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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lieberman was there to vote for:&lt;br /&gt;
Enron accounting&lt;br /&gt;
Bush War&lt;br /&gt;
Torture&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman was there to vote for:<br />
Enron accounting<br />
Bush War<br />
Torture</p>
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		<title>By: Romelee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romelee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would someone get Gore to go stand with Lamont or BABAMA HE DOES GOOD FOR OTHERS .lIEBERMAN is for privaticing s.s .wake up Ct. voters .A close vote in congress there would be two deciding votes .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would someone get Gore to go stand with Lamont or BABAMA HE DOES GOOD FOR OTHERS .lIEBERMAN is for privaticing s.s .wake up Ct. voters .A close vote in congress there would be two deciding votes .</p>
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		<title>By: appalled</title>
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		<dc:creator>appalled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lieberman is loyal to the United States of America only insofar as the US suicidally subordinates its own interests to those of the state of Israel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Give us Lieberman or give us death — it comes to the same thing, for America.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman is loyal to the United States of America only insofar as the US suicidally subordinates its own interests to those of the state of Israel.</p>
<p>Give us Lieberman or give us death — it comes to the same thing, for America.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Too funny, I just loved that graphic…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny, I just loved that graphic…</p>
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		<title>By: RWB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope Lamont wins and never liked Lieberman that much when I lived in Connecticut, but I don’t think your graph is all that illuminating. Connecticut has (I understand) the highest per capita income in the U.S.A. So it pays a LOT of Federal taxes. It would be very strange if it got back more than it paid. After all, federal taxation is somewhat redistributive. I mean, let’s say there was a perfectly “fair” distribution of federal funds on a per capita basis all over the U.S.A. In other words, imagine that every state got highway dollars, dollars for military bases, and all other federal spending in the exact proportion of the size of their population.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this thought experiment, you would expect Connecticut to have the worst ratio of pay in to recieve because of Connecticut’s high incomes. (I realize that Connecticut does not have universally high incomes–as anyone who has been in Bridgeport, New Haven or Hartford can tell you–but its average income is very, very high compared to the rest of the country.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A much better measure of how well or how poorly that Joe is bringing home the bacon would be a ranking of per capita federal spending by state. As it turns out, Connecticut ranks 3rd by that measure (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://research.greatplains.net/funding/02-03fundinganalysis.htm&quot;&gt;http://research.greatplains.ne.....alysis.htm&lt;/a&gt;). This surprises me. This study only measured “pork” (earmarks aimed directly at a particular state), National Science Foundation money, and NIH money. So it can’t be said to be the last word.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any case, it seems to me unfair to condemn Lieberman or any Connecticut politician for the ratio of tax revenues sent to the feds to fed dollars recieved. The ratio described is what you would expect from a wealthy state like Connecticut.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said–GO NED!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Lamont wins and never liked Lieberman that much when I lived in Connecticut, but I don’t think your graph is all that illuminating. Connecticut has (I understand) the highest per capita income in the U.S.A. So it pays a LOT of Federal taxes. It would be very strange if it got back more than it paid. After all, federal taxation is somewhat redistributive. I mean, let’s say there was a perfectly “fair” distribution of federal funds on a per capita basis all over the U.S.A. In other words, imagine that every state got highway dollars, dollars for military bases, and all other federal spending in the exact proportion of the size of their population.</p>
<p>In this thought experiment, you would expect Connecticut to have the worst ratio of pay in to recieve because of Connecticut’s high incomes. (I realize that Connecticut does not have universally high incomes–as anyone who has been in Bridgeport, New Haven or Hartford can tell you–but its average income is very, very high compared to the rest of the country.)</p>
<p>A much better measure of how well or how poorly that Joe is bringing home the bacon would be a ranking of per capita federal spending by state. As it turns out, Connecticut ranks 3rd by that measure (see <a href="http://research.greatplains.net/funding/02-03fundinganalysis.htm">http://research.greatplains.ne&#8230;..alysis.htm</a>). This surprises me. This study only measured “pork” (earmarks aimed directly at a particular state), National Science Foundation money, and NIH money. So it can’t be said to be the last word.</p>
<p>In any case, it seems to me unfair to condemn Lieberman or any Connecticut politician for the ratio of tax revenues sent to the feds to fed dollars recieved. The ratio described is what you would expect from a wealthy state like Connecticut.</p>
<p>That said–GO NED!</p>
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		<title>By: fkaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>fkaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Could there be a secret connection between Joe and George for the fact that their families are both from connecticut.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush is a carpet bagger pretending that he is a Texan.  The ranch that he has in Crawford has not been in the family for a long time he just bought it in 1999 and he rents cattle.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could there be a secret connection between Joe and George for the fact that their families are both from connecticut.</p>
<p>Bush is a carpet bagger pretending that he is a Texan.  The ranch that he has in Crawford has not been in the family for a long time he just bought it in 1999 and he rents cattle.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-330764&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @&lt;br /&gt;
                143              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-330489&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phil Stanhope @ 95 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jane,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness here,  but could I point out that there are 49 other states in the Union besides Connecticut, and some of us are a little &lt;b&gt;tired&lt;/b&gt; of hearing of nothing but the evil of Joe Lieberman?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, if you want to restrict your readership to the Nutmeg State, go for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Phil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So you have not yet despaired of yet another egregious comment urging people to work for, pray for, and donate to, WEBB for SENATE?  And recently, Benson for Congress–AK?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Egregious–thanks for starting the Benson Act Blue page.  It appears that Mr. Stanhope can’t find the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/category/blue-america/&quot;&gt;64 Blue America posts&lt;/a&gt; available by clicking the Blue America button under “Categories”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-330764"><em>egregious @<br />
                143              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-330489"><em>Phil Stanhope @ 95 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jane,</p>
<p>I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness here,  but could I point out that there are 49 other states in the Union besides Connecticut, and some of us are a little <b>tired</b> of hearing of nothing but the evil of Joe Lieberman?</p>
<p>Of course, if you want to restrict your readership to the Nutmeg State, go for it.</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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<p>So you have not yet despaired of yet another egregious comment urging people to work for, pray for, and donate to, WEBB for SENATE?  And recently, Benson for Congress–AK?</p>
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<p>Egregious–thanks for starting the Benson Act Blue page.  It appears that Mr. Stanhope can’t find the <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/category/blue-america/">64 Blue America posts</a> available by clicking the Blue America button under “Categories”.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-330489&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phil Stanhope @ 95 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jane,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness here,  but could I point out that there are 49 other states in the Union besides Connecticut, and some of us are a little &lt;b&gt;tired&lt;/b&gt; of hearing of nothing but the evil of Joe Lieberman?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, if you want to restrict your readership to the Nutmeg State, go for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Phil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So you have not yet despaired of yet another egregious comment urging people to work for, pray for, and donate to, WEBB for SENATE?  And recently, Benson for Congress–AK?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-330489"><em>Phil Stanhope @ 95 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jane,</p>
<p>I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness here,  but could I point out that there are 49 other states in the Union besides Connecticut, and some of us are a little <b>tired</b> of hearing of nothing but the evil of Joe Lieberman?</p>
<p>Of course, if you want to restrict your readership to the Nutmeg State, go for it.</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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<p>So you have not yet despaired of yet another egregious comment urging people to work for, pray for, and donate to, WEBB for SENATE?  And recently, Benson for Congress–AK?</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-330498&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Balrog @ 103 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-330443&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Balrog @&lt;br /&gt;
                51              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a question about EmptyWheel’s book fund drive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Class?  Anyone?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bueller here.  We totally support Marcy’s book.  Done deal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-330498"><em>Balrog @ 103 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-330443"><em>Balrog @<br />
                51              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I have a question about EmptyWheel’s book fund drive.</p>
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<p>Class?  Anyone?</p>
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<p>Bueller here.  We totally support Marcy’s book.  Done deal.</p>
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		<title>By: chisholm</title>
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		<dc:creator>chisholm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane: Sidney Blumenthal mentioned that he thought Lamont should ramp up his attacks on Lieberman’s flip-flopping on Social Security “reform,” because this would rattle his base, which are CT seniors. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did this percolate up and out of the book salon thread? Because it immediately struck me as true: for a long time I have wondered who  could support Lieberman, and when SB made that comment I suddenly connected the dots. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it: who supports Lieberman? Republicans and old-school&lt;br /&gt;
democrats and independents, right? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So wouldn’t that be (one place of oh-so many) where to hit him? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Focusing on that and his blase indifference to Foleygate, I think, could swing the momentum back to Ned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane: Sidney Blumenthal mentioned that he thought Lamont should ramp up his attacks on Lieberman’s flip-flopping on Social Security “reform,” because this would rattle his base, which are CT seniors. </p>
<p>Did this percolate up and out of the book salon thread? Because it immediately struck me as true: for a long time I have wondered who  could support Lieberman, and when SB made that comment I suddenly connected the dots. </p>
<p>Think about it: who supports Lieberman? Republicans and old-school<br />
democrats and independents, right? </p>
<p>So wouldn’t that be (one place of oh-so many) where to hit him? </p>
<p>Focusing on that and his blase indifference to Foleygate, I think, could swing the momentum back to Ned.</p>
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