have to work much harder to get our message out.
Mad Dogs @ 56
When it comes to Lee Hamilton, use the “D” lightly. That guy is as bad (worse?) than Joe Lieberman.