So, I snuck in to Karl Rove's closet basement, where I found him conjuring the spirits of Richard Nixon and Lee Atwater from Hell during his time of need:
Enter Richard Nixon and Lee Atwater in a blinding flash of light. The stench of sulphur fills the room.
Karl: WTF, guys?
Nixon: Lighten up, you fat bastard.
Karl: Hey, I've been losing weight.
Nixon: Federal investigations will do that to you.
Atwater: So why did you call us this time?
Karl: It's that Foley bitch. It's fucking exploded.
Atwater: You knew it was just a matter of time.
Nixon: Blame the faggots.
Karl: That's only taking us so far. There are too many of them on the inside, and that Fordham bastard won't take the fall. Bitchy queens. Now's he's singing to the feds and the rest of the Gay Men's Chorus on the Hill is flirting with blackmailing us because they don't want to be outed.
Nixon: Don't you have the goods on them?
Karl: Of course we do, but it's mutually assured destruction. They know where the pages are buried, and much more. I've got Mehlman on top of the RNC, ‘fer chrissakes.
Atwater: Not exactly the "top" type, eh?
Karl: You could say that.
Atwater: So what's your next move?
Karl: The polls are total shit. Hastert is toxic. We can't control the story like we do on Iran and stuff because people pay attention to 16 year olds and their jerkoff IM's. This is bigger than American Fucking Idol. I'm trying to change the subject as many ways as I know how, but it's not easy.
Nixon: Attack the media. Do what you did with Rather: raise some shit about the fonts and documents. Create enough smoke about forgeries and conspiracies and maybe things will settle down.
Karl: But ABC just gave us a nice hand job on 9-11.
Nixon: All the more reason to apply the pressure now. After the heat they took, they'll want to do some token shit to make themselves look a little independent, you know, "Hey, we get it from both sides, we're doing something right." Fuck ‘em. Brian Ross needs to eat shit.
Karl: We're working on it. We're getting to all the pages, or trying to, and no one really wants to be famous. We took a lot of crap over going after them but it had to be done.
Atwater: But it won't be enough. You have to go after the Democrats and their treasonous terrorist loving queers as much as you can. Remind the fundies who the real degenerates are. Turnout, turnout, turnout. Get the coloreds, too, somehow.
Karl: The race thing is a little tougher this year. Those bastards on the Internet are pushing back. They got George Allen on the macaca thing, so the media is a little more wary of the race angle. Fucking Internet liberals.
Nixon: You have to kill that Internet shit. Allen's a good guy, but he's ass-cracker stupid.
Karl: We're working on it.
Atwater: So why don't you just dump Hastert, call for an independent investigation from the feds to delay it, have Gonzales set it up right, and make a big push on Iran right away? Nothing like some night vision cruise missile shit on CNN to get everybody back in line.
Nixon: Henry should be able to help with that.
Karl: Oh, believe me, Henry wants to go, it's the Joint Chiefs who are grinding it into procedural dust, and the CIA practically has an office set up in Times Square, and not in a good way. The fucking leaks are killing us. I can see we have to dump Denny, but the problem is the transition: there's no good organization in place to stay disciplined going into the election, and once the center gives way on the Hill, it could be a fucking mess, quotes all over the papers, knives out all over. I need time to build the fallback, some kind of orderly retreat, use Denny as a shield for now.
Atwater: Then all you can do is sow confusion and play for time. Defend on the Sunday shows but get ready to make a transition as soon as next week. Get everyone lined up to salute the new chief and go into November unified.
Nixon: The coverup is killing you. You have to fake authenticity and pretend to want to get at the truth. The whole 9-11 Commission thing, a replay. Better yet, like the Phase II investigation. Let's face it: the House is all but lost unless Emanuel totally fucks up, but hang on to the Senate. You've got to hold the Senate. If Lee can't help you go after Ford in Tennessee, no one can. You've got to play the race thing because Powell's book is coming soon. Lay down some covering fire. Keep the base tight with robocalls and fliers off the national radar.
Karl: Yeah, I know. Fags, n*****s and Muslims, all the way. Confuse the issues and build an orderly retreat. If I can save Hastert a little longer, I can maybe do some jujitsu as an October surprise and when we dump him, we can position it as a big reform movement. Let him absorb all the heat late into the cycle, then dump him and we're born again heroes. Turn it into a plus but promise everyone they'll be covered by an investigation controlled by Gonzales, so they don't have to worry about a new Congress getting in the way. How does that sound?
Nixon: It could work. You don't have much else. Good luck.
Atwater: Yeah, good luck with that. Oh, and Karl?
Karl: Yeah?
Atwater: Don't forget Lieberman.
Karl: Yeah, he's getting all the talking points. I hate that little prick, but he's useful for now. Like toilet paper.
Atwater: Right. . . and oh, Karl?
Karl: What?
Atwater: We're keeping a seat here warm for you.
Karl: Yeah, I know. I know.
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Sweet! Go Tigers!
And now for today’s EPU’d comments:
Fitz used baseball analogies last year, so I’ll give it a try.
The Yankees were sent packing today by the Detroit Tigers. Home again early for the 6th year in a row. And all of them are incredulous, wondering aloud ‘B-b-but we are the Champs! This just can’t be!’ And yadda, and yadda, and on.
First think of Lieberman, then of the whole Rethug party. Then think of how sweet it will be if we all work hard enough and long enough, like the Tigers did, to make this upset a reality.
Congratulations Detroit (from a Twins fan) and congratulations FDL for working so hard toward a goal. Let’s make November the second upset in a row.
50 more Quatloos on the Ned!
-AND-
Hey GrandmaJ!
Did you catch our hometown hero on the Weekly Moron Spew response? Talk about playing to Patty’s strength. She was terrific.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Dem_sa ys_GOP_leaders_swept_Foley_1007.html
Zero and one. Where is the new Paris Hilton pot story posted that has distracted everyone?
I’m watching the end of the Mets game, gang.
…sigh… And 2. Where can I buy a ‘LOSER’ tombstone?
OK Pach…are you breathing a little easier now?
What Lee failed to mention, is that the seat waiting for Turd Blossom is THE hellmouth shithouse throne — Unka Karl is gonna spend eternity with the red hot cheeks of old Scratch hisself, dumping white hot acid diarrhea all over ol’ Karl.
Enjoy your time here, Karl — and pray there ain’t no Hell.
Two questions EPU’D
1-Is there a thread explaining this Trex/ Nancy Grace thingy?? I feel so out of it.
2-Is there anything organized that we can do for Ned besides money. I sent Hillary back a card saying she would see money when she stood side by side with Ned. Any way to get the Clintons attention where it should be??
RBG @ 6
The Mets apparently don’t realize that they don’t have enough starting pitching left to win.
Unlike the Yankees.
RBG @ 5
Slightly. But I’ve seen too much baseball in my life ever to relax.
This being the time of Oktoberfests, and now Jumpin’ Joe is so concerned about fashion, I wonder if he’ll be wearing any Lieberhosen.
Oh to be a fly on the wall.
But what is the october surprise? Invaid Iran? Bring the hostages home? Arrest the Democratic leadership as members of a continuing criminal enterprize?
The “blame the queers” strategy hasn’t been going so well, has it? They took one shot at Fordham, and he came right back with a “shock and awe” attack. Denny Hastert and his chief of staff are still reeling from that one.
Trandahl would be an obvious person to try to pin this one on, but his name has been in the mix for over a week, and absolutely NO ONE is willing to say anything negative about him. I have this mental image of him sitting at his desk on under a sign that says, “I can go ‘zero’ to ‘bitch’ in 2.5 seconds.” He’s clearly not someone to be trifled with.
I really hope that seat stays warm for him, but not right away. What Rove deserves is ten or fifteen years in jail, fined into penury, his reputation so destroyed that not even a future Bush would let him run a campaign, and he lives in a shithole nursing home, with a Nurse Ratchet giving him daily enemas, until he’s 105.
Then he gets the reserved seating….
So I’ve always wondered…is there any truth in the stories about Atwater’s deathbed conversion or are they just political myths?
Wow, you HAVE been a fly on the wall of hell, haven’t you?
I miss Buffy. And Angel too.
nice passage, Met fan.
Karl should get the brain cancer and die the gruesome death that made Atwater beg for forgiveness.
Peterboy:
You should work for Hallmark Greeting Cards.
I sense a slump here. Where is everyone?
RBG @ 16
It’s always sounded to me like a last-ditch try at getting into heaven. I doubt St Peter bought it.
Clearly the gay GOP mafia on the Hill — Trandahl and Fordham among them — wanted nothing to do with protecting a Congressman who was up to no good with pages. Trandahl left for the Fish and Wildlife gig and Fordham babysat Foley until he couldn’t handle it anymore, realizing the Leaders weren’t gonna deal with Foley. These gays aren’t going under any buses soon; Fordham’s hit back hard and recruited current staffers to talk to ABC & WaPo. Trandahl’s lawyered up and been real quiet.
Betcha there’s more and it hits Tuesday.
hi, Karl, it’s October. Surprise!
Pachacutec,
Thees post, she has seemply shredded the Republiculos.
Su garras son muy afilado esta noche, no?
I am surprised that joo are no having trouble typing weeth claws so sharp.
so.
Pachacutec;
sad news you ar ein the company of evil as Bobo is a Mets fan. Sunday he writes a truly awful column–even for him–including this:
“The Mets will lose, and I will make the lifeless trudge to the unforgiving fridge in search of liquid anesthesia.”
he is such a thinker and a poet.
Maybe everyone is resting tonight after a long day canvassing door-to-door.
ReneND – here you go – Trex and Nancy Grace:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ncy-grace/
Frank Probst @
21
Yeah, must have been a tough sell when your proteges are named Abramoff, Norquist, and Reed.
TeddySanFran @ 25
I like that idea. On a smaller scale, I convinced my deeply religious mother-in-law to vote a straight Dem ticket. Minnesota is looking great this fall!
Everyone’s watching Billy Wagner close out the game. . .
Right?
TeddySanFran @ 22
I’m quite sure that there’s more, but I’m having a hard time guessing what’s going to happen next. I think Jeff Palmer’s going to get the ax, but he sounds so unstable right now that no one can really predict what he’s going to do. Trandahl intrigues me. Maybe Fish and Wildlife was his dream job, but I doubt it. He got the e-mails, he had to realize what they meant, and then he just vanished from the floor of the House. Now he’s not talking, and even his lawyer’s not talking. And no one is willing to talk about him, either. Anyone got any guesses as to what’s up there?
Pachacutec @ 29
Right, we’re watching, or right, he’s closing out the game?
Siun @ 26
Good post Pach. This has been a most astounding week. I honestly think I’m in a state of shock. I keep having this overwhelming feeling that it can’t be a sex scandal that may give us both houses. Lets hope the DC bubblehead dems don’t screw it up.
Pachacutec @ 29
I’m listening to Wagner, close enough?
RBG @ 27
What about this? My Uncle died last fall after a short bout with Big C.
My ‘Dad’ swears up and down that Uncle accepted Jeebus after the 2 minute warning, thus got his harp and wings.
Unc and I used to party together, and I’m surprised by this. Not that he chose this route, but that it might work. His boat was christened ‘Cirrhosis of the River’. We tripped together often and blew fatties.
Does it work to call timeout with seconds left?
Eli, don’t torment me. I’m feeling very fragile.
Pachacutec @ 29
Yes! Party on!
who?
Kewalo @ 33
Just as long as everyone stays civil, it’s in the bag.
Pachacutec @ 36
Just as long as everyone stays civil, it’s in the bag.
Woohoo!!!
Thank God. I could not have survived Oliver Perez tomorrow.
Oh, and Kirk Gibson? Eat shit. You too, Mike Sciosa.
Ok, back to politics and Late Nite.
Eli @ 38
From your fingers to God’s eyes.
Pachacutec @ 40
Hey, if Kenny “Bases-Loaded Walk” Rogers can throw a gem in the postseason, *anyone* can throw a gem in the postseason.
Kewalo @ 42
So… the Holy Trinity is Larry, Moe, & Curly?
TeddySanFran @ 25
I was hoping everyone was lighting candles for the Dodgers.
Guess the candles were dark.
Curley Shuffle, baby.
Pachacutec @ 46
Did someone say Curly Shuffle?
Here’s a brilliant WaPo effort:
Those damned planes and containers are part of the Librul media.
Ok, Carlos Beltran soaked in champaign looks. . . tasty.
Frank Probst @ 30
Let’s hope it’s a whole new chapter in the continuing saga, say, a two-para story on pg. A-18 in Tuesday’s WaPo that Susan Ralston got a visit from the FBI, at home….
Hey, hey Pach!
Way to go, Mets!
Eli @ 44
and the Virgin Mary would be…?
Glen Close.
kirk murphy @ 52
Umm… Margaret Dumont?
Pachacutec @ 53
Did he get the save?
Anyone think Gannon/Guckert could be mixed up in this?? Or too much to hope for.
Rove’s GOP nightmare comes true: Gays On Parade!
¡EGN! ¡!
Perhaps there’s an Inca-lizard gestating here.
{{{Kewalo}}}…I’ve missed seeing you here. Been busy?
OT–Lamont polls- I just went and checked out the polls at pollster.com. Statistically, there is no point in including polls that only have a single point, because there is no way to compare these data, over time, and each poll has a unique bias/audience. The only three polls that have multiple data points are- Rassmusen, Zogby Interactive, and Quinnipiac.
Percentages are Lieberman adv. over Lamont.
In the 4 R polls after primary 5% > 2% > 2% > 10%
In the 3 ZI polls after primary 10% > 4% > 2%
In the 2 Q polls after the primary 12% > 10%, but Q poll data 1st was random voters, 2nd likely voters. Hard to interpret these two points, thus.
Most of the alarm seems to have been created by the entry of the Zogby Poll (not the interactive one)- first entry, no data points to compare; and the Rassumsen poll change from 2% adv to 10% adv Lieberman.
Disclaimer- I am not a statistician. Wish Bobby G were here. But, I do look at data a lot in my job. At this point, I just don’t see any evidence, based on these data, that Ned is falling behind. And, he has clearly gained in name recognition. If anything, my own look at the polls says it’s 50/50 L/L at this point- though I wish Lamont had already moved ahead. As Jane has said, 4 weeks is a long time, in the current environment. And, the more people know about Lamont, the more they will like him. The more people know more about Lieberman, the less they will like him. I am feeling much more optimistic having looked more closely at the polling data, rather than just responding to the cries of alarm.
If anyone’s gonna know what’s going on with the “gay GOP mafia,” it’s gonna be Jeff Gannon/Guckert. I checked his blog for a scoop (so you don’t have to), and this is all I get?!?
________________
Gannon On Foleygate
In response to the many inquiries I’ve had about Mark Foley, please allow me to wag my finger at you and say:
“I did not have text with that Congressman, Mr. Foley…”
Posted by jeffgannon at 12:05 AM
________________
Well of course not Guckert, you’re over 16.
I’m laughing so hard tears are rolling down. wow. brillant
Balrog @ 48
I read that WaPo and immediately thought the Dems were gonna be blamed for infiltrating Shaw’s advance staff and getting the planes and containers noisy, but no, it was just (yet another) bad Cillizza segue….
Pachacutec @
46
Nyuk nyuk…Who’s there?
;>)
ReneND @ 56
We were thinking along the same lines…
darkblack @ 64
McCain and Warner and who’s that in the middle?
http://americablog.blogspot.co…..nared.html
~~~I’ve heard rumors. Unsubstantiated talk. No proof yet. But I’ve heard things. Just like I heard things about Mark Foley this past July. This time I’ve heard things about a relatively senior Republican member of the House, and also about someone on the Speaker’s own staff. Both rumors seem relevant to this story as it’s unfolding.
So here’s my dilemma. Denny Hastert says that if I don’t report the unsubstantiated allegations I’ve heard, I’m a criminal. But the thing is, I’m also a journalist, and a good human being. I don’t think it’s right to print unsubstantiated rumors I’ve heard, rumors that could make life quite difficult for this Republican congressman and this senior member of Hastert’s staff.~~~
Pachacutec @ 66
Just based on context, I’d guess Duncan.
bonkers @ 65
It would be fun to see a refresher on the whole jeff gannon fiasco.
After your visit to the Hellmouth, stop by Mercury Rising for a homemade personal pan pizza!
ReneND @ 69
Maybe the media would be a little more willing to talk about it now.
Phoenix Woman @ 70
Is it piping hot?
I didn’t understand a goddamn thing that was happening in that Buffy clip, never having seen the show, but it was certainly exciting to watch.
Balrog @
5
Balrog, i was late to this party.
Alright, who busted the margins? Kirk, was that you?
Pachacutec @ 53
ROTFLMAO
(although if Anne Bancroft could marry Mel Brooks, stranger biology has happened….)
Pachacutec @ 66
Huckleberry
;>)
TRex, I would have figured you for a Buffy fan.
TRex @ 73
Oh man, now you’ve done it! Nancy is goin’ to throw a hissy fit!
Doubletimin’ a Georgia widemouth jest ain’t done!
LindyH @ 75
err..uhhh…
one of my cats aides de catnip told her of the possible impropriety, but she did not inform me or her litter mates.
In addition to this sad lapse in judgement she peed on my bed during this week’s rainstorm, and that’s why…
I’m hoping for new legislation to prevent our beloved domestic companions from makinng messes in the House.
[is anyone distracted yet? thinking like this hurts my brain….]
ooooh, WaPo Editorial Board used the word STONEWALLING to describe the Ralston resignation and book-closing on the Government Reform Committee report….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00715.html
TRex @ 73
Bad, BAD therapod! Put the whole series (yes, even season 4!) on your Netflix queue immediately!
LindyH @
74
It’s OK. I think it’s because I’m not a New Yorker. I understand wanting to catch the ballgame very well.
Congratulations Mets.
ReneND @ 69
You know all these dots have got to be connected. If only we could get the whole story…a scandal for the ages!
Considering the classic neocon PR tactic is to project their own weaknesses onto their opponents, it’s telling how they’re talking about a “gay cabal” out to get the god-fearing Repubelickins. Seems the majority of the high level Bush Admin has questionable hetero credentials, not to mention a male prostitute, posing as as journalist, with dozens of documented visits to the White House “off-hours.” The projection may be the proof.
(NOTE: I’m not saying homosexuality is a weakness, it’s just what the neocons would consider a weakness politically.)
RBG @ 59
Hey RGB! Yeppers been busy. It may sound terrible but have been doing a happy dance about the scandal. I hope it doesn’t turn out that any kids were actually harmed. I feel guilty enough about feeling happy about it.
Plus I’m delighted that Ralston has resigned. I’ve been pissed about the Mariannas for months and would love to see some heads roll for that. So, yeah, busy week. {{{{RGB}}}}
kirk murphy- I have three words for you- equine cat brush?
Wasn’t there a story about how, at one time, Rove’s candidate was facing defeat by a highly-respected (children’s court??) judge with a long history of working to protect children from abuse. Rove’s solution? Start a whispering campaign that the judge was a pedophile. The judge, fearing for his family, withdrew from the race. Karma really is a bitch!
Kewalo @ 33,
Waves arms, yoo hoo! I have the same feeling.
What is so…I don’t even know how to describe it…creepy, maybe, is that the GOP keeps lying, blaming it on someone else (the media, Soros, liberals, the pages). And the people who call it “just a prank…” !
Go read Billmon.
http://billmon.org
I was just sitting with my finger poised over the ‘purchase’ button for season 1 of Buffy at the iTunes music store, but I’ve spent waaaaaay too much money on frivolous things already this month. I think I have soaked up all of my discretionary income already.
Still, it’s only $23.
Hmmmm.
Persiflage @ 87
Someone on here today coined the word KARMAgeddon. I love that. Maybe FDL should make and sell our own line of buttons.
TRex @ 89
That’s $23 that could go here…
http://www.actblue.com/page/blueamerica
Someone on here today coined the word KARMAgeddon.
GOD!! I wish I’d said that!
Who coined that one?
TRex @ 89
Do it. DO IT! If you don’t buy “Buffy”, the terrorists win!
TRex @ 92
Don’t know- saw it earlier tho.
ReneND @ 90
I toyed with “Pagenfreude”, but was pretty sure that wouldn’t be quite right…
ReneND @ 90
Think that one came from one of the WaPo Style section contests. Make a new word by adding or subtracting or changing a letter: “Karmageddon: End of the world, man, due to, like, a build up of bad vibes.”
:)
montag @ 96
I didn’t go read there, but someone must have picked it up.
Works for so many things with bushies.
ReneND @ 90
So good, and so true. I just love the idea that the Gods, or fate, or whatever said “Hey, Karl! We’ve got yer child-protectin’ pedophile right here! And this time he’s real”
Kewalo—I’ve been trying to work up an angle on Doc Hastings now that the Ethics Comm will be getting some media attention . McCranium’s come close but hasn’t hit the jackpot yet. Please drop me a note if you see anything that might be a chink in his armor.
I searched the comments. Couldn’t find anything recent. Mrs. K8 used karmageddon back in October of last year. (Dear Mrs. K8- hope you are well!!!)
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..mment-7994
Bedtime for me, gang. Fight the good fight til the morrow!
Margot @ 88
Thanks for the link I hadn’t seen it. Greenwald is another one that has written on this for the past couple of days. His contention is that it isn’t working. I hope he’s right. But it’s really a pleasure to see the RW desperate and whiney isn’t it?
I’ve thought to myself that this is karma for the torture bill. But whatever it is, I can’t help feeling just a tad smug.
Here’s the link to Greenwald, I highly recommend both Fri and Sat post.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
Pachacutec @ 101
Lightweight.
ROFLMAO! A gem of a read. First thing that made me chuckle all day. Cheers!
TRex @ 103
I didn’t say I was going to sleep.
Pach, delicious wrap-up of their current predicament.
Darth Cheney’s hitting the road for the elections! Yippeee! From tomorrow’s WaPo:
More than half of Cheney’s fundraisers in this two-year cycle have been behind closed doors. Even at a lunchtime speech to Wisconsin Republican donors that was open to reporters, gubernatorial candidate Rep. Mark Green did not stand on stage, ensuring no pictures of the two together on the news, and some other Republican candidates did not attend at all.
Every Democrat has got to tie their opponent to the freakshow called the Bush Admin.
RBG @ 99
I would be glad to. You do know that he is one of the signatories of the 1993 rep contract with America don’t you? He signed that he would abide by term limits. I haven’t been to McCranium in a couple of days, I’ll head on over and check it out.
who wants to go to the store for me?
**crickets**
bbiab
Pachacutec @ 105
Grumble.
You people in relationships with all your love and sex and snuggling under the warm, cozy covers. You think that makes you special? Huh? HUH??
Sigh.
Bitchez.
Kewalo @
108
Yeah, breaking the terms limits pledge is what first brought him to my attention. I’m not sure what it is, or where it is, but there’s something out there we can use to nail him.
I can only imagine how Bush’s self-righteous, homophobic base is taking the daily news that in addition to the reality a Congressional Republican child abuser was named to protect their children from child abusers, secret Republican homosexuals have been running many other significant functions of Congress for years and casually lying about it to the folks who voted them into office.
I wonder how the lying Republican homosexual Congressmen and staff are handling the daily broadcasts to their God fearing base about their previously hidden homosexuality .
A more important question, though, is who will be going to Hell for all of this?
Without doubt, the homosexuals, but that’s not news. They were headed in that direction anyway.
It must be the lying Republicans who deliberately protected a known child abuser for purely political reasons.
October is a particularly beautiful month, what with all the aspens turning so rapidly.
RBG @ 111
Well, I went over to McCranium and gave him the links to the contract. He may see something in it that would be useful.
Valley Girl @ 100
You must have one hella fast comment-search-machine, VG!
On the last thread, a few folks were discussing how CT voters can be so distracted, that they didn’t know what was going on. I think we’ve all seen this nationally for far too long. Last night’s Battlestar Galactica reminds me of the tragedy of voting without being fully informed and of course, being unwilling to face hard truth’s. At the end of last season, the survivors of the Colonies had a presidential election and a choice between a woman who was saying a hard truth and a lying sack of crap who promised folks a better life, immediately on a planet they had been passing. He promised them safety on the hidden world, an eventual end to their hardship and they went for it. In the end, the planet had less than hospitable living conditions and their enemies (the Cylons) found them anyway. Worse yet, the fleet that had been running was no longer in a position to protect the citizens on what became New Caprica. As a result, you had arbitrary arrests, torture, a resistance with suicide bombings and a lot more. Meanwhile, the President (Baltar) was such a sell out that he signed the death warrants demanded by the Cylons, to quell the insurrection. Maybe I’m looking for trouble, but the more I watch that series, the more I see current events. If you haven’t seen it, I highly recommend it. You won’t see the American Taliban watching this, especially given all the “adult themes” that are prevalent. My Step Son can’t handle it, as he can’t tell the Cylons from the Humans. Kind of like our CONgress.
The P Street Project, gay GOPers in hiding in DeeCee:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..r=homepage
TeddySanFran @ 116
I just can’t feel sorry for them. It’d be like me working for the Nazis and then being shocked that I couldn’t persuade them that Jews aren’t really so bad.
incontext @ 112
Why, blame the abused! That’s how they make sense of it. God sure does work in mysterious ways…
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..the-pages/
TRex @
92
me!
trex you can use it as you see fit! i would be honored.
TRex @ 89
Go for it, TRex, if you haven’t already. You and the Buffyverse really need to get acquainted.
I’m late to the thread, but I just have to say.. brilliant work. It’s funny because it has so much truth to it. Which is sad. But i digress. The post is brilliant.
Hi Teddy & VG…. another week on the road… hard keeping up on all the news….. amazing week
katymine @ 123
What have you been up to? Hiya!!!
TRex,
You dangerous bastard. You’ve been reading Aleister Crowley’s book on how to raise the demons, haven’t you? You’ve done your homework, and you can climb into their heads. My hat’s off to you, this ranks up there with the “Bush: Karl? Rove: Yes, my lord?” piece. Just remember, my gifted friend, to choose your enemies wisely, because in understanding them you must empathize and start to become them. Humor is the protective layer, so you’re still safe, but I appreciate how close to the Wittgensteinian winds of truth you sailed in this post. Bravo, brava.
Been in San Diego at a client conference… only able to catch what has been going on late at night before crashing…. Wonderful place on Mission Bay… it sure was beautiful!
MarcLord @ 125
Look closely, sir. This brilliant post was the work of the enigmatic Pachacutec.
#13 asks:
> But what is the october surprise?
All signs point to an attack on North Korea. Preferably one which does not lead to too many body bags coming home before November 8.
Gorky Pulviczek @ 128
One would be too many.
You know, Jane tried to warn me off the online shopping thing, but would I listen? Oh, nooooo.
I have become obsessed with this sweater. I just keep staring at it. I’m like, “Hmmmmm. Groceries? Sweater? What’s it going to be?”
I called Banana Republic and told them they need to make it so people can have wish lists. They patted me on the head and said they’d look into it.
TRex, ya better keep an eye out for Jane. You know how she feels.
TRex @ 130
Nice looking sweater Trex but, besides the exorbitant price, it’s got to be dry-cleaned which is more expense. Resist Trex, resist!
Suzanne @ 131
I think she likes the taser a little too much, too.
TRex- I just bought a new 100% cashmere heather gray men’s V-neck sweater (tiny flaws) for $6.29 at VV. I know that’s not your style, but at that price, you could sleep in it.
MarcLord @
125
I thought we weren’t supposed to talk about Magick, Liber ABA, Book 4 here without clearing it first with Kos.
The problem with Joe is that there isn’t a spoon long enough to let you safely sup with the devil. He will(hopefully)get what he deserves. I sometimes spend the odd moment considering the appropriate eternal punishment for these sick bastards. Who is your favorite rightie and what would be the right punishment for them to spend eternity with?
We just went from cybersex to real sex. The scoop’s up at http://www.latimes.com
Frank Probst @ 137
I had a gut feeling that this was going to come out….. wow….. this story now has a new set of legs!
Frank Probst @ 137
“Awwwwwwwww, shit”
(Chuck D.)
TRex @ 127
Ha! Enigmatic indeed. Crowley and I will be more circumspect.
katymine @
138
And they’re in the air!
Damn. I just read the article. This poor kid’s going to be crucified.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..-headlines
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At least he was 21 when they finally did “it”.
Frank Probst @ 142
Can you offer any thoughts as to why he agreed to talk to the Times?
My wife and I just returned from a party held for the volunteers in our local Borough elections which swept a group of five progressives into the mayor’s office, two assembly seats and two school board seats last Tuesday. I enlisted more volunteers for Diane Benson in her run against Don Young for our sole seat in Congress. I listened to dozens of anecdotes about how our ground game people had many surprising encounters when knocking on the doors of conservative and libertarian voters.
The Bushista junta lies are not working nearly as well as they were a year ago. The only people left worshipping at the House of W are the Jonestown wannabes and “we gotta support W ’cause he’s gonna bring about the Rapture” nutcases. More important, looking at the polling numbers from precinct to precinct, the so-called value super voters didn’t show up at the polls. And the progressives showed up in very meaningful numbers for a local October election
Ed*ard Teller @ 146
That is good news.
“Jonestown wannabes”?! I’ve never heard anyone say that, but is says sooooo much.
Hi Suzanne! Hi ET! Now we just need Coriolanus to check in.
VG, reading the Times article, it appears they contacted several pages who gave the Times his name.
From their article:
ET that was the feeling I was getting during my short trip through your home state… When you think that Kyl & Pederson are in a neck and neck race here in AZ….
The pages show quite a bit naivety with this comment, but I guess they lacked the perspective that would allow them to appreciate the moral depravity of the GOP
Valley Girl @ 145
My guess? He really can’t stonewall. It sounds like the LAT heard about him from more than one person, which means the FBI can’t be all that far behind. I think he wants to get his version of events out there before the mudslinging starts. Unfortunately, the article gives quite a bit of detail about the guy, probably enough to figure out who he is.
Suzanne @ 144
Clearly groomed for sexual contact shortly after leaving the page program, somewhere his parents thought he would be safe. Foley is scum. Those who knew and allowed him to continue are scum.
TRex @ 147
It is one of those slap the forehead,Duh, why didn’t I think of that things. It is sort of explict in terms of the phrase, drinking the Kool-aid.
Okay- so to Suzanne, I was going to say- but that still doesn’t explain why he agreed to speak to the LATimes. But, to Frank P.- just having read your comment- what you say makes a lot of sense as to him wanting get his version out there. I hope the guy doesn’t get crucified- he sounds sweet and honest, tho perhaps naive.
Teddy, I’m not excusing it at all. I think there is worse to come.
The Republican spin will be that he didn’t actually have *sex* with any of the pages until they were of age, so it’s all totally okay, move along, nothing to see here.
Sometimes it seems like everybody in the whole entire world is having sex but me.
Valley Girl @ 155
He just sounds young to me, not really naive. But I think the right wing is going to turn him into the whore of Babylon by Monday morning.
TRex @ 158
I know that feeling all too well…
TRex, you are not alone. Egad, it’s Saturday night and I’m at the computer, looking up recipes.
Suzanne @ 161
At least you’re doing something useful. I’m lusting for cashmere.
Suzanne @ 156
I didn’t think you were excusing, I was agreeing with and expanding upon your remarks….
As to why he spoke to the LAT, probably because they told him they had his story from others and did he want to talk. Also, being gay, he may feel as betrayed by Foley’s “I’m gay” excuse as the rest of us. Finally, he may have a sense of relief to finally get his secret out, although as others have pointed out, his name probably won’t be a secret for long….
And, yes, there’s much worse to come. Pity the children, and the adults they’ve become. By my calculation, the LAT Page is about 27 or so, and his Page-hood must have been shortly after Foley’s becoming a Congressman, since he was 21 when the “liaison” occurred in 2000.
And never a callback, the cad!
No Suzanne, what I think Teddy was referring to is that sexual predators “groom” their victims, it is a classic methodology. Check some posts over at Taylor Marsh, she has addressed this at lenghth. The kids may have been gay or they may have just been vulnerable to abuse.
TRex @ 162
Cashmeral sex is an empty experience.
Valley Girl @ 155
Of course he will be crucified. I just hope he did this with his eyes open because Drudge et al. will be sure to trumpet it far and wide to prove that Foley isn’t a pedophile. While of course ignoring the grooming aspect of it.
katymine @
150
The Assembly district candidate for whom my wife and I volunteered is named Michelle Church. She is very progressive and worked her butt off walking from house to house. She is affable, but likes to get to the point when talking issues. The funniest development her campaign workers saw was among some of the more hypnotized of the Christofascist zealots here. When she or a volunteer knocked on one of those doors in her CHURCH shirt, the reactions were hilarious. “I already go,” “a NEW church?,” “anyone who named themselves Church has my vote!” Additionally, Michelle, is very attractive, wears glasses and looks like a Sunday school teacher. We figure the cognitive dissonance among intellectually challenged fungelicals was worth a good 5% to 7% of the 60% she took in a three-way race.
TRex @ 162
Baby, the sweater’s $128 and only 20% cashmere, with unfinished cuffs. Lust after hemmed 100%, if lust you must.
VG, I am familiar with grooming. I spent 6 years working the dark side, Crimes Against Persons – Juvenile Unit at my department.
TeddySanFran @ 168
Hush. You’re messing with my illusion. Besides, I already called my mom and said, “I need you to talk to Santa Claus about something for me…”
merino wool’s the scratchy kind, i’m just saying’
Ron Russell @ 115
Hmm. I haven’t watched Battlestar but you’re the second person I’ve read about today who thinks it reflects what’s going on here, now.
Maybe that’s why Jesus spoke in parables…
Trex–baby alpaca
TRex @ 158
It only seems that way. You are far from alone. Its been so long for me that mine has cobwebs. Too old for one night stands and unwilling to enter a relationship lightly.
TRex @ 158
tap… tap… tap… Na sweetie… my SO on the road with MNF… Denver this week… when he is home… I am one the road….. The real story when both of us are road warriors
TeddySanFran @ 171
Yeah, it certainly is. No good for wearing next to the skin – gotta have something under it.
Frank- point taken about being “young” vs “naive” in your distinction. But, in my thoughts, naive = young, in that he was flattered by the attention. [Foley’s flirtations made the young man feel important at a time when he was struggling with his emerging sexuality. “It seemed cool that he was taking an interest,” he said. “I knew he was gay, and he was attracted to me.”] But/and, whatever it was that this young man responded to, it seems clear to me that he was not “special”- as in, he was one of many targeted by Foley- but for whatever reason Foley got to home base with him.
This is a reposting from my Greatest Hits collection. Typing it out again would be redundant, and I hate redundancy; and also take a lot of work, and I’m lazy.*
* And, if I can find it, I am going to repost my epic, original THEY ARE NOT GENUISES post – but I can’t find it yet (if Mods have super search capabilities, then some help would be appreciated as it is at least a year old: just search “Maslow” and/or “myth” and you’ll find.
And remember – METS RULE: YANKEES SUCK. :-)
TRex, if you are gonna do cashmere, make it the good stuff. Nothing worse than scratchy, itchy, gotta wear something under it stuff. Unless, of course, that is the intended effect, which is a whole nutter ball o wax.
Suzanne @
169
I worked in public safety, law enforcement and corrections from 1976 to 1993. In 1984 I took a course in sexual assault issues. I learned about grooming and other things. In 1986, when I began working in corrections, I was better trained to watch sexual predators than most of the rest of the staff. When I became a supervisor in that field, I sought better training for my employees re dealing with sexual predators in our “care.” I felt strongly and still do, that the levels of control and violence in sex crimes have very little to do with the sex or sexual orientation of either perp or victim, and a lot to do with imbalance of power between the two. So few professionals still get this, let alone the public at large. I’ve had to work a lot with the denial on the part of the perp, the guilt on the part of the victim, and the enabling by the ignorant relatives, onlookers and officers of the court.
This comment might not be meaningful to many here, but trust me. People who have been trained to spot the MO of sexual predators who have been watching the news this past ten days see that there will be more shoes dropping.
I’ll wager coach Denny’s sweat smells more scared than usual.
Suzanne @ 179
I have a long sleeved gray t-shirt that would be the very thing. I like the feeling of wool. I can’t have it right on my skin, but nothing will keep you warmer on a wet, blustery day. Wool will still insulate against the cold even when it’s wet.
There is a moor-tramping saxon scotsman in me that likes the feel of wool. Och!!
One day I will have a long black wool coat like Agent Mulder.
Suzanne @ 169
Sorry, I didn’t mean to dismiss your earlier comment, if that is what you thought I did- I had been looking for an explanation as to why the kid talked to the LATimes. Thankfully, I haven’t had experience with sexual predators, at least not to my knowledge. However, this whole discussion of “grooming” has been an eye-opener for me. Seems to me that predators of all sorts “groom” their victims- including the con guys who hit on the elderly in schemes to get their money in various ways. Win trust, go in for the “kill”- MO.
ET, you know it. I’ve been looking to see if there is a Federal mandatory reporting law but have been unable to locate one.
I always thought “grooming” was about *removing* vermin…
So, if this former page was 21 in the fall of 2000, when he had his encounter with Foley, that would probably put him as a page somewhere between 1995 and 1997, shortly after Foley was first elected, yes? He didn’t waste any time in using his position to start hunting for victims.
VG, yes to a certain extent, a lot of offenders groom their victim. However, just as many are crimes of opportunity. I didn’t take your earlier comment that way at all, VG, was just adding in my experience – which, as many of you know, is that of both law enforcement and as the mother of a child who was molested.
Ed*ard Teller @ 180
Do you have any idea why this is so. Even for someone like me whose expertise comes from watching Law and Order:SVU realizes that it is power not sex that motivates these pervs.
The Rvd. @ 185
Foley had probably been doing same before, but in some other venue. I doubt that Foley suddenly awakened to his MO, tho having a seat in the House gave him wider scope.
VG – I love your smart shopping eye for cashmere and TSF for quality workmanship.
Merino isn’t bad and doesn’t itch though all good sweaters require dry cleaning or dryel.
I owned a couple of vintage clothing stores for over a decade and should have purchased a dry cleaning business considering what I spent on a monthly basis.
Lust, lust for cashmere sheets!
Valley Girl @ 188
Foley had probably been doing same before, but in some other venue. I doubt that Foley suddenly awakened to his MO, tho having a seat in the House gave him wider scope.
Very true. I wonder if anyone’s thought to see if the Florida legislature has any sort of intern program, and if anything funny happened while he was there.
Suzanne @
183
Me too, last week. I don’t think there is one. Otherwise the story would have progressed – especially from ABC’s perspective – quite differently. But notice that ABC and CREW have been very careful to keep logs, recordings and chain of custody documents as they’ve handled this sensitive material. We have such mandatory reporting laws in Alaska. Additionally, for about 20 years, we’ve had a law which defines 16 as the age of consent except in cases where the perp is in a “position of authority” over the victim.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 189
Ohmygawd – there are cashmere sheets?
I think that Foley was motivated by sex too. After all, he hit on *ilson, in a chance encounter in the House cloakroom.
Looks to me, ET, that some smart thinking progressive candidate up against any of these enablers should campaign on the promise of a Federal mandatory reporting law, which includes those in a position of authority over minors.
Ed*ard Teller @ 191
Excellent – I’d like to see that go nationwide.
Valley Girl @ 188
.. and also gave him a “supervisor,” as Congressman Reynolds calls the Speaker, with a vested interest in him keeping his job, which exposing him as a predator might jeopardize. Corrupt culture, corrupt values, the corrupt thrive.
CA (which is where my experience is) has an extensive mandatory reporting law, including clergy, medical, teachers, even law enforcement. Yes, that’s right, the local cop can do state prison time for failing to report suspected abuse.
Suzanne @ 197
Texas is the same way.
The Rvd. @ 190
Very true. I wonder if anyone’s thought to see if the Florida legislature has any sort of intern program, and if anything funny happened while he was there.
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Hell, let’s get a police to talk to the busboys at the “family restaurant” Foley started when he was 20.
Valley Girl @ 193
Well, from what I understand, *ilson’s sexual magnetism is so earth-shattering and undeniable that I would hardly consider that encounter to be a fair indicator. From what I understand men follow *ilson around weeping for just a glance in their direction…
Ed*ard Teller @ 135
Standard procedure, no?
;>)
Suzanne @ 194
Perhaps a concept for those who harbor less attractive policies to get onside with, and quickly.
Suzanne @ 192
I found some on the internet a couple of years ago. Talk about peel me a grape!
TSF- yes, you are certainly correct about Foley having a “supervisor”- Hastert (Hastert and co. perhaps) who had a vested interest in Foley keeping his job. And, doubtless, a good way for the supervisors to control Foley’s votes. Supervisor/s had a certain sort of power, too.
Has anyone here ever slept on linen sheets? I’ve always wondered how that would be. I mean, we call our cotton sheets “linens” for a reason, right?
I want linen everything.
TRex @ 204
Be prepared to find a husband who likes to iron.
I iron. I find it very meditative.
The whole “supervisor” construct Reynolds keeps pushing is SO offensive in a democratic republic. I hope his constituents go into the voting booth next month and yell, “I’m your supervisor, beeyatch!”
TRex @ 200
TRex- *ilson makes me swoon too, in a totally heterosexual way of course, because he has a fine mind and a huge heart.
What they are trying to muddle is the fact that Foley was a supervisor of the pages. Every congresscritter is a supervisor of the pages. The pages are in a subservient position, who’s primary job is to please.
from #67
“I’ve heard rumors. Unsubstantiated talk. No proof yet. But I’ve heard things.”
On Matthews I heard some talk about a hetero problem in the works. (Don’t remember who, transcript not up)
From whom, talking bunnies?
It would be nice to at least have some description of the veracity of the sources from “John in DC” and whoever it was on Matthews.
Did anyone else see this on the CMS?
TeddySanFran @ 207
“I’m gonna need you to go ahead and stop molesting pages. That’d be great. Thanks.”
The pages are in a subservient position, who’s primary job is to please.
*squick!*
Sorry, TRex.
Really, TRex, that did not come out as I intended.
Suzanne, you’re cute as hell when you’re blushing.
On a accept no
substitutesresponsibility note, ex-congresscritter cunningham bitches about his fate.http://www.signonsandiego.com/…..etter.html
(tapping monitor) did this thing go George Jetson two way and nobody told me?
H.D. @ 187
could be both in this case
I would choose sex over power any day.
This one winter my old roommate and I got our heat cut off. (Just for not paying the bill!! The NERVE!) I was living with this uptight neurotic Italian guy, my brother’s band’s lead singer. I knew exactly what sort of vulgar, rude, hilarious things to say to him to make him blush bright red.
He’s start bitching about how cold it was and I would start to describe something in graphic detail or remind him of something totally embarrassing that he’d done and he would turn pink and I would say, “It’s warmer in here now, innit, Mike?”
Hell, I would choose *pizza* over power any day…
Eli @ 219
That depends on if you mean power like “power bill”. In that case, I’ll take power. This computer doesn’t run on wishes and starlight.
TRex @ 222
I’d probably have to think about that one a little bit.
g’nite all, can’t wait to see what magic tomorrow brings!
Suzanne @ 209
Which is exactly why this snip is so chilling from the LAT story:
He not only groomed him, he targeted him, used his position to find and use the personal contact details.
Shez @ 225
Please let it come out that he had the FBI find the kid for him.
Like when DeLay had the DHS trying to round up those wayward state reps who were denying him a quorum for his gerrymandering.
I’d probably have to think about that one a little bit.
Well, how good is the sex we’re talking about? I can think of one ex boyfriend who I would be perfectly happy to hang out in a dark apartment with.
TRex @ 227
Yeah, I think there’s a… threshold.
Shez, I would certainly describe Foley as in a position of authority over pages if I were writing the crime report. He had access to everything he needed to find potential victims and had the power of his position to use to flatter, cajole, and entice the actions he desired.
TRex @ 227
Honey, we ALL have one in our past that we would be perfectly happy to hang out in a dark apartment.
Sigh.
Yeah, I think there’s a… threshold.
There are so many ways that sex can go horribly awry. There’s bad breath sex, always a horror. There’s the sex the other person just isn’t into, which makes you feel like total shite. Then there’s the sex you’re not really into. It seemed like a good idea when the guy was standing up, but then…
There’s too-drunk sex, not-drunk-enough sex, hangover sex, and “Okay, if it’ll make you LEAVE ME ALONE” sex. Yeah, altogether a fairly dodgy enterprise, if you’re not careful.
Every time I get all dressed up to go out, these things flash through my mind and I find myself deciding that it might just be safer to stay on the couch.
Suzanne @
217
You’re still blushing.
Ed*ard Teller @ 232
shhhhh! Where’s the fan, dayamit! It’s a hot flash I tell ya, a hot flash, yeah, that’s it, a hot flash.
Evening friends! help me out here. You folks are talking like there are dozens and dozens of closeted gays on capitol hill and that everyone knows it and covers it up. Is this true or rumour? I read something disturbing today about the atty general of Flordia attending sex parties with Foley and having a conflict of interest with an ongoing and yearlong justice department and FBI investigation of foley in Florida. The item also talked as if it were common knowledge that Hestert is covering and has dabbled as well. Is any of this true?
Oh and TRex… I’m a linen nut and yes, it is wonderful to sleep on. It’s very cool on hot nights and toasty on cold ones. There are different quality linens though and if you want the best for cheap, go to a fabric store, buy the best and sew your own.
spiderpaws, NYTimes has this up re the Foley case and gays in DC, entitled Foley Case Upsets Gay Republicans’ Tough Balance.
Back to serious before I head outta here…..
Re my post @ #146, I haven’t seen any entries here or at any of the other major p-blogs on other “first Tuesday in October” local elections. Did I miss it, or were our little elections in southcentral Alaska the only ones happening last week?
It really is too late for innocence, isn’t it?
well yes, Suzanne I did see that but my question is: are the republicans who allegedly covered up (Hestert, Biehnor, Reynolds) gay, is Karl Rove gay, and what about this Florida Attorney general that Jeb Bush supposedly knew about but has kept hidden so it wouldn’t upset the evangelicals.
spiderpaws, I wish I could tell you how many of the bad guys are mixed up in this scandal. I have been wondering for a while if there was a world of closeted, twisted republican pervs on capitol hill. Now it seems that I may have been right and not just paranoid.
darkblack…too quaint
spider, I don’t know. My concern is that this will morph into a “gay” issue instead of who know when. I haven’t heard anything about the Florida AG.
ET, I’ve not heard anything about any other election other than yours.
A friend sent me an offline IM yesterday, about sums up the Rethugs:
That’s it for me. Nite all.
TRex @
239
dinodog – this is one helluva onion. layers and layers in DC. too bad Gore Vidal isn’t here for us now. But – WAIT! Vidal may be staying up all night writing DC II, or something…
wearing a cashmere sweater by a fireplace, no doubt.
spiderpaws @ 240
‘ Now you’ve gone and done it ‘
;>)
A rare moment of sentiment, spiderpaws.
:)
‘Nite Suze…TRex, but didn’t all these republican gays vote for the one man/one woman marriage thing? They’re all traitors…shocking not standing up for your own
darkblack…LOL Joe looks better there than I’ve ever seen him, who’s the other brat?
spiderpaws @ 246
My thoughts exactly. Which means they deserve whatever they get.
TRex: don’t be intimidated by the sewing part…you are only turning a small hem all the way around…I bought my linen at a sale at Briitex in SF and have the most wonderful linen sheets that would have cost hundreds otherwise.
An graphic illustration of how idiotic and unprofessional our leaders are:– John Bolton apparently just provoked a global diplomatic crisis today when, at the Security Council, he went out of his way to intentionally and unecessarily insult China, which prompted China to make an equally idiotic comment, which in turn, prompted the North Koreans to threaten to explode a nuke on China’s doorstep. Good going John!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/…..index.html
If we don’t “drain the swamp” in November, ka-boom will surely follow soon after….
spiderpaws @ 247
Younger Joe.
;>)
spiderpaws @
249
It’s putting in the elastic for the fitted sheet that unnerves me. I have a really good seamstress just around the block, though. I could take it to her and say, “Make me sheets, please.”
Probably cost about 40 bucks.
Blub @
250
Bolton is one of my betes noir. I just want to take him and Judy Miller and bang their heads together like coconuts.
Trex: I have two flat sheets! It’s not against the law you know…it still works especially when you tuck them under with a blanket…you can probably get the linen for under 60 dollars and if you do have them sewn it will still be only 100. as opposed to 400. plus get enough for a couple of cases…sweet putting your head down on classy linen and it is tough stuff too, lasts forever provided you don’t eat in bed. (like I do)
It’s Bolton’s hair that bothers me…imagine wearing that hairdo.. What does that say about his brain?
NO EATING IN THE BED!! NOOOOOO!!
And no smoking in the bedroom. My sleep area is very important to me. It is for sleeping, snuggling, and sex only. I have the rest of the house to eat in.
Whew, sorry. Pet peeve.
Okay, I am going to have a little toast and then wander off to bed. In that order.
Good night!
Goodnight! (comforting to talk sheets when everything else is so wrong)
Frankly I can’t see any difference between sex and food in bed….
TRex @ 253
You don’t seriously expect me to go to sleep with such a… um.. sordid… mental image in mind do you? And oh.. that mustache… ugh.
Oh.. may be a different John Bolton, but one can hope that’s a self portrait..
http://www.johnbolton.com/bolt…..res02.html
Bolton reminds me of a seventies kinda guy: wrong attitude, wrong hair, bad ’stash, bad glasses, a bull in the china shop (oooh)
blub: no, that’s him! without his stuff on
One has to wonder what the misadmin even has to gain from trying to provoke Kim Jong Il into doing something stupid, ahead of the midterm elections. Likely case:– a lot of guys in suits yell at each other at the UN for the next month or so, more than usual, graphically illustrating for everybody how inane our policy on North Korea in particular and non-proliferation in general is… no sinister-looking Muslims to pick on, either way. No believable imminent threat to any American skyscrapers… Worst case:– Nth Korea explodes a nuke on their border site, as promised, irradiating part of China. Hu responds with some shock-an’-awe regime change of his own. Pyongyang is a smoking chasm. In any case, what could the US conceivably do? What possible show of force can the rethugs come up with? We have no military capability left to spare, no ability to interfere in a region where everybody else has a bigger army than we do, and, oh, they all have nukes. Nothin’ to do there. And nothing that’s remotely even close to the fearful heart of the Middle American voter. I’m confused.
I`d just like to thank all you folks for the real education & eye opening I have undergone here this evening/morning
Man, have I been blind to things around me for so long; never too late to learn (AARP member that I am…)
Thanks again folks
makes my time spent here reading the threads REALLY REALLY worth it & I realize how “risky” it might be for some of you given the subject matter
This is such a cool place…
“Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day,” – Thomas Jefferson
Blub >”…In any case, what could the US conceivably do? What possible show of force can the rethugs come up with? We have no military capability left to spare, no ability to interfere…”
Think about it for a few moments; does the phrase tactical nuke mean anything to you ?
It could all go down hill (a “downward spiral into oblivion” to quote a famous phrase from back when…) in such a hurry and for sooooo many
Scary indeed
“…Churches have given us great treasures. Whether that pays for the harm they have done is another matter.” – Daniel C. Dennett
spiderpaws @
258
i guess that depends on what you eat …………….
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meine geliebter likes to eat crunchy food in bed. i’m ok with that but it always puzzles me since she’s way neater than me in every other aspect.
Morning everyone.
Hastert’s long-shot Dem opponent suddenly has media spotlight
Nice puff piece in the Chicago Sun Times, unfortunately no poll numbers.
PACH, GREAT POST.
Margot @
172
Margot, you’ve got to catch this show. I wasn’t a really regular viewer, but after the first episode this year I’m not going to miss one. It effectively turns the whole “War on Terra” thing completely upside down. Don’t miss it.
A lot more detail about Hastert’s office, than I have read about before.
Tables Turned on Hastert’s Go-To Team
“The speaker’s designated problem-solvers find themselves in a bad spot in the Foley scandal.”
By Noam N. Levey, Times Staff Writer
October 8, 2006
TRex,if you find the fabric,I’ll sew for you for free.I have a new machine that needs breaking in.Email me if you’re interested…
Unless you can find super wide fabric,your sheets will end up with seams in them.But for linen,it would be worth it I think.
Jane Hamsher @
17
Agreed, Jane. Haven’t read the whole thread yet (I plan to over coffee later), so don’t know if anyone’s referenced the Angel ep where the dead CEO of Wolfram & Hart takes Angel on an elevator ride down to hell? When they finally finish the endless descent, the elevator doors open on the same street they left from. Hell is here…especially if Dems don’t pick up enough seats next month.