
Forty-four subpoenas have been issued by the House Ethics Committee in the preliminary inquiry into the mess surrounding former GOP Rep. Mark Foley and what the Republican House Leadership did or did not know, among many other issues. According to the WSJ, the Republican leadership has turned to two pillars of ethical standards for advice on navigating the troubled waters of the Foley flood of bad news: Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh.
No, I'm not kidding.
The hang-tough strategy is being urged by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, conservative talk-show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh, and increasingly, according to several Republicans, by party Chairman Ken Mehlman and White House political advisers. "Get indignant," as one former House Republican and top party strategist put it. "We don't have to take any lectures from Democrats."
Aside from the lunacy of taking ethical advice about sexual misconduct and perversion from Gingrich and Limbaugh, they have reverted to the time-honored Republican tradition of just making shit up. (Again, no, I'm not kidding. Via the WSJ):
Advocates of this approach call for avoiding responsibility for not taking action against Mr. Foley, while reminding the public about past Democratic sex scandals, notably President Clinton's, involving former White House intern Monica Lewinsky. They suggest — so far without evidence — that Democrats held on to information about the Foley emails and instant messages until close to Election Day. "As much as we'd love to take credit for chasing a child predator out of Congress, their charges are ridiculous," said Bill Burton, spokesman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
Here is a thought for all the reporters out there: how about the next time some Republican talking head raises the straw man that Democrats planted this story, why not simply ask them to produce some proof other than just tossing off a straw man.
The fact that Brian Ross of ABC News who broke this whole mess says this accusation is untrue — that his source was a Republican – makes me wonder if the source was a Republican who is gunning for Hastert's leadership position. Wouldn't that make a nice, fat, juicy story for a hard-working reporter to break instead of just allowing people to spew unsubstantiated ass-covering talking points with no foundation in fact whatsoever and then not calling them on it? Yeah, I thought so.
In case folks in the media have forgotten what "Bad Newt" is like, this Frontline Documentary ought to be a good refresher. Or this Vanity Fair article by Peter Boyer, containing such gems as:
Another Gingrich theme in that campaign was moral leadership and family values. He drove the point home with an ad claiming that if Shapard were elected to Congress she would leave her husband, a local businessman, behind, while Gingrich would keep his family together. This issue was a subject of particular irony among the Shapard campaign staffers, where gossip about Gingrich's roving eye was widely believed and it was assumed that the Gingrich marriage was on the verge of breaking up. "As the days dwindled down in the end of the campaign," Shapard says, "the campaign workers had an unofficial pool going on to see how long it would take him when he got to Washington to dump [Jackie.]"
Not long, as it turned out. Jackie Gingrich went to Washington with her newly elected husband, but she did not return for his second term. She says that Gingrich walked out on her in the spring of 1980. That fall, while she was in the hospital recovering from surgery for uterine cancer, he appeared at her bedside with a yellow legal pad outlining the details for their divorce. The next year, he married his current wife, Marianne Ginther, a small-town Ohio woman fifteen years younger than Jackie, who was then a personnel clerk with the Secret Service.
And this:
Democrats considered it the height of hypocrisy for Gingrich to go after Wright for his peculiar book deal when Gingrich himself had made not one but two unusual book arrangements. The first was in 1977, before he actually won his seat, when he accepted $13,000 from his supporters to write a book that he never completed. The second case, involving Gingrich's 1984 manifesto for the Conservative Opportunity Society, concerned a unique arrangement by which twenty-one "investors" paid $5,000 each to a limited partnership, run by Mrs. Gingrich, to raise money to promote the book.Gingrich stoutly maintains that his deal is "fundamentally different" from Wright's because the money given for his book by each partner was "an investment, not a gift" –so defined by Gingrich because each partner had a chance to reap a profit if the book became a best-seller. (It didn't.) However, Gingrich's wife didn't recruit just businessmen in forming the partnership, she recruited supporters of Gingrich's, many of them constituents, and at least fifteen of the people who have contributed to his political campaigns. Some of them have said that they had no intention of making money, they just wanted to do something for Gingrich.
Gingrich has taken the assault hard, and was reportedly shaken to the point of tears when he heard that four Democratic colleagues were asking that a special outside counsel pursue the charges. He says he was "surprised and hurt," and spent long, anguished hours wondering if he had in fact done something worthy of investigation.
But Newt Gingrich didn't get this far by indulging in self-doubt. The next day the bomb thrower was back on the attack, accusing the Democrats of "an amateur smear," and bullying the press for refusing to blithely accept his definition of an "investment" (House rules prohibit gifts from individuals in excess of $1,000). He played the annoyed college instructor, hectoring and ridiculing reporters. When he told Andrea Mitchell of NBC News that she was "overreaching" with a question, she expressed the sentiment of many in the room by snapping back, "It's an environment you helped to create."
Hello, members of the press and the public. This is the Gingrich Way — do wrong, and then bully people into stunned silence by accusing them of wrongdoing for even suggesting the need for the merest whiff of accountability. Stop falling for it, stand up and do your damned jobs.
As if you need a reminder, Media Matters has put together a fantastic compendium of the GOP's attempt to play "Pass the Republi-buck." No accountability, no real acceptance of responsibility, not a whole lot of evidence of remorse or fear for the kids involved in this either — but a helluva lot of finger pointing, shiny objects, and attempts to shift the blame.
Repeat after me: arrogant abuse of power under Republican leadership. Had enough?
(And as a creepy aside, Radar Online reports that mark Foley's residence in DC is a mere 0.2 miles from the dorm in which Congressional Pages reside. Location, location, location… H/T to reader "DK")
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GOTA!
I mean GOTV
(got excited)
(Where is everyone?)
CHRISTY!
Does anyone know if the William Morris agency represents Gingrich? ’cause TimeWarner owns William Morris and would go a long way to explaining how this non-newsmaker got on the cover.
Please, everyone, click through the links on this one. I’ve linked up a Gail Sheehy Vanity Fair article on Gingrich and a Peter Boyer one. It took me a while to find a source that allowed you to read both articles fully — they are worth it for the wealth of background quotes on Gingrich. He does not get a pass to just trot his ass out as political guru on an issue of ethics without me talking about why he’s such an expert on handling damage control for scandals. Asshat.
Apparently the Republicans have forgotten the last time that Gingrich was counseling the “moral outrage” meme for the Party…..
That is why Hastert is the Speaker of the House…because Gingrich managed to lose congressional seats in spite of the Clinton /Lewinsky scandal.
-GSD
Alice at 5 — it’s an old Time cover from the early “Gingrich revolution” days when he was in his House ascendency. Just FYI.
It is 8 minutes after the hour. Does anybody else see a time stamp on FDL postings showing something like 43 minutes after the hour instead?
If so, something at the FDL server is broken — perhaps a battery giving out?
GSD at 7 — gee, could that be because Gingrich was trumpeting the whole moral outrage against Clinton at the same time he (Gingrich) was having an affair with a young staffer, for whom he left his second wife?
As for Ross’ source, I’m guessing it was a republican staffer who’s had enough, kind of like the 3 folks cbl talks about downstairs. If another Republican staffer was aware of Fordham’s conversations with Hastert’s COS and the lack of action, they might be sickened enough by the doublespeak and such that they’d pass the story along to Ross on the side.
Hastert, Drudge, and Limbaugh can spew their “it’s all a Democratic election plot” stuff, but for some Republicans, they saw the truth here already and that’s not going to fly. That’s how the story got out there, and that’s why it has legs.
And that’s why it’s going to bring Hastert down. Republicans have had enough, too.
you know christy’s ticked when she uses the s-word!!!!
Keeping it going, republicans. Don’t resign, don’t take responsibility. Keep this front and center in the news cycle all through October. Republican corruption meme just got its centerfold.
Morning again, Firepups
Here’s the best thing I’ve read today: Charles Pierce over at TAPped talks about someone who is truly Christian, and not just a Christianist
THE HARD PART. All due respect to the Reverend Schenck, but
this is more than touching. This is the one of the most purely Christian acts of public Christianity since Himself blew town. For almost 30 years, we’ve had to put up with reactionary politics and retrograde social idiocy gussied up in Scripture. We’ve had to pretend that the near-sedition that the crackpot Richard John Neuhaus and the Pharisaical crowd down at Crisis Magazine were preaching was worthy of something more than ridicule and contempt. The whitened-sepulcher crowd has been riding high, and they’ve scared timid liberal Democrats onto the fainting couches far more often than has been good for the country.
This sweeps all of that away: all the Just War Catholic he-men who have made a graven images of their own arguments and who worship primarily their own cleverness; all the smug, foundation-fattened preachers whose gyno-Christianity has reduced the basic message to what people can do to whom with their genitalia, all the fakes and frauds and mountebanks and Republicans. But I repeat myself. This is the real thing. This is the Gospels, acted out in public, by someone who’s never going to be asked to smirk on Tim Russert’s television show. The hard part about being a Christian is not that you have to live in a world where evolution is taught in the schools, or that John Kerry is allowed to take Communion, or the fact that you can buy your contraception at the grocery store. This is the hard part about being a Christian. This part, right here. Humility. Acceptance.
Forgiveness.
– Charles P. Pierce
Gingrich spouting morality is like getting tounge when kissing your Grandpa.
Alice Marshall @ 4
Alice, I am pretty sure that is a real old cover on Time……from when Newtie was first “storming the gates”.
Christy, if you want to have some fun, read some of Limp-baugh’s commentary from his first book about how Congress is the most important arm of government and how the presidency is overrated…of course that was when Newt was Speaker and Clinton was Prez.
Now we have a King and his Jesters running the show.
-GSD
I wonder if there is a new “Flynt Report” in the woodworks?
It took me a while to find a source that allowed you to read both articles fully
Thanks Christy, much appreciated.
Yes Prof, I’m currently showing 7:44, but otherwise site is running smoothly.
See
Mark Foley and the unmasked Republican Party
Denny Hastert is smack in the middle of one of the tawdriest and ugliest sex scandals in American political history. As a result, he has been the target of aggressive criticism, even from a few members of his own party, and, by all accounts, is desperately battling to keep his job.
In need of moral absolution and support from a respected and admired figure who possesses moral authority among Hastert’s morally upstanding Republican base, to whom does Hastert turn? A priest or respected reverend? An older wise political statesman with a reputation for integrity and dignity? No, there is only one person with sufficient moral credibility among the increasingly uncomfortable moralistic Republican base who can give Hastert the blessing he needs: Rush Limbaugh. And so that is where Hastert went yesterday in order to obtain the Decree that He Did Nothing Wrong.
As much as I tried — and, trust me, I really tried — I couldn’t expunge this picture from my mind yesterday because, in all its visceral hideousness, it really illustrates what I think is the principal reason why this Foley scandal is resonating so strongly. This is the real face of the ruling Republican party, and it has been unmasked — violently — by the exposure of Mark Foley and his allies who protected and harbored him.
If the term “moral degenerate” has any validity and can be fairly applied to anyone, there are few people who merit that term more than Rush Limbaugh. He is the living and breathing embodiment of moral degeneracy, with his countless overlapping sexual affairs, his series of shattered, dissolved marriages, his hedonistic and illegal drug abuse, his jaunts, with fistfulls of Viagra (but no wife), to an impoverished Latin American island renowned for its easy access to underage female prostitutes.
Yet that is who Hastert chose as the High Priest of the Values Voters to whom he made his pilgrimage and from whom he received his benediction. The difference between Rush Limbaugh and Mark Foley, to the extent there is one, is one of hedonistic tastes, not moral level. Rush Limbaugh isn’t just tolerated within the party that stands for religious piety and moral strength. He is a leader of it, arguably the leader of its most righteous wing. Is it really all that surprising that a political movement that has chosen a moral degenerate like Rush Limbaugh as one of its most revered and morally respected leaders is not all that bothered by — and therefore actively harbors — the Mark Foleys of the world?
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
I smell heavy Spotlight use comin’ today!
NOT.GINGRICH.NOT.LIMBAUGH!
NOT WITHOUT A NASTY NASTY FIGHT!
And Dems. won’t be the ones getting dirty.
They won’t have to.
This is disgusting!
Who engineered this mess? Isn’t rove supposed to be smarter than this? Would Gingrich & Rush be such overblown egos, so out-of-touch that they chose themselves, believing it was a “good idea”?? Is Denny this desperate???
!!!IDIOTS!!!
oh – fire at will, dawgs! YEEHAW!
Prof @ 9
My FDL clock’s screwed up as well – it’s not just you.
ditto clock trubbles…
It won’t work this time:
1) Once too many times (or more)
2) People are disgusted and don’t hear their weasel words
Didn’t Old Family Values Newt leave his wife as she was coming out of surgery for cancer?
Didn’t he pretend his lesbian sister didn’t exist?
I think they are so intellectually and morally bankrupt that they are drawing down accounts they haven’t used for decades. Kissinger is running the operations in Iraq, for goodness sakes.
Watch out: John Mitchell may be called forth from the dead to stymie Fitz.
And they tried to get J. Edgar Hoover to cover up this mess with Foley, but he was too far gone.
OfT, Cozumel, thanks on the prior thread for the heads up about Nancy Grace opposing the GOP’s impeaching Clinton.
John at 17 — You are very welcome. Both articles are quite illuminating, and well written — I remembered both, but tracking them down this morning took a while. Luckily, the Frontline folks had both, in full, which was wonderful. Great resource (and perhaps one of the many reasons that Gingrich hates funding public teevee…*g*).
I hate these fucking people.
Alison 22 707!
thot I smelled something pretty ripe…
Please spotlight this to MSNBC — their talking heads have been muffing the fact that Brian Ross said his source was a Republican for this. Jeebus — how hard is it to Google for five minutes before you go on the freaking airwaves.
OT – New Reuters/Zogby poll released yesterday shows Democrats leading in three of the seven most vulnerable Republican-held states.
“Democrats lead Republican incumbents in Montana, Rhode Island and Pennsylvania. Republican incumbents lead in Virginia and Missouri, the polls found, with races in Republican-held Ohio and Tennessee deadlocked.”
Democrats need 6 seats to recapture the Senate. Not likely, but closing the gap will at least slow down the Machine.
Christy,
Remember Newt promising this:
“Hypocrisy interlude! In 1998, while 55-year old Gingrich was promising that he would mention the subject of Clinton’s sex life in every speech as long as he was Speaker of the House, he was having an affair with a 33-year-old congressional aide. The irony not quite deep enough for you yet? Okay, try this: One of his former mistresses told Vanity Fair that “[Gingrich] prefers [oral sex] because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.’” Sounds like someone else didn’t have sexual relations.”
Bring it on Newton.
-GSD
Twisted Martini @ 25
Twisted Martini, how very Christianist of you.
Percy at 28 — I saw some other polling information this morning that shows a lead in five of six tight Senate races — and this didn’t include OH, PA or MT. I’ll see if I can find a link and put up some information for everyone in a bit.
percy @ 28
The one I posted yesterday showed Dems leading in eleven of the fifteen tightest races.
Go Team Blue!
The GOP taking advice from Gingrich and Limbaugh: crooks taking advice from crooks.
Sheesh…
Who else might the Republicans have gone to? Republicans with a modicum of decent morality – say, Jack Danforth – have been distancing themselves from the wingnuts for quite a while, and aren’t likely to be approached for advice from those in power today.
Gingrich and Limbaugh are two more signs that for the Republican leadership, it’s all about power and the protection thereof. If it was about anything else – investigating the mess, revamping the oversight of those who interact with pages, rebuilding trust with the electorate, anything – other advisors would have been brought in.
Prof @ 30
Let me restate…I hate what their actions and behavior has wrought. I pray for them every day.
how it’s done -
period
I’m fuzzy on this, but wasn’t there a problem about 12 months ago with an alleged “rent boy” being given a press pass for access to the WH ?
Might the Foley probem somehow be connected ?
Just wondering.
Christy
Extra time well spent. I plan to savor this article and all the comments. [savor?! *shudder*]
YOU.ARE.THE.BEST.EVER
Not sure what we’d do without your talent and tenacity.
Imagining a perfect world with you as Prez. or SecyState…. ah-h-h.
NOW. To read…. Then to act….
Yes, you do. On this, you can sit down, shut up, and take your lectures from anybody and everybody who knew better than to cover for a child molester. And with any justice, the lecturing will include lost votes, you money-grubbing, power-hungry, pervert-protecting bastards!
On a positive note this morning, I just checked in at Blue America and we’ve now raised over $250,000.
Way to go Howie, DWT, C&L, and FDL!
Pages and cluster bombs: how not to protect children
While the blogs and trad media express the appropriate levels of disgust and outrage over the Republican sex scandals and related coverups, it is worth focusing the nation’s collective anger and dismay at an even worse tragedy that is killing children in Lebanon, even today. I know: we can talk about Darfu and other ongoing international horrors, too. But today’s front page New York Times article, “Israeli Bomblets Plague Lebanon,” by Michael Slackman, so directly implicates American foreign policy, Israeli policy and the merchant arms industry to the deliberate killing of innocent people, including children, that we should not let this go unnoticed. It is more than ironic – words fail here – that the Republican sex scandal could sink the party’s chances in November, but the reckless – indeed, apparently deliberate — killing of Lebanese civilians/children will likely have little affect. Why is that?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..r=homepage
You have to read the full story, and in particular, look at the graphic map, to see the full horror of what the Bush Administration and Israel have done.
Newt Gingrich, morality? Stop you’re killing me.
This is just another example of the need to drive a stake through the heart of these vampiric hasbeen politicians and their hangers on. Just think how much better a world it would be if this had happened to the likes of Nixon, Kissinger, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and, of course, Newt. I have never understood how a scumbag could be hounded out, take a few years off, and then return as a respected, honored “elder statesman”.
USA Today has a lead about the close Senate races.
Not to mention the demoralizing election day when Republicans will see New York fall to (D) Elliott Spitzer by a vast margin and they will see the 20 years of Republican gubernatorial incumbency in Mass. fall to a black Democrat, Deval Patrick…….Also, Ed Rendell will hand Lynn Swann his ass too.
-GSD
The only shaky pegs are Menendez in New Jersey and Granholm in Michigan. Arnold the Groper will waltz to victory barring any boy-touching allegations.
nj progressive #14 — any chance you have a link to that bit by Charles Pierce? I can’t find it at TAPped, would love to share it with my peeps in PDA’s Spirituality/Values task force.
It has been heartbreakingly moving to compare the response of the Amish community to that of the rest of the secular and Christianist world. It makes me tear up every time I think of that 13-year-old offering to sacrifice herself to save the rest of the younger children.
Not one of the Republican leadership have that kind of moral conviction, cannot step down to save the morals of their party. And there isn’t a gun in sight.
I’ve been wondering, for about two days now, where Blunt is in this whole debacle. That, and whether and how he is tied in with Rover and Mehlman. David Corn has been writing about the list of supposed gay Republicans circulating; could this be part of a “stir up the religious right base” exercise and incipient intra-Repug purge, all with the objective of making the Repugs in the House even more supple to Rover’s wishes and maybe putting Blunt in charge?
You could almost see Denny’s sigh of relief in handing off to the ethics committee. The very same committee that was stacked to protect the Republican leadership(then in the form of Delay). Expect no results from that avenue.
Chimpy on CNN – I thought I had the Discovery Channel on but no, this ape is our president.
they broke in on the beginning
-”rational government spending”
-more good news – unemployment down, wages up (?? not mine)
-asking to make tax cuts perm
-pleased w/ economic progress we’re making
I did not Keith O. but if he is on the Zelikow-Gate case, then I must not be totally crazy.
Philip Z. is very evil as I noted last night-see his wiki. He sandbagged the 9/11 Commission. For What Its Worth (there’s something happening here) I am writing an article on this. But there is so much here that I suggest the FDL BRAIN TRUST begin an immediate investigation on this very mastermind-Dr. Evil Z.
EDP at 39
Spot on! You bet!
Where’s that ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK banner!
Dear Senator so-&-so…
snip
Dear Rep so-&-so…
snip
Dear media”giant” boss:
snip
Dear sponsor/enabler/contributor:
. . . . .
Chimpy on CNN – thanking FedEx for letting him speak at their facility. and it seems to be over. Either CNN missed a lot of the beginning or Chimpy didn’t have much to say.
percy @ 28
I think not. Even with 45 seats (enough votes to sustain a filibuster), we couldn’t block Alito because of D defections. Only 51 votes (or 218 in the House, on other matters) will do the trick.
Senate Races -
am not a Harold Ford fan (Mr. cbl loves him,@#^$@%!) however ,
he was 13 points back in August – and now enjoys a 5 point lead in Rasmussen (heavy Repug tilt) polls
his opponent Corker replaced his entire campaign staff on Monday
was wondering aloud the other night – Mehlman sent all his best & brightest operatives to RI to help Chaffee, pulling them from other tight races – at the time, many of us were wondering what the fallout might be from such a brain drain – might this be tied to Ford’s 18 point swing ? Heckuva job Kenny !
and hey, is Bob Corker in attendance with the Chimp in Memphis today , hmmm ?
Gingrich needs to be shopping for a lawyer, not dispensing advice. If the reports are true that pages have been warned about Foley for ten years, that means Newtie himself probably knew about Foley’s predatory habits while he was speaker… and did nothing.
Somebody needs to ask Newtie about this.
preview is my friend…..
I need never to ignore my friend.
Looking at the poll numbers, I’m reminded what Rahm Emanuel said about John Laesch’s run against Hastert…I believe “quixotic” was the word he used. And wasn’t he the one who whined about Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy? Think how we’d be feeling now if there was no candidate against Foley, Reynolds, and Hastert.
twolf1– perhaps they decided not to cover it since his completely dreadful speech yesterday on NCLB. A failure for so many except:
http://www.businessweek.com/ma…..005059.htm
Bustednuckles @
15
Which, in a somewhat circular way, brings us right back to Mark Foley.
;>)
twolf1 — Chimpy spoke at a FedEx facility?
Jeepers. A perfect audience.
An expectant hush falling over them as he steps up to the podium, paused as they wait to move on…miles and miles of mute boxes and envelopes.
scribe at 45
Seen any video lately?
Blunt’s right there like the pervertbial hyena, trying not to drool on camera.
He’s got plans awright.
Look at the day-glo P-O-W-E-R sign on his brow-ridge.
Here’s what I want to see SOMEBODY ask old Newtie:
If, as we’ve heard this week, some of the pages were warned about Foley’s behavior back in 1995, what did he know about Foley’s behavior when he was Speaker of the House?
Adie @ 59
Cue the footage of a vulture pecking at a cadavers eyeball.
-GSD
OT – Today’s school lockdown brought to you by Florida
I think the best thing that could happen from the Foley scandal (other than giving us the house) is the dissillusionment it inspires with the social conservatives. And, just like in 1992, all we need is a conservative 3rd party candidate to bleed votes from the repugs to hand us the presidency.
Let’s assume the Repugs lose the election.
It wasn’t looking too good for them even before this broke; their own internals may have indicated they would lose. But just assume they lose.
With this scandal having gone on, rather than lay the blame for the loss on the policies of the Admin, which really led to the loss, the Admin can go to the religious and social con base and say:
“We lost the election because of the gays. They couldn’t keep their hands off the kids. Now, the gays’ best friends, the Democrats, are in charge, and look at all the investigations they’re doing and all the damage to the Saintly Preznit. And we’ve done a great job of rooting the gays out from our party, but we’ll need your help to clean them out of political life. You’ve got to help us in 2008 (besides, you’ve got nowhere else to go…).”
This would be not too different from what happened after ‘74 and ‘76: the real rise of the Religious Right as a political force was in response to the post-Nixon House landslide of ‘74 and in philosophical response to “too much freedom”, 70’s style.
I commented on this on Late Nite but a new meme is out and I saw at the BBC of all places. It is that with all the Republican scandals the Democrats need to win big in November. If they win but not “big” then they actually lose. It sounded very Rovian to me, a sort of don’t believe your lying eyes kind of theme.
How did the $20 million set aside for celebration of the victories (sic) in Iraq and Afghanistan come about? Were there senate and house votes?
Chris #53 — ah, now THAT’S the right tack to take on this one, from my perspective.
Compelled to Spotlight this now, asking why Newtie hasn’t been asked about his role in perpetuating the abuse of pages.
From the prior thread:
I am continually struck by the Alice in Wonderland world we live in and how there is so much lying, prevarication and intellectual dishonesty by people in public life INCLUDING so called journalists.
Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as accountability will we ever wake up from this nightmare where we live in a world we people speak the truth, and are truly held accountable for their actions?
Are too many people blind to this madness? Are they wearing some sort of rose colored glasses which filter their view of the world through some sort of bizarre ideological prism?
Why is it that the truth when revealed has such short legs and the lies leap ahead like they are on steroids all the time?
What is really driving all this “dishonesty”? What is at the core of it? Is it greed for money and power? Is it tribalism and exclusivity… bigotry? Why is power so seductive to so many people?
When will this nightmare end?
Scribe #45
Roy Blunt (MO) says today “Republicans stand together
with our speaker.” Also, Blunt says “Those who are trying to create
the appearance of disunity between myself and the speaker should know:
There is not, and has not been any daylight between the speaker and me.”
In other words he will throw anyone under any bus if he can.
Ed*ard Teller @ 66
I believe I read somewhere that paragon of virtue and manliness Mitch McConnell was behind it in the Senate. I don’t know about the House.
GSD @ 61
Sort of like; patience my ass, I’m gonna kill something.
CARLSON: … you believe that Mark Foley was outed, his behavior was revealed to the world by gay Republicans bitter at the fact he was not publicly identifying himself as gay?
ROGERS: I‘m saying it was gay Republicans. It was people who are—I would think have something against Mr. Foley.
We see in “The Hill” that it was a GOP aide.
CARLSON: Right.
ROGERS: So clearly—and we have now known while people are claiming that this was released now, these are the folks that have sat on these for well over a year, and in some cases folks have been known, I guess, five years ago talking about this. So what I would say is I think what‘s happening is we‘re finding a crowd of people who are looking to point fingers at people who are in Congress and staff members in Congress who are—they want to point, you know, all these gay folks.
And what I would say is this: if gay men and lesbians are such a trouble inside of the Congress and they believe that it‘s such a problem, when I report on more of them before this next election, what are going to say about them? Will they join me in having them resign from the House?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15156532/
Hugh @
71
I’m looking for a bill number and vote counts.
Let’s not forget that after Newtie informed his first wife he wanted a divorce while she was in the hospital, he also left the second one. Is he now on his third, or fourth, wife? And the Repugs use this guy for moral values advice?
Cozumel @ 73
Maybe “something” was the simple fact that Foley is a pervert and a predator and the House leadership had been looking the other way for years. I mean, while we’re speculating, let’s speculate that a Republican aide actually did the right thing.
oh, oh, pick me, pick me ! . . .
Roy Blunt was DeLay’s pick for Majority Leader – Boehner could not have got the job without Hastert’s assent . . .
so Roy continues to dejectedly thumb his ‘burn book’ and is horribly disappointed that Rove/Mehlman have sent word out to rally ’round the Leadership . . .he’d probably already picked out his china pattern*g*
Hugh @ 64
Yeah, the fact that “the Dems lost” when they took control of the House by 10 seats instead of 30 will help a lot in January when Henry Waxman starts passing out subpoenas.
We’re not fighting a national election – we’re in 435 local races plus 33 statewide races. 216 and 51 are the magic numbers.
Subpoena – that’s the word keeping Cheney, Rove, and everyone else awake at night. They’re not going to get much sleep between now and Nov. 7, worrying about the elections. If we work our tails off and win, they will get even less after that.
Damn, for a sec I thought that was a NEW Time cover! That would be true horror!!!
LET them trot out Gingrich and Limbaugh. We’ll tear them apart! They don’t bring in anybody anyway, they only rally the 34% base. Which is pretty bad I suppose but if this is the best they have they are F-ed!
As usual, Glenn Greenwald (Does the Foley scandal prove the existence of a God?) provides wise and insightful analysis. How in the world is he able to step back and gain such wise perspectives on a daily basis?
“…we intend to act ‘with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.’ To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves”
–Republican Contract with America
Erm, how’s that been workin’ out for you, Newt?
About that great economy Mr. Boosh.
-GSD
By the way, how are things in that Teflon closet Mr. Mehlman and Mr. Drier?
-GSD
EvilDrPuma @ 74
I think he’s arguing that Rogers is speculating that a GAY republican did the right thing. They’re probably the only kind of Republican where one has the slightest chance that they would do the right thing.
cbl @ 52
cbl-
The headlines in todays Tennessean says “Voter registrations faked in GOP drive”.
Do you suppose that’s how they are going to compensate for the brain drain?
Prof @ 78
Prof, after the earlier thread highlighting the lede in the NYT story on Condi’s visit to Iraq, Glenn’s opening line needs to be given equal time:
Intelligent design? Check.
Evolution? Check.
Divine inspiration. Brilliant!
Would someone explain to me why everyone is tiptoeing around the central figure in the Foley scandal, Jeff Trandahl. Howie Klein outed him as gay on Monday (also outing Hastert’s chief counsel, van der Meid, at the same time) — and Trandahl’s sexual orientation is the key to this story.
The Speakers Office has lots of duties — including administering the Page Program. That responsibility is delegated to the Office of the Clerk of the House — who is an appointee of the Speaker. And guess who was Clerk of the House when the former page from Louisiana went to his Congressman (Alexander) with the “sick, sick, sick” emails from Foley?
None other Trandahl.
It was Trandahl’s job as a gay Republican staffer to insulate his boss and the rest of the GOP leadership from the problems that arise from the fact that there are a bunch of closeted Republican congresscritters. Hastert, Boehner, Blunt, Reynolds, et al can’t officially acknowledge that Foley (and Dreier, and Schrock, and McCreary) like having sex with men — and it was Trandahl’s job to make sure they didn’t have to.
That’s why, when Alexander took the emails to Hastert’s office, they sent Alexander to Trandahl, instead of the Ethics Committee. (And it wouldn’t come as a shock to hear that van der Meid was the person in Hasterts office who told Alexander to got to Trandahl).
And that’s why Trandahl went to Shimkus (chair of the House Page Board, and another Hastert appointee) with the emails, rather than to the Ethics Committee, where they belonged. (The Clerk’s Office administered the page program, the Page Board oversaw the page program, and neither had any administrative or oversight responsibilities with regard to the interactions of Congresscritters and pages.)
And since Trandahl is gay, and everyone knew that Foley was gay, there is no way in hell that Trandahl didn’t recognize those emails for what they were — the calling card of a gay sexual predator. The simple fact that Hastert’s office sent Alexander to Trandahl, rather than to the Ethics Committee, was all the “instruction” that Trandahl needed — it was a big red flashing neon sign saying “COVER THIS UP”.
So, why is the media so uninterested in Trandahl’s role? Why is the CENTRAL CHARACTER in the cover-up of Foley’s sexual predation being practically ignored by the media — this is the kind of player in this story that should have reporters camped out in his office and at his home…. but nobody wants to bother…
Prof @ 80
Exactly right. It isn’t just that sex sells in the media–although that helps in this case–it’s that the idea of a person in power molesting children with impunity is enough to make any halfway intelligent, halfway decent human being sit up and take notice. This is what the Republican power-brokers fail to understand: that they aren’t being hurt by partisan politicking or media obsessiveness, but by their own screwed-up priorities and moral cowardice. They’ve done this to themselves, and their frenetic attempts to cover their asses with the same old fake investigations and outrageous counterattacking only reinforces the impression that they couldn’t care less about anything except their own hold on power. This time, it may just alienate them from a lot of people who might otherwise be their base.
Gingrich advising the House leadership on how to handle scandal, and Kissinger in the Whitehouse.
Anone who votes for this shower of sh!t next month needs……
Words fail me.
Cozumel @ 72
Go for it. Out them ALL. Out everybody. I am sick and tired of the hypocrisy of closeted gay americans in power. If you are not out, then you are a coward and a liar, and you are spitting on all the americans out there who have the courage to live authentically without dishonesty.
I mentioned a panel I watched on cspan about 6 months ago here. It was a all republican group of stategists. Kelleyanne fitzpatrick was one. Maybe 4 others.
I was struck by how honest they were about flaws in their party etc. A rare insight. The intesresting part is that they all mentioned NEWT as coming back. I wrote about it here when I heard that.
He was in the plans that long ago.
Prof @ 79
I’ve been gone for a couple of days and I’m sure this has come up but, this is just the sort of personal betrayal that is required for the RWA followers to break from the lying assholes that lead their movement.
scarecrow @
42
sadly with the complicity (if not out right cheer leading) of most democrats. we also have something to learn about facing our culpability with humility and responsibility….
angy cylcone -
oh sweet jeebus, didn’t make that connection !
you may be right. ’bout two weeks ago, Steve Gilliard wrote an illuminating piece about it being more than Diebold – Rove’s voter suppression efforts are so widespread and maybe successful b/c we’re all following Diebold like the shiny object it is . . .
http://stevegilliard.blogspot……dfake.html
Cozumel @ 72
And don’t forget a la Weyrich that they’re all preoccupied with sex, a charge I have never understood btw since Americans, all Americans, have always been obsessed about sex. I mean just look at this story for example. What gives it legs is precisely because it is about sex. With Clinton was it obscure land deals in Arkansas or Lewinsky going down on him that kept that story going?
An added note: I enjoyed the paranoid claim that they’ve known about this for 5 years and suddenly act on it now and how suspicious that was. You know like the Republicans holding detainees for nearly 5 years and then suddenly rushing through a bill legalizing torture and kangaroo courts a month before the November elections and their likely loss of the House.
windje @ 84
I’m not so sure about that. Note what Bowtie Boy puts forward that Rogers does not explicitly refute:
What I read here is Rogers allowing rather than challenging the idea that the (speculatively!) gay Republican whistleblower was angry not at Foley’s abuse of pages, but at Foley’s refusal to out himself as gay. The pedophilia doesn’t matter (after all, the Republicans have been trading on the gay=pedophile slander for years), it’s all about Foley not joining the club.
Rogers doesn’t challenge Carlson’s spin; therefore, he may as well be repeating it. “The Right Thing” doesn’t even enter the picture in their minds.
paul lukasiak @ 87
I keep wondering about Trandahl. I haven’t seen a single quote. Nor have a seen the usual “calls to Trandahl were not returned”. Dear MSM: He still works for the government. He shouldn’t be too hard to find. And unlike the ambassador to Switzerland, he doesn’t have a good excuse to leave the country.
Ed*ard Teller @ 73
It was buried in the book length Defense Appropriations Bill of 2007 I think.
something we never thought we’d see #9372
Think Progress -
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http://thinkprogress.org/
Boy, attacking Republicans is almost as easy as shooting quail these days.
-GSD
darkblack – aren’t we up early this morn – check your mail… ‘~)
GSD @ 100
I hadn’t seen that before…way cool! I just bookmarked it for my 13 yo daughter….
I will leave it to others to lay into Gingrich and Rush, but as for me, I just have to say that Ken Mehlman soooooooooooooooo needs to STFU RIGHT NOW. Got it, Ken? I mean it. Really. Of all people, you really need to STFU right now, before I really go off and go further IN DETAIL as to why I feel this way.
paul lukasiak #87 — let’s play around with that a bit.
Were we to substitute a straight woman in Trandahl’s role instead of a gay man, would the story be more or less compelling? Would the issue be about Trandahl, or continue to be about Hastert?
Not that I’m not curious about Trandahl; I’d love to know why he left for NFWF, the timing being what it was. But I personally believe the story goes to the House Leader.
And as chris pointed out up thread, that goes for Newt, too.
o/t kinda
via C.R.E.W.
Amb. Joseph Wilson’s Introduction to “George W. Bush Versus the U.S. Constitution” – a BuzzFlash piece
http://www.citizensforethics.o…..?view=3498
If foley’s problems began when he arrived at the House, doesn’t that at least suggest that the Speaker of the House at that time, perhaps Newt himself, has information that should be shared with the public? Did he know? Did his staff know? What did they do about it? Just curious . . .
-cbl-
Thanks for the link. Looks like they have their fingers in all the pies. sheesh!
ET– check out this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..ref=slogin
dratty @ 101
Oh Dratty – please don’t hold back and do tell us how you really feel! ;~)
GSD @ 99
Rhetorical bird shot has never affected the wing-nuts. Sticks and stones and all that you know. Unlike the kids they send to prove their theories.
cbl at 99 — I have to say, after reading through her post, I agree with most of it as well. (I know. Never thought I’d be typing that.) The bottom line on all of this is — these were kids, and a 52-year-old man has no business doing this sort of thing. Period. End of story. And trying to spin it any other way, or deflect blame elsewhere does nothing to negate that fact.
selise @
93
selise is correct here. The senate voted 70 to 30 in August to authorize the shipment of a complete replenishment of the Israeli cluster bombs expended during the final 72 hours before the nominal cease fire. In that same vote those 70 Senators gave the Israeli military complete immunity from limitations President Reagan had put on cluster bomb use in 1982, allowing the Israelis to now use the bombs on any target anywhere without fear of retribution from our congress
EvilDrPuma@94
If Scribe@63’s point
about blaming the gays is in the 2008 game plan, Rogers seems to be on the same page teeing that up. I don’t think it works politically to blame the folks that did the right thing, at least when considering voters with more than a room temperature IQ.
GSD @ 7
Actually, the GOoP lost seats because of the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal. Two things were eminently clear: first, most of the country thought Congress should censure Clinton (at most) and get on with business. Second, despite the clear sentiment, Gingrich and Co insisted on pushing through articles of impeachment.
Net result: lost seats in the House. Gingrich picked the wrong war and insisted on fighting it anyway.
Here’s hoping the same (finally!) happens to Dubya.
BC
angie @ 108
angie,
I’d just found a reference to the same article. I’m looking for more anti-Don Young info. No doubt Young was part of the “overwhelming” vote for the appropriation.
CNN did a great graphic this morning on how much body armor or humvee armor or prosthetic limb research the $ would buy.
1. Didn’t Newt tell his wife to go to hell on her death bed?
2. Didn’t Rush imply that Donovan McNabb was a black idiot? (nevermind the irony in Rush calling anybody an idiot).
3. Didn’t Rush get caught with Viagra travelling to the Dominican Republic.
4. Doesn’t the airport in the Dominican Republic hit you over the head with posters telling you how bad and illegal it is to solicit underaged prostitutes?
5. Why would the cover not mention the Democrats as a better alternative?
Bargain Countertenor @ 114
Isn’t that the point I made in that post?
-GSD
windje at 113 — the whole “blame the gays” angle is an effort to dangle that out in front of “values voters” to keep them active in politics instead of tuning out the GOP message right before the election on grounds of disgust. They are using Gary Bauer and his ilk to push this forward in an effort to keep the base activated for the election. There is a huge fear that the values crowd will be so disgusted, they will simply stay home. So the old stand-by “blame the gays” is getting trotted out, again — but polling evidence this cycle says it’s not effective, and may in fact be counterproductive, that I have seen anyway. Pathetic, wrong, cowardly and immoral — your Republican party values message at work. SIGH
This is funny. I’m really enjoying this: Newt, Rush, and morality plays. It’s 1994 again, Pugs! Morning in America. Awww, this is so quaint. They’ve taken a beating, so the goopers are going back for comfort food. It’s their political equivalent of mom’s turkey and mashed potatoes.
Kinda makes me…a little verklemmt. (*sniffle*)
Josh, yesterday:
NPR, today (Morning Edition), paraphrasing:
But Bush was “surging” with a 40% JAR…..Soft bigotry of low expectations and all.
-GSD
Repub: “George Soros made me a pedophile”.
Xxxxx: “If I got the wood, do you think he could make me one too?”
Sorry :)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 118
based on recent electoral history, one might suspect that the “blame the gays” meme was pre-loaded, ready to fire off at the slightest opportunity. No that this is the kind of “iopportunity” they had in mind….
paul lukasiak #87 —
love, love, love the Patsy Roberts connection ! -
“Trandahl joins the Foundation following 23 years of public service to the nation. He served on Capitol Hill as an assistant to . . . and Congressman Pat Roberts (Kansas).”
oh yeah, puhleeze bring that !
Christy -
I too have been pleasantly stunned by Malkin saying and doing the right thing – just found it funny to see it in print – and have been linking her all over Right Blogistan doing what I can to spark a Range War*g*
It’s the caught-cheater’s defense, “Who are you gonna believe: your loving husband or your lyin’ eyes?” Only this time it’s: “Who you gonna believe: us pillar-of-the-community Republicans or those lying libruls in the press?”
Were I a lying Republican scumbag, I doubt I could come up with anything better.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 115
I think this cover up is the proverbial straw, and that the Republicans just fell off a cliff. Hope they stay the course on this one.
Pelosi’s 100 hours plan:
“Drain the Republican Swamp”
Are all Democrats in close races accounted for?
-GSD
Lawdy. When it rains it pours, Herr Karlmeister. The Times reports “Evangelical Christian leaders are warning one another that their teenagers are abandoning the faith in droves.”
Look, let’s just stop muddying the water with the whole gay thing; that’s not the issue. The issue is that a sexual predator was given a pro-forma reprimand, there was no follow-up, and Reynolds gave the all-clear message when he urged Foley to run again. This was about fear of losing a GOP seat. This was about election strategy. This was about power blinding people to the simple elements of right v. wrong. This was about hubris and chutzpah.
Pro-forma reprimands are standard operating procedure from the GOP leadership, and Foley’s was one of many – the others were for people who are just common thieves and liars. That’s an issue. Foley may not have stolen any money, but he certainly stole the trust and a measure of innocence from young people who had the right to be safe from something like this; I doubt one could count the number of lies told by Foley, and by all those whose job it is to supervise and monitor and administer and manage.
The next time you hear a Republican say that the party doesn’t have to take lectures from Democrats, we should say that they should find someone other than multiply-married, adulterous, drug-abusing criminals to lead that charge, if they can.
Sally @ 128
Apparently they aren’t buying those stories that they were “touched by the Lord” in their bunkbeds at Jesus Camp anymore.
-GSD
New thread, gang. I couldn’t help myself… *G*
Here ET– I think this may be it:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll510.xml
GSD @ 130
“Oh God”
“Oh God”
“Oh God”
“Oh God”
Primordial Ooze, great link to Pelosi!
From your link, bold is mine.
By DAVID ESPO AP Special Correspondent
GSD @ 116
Uh, no. Not to me, anyway. You said ‘in spite of,’ which suggests that it was a good issue for them.
BC
Ed*ard Teller @ 112
do you know the bill number? i’d like to check how my senators voted on that one…. (S.RES.543 was bad enough)
Tortoise @ 121
I don’t know just exactly what thing the right has about Soros. It’s not like they don’t have the Coors and the Sharaifs(sp?)that fund the Wurlitzer. Oh, wait a minute, their billionaires own media outlets and Soros doesn’t.
Yeah, John. She hit the big points that can’t be used against D’s in the election runup. I’m looking forward to “the next 100 hours…”
selise– here is the link to the shameful Senate vote and the monsters:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/…..9:SP04882:
Kerry and Kennedy voted to protect people.
PeteCO @
89
Peterr @
35
Mornin’ firepups -
First rain of the year (> 3 weeks early) and warming air with clear skies…NWS predicts 7 to 10 days of this. The flyway is busy – flocks heading south… Hope this fall morning is god for all of you.
Gingrich advocates the overthrow of our Constituional democracy, while distacting us with “terrorists” abroad and fellatio at home.
Within the last two weeks Gingrich (on NPR) seriously, forcefully advocated the abrogation of Federal judiciary power. He phrased it (in a conference about judicial issues with some of the Supremes) in terms of “a single judge” (that’s the meme, perhaps not the quote) defying the people’s will. He went beyond this ususal Reichwing shtick to talk about mechanisms for simply ignorig judicial decisons.
Bye bye, Constitution – who needs a judiciary with the Rethugs in charge? The judges would just get in the way.
The House Rethugs naturally turn to Kissinger and Gingrich: two heroes of the authoritarian junta.
Wonder what the woods smell like after this rain?
Let’s find out.
RightBargain Countertenor @
136
I said the last time the Republicans listened to Gingrich counsel on moral outrage in 1998 they lost seats…..they thought that the Lewinksy outrage was a good issue, but they lost seats nonetheless.
So the point is, the party that listened to Gingrich in 1998 and lost seats is now going to listen to him again in 2006. He is making a point of “moral outrage” and attacking the Democrats…which he thinks is a winner of a point but is likely a loser.
Sorry for the confusion.
-GSD
Need more cough-syrup.
angie @ 139
angie, thank you… and i am so glad that kerry and kennedy did the right thing…. a bunch of Ds did not:
Evan Bayh, Joseph Biden, Hillary Clinton, Christopher Dodd, Daniel Inouye, Mary Landrieu, Frank Lautenberg, Joseph Lieberman, Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Mark Pryor, Jay Rockefeller, Kenneth Salazar, Chuck Schumer
sigh.
edit failure. my post seems to connect authoritarians with forests.
the only connection the Bush/Gingich/Hastert crooks have with forests comes at the end of chainsaws and feller-bunchers.
paul lukasiak @ 87
it does seem to make a pretty obvious narrative. i hate to go down the road of “gays covering for gays”, but it is a story that isn’t being covered. since you did such a great job of laying this out, i hope you email it to every media source you can.
tossing off…heh.
Bustednuckles @
15
Whoa, whoa, nooo 707 LMAO on the floor in tears!
Just starting the thread… Christy had this in her post.
If that tid bit of info turns out to be true, well, I say thank goodness someone did! No Republican with this information had the decency to protect children/ employees or demand human decency on the job after years of knowledge. No wonder we have a president who wanders around the world groping heads of state (Germany), what else are you, you, (snear) Republicans hiding?
Tortoise @ 121
LOL
That’s a slight variation of one of my favorite lines of graffiti ever…;-}
DefJef @ 69
Thank you for making this point so eloquently and succinctly. I wonder about this every day. That there is any discussion using the lies as a starting part just slays me. Dean and a few others are good at reframing so the discussion is based in reality.
Don’t our supposedly moral fellow Americans think lying and deception is immoral?
I think we get some insight into why and how the wingnuts distort reality from Suskind’s article in the NY Times Magazine – and John Dean’s Conservatives without Conscience.
But that doesn’t explain journalists.
DOJ evacuated, now all clear given, don’t know what caused the alarm.
via CNN
…And yes, I am just that cynical to think it’s a ruse. I feel like I’m living in the old Soviet Union and every bit of news is inspected, detected, torn apart, compared, discussed, and seldom believed. It’s damned exhausting.
Were we to substitute a straight woman in Trandahl’s role instead of a gay man, would the story be more or less compelling? Would the issue be about Trandahl, or continue to be about Hastert?
rayne, I think it would be a slightly less compelling narrative, because this is not just about “staffers insulating their bosses” — its using gay staffers to insulate GOP politicians from having to deal with the consequences of closeted Gay republican elected officials.
it does seem to make a pretty obvious narrative. i hate to go down the road of “gays covering for gays”, but it is a story that isn’t being covered. since you did such a great job of laying this out, i hope you email it to every media source you can.
I think you may have missed my point — the gay staffers are “covering up for gays” on their own — they are doing so on behalf of GOP political leaders. My thesis is that Alexander shows up at (or calls) Hasterts office, and says “we have a problem with Foley.” Rather than bring it to Hastert’s attention, (or refer it to the Ethics Committee) it goes to Hastert’s “cut-out”, his Chief Counsel van der Meid. And van der Meid, whose job it is to protect Hastert, tells Alexander to talk to Trandahl, rather than go to the Ethics Committee.
Trandahl knows what is expected of him — but as the Clerk of the House he can’t actually be the guy who talks to Foley, so he enlists one of Foley’s Congressional peers, Shimkus.
Trandahl had to know that he was covering up for a sexual predator — but he wasn’t doing it to protect Foley on his own, he was doing it because that is what the Speaker’s office wanted.
If pursued, Trandahl will crack, because my guess is that he isn’t happy about having been put in that position….
*********
also, keep in mind that there was a parrallel even going on. Alexander later went to Reynolds with the email story. Who does Reynolds tell to handle it — his own gay staffer, Fordham.
Its not about a cabal of gays covering up for gays on their own volition, its about a group of gay Republican staffers who cover things up on behalf of their bosses in the GOP leadership.
Margot @ 150
Yes. We’re all Kremlinologists now.
I was just thinking about “A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” – the government lies and calls sane people, insane.
DO YOU FEEL SAFER AMERICA WITH THE REPUBLICAN’S WAR ON TRUTH AND DECENCY? GUESS WHO IS ONLINE WITH YOUR KIDS? ARE YOUR KIDS SAFE AT SCHOOL? HOW MUCH OF WHAT YOU HEAR IS POLITICAL SPIN DESIGNED TO CONFUSE THE ISSUES?
Oh Christie, keep it up. Those of us in Georgia who have a keener memory for Newt than perhaps the rest of the world have been shuddering every time his puss comes on T.V. [which is way, way too often these days]. He is the king of sleaze, even more than is generally known. And he’s also a total prostitute, saying anything necessary to get what he wants or please whomever he’s trying to please.
I love your research. It brings back painful memories, but ones that need to stay front and center. He almost lost here at his peak, but squeaked by, only to quit in disgrace in short order. So, any time you have nothing to write about, write about Newt. He’s as dangerous a character as the American Enterprise Institute ever spawned [rivaling Ledeen and Bolton]…
GSD @ 142
’sall right, GSD. I was just trying to clarify some background — I’m reading Lindorff and Olshansky’s book right now and just finished the section that went over the abortive impeachment of Clinton.
But if there was ever a presnit that needs impeaching, it’s Dubya. No way he gets convicted in Senate, but his successors of every political stripe need to understand that the Shrub crossed way over a bright line.
BC
It’s fun to speculate that a high-ranking Republican could be the source of the e-mails, but I think it’s pretty clear that it’s the Republican pages themselves that packaged this for ABC.
To believe anything else, you’d have to believe either:
1) that a bunch of Republican pages handed off these deeply troubling e-mails/IMs to Democrats; or
2) that Shimkus or Hastert DID conduct an investigation, found the more sexual e-mails, and did nothing, but a staffer didn’t like the outcome, and leaked.
Neither of those makes much sense. I think it’s pretty clear that it was the pages themselves.
Now that the FBI is involved in the investigation, failure to accurately recount what happened to the warnings about Foley would be indictable.
Just ask Scooter Libby.
Fleshbot has honored our Glorious Leader with the George Bush Butt Plug.
I believe Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh should also be honored with Butt Plugs named after them.
And, of course, once they all receive their gift in the mail, they should immediately insert each of their Butt Plugs, so as to keep their brains from leaking out anymore than they already have.
These commemorative Republican Butt Plugs might just put an end to all those Republican Washington leaks, especially with so many Republicans in Washington having their heads up their Butts…and leaking their brains out. Butt Plugs for all the Republicans. There’s the answer.
Oh, and on a side note:
Maybe these commemorative Republican Butt Plugs would work better if stuck in their mouths. Maybe it would stop all their lying.
Only 8 hours ago, I wrote a few posts above here that it was surely the pages themselves who had released the e-mails. I used deduction, saying the only alternatives were that the Republican pages had gathered them and given them to Democrats, or that the GOP leadership had investigated and then refused to do something despite knowing the true depth of the situation, and then a horrified renegade staffer leaked the e-mails/IMs. I said both were inconceivable.
Well, naturally, the full depravity of the GOP makes me swallow my words almost immediately. I still think the Republican pages are the most likely candidates for the leak, but sure enough, we now know that Palmer did investigate repeated instances of inappropriate contact with the pages by Foley. Despite that, they couldn’t bring themselves to do anything, nor even try to ease him out. Reynolds still convinced him to run.
This tops quire a lot for me. Even with the war, where I think they’re amazingly wrong-headed, I still think that many of the calculations are so abstract that if you really though we could ‘win’, it could be a moral position to think we should continue. But this is so utterly concrete. They just let it go on.