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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325998</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-325612&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Evil Parallel Universe @ 163 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I’m deeply sorry that this has happened. &lt;b&gt;Ultimately&lt;/b&gt;, we’re taking responsibility for this. As someone said before in Washington, the buck stops here.”  (emphasis added)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s the word that sticks out to me: Yeah, if nothing better works out and we can’t blame the dems or someone else, we’re resigned (no pun intended) to, ultimately, someday in the future, if ever, sorta, take responsibility. Maybe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember that, originally, “ultimate” simply meant “last.” So what Hastert is saying is that the last thing he’s going to do is take responsibility. A very Republican sentiment!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-325612"><em>Evil Parallel Universe @ 163 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>“I’m deeply sorry that this has happened. <b>Ultimately</b>, we’re taking responsibility for this. As someone said before in Washington, the buck stops here.”  (emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s the word that sticks out to me: Yeah, if nothing better works out and we can’t blame the dems or someone else, we’re resigned (no pun intended) to, ultimately, someday in the future, if ever, sorta, take responsibility. Maybe.</p>
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<p>Remember that, originally, “ultimate” simply meant “last.” So what Hastert is saying is that the last thing he’s going to do is take responsibility. A very Republican sentiment!</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325994</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-325598&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Redshift @ 150 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Someone”?  So Hastert doesn’t know the words to the national anthem &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; doesn’t know (or doesn’t want to admit) who had the famous sign saying “The Buck Stops Here.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure he doesn’t want to admit that, unlike Mark Foley (R-NAMBLA), that individual really &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; a Democrat.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-325598"><em>Redshift @ 150 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“Someone”?  So Hastert doesn’t know the words to the national anthem <em>and</em> doesn’t know (or doesn’t want to admit) who had the famous sign saying “The Buck Stops Here.”</p>
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<p>I’m sure he doesn’t want to admit that, unlike Mark Foley (R-NAMBLA), that individual really <em>was</em> a Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: IllegalActions?</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325679</link>
		<dc:creator>IllegalActions?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The dubious claim has been raised that since Foley did not actually make proximal contact with the pages, not necessarily physical, he did not commit a crime.  What about the Dateline Predator series that has run time and time again?  Weren’t those men doing the same thing Foley was?  Aren’t these guys immediately swarmed by the SWAT team when they leave the house and subsequently found guilty?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I ask this in Christy’s post because she’s the resident legal expert at FDL.  What am I missing about the legality of what he was doing?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dubious claim has been raised that since Foley did not actually make proximal contact with the pages, not necessarily physical, he did not commit a crime.  What about the Dateline Predator series that has run time and time again?  Weren’t those men doing the same thing Foley was?  Aren’t these guys immediately swarmed by the SWAT team when they leave the house and subsequently found guilty?  </p>
<p>I ask this in Christy’s post because she’s the resident legal expert at FDL.  What am I missing about the legality of what he was doing?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325670</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whether it’s killing our teen soldiers in Iraq or exploiting them in Washington, that’s today’s Republican party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least this distracts our attention from all the outright theft and incompetence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it’s killing our teen soldiers in Iraq or exploiting them in Washington, that’s today’s Republican party.</p>
<p>At least this distracts our attention from all the outright theft and incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: kemo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325661</link>
		<dc:creator>kemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hastert: The buck stops here, especially the young bucks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325651</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought Katrina was a female page who also received an improper message from a Congressman.  snl&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Katrina was a female page who also received an improper message from a Congressman.  snl</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Probst</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325650</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Probst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re:  The Drudge “scoop”:  This is another major misstep.  Drudge loves a scoop, which is why he’s running with it.  My take on it is that the now-revealed page, a conservative Republican with political ambitions, has to come up with some sort of story to explain why he was having cybersex with another man.  He should have just gone with, “Look, I’m not proud of it, but I needed a good letter of rec, and the guy started sending me dirty messages.  I figured talking dirty to an old man was a small price to pay to get a letter of rec from a sitting Congressman.”  I think most people would’ve bought that.  He probably would’ve been able to dodge questions about his sexual orientation.  Instead, we have the “prank” scenario.  This does nothing to help Foley (he still took the bait), and it makes the page look both vicious and culpable for the whole scandal.  I understand that the ploy is to shift blame to “enemy political operatives”, but I just don’t see how it’s going to work.  Now people are going to start asking the page what he did with the IMs.  How did they get from the page to these “enemy political operatives”?  You’re in a jam, kid.  And you sure as hell can’t tell a whopper like that to the FBI.  I think this page is going to be the first kid outed as a result of this scandal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  The Drudge “scoop”:  This is another major misstep.  Drudge loves a scoop, which is why he’s running with it.  My take on it is that the now-revealed page, a conservative Republican with political ambitions, has to come up with some sort of story to explain why he was having cybersex with another man.  He should have just gone with, “Look, I’m not proud of it, but I needed a good letter of rec, and the guy started sending me dirty messages.  I figured talking dirty to an old man was a small price to pay to get a letter of rec from a sitting Congressman.”  I think most people would’ve bought that.  He probably would’ve been able to dodge questions about his sexual orientation.  Instead, we have the “prank” scenario.  This does nothing to help Foley (he still took the bait), and it makes the page look both vicious and culpable for the whole scandal.  I understand that the ploy is to shift blame to “enemy political operatives”, but I just don’t see how it’s going to work.  Now people are going to start asking the page what he did with the IMs.  How did they get from the page to these “enemy political operatives”?  You’re in a jam, kid.  And you sure as hell can’t tell a whopper like that to the FBI.  I think this page is going to be the first kid outed as a result of this scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325643</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New thread: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/blue-army-these-boots-are-made-for-walkin-precincts/&quot;&gt;Blue Army General Pach’s boots are made for walking precincts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New thread: <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/blue-army-these-boots-are-made-for-walkin-precincts/">Blue Army General Pach’s boots are made for walking precincts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325640</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve been working all afternoon so forgive me if this has been covered - but has anyone got info on the “prank” defense going on over at Drudge?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been working all afternoon so forgive me if this has been covered &#8211; but has anyone got info on the “prank” defense going on over at Drudge?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/05/pass-the-republi-buck/#comment-325638</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just reteurned from the barber shop, were the old repug farts hang out.I live in (republican) Missouri, As I walked in, I ask, What you guys think about this FOLEY/HASTERT mess. The only answer I got was, “it’s sickening shit”.Then, to my surprise, one of the old farts said,” the war is sure getting bad”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I couldnt believe they wanted to talk about the war.After I unloaded the NIE and Woodwards book, they decided to discuss the upcoming Octoberfest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is my first time in there since 9-11, that these old farts never wanted to talk about politics at all?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, it might be me, but I’m seeing an embrassment here that usually ain’t there?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just reteurned from the barber shop, were the old repug farts hang out.I live in (republican) Missouri, As I walked in, I ask, What you guys think about this FOLEY/HASTERT mess. The only answer I got was, “it’s sickening shit”.Then, to my surprise, one of the old farts said,” the war is sure getting bad”.</p>
<p>I couldnt believe they wanted to talk about the war.After I unloaded the NIE and Woodwards book, they decided to discuss the upcoming Octoberfest.</p>
<p>That is my first time in there since 9-11, that these old farts never wanted to talk about politics at all?</p>
<p>Now, it might be me, but I’m seeing an embrassment here that usually ain’t there?</p>
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