I saw this movie last night. It was a rip!
I like screwball comedy when the actors don't play it or mug overtly for laughs. The actors here, including Greg Kinnear, Steve Carrell, Abigail Breslin and Alan Arkin all play their characters pretty straight, through desperation, humiliation and ultimately through acceptance and reconciliation. Oh, here are some reviews.
The narrative arc quickly takes the characters on a road trip, the ever ready metaphor for an inner journey. The characters suffer a series of humiliations, confrontations with those things they most dread. I think that must make them Democrats or something.
There are some subtle political elements in the film. At one typically excruciating yet subtly, insanely hilarious moment, Bush appears in a television screen at a press conference, standing next to and defending Rumsfeld. The final sequence, in fact, the destination of the family's trek is the "Little Miss Sunshine" children's beauty pageant, which must be seen to be believed. I kept thinking TBogg had been part of the writing of this screenplay, or maybe TRex. In fact, TRex called me during the movie: good thing I had the phone on silent or the others in the theater would have kicked my ass.
Anyway, the characters just kept going, on pretty much their own terms, no matter what setbacks they encountered. I can't tell you how, shall we say, aware I have been over the last two days of the issues raised by Digby, Glenn Greenwald and others linked by Jane earlier today. I know Christy is keeping us focused on GOTV because the alternative to not fighting is unimaginable, even if politicians in Washington who should know better are not fighting at all.
I've been talking and listening to a lot of people in our movement whom I respect deeply, who have varying reactions ranging from full on partisan warfare, no disunity in the ranks (and these are not shills, but real, principled progressive activists) to calls for calling out the Dems who are pulling a Claude Rains. I have even floated some ideas to well placed party contacts of mine to suggest ways we can work together to do effective, offense based messaging, drawing on lessons from our ABC/Disney experience, and have not gotten anywhere. The party is leaving us on our own, as far as I can tell. I agree unreservedly with the sense of stupefied disgust, revulsion and outrage given voice by members of this community in response to Jane's earlier post. In fact, those words don't begin to express my disposition here.
Here's where I think I come down on this, and this has been no easy couple of days for me: I will not quit. And I will not pretend that making this country a country that tortures is okay. I will not swallow hard and clap louder for the party and I will not take to the sidelines, or write in such a way that might lead others to despair, slow down, or quit.
I'm a fighter, because in this age, a person of conscience must fight. So I'm going to stay focused, especially on great candidates like Tony Trupiano and others in our Blue America entourage. When Jane made me a front pager, I made a confession to the community that I had been initially a supporter of the Iraq invasion, and that I recognize I was wrong. I felt the community had a right to know, and to discount my judgment accordingly, as people choose. I remind them of my error again tonight.
But here's what I also took from that experience: I will not drink anyone's Kool Aid again and I will not ignore the voices of those who were right, like many of our commenters here were, when I was wrong. Neither will I ignore those nagging doubts in the back of my head when these big issues of historical moment are in play.
I viscerally believe that the DC Democrats are wrong, on the politics and on moral grounds, as they strategically retreat on torture and on the whole national security "all in" Karl Rove is pulling. I hope that Bill Clinton's vehement push back on Faux News will set something of an example, somehow. Hey, like those characters in the movie, I proceed with hope, the belief in the possibility of things unseen.
But no matter what, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing, and I want to ask you to do the same, to volunteer locally, to help out our Blue America candidates as volunteers, or phone bankers or donors or whatever. Because those people are standing up, and if we quit or flag in our efforts, we're betraying them and betraying victims of American torture. Moreover, to soften our resolve is to betray ourselves, and that we cannot afford to do.
Fuck these people. For my part, I choose to keep fighting for our people. Thank God for Howie Klein.
Shit: I thought I was going to write about the movie, and look where I ended up. But I can't blow smoke at you people: this is what's on my mind. Talk about whatever you want to talk about. This is an open overnight thread.
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Pach!
Lookie what we have here.
Road Trip!!!
Yep. And everyone’s gone to bed or is getting laid.
Pachacutec @
4
Oh. Well, I guess I should…go to bed.
Maybe….. everyone is doing what Markos told us to do… turn off our computers and get out and talk to our neighbors…
Maybe we need to declare a Road Trip to Washington, D.C. so we can parade in black pointed Abu Ghraib torture hoods up and down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I’m so pissed I could just spit.
LMS is kickass. Every actor in it just did a stupendous job. How they persevere reminds me of a time when I was young and had just lost my job. An older woman said to me, “Enjoy the fall, the water’s fine.” There comes a time when you have no choice but to roll with the inevitable. Thoroughly enjoyable film.
They’re still yammering downstairs…let’s see if we can drag any of them up this way.
some of us aren’t dear …(damn) ….
ahem, just busy spreading the word about Dave’s great postcard design and trying to start an avalanche of mail to Senators this week … see Dave @98 last thread for the image and make some copies - at least for your own Senators, better yet for all of them.
katymine @ 6
Sounds good to me.
I intended this post to go up half an hour ago, but it was set with the wrong time stamp, and I did not get it fixed til late because I got, er, busy.
Awesome movie…
And since we’re doing true confessions, I was disturbed greatly by the Iraq invastion…and did nothing. I finally have starting writing letters to the administration (which I firmly believe are ignored) just so I can someday have something to tell any grandchildren I might have. That I can say that at least I stood up and objected, if nothing else.
I loved Little Miss Sunshie!
Loved it! Loved it!
It seems to stike a chord within all of us, perhaps all of our family dynamics.
It’s poingnant, how the average kid is just dancing - we all know what it is but she doesn’t — she’s just dancing, like her Grandpa taught her.
The made-up to look like sex goddess girls and their parents walk out– they have the nerve to be offended!!!
Speaks volumes about out society these days.
But hope is renewed when they all defend her.
Now that’s a family!
Pach …. don’t rub it in honey … some of us are flying solo these days!
Rub it in honey? No, I can’t say I did.
Right on, Pach. Glenn Greenwald — same thing.
Unlike our fearless leader, others live and learn from their experiences, and the ability to grow and change is cultivated and treasured.
Great post. And yeah, thank god for Howie Klein.
I found Little Miss Sunshine quite enjoyable. As Pach suggests, it is not a bad metaphor for the Democratic Party. I nominate the younger of the two father figures (the one whose daughter is competing to be Little Miss Sunshine) for the Chuck Schumer/Rahm Emanual role. Don’t talk about [suicide][homosexuality][the War]!
knew that was coming …
;-> Pach
My (democrat) neighbor and I did our 2 mile walk with Miss Dog tonght….AZ has cooled down and my neighbors have come out of their monsoon heat hybernation. Wearing my “Had Enough” ” Vote Democrat” T-shirt doing my surpentine walk through my subdivision.
Siun, you served up another one, but I’ll let this one just shoot past.
trying to work with you dear …
Siun—think you should quit while your still…oh never mind.
katymine @ 19
I was out and about with my Ned Lamont tee short on today.
Hey, Pach
Getting past my bedtime, great post!
Pachacutec @
4
(Stabbing out a cigarette and stretching languidly:)
It’s where we all end up, Pach, no matter where we start from. We can’t quit.
Pachactec,
AMEN! Thank you for your wonderful post. Especially…
“But no matter what, I’m going to keep doing what I’m doing, and I want to ask you to do the same, to volunteer locally, to help out our Blue America candidates as volunteers, or phone bankers or donors or whatever. Because those people are standing up, and if we quit or flag in our efforts, we’re betraying them and betraying victims of American torture. Moreover, to soften our resolve is to betray ourselves, and that we cannot afford to do.”
——–
I saw Little Miss Sunshine, too, and like your description of it as an allegory. It’s a gritty and bittersweet movie, and achingly funny. Steve Carrell is a revelation - who knew?
RGB - I’ll behave now … really.
silly needed after today …
Mommybrain @ 25
I hope Luke is asleep.
This torture business makes me just sick to my stomach. But, I agree with Pach’s view, we have to keep on working for election of the best available candidates. I have adopted Vic Wulsin, have given a bunch of money, and will send a bunch more, all through Act Blue, so it shows up as a netroots contribution. I am also giving to Joe Sestak.
I picked these two from the great candidates Howie Klein identified. Wulsin actually called me, dialing for dollars, and I told her we found her on this site, and that Klein was the reason we support her. I hope this will have a longer term impact.
I want my country back!
I guess that’s one thing about liberals: we may fuck around, but we. . . fuck around. At least we can get laid.
Oldcoastie is making some excellent points on the thread below about how to stop or slow down the torture bill. Part of the answer, if seems, is to force them to admit or deny the specifics regarding how far interrogation can actually go. Put riders or amendments in the bill saying, for example that rape is off limits, or that torture of the sex organs is off limits.
This is, in my opinion, a wise strategy - if Bush wants clarity in the law, let’s demand a few clear limits - like rape. Get specific about what they can’t do, get graphic, make them deny it, put them on the defensive - this is how you win this battle.
If there are any moderators in the house - I think you might want to delete #135 in the previous thread
Pach & others…. would a big push by us this week have any affect?
So many times I feel that I am screaming and screaming and there is no one there with ears…that will hear…
katymine @ 33
I expect that question will be kicked around a bit in the next 24 hours. I don’t yet know what will happen.
Right on. It’s easy to point to the off-the-charts craziness running the Repubelican party (let’s start calling them the “Republic Party” shall we?), but we must never be lulled into a false sense of complacency by so-called Democratic enablers. Names like Clinton, Gore, Kerr(e)y, Schumer ain’t gonna cut it. We KNOW that now, since they have been shoving cocktail weenies down their throats for many, many years now. And what do they have to show for it - our country is being run by a chimpanzee, and an evil one at that! True colors are already coming to the fore for 2008…
Hillary sure is putting together an All-Star team. I mean with Terry McAuliffe at the helm, what could go wrong?!?
http://politicalwire.com/archi.....l_bid.html
Hey Hillary, I hear Bob Shrum’s not too busy. He has alot of experience and has raised tons of money also. That’s what really matters, at least that’s what Chuck and Rahm say.
Seriously though, looking at McAuliffe’s Wiki entry really helps clarify what is wrong with these people. Just glowing talk about his fundraising ability and all the money he has made in his life. No mention of the disintegration of the Democratic Party under his control. Howard Dean has alot of clean up to do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe
I hope the problem is that they just don’t get it. They make so many foolish moves though, that I’m beginning to wonder if they do get it, and are actually posing as Democrats to hijack true democracy for their mega-corporate masters. Man, I hope I’m wrong. Thank god for Howie Klein indeed, and for the Internet!
I posted this earlier today, but I wanted to mention it one more time in case it might be of interest.
Christy was asking earlier today for ideas about how best to harness our collective talents and efforts in order to help Democratic candidates in the 2006 elections and beyond.
I have a modest idea that may have real potential for extending the reach of firedoglake and growing the FDL readership.
Right now, most readers here have found their way to FDL via other websites or the stray mentions in the mainstream media. I think that there is a gigantic untapped audience for FDL.
I believe that the progressive movement would be extremely well served if we could get the word out about FDL to others in our respective communities. My suggestion is to add another item to the FireDogLake CafePress website:
FireDogLake Business Cards.
We could put a side banner up at the main FDL website mentioning the business cards and the FDL campaign. The cards could then be purchased by FDL readers and distributed to friends, acquaintances, and strangers in towns and cities across the country. They could be left in elevators, waiting rooms and lobbies everywhere that we travel…
The business cards would have the website address, the FDL logo, and a few pithy lines about FireDogLake that would be intriguing enough to draw in potential readers, e.g. “FireDogLake - The Website George Bush Doesn’t Want You To Know About” or one of any of the thousands of better slogans that we could come up with together.
It would be a way to reach out to others who might not find their way over to FDL on their own, increasing our numbers, our strength, and our voice. FDL outreach.
masaccio @
29
masaccio thanks for that comment. It’s that kind of stuff that makes it all worth it and puts everything in perspective, even Pach’s…well, er…liberalism?
These guys say they pay attention to the public, to the polls, and yet, the polls are saying that 63% of the public think torture is wrong. Almost that same percentage think the Iraq invasion was a mistake and is going badly.
All the Dems have to do is stand up and say, very, very clearly: “torture is wrong, denial of habeas corpus is against everything in which we as a nation believe, and the Iraq invasion and occupation is a horrible mistake which we were led to by administration lies. This administration’s cruelty and incompetence is killing the people we claimed to liberate, and it’s killing our own soldiers for no damned good reason.”
I think that could fit into a 30-second ad with room to spare.
Long time lurker, first time poster. I just wrote the following to send to my senators, but figured I’d send it out for criticism first (please be gentle)
This is a letter that I never thought I would have to write. America does not torture. That is a sentiment that I never believed would be questioned. But now it has.
America has a long history of treating prisoners (or in current terms detainees) much better than the enemy. Hessians in the Revolutionary War were amazed that they were treated as well as they were. George Washington made a point to declare that we would treat POW’s better than our own were treated (which was dismally). In WW2 Germans were trying desperately to surrender to our troops, rather than soviet troops, because we treated people humanely.
But now we are willing to codify into law language that says that certain types of torture are allowable, and pretend that this is in accordance with Geneva Conventions because we don’t attempt to re-write those conventions? And this is in furtherance of a program that can’t be disclosed by the CIA because it would undermine national security.
Well, if this program is necessary, then that means that we, America, must torture in order to maintain security. I don’t buy this. I am all for tough tactics in fighting terrorism, but there needs to be a standard of law that separates us from petty dictators and tyrants. The ongoing argument seems to be more like a ’24’ episode, that we need to be able to torture people based on a ‘ticking time bomb’ episode. Well current law already deals with the issue via executive order or presidential pardon. I have heard many military and former intelligence officers, including Colin Powell speak against this legislation and I am willing to believe them.
Our war against terrorists is a serious issue. In no way do I diminish the threat that we face from terrorists. But we can not forego our principles and our ideals in that fight. Allowing the executive branch to interpret what actions, and what does not, adhere to the Geneva Conventions is a cop-out. The lack of Habeas Corpus for detainees also is abhorrent to the ideals of this country.
Yes, we must come up with rules under which we treat accused terrorists. Existing military tribunal laws are a start. But we can not abandon the constitutional framework that is the basis of our society.
Colin Powell is right that we risk losing our moral standing in the world if we enact this law. Please stand against this and confirm America’s commitment to the law as written by our founding fathers.
In closing I write this as a New Yorker that has felt the destruction of 9/11 and wishes that we can bring to justice the people that inflicted such great destruction on us. Within the law.
for crying out loud & continue to fight:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00928.html
WTF? btw, they are taking comments on this article; scroll on down and share your thoughts.
*xyz @ 36
Interesting idea.
technicolor 39 — nice letter.
Nice job, technicolor. To make it even more powerful and likely to be read, write it by hand.
And welcome!
technicolor #39:
“Please be gentle”
Gentle?!? I’m an American and “gentle” isn’t in our vocabulary anymore! Now take a deep breath as I submerge this board you’re strapped to!
Thanks all. I plan to write by hand and then fax to all congress (house and senate).
If you haven’t seen it, Sean Paul made a post card you can print and send to your senators:
http://agonist.org/sean_paul_k.....ar_senator
Angie, reminds me of when everyone was trying to say what an objective, non-partisan reporter Carl Cameron was after the excerpts of him kissing Bush’s ass in a pre-inteview session were made public. What in god’s name is wrong with these people? As atrios would say, more zombie lies that will not die.
Hey Bonkers,
Oooh, ohh you nasty boy.
Oops, or nasty girl. Sorry, don’t know if Bonkers is a girl or a guy :-)
I just received this email (I’m only posting the first paragraph) from Nancy DiNardo, Chairwoman of Connecticut Democrats. Do you see anything missing?
Dear Democrats:
The City of New London and the League of Women Voters hosted the first debate in the race to take back the 2nd Congressional District on Monday night. Joe Courtney did a phenomenal job of highlighting his opponent’s many shortcomings and explaining why he would do a far superior job serving eastern Connecticut. As I sat in the audience, I realized once again what an incredible team of Democratic candidates we have in Connecticut – a team that will challenge the status quo and work with dedication to better our State and local communities. I look forward to attending Diane Farrell’s, Chris Murphy’s, and John DeStefano’s debates and to once again watching as our Democratic nominees offer up sound alternatives to their opponents’ failed policies and broken promises.
Yes - that’s right. Ned Lamont’s name is missing from the roster of Democratic nominees. I’m fuming…
Just curious…
Seems like there has been more attention given to FDL in the corporate media recently (especially Ms. Hamsher’s marvelous performance with KO). Is this a result of adding a Press Secretary?
technicolor @ 39
technicolor:
Good letter. I wish I were so eloquent. A couple of minor stylistic points:
First graf: make “But now it has.” read, “But now it has been.”
Second graf: capitalize “Soviet”
Fourth graf: change second “episode” to “scenario” and insert comma after “Colin Powell”
Last graf: change “New Yorker that” to “New Yorker who” and change “can” to “could”
As you see fit. Not to detract from the fact that you have written a good letter.
bonkers @ 35
I’m going to start calling them the “Principate Party” and see how long it takes before one of them gets it.
technicolor @ 49
A guy, but that doesn’t matter. Now stand still while I hook these electrodes to your fingers and put this black hood over your head!
This is from the letter I sent to the White House last week:
“Any individual detained by our forces needs to be treated in the same manner that we expect our forces to be treated if detained themselves. To do any less places our troops in unnecesary danger, reduces our standing in the world, and weakens the democracy our soldiers are sworn to protect…I strongly urge you to support our military and the legal provisions that protect it.”
I figured it had a better chance if it sounded like a disaffected supporter, rather than a committed oppoonent. Plus I couldn’t resist telling them to support the troops. What’s good for the goose…
“Little Miss Sunshine” was the first movie I’ve made an effort to see in a theater in years and it was worth that effort.
It was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a long time(and it reminded me of several trips my family made when I was a kid).
Jane, there is some further discussion/elaboration on the merits of adding business card outreach in the comments on Matt O.’s thread earlier today. I think it would be a great way to reach out to spread awareness. In person communication is so powerful, and business cards carry great weight with most people - they help to lend a sense of authenticity and authority to what could otherwise be wrongly written off by some as an entirely ephemeral internet phenomenon. Giving out business cards is a way of saying to your friends, family and acquaintances that there is a real flesh and blood movement in their midst.
My other idea is to have a self-identify kos/fdl/progressive blogger day or week, where we all wear, for example, orange bracelets, so we can find out who in our offices, churches, towns, and other communities are part of the progressive blogosphere.
Otherwise, I could be in an apt or office next door to another commenter and never know our common bond. A national blogger day or week would function to knit us together by giving us a chance to find out who, in our day to day lives, is a member of the progressive internet community…
If you want a good movie to watch, may I suggest this:
http://video.google.com/videop.....mp;q=press
*Note the Pakistan connection with today’s news.
EvilDrPuma @ 53
Ooooo…I like that! Very appropiate.
When Jane made me a front pager, I made a confession to the community that I had been initially a supporter of the Iraq invasion, and that I recognize I was wrong.
I’m in that same boat, so I can sympathize. I was intensely skeptical and suspicious in the run-up to the invasion, but when push came to shove, I figured Colin Powell wouldn’t pull a war out of his ass, and that Saddam must have had something to hide or he wouldn’t have been so evasive. We all know how that turned out.
The main thing is that we kept our eyes and minds open and learned from it. People in American politics are deathly afraid of allowing new facts to change their opinions about something. So we have a stubborn third of diehard Bushies that will never admit to us that they backed the wrong horse. That’s on them and they know it.
And it’s funny how the media still continues to enable this administration, in obvious and subtle ways. It’s systemic, and all you can do is get the truth out.
Thanks for your input. Will make changes and then send to Congress on Monday. First question is that I was planning on sending to all congresscritters. Will this make a difference or should I just send to my own representatives.
Well, I just watched IRAQ FOR SALE. That’ll put a crimp in your evening.. I’m with you KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT!
EPU’d, reposting:
I understand there’s a first-person description of waterboarding by Margery Kempe (late medieval English religious writer.) Of course, back then they used linen fabric instead of cellophane. I’m sure that first-person descriptions of the use of other techniques could be found, with which to enlighten senators and congresscritters. They could then filibuster by reading all of them into the record, just so everyone would know what was intended. Nope, no one hiding under that desk …
[still steaming…]
We’re in for a longer process than many of us can imagine. Number one priority is voting dem in Nov to turn both houses around, even if it means electing some DINOs. After that we can attempt getting progressives elected. But first and foremost — change congress! Bush policies must not be allowed to go forward and those that are already in place must be challenged. I won’t even get into the decades involved in righting the wrongs he has perpetrated throughout the world. Let’s begin by changing congress in Nov.
After the Abu Ghraib scandal broke, didn’t the members of congress get their own viewing of many more photos and videos? I seem to remember seeing video of them on tv, coming out of the room where they were shown the full depravity of that prison, and they were pale and shaken.
My question to each of those elected officials is this: how many of those acts would be legally permissible if this new compromise passes?
technicolor @ 61
I would encourage you to send it to all of them. Some may ignore it but it may resonate with others.
Cheney’s stealth fundraiser yesterday in Rochester, NY incited a decent turnout of protesters, about 250 peeps. We rallied in a park and had a short march to the venue where Deadeye was speaking. We were not harassed at all directly across the street (just filmed); there was just a line of cops in that block spaced about 20 feet apart.
My favorite moment was when the rich Republicans donors came out of the Convention Center directly across from us to board a
busmotor coach, and our crowd took up the chant “SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU!” There was a tiny group of College Republicans supporting Dick, and the sign down front in this photo is accidentally comic. To be continued…TheOtherWA: Well, I guess they became hardened or inured to the violence… can’t feel it, smell it, touch it.
“it’s ok. trust us. but, you can’t see the photos because they are classified due to obscenity, etc. and we know how sensitive and how compassionate you are! trust us, we know what’s best for all y’all…”
Just got back from seeing “U.S. vs. John Lennon.”
It’s really heartbreaking to see the activism of the 60s and 70s and then to leave the theater to an America at war and on the verge of shredding the Constitution… with life just moving along as normal.
I think I’ll strap my sons surfboard to my back and rent a dunk tank.
Your Leonardo Ass/Elbow illustration comes to mind again. I can’t find a way to post it in this comment (I saved it, and look at it often. It’s my talisman of sanity in a world gone mad), so maybe you can repost it for those who are new, and dedicate it to all the DC Dems who can’t manage to oppose torture, for f*ck’s sake.
ccmask @ 70
That triggered the thought in my mind that a mannikan being waterboarded would not be a bad idea for a torture float. Make it graphic.
So, I struck up a conversation with someone about politics. I had seen this person once or twice and felt it was time for a temperature check. He sure looked like an extra crispy rightwinger to me.
He said he didn’t feel real comfortable talking about politics or current events because he just didn’t really know enough to defend a position.
At least he knew enough that swimming in a sea of talking points is not bathing in wisdom.
I sort of scolded him. People are dying because of political and current events. We have no choice but to wield this power as thoughtfully as possible, and that means staying informed.
Glenn Greenwald’s blook, How Would A Patriot Act, the title, is a challenge to he who is holding the blook. Your country needs you, what are you gonna do about it?
Pachacutec @
4
I’m here again. I couldn’t sleep.
op99 @ 67
Thanks for the story. If they were Young Repubelicans, that guy with the crew cut and his mouth open should be holding the sign in question. The modern day Republic Party is filled with men living in the closet. How does a male prostitute posing as a journalist get White House clearance with seemingly overnight stays?!? Still can’t believe this wasn’t enough to bring these freak-a-zoids down.
op99, those people really were R’s, not parody protestors?
Bwahahahahaha! “We (heart) Dick”
Way to go, kids. And you just made my night, op99. :)
The points are as follows:
1) The legislation would have passed no matter what. That’s what happens when the other side has 55 Senators.
2) Let’s assume that Bill Frist and John McCain drafted a REAL anti-torture bill and somehow got the other 53 GOP Senators to vote for it. Does anyone really think that Bush would sign it, much less obey it?
3) If you want to get legislators with backbones, work on taking the money out of politics: http://www.publiccampaign.org.
Pachacutec @
4
Oh, honey, I wish.
Instead, I will keep fighting.
Because while there are no guarantees we will win, if we do not fight a loss is guaranteed.
soyinkafan @ 71
You mean this?
The U.S. vs John Lennon:
http://www.theusversusjohnlennon.com/site/
*Guess we need a reminder…
op99 @
67
Those kids are out of uniform…. where are their desert cammo, where are their combat boots?
Why are they here, dont they know that there is a war and our fearless leader needs them!
katymine @ 81
“Chickenhawks: The Next Generation.”
Well, gang, I’m off to bed, to sleep, even.
Thanks Pach! You the bomb.
Nites Pach….
katymine @ 81
Don’t expect “those kids” to be in combat uniforms. They are in training at their elite schools so they can be the next wave of civilian “administrators” to hit the Middle East–this time in post-invasion Iran, to run the country into the ground in an incompetent, crony-filled, Katrina-esque mockery of an occupation. And they will get paid a lot more than the guys and gals in combat uniforms.
g’nite Pach! sleep well!
btw, the postcard campaign at the Agonist origniated here with Dave’s great graphic - in the last thread - wanna make sure Dave gets props for the great effort!
Hope all of FDL will join in!
Bonkers - you asked about recent media coverage and having a press sec (being me) … so far, the coverage has come out of the blue or thanks to a number of people’s efforts. FDL is clearly leading the way with feisty, smart and on target activism and that gets noticed.
One thing that happens a lot with PR is that a lot of what happens is kismet - spreading the word around, getting info out and available, slowly building the visibility - which is what we’re working on. So we should see more as we keep at it.
Pachacutec @ 79
I believe I do, but the link won’t work for me. God, I love that graphic. It gives me fits of giggles every time. And I need those giggles - I’m 40. I bought everything Marlo Thomas and Sesame Street and Arlo Guthrie taught me, just as my parents intended. I’m still so spitting mad at Ronald Reagan for sending this country backwards from those golden years, and then we get this faux-Texan criminal. Thanks for being FDL, y’all.
We do have to just keep on keeping on, with or without a glorious filibuster on this painfully obvious issue. First get a Democratic majority, then push for a Houseful of Conyers and Murthas, George Millers and Debbie Wasserman Schultzes.
Op99 - so how was the event? and did you have any luck with the press coverage stuff?
Oh neurophius, I forgot they are in training to play touch football with bundles of 100 dollar bills It looks like Bush is not going to make the NOLA Monday Night Football game a photo op.
NOLA TShirts –
FEMA the other “F” word
F - find
E - every
m - Mexican
A - available
Katrina gave me the best blow job I every had
Here’s the original blogspot archive with the haloscan discussion.
This was apparently one of my first pinch hitting front pagers. Jane and Christy were desperate and the rest is
tragedyhistory.Continuing coverage of Deadeye Comes to Rochester: I believe Cheney’s visit was unintentionally helpful to the Act Blue Democrat Eric Massa, who is challenging Rubberstamp Republican Randy Kuhl. Massa got a lot of free face time on the local news broadcasts in response. Massa’s big challenge has been building name recognition, because his bio, character and dynamism are so superior to Kuhl (who under-polled Bush in winning the district in 2004), that once people know who Massa is, he is favored over opponent (who is noted for threatening his ex-wife with 2 shotguns). Here’s some TV coverage:
http://www.10nbc.com/index.asp.....y_id=20240
http://www.13wham.com/mediacen.....oId=180010
The sad thing is that there are many people out here that think that Torture is OK. My boss, who I respect in many ways, is alright with torture as long as is it is done by the US, because we are the ‘good guys’.
The very sad thing is that I have worked with this guy for more than 17 years. I must admit that I was pretty apolitical for most of the nineties. Guess I came aw