Oh, good lord, whatever.
You know what’s wrong with the media today? J-school. Journalism as a major clearly destroys whatever natural writing ability a person may have. Of course, maybe that’s the objective when you’re writing for Time or The New York Times, to speak the news in as bland and mundane a fashion as possible, with the occasional decadent excursion into Thesaurus-land.
Let’s begin, shall we? From Time magazine, we have this utterly condescending little piece, entitled "The Net Roots Hit Their Limits":
It opens with this paragraph:
You’ve heard the story: the Netroots, the Democratic Party’s equivalent of a punk garage band–edgy, loud and antiauthoritarian–are suddenly on the verge of the big time. The gang of liberal bloggers and online activists who helped raise millions of dollars for Howard Dean’s presidential campaign two years ago are now said to be Democratic kingmakers. Last month in Connecticut, they fanned anti-incumbent and antiwar flames and were widely credited with the primary defeat of Senator Joe Lieberman, leading him to run as an independent. After they relentlessly derided Senator Hillary Clinton as calculating, overly cautious and lacking true liberal bona fides, she hired an adviser just to deal with them and even demanded that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld resign. Coincidence? Moderate Democrats say it with remorse, conservatives with glee, but the conventional wisdom is bipartisan: progressive bloggers are pushing the Democratic Party so far to the left that it will have no chance of capturing the presidency in 2008.
And ends with this one:
Even with these changes, the Netroots won’t be kingmakers. The fact is, day-to-day campaigning in 2006 is not very different from how it was in 1996: candidates call a few very rich people to ask them to give money so the campaign can run ads on television and hope soccer moms catch them between cooking dinner and driving to practice. If the Democrats win in the fall elections, the roots of that victory will not be on the Net.
And somehow in the process manages to miss every salient point along the way. The author, Perry Bacon, Jr., saws on and on for three pages about how blogs have reached the limits of their efficacy in the political discourse and are now having to resort to real-world, old-fashioned campaign tactics like letters to the editor and door to door canvassing. I guess the notion that this expansion (going from being words on a screen to being actual boots on the ground) constitutes the next logical step in our growth would be too much for Mr. Bacon to concede.
His first paragraph comes close to the truth. The Progressive Blogosphere is Nirvana (the band, not the state of mind), and soft-left establishment rags like Time are, well, Winger. Even little Brendan Nyhan in his weaselly cri de coeur last week admits that the great frigates of "opinion journalism" (whatever that means) have suffered heavy damage to their previously impregnable hulls and are now rapidly taking on water.
It’s because of the war, stupid. If the last five years have shown us anything, it is the fact that we can’t trust you. You all stood by with your hands in your pockets while a reckless and power-crazed administration sold you a pack of lies and took our nation to war against another sovereign nation, unprovoked. Iraq was no threat to the United States. But it is NOW! So everything you people say now is suspect. You can’t be relied upon to tell the truth, to be curious, or to fulfill your traditional role as watchdog against unchecked corruption in the halls of power.
And that’s why the blogosphere’s numbers keep getting bigger even as newspapers and news magazines see their circulation shrinking and dwindling before their very eyes. Once the world heard Kurt Cobain’s guitar, all that spandex and hairspray and makeup on the likes of Ratt, Warrant, and Poison was revealed for the preening frippery that it was. In three chords, Nirvana set fire to the whole of the 80’s and left it for dead, and no amount of retrospectives, Behind the Music specials or appearances on Headbanger’s Ball could bring it back to life again.
To be fair, the article does quote Jane and gives this blog a little pat on the head:
Jane Hamsher, who runs the piquant online hangout Firedoglake, and other bloggers have started the "roots project," in which they employ nonweb political tactics like writing letters to the editors of their local newspapers. "We can hammer the New York Times and the Washington Post forever," Hamsher said, but "candidates are more influenced by what we’re doing in their own backyards."
"Piquant"? How’s that for a condescending little adjective? "Piquant" is mustard. It’s Amy Grant singing songs about her mother. How about "pithy", "pointed", or "provocative"? But this is precisely what I meant earlier about Journalizzzzzm school and the inverted pyramid writing style destroying whatever talent a writer might have for finding and deploying le mot juste. Take for instance this bit from Jennifer Senior’s breezily clueless (and kind of smug about it) review of Lewis Lapham’s Pretensions to Empire and Sidney Blumenthal’s How Bush Rules.
The left has often complained that what it needs isn’t polite speech, but voices as pungent as those on the right. Maybe so. But even the angriest people on the right tend to be funny. Books like this one are a depressing reminder of how important it is for writers to have a slight sense of humor about themselves, if they want to be taken at all seriously.
"Pungent"? Is that the best word you could come up with, Jennifer, honey? I think you meant "plangent". "Pungent" means a penetrating stink. And while I might use that word to describe books by Ann Coulter or Bill O’Reilly, I don’t think that’s the word you want. ("You keep saying that word, but I don’t think eet means what you theenk it does…") "Plangent" means a loud and penetrating sound, and I can’t believe your editor didn’t make you change it. That’s just bad writing, to say nothing about that review’s utterly empty cargo hold of ideas.
But take heart, my fellow firedogs. It’s the mainstream media’s job to "misunderestimate" us. Five years from now, Condoleezza Rice and Don Rumsfeld and Joe Lieberman will be disgraced, unemployed, and making the talk show rounds saying, "No one could have predicted how powerful the netroots would become."
Yup. That’s because they believed what they read in the mainstream press.
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Dagnabbit, db beat me to it!
TRex! Where ya’ been bro?
I’ll go get the others…
I’ll be right back.
I’m out of cigarettes.
And candy.
Time Magazine Less Reputable Than the National Enquirer
Time is one of the worst BushCo shilling operations in America. That magazine is a disgrace, they’re liable to say almost anything. I cancelled my subscription in horror a couple of years ago.
Just who the feck is Perry Bacon Jr. anyways?
His Time bio doesn’t have much to say.
And how piquant is that considering his article doesn’t have much of value to say either? *g*
I guess it’s simply a matter of clueless is as clueless does.
I want to go back to the fact that FDL commenters pleaded for everyone to get tough and for Clinton to play lead on the solo.
3 days later the Blogosphere responds, but not because of Arianna. It’s because everyone realized that time grows short.
I’m doin’ it. Others are doin’ it. Arianna is doin’ it. Let’s rock.
Good night and good night.
Balrogs sleep in order to catch naughty Hobbits’s.
Junior is going to learn what it means to be wrong…
Methinks Perry Bacon Jr. has been stuffing too many Beltway bozo cocktail weenies in both ends.
That’s some homemade recipe for barbeque sauce! *g*
Jennifer Senior used the word “twee” in there somewhere.
Talk show rounds?? I would hope they are on trial for their lives under the 1996 War Crimes Act. Well I can hope can’t I?
OT/ Tester to Burns..”With things like the Patriot Act.. We’d damn well better keep our guns”
Wait, they have talk shows in the Hague?
Well of course, we still have to write letters to the editor and knock on doors, and we always will. But, where are all those people knocking on doors getting inspired and organized to be effective? Where are the people writing letters getting their ideas and information from…Not Time magazine.
Steve @ 11
Now that guys going to win!
“Even little Brandon Nyhan in his weaselly cri de coeur last week admits that the great frigates of “opinion journalism” (whatever that means) have suffered heavy damage to their previously impregnable hulls and are now rapidly taking on water.”
Yup, sorry TIME, but it’s long past your time!
Nobody subscribes to you anymore except for little old ladies (and men) who Publisher’s Clearinghouse conned into buying a 50 year subscription.
And oh btw, those folks don’t actually read your scribbles. They just find your dazzling pages to be a nice change of pace in lining the bottom of their cockatoo’s cage.
See the purty colors birdy? Polly want another cracker?
I ask again; The ’sensible Dems’ like Senior and Broder believe one of two notions
1. There is never a time for sensible people to be disturbed, even outraged, by their elected leaders.
2. Now is not such a time.
Which is it? Sure, they may recognize that this new hyperpartisan era was ushered in by Rovepublicans, but they simply allow it to pass as a political, theatrical event, not deserving comdenation by those of us who are branded as traitors. Too f***ing bad, Sensibillies, we didn’t ask for this war, but we’re sure as hell not gonna stand still and let the likes of Rove, Cheney, and Coulter spew their dishonest, disgusting bilge allmover the USA.
TRex @ 4
I don’t know if you’ve heard of Rufus Wainwright? (Did I spell that correctly? Oh, I’m gonna have to go to my car and get his CD!)
“Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk” (name of CD :Poses)
Great CD!
Great voice.
It just reminded me of the song.
As far as your post: WOW!
I remember wanting to be a journalist. I was 10. It was the race of ‘76.
I loved Jimmy Carter! Couldn’t wait to vote!
Do the math – you get to know who I got stuck with!
Memo to Time Magazine:
F**K you. Too far to the left to win the White House in 2008? You said that same crazy crap in 1992. F**k you twice. The biggest electoral landslides in US history are when the Democratic Party says “hell yeah, we’re progressive, and those other guys aren’t.” Look at the cover of your 1964 Man of the Year issue, assholes. It’s wild-eyed lefty LBJ, who beat the living shit out of Goldwater. Clearly articulated progressive principled, vigorously defended, can beat the hell out of spewing fountains of right-wing incompetence. Mushy-mouthed mewlings for a non-existent center is what loses, you old-paradigm buffoons. F**k you thrice.
This doofus guy Bacon is calling Jane Hamsher “piquant” because he knows – perhaps from watching her on MSNBC the other day – that he has to turn the totally refreshing and honest image she presented on TV into something less than what that image is.
I commented on this a couple of days ago. Women like Jane, Arianna Huffington and, oh – Naomi Klein, for example, aren’t just attractive. The most important thing about all three of them is the raw brain power you see and hear when they answer questions on camera. With Jane there’s also the obvious freshness (as in refreshing). She looks almost disingenuous, but once she phrases an answer, that image shatters.
A lot of guys are scared shitless by women that brilliant and guileless. Maybe that’s what “piquant” means..?
TRex cigarettes? I’m not trying to be the pain in the ass reformed smoker but… I started when I was 13 and smoked 2 packs per day for 45 years. I cut out lungs with cancer and repaired hearts and blood vessels fucked up by cigarettes. It ain’t worth it, quit. I still have smoking dreams, even after six years without a Marlboro.
PIQUANT my new favorite word. It used to be NEFARIOUS
I think “piquant” was just what was on top on his word-of-the-day desk calendar. Again, Time Magazine, I invite you to have intercourse with yourself. The only time I read you is when someone has misplaced the Sports Illustrated at the oil-change place. Feh.
Time is an example of studied, determined, unfailing irrelevancy.
No useful information. Nothing to give people a basis for action.
Sort of like Kraft Salad Dressing to our very own Colman’s Dry Mustard.
Very Piquant post, TRex — very piquant . . .
Seriously, what’s wrong with the Dinosaur Media (even the lefties) is that they really, really try to be “Fair and Balanced.” The wing nut media uses the term, because the Big Lie is as close to “Fair and Balanced” as they’re gonna get — but the Big Lie is what the wing nuts are all about under any circumstances.
Even Salon and The Nation and The American Prospect try to be “Fair and Balanced” — at a time when launching armored divisions against the fascists bunkers is more appropriate.
The GOP Gangsters understand this; the Democrats and the media do not.
The MSM still doesn’t get the blogosphere, doesn’t know what to do with us, but has just enough awareness to perceive us as a threat and rail against us accordingly.
I especially like your point that they lost our trust because they didn’t do their jobs and for the most part still aren’t. What is so galling is that while they are the professionals we are often able to do a better job of fact checking and analysis than they do. How many reporters, editors, and commentators screwed up on a regular basis at the NYT, WaPo, Time, Newsweek, and the network and cable news channels? It might be an amusing net project to write short bios on them just to remind ourselves how often they get it wrong, pander, or show outright bias.
What is up with MSM’s obsession and 2008. Hello, what about now. Oh I get it they need shelf life since the only place I see/read Time Magazine is in a doctors office.
Bacon Jr. must be a wonkette new hire.
cleter @ 18
Actually, Goldwater would be deemed a middle-to-liberal these days.
Before he died, he came out as pro-choice.
He would not recognize his party right now. And that’s sad.
(See? The journalist inside me is screamimng: “No! Don’t start a sentence with “And”! That’s bad!)
I digress…
Back.
Did I miss anything?
the most surprising thing I heard today on CNN was that, in essense, the “White House response” to Bill’s careful explanation, he lied…
wonder if the press will follow up on that strange assertion…
TRex @ 28
I used the F word quite a bit. Sorry.
Here’s Bush’s attempt at a mulligan, i.e., the parts of the compromise Military Commissions Act that seem intended to let him off the hook for past war crimes. Recall that in February 2002, on advice from Gonzales, he issued an executive order that the Geneva Conventions don’t apply to GWoT detainees, and the Supreme Court has ruled otherwise.
So, now by (8)(b)(2), Bush’s Executive Order of February 2002 becomes retroactively valid in spite of what the Supreme Court says. So those things that his “young professionals” did and their bosses authorized weren’t war crimes after all. Right?
There’s only one problem, (8)(b)(2) give retroactive applicability only to “[t]he ammendments made by this subsection [(8)(b)].” “Presidential Interpretation” is Subsubsection (8)(a)(3). Hmmmmm.
At this point I must defer to those with legal training. Sigh!
well, I haven’t used the F word today… perhaps I should give it a try…
cleter @ 30
And we’re trying to get you to kick the habit… and listen to Rufus Wainright!
Other than that, ummm,… no other life-controlling talk. Really.
;)
I think if we learned anything from World War II, aside from “nuclear weapons sure are powerful,” it’s that you don’t get mulligans for war crimes.
OldCoastie @ 32
Umm is’nt this thread about the P word?
trueblue @ 33
Cigarettes are the real reason dinosaurs became extinct.
SIGH I have insomnia. Am up with a cup of warm milk. Make me sleepy, gang. (Piquant post, TRex. *G*)
P is the new F!
*ooabby @ 35
oh fuck piquant!
OldCoastie @ 32
OK, if no else will do it, I will “France”. So there.
TRex @ 36
Oh. I thought it was the iridium and asteroids and shit. Also, in a Disney movie I saw in science class in junior high, little mammals liked to eat the dinosaur’s eggs.
Ok lil’ Perrykins, now we’re getting a handle where you come from:
“Back in Caldwell, Seth Claude and his girlfriend Chaille say they are taking things slowly. “We sit next to each other on the bus and at lunch,” he says. And when they get together, they often wind up talking about genital warts.
—With reporting by Perry Bacon Jr./Washington and Adam Pitluk/Caldwell”
From a good ol’ Fundie hangout web called “The Foundation Gateway – A Christian Resource and Index Directory“.
Must be that ol’ affirmative action hiring thingie at TIME. You know, where they got to get them some more wingnut fundies on staff.
?OldCoastie @ 39
cleter at 41 — oh sure. Blame the warm blooded, hairy creatures.
TRex @ 36
I would love to see a picture of a T-Rex with a butt in his mouth!
(cig.butt!!!)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 44
What?! It was in a movie! A Disney movie! Movies can’t lie!
Piquant= stimulating to the taste, pleasantly sharp or biting.
exciting interest and stimulating, provocative. Thanks Jennifer for
attempting to minimize the clout of this community but instead
it truly shows who you are shilling for. How scarred is the MSM
and the right of us? Truth to power does shake them up a bit-
All those long cayenne peppers in my garden are dead ripe, hot
and PIQUANT. Just what the people of America need to bite down on wake up and get they blood aroused and retake this country back.
Long live piquant blogs like Firedoglake!
Mad Dogs @ 42
Uh.
Mah.
Gawd.
“The thread went swimmingly until Mad Dogs brought up the subject of genital warts…”
FYI, I just wrote up a bit more from the recent event with Jesse Jackson here in Columbus. He talked about “wolf in sheep’s clothing” politics. I thought I’d have some fun with Photoshop…
Was that Disney’s “Path to 65 million BC”? Did it blame Clinton for the dinosaur’s extinction?
TRex @ 28
I tend to check my horoscope in the mornings because it is usually the most accurate thing in my local daily news paper. The other day it asked me how much caffeine, sugar and nicotine were a part of my daily diet. Higher percentages mean you win right?
Thanks for the Morrissey!
Watching it, I kept thinking, “Gee, too bad we don’t have Terri Shiavo around anymore – TRex could have used Girlfriend in a Coma.”
*ooabby @ 43
Fuquant?
Mr Bacon is just upset that he can’t rail against us for wearing baseball hats in theaters, because some other extinct journo beat him to it.
Mr Bacon, you should go after us for wearing white after Labor Day. Back in your day, it just wasn’t done…and you do so seem to prefer the good old days!
I’m watching a PBS documentary on the Billie Jean King/Bobby Riggs match waaaay back when… that was an interesting night – I was in college at the time – there musta been 200 of us rooting Billie Jean on…
Interesting now to hear how she figured out how to beat him… played the ball softly (until she didn’t) and ran his ass ragged…
T-Rex, good post, but I have to say I believe the press is bought and paid for, and it wasn’t through subscriptions. That makes them irrelevant to me. I live for the time when they’re irrelevant to everyone. (I know…dream on.)
Perry Bacon, Jr., who contributed reporting to the Time story, told Campaign Desk that he found the SUV information for the article on the RNC web site. “Using their research I was able to ask the [Kerry] campaign, ‘I read that you owned these cars,’ and I was able to get a response,” said Bacon. “That was helpful.” He added that the RNC’s research sped up his reporting process, “made it very easy to check the clips and then use it.”
AND
9-22-2006
All the ‘News’ That’s Fit to Charge $19,000 For
Paul McLeary
The stories about the prevalence of “fake news” just keep coming, and now it looks like CNN has been fingered by the Buffalo News as a news organization that runs paid content dressed up to look like an actual news report.
Both from: http://www.cjrdaily.org/ REAL-TIME MEDIA CRITICISM FROM THE COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW
Christy! Oh, yay!! What a treat to have you here on a Late Nite thread.
Insomnia, huh? I have a couple of different ways of fighting that. One is to turn around in bed so that my head is where my feet go. This is especially good when you have been tossing and turning in the same hot-faced spot on the bed for a while. It just seems cooler and less breathed-in at the other end of the bed.
Of course, with Beloved Husband in the other side of the bed, you might do well to try this in a guest bed or on the sofa.
Crackers and milk. Cracker sandwiches (saltines, jam, cream cheese).
Umm…sometimes for me, it’s just all about getting cooler. A cool compress seems to slow my racing thoughts when I have insomnia, uh…there’s always cranking the A/C and pretending you are a polar bear snuggling in a snow bank.
And there’s always finding something dull to read.
I found “piquant” a rather entertaining phrase … politer than “rabid” but a touch tame for the strength of our voices. Still, a rather charming word.
Jacqrat @ 52
It applies to Ken Mehlman, too, that “Girlfriend in a Coma” song.
Thanks, Trex — I think the warm milk may be doing the trick. I just had a huge yawn. So I’m going to stop researching for tomorrow’s articles, finish my milk, and head up to bed soon. But I’ll keep the crackers in mind if this doesn’t work.
This is what I get for actually taking a nap this afternoon. I thought I was doing myself a favor catching up on sleep. Instead, my body now hates me. Blergh…
FBI Is Casting a Wider Net in Anthrax Attacks
Five years after deadly attacks, FBI is convinced powder sent to the Senate contained nothing that conclusively links the case to any specific source.
http://tinyurl.com/muqub
TRex at 60 — HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA *spews milk*
A little warning next time… *G*
OldCoastie @ 55
I remember that, I was in college too.
All the women were yelling for Billie Jean and the men were saying “ah, he can take her.”
HA!
When I’m feeling paricularly piquant and can’t sleep, I do my favorite relaxation exercise. Starting a the scalp, mentally go down your entire body, relaxing each muscle in turn. Don’t forget the tongue, cheeks, forehead, chest and breathing muscles and abs.
I keep getting off-track at about the shoulders, but two or three tries usually gets it done.
Tem cocktail weenies are piquant.
It’s the mainstream media’s job to “misunderestimate” us. Five years from now, Condoleezza Rice and Don Rumsfeld and Joe Lieberman will be disgraced, unemployed, and making the talk show rounds saying, “No one could have predicted how powerful the netroots would become.”
Yup. That’s because they believed what they read the mainstream press.
T-Rex,
Si, I have been saying thees for at least a year, now.
Let them continue to underestimate us, let them conveence each other that we are powerless, old hat, yesterday’s blog etc…
Eet weel just be that much sweeter when we take back our party from las Democratistas Invertebradas, and use eet like a club to drive the Republiculos and their eelk from the seat of power for a generation.
Meeeeeeeeooooooooooowwwargh!
so.
I would just like to take this opportunity to tell Dick Cheney to go piquant himself.
Of course it is; it’s called self-defense. The word “piquant” does nothing to save the mainstream media from the fact that they’ve handed over pretty much the entire concept of investigative journalism to the blogosphere, but I’m sure they’ll realize that after it’s too late.
Mommybrain @ 65
see now, I start at the feet and pretend I’m a big bag of sand that is spilling out of the bottom of the bag… never get much past the knees before I fall asleep…
Mad Dogs – I think the fundie page with the Perry Bacon cite was a collection of articles from the MSM, not articles written by the fundie group – it’s clearer in the article below that where they specifically attribute it to the AP. I think Perry has been with Time for rather a while and, while I might critique his analysis, I don’t think he’s a fundie hire.
Now his praise for the Repub site is a whole ‘nother thing!
Piquant and Pungent. Huh.
TR, you sure can write. Got a book in ya? I’d buy it.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 26
I think it’s that entertainment thing they have to do. You know, grab our sorry little attention spans by giving us a nice sexy mud wrestling contest cleverly disguised as a political campaign. Act like lying winger as**ole windbags are as vital and important as 35-year vets and successful, articulate former presidents.
No fair trying to review complex policy details, multiple local election trends, House and Senate leadership dynamics, and the shifting media marketplace. Nope. Dumb ‘em down, wrap it up in a few choice words and a few simple concepts; we’ve got soap (cars/jeans/meds/loans) to sell. I mean, these people can’t wait to get this messy 2006 thing over with so they can spend the next two friggin years beating the 08 election to death. Gosh that’ll be fun.
I’d say turn ‘em all off, but damn I’m still addicted to the LA Times at 6AM on my breakfast table. (And following who’s gonna end up owning that paper is almost as much fun as the sports page.)
�El Gato Negro! @
67
EL GATO NEGRO!!!!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, we have officially arrived.
So.
OldCoastie @ 32
“Falafel?” Or was that somebody else…?
Hmmmmmm, that question mark, she should be an upside down exclamation point.
& i e x c l ; not & i q u e s t ;
Oh well, I shall just consider eet as adding to the mystery, no?
so.
EvilDrPuma @ 73
LOO-fahhhh, LOO-faaaaahhh, LOOO-faaaaaaaahhhh…
ET – your comments at 19 are so true! Though I believe our Jane spoke to Perry preKO and was probably quite piquant in her comments.
Piquant: lively, stimulating, or interesting; provocative.
I agree with Mr. Bacon, Jr. on this one word. Only.
El Gato Negro!
play ‘em soft (until we don’t) and run their asses ragged…
TRex @ 76
I’ve been skimming through Olbermann’s book. It’s worth the price of admission just to see the glee he takes in slamming O’Reilly.
OldCoastie, I tried he sand one, now my feet feel all floppy!
keyboard still ant-adled on R and T.
Another one I like but sometimes hypnotize myself instead of drifting off is the giant tree:
Enter a giant tree through the small hobbit door you find. Inside is sometimes an elevator, sometimes a beautiful wooden spiral staircase. Start going down, counting slowly to ten as you descend. Feel the descent. At each ten=count, look around and see where you are, then keep going until you’re in dreamland.
I found that final paragraph about the supposed lack of humor on the left to be pretty telling. Humor, like beauty, is in the eye (or perhaps the ear) of the beholder. If Bacon, Jr. finds even the angriest voices on the right to be “funny” – such as Coulter or Limbaugh or Malkin, I assume – then Jr. buys into the assumptions that fuel their “humor.”
One side’s hilarious snarkiness is going to come across as mean-spirited snideness to the other side, and vice versa.
I find plenty of biting (if not pungent) humor on the left, be it James Wolcott or TRex, but no doubt I enjoy it as “funny” because I share the irony and frustrations that fuel the humor. But if one is mainly working from conservative stereotypes about the left (they are humorless, PC, shrill, and far outside the mainstream), then one isn’t going to see things that don’t fit that model.
Stereotypes often have some truth to them (otherwise they’d wield little power over people’s perceptions). But using stereotypes as one’s primary filter in seeing others causes one to filter out everything that doesn’t match the stereotype as being special case exceptions.
This isn’t just a weakness of the right. Many on the left do it as well. But it is telling to see which filters that Bacon, Jr. has in place.
Siun @ 71
Siun, you’re absolutely right.
I was merely trying out that ol’ KKKarl character assassination trick.
You know, the one where everything I said was all true, just not all of the truth?
Sure works, don’t it? *g*
Mad Dogs @ 83
Well, there was a *lot* of talk about Mr. Bacon’s associations with a right wing christian site…
Time magazine can kiss my ass. The whole tone of the article has a defensiveness to it like the author is trying to talk us into what he’s saying. I repeat, kiss my big, blogging ass.
TRex…I featured Elissa in a post today…her music really touched me.
OldCoastie,
si, run their culos off.
The phrase El Gato Negro! always hears ees “choose your battles”, wheech ees usually translated eento the need to eternally “keep your powder dry” as eef dry powder were the cure-all for political wounds.
The phrase El Gato Negro! weeshes to hear ees no “choose your battles” as much as eet ees “pick your targets”.
After all we have been een a “battle” for at least twelve years now, and the targets are multiplying, now ees the time to use some of thees mytical “dry powder” of wheech we hear so much, eh?
so.
Mommybrain! You aren’t s’possed do the sand thing when you are typing on the computer! You gotta wait until you are in bed!
no wonder your feet are all floppy!
For our Tori fans out there, I stumbled upon a cool song that soooo reminded me of her… enjoy!
I have no idea how old or new it is, I just heard it tonight though :)
i may have that in my gay porn collection…I’ll get back to you
geez, Hope, I never quite pictured you with a gay porn collection…
Amigos, I fear my first veeseet, she weel be an abbreviated one, eh?
I assure joo all that joo have no seen the last of El Gato Negro!
Adios todos los perritos del fuego, and to T-Rex as well
so.
Kurt @ 89
New Kurt… i like Regina Spektor
Adios, El Gato!
come back soon!
OldCoastie @ 91
Old Coastie…You have no idea…
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 94
LMAO!
Who needs Time Magazine when we have the blog of our own MarcLord, where you can find links to both Cat Power’s UTube retrospective of Curt Cobain and Jane on KO.
After they relentlessly derided Senator Hillary Clinton as calculating, overly cautious and lacking true liberal bona fides, she hired an adviser just to deal with them
The “unwashed masses” have a voice now, and a lot of people aren’t happy with that.
Oh, well.
Hi RBG…i had a conversation with shoe and we talkeda bout you alot. Nice to see you!
OldCoastie @
96
I don’t even have a gay porn collection.
Hilary was a republican before she married Bill. her ‘credentials’ should be left wanting based on her postioning and voting record.
What can I say? Man-on-Man sex is totally hot. Str8 porn looks forced and fake to me. The Boys all look happy to be there.
I think I love this Regina Spektor song. But I hear as much Bjork as Tori Amos.
Ok…I’m gonna have a shot of tequila…Anyone?
It’s Peter Baker’s turn in the W-fellating box at the WaPo tomorrow:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00747.html
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 103
bourbon, water, on the rocks, please…
I’ve read quite a few commentaries on the blogosphere in dead-tree publications like TIME, and I have yet to come upon one that says anything like, “Isn’t it wonderful that we have this brand new blog thing which gives voice to everyday citizens, and gives us hope for a movement toward more grassroots direct democracy.”
Not once have I heard anything like that from the Pundits on High, or any other agency of the Big Apparatus for the Preservation of the Status Quo (BAPSQ.)
Just a coke for me.
I turned to the blogs, starting with Buzzflash when W was first coronated. I am repelled by mainstream media, not only because of the clear bias, but because they convey lousy journalism.
Take a look at a Time Magazine from the 1960’s or early 1970’s, and compare it with an issue today. Time has become The Enquirer, but more saccharine. When they started running “Jesus” issues every two months I gave up complete. They may sell like hotcakes, but not to me.
The mainstream media will denegrate the blogs, because they recognize them for what they are: the birth of a whole new media. The Lamont win was a milestone less for Ned (tho’ a fine candidate he is) but for showing that the new media has TEETH. That fact is such an earthquake that it was worth faking a terror alert to get it off the news.
Consider where we’d be without the Internet as a new medium. Is there any other source out there you trust anymore?
TRex @ 103
Listened to another of her songs on YouTube, and thought she was more like Kate Bush myself hehe…something about the prominence of the piano reminded me of Tori.
HSAT- whatever she said, I can almost guarantee it’s mutual…unless you were talking with her about your gay porn collection.
what if you think nirvana sucks ???
does that mean you gotta like winger ???
suicide isn’t an option here ???
the best thing about bad writting is they don’t play it on the radio …
oh, wait, scratch that
the mighty wurlitzer is hitting a lot of sour notes lately
that puppy just might crash and burn soon
I can’t wait to see tweety’s “deer in the headlights” look in November
when the netroots kill hilary’s nomination chances, tweety is gonna lose it
here’s your Coke, TRex…
and I haven’t got any kind of porn collection at all…
I went to a job interview years ago at our local paper. They were looking for copy-editors. Before the interview was even started, the frosty blond human resources director told me that I was wasting my time.
“We only hire people out of the journalism school,” she said.
“Well, maybe that’s why your paper is riddled with errors,” I replied.
I didn’t get the job.
I can’t imagine why not.
TRex @
114
Your brother just emailed me screaming FIX IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! or something equally subtle. About a typo.
I take it this runs in the family?
Wasn’t it Upton Sinclar that said that it is impossible to make a person understand something when their paycheck depended on not understanding it(or something close to that).
Jane Hamsher @ 115
Sigh.
It is a genetic affliction, it would appear, yes.
And incurable.
geez, I’ll have to be more careful with my typing… and stop guessing how to spell words!
Jane Hamsher @
115
Um…. heh.
Yes.
Um, has anyone but me tried the Dulce de leche Oreos, yet? Ohmigod!!
I was just showing that email to the missus because she asked me what I was laughing about, and she said, “But babe… there’s a typo in your email…”
and she was right. It’s not in the genes, it must be in the water.
btw, just a little bragging here: She and I harvested 30 pounds of sweet potatoes today. We peeled them, cubed them, boiled them, mashed them and froze them. That means pie, bread and souffls all winter.
Is Christy still awake? She’s country like us… she’ll understand!
TRex @ 119
no, but they sound good!
all right, firepups… good night!
gotta be fresh for all my little ones in the morning!
wow … el gato negro!
we’ve been blessed!
(and btw, my refresh comments button has quit working … just a note in case it’s a common problem)
Siun @ 123
Working just fine here.
RBG @ 111
nope..no gay porn talk…lol
Hey, Hopey, Elissa’s memorial service is a week from today. I am writing and delivering her eulogy. I have been trying to figure out for days how to put even a tenth of who she was into words. I am so glad you enjoy her music.
then it’s me Trex – I just can’t seem to get refreshed!
and should be asleep now but sharing Christy’s insomnia and not quite ready for the go to sleep meditation stuff
no oreos here but daughter wants the ingredients for tres leches which sounds really sinful! anyone had this cake soaked in milk before – I had never heard of it.
The name Perry Bacon sounded awfully familiar to me, so I did a quick google. Confirmed that he is the very same “reporter” to whom Demetrius and I lost an hour of our lives in early 2004. He interviewed us for a “what next for the Deaniacs” piece. Apparently we didn’t give him the quote he was fishing for–think he wanted us to say that we were throwing our support to Edwards–so he didn’t use *any* of what we said.
So it doesn’t especially surpise me that he wrote this piece too.
Siun @ 127
Oh my gosh. What is this cake soaked in milk of which you speak?
amazing – Jesus General – who I adore! – has created a blog ad for the postcard to senators campaign based on our Dave’s work last night – folks should check it out and can download the postcard image there – then print it out and send or fax it to your Senators!
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
see the Premium Ad
then it’s me Trex – I just can’t seem to get refreshed!
Awww, are you having that not so refreshed feeling?
You should try Blogger’s Eve!
Trex … here you go – Tres Leches!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/foo…..10,00.html
Daughter had it at a party and it made a very big impression!
okay … I’m heading to sleep …
Trex – s’wonderful as always!
and … yes … piquant!
Well, brother, looks like just you and me.
How was your day?
I think I passed up an opportunity to try that cake today because I didn’t know what it was. I was at a picnic and nobody seemed to be able to tell me what it was or who brought it. I should have just made the leap, but a man has to be very judicious with the space on his dessert plate.
Great post and Wow, you quoted my favorite move of all time. (”You keep saying that word, but I don’t think eet means what you theenk it does…”)
TRex @ 135
That hasn’t been my experience…. you can always pile a dessert plate a little higher, esp. if it’s FREE…
mutzali @ 136
You keelled my father. Prepare to die.
TRex @ 138
Stop SAYING that…
one-shot drive-by, sorta on topic.
from Waiting on the World to Change, a current bluesy pop song by John Mayer, whose previous work (at least what makes on the radio) was mostly limited to innocuous, pleasant and bouncy heart-throb stuff:
alas, the rest of the message is all too passive:
I read about Elissa’s memorial at Angry Biscuit’s place ( http://angry-biscuit.livejournal.com/ ) Thanks for leading us to his site as well as bringing elissa to our world.
Sorry. He’s been mostly dead all day.
mutzali @ 142
Gee, if he was all the dead you could at least go through his pockets for change.
Okay. Time for bed. I have a staff meeting in the morning.
Thanks for coming, y’all!
As you wish.
Bye bye boys. Have fun storming the castle.
T-rex, I found the dinosaurs and cigarettes picture, ’tis small but the best I could find
From the Far side
The real reason dinosaurs became extinct
And meant to mention great post!
drouse @ 143
Jeeze, just what is the time limit for editing your own comment? I have this bad habit of leaving out whole words and it is embarassing. It should have read
mutzali @
146
Do you think it’ll woik?
‘Night kids…sweet dreams. take good care of eachother and remember, we have providence on our side.
Love, HopeSaT
Speaking of the Princess Bride, what about the line: Never get involved in a land war in Asia? Prescient or what?
The consistently great analyses and writing in serious blogs like this one are obviously a big threat to MSM paper-waisting journalists. They’ve been found out as light thinkers and cowardly writers, and sense they might be searching Craigs List for some kind of new writing job: maybe advertising or technical manuals. Plus, they don’t get no respect anymore.
This makes them a natural ally of Repugs, who wish to downplay bloggers’ importance.
Smell the fear and resentment! Ha!
Our favorite conservative John Dean has a few thoughts on bringing terrorists to justice.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060922.html
Juan Cole is pissed at Mike Wallace’s assertion in the Clinton interview, that Wallace had “asked questions.” He goes back and looks at how Wallace has adled past interviews about Al Qaeda, Richard Clarke, etc:
http://www.juancole.com/2006/0…..s-and.html
TRex @
150
It’ll take a miracle! :~)
yeah, I ran into this Time article earlier this evening…
No wonder this magazine is regulated to dentists’ offices and Great Clips across the nation.
Blah, blah, blah, bloggers suck, read us…
Me, I’m for free press!!!! Long live the BLOG!
Really, though, my myspace sucks…Maybe Time based their article on my myspace?
OT Coingate:
Toledo Blade
[….]
“On Thursday and again yesterday, WTOL-TV Channel 11 ran interviews with the Noes, showcasing the beauty of their residence in the Florida Keys while including clips of them singing in church. Soft piano music played in the background.
By yesterday morning, Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge Thomas Osowik had had enough.
In a pretrial conference, Judge Osowik called the recent media interviews with the Noes “disturbing” and castigated Noe’s attorney to stop such “manipulation of the judicial process.” ‘[….]
Margot @ 158
God, isn’t just amazing that all these people end up with houses in Florida? Just like O.J.. Must have something to do with not having their residences subject to confiscation.
Piquant Wit!
Pungent Prose!
Peevishly Prankster-esque!
They are, of course, not completely wrong in what they say. It’s as it should be for Left and Right to banter like this. But what they miss when they say “But even the angriest people on the right tend to be funny” or “the Netroots, the Democratic Party’s equivalent of a punk garage band – edgy, loud and antiauthoritarian – are suddenly on the verge of the big time” is that this is not only the kind of dialogue that has characterized political argument since the invention of language. This is about more than Right and Left. It’s about right and wrong.
Our government is being run by genuine fanatics disguised as Religious Conservatives or Right-Wingers, criminals of a kind that we’ve not seen. Oh, we’ve had our criminals before, but we’ve never had people who seize control the media, lie as a matter of course, and make changes in the fundamental fabric of the country to suit their unacknowledged fascism. Wouldn’t it be nice to have some good old timey Conservatives to fight with?
Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh aren’t funny – they’re poinsonous. Our blogs are hopefully more than garage bands, they’re a spontaneously arising force to combat the Media having gone to sleep at the worst of times. The net-roots have already succeeded in combatting a lot of that.
And, by the way, don’t most great bands start in garages with the volume turned up too loud? Drowning out the likes of Coulter and Limbaugh is hard work, but exposing the likes of Cheney and Bolton is even harder – more the stuff of our Founders dealing with King George…
Mickey @ 160
The similarites between the Georges is very apt. King George III was not right in the head. Just like our current George. The reason is most likely the same, inbreeding. The old money just doesn’t marry anyone. Like royalty, only the right people are allowed in.
drouse @ 154
I hope Russ has this in mind when he lets loose tomorrow. Dean is correct, of course.
Seeing as it looks like everyone else has gone to bed, I am going to follow suit. Goodnite all.
drouse @ 152
prescient ???
or just blatently fucking obviouse ???
or maybe it was inconcievable
Don’t tell me this is a kissing story, Grandpa.
Who said this? First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they get mad, then you win. I have seen the first 2 and we are now on the 3rd. Yay! Almost over!
And go back and watch KOS on Keith Olbermann’s show, the day of the Conn. primary, before they knew who won. (It is on CrooksAndLiars archives.) Olbermann was nice, but rather clueless about a couple of things — or maybe he knew, but was talking to his audience. He fretted that if LIEberman lost, the MSM would put down the blogs. KOS correctly told him, “They are gonna put us down either way. WHATEVER!” It was great to see a blogger tell someone on a MSM show that we don’t CARE what the MSM says about us.
Inigo Montoya @
164
That was Douglas MacArthur to JFK, when Kennedy visited the old soldier in Walter Reed hospital, if I remember correctly…..
Oh, for Pete’s sake. Was HopeSat here earlier cranking up the heat about her gay porn collection? Again??
Makes me sweat just thinking about — wait, we didn’t talk about it. We didn’t.
I swear.
Suzanne @ 165
As You Wish…! ;~)
Hey Nate. Looks like everyone’s gone to bed.
Not quite yet. Though I’d better or I’ll never be able to paint in 7 hours.
For your reading pleasure: the Nedster – Getting His Act Together and Taking it On the Road.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09…..amont.html
The day is yet a thin band of light along the edge of the horizon. The wind has started to shake and rattle the old wooden frame windows, and the 50 degrees of temperature felt much cooler when I opened the door to look at the contellation of stars above. So with coffee water heating, and the smallest fire starting amidst the kindling & birch bark, I wish you all a good morning, and may it bring the blessings of peace & justice for one and all.
And to start your day out with a boost, the leaked NIE……..
(snip)
Bush has argued repeatedly in pre-election speeches that Iraq is the central front in the war on terrorism and that demands for a US troop withdrawal from the country by the opposition Democrats underscores why the center-left party should not be trusted with the nation’s security.
“The security of the civilized world depends on victory in the war on terror, and that depends on victory in Iraq,” Bush said in one speech on August 31.
Such assertions were looking decidedly shaky Sunday after The New York Times and The Washington Post released details of the classified National Intelligence Estimate, the most comprehensive assessment yet of the war, based on analyses of all 16 of America’s intelligence agencies.
The report, Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States, says “the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse,” an official familiar with the document told The Times.
The Washington Post said the report described the Iraq conflict as the primary recruiting vehicle for violent Islamic extremists.
(snip)
Leaked intelligence report rocks Bush election stance
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20…..attackiraq
Syria and the US: Fellow Travelers at the Crossroads for Terrorism
Commentary: When President Bush made torture a centerpiece of his foreign policy, it bound the US to the world’s worst human rights abusers.
By Amy Goodman and David Goodman
“When President Bush made torture a centerpiece of his foreign policy, he bound himself intimately to the world’s worst human rights abusers. When it comes to torture, as Maher Arar learned, Syria and the U.S. are fellow travelers at the “crossroads for terrorism.”
http://www.motherjones.com/com…../arar.html
The Bush/Negroponte Rebuttal of the NIE….
Negroponte Highlights U.S. Successes
Intelligence View That War Is Increasing Terror Is ‘Fraction of Judgments,’ He Says
(snip) The document, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (Mass.) said in a statement, “should be the final nail in the coffin for President Bush’s phony argument about the Iraq war. (snip)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..86_pf.html
Suzanne @ 170
Me too now Suzanne. Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. It’s nice to know I’m not the only one who can recite any line from the Princess Bride. I even have the MP3 of the closing song, Story Book Love.
I’m off to bed myself now. I was up til’ five am last night. Not tonight though. Aloha to you.
By the way… You don’t by chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand do you?
Good morning! OS, what are you doing up so early?
It is too early today for outrage — but that hasn’t stopped me –
Will the leaked NIE somehow slow and halt the terror legislation? Is there a way to tie the two together to prevent the Repubs from passing the detention nill?
Oh Imm, just couldn’t sleep, I guess. (Not one of my greater talents *g*) Never too early or to late for outrage in my book. I just wish we didn’t have so many reasons for it NOW. And I do hope we can get a filibuster going before they outlaw filibuster. Seems like it’s about time for that one to rear its head, don’t you think? No time to stop and rest before the next spin gets spun.
I’ll spend a fair amount of time on the phone today chewing ears in DC–I sure do love the flat rate phone service–and being even a little active politically sure makes me get my money’s worth!!
Mornin’ OS and Imm.
Had the blustery wind here yesterday evening, OS. In fact, it’s the beginning of months of steady wind here on our hill. The biggest mistake I made, when building our house, was not to fight harder for the wind generator. We could be net-metering almost the whole year.
Need to send some postcards today!
Liberal online activists are finding you can’t move elections with just modems and IM…
Heh. Tell that to Ned Lamont.
Good morning to my fellow early risers. Got up about three because I have two deadlines this morning.
But while I was waiting for the caffeine to kick in, spent a few minutes browsing the news and came across Ariel Dorfman’s guest editorial in Sunday’s WaPo.
It may already have been discussed in one of yesterday’s posts, but these paragraphs especially struck home:
Can’t the United States see that when we allow someone to be tortured by our agents, it is not only the victim and the perpetrator who are corrupted, not only the “intelligence” that is contaminated, but also everyone who looked away and said they did not know, everyone who consented tacitly to that outrage so they could sleep a little safer at night, all the citizens who did not march in the streets by the millions to demand the resignation of whoever suggested, even whispered, that torture is inevitable in our day and age, that we must embrace its darkness?
Are we so morally sick, so deaf and dumb and blind, that we do not understand this? Are we so fearful, so in love with our own security and steeped in our own pain, that we are really willing to let people be tortured in the name of America?
I’m going to include these in emails to some key senators later today. Here’s the link to the whole thing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01303.html
Morning everyone,
Excellent question imm:
BTW, WaPo online chat today, “Outlook: Why Torture Doesn’t Work” Edwidge Danticat
Author, “The Dew Breaker” September 25, 2006; 1:00 ET
DM, know what you mean about the wind. DH couldn’t stand to look at a wind generator, alas, but it is our most fervent intentionto replace all the windows, starting with the North and West sides, & put up a solar panel or two in the not too distant future. This economy is not kind to folks like us with small esoteric businesses so it may be just a window or two at a time (hate giving credit cards any credit!).
Mention of Edwidge Danticat and Ariel Dorfman in subsequent comments!!!!!
I think the Dorfman article was mentioned, but it deserves mention and forwarding widely.
Liberal online activists are finding you can’t move elections with just modems and IM…
It isn’t as effective as the conservative use of modems and unsecure electronic ballots.
Old Sow, I just read the Dorfman article. Powerful and gut-wrenching.
Morning pups
I still think Torture photo post cards that Siun helped organize are the strongest message to send.
I intend to send them, not only to Chcuk and Hillary and Peter King (who will doubtless go postal when he sees it), I think we want to sendd them to the newspapers and TeeVee to see if we can generate a story or two in the MSM
Morning LHP and LindyH. Got a lot of work to do today, don’t we? I am grateful for my flat rate phone contract!! Hoping that the NIE doesn’t get whitewashed. Imm above suggested tying the two together. Works for me……
Howdy, lhp and all the rest of you early bird FirePups.
Trying to gird the loins with caffeine here, preparing to call the Senator’s office with a proposal for a poison pill to be inserted in appropriations bill.
Morning all — new post will be arriving shortly. How is everyone this morning?
I do not believe they have a fillibuster proff majority. All the dems have to do is stall this for one lousy week.
One week.
I can talk that long myself
CHS
How are you and Mr. ReddHedd and the peanut?
Is the little one off to school already?
‘morning, all… where’s my coffee? ah, there it is!
yup, I’m calling today too with the poison pill thought… I figure if shrubya finds references to human dignity too vague, the Senators ought to be able to clarify it for him.
Morning, Christy. I dreamed of armaggedon (or however you spell that) last night and thought in my dream that the NeoCons aim to be the “remnant”. They own everything anyway…or have stolen it.
Morning everyone. I’m coffeing up, and getting ready to make phone calls. Actually, I get to call some pretty reasonable people: Leahy, Jeffords, Bernie Sanders, Peter Welch. Busy times. I’m going to get cracking, but I’ll be back.
Oh, and TRex, another great post. I’m spotlighting it.
say, does anybody know if shrubya is still supposed to show up tonight at the Superbowl for Monday Night Football?
oh, that will be rich!
New Post Upstairs!
By the way, good morning FDL, I’m skipping the coffee for some tea this morning. (I’ve got a bug or something)
Here’s the new thread.
Another reason for the Blogosphere’s continuing growth at the expense of Traditional Media (beyond “It’s The War, Stupid”) is its ability to keep up in Real Time. Who wants news/opinion that’s so ‘5 minutes ago’ when you don’t have to settle for that anymore?
Like John Lennon once said, “The leftyblogs are the ni-, uh, woman of the world.”
Like John Lennon once said, “Leftyblog is the ni-, uh, woman of the world.”
Too bad being peaceful, nurturing and compassionate is such a bad thing in the rough, tough USofA.
I can’t believe anyone can say this:
The Time piece said:
Wrong about why, but possibly right. If Dems capture both houses this Nov., we will NOT get the presidency. It will be an electoral generation before the american people allow one party control.
(I live in rural Maine, and help with the counting of our paper ballots. It is a very common pattern in general elections: president from one party; everybody else from the other.)
Once the world heard Kurt Cobain’s guitar, all that spandex and hairspray and makeup on the likes of Ratt, Warrant, and Poison was revealed for the preening frippery that it was.
HEY, that preening frippery helped me survive the toxic musical dumping ground known as the ’80s. You think Wall of Voodoo or Men Without Hats was gonna get you outta bed and off to work in the morning. NOT. One more bad night with the Cure, and I was ready to shoot myself while jumping off the roof.
When my 12-yr-old nephew stopped by, nearly breathless, waving a tape cassette around and searching for a player, little did I know the world was about to change. I remember those first strains of “Smells like Teen Spirit,” and it was done. I was done.
Blogs are to political discourse what Nirvana was to music. Anyone writing the kind of clap trap hooey Perry Bacon did for Time has an axe to grind, period.
-GFO
Um, minor quibble. Nirvana shocked the world with FOUR chords. My reaction to all that was a little different; it was more like – hey, how did my music get on the radio?
Major slag: the shrieking mobs on the right are funny? That’s a new one. Assassinate Chavez! Haw, haw, hawr! Mexicans are lazy! AHAHAHAHAH! Macaca! Whoooo-weee! Ragpicker! HAhahahaha. Black men are bad quarterbacks! HARHRHAAHRHAAA H GAHGHGH! The Senate is vicious because there are girls in it now! Hoooo ohooooh oh ooooo ho h oo hooo! Let’s kill Supreme Court justices! AAH AHAHA HAHA TOO FUNNY!
BOR was funny once; he said that “‘God’ is not a religious term”. That was very funny. Unfortunately it doesn’t count because he was serious.
Perry Bacon, Jr? I promise to laugh every time I hear your name. And should I ever meet you face to face, I will also laugh. A little too loud, a little too long, and leaning in a little too close as I laugh, right in your face.
Look, Perry, let me explain it in terms that even you might understand. Just because Rush Limbaugh does cute impressions does not mean the Right has a sense of humor. Period.
P.S. Anyone notice how the “left is not funny like those entertainers on the right” meme always comes from those sort of people with so little sense of humor that you know that groups of small children will instinctively clown them?
GordonM @
204
Say what? What have we been living with the last six years? Or do you have a different view of Congress and the Presidency up there in Maine? From where I sit, we already have one party control.
If we are Nirvana, then we better stay away from the heroin and guns…