
Matt Stoller catches Joe Lieberman lying again (yeah I know, it's like falling off a log):
Last Sunday, here's Joe Lieberman on the Hastert cover-up, which he used to push his ethics legislation.
These reports demand a full, independent investigation to determine exactly how the House leadership responded to the concerns that were raised about Congressman Foley's contacts with young pages....Either way, this awful incident points out a major flaw in our ethics system -- there is in fact no independent body in Congress to investigate allegations of ethical misconduct by Members and to eliminate the inherent conflict of interest in cases like this.
And today, here's Joe Lieberman on the Hastert cover-up.
I am also deeply disturbed by the reports suggesting that some in the House leadership ignored or even covered up Congressman Foley's predatory behavior. This case demands a full, immediate, and independent investigation, which is underway in the bipartisan House Ethics Committee.So from Friday to today, suddenly Congress developped the ability to investigate allegations of ethical misconduct.
As noted previously, the new Republican game plan regarding Foley is to drag the investigation out past the election -- and Joe is helping them by beating up on Democrats who don't want to let them get away with it. Small wonder. According to the USA Today/Gallup poll:
Two-thirds of those in the survey said they are following the page scandal very or somewhat closely.
More than half — 54% — said Republican leaders who knew about Foley's actions for months or years did not act against him earlier "for political reasons." By 43%-36%, they said House Speaker Dennis Hastert should resign. One-third said the scandal would make them less likely to vote for a Republican; 53% said it would make no difference.
Once again, it seems that most folks aren't buying Lieberman's excuse making. His corrupt GOP cronies certainly need all the help they can get.
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Balrog-
Are you in minneapolis?
If so, who to give money to that will give biggest bang for the buck?? Patty? Hatch?
Chuck Schumer, punk ass bitch.
This congress has shown no evidence of bi-partisanship. Joe feels he is the linkage, but he is merely the enabler who relishes in basking under the media spotlight as the “moderate”, who never brokers any deals. If anyone is broker from Liebermans actions, it is the Democratic party, and by extension, the middle class.
I challenge anyone, all the way to Dangerstein, to provide one sorry assed measley example of a compromise Joe got from the Republicans. If it is truly a compromise, I will donate $100 to Joe’s favorite charity, which excludes his “kiss my ring” PAC.
ReneND @
5
Yes Rene, Stillwater actually.
I think Hatch is better situated financially for the last mile. Patty Wetterling has been all but ignored by the MotherShip, so she’d be my call.
Thanks so much Rene!
Balrog @ 8
oopppsie.
ReneND @ 9
We are looking for a Blue sweep next month, so your support is awesome.
Holy Joe a flip-flopper? Maybe Rove’s memo to Joe was late because his Special $122,000 a year Assistant had to resign.
AP reporting that goopers have decided to build a firewall to prevent a thorough power meltdown. They have decided to spend whatever is needed to win in Missouri, Ohio, and Tennessee. If they can hold at least one of the three senate seats, there will be no dem majority in the senate. Pretty smart strategy- let’s see how it works out. Will dems match the commitment? Those ARE the senate races that matter the most.
Every ad people see for Republicans, they need to ask themselves if that ad was paid for by pedophilia hush money.
This is when we should find out whether or not the goopers retained their large money advantage this election year. Much of the moneyh will be raised in the next few weeks. Dems are more motivated- so they may be able to close the gap.
EVERYTHING Holy Joe says is linked to bi-partisian because it gives him some “reason for being” a party of one.
Seems a lot of boats, Like the Eisenhower group and shit are headed for the Persian Gulg. Maybe Dubya is working on his own “October Surprise”. Are they planning on delivering a trick or treat to Iran?
What Oilfield guy said…
Oilfieldguy @ 14
Oh, and repeat after me
Pedophilia and rape are sexual crimes, not sexual preferences.
Don’t get the two confused.
One wonders what linkage a really independent investigator would find between RGJoe’s votes for Big Pharma and Mrs. RGJoe’s non-lobbyist paycheck from Hill&Knowlton.
Jane: Keep up this “posting pressure” on Lieberman. It’s good, and I think it’s going to ignite in the nonblogosphere.
Mack @
18
Actually, it’s sexual ORIENTATION. Not a CHOICE, nor a preference. It is the way you come out - hardwired into the system. The only choice involved is to live your life as a LIE… or, not.
WEBB Allen Senate debate Cspan NOW
chisholm @
20
I think the energy is picking up. People are getting back into it again.
I think you’re being a little hard on poor Joe. I mean, if Hastert can’t keep the talking points straight, why get all bent up if Joe can’t do it?
In a related note, Jack Cafferty’s emails on CNN last hour included a gem of a comment from one viewer: “Tony Snow-job is sounding more and more like Baghdad Bob every day.”
Ain’t it the truth!
Mack @
18
Actually, “pedophilia” is a dysfunctional sexual orientation; child molestation is a sexual crime.
However, both are irrelevant to Foleygate. He’s accused of sexual harassment and predation, not child molestation.
‘I am Cornholijoe, my bunghole will speak now‘
;>)
JupiterPluvius @ 25
Foley is (sad to say) small potatoes. As bad as his behavior was, what the Republican leadership has done - or not done - in this matter is what gets everyone worked up. With Hastert & Co, the words that come to mind are “aiding and abetting,” “willful negligence,” and “turning a blind eye.”
Yeah, that’s the image of leadership every political party wants to have highlighted.
And now the Ethics Committee gets to try to clean it up? After being effectively shut down by Tom Delay, this is their first real work in almost two years. Not exactly confidence-inspiring, if you ask me.
Alter says on Olbermann that the Democrats should want to take back both houses of Congress primarily to hold the Republicans accountable for what they’ve done. I can’t improve on that.
I am hit and miss on this site, so sorry if it is posted elsewhere, but any indication that things are turning for Lamont in Conn? The general polls all look good, what about Conn?
Peterr @
24
so Joe’s a dick. what else is new?
(comma added: literary license.)
darkblack @
26
I was a part of the group that trashed “Blog of Joe” - an Eric Blankenbaker was the blogmeister for LieberLiar. Folk did a lil searching on the InnerTubes and found out Eric had an active social life. Very active. Quite the party animal. Folk were posting photo URLs of Joe’s Blogmeister in drunken stupors, stupid expressions, etc. The very next day, Joe shut down free speech on his “blog” !
I take some tiny bit of solace from the fact that Christian conservatives helped defeat Ralph Reed, one of their former darlings in Georgia. Perhaps the right-wing Christian cons will at least stay away from the polls as a result of the Republican dirty deeds. Of course I’m not about to hold by breath on this. As noted on Olbermann, Christian cons are great rationalizers.
Evening Firedogs,
rwcole -
the races in Missouri and Tennessee are now tight for them b/c they pulled this firewall tactic in RI for Chaffee - pulling their best & brightest from everywhere else - Ford was 13 points down at that point and now he’s 5 up and his opponent fired his entire staff last week - I’m not necessarily disagreeing w/ you, but this will have consequences in other races, maybe even in some they consider ’safe’
btw - so glad to have you back here in time for November - hope Mrs. Cole has stayed away from the green tea and is well*g*
Peterr @ 24
Mohammed al-Sahef! Last seen as a commentator on al-Jazeera. “He stands superior to truth.” Someone needs to do the photoshop of Snow-job in the cute little beret and military outfit.
As for Holy Joe: yawn. Joe once again confuses bipartisanship with bending over. Man bites dog.
What’s Liarman got to say about North Korea nukes? How did his kissin cousin Bushie make us safer there?
Lamont’s ads are OK, but there’s no knockout. How about a top ten list of all the bi-partisan concessions Liarman gained from his Repugnican cohorts… all blank!
Oklahoma Kiddo -
I’m with Gilliard here -
keep seeing this here at home - so many of the fundie women I encounter share Cokie’s sentiments and outrage - will have to see this week if Dobson & Perkins have worked their magic - kinda doubt it
1,298 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
ReneND:
I live jest across the St. Croix River from the Twin Cities and am a native born DFL Minnesotan…the Democrats have a chance to pick up THREE house seats: Patti Wetterling, in a conservative but “swing” district in eastern Twin Cities, is the DFL candidate against Minnesota’s own Michelle Batshit Crazy Bachman. We got the FBI 9/11 whistle blower runnin against a two term incumbent wingnut in what used ta be the Republican fortress 2nd district. And we got a veteran and social studies teacher runnin’ against Gil Gutknecht in the 1st district. All three races are the DFL’s to win and if ya go thru Move On or ActBlue you can target your money…the 1st and 2nd district candidates need money to run the “Have You Had Enough” ads in the Twin City’s media prime time (WCCO) and Patti has finally got it together and is hammerin’ away with Predatorgate ads.
Hatch is gunna blow Pawlenty outta the water…actually, Pawlenty’s record is gunna put him outta his misery…so I would (and have) give(n) money to the house candidates aforementioned.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION THE FUN HAS JUST STARTED!!!
I also believe the republicans are concentrating on states where they have the, ahem, ‘electronic advantage’ going for them. We know for a fact that Ohio can’t get its polls open in dem districts, nor can they get their ‘machines’ to work in dem districts.
But to make the vote stealing believable, they must be within the margin of error — soo the big funding. There are just some states where the voting stealing will keep those seats. We must take those states and make them highlights of our vote watching. Altho even here in MN we have some of those awful machines. Guess which counties have them? Yup - dem counties close to the big cities which are majorly dem.
*ilson46201 @
31
What? Joe stifling free speech?
But he seemed so…so…so ‘liberal’…!
;>)
Norske - yup, Minnesota is looking good. Hatch is a good man but I thought he might have trouble with the “salesman” Pawlenty, but saw some recent interviews, and he is hitting on all cynlinders. And Patty has become passionate and persuasive and is not getting knocked off her message. Recent callers on NPR all noticed it and applauded her.
litigatormom @
34
I hear it snowed in Baghdad…Well, 5 months ago.
;>)
beth meacham (commenter from a couple of posts back) sets the record straight for me. Jimmy Carter DID get the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002. I didn’t know that.
I guess I better put a time limit on this:
Been over an hour and I ain’t seen shit that’ll cost me a hundred dollars. Maybe we should pool our resources and put a big ol’ fat LTE challenge to Lieberman?
Some worthwhile cause for CT could be the beneficiary, all we would need is verifiable proof that Lieberman got his Republican girlfriends to cave for Dem’s one time during Smoochies term.
Does this tactic seem worthwhile to create a buzz and highlight the lowlight of Joe “consensus builder” bullshit?
Wouldn’t a bipartisan candidate have the endorsement of both parties, rather than neither?
Sorry to bring up such an obvious question, but these days sometimes I need reassurance that the English language still works the way it used to.
I would like to see an ad go up in CT with just a rollcall of the republicans that have endorsed Joe - AND a list of some of his funders.
Instead of one example, perhaps we should ask for three concessions Lieberman received from the Republicans.
We could get Tommy Yum to do a rework of Skynnards “Gimme Three Steps” for giggles.
NorskeFlamethrower @
37
Kos has some info up on MN right now.
JOE KNEW!! Joe Liebermean walked the halls of the Capitol for 18 years. He had to know about FoleyGate. Has anyone asked him this question?
Lieberman is a liar, he does it with apparent impunity, and with great frequency. The problem is how to convey this to the portion of CT populace that still feels “comfortable” with him.
Lamont needs to step it up, and his supporters need to do same. The way to do this, perhaps, is to reenergize the same part of the electorate that dumped Joe in the primaries. The white heat of that “uprising” has cooled way off, which of course always happens after an emotional high.
It was a unique set of circumstances, not the least of which was that the news cycle was slow and it was the dog days of summer.
Now there are a thousand other things crying out for our attention, and while most of them seem good for the Dems come 11/7, I can’t seem to shake this depressing thought that Lieberman could still be around, something any sane person will probably end up regretting.
What to do, what to do?
Perhaps some attention and efforts can be swung back around to spotlight Lamont once again. Let’s create some more excitement around his campaign. Let’s emphasize the critical point that control of the Senate might easily hinge on his ouster, and how he will block any real review of the Repubs past actions.
Inertia is a tough dog. Lieberman is almost by definition the embodiment of inertia. Let’s all figure a way to jolt the electorate out of its stupor.
This race is probably more key than most people realize.
Breaking on Scarborough! Study claims that Jon Stewart is the real deal and he presents the same amount of news as News Channels.
Watch it.
Olbermann and Stewart. I am in a constant state of actual awe with these two.
Me too. This is worth watching tonite.
Inertia is a tough dog. Lieberman is almost by definition the embodiment of inertia. Let’s all figure a way to jolt the electorate out of its stupor.
This race is probably more key than most people realize.
This race is absolutely iconic. If Lieberman can’t be dislodged, it will be the signal for me to take my family and leave the country. If he stays in Congress, it will mean turning away from the iceberg isn’t possible in the time frame required. The wrong people will still be at the wheel.
From Scarborough:
20 million under 30 voted in 2004
Highest number of citizens of one group
21% got their news from Stewart
PS: Colbert still has that seat ready for Joe Lieberman. But Joe won’t go on because he is a chickenhawk. He is like someone else we know–he can’t handle direct questions which is why he cannot blog.
New Definitions:
Slog-a blog with no comments
Slogger- a blog owner with no comments (see Joe2006.)
A vote for Joe
is the status quo…
More of our soldiers dying in Iraq…or leaving limbs on the blood-soaked ground.
More of risky, reckless foreign policy.
More of the Republican Congress caring more about its power than America’s children.
More of Big Pharma making your healthcare decisions for you.
More status quo…
until CT says no to Joe.
NYT/CBS: Bush at 34%
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10.....r=homepage
ReneND @
5
Not Balrog, but another active Minnesotan - Patty needs the money - now -please help her! She is in a Red district fighting an awful opponent!
Hatch needs some help too, but I think he has more $$$$ support than Patty.
Thanks for asking! MN needs to turn BLUE again! But it is not going to be easy!
Thanks for all the help you all can give to Patty, Colleen, Amy and — Wendy Wilde, who is opposing Jim Ramstad the R who used to be centrist and who has now been voting 94% with Bush the past few years! He has one million dollars - she has $50,000! She is brilliant - but needs help!
Kathie
ccmask @ 55
http://www.Joe2006Blog.com or http://www.BlogofJoe.com or http://www.LieberBlog.com
I have No Quarter, Larry Johnson’s blog, on my RSS feed. The top article appears to be “Wrecking Patrick Fitzgerald?” but the article won’t come up. Does anyone see that?
GrandmaJ @ 38
I’m planning on casting an absentee ballot here in Columbus, GrandmaJ. The librarian told me, when I asked for the ballot, that “we don’t have Diebold machines in Franklin County”.
But they (aka that FAUX Christian Blackwell) still have the ability to restrict voting machines.
Ok, I contributed to Patty. I couldn’t find her on the act blue page (either it’s not there or I’m tired and missed it), so I went to her page. Go, Patty!
OK, now it will be Rove’s turn.
What will Rove do??
How about dig up something on the democrats??
No, I’ve got it, Rove will just falsify something to be revealed say 7 to 10 days before the election.
Not to worry the accusations will go away after the election as well as the mysterious multiple sources.
Will need a secret name for the sources, how about Curve Ball?? Already been used. Plenty of time to come up with a different more reliable name.
Also, unlikely Mr Foley broke any laws, after all he helped write the laws. He is sick not stupid, unless the drinky drinky caused amnesia.
This is a dumb but perhaps interesting comment… why does Joe always have his hand all clinched up in a fist? I noticed alot of pics with him holding up a ” fight sign”. I haven’t really read alot about Joe since the primary but even then, alot of pictures show this. When he walks in the parades and stuff he frequently gives this” sign”. It looks down right pathetic to me at this point though…. so I am wondering if we have anyone who can maybe analyze why he clinches his fist in his pics?????? Kinda like the man who puts his hand in the coat in every picture isn’t it??????