
(Hi, I'm Don Imus and I can't find my pen. I've been looking for it all day. Have you seen it?)
You know, of all the people on TV who make me cringe and hold my two fingers up to the TV screen while shouting, "I am CRUSHING your head!! CRUSHING your HEAD!!" (and they are legion), Don Imus is the one who seems to have the least reason to live. I mean, seriously. How did this guy manage to insert himself into the national dialogue? What laurels is he coasting on? If you know, pray enlighten me, cos otherwise I could swear that he is basically the journalistic equivalent of a case of crabs. He must have sneaked in and stowed away while something else was going on, and by the time anyone noticed him, he'd proliferated and set up residence.
What a piece of work this guy is. I find it totally baffling that he has a career at all. What niche does he ostensibly occupy? Is he Howard Stern for pinheads who are too cheap to shell out for satellite radio? Is he Hannity's drunk, coked-up uncle? A poorly programmed refugee from Westworld?
Let's start with the hat.
Anyone who works in radio knows that you don't go anywhere near a live mic without your headphones. So, does Imus take off the hat, put on his phones and then put the hat back on? How stupid is that? Headphones and a cowboy hat? But see, I have actually known some real cowboys in my life. (Stop snickering, Teddy. You too, *ilson! Only two of those were in the biblical sense.) Men who work with actual horses and cattle, who spend the bulk of the day working outside, and who have never had a personal assistant, an agent, or a makeup artist. And do you know what the first thing those men do when they come inside is?
THEY TAKE OFF THEIR GODDAMN HAT!
It's not just a gesture of respect, although for the cowboys I've known (none of whom call themselves by the sobriquet "cowboy", by the way), politeness is one reason to doff your hat, but mainly because those hats are not for ornamentation. They're to keep the sun, rain, and wind off your face and neck. There's not a whole lot of sun, wind, and rain in a heavily air-conditioned Manhattan studio, I'm thinking. Really. It's like he's wearing snow shoes in Key West.
Personally, I think that when li'l Donny Imus was nine, his mother told him he couldn't wear his Roy Rogers costume to school, and that got our boy Don pretty steamed. He's been out for revenge ever since. But hey, you think the hat looks stupid, you should see him giddy-upping into the studio each morning astride his broomstick horsie and wearing a pair of cap pistols slung on his belt. Uh, yeah. Git along, Li'l Doggies, to the SOUNDSTAGE! Yeeeeeee-HAW!! It's showtime at the ol' Boom Mic Corral!
But aside from his ridiculous sartorial choices, there are LOTS of other reasons to hate Don Imus. Not only do Republican politicos like Joe Lieberman stop by his show to get a slow-motion hand-job while they crack wise about torture, but some of the most sewer-redolent rhetoric of the past few years, particularly toward women, has emanated from Imus and his proxies.
To wit, on the subject of abducted REAL journalist Jill Carroll, upon her release:
Morning frat-jock Don Imus's producer Bernard McGuirk said that "She may be carrying Habib's baby," and that "She strikes me as the kind of woman who would wear one of those suicide vests. You know, walk into the — try and sneak into the Green Zone." [VIDEO].
Imus just kept saying "no no no no" and "I'm gonna come over there and beat you up" but he was giggling and clearly wasn't offended by the remarks, saying only that "the official position, of course, of the program is that thank God, uh, correspondent Jill Carroll of the Christian Science Monitor has been released…" (ThinkProgress)
Nice, huh? Classy. But how about this from Wikipedia?
Racism, misogyny and homophobia
Imus and his crew, Charles McCord, Bernard McGuirk and Chris Carlin are frequently accused of racism, misogyny and homophobia. Imus referred to sports columnist Bill Rhoden as a "New York Times quota hire" and PBS anchor Gwen Ifill as a "cleaning lady".[5] Imus has repeatedly referred to Arabs as "ragheads."[6]
I do believe that it is worth pointing out here that Imus himself almost never has the stones to say the most egregious bullshit. He always gets one of his surrogates to say it while he sits there and chuckles and puts up a tiny, insignificant, symbolic protest, "Oh-ho-hooo, Bernard! That's going too far!" But then he has the same bunch of dipshits on the next day, of course, to spew more swill.
Why is this shit allowed to go out over the air? Why hasn't someone beaten him to death with one of his fake cactus set props and fed his corpse through a wood-chipper? Can I? Pretty please?
You can peruse a massive gallery of Imus's gaffes over at Media Matters, but be warned. It won't be good for your blood pressure. Imus and his sycophantic toadies seem to be in a headlong race to the bottom rung of the political discourse. No remark is too pissy, petty, bitchy, tawdry, or small to get edited off of "Imus in the Morning". No wonder he supports Joe Lieberman. They're two peas in an egomanical, arrogant, supercilious little pod and heartily deserve each other's company.
The only question for me is how they can fit Joe's ego in the same studio with Don's AND the giant hats. Maybe that's why they say such stupid shit, you know? Lack of oxygen in that tight little space.
Well, hopefully, when the revolution comes, we'll finally rid ourselves of "Imus in the Morning", even if we have to shave our body hair and boil all of our clothes and bedding to do it. It would be a real hassle, but if you ask me, totally worth the trouble.
Thank you and good night.



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Fitz
JUSTICE, damn it.
Maybe that’s why they say such stupid shit, you know? Lack of oxygen in that tight little space.
en fuego tonight, my koi-toting friend.
I think it’s his voice. It’s deep, rich baritone. Sort of like an old piece of furniture.
Heck if I know. A lot of things about modern American life baffle me. Madonna, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? Survivor. Bill O’Reilly. Nancy Grace. These things are beyond my comprehension. My family calls me a snob. I just say I’m picky.
But in any case, the world of news/entertainment seem to have a quota to fill for mediocre, talentless, white males. Think Regis Philbin. What did Regis ever do that was worthy of a daytime talk show? Beats me. I never watch.
In fact, the world of television doesn’t really cater to my tastes much anymore and I’m not that old.
Go Figure.
Time for me to go to sleep. I am clearly losing my sense of humor, first upthread to ask someone not to make a joke about Tourette’s Syndrome, and now to kindly ask that we not advocate, despite great temptation, beating anyone to death. This is what the right does. We correctly feel they should not be advocating violent death of judges, political opponents, etc. We are better than that, yes?
And so to sleep.
Jane Hamsher @
3
Humph. I’d rather have Sashimi.
Jane Hamsher @ 3
Thank you, My Lady. I live to serve.
As annoying as all these assholes are, they are part of the entertainment industry. People like him, like Coulter, like O’Reilly, et al, are nothing more than entertainment shills keeping our minds off the fact we are in a war. And we fall for it. robert
OKAY, FINE.
WE’RE AT WAAAAAAAAAAAR!! IT’S WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!! IT’S A WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!! OH, FIE!! FIE UPON ME!! I SHALL WRITE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE EVER!! JUST THE WAR!! OH, WORLD PAIN!! OH, AGONY AND MISERY FOR EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
There, carwinrpc. Satisfied?
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Actually, here in Little Texas, there are mostly drugstore cowboys, and they never take off their cowboy hats….
M’self, I think it’s because they’re pinheads, and they think the hats make their heads look bigger… could be Imus’ rationale, too. :)
David Rakoff is doing so fine tonite with Jon Stewart…
LOL
Goddamn right, TRex. Hear, hear. There is nothing more sickening and pathetic than how our supposed, uh, shit, whatever you want to call fuckwits like Maureen Dowd and Howard Fineman, wake up early to suck up to this worthless sack of variety meats. To Hell with them all.
He’s really just as stupid as he looks. The fake cowboy bit is, well, fake. But apparently he fills a niche, squeezed in alongside other ugly, unappetizing, spewing freaks like Coulter who manifest the worst elements in human nature, which they pass of as “guts” or “candor” or “humor.”
portia.vz @
4
Yeah, but it’s trapped behind that deviated teflon septum and vodka-tinged glottal mucus, yearning to break free.
dr nobody @ 13
Amen!!
MoDo has her own set of issues with men in positions of power. She’s never gotten over being Daddy’s Little Princess. All she knows how to do is flirt. And she’s not even all that good at that.
mamazboy @ 13
are you talking about imus or bush?
or george allen?
The most baffling apsect of Ass In A Hat is the beautiful, dedicated woman who is his wife.
p-rex @ 17
or george allen?
haha beat me to the punch, angie!
OMG, darkblack, you just used the word “glottal”. Will you marry me?
I remember when Imus lived in Greenwich, CT and was on NY radio. Howard Stern worshiped Imus. Of course, at the time, Imus was a drunk and a coke head.
I’m with you, TRex – I can take about two seconds of Imus and his wingnut skinhead sidekick Bernie McGeek and then I start to stroke out.
And yet…Kerry, Edwards, and many others feel it’s necessary to go talk to Imus. Is it some macho guy thing that compells guests to sit there laughing at Imus’ pathetic, destructive “banter?”
(And I don’t care how much charity work his young wife does – it doesn’t offset the damage Imus does.)
I’ve been trying to figure out what the appeal of Imus has been. Wikipedia wasn’t a big help. Howard Stern is occasionally somewhat funny and he has a sense of the absurd. Imus doesn’t seem to have even these qualities.
Oh TRex- your worldly knowledge informs your posts, in a way not often seen. And, your turn of phrase is par to none.
he is basically the journalistic equivalent of a case of crabs
Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imus was the proto-Stern. Now he’s out to stud in the grassy West.
And he’s doing great work, actually. He has this kid’s camp. Cuz God knows, this side of Foley, a mumbling Imus is what a kid needs in his or her life.
But I diverge. He’s doing great work with those kids. Hitch them up to plows and you save on farm machinery. And they don’t eat as much as a horse. So they’re the perfect answer to farm costs. And what great yields in the fields. Fresh air, honest work, contact with Imus. Isn’t that the American dream?
TRex @ 22
Was that the secret word? What did I win?…Other than your hand, of course.
Besides which, you’d be two-timing Howie K.
(insert word rhyming with ‘ramp’ here)
;>)
In the time of the monarchy, crowns were never removed in public. The tradition of doffing hats started as a way to enforce the chain of comand in the court and show respect.
Perhaps Imus views his cowboy hat as an American crown, and never removes it becuase he thinks he’s king of his perverse little world.
And wasn’t it Imus who inspired the term
???
good post, TRex, you’ve pretty much encapsulated what i’ve been thinking about imus for a long time — who in the hell IS this guy, and how did he get a job spewing his opinions on public airwaves?
does anyone else find the “witty repartee” between tweety and imus a bit weird, or just annoying?
p-rex– you set it up beautifully!
Great post TRex.
Yup, carwinrpc, that’s the key to this conundrum. Why do these slobbering, mindless idiots end up on TeeVee? Because the TV producers honestly think they have to put stupid clowns on to make us laugh and nod and get us just as stupid; and bleached bubble-blonds with half an inch of makeup on CNN to report incredibly simplified non-news…because they want us lulled into a hypnotic state so they can sell us…cars! Insurance! Viagra! Storm windows! Beer! And all of it in 30 to 60 second entertainment packages.
I mean, if they engaged our minds, we’d turn the stupid thing off when some fat-assed truck thing was shown plowing up the most beautiful wilderness and parking on the edge of the Grand Canyon. “Huh?” We’d ask…”this is bullshit!” and we’d turn it off and turn to our Internet blogs. Or Goddess help us all, we’d start writing the news analysis ourselves!
So give ‘em clowns and pretend journalists delivering pretend news and made-up entertainment “news” and hope they’ll get hooked on this drivel like a candy machine dispensing free meth.
The idiots sell stuff, that’s they’re job, and that’s so holy a goal that they’ll change the state of reality to do it. And America, bless it’s undereducated little heart, eats this shit up.
Oh, damn, sorry, I forgot where I was. Of course we know all this. That’s why we’re here.
TR, I’ve said it before, but you sure can write.
I don’t know what’s with Imus except he’s found a way to make a good living. I listened to him way back and heard him say something like “If they want to pay me to swear/yell obscenities” (I don’t remember exactly) “I’ll swear/yell obscenities.” He and his wife have a working ranch where kids with cancer or who have had a sibling die may visit and participate for a week. Mrs. Imus has funded a pediatric oncology department in a New Jersey medical center. She has funded the formulating and manufacturing of green cleaning products for hospitals and other facilities.
I remember when Imus lived in Greenwich, CT and was on NY radio.
Mm-Hmm, me too. About the time he became one of my first signs of the coming Apocalypse.
dab from CT @
23
I had a friend in high school whose claim to fame was that she beat up Imus’s daughter in elementary school.
He blows, and has since he started. Stern kicked his ass all over the place for 20 yeas, and he wasn’t even as good as Soupy fuckin’ Sales.
darkblack @ 27
Sigh.
Howie isn’t returning my calls. I don’t think I’m good looking enough for him.
angie @ 30
well, i gotta give the hat tip to mamazboy, because this is truly something i’ve been saying for a long time — people called poppy bush a wimp, and wimpy chimpy wouldn’t stand for that, EVER.
enter image consultants: how to turn an ivy league, silver spoon cheerleader into a man’s man? teach him to drawl and top it off with a cowboy hat.
seems like imus might be using the same formula…
I don’t understand the appeal of these odd people i.e. Imus, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, O’Reilly, etc. I have had minimal exposure to these personalities, I rarely turn on the TV and I avoid their web video’s. I find them unsettling and disturbing – but then I never liked the three stooges either.
What is it that makes them so popular, or are they really so popular? They are awful people. Who would want to be in the same room with them. Who can even stand these disgusting tiny fools.
I contrast this with the very careful and respectful way that Jon Stewart deals with Trent Lott or Rick Santorum, for example. Stewart never fails to make his point, but without grossly insulting his guest.
So do good works that help a few compensate sufficiently for evil deeds that hurt potentially millions? I dunno. Sounds vaguely schizoid to me.
A few minutes ago, I was faced with a choice.
Often, I sit in front of my computer, reading the latest posts and comments on FDL. Sometimes, I also have my TV on, over to the side of the room. Tonight, at 8:03 p.m., just as Stephen Colbert’s show (one of three shows on TV that I actually like to watch) was getting started, TRex posted his piece on Don Imus.
Although often able to multitask, which I tried for a few minutes to do, I found it impossible this time. Both FDL and Colbert were compelling. Too compelling, in fact, to allow me to focus on both simultaneously. I had to make a choice.
I chose to ignore the TV, and read what TRex had to say about this disgusting beast Imus.
I was not disappointed.
Never mind, TRex. He will be sorry. Close one door, another one opens.
Actually, Imus puts on this cowboy sage routine in NYC, not Burbank (sorry, TRex). I still laugh when I remember him saying what a “terrific” choice Bernard Kerik was to head up DHS. Even funnier was the fact that Imus based his opinion on having met Kerik at a few NYC cocktail parties.
hpschd @ 37
These people have gotten where they are the same way Hitler did, by selling a bunch of lies to a frightened and dispirited populace. Works every time. But the bill always hits the table.
Check, please!
Imus is the posterboy of the wingnuts. What else can you expect?
Cujo359 @ 24
Sort of an Horatio Alger ‘everyman’ thing …Joe Dialtwister dreaming that he, too could soak his brain in coke and vodka like it was a set of dentures at night and nonetheless get limoloads of cash and a spouse to make him look presentable, whilst peeing in phone booths and mumbling about Moby Worm
;>)
Jesus! Wasn’t he some crappy ’70’s disc jockey?
Why is he still around? Because shit floats.
Well, at least we can thank Imus for his candid interview with Lieberman, or rather, his allowing JOey to speak his “mind”.
That reminds me–I’m trying to find a producer for an ice-dancing adaptation of “Brokeback Mountain”…
Oh, and speaking of fascists, our old friend Tacitus (aka Josh Trevino) has hung his dunce cap on the lowest peg and retired from the world of blogging.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T EVERYBODY CRY AT ONCE!!
TRex, it’s Howie we should feel sorry for, missing out on all that witty post-coital banter…
Perhaps Imus views his cowboy hat as an American crown, and never removes it becuase he thinks he’s king of his perverse little world.
Prospero as irredentist Euro-American male.
Wait a minute, that’s roughly what Prospero was …
You realize that Imus is buds with Kinky Friedman, the guy that is running as a joke candidate in Texas in a campaign run by Jessie Ventura’s people.
(Some people actually like Kinky, but he is a joke, and Molly Ivins laid into him the other day, which was nice to see.
Kinky’s only platform – casinons for education. I shit you not.
Anyway, yes, Imus sucks, which is why he has not grown out of the spot he has been stuck in for years.
THE Amy Goodman on Colbert.
You forgot to point out the most egregious broadcasting sin Imus is guilty of:
He’s fucking BORING!
James Wolcott’s commentaries on Imus are right on point, and hilarious to boot. I think he includes some of them in his book “Attack Poodles.”
angie @ 52
Not just AN Amy Goodman. (They come in six-packs, you know….)
Valley Girl @ 41
Isn’t that called a haunted house?
I absolutely agree that Imus and his cronies are a disgusting disgrace, and should be sent away for numerous areas of rehab somewhere… perhaps at the old ranch, with no microphones and cameras ever again. But I’m also distressed when our side starts to talk about beating people to death. That kind of stuff should belong only to Ann Coulter types.
EvilDrPuma @ 47
Can we call it “Prairie Homo Companion”? I think that hits just the appropriate notes and I’ve been wanting to use it for months.
Hugh @ 54
omigod!!!!! you got me on that one!!!!! Hugh, you are a treasure at FDL.
TRex @ 57
Sounds good, and it may save us a copyright infringement suit.
TRex- you have a warped mind. Thank god.
EvilDrPuma @ 54
heh!
She is a very special voice– a voice of conscience. She managed to pack a lot into her few minutes with Colbert!
Her show would be a fine replacement for Imus and his gang of idiots.
The ” Ass in the Hat” thinks he’s a moderate yet he has a skinhead (McGuirk) as his producer. He is a suck up to the right, especially to St. McCain. He was a professed Kerry supporter yet stabbed him in the back at every turn.
Imus is a righty tool and needs to be ignored.
His pathetic paens to Loserman show him as the pathetic loser that he is.
Imus is not good people, despite his stupid hyperexpensive ranch.
Bon Soir LNFDLers,
I must go help the wife/MBA student with a paper as penance for meddling in her affairs in concern over a particular habit she has.
Sadly, it’s true. Well, now that I’ve said far too much, I take my leave.
THEY TAKE OFF THEIR GODDAMN HAT!
???
Actually, Seor Rex, this isn’t necessarily the case. In fact, a cowboy hat is often exempted from this tradition, and these days most gimme caps as well. My wife deplores this state of affairs, but it is so.
On the other hand, Imus no more deserves to wear such a hat — even if he does own property down my way — than Bush deserves a Good Conduct Medal, so feel free to rail all you want.
I’m not defending Imus, but you linked to his Wiki, where, if you actually read it, lots of your questions are answered. I was a big fan when I lived in NYC. He was actually pretty funny as a DJ on WNBC-AM in the 1970’s. So he’s been around a long time and has lots of friends in high (and low) places.
He wears the hat cause he’s bald.
He’s a jerk cause he’s an alcoholic and drug addict.
He’s an asshole cause of the above, coupled with the fact that he makes a shitload of money.
TRex @ 49
‘Greater things are believed of those who are absent.’
;>)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..38;search=
For you, TRex- great fiddle Mark O’Connor.
I remember back in New Jersey (New York radio and TV), years 1974-76, Don Imus was the morning guy then, and he was always outrageous…ly funny, for the most part. But then toward the end of our “association” (either he quit WNBC or we left NJ for DC), I vividly recall that he showed up on the air, in the very early morning, AS DRUNK AS A SKUNK and slurring his words bigtime. And from what people said, the only way he could have even been awake was by doing Cocaine.
You can live some things down, but you really can’t live it down when you’re snorting at Studio 54 every night and have a limo drive you to the station at 4 AM a few times a week…
…And then show up on radio/TV 30 years later as if you’ve always been a church-going tee-totaler. I mean, hey. Who goes to work drunk and stoned? Who goes on the air in New York drunk and stoned?
And then plays the God-fearing conservative years later, without paying the piper along the way?
omigod!!!! I am now a YouTube addict. Please indulge me all– Johnny Cash and more and more!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..38;search=
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for validation of my over the top, sick-making revulsion of Imus on the rare occasion that I’ve ever flipped the channel there accidentally.
fuck that loser imus — just another nasty little rascist prick.
GO WATCH KEITH OLBERMANN HERE & YOUR HEART WILL BEAT FASTER!
He was a professed Kerry supporter yet stabbed him in the back at every turn.
Really good knife work is easier if you first move in close.
portia.vz @
4
the guy is a freaking piece of shit, anyone who listens to him is a moron…
Cleanup on aisle 75.
Evening,
just a quick hit and run. Unfortunately, the reason Imus is on is because an audience exists for the kind of shit he shovels. Goes for a lot of these types who see Ramadan as a target rich environment.
They do need what you are serving here, a healthy and unrelenting dish of steaming ridicule. Keep it up.
And if Lady Jane reads this, I owe you one. Thanks again. G’nite.
Well basically it’s a time capsule. If you want to know what passed for suburban hip in 1962 listen to Imus. Before Kennedy assasination, befor Viet Nam. I guarantee you Firedoglake is as strange and repulsive to many of Imus’s listeners as he is to you.
It’s the second greatest generation syndrome. Too young for WWII and too old or chicken shit for Viet Nam. We’re almost dad, they all think, except we can travel to where nothing is sacred and be very very hip in their minds. Russert, Buchanen, Joementum. It’s the closest they’ll ever come to danger. It’s the Jerry Lewis telethon in a raunchy bar, now without the alchohol. It’s not schtick. He’s married to Barbie for Christ sake.
My greatest fear is that our radio waves are leaking out into the galaxy, and when the technologically advanced aliens tune into the likes of Imus and Limbaugh they are going to vaporize the Earth.
EvilDrPuma @
77
Someone already did it. Oh, EvilDrPuma- I am still looking for another Johnny Cash fan! Pleeze? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..38;search=
global yokel @ 80
Luckily for the rest of us, they probably won’t. They’ll just ignore the whole damned planet, thereby proving their superiority once and for all.
Valley Girl @ 81
Have to try it another time…I’m on my dialup connection at home, not the lab high-speed.
Something terrible has happened to Imus.
I grew up in NJ, listening to Imus in the Morning. Was entertaining. Not right wing at all, I think, since I was a liberal starting at about age 12. Don’t know what happened to the guy. Was he always this weird and I just didn’t get it? Or did he “turn?” Maybe he has become possessed. I think that’s it. Poor Imus.
global yokel @ 80
Oddly, I worry about this, too.
EvilDrPuma @ 83
EDP- I understand- I finally gave it up, and got DSL at home, last week. Don’t know what took me so long!!!
TRex? Can you indulge me? (This is not totally OT, btw).
I just saw this at the BBC site: Justin Webb identified as the BBC’s chief North American radio correspondent:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/
There you have it, folks, even if the Democrats win they lose. Good to see, Justin arrived early to get his talking points from Karl Rove. Who says all the shills for this Administration are from WaPo and the NYT? I think it’s time we acknowledge the contributions of others, from our friends across the water, to the Mighty Wurlitzer.
BTW the going up in flames bit he attributes to a former Clinton WH staffer whom he doesn’t name because . . . why was that again, Justin? You do know, I hope, that Clinton has been out of office for nearly 6 years now. It’s not exactly like we’re talking background briefings on current policy by SAOs or is it one of the those cases of British reserve, you know respecting one’s right to anonymous weaselhood?
deltadawn @
76
I think that just about sums it up.
TRex @ 83
Umm, don’t worry about it–they’ll simply think we’re not advanced enough a civilization to bother contacting. Previous UFO incidents were just teenagers slumming. :)
Phone call from a friend in distress. She said she had to take her teenage son over to her mom’s house today or she was going to get a retroactive abortion.
Back in a bit.
Previous UFO incidents were just teenagers slumming. :)
But why did they do that to the cows?
TRex @ 93
It was a mistake. They saw all the bullshit and thought they were exsanguinating right-wing radio jocks.
I’ve never watched or listened to Imus, so I don’t have much to offer on this thread. However, I want to make an observation and a prediction (and maybe get some feedback) before heading to bed.
Observation:
I am struck by the blame game now being played in Iraq. We have had substantially more than 100,000 well-armed, (comparatively) well-equipped, well-fed, and (comparatively) well-rested soldiers in country for years now, and we have not been able to stem the violence. We disbanded the Iraqi army. We are training replacement security forces, but that takes time. In this context, it is really quite ridiculous for Rice or anyone else to be complaining that the Iraqis need to “step up” and “take control” of the situation. It’s something akin to asking that knight from MP and the Holy Grail to keep the peace, after cutting off his arms and legs. What is the Iraqi army supposed to be doing to get control of the situation we created? Bleed on the insurgents?
Prediction:
In keeping with the clear precedents he has laid down over the last six years, Bush will emasculate whatever thin protections against abuse of detainees might remain in the Military Commissions Bill — Congressional oversight provisions, requirements to make definitions of torture public, etc. — with the signing statement. He will, on Monday, get everything he wanted on this front, because no one is willing to stand up to him.
I find it more than a bit ironic that at the same time Amy Goodman is being played and re-played on Comedy Central, TRex and fdl are obsessing on one of the creepiest people to have polluted the airwaves in the past 75 million years.
I mean, does Imus remind you of somebody, TRex? From the old days?
Seriously, uh……FDL should start placing Democracy Now over on the left-hand column as a quick link.
global yokel @ 79
Not to worry.
The carrier wave goes out strong but the superimposed signal gets garbled before it gets to the nearest star.
The broadcasts that SETI is looking for are digitized bursts of a single frequency.
Hi ET–
and I think MSNBC should replace I(gnora)mus with Amy! That would be a really, really good thing for this country and world.
She was fantastic (as usual) tonite.
deltadawn @
76
Welcome, Deltadawn.
Uh, what’s that flower you’ve got on, etc, etc?
hpschd @ 95
But wait…
I’m not sure about the new digital broadcasts – let’s hope they don’t get cable.
Bill @
93
Click…you lost me.
Planet check, please.
And thus he will have it taken away, like a desired toy from a petulant child. But taking it away shall be.
Two words:
wood shed
;>)
TRex @ 90
Nah, don’t think that was extraterrestrials… more like neo-conservatives. Note that they had a distinct preference for the animals’ assholes….
And Amy has a new book out and is on tour…..
check the linky for more including tour dates and locations.
http://tour.democracynow.org/
I’ve never heard (or seen) Democracy Now! And I work at a public radio station. We carried it for about three weeks before the soft left and hard right underwriters started to get nervous and we had to pull it. That was before I came to the station.
Oh, TRex– it is truly a gift in this wilderness.
You can stream audio and video or just read transcripts! Just go to the website and do yourself a favor– you will be so glad you did!
DB @ 100:
Compared to the Iraqi army, which is riding around in the back of pick-up trucks, without body armor and with no R&R, no rotations, no heavy weapons, our forces are incomparably more powerful.
Under these circumstance, to ask the Iraqi army to do what we can’t is really ridiculous. It is beyond absurd. Seems like the ground is being laid for the post-withdrawal disaster. “Not our fault! They aren’t willing to do the heavy lifting!” Maybe they aren’t, maybe they are; our generals testified last week (at the Democratic hearings) that the Iraqi forces were in a hopeless position, and that even when they try to hold their ground, they can’t, because we have emasculated them and diddled around with arming and outfitting them properly.
I’m guessing that after the US pulls back to some extent and all hell breaks loose, the meme will be that the Iraqis just didn’t want democracy. I find this very sad. I’m certain that the overwhelming majority of Iraqis want peace and stability. But stability isn’t an option anymore.
Thanks for the feedback. I enjoy your creations…
Ah, TRex,
My favorite Kids in the Hall character! (remember his neighbor? “There’s nobody home!”) Although the Chicken Lady is a really close second.
Imus is vile and a bully – I can’t think of anything else on that topic.
He’s part of the freak show.
Bill #94
IIRC General Shinseki stated that we would need 300,000 to 400,000 troops to secure Iraq. We never had that many troops so we never secured Iraq. Current troop levels are at around 147,000. Even at the 130,000 level they were under severe strain and the readiness of all our combat units has deteriorated significantly. American troops in the Green Zone and at some of the large permanent bases may be well fed and well rested but the conditions for those who are not are often pretty awful, a fact that doesn’t get much media play.
The Iraqi Army is essentially a fiction because there are no Iraqis. The Army is made up of Shia and Kurds whose primary allegiance is not to Iraq but to their respective parties and associated militias. This Army also has not heavy weapons or helicopters to speak of. Whichever group gets their hands on them first will dominate Iraq. It is important to note that we have not given heavy weapons to anyone ensuring that for as long as we are there no group will dominate and that the current strife will be ongoing.
I agree it was a mistake to disband the former army creating a power vacuum and leaving unemployed hundreds of thousands of men with military training and nothing else to do but join the insurgency or another militia.
The Military Commissions Bill S 3930 is unconstitutional but with the current Administration’s disregard of the Constitution and the extreme rightward tilt of the Supreme Court I’m not sure anyone cares anymore. Allowing Bush to define torture is effectively a sanction for torture and a pardon for previous torture. The two other points of the bill that are the most dangerous are the elimination of habeas corpus and the broad expansion of the definition of an unlawful enemy combatant. While American citizens can not be tried by these Commissions, they can be declared unlawful enemy combatants on fairly flimsy grounds. Such a determination would mean that they would have no habeas corpus right and so could be detained indefinitely.
Trex, can you help me with this? Did Zelikow lie or just forget?
Let us carefully set this up. Bob Woodward has written a book, “STATE OF DENIAL” describing July 10. An article in the Oct. 3, 2006, Washington Post, “TENET RECALLED WARNING RICE” by Dan Eggen and Robin Wright, tells us
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00187.html
“Former CIA director George Tenet told the 9/11 Commission that he had warned of an imminent threat from al-Qaeda in a July 2001 meeting with Condoleezza Rice, adding that he believed Rice took the warning seriously, according to a transcript of the interview and the recollection of a commissioner who was there.”
Further, “Rice acknowledged that the White House was receiving a ’steady stream of quite alarmist reports of potential attacks’ during that period”. Does alarmist mean planes flying into buildings? Eggen and Wright do not say. Eggen and Wright do say who was not told about July 10, “As recently as yesterday afternoon, both commission chairman Thomas H. Kean and vice chairman Lee Hamilton said they believed the panel had not been told about the July 10 meeting.” Who was told about it?
“But it turns out that the panel was, in fact, told about the meeting, according to the interview transcript and Democratic commission member Richard Ben-Veniste, who sat in on the interview with Tenet.” That is in Jan. 2004.
“Tenet gave testimony about the July 2001 meeting with Rice at his Langley headquarters office on Jan. 28, 2004, occasionally referring to charts and slides. Philip Zelikow, who at the time was the commission’s executive director and now works for Rice, was present along with other commission staff members, according to Ben-Veniste and to a portion of the transcript, which was read to The Washington Post by an official with access to it.”
But it would be helpful for everyone to get Tenet’s Power Point Presentation, of both the July 10 and Jan. 28 version, because , “The briefing was a summary of the threat reporting from the previous weeks,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters traveling with Rice in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia. “There was nothing new.”
But here is something new. Eggen and Wright thens say about Zelikow,
“Zelikow, who now works as one of Rice’s closest aides as a State Department counselor, did not respond to a request for comment yesterday. He told the New York Times that none of the commission’s witnesses had drawn attention to a July 10 meeting or had outlined the type of confrontation with Rice described by Woodward.”
Let us now go to the Oct. 2, 2006 New York Times, SEPT. 11 PANEL WASN’T TOLD OF MEETING, MEMBERS SAY, by Philip Shenon:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10…..dward.html
Philip D. Zelikow, the executive director of the Sept. 11 commission and now counselor to the State Department, agreed that no witness before the commission had drawn attention to a July 10 meeting at the White House or described the sort of encounter portrayed in Mr. Woodward’s book.
Mr. Zelikow said it was “entirely plausible” that a meeting occurred on July 10, during a period that summer in which intelligence agencies were being flooded with warnings of a terrorist attack against the United States or its allies.
But he said the commissioners and their staff had heard nothing in their private interviews with Mr. Tenet and Mr. Black to suggest that they made such a dire presentation to Ms. Rice or that she had rebuffed them.
“If we had heard something that drew our attention to this meeting, it would have been a huge thing,” Mr. Zelikow said. “Repeatedly, Tenet and Black said they could not remember what had transpired in some of those meetings.”
I’m listening to today’s Democracy Now right now.
Hugh @ 108
I agree. What I’m objecting to is Rice (and others) urging the Iraqis to move faster, etc. Not possible, and therefore I wonder what the point of flying over there and making statements like she did today really is. Grandstanding? Or preparing the folks back home for defeat, because of Iraqi failures, rather than our own.
Yeah, I went out to the “World Can’t Wait” march in DC today. Yawn. I counted 200 people, max, over the two hours I was there. Looks like GOTV is the order of the day, ‘coz protests sure aren’t.
Oilfieldguy @ 77
It’s clear that the lying/hating media demidemons have an audience. They appeal to prejudice, hate, fear, and somehow their logic seems intuitive to that audience.
So how do we get to THEIR audience?
hpschd @ 111
Do we want their audience? They’re not staying with me and Ned here at the safe house. NUH-UH!
Here’s my favorite news story of the day, by the way.
TRex @ 109
TRex– good for you; please know that you can pick and choose segments and also go to the archives for more. I have learned so much there and they are truly independent and beholden to nobody at all.
*sigh*
It’s a good dream she has made come alive.
g’nite all.
It’s late here. Good night.
Nice grab, TRex @ 114!
My favorite story today, too. When will they take to the streets? Camp outside the White House?
Bill @
104
Bill, when the Americans dust off, at that point the gloves get dropped and all concerned have to decide just how far they’re willing to go when there are no foreign constraints on their behaviour.
One thing I think we all can agree on is that those same above referenced parties like money more than killing each other. But time will tell.
Thank you so much
:)
you should see him giddy-upping into the studio each morning astride his broomstick horsie and wearing a pair of cap pistols slung on his belt…
that paragraph is nice refinement of your inspired riff from yesterday
Jane Hamsher @
3
never one to kow-tow with his koi-toy
punaise @ 119
the headless horseman, in a figurative sense
TRex @
113
Gadzooks!
;>)
That fellow interviewed at the tail of the tape sounded kool-aidish to me …YR spokesmodel?
the headless horseman, in a figurative sense
A Horse’s Ass, maaaaaaan.
PrIMUS: My Name is Mud
(complete with drool, bad teeth and a cowboy hat, I kid you not)
hpschd @ 110
I’m not sure you can. Not even sure you’d want to. :) But, what Imus and Limbotomy and Hannity do is articulate the rage these people feel. In a way, they give that rage legitimacy. They try to apply a faux intellectual patina to what is undifferentiated fear, an unhealthy respect for authority and some very over-the-top emotions.
They also do one other thing–they convince this minority of pathological characters that their irrational beliefs and hatreds are normal and, as importantly, are in the majority (very important to make fascists believe they are democratically-minded). So, what could one do to attract such people that wouldn’t also rationalize their beliefs? That’s why they listen to these twits in the first place.
They existed on the margins for a long, long time (Jesse Helms got his start on a tiny AM radio station in 1961, I believe). They’ve gained legitimacy because of the demise of the fairness doctrine, the rise of right wing and its funding of the megaphone, a lot of reasons. Undoing those reasons seems to me to be the only way to marginalize them again.
Holy shit!
Poison gas cloud forces NC town to evacuate!
de-lurk alert
T-rex, you rock
I haven’t missed a post on FDL since forever.
This is completely OT but as a recovering alcoholic, i’m really sick of all these republacreeps who do horrible stuff and then blame it on alcoholism. I’m new at blogging but just had to write about this tonight because i never knew an alcoholic who had a drink and said like, I’m drunk where can I find children to molest!!
Bill, Hugh, you guys are probably asleep now, but here’s nothing. If the Pentagon heads could get together right now and come up with the perfect solution to the Iraq mess to get us out of there… they would construct a secular leader with roots in the populace who ruled with an iron fist to crush the insurgency. Of course, he would only need WWII vintage artillary, so he couldn’t threaten his neighbors. And for good measure, he would have a taste for the good life, you know, a good cigar, nice digs, a fine scotch. And like western culture, listen to Frank Sinatra, …
That was Saddam Hussein, to a tee. His favorite song is (I guess was) “Strangers in the Night”, I kid you not.
But no. The sick fuck idealogue Neocons have Iraq where they want it. They don’t want order, they want chaos. They want these people to kill themselves endlessly. That’s why they won’t properly arm and train a military, because it would become a little Iran. That’s the next group they want to implode. So, Bill you are right. Rice is full of shit, to hurry these people up. She is an idiot.
Oh well, rant over.
Just saying thanks to firedogs. Night.
TRex @
22
it’s the Glottal War on Tenor
16,000 evacuated in Raleigh…wow.
:(
punaise @ 130
‘E’s sophic…Us?
;>)
colleenmilitariymom @ 129
Good to see you, Colleen!!
Keep coming back.
cameronga @ 127
Keep coming back!
*wink*
can anyone confirm the rumor floating around the right-wing blogs that Jason leopold is the owner of stopsexpredators website and that he was the one who gave the emails to CREW?
I just read that on the all these right wing blogs. Anyone know if it is true?
colleenmilitariymom @ 129
Night colleenmilitary mom – and welcome from the lurk! Don’t be a stranger, now.
lindsay @ 135
Never heard it before in my life.
But that would be kind of hilarious and sad at the same time.
Y’know, TRex – some of your writing is better than most of the rest, but this line today,
“You know, of all the people on TV who make me cringe and hold my two fingers up to the TV screen while shouting, “I am CRUSHING your head!! CRUSHING your HEAD!!” (and they are legion), Don Imus is the one who seems to have the least reason to live. I mean, seriously. “
got me to seriously wonder if you were downwind when they blew Hunter Thompson’s cremains out the barrel. Something cool from HST has flaked off onto you.
Great writing, this evening, dinodog.
Hi Trex. Sorry to go off-topic, but as a friend of Dorothy, I hope you’ll look into the Lavender Bund over at Whiskeybar. Hilary Rosen is worried about these poor boys too over at Huffingtonpost. Personally, I’d like to see this part of La Cage Aux Foley fleshed-out some more. (I’d probably rename these closet gay Republicans the Lavender Bund Kapos.) Do you think they are bachelors like Foley or maybe married like Schrock?
darkblack @ 132
tricky, ought to me
Has anyone seen this article about corporations and blogs:
Should Corporations Control Online Communications?
http://www.coanews.org/tiki-re…..cleId=1332
Very good question
ET, you are the second person in 10 hours to tell me they think I’m channelling HST. I’m not even on drugs!!
Dennis, for personal reasons, I am not writing about Foleygate anymore. I will get back into it when some of the ugliness dies down. Hope you understand.
TRex @
112
hpschd @
111
You wait. You put someone on a nearby station who has a good radio voice, and morning banter, some guests, and you build on it.
People listen to him out of habit, not because they think he’s the best thing since sliced bread. He’s a voice, with a hat, a wife, a ranch, a charity, and some mean sidekicks. He’s got a whole shtick. He’s really replaceable, IMO.
yes, TREX, it is being written about in the Ace of Spades blog, Just One Minute, Right Wing Nuthouse, NRO and Salon.com even mentioned it (although that was a roundup).
They are saying that they traced the owner of stop sexpredators to Leopold and that Leopold is connected to CREW because he does a radio show on Tuesdays and Melanie Sloan follows him.
If this is not true it and these people are making this up it shows that anything can be said of anyone and it will be taken as fact.
But i have been reading this about Leopold and I am curious if he was involved so just thought I’d check. Anyway, TREX, if you are responsible for the IMUS headline on this post you are a genius!
punaise @ 140
Add it, us.
You view L.A.?
;>)
“The briefing was a summary of the threat reporting from the previous weeks,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters traveling with Rice in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia. “There was nothing new.”
So, by July 10 the principals had already become accustomed to hearing “alarmist” assessments from the Director of Central Intelligence, and yet nothing appears to have flowed down from any of their offices. Yeah, I need some help with that, too.
When was the last time gasoline dropped 85 cents in 3 weeks?
-GSD
GSD @ 147
The last time the Reich Wing wanted something.
darkblack @ 145
and that’s where my limited knowledge of anatomy comes screeching to a halt. plum stumped. I don’t have the slightest clue what that’s supposed to mean…:~)
prostratedragon @ 148
So Tenet and his people at CIA were concerned about the lack of response from the administration to the warnings of terrorist threats that CIA had been sending them, and went to Rice to rub her nose in it and say, look, this is serious, why aren’t you paying attention. And Rice said, (sticking fingers in ears)lalalalala, I’ve heard it all before, nothing new here, move along. Let’s go shopping!
I suppose you two find this humerus. Patella me another one.
prostratedragon:
There is a lot more, but my post was getting too long. I could easily do a longer article. The neocons do not want to reveal they had warnings of plane crashing into buildings in 2001.
Zelikow is really evil-see his wiki.
punaise @ 149
‘I know no-think’
;>)
neurophius @ 150
I am cautious about ANYTHING involving Tenet. He’s a wind-sock, a liar, and a sleazebag. Maybe that’s what they did, or maybe they’re trying to throw Condi under the bus.
GSD @ 148
I don’t know,… I was looking at the Prius, but now I may hang on to the Suburban til she needs another tune-up…
bunnypants @
66
I can’t let that screen name go by, unheralded
As I said the other night, tell Mayor Nagin to fire up all of those buses in New Orleans, they are going to need them in DC for all of the Republicans to push each other in front of.
-GSD
punaise @ 156
That’s one of the things I call Juan Carlos, Napoleon Bunnypants. Bunnypants, do I know you in real time?
lindsay @
135
Lindsay- you need to go the website, and read all of the posts from start to finish. I have done so, and can’t imagine anyone reasonable coming to that conclusion. Have read all of the posts there?
http://stopsexpredators.blogspot.com/
TRex @
151
make no bones about it: I cannot fibula
Umm, this may seem off-topic, but, really, it’s not. Imus is the metaphorical subject of this video.
And all the Molly Ivins fans get to see and hear her, too.
:)
punaise @ 161
this is gettin’ tibia good one….
kirk murphy @ 162
I’m hip to that. socket to me, I’ll shoulder the blame
kirk murphy @ 163
I think I’d better go bone up on my Latin.
neurophius @ 165
Zygote, when you can stay and read on-line?
Taking a break from a little pre harvest moon watching while the ginger bread bakes. About to dive into Andy Sterns book for sundays salon.
When I discovered blogs last spring I was (and remain) amazed at the lack of reference to Democracy Now, both the television show and web site have a wealth of info. I guess it’s just another sign of how far right the left has been thwarted.
I must stop thinking about this radio compost persona. Does he have ratings above single digits? Perhaps NBC doesn’t even want competition (of their own) against the today show.
hot ginger bread mmmm
p.s. good one with prImus punaise
Wow, TRex, Stephen King has a post up about Nancy Grace.
yeah!
darkblack @
132
the last throats of the insurance gents, see?
punaise @ 164
i’d add on, septum running out of terms….
These puns are BAD.
This thread has become a coccyx waste site!
TRex
Oilfieldguy @ 77
montag @ 124
Margot @ 143
thanks, good thoughts
‘nite
hpschd
kirk murphy @ 169
in case of disaster, FEMUR will step in
(time to clip this ziggurat)
If you don’t cool it I’ll have to scapula.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 166
thanks – had to dig deep for that one
I have less skeletonatomy than you guys do.
I should take it like a mandible.
TRex @ 174
you’re getting all sternum on us….
TRex @ 170
off to prison with the lot of ‘em. sigh: Attica
Pay attention, guys. TRex is a digital wonder.
back to the X-Files: Scully. oh, sis….
punaise @ 173
punaise, you are an auricle…
Valley Girl @ 179
he can take the ribbing
Don’t make me tell you all to suck my cochlea. I don’t mean to stirrup trouble.
You guys are cracking me up with these puns! Keep ribbing each other, ‘kay?
Phalangists
;>)
punaise @ 183
But, unlike some DINOs we know, does he have a spine?
you are an auricle…
delve I not into prognostications, however
punaise- you are my favorite cuteycal.
TRex @ 184
TRex, that’s so abdominal of you!
neurophius @ 187
Joe know who I mean?
We’re a bunch of left wing clavicles.
Valley Girl @ 189
curses, soiled again…
kirk murphy @ 189
Liver?
I don’t even know ‘er!
Valley Girl @ 188
he just lumbars along
curses, soiled again…
Well, that Depends.
TRex @ 196
Dear Diary: Uh…
TRex @ 192
how jejunum…
Not to hammer home a point, but
Oh. Gee …
“Zelikow, who now works as one of Rice’s closest aides as a State Department counselor, did not respond to a request for comment yesterday. He told the New York Times that none of the commission’s witnesses had drawn attention to a July 10 meeting or had outlined the type of confrontation with Rice described by Woodward.”
Wow, man. Now you’re on the commission investigating a deeply tragic and mind-numbingly dramatic event that is known the world over by its September 11 date. Yet, you need someone to draw your attention to the fact that an advisory briefing on, you know, sort of the possibility of such an event was held two months but for a day before. And you say that, had the original presentation been livened up with some jazz (apologies to jazz, a music for all occasions which I love) about carport ambushes, then perhaps it would have rung a bell when you went to co-ordinate the report.
UmmHm. Now, I suspect there’s plenty of this guilt stuff here to go around—I’m not even sure my own conscience should be clear, so I know there’s no way the DCI, NSA, SOD, SOS or POTUS should be blithely striding forth under the banner of the nation. And I do think that Rice deserves to have to kick them off her when that bus appears on the horizon, ’cause she’s supposed to be the interface between POTUS and the NS information he needs. But Ashcroft! and, you’re right TRex, Tenet! and whoever decided to plug up the CIA channel, which actually I doubt was Tenet.
You can go sentence by sentence through that Zelikow article and find statements greatly inferior to silence, but I’ll stop and lumbar along now.
it’s getting late. think I’ll pour myself a kneecap.
The right had its Mighty Wurlitzer,
The pups have their Awesome Organs…
(but strictly in the non-Foley sense, natch…)
night firepuns….
Are you ankle-ing for an award or something?
later, kirk murphy
We are all just pupils….
(This is darkblack’s fault with that glottal reference, isn’t it?)
TheOtherWA @ 201
careful or you’ll be denied a wrist of habeus corpus
Aorta know better than to stay up this late…
mutzali @ 206
if you need to get something off your chest, just ventricle down economics
Prostratedragon:
Every time I look I find more lies related to Z. He did make a mistake in 2004 revealing CIA warned about planes into buildings in the US. I also just discovered Carpetbagger which I had not seen before. Condi denied hearing about planes into buildings. What a liar, but Zelikow is worse. Night..
I am a little tired for now though. Maybe more tomorrow. http://www.thecarpetbaggerrepo…../8634.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2098861/
…ventricle down economics
My head just exploded. Punaise takes the round.
Whew!
Good to have you back, my fine punning friend!!
punaise- you are my cutey, cal.
TRex @ 209
yeah,let’s quit while we’re a head :~)
punaise @
208
Aw, shit. I jump to the end, and this is the first think I see!
Anyone hear about Foley losing his bookmark? He just bent the page over.
You know, I can tell you guys my favorite comment ever at FDL without looking.
It was after I put up the Kos the Kingpin post where I laid out the conspiracy that connected FDL to Kos to Ralph Reed and through him to Hastert and Abramoff. One of the first comments up was, “My tin-foil hat just caught fire!!”
Something about that just cracked me up.
I wish I could remember who said it.
Valley Girl @ 210
in groan, n’est-ce pas?
punaise @ 212
But punaise, you’re so skullful at it. Don’t hold back…
Know what Foley and Old Navy have in common?
They both have little boys’ pants half off.
SteveAudio @ 213
Foley is always hard at work.
TRex @ 216
Banana Republican
Foley is always hard at work.
BWAH-HAA-HAAA-HAAA-Ew.
Valley Girl @ 218
Who wood trust Foley around pages, anyway?
TRex @ 219
did you hear about his Tucks messages? Wrecked him.
Hey Steve Audio, better late to the partay than never….
punaise @ 222
You mean, wrecked IM?
punaise @ 221
…the butt grapes of wrath
OH GOD DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD?
neurophius @ 223
yeah, he’s nowhere to be found: gone AOL.
punaise @ 226
I hope he didn’t go undercover…
ewwwwww, TRex
wasn’t Prepared for that
neurophius @ 226
he’d better not be granted blanket IM-unity
Somehow during all of this, I’m reminded of an old joke, the punchline of which is:
“Bennett? Hell, broke it!”
SteveAudio @ 230
Said the dominatrix to Bill….
montag @ 231
VG – did a comment of yours just vaporise?
ether you’re with us, or ….
oops
neurophius @ 232
He was sure it was a lead pipe cinch….
punaise @ 234
Again, it’s dust.
SteveAudio @ 236
touchee! that’s the spirit
I’m spent. buenas noches, todos.
BLUH BLUH!!
BLUH!
My eyes are crossing!
It’s time for bed.
Good night, everyone. Sleep well.
not to change the subject, but, in the part of cowboy country I came from they have a riddle.Q:How are cowboy hats and hemorrhoids alike? A: Sooner later every asshole gets one…
punaise @ 233
do mean the one about playing hardballs? I deleted it. Thought I’d save myself for later.
Valley Girl @ 241
that’s
vergin’ on the ridiculousnope. won’t go there…:~)
*plouf!*
I think the dinosaur leaving is kind of like the fat lady singing.
Good night, all.
night, kidz
irishdave3 @ 239
Whoa, dude. Talk about tying the thread back together. That almost gave me whiplash. I knew there was a reason we went from cowboy hats to hemorrhoid jokes!
Okay. Now I really am going to bed.
After I eat a bowl of Lucky Charms.
TRex @ 245
Eating leprechauns late at night will give you a metallic taste in your mouth in the morning….
TRex, I understand. By the way, Calling Nancy Grace was brilliant!
TRex: don’t get your hands dirty with Imus, let others handle that…by the way Denny Hesturt has bad Saturn transits going all the way to June 07 as does the Reynolds guy and the Boener guy (majority leader)…the Reynolds guy won’t be back to the house after Jan and probably not the majority leader…watch and see, they have impossibly restricting Saturn transits…yaaaaaay!!!!!
OMG! From …
(Hi, I’m Don Imus and I can’t find my pen. I’ve been looking for it all day. Have you seen it?)
… to the end, I was laughing my ass off. Thanks, TRex!
I think he filled that valuable radio niche between too prudish for Howard Stern and too stupid for much else.
Why is he allowed to go on air? One word: MSNBC. It’s like the dumber sibling (in an entertainment value sense) of Fox. Not quite as interesting, not quite as repulsive, not quite as right-wing, but certainly not vying for the Edward R. Murrow award for journalistic excellence (except for, obviously, Keith, who is like a diamon in a sea of shit at MSNBC). This network has no idea of itself. It wants to appeal to that crossover audience that it imagines exists between Fox and CNN viewers, and utterly fails at either (and being poorly compared to CNN these days is quite a putdown, kind of like saying that you’re not as bright as Paris Hilton). And undead dessicated turds like Imus are the result, along with troglodytes like Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough and Rita Cosby. How a Keith Olbermann can be featured on the same network as these idiots is beyond me.
[whisper]
… Oh and don’t forget:
LOUIS J. FREEH FBI Director September 1, 1993—June 25, 2001. Yes, the same Louis Freeh who was thus occupied in May, 2001, according to a New Yorker profile:
Cue Mr. Warrenn in Brazil cooing, “A clean desk is an efficient desk!” I wonder whether during that time, or soon after, anyone mentioned anything that called to Freeh’s mind that last bit of unfinished business.
[/whisper]
(mutter mutter, don’t forget, whisper whisper, remember? oh yeah? You’ve got to be kidding, whisper whisper)
Oh Hi Good Morning All. (Kindof hard to sleep at night with all this buzzing going on, isn’t it? Who sleeps with vipers, wakes with vipers. No pity on BushCo here. A Pox on all their houses…)
And, best wishes for justice, the world over, followed by the peace we all desire, and the blessings of good health and prosperity.
Good morning friends!
Peace is certainly what we need. Life proves once again to be all things at once. One of my best friend’s father had a massive stroke and will not survive the weekend. Meanwhile, I will be taking little Imm to see his Grandmother (my Mom) for her 76th birthday. All of a piece.
Morning everyone.
Good photo of Reynolds sweating under Predatorgate questions.
Reynolds Resignation Watch: Day 5
OT, Someone said yesterday Mary is posting diaries at Kos. I looked under Mary, Mary4ever, Mary4now, no luck. Anyone help me out on the easiest way to find her diary?
Great comment from last night. Bold is mine.
OT, same things applies to Hastert allowing Foley to remain on the Page board.
Off to start the day!
Condolences imm on your friend’s Dad.
No better gift for your Mom than little imm.
fwiw, Foley never was on the Page Board – they were Shimkus-R, Capito-R and Kildee-D
Thanks *ilson, not sure where I picked that up.
John Casper @
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It might be Mary2002
kovie @
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Thank God for small blessings – actually, I consider Olbermann a major blessing. And every now and then Scarborough surprises me…
As for Imus’ get-up, one of my fondest childhood memories is the rhinestone-studded holster that came with the six-shooter cap gun that I got on my seventh birthday. I loved that set – and at some point I let it go. Poor Imus…
I just learned the age of consent for males in D.C. is sixteen. That’s probably why FBI is going to Florida, I assume it is eighteen there.
Sounds like nothing but, sexual harrasment charges, can be filed in DC.
Thank god I have Sirius and Stern. He may say dumb things sometimes but I think his hearts in the right place. Plus he does something Imus fails to do: entertains. I can’t even listen to Imus…the man just mumbles through everything.
Good Morning all,
And may I just say I do miss the Kids in the Hall.
I thought I was the only person who would “hold my two fingers up to the TV screen while shouting, “I am CRUSHING your head!! CRUSHING your HEAD!!”
I’ve crushed W’s head so many times now I’m surprised he’s still President.
Oh and my thought of the day. Hastert’s defense is that he did nothing wrong.
Denny, that’s not the issue. It’s that you’ve done nothing right. Can’t you see?
mc @ 265
Completely agree. Federal laws on sexual harrasment apply. It’s Denny’s responsibility to insure a safe work environment. Negligence in Hastert’s, Boehner’s, and Reynolds context is a crime.
Mornin’ Firepups.
OT – This mornings headlines here in Metro Nashville “Voter registrations faked in GOP Drive”.
They believe it was a political worker who was paid by the number of new voters registered. Glad that election worker has his/her game on.
Interesting.
Just saw Olbermann’s special comment from last night.
Murrow reincarnate, indeed.
mc @ 268
Wasn’t he awsome. Olberman is my hero!
re Imus-when I lived in the City it was an easy test when I met some guy-if they were an Imus fan, I smiled and left as quickly as possible. Saved LOTS of time…..
I live such an isolated life,lol. I’ve never heard Imus’ show,never heard of him til I began paying attention to blogs a couple years ago. Appearantly,this is one case where I wasn’t missing anything. What a maroon.
OT re:Foley. Didn’t he help craft and pass a law making it a federal crime to solicit sex from anyone under 18 online? Wouldn’t that law apply,especially since we know he was doing this from his office in the Capitol?
angry_cyclone @ 269
It’s not just his words, but the way he delivers them. No snark at all. Deadly serious.
It’s worth noting that Howard Stern has been telling his listeners what a useless sack of shit Don Imus is for over 20 years now. To compare the two is the height of hilarity.
Imus is basically an aging cokehead who parlayed his job at WNBC into a TV career. Consider him a legacy, kind of like Arthur Godfrey’s radio show on CBS being on until the 1970’s. You give an unpopular loser who used to make you a lot of money a show in a time slot where other people have better ratings, and pray that he retires.
Look at his face again….CLOSELY. I dare you to tell me that GE isn’t just hoping that he runs out the clock.
I just ‘love’ Imus’ daily support of Lieberman and Santorum! Who else but 2 bigger losers would be in his camp. MSNBC get this tripe-man off the air.
I used to listen to him. It is hard to understand his place without digging into the deep dark past. I haven’t listened to him for about ten years now. The act was getting very stale then. But go back about 25 years and there were some great moments in radio. That can’t be denied. At one time, he was the intellectual and Stern was the nosepicking buffoon.
I actually like listening to Imus even though they are frequently jerks.
It is easy background listening—It’s easy to tune him out when readng the paper and then tune back in again if they have a good guest on.
My worst Imus recollection is that he called Richard Clarke a traitor (numerous times) after he came out with his book in 2004.
Hey, what happened to a little tolerance? Don Imus IS a big schmuck, but he is also an equal opportunity offender. I like the fact that the things he says can be aired at all. So what if he supports Dick (I mean Rick) Santorum? He also supports my man Kinky Friedman. He puts a lot of time and much more money into programs and causes that help kids, especially disadvantaged kids. A self centered, egotistical prick he may be, but at least he has the balls to agree with that statement.
Trex,
What was that similie you used a couple weeks ago about shit hitting the fan or something? God, I was in a debate where it would have been perfect and I couldn’t think of it. “…something, something…. and all you’re left with is the shit.” How did than damn aphorism go???
El Hornito @
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“Sending out Dan Gerstein to do spin control for your campaign is like trying to change a diaper with a Molotov cocktail. It doesn’t do anything about the shit, and now everything’s on fire!”
Is that the one you wanted?
Imus has a direct line to Joe Lieberman. They seem to understand each other. Does there need to be another reason.
Nancy Grace and Rita Cosby aren’t any better — just different.
I’m with you, T-Rex.
I have never understood Imus’ success at all.
He is not only vile scum, he is (IMO) BORING, INCOMPREHENSIBLE vile scum.
The only part of his foul schtick that has any clarity at all, IS the vile, scummy part.
The rest is just MUD.
I normally agree with your assessment regarding Imus. But his morning in Imus in the Morning, he really told it like it is to J. D. Hayworth, that frat boy far-right congressman from Arizona. He went off on a hilarious tangent not letting the guy get his Republican Foley talking points across. Imus called him and his gang out on their hipocracy.
I was practically on the floor laughing. I hope someone links to that segment someitme soon.
See Hayworth here: http://radaronline.com/feature….._domes.php
TRex, you’ve lured me out of my “regular lurker” state with reference to Mark McKinney’s frequent skit on “Kids in the Hall”. Well done.
Oh yeah… ’bout Imus. I watched him once for about 2 minutes, and vowed to never return. He is about as appealing as watching Sean Hannity and Rita Cosby mate. (And no, I’m not into watching something like that. Ewwwwww… My eyes, my ears…)
P.S. if you haven’t seen “The Saddest Music in the World”, you must rent it. Mark McKinney and Isabella Rossellini star in it (seriously!) After reading your entertaining, snark-filled blog entries for a long time now, I have a feeling you’d be very amused by it.
The Saddest Music in the World (from Metacritic.com)
You do get tired of Imus, that’s for sure. I watched him in the morning for awhile, but have pretty much quit. You never get any real hard news from his show.
Oh yes, lightnin38 … Kinky is GREAT! “Your man” is a raving bigot. How proud you must be. But I guess if you STILL think everything must be “fair and balanced,” there is no hope left.
Here is the 2006 view of fair and balanced:
Statement 1: Bush lied.
Statement 2 balances this: Bush tells the truth.
Are you mad??????
I think as a former libertarian conservative myself, I can recognize when Don Imus became a made man.
http://www.s-t.com/daily/03-96/03-24-96/5roast.htm
He lit the fire.
Stephen Colbert did the same to George Bush, and well. When Don did it to Clinton, it was taken literally and believed by the wingnuts, and Don went ahead and kept selling it.
The difference is that the wingnuts believed Don. Stephen Colbert makes sure that you know he’s joking, unless you are so incredibly stupid you don’t know how to care for yourself.
Yup, Imus is a real fucking moron. What with his raising tens of millions of dollars for kids with autism, cancer, families of SIDS babies. Supporting Harold Ford Jr., Barack Obama. Yup. That’s a real fucking moron.
Yup, Imus is a real fucking moron. What with his raising tens of millions of dollars for kids with autism, cancer, families of SIDS babies. Supporting Harold Ford Jr., Barack Obama. Yup. That’s a real fucking moron.
Hitler gave the world the Volkswagon. Mussolini made the trains run on time. History is replete with examples of evil men who hide behind good deeds.
There’s a famous quote about good deeds and bad intentions that I can’t completely recall right now.
Imus may indeed raise money for charity — I won’t bother to investigate that claim. He’s a vile bigot who speads hate and intolerance. All the gold on earth won’t buy a man like that a place in Heaven.
Fritz @
291
You just invoked Godwin.
Regardless, if Imus is such a “vile bigot”, why do countless members of our party appear on his show and wouldn’t that make them guilty by association?
jaf @ 19
Dedicated, maybe, but beautiful ? I think she looks like a horse. And she is very provocatively dressed when she is on TV, even when kids are around, like when she is at the ranch.
A book was published in 1960 on the effects of overpopulation on the citizenry..they grow more ignorant and stupid, the media lowers their standards to cater to them; everything goes on a downward spiral. People as infantile as they are elected as their leaders…the general population as a whole has the values and IQ of a 10 year old.
I believe thats whats happening to our world and particularly the USA,
Particularly our country.
Interesting commentary on Imus – particularly as regards the hat. Reminds me of a song I heard the Smothers Brothers sing ages ago to the tune of “The Streets of Laredo”:
I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy
I see by my outfit that I am one too
I see by our outfits that we are both cowboys
If you get an outfit you can be a cowboy too.
They’re fine-fitting outfits
They’re outfitting fine-fits
They’re fine-fitting outfits -
They’re fit to be tied
If you get an outfit and I get an outfit..
In our fine-fitting outfits
We both can be misfits.
Few people posting to this site seem to really understand – just like that hideous Rush Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, et al – the Imus program is an ENTERTAINMENT program. It is ALL about RATINGS and $$$$$. Some people like Fords and others Chevys. You’d do the world better by directing your righteous indignation toward real problems, and not media entertainers.
If he took off his hat, his head would be too easily crushed. So – let us pinch his face!!!
Oh, wait, that’s just the way he looks…. ;D
(I miss KITH, too….)