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		<title>By: jeffreyw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311038</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffreyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-311011&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Prairie Sunshine @&lt;br /&gt;
                158              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here’s a new addy for “all the latest political news” that invites tips, etc:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:politicalticker@cnn.com&quot;&gt;politicalticker@cnn.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let ‘em know about Raw Story.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tok your advice and sent them this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Raw Story at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/2001_memo_to_Rice_contradicts_statements_0926.html&quot;&gt;http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0926.html&lt;/a&gt;  directly contradicts Rice.  Talk to R. Clark and get his take, have you contacted him?  He’s been pretty quiet esp. since Clinton made multiple references to him in that Fox interview Sunday.  Journalism is not dead yet.  Show us that you agree. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards, jeffreyw &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-311011"><em>Prairie Sunshine @<br />
                158              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Here’s a new addy for “all the latest political news” that invites tips, etc:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:politicalticker@cnn.com">politicalticker@cnn.com</a></p>
<p>Let ‘em know about Raw Story.</p>
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<p>Tok your advice and sent them this:</p>
<blockquote><p> Raw Story at: <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/2001_memo_to_Rice_contradicts_statements_0926.html">http://www.rawstory.com/news/2&#8230;.._0926.html</a>  directly contradicts Rice.  Talk to R. Clark and get his take, have you contacted him?  He’s been pretty quiet esp. since Clinton made multiple references to him in that Fox interview Sunday.  Journalism is not dead yet.  Show us that you agree. </p>
<p>Best regards, jeffreyw </p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311037</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-310979&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SharonW @ 127 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bill’s bringing it home now with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/2001_memo_to_Rice_contradicts_statements_0926.html&quot;&gt;strategy on Al Qaeda papers&lt;/a&gt;.  Hehe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, RAW STORY has found that just five days after President George W. Bush was sworn into office, a memo from counter-terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke to Rice included the 2000 document, “Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects.” This document devotes over 2 of its 13 pages of material to specifically addressing strategies for securing Pakistan’s cooperation in airstrikes against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Pakistan obstacle&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The strategy document includes “three levers” that the United States had started applying to Pakistan as far back as 1990. Sanctions, political and economic methods of persuasion are all offered as having been somewhat successful.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other portions of the passages relating to Pakistan – marked as “operational details” – have been redacted from the declassified memo at the CIA’s request. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The document also explores broader strategic approaches, such as a “need to keep in mind that Pakistan has been most willing to cooperate with us on terrorism when its role is invisible or at least plausibly deniable to the powerful Islamist right wing.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This isn’t exactly what they’re talking about but, it’s close enuf for &lt;i&gt;horseshoes and hand-grenades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Washington, DC - &lt;b&gt;The U.S. government pressed the Taliban to expel Usama bin Laden over 30 times between 1996, when the Taliban took Kabul, and the summer of 2001&lt;/b&gt;, but the talks were always fruitless and &lt;b&gt;only three of the approaches took place in the first year of the Bush administration&lt;/b&gt;, according to a newly declassified State Department summary posted on the Web today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB97/index3.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/N.....index3.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-310979"><em>SharonW @ 127 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bill’s bringing it home now with the <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/2001_memo_to_Rice_contradicts_statements_0926.html">strategy on Al Qaeda papers</a>.  Hehe.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, RAW STORY has found that just five days after President George W. Bush was sworn into office, a memo from counter-terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke to Rice included the 2000 document, “Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects.” This document devotes over 2 of its 13 pages of material to specifically addressing strategies for securing Pakistan’s cooperation in airstrikes against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. </p>
<p>The Pakistan obstacle</p>
<p><b>The strategy document includes “three levers” that the United States had started applying to Pakistan as far back as 1990. Sanctions, political and economic methods of persuasion are all offered as having been somewhat successful.</b></p>
<p>Other portions of the passages relating to Pakistan – marked as “operational details” – have been redacted from the declassified memo at the CIA’s request. </p>
<p>The document also explores broader strategic approaches, such as a “need to keep in mind that Pakistan has been most willing to cooperate with us on terrorism when its role is invisible or at least plausibly deniable to the powerful Islamist right wing.”</p>
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<p>This isn’t exactly what they’re talking about but, it’s close enuf for <i>horseshoes and hand-grenades</i></p>
<blockquote><p>Washington, DC &#8211; <b>The U.S. government pressed the Taliban to expel Usama bin Laden over 30 times between 1996, when the Taliban took Kabul, and the summer of 2001</b>, but the talks were always fruitless and <b>only three of the approaches took place in the first year of the Bush administration</b>, according to a newly declassified State Department summary posted on the Web today.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB97/index3.htm">http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/N&#8230;..index3.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: scarecrow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311035</link>
		<dc:creator>scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last time the Administration used the argument “we shouldn’t be finger-pointing,” was right after Katrina.  Using it now is a sign they realize how vulnerable they are for being blamed for something awful.  IMO, this language is not accidental, nor was Condi’s appearance this a.m.  They have to divert the story away from “Iraq is making us less safe.”  If the CNN story can be changed to suggest she “conveniently forgot” what Dick Clarke told her, that theme will continue, and this becomes a major accountability moment for this Administration. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suggest those of you who know how to do it go over to the dKos story and Spotlight all over the major media; and add a link to rawstory in the comment.  It may be too late for tonight’s network news hours, but we can still catch the cable shows and tomorrow’s newspapers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time the Administration used the argument “we shouldn’t be finger-pointing,” was right after Katrina.  Using it now is a sign they realize how vulnerable they are for being blamed for something awful.  IMO, this language is not accidental, nor was Condi’s appearance this a.m.  They have to divert the story away from “Iraq is making us less safe.”  If the CNN story can be changed to suggest she “conveniently forgot” what Dick Clarke told her, that theme will continue, and this becomes a major accountability moment for this Administration. </p>
<p>I suggest those of you who know how to do it go over to the dKos story and Spotlight all over the major media; and add a link to rawstory in the comment.  It may be too late for tonight’s network news hours, but we can still catch the cable shows and tomorrow’s newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bustednuckles</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311032</link>
		<dc:creator>Bustednuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New Thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/joe-lieberman-is-running-with-a-bad-crowd/#respond&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....d/#respond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Thread.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/joe-lieberman-is-running-with-a-bad-crowd/#respond">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..d/#respond</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dogs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311029</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-310950&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary @ 99 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Amnesty for war criminals all around and a country that embraces war crimes - you don’t rectify that with an investigation, that five syllable word that Pelosi has run from anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only criminals need immunity. So tell us Junya, why do &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; need immunity?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-310950"><em>Mary @ 99 </em></a></p>
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Amnesty for war criminals all around and a country that embraces war crimes &#8211; you don’t rectify that with an investigation, that five syllable word that Pelosi has run from anyway.</p>
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<p>Only criminals need immunity. So tell us Junya, why do <em>you</em> need immunity?</p>
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		<title>By: meta</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311028</link>
		<dc:creator>meta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;SharonW @  169  &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-311018&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;meta @ 165 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’ve also noticed that C&amp;L now has a Digg button for us to use.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I noticed that, too, but I have no idea what a Digg button does.  What does it do?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SharonW, it’s a kind of a social marketing site.  If you hit the Digg button, you get an article recognized.  It’s then voted on by a bunch of Digg power users, and it if gets a good rating, it makes it to the front page, therefore boosting its visibility.  If you go to the site, there are several categories.  Here’s the “world/business” caregory.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digg.com/view/world_business&quot;&gt;http://www.digg.com/view/world_business&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It’s kind of an interesting breed of push and pull.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>SharonW @  169  </em></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-311018"><em>meta @ 165 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve also noticed that C&amp;L now has a Digg button for us to use.</p>
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<p>I noticed that, too, but I have no idea what a Digg button does.  What does it do?</p>
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<p>SharonW, it’s a kind of a social marketing site.  If you hit the Digg button, you get an article recognized.  It’s then voted on by a bunch of Digg power users, and it if gets a good rating, it makes it to the front page, therefore boosting its visibility.  If you go to the site, there are several categories.  Here’s the “world/business” caregory.<br />
<a href="http://www.digg.com/view/world_business">http://www.digg.com/view/world_business</a><br />
It’s kind of an interesting breed of push and pull.</p>
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		<title>By: Morris Sheppard</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311027</link>
		<dc:creator>Morris Sheppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Our dear leader:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“We’ll let history judge all the different finger-pointing and all that business. I don’t have enough time to finger-point,” he said at a news conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s  why he has FOX news and ABC do the fingerpointing for him. So much easier that way. Leaves him more time for Presidentin’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our dear leader:</p>
<blockquote><p>“We’ll let history judge all the different finger-pointing and all that business. I don’t have enough time to finger-point,” he said at a news conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.</p>
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<p>That’s  why he has FOX news and ABC do the fingerpointing for him. So much easier that way. Leaves him more time for Presidentin’.</p>
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		<title>By: scarecrow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311026</link>
		<dc:creator>scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It will be interesting to see how long it takes for CNN to revise it’s reporting on Secretary Rice rebutting Clinton, to reflect the information about the Clarke memo (from the maha/dKos and RawStory posts.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If anyone hears Wolf Blitzer or others update the story, please let us know.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I just Spotlighted the dKos post, with a link to RawStory, to Blitzer and 9 other CNN reporters and anchors who might be working on the same story.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how long it takes for CNN to revise it’s reporting on Secretary Rice rebutting Clinton, to reflect the information about the Clarke memo (from the maha/dKos and RawStory posts.  </p>
<p>If anyone hears Wolf Blitzer or others update the story, please let us know.  </p>
<p>(I just Spotlighted the dKos post, with a link to RawStory, to Blitzer and 9 other CNN reporters and anchors who might be working on the same story.)</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311024</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pervez whining:  It’s not Pakistan’s fault and it’s all Karzai’s fault. wwwaaaa.  (on cnn)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Musharraf:  Karzai is “turning his blind eye as an ostrich” (?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;good grief.  bad blood all over the place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it was Teak 111.  I did not like Saddam and he was beastly, but he was so weakened as were his people by the sanctions, that I think change would have come with vigorous diplomatic efforts, easing of cruel sanctions and regime change would have come from within.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pervez whining:  It’s not Pakistan’s fault and it’s all Karzai’s fault. wwwaaaa.  (on cnn)</p>
<p>Musharraf:  Karzai is “turning his blind eye as an ostrich” (?)</p>
<p>good grief.  bad blood all over the place.</p>
<p>I think it was Teak 111.  I did not like Saddam and he was beastly, but he was so weakened as were his people by the sanctions, that I think change would have come with vigorous diplomatic efforts, easing of cruel sanctions and regime change would have come from within.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Sow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#comment-311023</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Sow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Iran and Iraq were in check already.  They just refused to obey.  (Can you blame them?)  There was no need to make a war.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, I don’t know where to start to fix what we broke: we need a new dialogue altogether. But ceasing to trade in arms and bringing our troops, weapons and munitions would be a great place to start.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran and Iraq were in check already.  They just refused to obey.  (Can you blame them?)  There was no need to make a war.  </p>
<p>That said, I don’t know where to start to fix what we broke: we need a new dialogue altogether. But ceasing to trade in arms and bringing our troops, weapons and munitions would be a great place to start.</p>
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