Wes Clark campaigned with Ned Lamont today, slamming Joe Lieberman for his hopeless bungling of the war in Iraq that has left America less safe as a result. Meanwhile, Connecticut House Majority Leader Chris Donovan also castigated Lieberman for refusing to call on Dennis Hastert to step down, saying:
Ned Lamont, correctly, has called for Speaker Hastert to step down. You, instead, have criticized those who want accountability from those entrusted with great authority.
Clark and Lamont also addressed the issue of the DC insiders Lieberman is so loyal to who have no problem putting kids at risk:
QUESTION: This issue of Dennis Hastert? Everybody is talking about that. The nurses that I work with -- bingo. You don't have to explain it, you don't have to get in an involved argument, because they see this Congress as putting kids at risk.LAMONT: My sense is we have people in Congress who haven't been parents for an awful long time. If any of you've got kids and you've got somebody in seventh grade and you found out that there was a teacher who was sending potentially inappropriate emails to somebody's fellow student, and that principle hadn't reacted, my God you'd go ballistic. You wouldn't be wondering about what the reaction of the other parents was going to be. And as far as I can figure out, the people in Washington are wondering what the political response was going to be and they didn't worry about the kids.
QUESTION: No, and that's what people can identify with.
CLARK: Why don't you just say, in case of Hastert -- it's kids at risk. In case of Republians -- it's America at risk.
Lieberman's refusal to hold Dennis Hastert accountable for his actions is even more deplorable when you listen to him undercut Democratic leaders like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who are trying to do so.
He is a vile and soulless human being.
(thanks to Spazeboy for the video of Lamont and Clark meeting with CT bloggers)
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Oww.. that Has ‘tert
I don’t know for a fact but I’d bet that was Kirby asking the questions in the YouTube.
gosh Jane … you really don’t like Joe, eh?
wonderful close!
and Lou Dobbs blasting voting machines now on CNN
Wes is a Patriot — I campaigned in a most possessed fashion for him for 2004.
An awesome man.
Go Ned!
loudobbs.com - poll - who represents your interests:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Seriously, what is wrong with Joe Tortureman?
Is it all calculus and no feeling?
Is he a reptile (sorry reptiles, you know I like you guys)?
Heart of stone and broken moral compass.
Thank you, Ned Lamont, for putting the issue right into perspective. And thank you, Wes Clark, for sticking it to Hastert and to the party.
Quick and to the point, get ‘em Ned.
Looks like Ned is gearing up for the home stretch … great stuff with Clark.
Maybe I’m just overindoctrinated, but I just can’t figure out what would make ANYONE vote for Lieberman, let alone a Democrat.
I was surprised to be the first commenter. I’m usually in the triple digits. Oh well, I’ll try to “Fitz” if ever happens again LOL.
Brownandserve @
1
(chuckle)
EPU’d
In border fence’s path, legislative roadblocks
Loopholes mean fence may never be built, at least not as advertised
The office of Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) yesterday released a letter from House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) promising to ensure that Chertoff has discretion over whether to build a fence or choose other options. Homeland Security officials must also consult with U.S., state and local representatives on where structures are placed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15149231/
LOL It just gets better and better ; )
Soulless Joe
TRex @ 10
Ditto. For the life of me, I cannot understand the Dems in Conn. On a more positive note here in New Mexico, I read today that Heather Wilson (R) was on the Page Committee (or whatever it is called). She is already lagging behind Patricia Madrid. I would think this Foley thing is going to do her in. Oh Happy Day. I don’t live in her district, but nonetheless, she is another one that needs to go.
Joe = stale socks. time for a change.
TRex @ 10
I agree with you. Particularly with the way he gave Hastert a free pass yesterday in his comments. I hope the people who don’t pay attention until it gets close to vote have started to pay attention.
TRex @
10
My brother thinks Lamont is another “limousine liberal” rich guy, and he buys into some of Joe’s bullshit. Mostly because he is uninformed. I’m in the process of informing him.
Cozumel @ 13
I think it will end up as a series of golf courses with links fees that only Republicans can afford.
EPU’d (Thanks, Rayne, for calling down to the basement!)
When Hastert said he “takes responsibility,” what exactly did he take responsibility for?
Read his statement, and he actually takes no responsibility for anything. Foley is responsible for sending the emails, of course. The Dems and George Soros are responsible for leaking them. He’s asked about his staff’s role, but answers with doublespeak - which says in essence, “I’m not responsible for my staff.”
Hastert’s statement accepting responsibility seems to be little more than a sentence that says “my name is at the top of the House table of organization.” Everyone else is to blame for this mess, it seems, but not Dear Denny.
whoo, hear that?
*crickets*
Where is everyone?
Cozumel #13 –
Wait. The shoe hasn’t dropped yet.
Check out the FULL text of The Real ID Act, passed last year March, and you’ll see what I mean.
There will not be much more discussion about this fence if the Dems don’t take back a majority.
Were I a Republican, I’d start buying stock in whatever companies are starting to write up proposals.
Blecchhhh…
I have to think Lieberman has handed Lamont a huge gift here. This play so perfectly into the “out of touch, too long in Washington” theme.
OT Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 10/06/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 0 states
$2.80 plus 1 state
$2.70 plus 0 states
$2.60 plus 6 states
$2.50 plus 3 states
$2.40 plus 5 states
$2.30 plus 6 states
$2.20 plus 11 states
$2.10 plus 14 states
$2.00 plus 4 states
Average national price: $2.282, down $.008 from yesterday
Down 65.6 cents from same time last year.
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.070
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.064
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
Nymex Crude Future $59.76, down $.26
Dated Brent Spot $58.86, down $.18
WTI Cushing Spot $59.76, down $.27
Same old, same old. Froomkin cited this article by Steven Mufson on theories of price manipulation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01907.html
It doesn’t really distinguish between the gas and oil markets and they are different. The part that I found interesting and which was also cited in a recent NYT story is the possible role of current Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. He came from Goldman Sachs and
It’s not that Goldman could go against the market but it could tip it since gasoline was near its historic high and seasonal declines were only a month or so away. In such a situation, it is possible to affect the timing of a change and also influence its rate. In fact, gas prices began their still ongoing decline just 3 days later on August 12.
CLARK: Why don’t you just say, in case of Hastert — it’s kids at risk. In case of Republians — it’s America at risk.
The Democrats need to point out that this is not an isolated incident that can be resolved with a few resignations and tearful apologies. This is the way the Republicans handle *everything*. It’s emblematic of the last six years, packaged (as I keep saying), in Jerry Springer terms.
I would also like to see them use the phrase “moral rot”.
bdu — Friday night is high school football,and in some towns it’s Homecoming game. Many folks are getting ready for the game, others finishing dinner, and still more commuting home.
It may be a bit quiet until 8:00 pm EDT.
And hopefully it’s quiet here tomorrow from 10am to 4pm while everybody is out beating the pavement going door-to-door in their neighborhoods.
David Lightman, the Washington Bureau chief of the Hartford Courant posted an item at the Chicago Tribune’s blog “The Swamp” this morning, opining that women democrats in general are getting a boost out of this story - and CT’s Diane Farrell in particular, running against Chris Shays. It’s a good read, covering briefly a number of tight races.
[The Courant is owned by the Tribune Co., thus the location of the posting.]
Emma Anne @ 23
Not to mention the question of just whose side Joe is on. He seems to have come down firmly and decisively on the side of the pedophilia-enablers.
Smooth.
Clark and Lamont speak out against Hastert. A VERY prominent Democratic front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination seems to be conspicuously absent an opinion on this essential issue at hand. I like Clark. And I like Lamont. For lots of reasons.
I luvs me some Spazeboy!
Thanks for getting the footage
Rayne @ 26
Of course, some of us here on the west coast are still stuck at work ;0)
I’ll be at an AES trade show all day tomorrow though, but I wish all those who are volunteering their time lots of luck and love.
Who are these bubbas named Patrick McHenry (whore-rors) from NC and Kingston from GA? They have pulled out the dregs.
on hairballs.
Rayne @ 22
We presently have something pretty similar to that in NJ and it really hasn’t created much of a problem.
I’m paying the big buck 95 in SC.
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
Hugh @
24
I have not noticed ‘jenny from the blog’ lately.
it’s another fitz fix!
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sun.....03104.html
new graymail requests
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
me neither and where is lotus, pray tell?
C-SPAN had the program today of former President Clinton campaigning Thursday for Joe Sestak. Clinton, as usual, made some great points. The main one–vote Democratic if you want to vote for someone in the reality-based community and not for the ideologues who brought you the huge deficit, the Iraq war, tax breaks for the wealthy, cuts in college loans, etc. The reality-based will listen to reason; the ideologues already have the answer so discussion is not an option.
Goldman is giving more money to dems than goopers this campaign season.
dang, i mentioned l*tus and je**y from the blog and ended up in moderation @ 37.
weird.
Just checking in to say hi. Am on a very serious health restoration program, physical and mental. Will have to back off of politics and blogging for a while til I get my equilibrium back. Anybody know where to get my gyroscope retuned? :) Tell tommy yum I’m reading that book the Art of Happiness that he recommended.
Will check in periodically and will continue to support our candidates and Marcy’s book. If anybody sees Medaka send my greetings.
Visited married daughter in SF. She’s doing great! Talked to graduate daughter in the Dom.Republic, she is also happy. Son is enjoying not being a freshman any more. Kids happy=mom happy. Boris is still alive and other kids recovering well. My 29th trip to Russia next month.
FIGHT BACK. SAVE THE CHILDREN.
pass_the_pretzels # 34
You are lucky. I’m quoting state averages, of course. South Carolina is one of the 4 states with gas selling on average in the $2.00-$2.10 range. The others are Missouri, Oklahoma, and Iowa.
Take care, egregious.
If you want to know why someone as duplicitous as Lieberman continues to have support, check out the story in the NYT (Jennifer Medina reporting) in which Lieberman claimed, falsely, that Lamont doesn’t support Israel.
Lieberman queries Lamont over commitment to Israel
As I wrote for an earlier post:
So Joe got a two-fer — Lamont has scary black friends, and no matter what Lamont himself says, those scary black friends don’t support Israel. In the story, it seems Joe’s “proof” that Maxine Waters doesn’t support Israel is that she joined with about a dozen other Dems to abstain on a House resolution expressing support for Israel recently, but the resolution also contained language praising the Bush policy in the region. Maxine abstained for that reason. But the kicker is, Lamont had already announced that notwithstanding the BS about Bush, he would have supported the resolution at the time. At least Medina got that part right.
So Lieberman was being completely dishonest in claiming Lamont didn’t support Israel, but the whole point of the remark was to play the race card, again. He did the same thing before the primary, and Jane wrote on that at the time.
rwcole @ 38
I would suppose that would depend on whether you took into account the effects of their interventions in the gasoline market.
angie @ 39
I don’t understand?
Hi guys –
Just wanna drop in and say hello to all my dear Firepups before I go do my “aqua-therapy” in the pool.
I can scarcely keep up with all the news as it goes down (”may you live in interesting times,” a curse, indeed), let alone have time left over to post. And then I was up so late last night trying to find out about the Apex NC chemical fire — my cousin lives right on the outskirts. Thank goodness no one was seriously injured, just some briefly treated for inhalation problems, then released. My cuz is OK and so are her kids and husband. (Hope they nail the corporation responsible!)
But I know y’all are on top of everything as rapidly as things occur! And it gives my heart a warm glow to know this FDL community is thriving right now. You all are the best!
One of the prayers that Mr. K8 and I utter every single night goes like this, “Please, Lord, help to unmask people of power to reveal exactly who they are. Please help trip up the evil and the corrupt in their very own evil and corruption. Please help to catch them in the very snares they set for others.”
I’m feeling like this prayer is being answered many, many times over in recent days.
We also pray for strength and energy and courage for all those who love justice and truth — and all you Firepups figure prominently in that category.
So I just wanted to thank everyone here around the Lake — hosts, posting guests, all the commenters — for your example, for your inspiration. You all help keep me motivated and focused and eager to keep on fighting, not just for this election, but for the rest of my life. Justice is a battle for the long haul, and this website is one of the best places anywhere to find renewal, refreshment of spirit, recharging of batteries, mutual support.
Long live FDL!
Oh, and lest I forget:
Fitz!!!!!!
TRex @ at 3:42 pm: I had to do a double take. I thought you were saying why would anyone vote for Lieberman let alone vote for a Democrat. I get it now. Whew!
Anyway, to those in the know, what’s the scoop with Ned’s campaign? All I’ve been hearing in the midwest is the pro-Lieberman Ned’s stalled variety.
you’all gotta check out the “write your own caption picture on this post over at crooks and liars!!!
bush and foley, “i don’t need no ruler”
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rwcole @
38
It will be interesting after the election to look at the contribution reports for August, September, and October to see who made similar shifts, placing corporate bets that the Abramoff/Delay/Republican K Street project is dead and they ought to send some $$ to the new leaders in town.
Love to you, egregious. May your heart be healed of sorrow, and your mind renewed.
Oklahoma kiddo @
46
neither do I and it remains in moderation. have I just missed the two ladies, or what?
scarecrow, your 44 is a good reminder . thanks.
punaise @ 49
yep.
Howard Fineman made a funny on Hardball.
CHRIS: What about Susan Ralston?
HOWARD: I think the GOP is loath to have yet another figure added to the mix here; I mean, it’s getting like the cover of the Sgt. Pepper’s album.
Pretty good mental image!
scarecrow @ 43
This is an outrage. This kind of misstatement is not clever. It’s the kind of below the belt behavior I have come to expect of Lieberman. Lamont IS a supporter of the state of Israel. Another example of the dirty-pool Lieberman is so very game at.
Take care of yourself egregious. Your’e doing God’s work.
Shooting you some positive energy.——->>>>>>>
scarecrow @ 54
blessings to you. ditto.
hugs to Mr. and Mrs. K8 too!
egregious @ 40,
Hugs and more hugs ;~)
I’m going to recommend a book that seems very calming to me, when I’m down: The Skull Mantra, by Eliot Pattison.
egregious, healing thoughts your way.
Mrs. K8 –
Well, that explains it; whatever you’re saying in those prayers, keep saying it. Glenn Greenwald opines (with tongue in cheek)!! that this is such a perfect scandal that it may be divine intervention. This was posted/linked to earlier today.
Does the Foley scandal prove the existence of a God?
OT:
1999 Teen Sex Scandal: Hastert & the GOP vs. ABC News & Brian Ross.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/6/151223/489
Spotlight?
PS - On Hardball, Joe Scarborough said he thinks the Dems will probably take the House and the Senate.
PPS - Howard Fineman quote, above, is paraphrased, not word-for-word.
Mentioning the names of certain people puts you in mod? How come?
shoephone @ 63
I dunno but it happened to me last week when I asked about l*tus.
I never did hear where she’s been. *s*
Oklahoma Kiddo –
I’m trying to recall anything substantive that Joe has said about Lamont in the last three months that wasn’t misleading and/or intellectually dishonest. And I can’t think of anything. But without a lot more money from the party and other Dems, there are only so many counter ads that Lamont can run. And it’s not in his nature to go negative. An outside force needs to come in and just blast Lieberman, every day, for his persistent lying.
Hi Busted! Nice to see you.
(I miss l*tus too, but maybe we’re not supposed to ask?…)
I’m using my FDL coaster right now.
Who is Lwtus?
Hi shoephone!
scarecrow @ 60
As to the existence of GOD? You might take a look at what the great French mathematician had to say about this several hundred years ago. This naturally, is if you care to. I do not advocate for the existence of anything. Except math, of course.
“Descartes’ Ontological Argument”
http://plato.stanford.edu/entr.....tological/
op99 @ 68
Our Floridian Flawah.
op99 @ 68
Don’t you mean “lowtus”?
scarecrow @ 65
That was an extremely ugly article. Evidently Joe was very upset about it — he meant those comments to be heard only by a private audience and wasn’t happy about being publicly called on it.
He does most of his egregious race baiting behind closed doors now — the public stuff is mostly dog-whistle or by proxy, but it’s the underlying theme nonetheless. He certainly is not above pouring gasoline on that particular nasty, hate-filled fire.
punaise @ 67
I have a FDL coaster too. I love it.
Jane Hamsher @ 74
where’d the FDL store go? I couldn’t find it.
You know what happens to people who play with matches?
They wet the bed.
(according to my dear departed Grandmother)
Bustednuckles @ 76
I heard that too.
ember @ 78
considering your moniker, I am sure you did. :) dear ember.
I look forward to Senator Lamont campaigning with President Clark for his second term!
angie @ 78
why, I set myself up for that one, fair and square ;)
Jane, that fact is itself very important, but I haven’t seen it reported anywhere. Is there any way to confirm it? In fact, I haven’t seen the Medina article picked up by the Connecticut papers, but perhaps it was by the local tv? Bob from CT here?
Inventor @ 79
Me too!
scarecrow @
81
I heard it from someone who heard it from a NYT staffer involved with the story. Both I trust.
TRex @ 10
The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.
ember– I do love your handle– it makes me think of (many nights long ago) snuggling down all happy after much good company, dinner and conversation in a little cabin in Virginia after kicking Macaca’s butt and throwing him out of our midst after he disrespected minorities and his own wife and all the gals there.
peace and embers.
Bustednuckles @ 64
Ask no more:
http://www.forbesautos.com/showroom/lotus/
Wes is out there WALKIN’ THE WALK - as always - along with Ned. Two up-front, straight shooting guys.
And, as always, Lieberwhiner has to have something weenie to say about it. He spent ‘03/’04 taking taking cheap shots at Wes and now the poor guy can’t seem to understand Wes supporting Ned instead of him. Has to get in some kind of smarmy dig every time Wes’ name comes up.
Joe is a small, sleazy man.
Go Ned! Wes Clark ‘08!
Despite ‘the buck stops here’ nonsense, how could anyone have bought hastert’s claim of responsibility when he clearly states, ‘I didn’t do anything wrong’???????
egregious….someone just recommended The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho to me…..do you know about it? Is it any good? It sounded like it might be of help in restoring one’s gyroscope. If you want to correspond with someone off the comment line, feel free to email me at erkroeker at yahoo . com.
Jane Hamsher @ 73
Tough. He’s running for re-election to a public office. I didn’t like Bush and Cheney trying to run their “real” campaign to private audiences, and I don’t like this.
check out the story in the NYT (Jennifer Medina reporting) in which Lieberman claimed, falsely, that Lamont doesn’t support Israel.
this Medina does not support Israel.
Bustednuckles @
64
Hmm, I think we may have something here. Remember when the petalled one was in mod-jail for a week or so? A platoon of mods could not figure out why. I asked after her one Late Night and that was the one-and-only time I ever got moderated. Wonder if it has something to do with the spam trapper and the name of a certain spreadsheet software?
NZ Expat @ 89
that is a beautiful book. I read passages of it at our son’s fifth grade “graduation” ceremony years ago.
angie,
thanks so much! I’ve been at FDL every day for over a year. Ember seemed appropriate because this site rekindled my interest in politics which I thought had died with ERA and the movie star president.
Hello from, where the hell am I? Oh yeah, Centerville, TX.
Oilfieldguy @ 94
Lost in the middle of nowhere?
Hiya OFG.
The Republican heavy hitters, Rove, and the rest, are worried. Very worried. And well they should. Hence the Ralston sacrifice. The Democrats will take the Congress this fall. But we have to pour it on now. When Rove pulls a Ralston, you can be sure the big boys are just about beached.
Oilfieldguy @ 95
You say you’re in Baja?
I just heard that Utah Congressman Cannon is blaming the parents of the pages for the problem. Let’s see. Explain the strategy. He’s blaming the parents of Republican pages. I would expect those to mainly be Republican parents. Again, explain the strategy of blaming your supporters for raising such little, predatory beasts….
When things go bad for republicans…BLAME SOROS!
Hi OFG -
Welcome center!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
Yeah, on the corner of walk and don’t walk, halfway between lost and found in the state of confusion. Wish I could vote for Kinky while I am here.
He’s blaming the parents and the tick-now-low-gee too.
Cannon has shot his wad.
pfft.
Hi OFG!
Hey, OFG!
I heard today that Republicans have decided to keep the money that Foley donated to their campaigns because “that’s what he would want us to do.” As if.
I also heard the deficit is up to $250 billion. Doesn’t that pretty much the fiscal conservatism” meme out of the water?
There hasn’t been much discussed about Ralston since last Oct/Nov. I thought she sought reassignment to a different nook in the Admin back then. I was surprised to hear she was actually still with Rove. What gives? I get the feeling Rove has wanted to be able to keep an eye on her at all times.
Sitting on a park bench…
Eyeing senate seats with bad intent…
;>)