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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-330183</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cokie Roberts, last time I looked she was a pompas media  whore.  I think that she, who was so rah, rah for the war, has no right to express that sort of sentiment.  Gee, she thinks it’s “silly” that the repugs are circling the wagons and shooting each other.  fuck her!  This is what I think, she is nerviously looking left and right, trying to find the exit and the life boat cause the ship she was happy to be on is sinking.  Rats abandon ships when they sink.  She belongs at the bottom with the rest of the Paige shtooping, war starting cowardly scum.  Iraq War. Up to 48,000 civilian dead.  2,743 Americans dead, 20,468 wounded.  Did she get all wound up  about this stuff?  She speaking on behalf of all the mothers whos hearts are torn to shreds by the deaths and mangled bodies  of their children.  She supported the war.  Fuck her.  She pisses me off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cokie Roberts, last time I looked she was a pompas media  whore.  I think that she, who was so rah, rah for the war, has no right to express that sort of sentiment.  Gee, she thinks it’s “silly” that the repugs are circling the wagons and shooting each other.  fuck her!  This is what I think, she is nerviously looking left and right, trying to find the exit and the life boat cause the ship she was happy to be on is sinking.  Rats abandon ships when they sink.  She belongs at the bottom with the rest of the Paige shtooping, war starting cowardly scum.  Iraq War. Up to 48,000 civilian dead.  2,743 Americans dead, 20,468 wounded.  Did she get all wound up  about this stuff?  She speaking on behalf of all the mothers whos hearts are torn to shreds by the deaths and mangled bodies  of their children.  She supported the war.  Fuck her.  She pisses me off.</p>
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		<title>By: RicK</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-330146</link>
		<dc:creator>RicK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My second e-mail to Rep. Putnam:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rep. Putnam,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re getting nailed on FireDogLake as well.  Here’s the link:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#more-4881&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....#more-4881&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Time to come clean, Rep. Putnam.  Rep. Hastert DID NOT DEMAND REP. FOLEY’S RESIGNATION.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My second e-mail to Rep. Putnam:</p>
<p>Rep. Putnam,</p>
<p>You’re getting nailed on FireDogLake as well.  Here’s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#more-4881">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..#more-4881</a></p>
<p>Time to come clean, Rep. Putnam.  Rep. Hastert DID NOT DEMAND REP. FOLEY’S RESIGNATION.</p>
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		<title>By: RicK</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-330144</link>
		<dc:creator>RicK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My e-mail to Adam Putnam today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You stated on national TV that:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;     PUTNAM:  Based on the information we have today, the speaker’s office acted proactively, they acted aggressively, and within hours, within hours of the explicit e-mails coming to light, they demanded Foley’s resignation.  Contrast that to previous scandals. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is the basis for your claim that Rep. Hastert demanded that Rep. Foley resign?  This is the same falsehood being peddled by your RNC chair Mr. Ken Mehlman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“This is not a claim that can be debated or spun. They’re claiming that Hastert threatened Foley with expulsion unless he resigned. That either happened or it didn’t. And it simply did not happen. Hastert has made clear from the beginning of this scandal that he only learned of the IMs last Friday when they were reported by ABC. Hastert has claimed that he would have demanded Foley’s resignation or expulsion had he known about the IMs. But in fact, Foley resigned before ABC made the IMs public and received no such ultimatum from Hastert.”  Read the rest of the article here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/10/why-isnt-ken-mehlman-lie-bigger-story.html&quot;&gt;http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.....story.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rep. Hastert DID NOT demamd Rep. Foley’s resignation.  Rep. Foley resigned BEFORE THE ALLEGATIONS WENT PUBLIC BY ABC.  Rep. Hastert MERELY STATED that he WOULD HAVE DEMANDED the resignation of Rep. Foley.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You need to come clean on this, Rep. Putnam.  You are at best wrong.  At worst, you spoke a deliberate falsehood.  What is it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My e-mail to Adam Putnam today:</p>
<p>You stated on national TV that:</p>
<p>     PUTNAM:  Based on the information we have today, the speaker’s office acted proactively, they acted aggressively, and within hours, within hours of the explicit e-mails coming to light, they demanded Foley’s resignation.  Contrast that to previous scandals. </p>
<p>What is the basis for your claim that Rep. Hastert demanded that Rep. Foley resign?  This is the same falsehood being peddled by your RNC chair Mr. Ken Mehlman.</p>
<p>“This is not a claim that can be debated or spun. They’re claiming that Hastert threatened Foley with expulsion unless he resigned. That either happened or it didn’t. And it simply did not happen. Hastert has made clear from the beginning of this scandal that he only learned of the IMs last Friday when they were reported by ABC. Hastert has claimed that he would have demanded Foley’s resignation or expulsion had he known about the IMs. But in fact, Foley resigned before ABC made the IMs public and received no such ultimatum from Hastert.”  Read the rest of the article here:  <a href="http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/10/why-isnt-ken-mehlman-lie-bigger-story.html">http://glenngreenwald.blogspot&#8230;..story.html</a></p>
<p>Rep. Hastert DID NOT demamd Rep. Foley’s resignation.  Rep. Foley resigned BEFORE THE ALLEGATIONS WENT PUBLIC BY ABC.  Rep. Hastert MERELY STATED that he WOULD HAVE DEMANDED the resignation of Rep. Foley.</p>
<p>You need to come clean on this, Rep. Putnam.  You are at best wrong.  At worst, you spoke a deliberate falsehood.  What is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-330124</link>
		<dc:creator>Goblin Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s hilarious seeing Cokie go after the GOP.  I remember her in Iowa in 2000 where she was practically drooling over Bush, talking about how wonderful he was and how there wasn’t this much buzz around the Iowa caucuses in a long time.  But she’s damn right about the GOP here.  I guess her and the MSM will defend practically anything else these pricks do, except pedophilia.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s hilarious seeing Cokie go after the GOP.  I remember her in Iowa in 2000 where she was practically drooling over Bush, talking about how wonderful he was and how there wasn’t this much buzz around the Iowa caucuses in a long time.  But she’s damn right about the GOP here.  I guess her and the MSM will defend practically anything else these pricks do, except pedophilia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kolbe has done the right thing now &#171; cannablog</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-330076</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kolbe has done the right thing now &#171; cannablog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Hat-tip to Christy Hardin Smith. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-330070</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-329964&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;darrelplant @&lt;br /&gt;
                               141              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally, I say what in the hell is wrong with Cokie Roberts that she’s surprised by the Republican page scandal and cover-up? How out of touch does someone have to be to be outraged by that after six years of the Bush administration’s tactics, from secret meetings with energy lobbyists and the rape of the West Coast electricity market to the bogus claims in the Iraq war and the deaths of tens of thousands of people to Katrina and everything else? And she’s upset by emails and possible buggery of young men?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly. You see, Cokie — while she made an excellent statement here — appears to be reacting with irritation that the Republicans failed in the political stage on this one — not because she really cares about the pages. I mean, how about the dead U.S. soldiers? How about &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; mothers? Not to mention the dead and wounded Iraqis, gosh, I guess &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; would be expecting too much of her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You see, to these rich and famous so-called journalists, only the spectacle, the lights and the music mean anything. The important issues about the Bush administration and Republican treachery have been right in front of Cokie’s eyes for… well, for many years, come on. How can she pretend to be shocked — shocked — that House members are sexually harassing pages? No, she’s just mad because her party mishandled the PR on this. She understands that they are dumb and incompetent, but she misses that they are truly bad and unscrupulous people who are pushing totalitarianism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, I used to admire Cokie when she was on NPR. At that time she seemed reasonably objective. How have the Republicans corrupted these perhaps basically decent people so thoroughly and so quickly?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-329964"><em>darrelplant @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Personally, I say what in the hell is wrong with Cokie Roberts that she’s surprised by the Republican page scandal and cover-up? How out of touch does someone have to be to be outraged by that after six years of the Bush administration’s tactics, from secret meetings with energy lobbyists and the rape of the West Coast electricity market to the bogus claims in the Iraq war and the deaths of tens of thousands of people to Katrina and everything else? And she’s upset by emails and possible buggery of young men?</p>
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<p>Exactly. You see, Cokie — while she made an excellent statement here — appears to be reacting with irritation that the Republicans failed in the political stage on this one — not because she really cares about the pages. I mean, how about the dead U.S. soldiers? How about <i>their</i> mothers? Not to mention the dead and wounded Iraqis, gosh, I guess <i>that</i> would be expecting too much of her.</p>
<p>You see, to these rich and famous so-called journalists, only the spectacle, the lights and the music mean anything. The important issues about the Bush administration and Republican treachery have been right in front of Cokie’s eyes for… well, for many years, come on. How can she pretend to be shocked — shocked — that House members are sexually harassing pages? No, she’s just mad because her party mishandled the PR on this. She understands that they are dumb and incompetent, but she misses that they are truly bad and unscrupulous people who are pushing totalitarianism.</p>
<p>By the way, I used to admire Cokie when she was on NPR. At that time she seemed reasonably objective. How have the Republicans corrupted these perhaps basically decent people so thoroughly and so quickly?</p>
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		<title>By: darrelplant</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-329964</link>
		<dc:creator>darrelplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personally, I say what in the hell is wrong with Cokie Roberts that she’s surprised by the Republican page scandal and cover-up? How out of touch does someone have to be to be outraged by that after six years of the Bush administration’s tactics, from secret meetings with energy lobbyists and the rape of the West Coast electricity market to the bogus claims in the Iraq war and the deaths of tens of thousands of people to Katrina and everything else? And she’s upset by emails and possible buggery of young men? If the Republicans are willing to put troops in harm’s way and kill innocent Iraqis, does she really think they’re going to have qualms about covering up Foley’s actions?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I say what in the hell is wrong with Cokie Roberts that she’s surprised by the Republican page scandal and cover-up? How out of touch does someone have to be to be outraged by that after six years of the Bush administration’s tactics, from secret meetings with energy lobbyists and the rape of the West Coast electricity market to the bogus claims in the Iraq war and the deaths of tens of thousands of people to Katrina and everything else? And she’s upset by emails and possible buggery of young men? If the Republicans are willing to put troops in harm’s way and kill innocent Iraqis, does she really think they’re going to have qualms about covering up Foley’s actions?</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-329943</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HotFlash — signal shows up in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=home&quot;&gt;European-MiddleEastern  Seismological Center&lt;/a&gt;.  Still looking for Asian data.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HotFlash — signal shows up in the <a href="http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=home">European-MiddleEastern  Seismological Center</a>.  Still looking for Asian data.</p>
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		<title>By: Richmond</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-329938</link>
		<dc:creator>Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;O.T. Sorry if this was brought up earlier (I am hitting and running here, alas - work :-()but, there is a terrific piece today and yesterday in the Boston Globe about the impact of the Bush evangelicals on foreign aid - truly shocking, and wonderfully researched and written. Ditto the NYTimes the last couple of days on the impact of same on work environment, healthcare, land use etc. (basically they are outside the law). Both of these are page 1 items - and lengthy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also today in NYTimes, Kirkpatric (their right winger, relig writer) has up something (p.1) that Foley will not impact the Repubs because they blame it on Foley not the party. (B.S.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.T. Sorry if this was brought up earlier (I am hitting and running here, alas &#8211; work :-()but, there is a terrific piece today and yesterday in the Boston Globe about the impact of the Bush evangelicals on foreign aid &#8211; truly shocking, and wonderfully researched and written. Ditto the NYTimes the last couple of days on the impact of same on work environment, healthcare, land use etc. (basically they are outside the law). Both of these are page 1 items &#8211; and lengthy.</p>
<p>Also today in NYTimes, Kirkpatric (their right winger, relig writer) has up something (p.1) that Foley will not impact the Repubs because they blame it on Foley not the party. (B.S.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/09/cutting-through-the-spin/#comment-329936</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HotFlash — interesting, about that RedPuma site and the lack of a signal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Got anything from Asian detection systems?  I think I’d trust them more on this matter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HotFlash — interesting, about that RedPuma site and the lack of a signal.</p>
<p>Got anything from Asian detection systems?  I think I’d trust them more on this matter.</p>
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