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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL: &#8220;When I am King/You Will Be First Against the Wall&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: David Ehrenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ehrenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m sure they’ll replace Denny with someone solid and trustworthy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bheller1.tripod.com/roycohn.jpg&quot;&gt;Someone like THIS DUDE!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sure they’ll replace Denny with someone solid and trustworthy.</p>
<p><a href="http://bheller1.tripod.com/roycohn.jpg">Someone like THIS DUDE!</a></p>
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		<title>By: An Angry Old Broad</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Angry Old Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aww BQ,it’s easy to mix people up on the FDL threads,heck,this place moves so fast you’d have to be superhuman to keep up,lol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But yes,this is far too common,sad to say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone know if the GOP has cut funding for things like women’s shelters,programs to help abused children,stuff like that? Seems to me this is part and parcel of the environment that allowed Foley(and he is not the only one,no way would the GOP go this far to cover one fairly low on the big scale congresscritter)that would allow child predators to operate unchecked for so long.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What really disgusts me is that appearantly people have been warning kids in the page program for years about various pervs in Congress. Why in the hell were these people even being ALLOWED to have their jobs while doing this kind of thing? And,do they give the parents of these kids the same warnings? I mean,I knew politics was a sleazy bidness,but if this has been going on for perhaps decades,I have to wonder what sort of environment is there to allow it to happen over and over and over again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s so sad. This page program sounds like a really great thing and now it’s tainted by becoming a pool for child predators to fish around in. Hell,I’d love to go back to high school if I could have my classroom in the Library of Congress. And now these kids will lose faith in public service,which is another crime,even if it’s not legally so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww BQ,it’s easy to mix people up on the FDL threads,heck,this place moves so fast you’d have to be superhuman to keep up,lol.</p>
<p>But yes,this is far too common,sad to say.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if the GOP has cut funding for things like women’s shelters,programs to help abused children,stuff like that? Seems to me this is part and parcel of the environment that allowed Foley(and he is not the only one,no way would the GOP go this far to cover one fairly low on the big scale congresscritter)that would allow child predators to operate unchecked for so long.</p>
<p>What really disgusts me is that appearantly people have been warning kids in the page program for years about various pervs in Congress. Why in the hell were these people even being ALLOWED to have their jobs while doing this kind of thing? And,do they give the parents of these kids the same warnings? I mean,I knew politics was a sleazy bidness,but if this has been going on for perhaps decades,I have to wonder what sort of environment is there to allow it to happen over and over and over again.</p>
<p>It’s so sad. This page program sounds like a really great thing and now it’s tainted by becoming a pool for child predators to fish around in. Hell,I’d love to go back to high school if I could have my classroom in the Library of Congress. And now these kids will lose faith in public service,which is another crime,even if it’s not legally so.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mary #183 –&lt;br /&gt;
They must have read your comment, because they are now in full-scale damage control.  Ashcroft specifically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the Today Show at 8:48 am EDT, Meredith Viera interviewed Ashcroft, during the fluffy women’s news zone.  Anything after 8:00 am is aimed at the soccer mom crowd; you know it’s bad when they think they have to play to this crowd, behind some moving story of a multi-faith women’s kaffee klatsch and before Gene Shalit’s movie review.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reeks of desperation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She asks whether Ashcroft got a warning about a terrorist attack in advance of 9/11 from Tenet et al — and Ashcroft claims it would have nice if the AG had gotten the same briefing (believe he’s referring to the kind Rice got).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ashcroft doesn’t believe the president would knowingly lie to the public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He also doesn’t believe the Patriot Act is as controversial as people make it — 88 Senators voted for it, after all.  Yah.  Like they had much of a choice, being told a bunch of lies about sunsetting and harangued with the label “traitor” if they didn’t sign.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ashcroft believes civil liberties have been secured…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good f*cking God, Viera follows up his happy horsesh*t about the robing of statues in the DoJ.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am so embarrassed for her, she only lacked Katie’s little dimpled perky smile as she rolled over.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I’m even more embarrassed and disgusted that this moron was our attorney general for any length of time.  The only constructive, positive thing he did on our dime is recuse himself from the CIA Leak investigation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary #183 –<br />
They must have read your comment, because they are now in full-scale damage control.  Ashcroft specifically.</p>
<p>On the Today Show at 8:48 am EDT, Meredith Viera interviewed Ashcroft, during the fluffy women’s news zone.  Anything after 8:00 am is aimed at the soccer mom crowd; you know it’s bad when they think they have to play to this crowd, behind some moving story of a multi-faith women’s kaffee klatsch and before Gene Shalit’s movie review.</p>
<p>Reeks of desperation.</p>
<p>She asks whether Ashcroft got a warning about a terrorist attack in advance of 9/11 from Tenet et al — and Ashcroft claims it would have nice if the AG had gotten the same briefing (believe he’s referring to the kind Rice got).</p>
<p>Ashcroft doesn’t believe the president would knowingly lie to the public.</p>
<p>He also doesn’t believe the Patriot Act is as controversial as people make it — 88 Senators voted for it, after all.  Yah.  Like they had much of a choice, being told a bunch of lies about sunsetting and harangued with the label “traitor” if they didn’t sign.</p>
<p>Ashcroft believes civil liberties have been secured…</p>
<p>Good f*cking God, Viera follows up his happy horsesh*t about the robing of statues in the DoJ.</p>
<p>I am so embarrassed for her, she only lacked Katie’s little dimpled perky smile as she rolled over.</p>
<p>But I’m even more embarrassed and disgusted that this moron was our attorney general for any length of time.  The only constructive, positive thing he did on our dime is recuse himself from the CIA Leak investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morning gang — &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/03/from-the-department-of-you-cant-make-this-up/#respond&quot;&gt;fresh thread&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning gang — <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/10/03/from-the-department-of-you-cant-make-this-up/#respond">fresh thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Sow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Sow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BQ, relax.  No-one’s offended.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BQ, relax.  No-one’s offended.</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ya know, I think this story may go on and on… did anyone see Brian Ross last night? (I know, we are boycotting ABC, but I tuned in last night). Brian mentioned he is getting a lot of emails about more “members” and their abuses… no names named yet - I think they are waiting to confirm&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya know, I think this story may go on and on… did anyone see Brian Ross last night? (I know, we are boycotting ABC, but I tuned in last night). Brian mentioned he is getting a lot of emails about more “members” and their abuses… no names named yet &#8211; I think they are waiting to confirm</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn urban</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolyn urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My comment somehow lost in the tubes; but sorry, Angry Old Broad, my last was meant for you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Old Sow, it is really troubling how common this experience is.  And how common too, the response NOT TO TELL.   For victims of rape, incest or molestation.  The message is ingrained that somehow, these victims are to blame.  As if the crime of being raped or molested is not bad enough, then to have to suffer in silence, with a sense of shame.  And how devastating, particularly, for a child.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good Christ, to have this Drudge person out in front, openly blaming the kids involved in this crime; blaming the victims who are children - I am left speechless over this.  But this guy is VILE.  He has got to pay for these remarks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment somehow lost in the tubes; but sorry, Angry Old Broad, my last was meant for you.</p>
<p>And Old Sow, it is really troubling how common this experience is.  And how common too, the response NOT TO TELL.   For victims of rape, incest or molestation.  The message is ingrained that somehow, these victims are to blame.  As if the crime of being raped or molested is not bad enough, then to have to suffer in silence, with a sense of shame.  And how devastating, particularly, for a child.</p>
<p>Good Christ, to have this Drudge person out in front, openly blaming the kids involved in this crime; blaming the victims who are children &#8211; I am left speechless over this.  But this guy is VILE.  He has got to pay for these remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: BQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oops, I did it again (another first, my quoting a Britney Spears lyric)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sorry, I’ll stop&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, I did it again (another first, my quoting a Britney Spears lyric)</p>
<p>sorry, I’ll stop</p>
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		<title>By: Old Sow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Sow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, people are born amoral. It’s our socializing that gives birth to compassion and respect.  And that’s why we need to clean house in govt.  If being scummy is the norm at the most visible levels of power, that part of human nature is given permission to play out all over.  We can certainly all see the depths and breadths of the worst all around us!!  Let’s kick *ss and kick the b*stards out of office!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, people are born amoral. It’s our socializing that gives birth to compassion and respect.  And that’s why we need to clean house in govt.  If being scummy is the norm at the most visible levels of power, that part of human nature is given permission to play out all over.  We can certainly all see the depths and breadths of the worst all around us!!  Let’s kick *ss and kick the b*stards out of office!!</p>
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		<title>By: BQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OS and AOB,&lt;br /&gt;
oops.&lt;br /&gt;
and not surprised it ended up being true of AOB as well - as you say, way too common.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OS and AOB,<br />
oops.<br />
and not surprised it ended up being true of AOB as well &#8211; as you say, way too common.</p>
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