Comments on: Accountability Knocks http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:49:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: susan http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-311476 susan Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:45:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-311476 <p>I wonder if anyone has even bothered to read the NIE report?</p> <p>The office of intelligence director John Negroponte released a 3-1/2 page section of the April report “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States” compiled by the 16 U.S. spy agencies hours after Bush ordered it declassified.</p> <p><a href="http://dni.gov/press_releases/Declassified_NIE_Key_Judgments.pdf">Declassified NIE Report</a></p> I wonder if anyone has even bothered to read the NIE report?

The office of intelligence director John Negroponte released a 3-1/2 page section of the April report “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States” compiled by the 16 U.S. spy agencies hours after Bush ordered it declassified.

Declassified NIE Report

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310861 Hugh Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:59:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310861 <p>Merely a question to throw out here but is it possible to have due process without a right to habeas corpus? Is there any point in having a legal process without it? Without it, detainees who have not been charged have no recourse to demand that they either be charged or released. Those who are charged might still be limited in their knowledge of the scope of the charges against them, hanpering their defense. Even those who were eventually acquitted could be detained indefinitely because they would still have no means to contest their continued detention.</p> Merely a question to throw out here but is it possible to have due process without a right to habeas corpus? Is there any point in having a legal process without it? Without it, detainees who have not been charged have no recourse to demand that they either be charged or released. Those who are charged might still be limited in their knowledge of the scope of the charges against them, hanpering their defense. Even those who were eventually acquitted could be detained indefinitely because they would still have no means to contest their continued detention.

]]> By: susan http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310856 susan Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:54:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310856 <p><a href="#comment-310830"><em>selise @ 164 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>from <a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/09/it-gets-worse.html#115928701141984094">a comment by cboldt</a>, a few minutes ago at balkinization:</p> <blockquote><p>The revised text is before the Senate in the form of Frist’s S.Amdt. 5036, with the actual text at<br /> <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/R?r109:FLD001:S60076">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....001:S60076</a><br /> The amendment and Military Commissions Act of 2006 is being handled in the context of H.R.6061 - The Secure Fence Act. Senator Specter has until 2:30 to file 1st degree amendments out of the Judiciary Committee - well, all Senators have until 2:30 PM to do so.<br /> Amazing. Text formally filed Monday evening, concurrently with a cloture motion, and review and proposing of amendment is to take place within a period of about 20 hours.</p></blockquote> <p>mary, are you still here to explain this to us? this there really less than 1 hour to go?</p></blockquote> <p>Christy, can you comment on this?</p> selise @ 164

from a comment by cboldt, a few minutes ago at balkinization:

The revised text is before the Senate in the form of Frist’s S.Amdt. 5036, with the actual text at
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/…..001:S60076
The amendment and Military Commissions Act of 2006 is being handled in the context of H.R.6061 – The Secure Fence Act. Senator Specter has until 2:30 to file 1st degree amendments out of the Judiciary Committee – well, all Senators have until 2:30 PM to do so.
Amazing. Text formally filed Monday evening, concurrently with a cloture motion, and review and proposing of amendment is to take place within a period of about 20 hours.

mary, are you still here to explain this to us? this there really less than 1 hour to go?

Christy, can you comment on this?

]]> By: jinny http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310854 jinny Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:54:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310854 <p>Prairie Sunshine @ 171</p> <p><i>“How about starting with asking him what his father issues are?”</i></p> <p>Presumably the same as W’s.</p> Prairie Sunshine @ 171

“How about starting with asking him what his father issues are?”

Presumably the same as W’s.

]]> By: BobbyG http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310853 BobbyG Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:53:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310853 <p><a href="#comment-310843"><em>Adrienne @ 174</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>OT, but important piece of the Iran puzzle: </p> <p>Over at the DailyKos General Wesley Clark…feels that <b>the only chance to stop a strike on Iran is the election of a Democratic Congress in November</b>, assuming BushCo does not manage to start dropping the bombs before the election. The only good news about Iran is that Clark feels there are clear divisions in the Administration, with Rice showing some misgivings about striking, and CheneyCo wanting war with Iran ASAP. The bad news is that with RiceCo wavering, and CheneyCo chomping at the bit, <b>a strike is simply a matter of “when, not if.”</b></p> <p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/26/125738/074">http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....125738/074</a></p></blockquote> <p>So, when does Bush attack Iran next month? Late in the month, so as to leave little domestic political blowback time in the event they hit back hard and lethally on a large scale?</p> <p>Just for the sake of argument — that it’ll be prior to election day. How close to election day? Two weeks? A week?<br /> _</p> Adrienne @ 174

OT, but important piece of the Iran puzzle:

Over at the DailyKos General Wesley Clark…feels that the only chance to stop a strike on Iran is the election of a Democratic Congress in November, assuming BushCo does not manage to start dropping the bombs before the election. The only good news about Iran is that Clark feels there are clear divisions in the Administration, with Rice showing some misgivings about striking, and CheneyCo wanting war with Iran ASAP. The bad news is that with RiceCo wavering, and CheneyCo chomping at the bit, a strike is simply a matter of “when, not if.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..125738/074

So, when does Bush attack Iran next month? Late in the month, so as to leave little domestic political blowback time in the event they hit back hard and lethally on a large scale?

Just for the sake of argument — that it’ll be prior to election day. How close to election day? Two weeks? A week?
_

]]> By: Bustednuckles http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310844 Bustednuckles Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:49:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310844 <p>New Thread.</p> <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/aint-all-blue-skies/#respond">http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....s/#respond</a></p> New Thread.

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..s/#respond

]]> By: Adrienne http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310843 Adrienne Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:48:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310843 <p>OT, but important piece of the Iran puzzle: </p> <p>Over at the DailyKos General Wesley Clark…feels that <b>the only chance to stop a strike on Iran is the election of a Democratic Congress in November</b>, assuming BushCo does not manage to start dropping the bombs before the election. The only good news about Iran is that Clark feels there are clear divisions in the Administration, with Rice showing some misgivings about striking, and CheneyCo wanting war with Iran ASAP. The bad news is that with RiceCo wavering, and CheneyCo chomping at the bit, <b>a strike is simply a matter of “when, not if.”</b></p> <p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/26/125738/074">http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....125738/074</a></p> OT, but important piece of the Iran puzzle:

Over at the DailyKos General Wesley Clark…feels that the only chance to stop a strike on Iran is the election of a Democratic Congress in November, assuming BushCo does not manage to start dropping the bombs before the election. The only good news about Iran is that Clark feels there are clear divisions in the Administration, with Rice showing some misgivings about striking, and CheneyCo wanting war with Iran ASAP. The bad news is that with RiceCo wavering, and CheneyCo chomping at the bit, a strike is simply a matter of “when, not if.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..125738/074

]]> By: jinny http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310841 jinny Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:48:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310841 <p>Josh Marshall is asking everyone to call their representatives and senators now in order to get both reports out.</p> <p>Below this post is Fighting Democrat Webb’s new ad.</p> <p><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a></p> Josh Marshall is asking everyone to call their representatives and senators now in order to get both reports out.

Below this post is Fighting Democrat Webb’s new ad.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

]]> By: Eureka Springs, AR http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310839 Eureka Springs, AR Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:45:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310839 <p>Praying for Pelosi! and Wanted voodoo Frist doll!</p> Praying for Pelosi! and Wanted voodoo Frist doll!

]]> By: Prairie Sunshine http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310838 Prairie Sunshine Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:44:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/26/accountability-knocks/#comment-310838 <p>Imus webpage at MSNBC has pull quotes from Kerry’s appearance this morning.<br /> <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036713/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036713/</a></p> <p>Also, tomorrow’s guests include Chris Wallace. Got questions? <a href="mailto:imus@msnbc.com">imus@msnbc.com</a></p> <p>How about starting with asking him what his father issues are?</p> <p>Then there’s who sent you the emails asking you to ask Clinton that question–Rove or Roger?</p> <p>My own personal favorite would be “have you no shame”?</p> Imus webpage at MSNBC has pull quotes from Kerry’s appearance this morning.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036713/

Also, tomorrow’s guests include Chris Wallace. Got questions? imus@msnbc.com

How about starting with asking him what his father issues are?

Then there’s who sent you the emails asking you to ask Clinton that question–Rove or Roger?

My own personal favorite would be “have you no shame”?

]]>