Comments on: BLUE AMERICA: Angie Paccione (CO-04) http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:39:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Joe Max http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-313540 Joe Max Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:56:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-313540 <p>Howie wrote: “But one thing I have been pondering ever since, was who the hell is bat-shit crazy enough to buy into this severe form of mass psychosis?”</p> <p>Millions of them, Howie. Millions.</p> <p>For them, being batshit crazy is a STRENGTH, not a weakness.</p> <p>Christianity has always been the lazy man’s religion. The particular evil genius of St. Paul of Tarsus was in how he set it up that way. In most religions prior to Pauline Christianity (and even in some with us today, particularly in the Orient), those who subscribe to the religion must DO SOMETHING in order to practice it. With Christianity, you must do nothing but BELIEVE, and follow the commands of the priesthood. Thinking for yourself is dangerous, doubt of any kind is forbidden. To many people, such submissivness is desireable for the very reason that they DON’T have to think for themsleves. It makes their brains hurt. It’s so much easier to surrender and give up any personal responsibility for your own soul.</p> <p>Sadly, none of this doctrine can really be traced directly to the humble rabbi-carpenter from Galilee. “Saint” Paul is the one responsible.</p> Howie wrote: “But one thing I have been pondering ever since, was who the hell is bat-shit crazy enough to buy into this severe form of mass psychosis?”

Millions of them, Howie. Millions.

For them, being batshit crazy is a STRENGTH, not a weakness.

Christianity has always been the lazy man’s religion. The particular evil genius of St. Paul of Tarsus was in how he set it up that way. In most religions prior to Pauline Christianity (and even in some with us today, particularly in the Orient), those who subscribe to the religion must DO SOMETHING in order to practice it. With Christianity, you must do nothing but BELIEVE, and follow the commands of the priesthood. Thinking for yourself is dangerous, doubt of any kind is forbidden. To many people, such submissivness is desireable for the very reason that they DON’T have to think for themsleves. It makes their brains hurt. It’s so much easier to surrender and give up any personal responsibility for your own soul.

Sadly, none of this doctrine can really be traced directly to the humble rabbi-carpenter from Galilee. “Saint” Paul is the one responsible.

]]> By: BLUE AMERICA: Angie Paccione (CO-04) - Political Kicks http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-313306 BLUE AMERICA: Angie Paccione (CO-04) - Political Kicks Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:19:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-313306 <p>[…] BLUE AMERICA: Angie Paccione (CO-04) 04:27 pmAdd comment Today’s Blue America challenger is a state legislator from Colorado, Angie Paccione, a remarkable woman who you can meet over at FiredogLake today between 5:30 and 7:30 PM (EST). She’s running against a KKK-backed incumbent who has been obsessed with her bigotry towards gays since she was first elected 4 years ago, You can contribute to Angie’s campaign at our  ActBlue Page  and if you’re one of the first 25 to do it today, you win an autographed copy of the new book by Judah Freed, "Global Sense" Here’s Angie’s newest TV ad: […]</p> […] BLUE AMERICA: Angie Paccione (CO-04) 04:27 pmAdd comment Today’s Blue America challenger is a state legislator from Colorado, Angie Paccione, a remarkable woman who you can meet over at FiredogLake today between 5:30 and 7:30 PM (EST). She’s running against a KKK-backed incumbent who has been obsessed with her bigotry towards gays since she was first elected 4 years ago, You can contribute to Angie’s campaign at our  ActBlue Page  and if you’re one of the first 25 to do it today, you win an autographed copy of the new book by Judah Freed, "Global Sense" Here’s Angie’s newest TV ad: […]

]]> By: ifthethunderdontgetya http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312862 ifthethunderdontgetya Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:52:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312862 <p><a href="#comment-312838"><em>reddog @ 124 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>thanks ifthet…<br /> still curious as too where they got it from and who did the debunking..<br /> has anyone ever commented that that arguing with wingers is like an infinite game of whack-a-mole</p></blockquote> <p>Yes, it is. Although I think moles suffer by the comparison.</p> <p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/clarke-blasts-abc/">Wingnut fantasy debunked</a></p> reddog @ 124

thanks ifthet…
still curious as too where they got it from and who did the debunking..
has anyone ever commented that that arguing with wingers is like an infinite game of whack-a-mole

Yes, it is. Although I think moles suffer by the comparison.

Wingnut fantasy debunked

]]> By: LeftyMN http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312858 LeftyMN Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:51:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312858 <p>I am a Minnesotan who thinks the future of the Democratic party is in 2 areas… the first is Barack Obama and what he represents.. young , intelligent, and the best of diverse America and the second is the wave of Democrats coming from the Intermountain West states including Colorado (Montana, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming) … keep pounding away with commonsense Angie and show how ridiculous and truly marginal and out of the mainstream your opponent is…</p> I am a Minnesotan who thinks the future of the Democratic party is in 2 areas… the first is Barack Obama and what he represents.. young , intelligent, and the best of diverse America and the second is the wave of Democrats coming from the Intermountain West states including Colorado (Montana, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming) … keep pounding away with commonsense Angie and show how ridiculous and truly marginal and out of the mainstream your opponent is…

]]> By: Diana http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312848 Diana Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:41:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312848 <p>Delurking, too, to say I’m tickled to see Angie here at FDL. I’m a Denverite who used to live in Fort Collins … wish I were there so I could vote with you, Angie. Good luck!</p> Delurking, too, to say I’m tickled to see Angie here at FDL. I’m a Denverite who used to live in Fort Collins … wish I were there so I could vote with you, Angie. Good luck!

]]> By: reddog http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312838 reddog Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:36:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312838 <p>thanks ifthet…<br /> still curious as too where they got it from and who did the debunking..<br /> has anyone ever commented that that arguing with wingers is like an infinite game of whack-a-mole</p> thanks ifthet…
still curious as too where they got it from and who did the debunking..
has anyone ever commented that that arguing with wingers is like an infinite game of whack-a-mole

]]> By: ifthethunderdontgetya http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312827 ifthethunderdontgetya Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:28:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312827 <p><a href="#comment-312811"><em>reddog @ 122</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>hi this is a bit off topic but my winger buddy was going off on clinton and quoting some book written by one of his military staffers … possibly the guy who carried the “football”…claiming clinton had snipers calling in saying they had bin laden in their sights and clinton being too busy to respond with the kill order…this sounds like typical winger b.s. but i’m curious as to where/who is pushing it seeing as all the ridiculing him for being obsessed with osama at the time</p> <p>o/t o/t been lurking here for 2-3 yrs thanx for all the good writng and hard work</p></blockquote> <p>Reddog, you can tell your buddy that is a debunked rumor that was recycled on Disney’s 9-11 mockumentary. It has as much truth to it as “Salman-Pak” and “Able Danger”.</p> reddog @ 122

hi this is a bit off topic but my winger buddy was going off on clinton and quoting some book written by one of his military staffers … possibly the guy who carried the “football”…claiming clinton had snipers calling in saying they had bin laden in their sights and clinton being too busy to respond with the kill order…this sounds like typical winger b.s. but i’m curious as to where/who is pushing it seeing as all the ridiculing him for being obsessed with osama at the time

o/t o/t been lurking here for 2-3 yrs thanx for all the good writng and hard work

Reddog, you can tell your buddy that is a debunked rumor that was recycled on Disney’s 9-11 mockumentary. It has as much truth to it as “Salman-Pak” and “Able Danger”.

]]> By: reddog http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312811 reddog Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:08:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312811 <p>hi this is a bit off topic but my winger buddy was going off on clinton and quoting some book written by one of his military staffers … possibly the guy who carried the “football”…claiming clinton had snipers calling in saying they had bin laden in their sights and clinton being too busy to respond with the kill order…this sounds like typical winger b.s. but i’m curious as to where/who is pushing it seeing as all the ridiculing him for being obsessed with osama at the time</p> <p>o/t o/t been lurking here for 2-3 yrs thanx for all the good writng and hard work</p> hi this is a bit off topic but my winger buddy was going off on clinton and quoting some book written by one of his military staffers … possibly the guy who carried the “football”…claiming clinton had snipers calling in saying they had bin laden in their sights and clinton being too busy to respond with the kill order…this sounds like typical winger b.s. but i’m curious as to where/who is pushing it seeing as all the ridiculing him for being obsessed with osama at the time

o/t o/t been lurking here for 2-3 yrs thanx for all the good writng and hard work

]]> By: Cujo359 http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312804 Cujo359 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:57:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312804 <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/yesterdays-warnings-todays-terrorists/">New thread, yesterday’s warnings</a>, or something like that.</p> New thread, yesterday’s warnings, or something like that.

]]> By: Cujo359 http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312799 Cujo359 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:49:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/27/blue-america-angie-paccione-co-04/#comment-312799 <p>egregious @ 5:39 pm (#117)<br /> </p><blockquote><br /> The Post revealed details that the government asked people not to reveal, in order to help the investigation.<br /> </blockquote><br /> The NYP story mentioned the substance that was mailed in the letter. Normally, that’s one of those things that investigators will keep to themselves since it does nothing to inform the public and it’s a way to know if someone offering information about a crime knows something he didn’t read in a newspaper. egregious @ 5:39 pm (#117)

The Post revealed details that the government asked people not to reveal, in order to help the investigation.

The NYP story mentioned the substance that was mailed in the letter. Normally, that’s one of those things that investigators will keep to themselves since it does nothing to inform the public and it’s a way to know if someone offering information about a crime knows something he didn’t read in a newspaper.

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