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		<title>By: falcone1204</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-327570</link>
		<dc:creator>falcone1204</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 05:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Only 8 hours ago, I wrote a few posts above here that it was surely the pages themselves who had released the e-mails.  I used deduction, saying the only alternatives were that the Republican pages had gathered them and given them to Democrats, or that the GOP leadership had investigated and then refused to do something despite knowing the true depth of the situation, and then a horrified renegade staffer leaked the e-mails/IMs.  I said both were inconceivable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, naturally, the full depravity of the GOP makes me swallow my words almost immediately.  I still think the Republican pages are the most likely candidates for the leak, but sure enough, we now know that Palmer did investigate repeated instances of inappropriate contact with the pages by Foley.  Despite that, they couldn’t bring themselves to do anything, nor even try to ease him out.  Reynolds still convinced him to run.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This tops quire a lot for me.  Even with the war, where I think they’re amazingly wrong-headed, I still think that many of the calculations are so abstract that if you really though we could ‘win’, it could be a moral position to think we should continue.  But this is so utterly concrete.  They just let it go on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 8 hours ago, I wrote a few posts above here that it was surely the pages themselves who had released the e-mails.  I used deduction, saying the only alternatives were that the Republican pages had gathered them and given them to Democrats, or that the GOP leadership had investigated and then refused to do something despite knowing the true depth of the situation, and then a horrified renegade staffer leaked the e-mails/IMs.  I said both were inconceivable.</p>
<p>Well, naturally, the full depravity of the GOP makes me swallow my words almost immediately.  I still think the Republican pages are the most likely candidates for the leak, but sure enough, we now know that Palmer did investigate repeated instances of inappropriate contact with the pages by Foley.  Despite that, they couldn’t bring themselves to do anything, nor even try to ease him out.  Reynolds still convinced him to run.  </p>
<p>This tops quire a lot for me.  Even with the war, where I think they’re amazingly wrong-headed, I still think that many of the calculations are so abstract that if you really though we could ‘win’, it could be a moral position to think we should continue.  But this is so utterly concrete.  They just let it go on.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-327378</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and on a side note:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe these commemorative Republican Butt Plugs would work better if stuck in their mouths. Maybe it would stop all their lying.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and on a side note:</p>
<p>Maybe these commemorative Republican Butt Plugs would work better if stuck in their mouths. Maybe it would stop all their lying.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-327360</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 01:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fleshbot has honored our Glorious Leader with the George Bush Butt Plug.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh should also be honored with Butt Plugs named after them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, of course, once they all receive their gift in the mail, they should immediately insert each of their Butt Plugs, so as to keep their brains from leaking out anymore than they already have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These commemorative Republican Butt Plugs might just put an end to all those Republican Washington leaks, especially with so many Republicans in Washington having their heads up their Butts…and leaking their brains out. Butt Plugs for all the Republicans. There’s the answer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fleshbot has honored our Glorious Leader with the George Bush Butt Plug.</p>
<p>I believe Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh should also be honored with Butt Plugs named after them.</p>
<p>And, of course, once they all receive their gift in the mail, they should immediately insert each of their Butt Plugs, so as to keep their brains from leaking out anymore than they already have.</p>
<p>These commemorative Republican Butt Plugs might just put an end to all those Republican Washington leaks, especially with so many Republicans in Washington having their heads up their Butts…and leaking their brains out. Butt Plugs for all the Republicans. There’s the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Suspect Device: The Blog &#187; A little light reading for the can, assuming you have wi-fi in the can.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suspect Device: The Blog &#187; A little light reading for the can, assuming you have wi-fi in the can.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Again: Don’t let them get away with this. The whole thing is making Glenn Greenwald a little giddy: The Foley scandal is so perfectly tailored — one could even say artistically designed — to expose every character flaw of this country’s Republican leaders (and their followers), and it has evolved so flawlessly (like the most brilliantly coordinated symphony), that one is almost inclined to believe that it was divinely inspired. It is difficult to believe that human beings (let alone Democrats) could create something so perfect (as Billmon wrote in comments here the other day, the relentless efficiency of this scandal is proof positive that Democrats had nothing to do with it). […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Again: Don’t let them get away with this. The whole thing is making Glenn Greenwald a little giddy: The Foley scandal is so perfectly tailored — one could even say artistically designed — to expose every character flaw of this country’s Republican leaders (and their followers), and it has evolved so flawlessly (like the most brilliantly coordinated symphony), that one is almost inclined to believe that it was divinely inspired. It is difficult to believe that human beings (let alone Democrats) could create something so perfect (as Billmon wrote in comments here the other day, the relentless efficiency of this scandal is proof positive that Democrats had nothing to do with it). […]</p>
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		<title>By: NJ Osprey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-327064</link>
		<dc:creator>NJ Osprey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now that the FBI is involved in the investigation, failure to accurately recount what happened to the warnings about Foley would be indictable. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just ask Scooter Libby.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the FBI is involved in the investigation, failure to accurately recount what happened to the warnings about Foley would be indictable. </p>
<p>Just ask Scooter Libby.</p>
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		<title>By: falcone1204</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-327060</link>
		<dc:creator>falcone1204</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s fun to speculate that a high-ranking Republican could be the source of the e-mails, but I think it’s pretty clear that it’s the Republican pages themselves that packaged this for ABC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To believe anything else, you’d have to believe either:&lt;br /&gt;
1) that a bunch of Republican pages handed off these deeply troubling e-mails/IMs to Democrats; or&lt;br /&gt;
2) that Shimkus or Hastert DID conduct an investigation, found the more sexual e-mails, and did nothing, but a staffer didn’t like the outcome, and leaked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither of those makes much sense.  I think it’s pretty clear that it was the pages themselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s fun to speculate that a high-ranking Republican could be the source of the e-mails, but I think it’s pretty clear that it’s the Republican pages themselves that packaged this for ABC.</p>
<p>To believe anything else, you’d have to believe either:<br />
1) that a bunch of Republican pages handed off these deeply troubling e-mails/IMs to Democrats; or<br />
2) that Shimkus or Hastert DID conduct an investigation, found the more sexual e-mails, and did nothing, but a staffer didn’t like the outcome, and leaked.</p>
<p>Neither of those makes much sense.  I think it’s pretty clear that it was the pages themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Bargain Countertenor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-326980</link>
		<dc:creator>Bargain Countertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-326771&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 142 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I said the last time the Republicans listened to Gingrich counsel on moral outrage in 1998 they lost seats…..they thought that the Lewinksy outrage was a good issue, but they lost seats nonetheless.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So the point is, the party that listened to Gingrich in 1998 and lost seats is now going to listen to him again in 2006. He is making a point of “moral outrage” and attacking the Democrats…which he thinks is a winner of a point but is likely a loser.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the confusion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Need more cough-syrup.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;’sall right, GSD.  I was just trying to clarify some background — I’m reading Lindorff and Olshansky’s book right now and just finished the section that went over the abortive impeachment of Clinton.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if there was ever a presnit that &lt;b&gt;needs&lt;/b&gt; impeaching, it’s Dubya.  No way he gets convicted in Senate, but his successors of every political stripe need to understand that the Shrub crossed way over a bright line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BC&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-326771"><em>GSD @ 142 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
I said the last time the Republicans listened to Gingrich counsel on moral outrage in 1998 they lost seats…..they thought that the Lewinksy outrage was a good issue, but they lost seats nonetheless.</p>
<p>So the point is, the party that listened to Gingrich in 1998 and lost seats is now going to listen to him again in 2006. He is making a point of “moral outrage” and attacking the Democrats…which he thinks is a winner of a point but is likely a loser.</p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
<p>Need more cough-syrup.</p>
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<p>’sall right, GSD.  I was just trying to clarify some background — I’m reading Lindorff and Olshansky’s book right now and just finished the section that went over the abortive impeachment of Clinton.</p>
<p>But if there was ever a presnit that <b>needs</b> impeaching, it’s Dubya.  No way he gets convicted in Senate, but his successors of every political stripe need to understand that the Shrub crossed way over a bright line.</p>
<p>BC</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-326944</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh Christie, keep it up. Those of us in Georgia who have a keener memory for Newt than perhaps the rest of the world have been shuddering every time his puss comes on T.V. [which is way, way too often these days]. He is the king of sleaze, even more than is generally known. And he’s also a total prostitute, saying anything necessary to get what he wants or please whomever he’s trying to please.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love your research. It brings back painful memories, but ones that need to stay front and center. He almost lost here at his peak, but squeaked by, only to quit in disgrace in short order. So, any time you have nothing to write about, write about Newt. He’s as dangerous a character as the American Enterprise Institute ever spawned [rivaling Ledeen and Bolton]…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Christie, keep it up. Those of us in Georgia who have a keener memory for Newt than perhaps the rest of the world have been shuddering every time his puss comes on T.V. [which is way, way too often these days]. He is the king of sleaze, even more than is generally known. And he’s also a total prostitute, saying anything necessary to get what he wants or please whomever he’s trying to please.</p>
<p>I love your research. It brings back painful memories, but ones that need to stay front and center. He almost lost here at his peak, but squeaked by, only to quit in disgrace in short order. So, any time you have nothing to write about, write about Newt. He’s as dangerous a character as the American Enterprise Institute ever spawned [rivaling Ledeen and Bolton]…</p>
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		<title>By: Yabadabado</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-326900</link>
		<dc:creator>Yabadabado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DO YOU FEEL SAFER AMERICA WITH THE REPUBLICAN’S WAR ON TRUTH AND DECENCY?  GUESS WHO IS ONLINE WITH YOUR KIDS? ARE YOUR KIDS SAFE AT SCHOOL?  HOW MUCH OF WHAT YOU HEAR IS POLITICAL SPIN DESIGNED TO CONFUSE THE ISSUES?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO YOU FEEL SAFER AMERICA WITH THE REPUBLICAN’S WAR ON TRUTH AND DECENCY?  GUESS WHO IS ONLINE WITH YOUR KIDS? ARE YOUR KIDS SAFE AT SCHOOL?  HOW MUCH OF WHAT YOU HEAR IS POLITICAL SPIN DESIGNED TO CONFUSE THE ISSUES?</p>
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		<title>By: dab from CT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/06/no-justno/#comment-326843</link>
		<dc:creator>dab from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-326821&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Margot @ 150 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;DOJ evacuated, now all clear given, don’t know what caused the alarm.&lt;br /&gt;
via CNN&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…And yes, I am just that cynical to think it’s a ruse. I feel like I’m living in the old Soviet Union and every bit of news is inspected, detected, torn apart, compared, discussed, and seldom believed.  It’s damned exhausting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes. We’re all Kremlinologists now. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was just thinking about “A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” - the government lies and calls sane people, insane.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-326821"><em>Margot @ 150 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>DOJ evacuated, now all clear given, don’t know what caused the alarm.<br />
via CNN</p>
<p>…And yes, I am just that cynical to think it’s a ruse. I feel like I’m living in the old Soviet Union and every bit of news is inspected, detected, torn apart, compared, discussed, and seldom believed.  It’s damned exhausting.</p>
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<p>Yes. We’re all Kremlinologists now. </p>
<p>I was just thinking about “A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” &#8211; the government lies and calls sane people, insane.</p>
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