Jane — you are such an honest person! Calling them thugs out is the only way forward!

Some one turned the lights back on!
It got pretty dead in the last thread.

right on top of it jane, nice work giving me ammo

by the way, what is an “LLC”?

I hope Christy doesn’t mind, she left post reply for me to me on the last thread that fits here . So I am going to repost it here.

Christy Hardin Smith says
October 11th, 2006 at 5:20 pm*

me to me at 96 — in fact, here’s a statement from the real estate attorney who handled the transaction that wasw forwarded to me when I asked someone else about this earlier:

Mitch Ogron, Real Estate Attorney who found the land purchased by Reid and Brown

Senator Reid and Jay Brown asked me to help find real estate for investment. I found the property they ultimately purchased and arranged
the deal for them. PermaBilt, ALC, and Del Webb played absolutely no role in the deal. In fact, Senator Reid and Jay Brown never even had direct contact with the owners of the real estate throughout the transaction. The details were handled by me, the title company, and the escrow agent. This was a simple and straightforward transaction.

LLC
Definition

Limited Liability Company. A type of company, authorized only in certain states, whose owners and managers receive the limited liability and (usually) tax benefits of an S Corporation without having to conform to the S corporation restrictions.

http://www.investorwords.com/2853/LLC.html

me to me at 3 — it’s a “limited liability company.” Which is a form of business which allows for pass-through taxation — taxing as a partnership — but with liability benefits akin to an S-Corp. — which, in some states, can be advantageous. (Check with an attorney in your state — because laws vary — and nothing here should be construed as saying you should or should not look into it. Just trying to describe it.) I’ve worked on some law review articles on entity choice and LLCs in the past with a former law professor of mine, and it’s quite an interesting topic. Lots of research material out there in case anyone is interested.

THANX everybody, always good to be ready BEFORE the onslaught

Ya gotta love John Murtha —

A year ago when I presented my plan for Iraq, I did it to provide leadership and protect our troops. The Republicans have spent their time name-calling while the situation for our troops in Iraq gets worse.

They’ve tried to smear me, other veterans, Democrats, you and anybody who stands up to them. Well, let me say one thing right now: screw them. Those gravestones at Arlington cemetery don’t say Democrat or Republican on them.

We are all patriots.

LOL angie — you beat me to it. :)

From Big Tent Democrat

Even Professor Reynolds sees this dog wont hunt:

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid collected a $1.1 million windfall on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn’t personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show.

. . . UPDATE: Reader Anthony Calabrese thinks there’s probably less here than the AP story suggests:

I am a long time reader — also a tax lawyer. While my practice does not involve real estate investments, I think it may be much ado about nothing. Generally, if you transfer property to a company in return for an interest in the company, there is no federal income tax on the transfer. If the company was an LLC (as stated in the media reports), the company was probably a partnership for tax purposes. There would be no LLC level tax as profits and losses would pass through to the partners.

So I can see no real tax issue. The only issue is that Reid might have been hiding his ownership of the property, but holding investment property in an LLC is fairly common in order to protect the owners from torts or bankruptcy. I think this is simply an issue of someone forgetting to file a form.

Good for Professor Reynolds.

me to me @
3

right on top of it jane, nice work giving me ammo

by the way, what is an “LLC”?

Limited Liability Company — a corporation.

Kathryn in MA at 8 — I got to spend about 45 minutes on the phone with Rep. Murtha today, and he is just as plain spoken and genuine as you would imagine. And he cares an awful lot about our troops in the field. The attempted swift boating of him this year by Rove and his smear merchant proxies is unconscionable.

hey, wouldn’t it be a good idea to have a complete list of simiar arrangements and other politicians?

seems to me this is just another shelter, corportations and ltd’s would fall under the same magnifying glass

I didn’t wish to intrude on the last thread moribund as it was.

Your daily gas and oil prices

Average price for regular gasoline 10/11/06 in 50 states and DC

$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 0 states
$2.80 plus 1 state
$2.70 plus 0 states
$2.60 plus 3 states
$2.50 plus 3 states
$2.40 plus 5 states
$2.30 plus 4 states
$2.20 plus 13 states
$2.10 plus 16 states
$2.00 plus 5 states

Average national price: $2.255, down $.007 from yesterday
Down 61.6 cents from same time last year.
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005

Highest average price: Hawaii $3.026
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.047

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp

Nymex Crude Future $57.50, down $ .91
Dated Brent Spot $57.99, down $1.08
WTI Cushing Spot $57.59, down $ .93

Gas prices fall at a slower rate. There is an ongoing attempt to bid the oil market down, this despite the fact that a cold weather period known as winter is approaching. What is happening is not rational and indicates that some degree of manipulation is involved.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 8

LOL angie — you beat me to it. :)

That is a first, Christy! Nobody, but nobody, beats the ladies of the lake.

Or, the menfolk of the lake.

Heh,I spotlighted this one to some Reuters folk.

Hugh @ 14

I didn’t wish to intrude on the last thread moribund as it was.

Your daily gas and oil prices

Average price for regular gasoline 10/11/06 in 50 states and DC

$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 0 states
$2.80 plus 1 state
$2.70 plus 0 states
$2.60 plus 3 states
$2.50 plus 3 states
$2.40 plus 5 states
$2.30 plus 4 states
$2.20 plus 13 states
$2.10 plus 16 states
$2.00 plus 5 states

Average national price: $2.255, down $.007 from yesterday
Down 61.6 cents from same time last year.
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005

Highest average price: Hawaii $3.026
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.047

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp

Nymex Crude Future $57.50, down $ .91
Dated Brent Spot $57.99, down $1.08
WTI Cushing Spot $57.59, down $ .93

Gas prices fall at a slower rate. There is an ongoing attempt to bid the oil market down, this despite the fact that a cold weather period known as winter is approaching. What is happening is not rational and indicates that some degree of manipulation is involved.

hugh, In keep asking this and haven’t seen an answer;

is there a breakdown of gas price delta in red vs blue vs purple states?

KO now doing a special with a guy who wrote Tempting Faith which will blow the lid off of W and his kissing up to the fundies.

This is gonna be good and BIG

“Bush playing Christians for suckers.”

Can we rally in a very public way behind our heroes; Gore, Murtha, …. by that i mean; can we mutually arrange with them that if they give a public speech, we will be there massively in person? Encourage more public outspokenness? (or am i being too incoherent?)

KO blasting bushco for dissing evangelicals.

(I love this man so very much.)

Kathryn in MA @ 8

Ya gotta love John Murtha —

A year ago when I presented my plan for Iraq, I did it to provide leadership and protect our troops. The Republicans have spent their time name-calling while the situation for our troops in Iraq gets worse.

They’ve tried to smear me, other veterans, Democrats, you and anybody who stands up to them. Well, let me say one thing right now: screw them. Those gravestones at Arlington cemetery don’t say Democrat or Republican on them.

We are all patriots.

I do! I Do!

me to me at 13 — not a shelter — its a more-than-legitimate choice of business entity. And one that any business attorney worth his or her salt would discuss with a client, if the nature of the business deal or property ownership interest warranted the discussion. You want to give your clients every advantage — on taxes and on liability limitations for exposure to lawsuits and other problems. And it is a very common set-up for property ownership in a lot of contexts. As I said above, it’s not always the best choice — it should be made on individual facts and state law considerations — but it wouldn’t be unusual in the least for something like this to be done for a land ownership deal.

angie @ 15

Christy Hardin Smith @ 8

LOL angie — you beat me to it. :)

That is a first, Christy! Nobody, but nobody, beats the ladies of the lake.

Or, the menfolk of the lake.

I beat myself?

then I fall asleep…go figure

sniff, sniff……… yep.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

me to me at 13 — not a shelter — its a more-than-legitimate choice of business entity. And one that any business attorney worth his or her salt would discuss with a client, if the nature of the business deal or property ownership interest warranted the discussion. You want to give your clients every advantage — on taxes and on liability limitations for exposure to lawsuits and other problems. And it is a very common set-up for property ownership in a lot of contexts. As I said above, it’s not always the best choice — it should be made on individual facts and state law considerations — but it wouldn’t be unusual in the least for something like this to be done for a land ownership deal.

christy, I am under the impresion a “shelter” is NOT unethical or illegal, it’s just a term

unless of course it’s an “illegal shelter”

if the term “shelter” meant anything underhanded then ‘illegal shelter” would be redundant

am I wrong?

anyway, wwe should have a list of republicans with similar arrangements

am I wrong about that?

On another economic topic . . .

The October 6, 2006 monthly Congressional Budget Office (CBO) update places the deficit for FYI 2006 at $250 billion. The government’s fiscal year begins October 1 of each year. The White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) had early in the year pegged the deficit at $420 billion. This was almost from the start considered a deliberate overestimate which would allow the Administration later in the year to claim a major victory in the fight to reduce budget deficits.

So what caused the reduction in the size of the deficit?

Steady growth in corporate profits probably explains most of that increase, although some of it likely stems from settlements of past years’ taxes and a recent change in tax law that required large firms to accelerate some payments from 2007 into 2006.

snip

That surge boosted corporate [tax] receipts to about 2.7 percent of GDP, the highest point since 1978—the result of very robust corporate profits, which, as a share of GDP, have reached a level not seen in decades.

http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm…..sequence=0

While middle class wages continue to stagnate, corporate profits are the best they have been in a long time. This explains why a few view the economy as doing very well while most ordinary Americans do not.

In addition, there is the issue of the $181 billion which the government has borrowed from the Social Security surplus, which it will spend as general revenue, but which it does not count in its deficit figure (also known as the off-budget deficit). If this debt is included in the deficit (known as the on-budget deficit), the budget deficit for FYI 2006 is $431 billion.

me to me @ 23

angie @ 15

Christy Hardin Smith @ 8

LOL angie — you beat me to it. :)

That is a first, Christy! Nobody, but nobody, beats the ladies of the lake.

Or, the menfolk of the lake.

I beat myself?

then I fall asleep…go figure

I only meant that nobody that I know of is more perceptive than FDL’s hosts and commenters.

hi angie

ya, I understood, that was my lame attempt at humor

Have a pleasant evening ladies.
I’m off to take care of my new kitty kat.

me to me # 17,

Red states usually have cheaper gas prices then blue states. This is largely a matter of geography, most blue states being in the Northeast or on the West coast. The Mississippi basin because of a combination of location of refineries, cheap transportation, and lower taxes tends to have lower prices.

for Solomon:

Flew in from Las Vegas, b**ch, my LLC
Didn’t get to bed last night
On the way your paper, nag, was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
I’m back in the GOP (R)
You don’t know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the GOP (R), yeah

your paper, nag => your right wing rag

punaise @ 32

for Solomon:

Flew in from Las Vegas, b**ch, my LLC
Didn’t get to bed last night
On the way your paper, nag, was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
I’m back in the GOP (R)
You don’t know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the GOP (R), yeah

oh, beautiful, punaise! love me some Beatles…

i thought so, me to me, but wanted to be somewhat more clear and precise (in view of dubya’s pissy presser full of contortions today). hi back at you!

and bustednuckles– give your kitty a good scratch under the chin from me and just enjoy the sweetness!

Hugh @ 31

me to me # 17,

Red states usually have cheaper gas prices then blue states. This is largely a matter of geography, most blue states being in the Northeast or on the West coast. The Mississippi basin because of a combination of location of refineries, cheap transportation, and lower taxes tends to have lower prices.

me to me,

Here’s a map of the prices broken down by county:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

Try that.

kemo @ 33

your paper, nag => your right wing rag

that’s better

To go with the gas buddy map, Wikipedia has maps for red, blue and purple at various times here

AmericaBlog weighs in on Harry’s side…

The Solomon AP story is amazing for its intentional deception. A failure to file a form listing a cosmetic transfer is translated into:

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid collected a $1.1 million windfall on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn’t personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show.

Not only do hacks like Solomon feel no regret over Whitewater, they feel nostalgia for it.

me to me — LLC’s and other forms of incorporation are not “shelters” as much as they are a method by which a business becomes a separate entity from the persons that own or operate it.

A C-Corp, for example, has a life of its own; it can outlive the original shareholders.

An LLC is different from a C-Corp in that it does not tax the owners twice, first as corporate owners and a second time as employees.

What all forms of incorporation offer is risk mitigation; losses experienced by the business are limited to the assets of the corporation and do not extend beyond the corporation.

In other words, if someone slipped and fell on property owned by an LLC due to negligence by the LLC’s management, the victim might be able to sue the LLC, but not for an amount beyond the value of the firm (or insurance coverage purchased by the firm).

It is simply good business practice; I’ve seen businesses operated as sole proprietorships that bankrupted not only the owner, but the heirs and assigns. In one case, the owner became incompetent because cancer had spread to his brain; his wife was unable to get him declared incompetent before he died, nor could she get guardianship or power of attorney before his death. The business was in arrears to the feds and state to the tune of 400K, but the business was only worth 100K. She ended up losing the house and contents they co-owned — a 52-year-old widow with no work experience and a teenager at home.

Could have been prevented if the business and its property had been an LLC.

Now ask yourself if Harry Reid was being responsible or irresponsible by moving the property to an LLC.

Bustednuckles @
16

Heh,I spotlighted this one to some Reuters folk.

Interesting. I sent it to all the AP Congressional reporters.

Christy @ 12,
I called Rep. Murtha’s office some months ago and told them I wished I could adopt him as my representative. I know that sounds silly, but I was just trying to let him know how much I appreciate someone standing up for our people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We just can’t let this administration ruin our military.

I am very much not a Reid supporter after his pro forma opposition to the S 3930 the Republican torture and kangaroo courts bill. Even so this strikes me as thin. I was wondering if the idea to bring it up came from Hastert’s own questionable land deal where he bought land near where an interstate, or was it an airport, was to be built. Siun would probably know.

Hugh,

Back when I lived in the US I know that the price of gas would vary accross state lines because of differences in the way states taxed autos for road use. Some states built it into the gasoline taxes almost entirely, others had stiffer fees for auto licenses. Is that still true? I am wondering why, for example, MI, not a huge oil-producing state, pays similar prices to TX.

Aravosis nails it:

Like arrogant, spoiled brats the Republicans are no longer responsible for anything.

But the more the Repugs point the finger at Dems to deflect attention from 600,000 Iraqis dead; US troops committed through 2010; North Korea’s

Nuke Kid on the Block

(to quote Stewart); and Foley’s sexplicit IMs, the more apparent it is that the party is over. They’ve come unhinged.

Wonder who they’re going to blame when they lob tactical nukes at Iran in a week or so.

This is just ridiculous. Look at all the war profiteering that is going on, even as we speak. I can’t imagine people will truly get worked up about this – but I’m not really plugged into the news right now.

F*ck computers.

And f*ck Neocons, too.

;>)

boosh’s national sek-ur-e-tee is going down, down, down on Scarborough with Roger Cressey.

I only wish this was enough to ensure safety and happiness for everyone.

HotFlash @ 43

Back when I lived in the US I know that the price of gas would vary accross state lines because of differences in the way states taxed autos for road use. Some states built it into the gasoline taxes almost entirely, others had stiffer fees for auto licenses. Is that still true? I am wondering why, for example, MI, not a huge oil-producing state, pays similar prices to TX.

Gas taxes remain highly variable so yes, that’s probably right. Moving barges up the Mississippi and Ohio is relatively inexpensive. Moving it across shorter distances by land is more expensive.

Harry Reid is the most decent, straight-up, by-the-book, moral person in the U.S. Senate.

Everyone in Washington knows it. Solomon is embarrassing himself with this crap.

OT: anybody know the name of this very strong woman: http://switch3.castup.net/cune…..k=null>

As discussed above, an LLC is a “pass-through” entity.

That means that any profits are taxed at your ordinary income tax rates on your personal return. There is no perceived “taint” associated with LLCs anywhere.
It’s one of the most common ways to organize a business.

Slothrop @ 49

OT: anybody know the name of this very strong woman: http://switch3.castup.net/cune…..k=null>

That’s Wafa Sultan

I’m sitting in an LLC-owned building right now.

Slothrop @
49

Harry Reid is the most decent, straight-up, by-the-book, moral person in the U.S. Senate.

Everyone in Washington knows it. Solomon is embarrassing himself with this crap.

OT: anybody know the name of this very strong woman: http://switch3.castup.net/cune…..k=null>

Yes, her name is Wafa Sultan (Neocon just like Zal) and if you want to see a very strong woman, look here:

http://www.democracynow.org/ar…..amp;tid=25

Slothrop @ 49

OT: anybody know the name of this very strong woman: http://switch3.castup.net/cune…..k=null>

Wow – she’s amazing. Fearless. Hope she has bodyguards.

Slothrop — That’s Wafa Sultan in the video.

Naturally she is demonized by Islamic fundamentalists for being both secular and an outspoken woman.

Can’t say that Christianists here would treat her any differently were she American-born.

HotFlash — you beat me to the draw. Tip ‘o that hat!

darkblack @
46

F*ck computers.

And f*ck Neocons, too.

;>)

Doubtful Big Time has that much hair on his legs, his heart can’t pump well enough to deliver oxygen down there…

Hugh @
14

There is an ongoing attempt to bid the oil market down, this despite the fact that a cold weather period known as winter is approaching. What is happening is not rational and indicates that some degree of manipulation is involved.

Manipulation of the oil markets? 4 weeks before an election? Where the party that stands to lose both houses of congress is headed up by a couple of old oil business execs?

I’ve never heard of anything so outlandish. You should wash your brain out with soap for even suggesting it. Now run along, the adults are in charge, nothing to see here, everything is fine!

OT – re-posting this from Salon.com:

Whose state of denial?

Bob Woodward’s critical new book left the Bush White House feeling betrayed. But his earlier “Bush at War” hagiography betrayed all Americans

By Sidney Blumenthal

[…]
On one level, the Woodward story is a transparent, easily reported tale of a Washington player who in his own idiosyncratic way represents the drift of chattering class conventional wisdom, from envious contempt for Bill Clinton (and Al Gore) to blind infatuation with Bush the hero to sudden disdain for Bush the failure.
[…]

oh poop– Hannity stroking Coulter, again.

Eeek just came home from an event where I talked to David Gregory. He is…amazing. New fan for life.

Ok the details, pink and silver dangly earrings w matching bracelet, single pink stone necklace, fuzzy pink LOW neck long sleeve sweater, black wool slacks, pink suede high heels. I will be upgrading the necklace to a pink sapphire if Santa Claus is very kind this year. Pretty good for a briar (hillbilly) girl.

Jewelry: one of our weapons. Use it.

Another time, the story of the purse that saved a baby’s life.

Jacqrat @ 57

Doubtful Big Time has that much hair on his legs, his heart can’t pump well enough to deliver oxygen down there…

Forgot the Nair, did I?

;>)

punaise,

Is, is Blumenthal saying Woodward is superficial? Gosh, another illusion shattered.

We must get Dennis Hastert and John Boehner under oath to find out what THEY knew about this land sale!

-GSD

If this Reid business is the best that Rove can come up with, I don’t think I’ll break a sweat. I’m much more worried about whether I’ll put on matching socks in the morning. It ain’t ‘happening’ Karl.

Hugh @ 63

punaise,

Is, is Blumenthal saying Woodward is superficial? Gosh, another illusion shattered.

Woodwad, a jerk? off the record, I know it takes some getting used to …

Hugh, do you have an opinion as to how much of the change in gasoline prices is the result of speculators bidding up the prices in the commodities markets?

I notice that Amaranth partners closed down over losing bets on natural gas, costing investors at least $6bn, which is a lot of bets to drive up prices.

Oh and duh, pink shoes => pink purse of course.

Remind me somebody…doesn’t John Solomon occasionally report or comment on NPR? Give me Daniel Shore any day of the week. John Solomon: Hack.

If the accusation against Reed weren’t a smokescreen and a load of horseshit in and of itself, I’d still want to know why Solomon thinks participating in even a shifty land sale would be in some way morally comparable to participating in or abetting the sexual abuse of a human being.

Chris Shays is screaming “Chappaquiddick” at the top of his lungs. Chimpy McAsshole is screaming “cut and run”…..Boo Radley McCain is screaming about North Korea….

These are desperate times for desperate men…..

-GSD

egregious @ 61

Eeek just came home from an event where I talked to David Gregory. He is…amazing. New fan for life.

Ok the details, pink and silver dangly earrings w matching bracelet, single pink stone necklace, fuzzy pink LOW neck long sleeve sweater, black wool slacks, pink suede high heels. I will be upgrading the necklace to a pink sapphire if Santa Claus is very kind this year. Pretty good for a briar (hillbilly) girl.

Jewelry: one of our weapons. Use it.

Another time, the story of the purse that saved a baby’s life.

My sweetie is 5′ 10″, barefoot. When she has an important day in court (she’s an attorney) she wears her knee high Gucci boots with 4″ heels (6′ 2″ now), walks into court, and SLAMS her briefcase on the table. Very intimidating. LOL

Rayne @ 39

me to me — LLC’s and other forms of incorporation are not “shelters” as much as they are a method by which a business becomes a separate entity from the persons that own or operate it.

Moreover, you can get any Republican to admit that under any circumstances other than the opportunity to distract attention by smearing a Democrat. “Ownership society” and “free market capitalism” and all that, right?

GSD at #71 — Boo Radley McCain….AAAAaaaaaaaaahehahehahehahehahe oh, hahahahah, oh my, aaa-hahahahahaha… (wipes tears from eyes)

GSD @ 71

Chris Shays is screaming “Chappaquiddick” at the top of his lungs. Chimpy McAsshole is screaming “cut and run”…..Boo Radley McCain is screaming about North Korea….

These are desperate times for desperate men…..

-GSD

you are the man!
omg, you have nailed it–

…Boo Radley McCain is screaming about North Korea…

Joyce Marcel reminds us “Our Daily Lives Don’t Amount to a Hill of Beans”

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1011-34.htm

egregious @ 61

Eeek just came home from an event where I talked to David Gregory. He is…amazing. New fan for life.

Ok the details, pink and silver dangly earrings w matching bracelet, single pink stone necklace, fuzzy pink LOW neck long sleeve sweater, black wool slacks, pink suede high heels.

had me going there for a minute – I was picturing David Gregory in that outfit….

egregious @ 61

Another time, the story of the purse that saved a baby’s life.

Love to hear about it. I used a Fisher-Price stethoscope to good effect once.

Brownandserve @ 78

I used a Fisher-Price stethoscope to good effect once.

Please… this is a family-oriented blog.

Rayne @ 56

HotFlash — you beat me to the draw. Tip ‘o that hat!

Rayne, back at’cha. I was lollygagging, read the Sarah Chayes article that Angie recommended at 53, and followed it to this Afghani co-op that makes the most beautiful soap — if I ever have to wash my mouth out, I want to do it with that.

Brownandserve @ 78

I insist on good effect. In fact, my practical self will soon be completely phased out in favor of a CGI model.

This one isn’t even
“Look, something shiny”
It’s more like
“Look, something dull”

Mack @ 82

This one isn’t even
“Look, something shiny”
It’s more like
“Look, something dull”

Well…yeah. Remember how much of a damn anybody really gave about Whitewater? So much that Starr switched over to sex as soon as he possibly could.

Swopa @ 79

Brownandserve @ 78

I used a Fisher-Price stethoscope to good effect once.

Please… this is a family-oriented blog.

Heh indeed. Save that for the late night thread..there may be a precocious 13 yr old or two around right now in the comments.

You all will be happy to know that Lieberman has opened his blog to comments again. CT Bob and his Joe’s 2006 Blog really must have gotten under their skin.

Glorfindel @
74

GSD at #71 — Boo Radley McCain….AAAAaaaaaaaaahehahehahehahehahe oh, hahahahah, oh my, aaa-hahahahahaha… (wipes tears from eyes)

Please repeat liberally. He is the biggest phony the Republicans have because he pretends to be some sort of moderate…..At least Bush knows he is a jabbering rightwing ass-puppet.

-GSD

dab from CT @ 85

You all will be happy to know that Lieberman has opened his blog to comments again. CT Bob and his Joe’s 2006 Blog really must have gotten under their skin.

I almost feel sorry for Lieberman, but wouldn’t that be hypocritical since I eat the flesh of animals?

Swopa @ 79

Brownandserve @ 78

I used a Fisher-Price stethoscope to good effect once.

Please… this is a family-oriented blog.

LOL, get your mind out of the gutter.

It was a Sunday and 3 or 4 year old daughter had raspy cough and we were debating whether it warranted getting the pediatrician to see her or wait until the Monday morning (her fever wasn’t exceptionally high). The only thing I could tell using the stethoscope was that one lung sounded different from the other and it reminded me sort of like the sound you made when you squeeze a sponge. So it turned out she had, in fact, a mild case of pneumonia and I was glad that I had thought to use the toy stethoscope.

Looks like a form over substance issue.

The form of the reporting may have been incorrect (owned an interest in an LLC to which he contributed real property as opposed to a direct fractional interest in the real property) but the substance of the reporting was accurate.

If that’s the facts, its pretty much like moving an asset from one pocket to another, although the the new pocket has a lining which can legally protect you from certain things.

I agree with GSD – chalk this up to throwing anything and I mean anything out to get Foley off the news.

I think it’s time to embrace some reality based republicans. They need help!

I’ve got something to say that might cause you pain
If I catch you talking to that boy again,
I’m gonna let you down. And leave you flat.
Because I told you before- oh, you can’t do that.

I just ran across a good website for summarizing the results of polls in all contested Congressional (House and Senate) elections:

http://www.electoral-vote.com

YMMV

EvilDrPuma @ 81

Brownandserve @ 78

I insist on good effect. In fact, my practical self will soon be completely phased out in favor of a CGI model.

I guess I’ll show my cluelessness and confess I have no idea what you are talking about.

masaccio #67,

I think that Goldman Sach’s dumping gasoline futures in early August had a lot to do with the timing of the fall in gasoline prices which were then at their peak.

As for oil and gasoline markets, I think they are only loosely coupled to each other. Gasoline began to fall while oil prices were still in the $75/bbl range. You might think with expensive oil in the pipeline gasoline prices might lag oil prices at least until this expensive oil had worked its way through the system but the reverse was true. OTOH sustained high oil prices do put pressure on gasoline prices.

Fueling the stereotype of the Dumb Okie:

In a recent speech in the Senate, James Inhofe of Oklahoma called himself “the senator who has spent more time educating about the actual facts about global warming.” Too bad he is not the senator who has spent more time educating himself.

Yeah, call him the bus driver–he’s all knowed up and takin’ us to school. Groan.

He accuses scientists and the media of hysteria. But if there is such a thing as a hysteria of doubt, then Mr. Inhofe is its master.

My Senators from Oklahoma positions must be dependent upon occupying a very factually limited space. Unbelievable.

With all this talk about jewelry, I wonder if I still fit in, or if I’ll be ready for the battle ahead.

I get all my jewelry at the thrift store. I have a real collection going of wooden jewelry — in the literal, not the metaphorical (i.e. “rigid”) sense. Some of it is plain wood, polished to a sheen (bracelet and earrings — looks like teak, but can’t be, it was too cheap — $2). Some of it is painted wood, with patterns that remind you of those wonderful cheap Indian bedspreads.

Then there’s the set of weathered metal jewelry — tarnished copper and the like. Interesting colors emerge from the tarnishing. Again — cheapies at thrift shops.

Sigh. I guess I still bear the marks of my late sixties/early seventies adolescence.

I hardly present with the “polished” extravagant look. But quirky is the way I’ve always enjoyed my accessories (and clothes). And thrift shops are the best place to go to load up on quirk. You won’t be stuck with the “flavor of the week.”

And GSD — Thanks for the Boo Radley McCain reference. Come to think of it, some pics of McCain from his very early military days are reminiscent of the Boo Radley look.

punaise @ 77

egregious @ 61

Eeek just came home from an event where I talked to David Gregory. He is…amazing. New fan for life.

Ok the details, pink and silver dangly earrings w matching bracelet, single pink stone necklace, fuzzy pink LOW neck long sleeve sweater, black wool slacks, pink suede high heels.

had me going there for a minute – I was picturing David Gregory in that outfit….

David Gregory was wearing…well I wasn’t looking at anything except his exceptionally beautiful eyes. And he is TALL. And striking. And friendly. And intelligent. And…never mind.

For more egregious fashion, go to the bottom of the BaraCk thread and find out what I wore to that fundraiser :) Female weapons…use them to change the world…

In case no one has linked it yet. BlueAmerica candidate: Charlie Brown is debating Abramoff whore, John Doolittle live right now available streamed online at:

Charlie Brown Debate

or here if that doesn’t work.

http://www.kcra.com/video/10056479/index.html

John Doolittle is already coming apart at the seams in the first ten minutes. Hurling ACLU at the Colonel like it’s a cuss word, raising his voice into a shrill whine… It’s actually quite sad to watch.

Sorry to go OT Jane, but this juxtaposition of a Senator who is funded by oil companies, and his blatant shilling for them, “Smog? I don’t see no stinking smog!” over a real snorer like a chunk of land in plain sight being sold in plain sight is sorta headshaking in its absurdity.

punaise @
52

I’m sitting in an LLC-owned building right now.

this afternoon, my wife and I went from the car, into an LLC-owned building, and into an LLC-owned business (our tax lady). Then we drove to another LLC-owned building and into another LLC-owned office (eye doctor partnership). And so on…..

John Doolittle says Charlie Brown, 26year Air Force officer as being “wrong” on fighting the “War on Terror”. A whiney little non-serving moron saying that…

Oilfieldguy #94,

Inhofe is just a good soldier doing his bit in the war on science. You see it’s all only a theory*.

Theory: see lie.

We Okies in this family call each other Okies all the time. But. We smile when we do it.

Oh, and I forgot to say:

Solomon sucks.

He steadfastly refused to completely set straight the non-issue issue of the Nevada fight tickets. The way he dribbled out the corrections, you’d have to have a whole scrapbook containing the complete series to piece together the half-dozen ways his first article was wrong, wrong, wrong.

Fixing the article piecemeal made it harder for readers to see just how much he’d wronged Harry Reid.

Despicable.

Or if you’re a Daffy Duck fan, “dethpicable.”

Oklahoma kiddo @ 102

We Okies in this family call each other Okies all the time. But. We smile when we do it.

I’m an Okie, and damn proud of it. I am ashamed that Inhofe is from the same state as me. And you can tell Toby Keith I said so.

Mrs. K8,
I’m with you in the jewelry sense.
For a little while back in those days I made turquoise and silver jewelry on a piecework basis. My favorite stone, though, is malachite. Or lapis…

Oilfieldguy @ 104

Oklahoma kiddo @ 102

We Okies in this family call each other Okies all the time. But. We smile when we do it.

I’m an Okie, and damn proud of it. I am ashamed that Inhofe is from the same state as me. And you can tell Toby Keith I said so.

That’a right!!! I pretty much assumed you are ‘one of us’.

oooh, Margot!

I envy you that talent! What a chance to be truly creative in design!

I have a few pieces — rings — made by my mother-in-laws next door neighbor, a Navajo woman — a few silver and turquoise, and one just in silver. And they’re all different sizes, so I can load them all up, several on both hands all at once.

How did you learn about that kind of jewelry work? I tried to find a book at the library about it, but no luck.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..itics.html
McCain blames Clinton for N. Korea policy

Hugh @ 93

I think that Goldman Sach’s dumping gasoline futures in early August had a lot to do with the timing of the fall in gasoline prices which were then at their peak.

So, Goldman Sach, and presumably others, make a fortune selling off futures, which means that despite a lot of talk, the money did not go to oil producing nations?

Do the gasoline companies raise prices based on futures? If so, we really got scammed, didn’t we?

oh,
and
GO TIGERS!
(Granderson just homered in the top of the 9th)

Mack @ 108

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..itics.html
McCain blames Clinton for N. Korea policy

http://www.danno.org/blogs/ima…..4_copy.jpg
EvilDrPuma yawns

EvilDrPuma @ 111

Mack @ 108

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..itics.html
McCain blames Clinton for N. Korea policy

http://www.danno.org/blogs/ima…..4_copy.jpg
EvilDrPuma yawns

the gall astounds
no surprise, just stupifying

Mack @ 112

the gall astounds

And you don’t want to go astounding Gauls.

TRex late nite is up!
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..t-discuss/

Evil Doc –

I just knew before clicking that it would be Asterix! Thanks for that!

When I lived in Europe I used to read it in German. One common exclamation in the strip was “Die spinnen, die Amis!!!” [”They’re crazy, those Yanks (Americans)!”] My German pals would quote it at me often, of course. I can only imagine how often Europeans repeat the phrase these days….

Really, McCain ticks me off so much. I’m so sorry to say that he’s my senator. Not once, NOT ONCE, has his office EVER responded to anything I’ve written to them.

#10 ilson46201, Glenn Reynolds may be backtracking:

MY EARLIER POST on the Harry Reid scandal was somewhat skeptical. But this post by Ed Morrissey suggests that there may be more to the story than I thought. Stay tuned, and let’s see whether anything develops.

http://instapundit.com/

Morrissey link:
http://www.captainsquartersblo…..008266.php

Mrs. K8,
It was a cottage industry in NM in the mid-to-late-70s, silversmithing. Just managed to learn from a few people, and bought tools as I could.
What you said about never getting a reply from McCain struck me as funny, because now, at this late date, I finally got a response from Sen. DeWine. First time ever, and I write him a lot.
“Very respectfully yours,” he signs it. Hmph.

Margot –

The silversmithing is soooo cool, kudos to you! Are you still in NM? I don’t suppose you get to AZ often, eh? Maybe we could someday put together a regional FDL event. I’d love to meet you and others.

Mrs. K8,
I wish! No, I’m in Ohio.

Fire off a Letter to the Editor of your local paper whenever they carry a John Solomon article.

AP doesn’t care about our complaints — they consider stories that generate buzz to be good for business. Accuracy and fairness isn’t a metric for them but they probably are for your local paper.

Be specific and nice but let them know the guy’s stories are fluff and not well researched, He’s unreliable and a low quality writer. Maybe they’ll think twice about running with a John Solomon Special.

This does not appear to have been mentioned: since an LLC is not a corporation and not taxed as its own entity it can not OWN property of any sort. Any piece of property attached to an LLC accrues for profit, loss, and tax purposes to the LLC owners in direct proportion to their ownership percentage.

So nothing even characterizable as “sloppy” by my reading and as a ten year veteran of LLC ownership and tax preparation thereof.

Sorry to barge in OT, but this is too sweet not to share. A new batch of Get Your War On cartoons is out, and this one line deserves the widest possible distribution:

Too bad the writ of habeas corpus wasn’t written in 1990! Because then it would be sixteen years old, and people would be scandalized when politicians started fucking with it.

Okay, let’s investigate Harry Reid, right after we spend as much time and money going after Denny Hastert and his illgotten gains in a shady land deal.

Sauce, goose, gander.

Sorry, but if Harry Reid did do something shady, he should fess up and, if bad enough, think about resigning. If we’re tired of the GOP’s corruption, we must also be realistic about corruption on our side as well and do everything we can to discourage or punish it. End of story. We’re too close now to let anyone, including Democrats with sticky fingers, screw us over this close to november!

Until Harry is actually indicted for something, I’ll consider this just more of the same old GOP bullshit.

The Cleveland (Ohio) Plain Dealer ran the AP Reid story without John Solomon’s byline. They only listed Kathleen Hennessey as the reporter. Possibly they realize that his name is toxic in this blue corner of Ohio.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer ran one reporter’s story under another reporter’s name? That’s not very professional. Sounds chickenshit to me.

WRite ‘em and let ‘em know you’re on to their scam.

If only it were true. I am sure that Jane and Kos know that if you form and LLC that you have to be a member of the LLC and that is filed with the state.

If you are not a member of an LLC and you sell your property to an LLC that you are not a member of, you sold your property.

If you are a member of an LLC you are required by law to submit your K1 form for that LLC with your tax return.

Of somone gives you $1.1 Million from an LLC that you are not a member of and you report it on you tax return as a capital gain, you screwed the American People.