We have been so beaten down with the fearmongering ‘us vs. them’ mentality that Congress and much of America would rather discard our basic premise of human rights, human dignity, and fairness. This means that we will no longer be able to claim our status as a beacon of light, life, liberty and justice for all. Ms. Liberty’s light has been extinguished, and the Constitution has been placed in the outhouse for other uses.

We MUST frame this debate as it should be, and not let them disfigure it with the ‘fear of terrorism’ mantra. This is about TRUTH, JUSTICE and the AMERICAN WAY!

I’m so sorry that Mr. Bush and his neocons chose to listen to the BAD legal advice of Gonzales and Yu. But this does not condone after-the-fact changes that violate the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions!

Seton Hall. (only one “e”)

Not trying to be anal-retentive here about spelling, just want it to be easier to find for folks.

Oilfieldguy @ 158

“Five percent of the inmates in Guantanimo were picked up by US troops. The rest of them were picked up by tribal leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan…” — Rear Admiral John Hudson

Is there a link to this quote?

no transcipt as of yet (and in a quick look, i didn’t see it in the submitted written statement), but you can hear it for yourself (and get it exactly)…. i’ve posted a link to the mp3 of the hearing upthread @ 95..

Seventy to 90 percent of the Iraq detentions in 2003 were “mistakes,” U.S. officers once told the international Red Cross.

This is from an AP article published Sept. 17th.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ican_hands

One of the many/most upsetting stories I’ve read lately was on HuffPo.

A US woman lawyer (can’t remember her name) told the story of a detainee at Guantanamo that she’s representing.

When US bombs started falling on Kabul in 2002, this individual and his wife fled to the countryside to stay with the wife’s family. Seems the husband was unknown to the local warlords and they turned him over to US troops and got a $5000 reward for their effort.

He’s been confined in the US concentration camp at GB ever since. His new baby was six months old when he last saw her, which makes her five now.

Heartbreaking. And criminal. I went back to HuffPO but it’s no longer posted and I couldn’t find a link.

justjohn – I was kind of thinking the “being purchased off warlords” and chained is somewhat reminiscent.

Got off the phone with an extremely polite aid in McConnell’s office but my voice was shaking I was so angry. When he asked for my specific concerns I let him know and when I was done I asked him how he could justify the Sentor’s position and he didn’t even try – just “I’ll pass your concerns along.”

When I asked him about how it could be that the Arar matter has been kicking around forever and Canada has finished a long investigation and the Congress of the United States has not even held ONE HEARING, not one, and how does that happen in the United States of America – the silence was very protracted.

I had to apologize for ranting at the poor kid.

I wonder if it was the same kid I railed at this morning over McConnell’s calling the Dem hearings on the conduct of the war “a stunt.”

ooops. Good thing I did a quick proofread of his. I spelled conduct “confuct.” mmmhhh. Not a bad new word as in “Because of Rumsfeld’s confuct of the war in Iraq we’re all screwed.”

Dr Evil, if we keep up the good fight long enough it will be enough.

Yes, I agree…I just wish the good fight wasn’t taking so bloody long.

“Five percent of the inmates in Guantanimo were picked up by US troops. The rest of them were picked up by tribal leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan…” — Rear Admiral John Hudson

Is there a link to this quote?

no transcipt as of yet (and in a quick look, i didn’t see it in the submitted written statement), but you can hear it for yourself (and get it exactly)…. i’ve posted a link to the mp3 of the hearing upthread @ 95..

“Five percent of the inmates in Guantanimo were picked up by US troops. The rest of them were picked up by tribal leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan…” — Rear Admiral John Hudson

Is there a link to this quote? Even though this is a 400 percent increase over the Cheney “One Percent Doctrine” as outlined by Ron Suskind, it is still pretty fucking damning.

So 95 percent of the detainees the Republicans so eloquently label as terrorists who want to kill you as soon as you vote for a Democrat, were nabbed because some cocksucker saw an easy way to bang his neighbors ol’ lady, slap his bratty kids around and make $5K US by just dropping a dime to the gubmint saying I got’cher terrist rightchere.

What a fukin’ deal!!

I’m with Christy on this. From this point forward, anybody who claims to be a Republican is as far from being American as is ideologically possible.

This administration is running a Terrorist Multiplier program. People around the world do not hate America or freedom, they hate the perversion of these ideals and the application of the totalitarian worldview of the neocons, who now encompass all Republicans and the religious American taliban as well.

I laugh deep belly laughs when I read folks whimpering about the divisiveness of the far left bloggers, and paint Republicans as centrists and pictures of strength and security. Clearly they are not paying attention.