Comments on: See How They Run http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:13:25 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Terry Karney http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319550 Terry Karney Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:45:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319550 <p>If they get the DoJ to investigate, they can say, “I can’t comment on an ongoing investigation” and it fades, a little.</p> If they get the DoJ to investigate, they can say, “I can’t comment on an ongoing investigation” and it fades, a little.

]]> By: GreatPlainsDrifter http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319343 GreatPlainsDrifter Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319343 <p>Maybe this has already appeared, but Jeff Trandahl is still in DC–looks like timing of his departure was earlier than the ‘discussions’ with Shimkus and Foley, though:</p> <p>Washington, D.C. - September 30, 2005 - The National Fish and Wildlife Foundation announced today that Jeff Trandahl has accepted the position of Executive Director at the Foundation. Trandahl currently serves as Clerk of the US House of Representatives. He plans to assume his new position in November.</p> Maybe this has already appeared, but Jeff Trandahl is still in DC–looks like timing of his departure was earlier than the ‘discussions’ with Shimkus and Foley, though:

Washington, D.C. – September 30, 2005 – The National Fish and Wildlife Foundation announced today that Jeff Trandahl has accepted the position of Executive Director at the Foundation. Trandahl currently serves as Clerk of the US House of Representatives. He plans to assume his new position in November.

]]> By: GreatPlainsDrifter http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319341 GreatPlainsDrifter Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:41:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319341 <p>Thanks to John Yang at ABCNEWS–here’s the name of the House Clerk that was in on the discussions with Rep. Shimkus and former-Rep-Foley:</p> <p>The matter was referred to then-House Clerk Jeff Trandahl, whose office is in charge of the page program, and Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.), head of the House Page Board, which oversees it, according to a statement from Hastert’s office.</p> <p>Shimkus and Trandahl met with Foley and instructed him to stop communicating with the teenager. But it’s not clear whether there was any attempt made to find out if Foley had similar contact with any other former pages.</p> Thanks to John Yang at ABCNEWS–here’s the name of the House Clerk that was in on the discussions with Rep. Shimkus and former-Rep-Foley:

The matter was referred to then-House Clerk Jeff Trandahl, whose office is in charge of the page program, and Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.), head of the House Page Board, which oversees it, according to a statement from Hastert’s office.

Shimkus and Trandahl met with Foley and instructed him to stop communicating with the teenager. But it’s not clear whether there was any attempt made to find out if Foley had similar contact with any other former pages.

]]> By: GreatPlainsDrifter http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319155 GreatPlainsDrifter Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:03:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319155 <p>Saw someone above posting about the inconsitencies of Shimkus’ accounts about how he says he didn’t share the emails with the House (Page Committee?) Clerk and how they reviewed the matter (Shimkus and the Clerk) with Foley in April (sorry–couldn’t find source and need to get on a plane soon).</p> <p>Not sure it’s a good lead, but if it helps a reporter they should Google the clerk (don’t have his name), because someone yesterday claimed he *resigned* as Clerk in early November of 2005….sounds like a coincidence of the first order to me.</p> <p>This does look worth following up (”Wood-stein?!”)</p> Saw someone above posting about the inconsitencies of Shimkus’ accounts about how he says he didn’t share the emails with the House (Page Committee?) Clerk and how they reviewed the matter (Shimkus and the Clerk) with Foley in April (sorry–couldn’t find source and need to get on a plane soon).

Not sure it’s a good lead, but if it helps a reporter they should Google the clerk (don’t have his name), because someone yesterday claimed he *resigned* as Clerk in early November of 2005….sounds like a coincidence of the first order to me.

This does look worth following up (”Wood-stein?!”)

]]> By: GreatPlainsDrifter http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319138 GreatPlainsDrifter Sun, 01 Oct 2006 21:49:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-319138 <p><a href="#comment-318088"><em>windje @ 127 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-318050"><em>Poboy @ 90</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Repiglicans now stand for torture and perversion.<br /> <a href="http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals">http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki.....x_Scandals</a></p></blockquote> <p>I’d like to add:<br /> Gay Ole Pedophiles</p> <p>Just a few ideas on what the GOP is standing for:</p> <p>Gang of Pedophiles</p> <p>Group of Predators</p> <p>Gaggle of Perverts</p> <p>Galaxy of Pretenders</p> <p>Gallery of Pukes</p> <p>Grizzled Old Pricks</p> <p>Gauntlet of Predators</p> <p>Generals of Predation</p> <p>Gamers of Public</p> <p>Garbage of Politics</p> <p>Gods of Pusillanimity</p> <p>Globules of Purulence</p> <p>Gropers of Pubescents</p></blockquote> windje @ 127

Poboy @ 90

Repiglicans now stand for torture and perversion.
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki…..x_Scandals

I’d like to add:
Gay Ole Pedophiles

Just a few ideas on what the GOP is standing for:

Gang of Pedophiles

Group of Predators

Gaggle of Perverts

Galaxy of Pretenders

Gallery of Pukes

Grizzled Old Pricks

Gauntlet of Predators

Generals of Predation

Gamers of Public

Garbage of Politics

Gods of Pusillanimity

Globules of Purulence

Gropers of Pubescents

]]> By: Gus diZerega » http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318923 Gus diZerega » Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:22:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318923 <p>[…] (With thanks to Firedog Lake for the cockroach idea…  FDL is one of the best bloggers on this topic.) […]</p> […] (With thanks to Firedog Lake for the cockroach idea…  FDL is one of the best bloggers on this topic.) […]

]]> By: Exile on Ericsson St. http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318693 Exile on Ericsson St. Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:36:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318693 <p>To be a bit more optimistic, maybe the Republicans will just give in on this, throw one of their leaders to the lions and then make some attempt to act decent about the whole thing. I won’t hold my breath.</p> To be a bit more optimistic, maybe the Republicans will just give in on this, throw one of their leaders to the lions and then make some attempt to act decent about the whole thing. I won’t hold my breath.

]]> By: Exile on Ericsson St. http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318691 Exile on Ericsson St. Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:35:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318691 <p><em>It sounds like we also agree that Foley’s victims need to be left alone…by both sides.</em></p> <p>I agree completely. I have a feeling the Republicans won’t. I also think that there may be one or two of his victims that want to come forward to talk about it and that’s when I’m afraid the smearing will start. I hope I’m wrong (about the smearing, whoever wants to can come forward, that’s their business).</p> It sounds like we also agree that Foley’s victims need to be left alone…by both sides.

I agree completely. I have a feeling the Republicans won’t. I also think that there may be one or two of his victims that want to come forward to talk about it and that’s when I’m afraid the smearing will start. I hope I’m wrong (about the smearing, whoever wants to can come forward, that’s their business).

]]> By: Joshua Xalpharis http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318685 Joshua Xalpharis Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:26:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318685 <p>The Toledo Blade ran a front-page story yesterday on Woodward’s book. The main point was Andrew Card, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Stephen Hadley, and Michael Gershon were all supporting the dismissal of Donald Rumsfeld. Once right after the ‘04 election and around Thanksgiving ‘05.</p> <p>Rumsfeld must have a damn good insurance policy to withstand that kind of pressure. I’d be lying if I said I believed George personally decided to keep him around. Maybe he had a blanket pardon signed back in ‘01 along with Karl Rove. There has to be a reason the people in the Gorilla position would want to keep him around. Surely nothing positive, I imagine.</p> The Toledo Blade ran a front-page story yesterday on Woodward’s book. The main point was Andrew Card, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Stephen Hadley, and Michael Gershon were all supporting the dismissal of Donald Rumsfeld. Once right after the ‘04 election and around Thanksgiving ‘05.

Rumsfeld must have a damn good insurance policy to withstand that kind of pressure. I’d be lying if I said I believed George personally decided to keep him around. Maybe he had a blanket pardon signed back in ‘01 along with Karl Rove. There has to be a reason the people in the Gorilla position would want to keep him around. Surely nothing positive, I imagine.

]]> By: INFOHAZARD http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318639 INFOHAZARD Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:30:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/30/see-how-they-run/#comment-318639 <p><a href="#comment-318522"><em>An Angry Old Broad @<br /> 281 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Of course the cover up is a CYA thing,but could it also be that keeping this hushed was used or would have been used to keep Foley in line at some future point?</p> <p>I put nothing past the GOP at all. </p> </blockquote> <p>It’s seemed to me that blackmail is the stock-in-trade of ‘Political Leadership’<br /> in Washington, DC.</p> <p>There have been far too many unbelievable bills passed. Just look at the information about the Dems who voted FOR the detainee bill (<a href="http://thismodernworld.com/3210">on This Modern World</a>). How else would it make sense that they keep voting to give away their own power, and the entrenched Dems ALWAYS pull their punches?</p> An Angry Old Broad @
281

Of course the cover up is a CYA thing,but could it also be that keeping this hushed was used or would have been used to keep Foley in line at some future point?

I put nothing past the GOP at all.

It’s seemed to me that blackmail is the stock-in-trade of ‘Political Leadership’
in Washington, DC.

There have been far too many unbelievable bills passed. Just look at the information about the Dems who voted FOR the detainee bill (on This Modern World). How else would it make sense that they keep voting to give away their own power, and the entrenched Dems ALWAYS pull their punches?

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