Comments on: I’m Disgusted http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:41:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Waterboarding in! Frist on THIS WEEK - Political Kicks http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308767 Waterboarding in! Frist on THIS WEEK - Political Kicks Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:57:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308767 <p>[…] We are the nation that tortures now and that’s a truly sad thing. Thank you Democrats and Republicans alike. Jane’s disgusted and so am I. And Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, praised Senators Warner, McCain and Graham as “standing up to the administration” and producing a bill that, “while it has a number of problems, is a substantial improvement over the language proposed by the administration.” […]</p> […] We are the nation that tortures now and that’s a truly sad thing. Thank you Democrats and Republicans alike. Jane’s disgusted and so am I. And Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, praised Senators Warner, McCain and Graham as “standing up to the administration” and producing a bill that, “while it has a number of problems, is a substantial improvement over the language proposed by the administration.” […]

]]> By: roberto http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308737 roberto Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:55:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308737 <p>I wish Bill Clinton had spoken as passionately against torture as he did defending his anti-terror record.</p> I wish Bill Clinton had spoken as passionately against torture as he did defending his anti-terror record.

]]> By: roberto http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308736 roberto Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:54:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308736 <p>Just coming in at message 322 to say that I am beyond appalled at the entirety of congress over how they have dealt with this torture “compromise”. I am not a moral absolutist, but this comes about as close to absolutely wrong as I can think of.</p> <p>When you think the country has sunk to the depths of depravity, we find we continue to descend even further into the abyss.</p> Just coming in at message 322 to say that I am beyond appalled at the entirety of congress over how they have dealt with this torture “compromise”. I am not a moral absolutist, but this comes about as close to absolutely wrong as I can think of.

When you think the country has sunk to the depths of depravity, we find we continue to descend even further into the abyss.

]]> By: 14justice http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308475 14justice Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:08:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308475 <p>A patently gauche justification for “bipartisanship”.</p> A patently gauche justification for “bipartisanship”.

]]> By: friend of the blog http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308055 friend of the blog Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:15:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-308055 <p>America died a while back and nobody noticed. We are viewing the body so to speak now… This is truly horrifying and disgusting to think America does these things.It scares me.</p> America died a while back and nobody noticed. We are viewing the body so to speak now… This is truly horrifying and disgusting to think America does these things.It scares me.

]]> By: shargash http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307957 shargash Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:20:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307957 <p>Just for the record, nothing the Bush administration has done has pissed me off more than this. We’ve turned a corner in this country.</p> <p>We are now openly embracing evil as public policy. We have dispensed with the veneer of good intentions. We cannot be excused as merely incompetent. This is deliberate, pre-meditated, in-your-face evil. The world recognizes it as such. It is just our press and politicians that seem to think it is a reasonable discussion to debate under what circumstances an anal pear violates the Geneva conventions (and then let it up to the Torturer-in-Chief to make the final decision).</p> Just for the record, nothing the Bush administration has done has pissed me off more than this. We’ve turned a corner in this country.

We are now openly embracing evil as public policy. We have dispensed with the veneer of good intentions. We cannot be excused as merely incompetent. This is deliberate, pre-meditated, in-your-face evil. The world recognizes it as such. It is just our press and politicians that seem to think it is a reasonable discussion to debate under what circumstances an anal pear violates the Geneva conventions (and then let it up to the Torturer-in-Chief to make the final decision).

]]> By: Elizabeth http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307922 Elizabeth Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:57:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307922 <p>What I would have wanted to see: the Democrats just walking out on this one. I mean it. Just not be there. Don’t bother voting. Just say to the rubber-stamp Republicans, “Fine, have your vote. But not with us. This is YOUR show.” </p> <p>This is so abhorrent, so opposed to the ideals that the United States is supposed to stand for, that even to stand there and cast a “no” vote gives this piece of excrement more dignity than it deserves. </p> <p>Because honestly, it’s so revolting that all you can do now is revolt. I don’t care if the Dems lost the midterms because of taking a real stand, really I don’t. As it stands now, what sort of a country will be left for them to run, even if they win?</p> What I would have wanted to see: the Democrats just walking out on this one. I mean it. Just not be there. Don’t bother voting. Just say to the rubber-stamp Republicans, “Fine, have your vote. But not with us. This is YOUR show.”

This is so abhorrent, so opposed to the ideals that the United States is supposed to stand for, that even to stand there and cast a “no” vote gives this piece of excrement more dignity than it deserves.

Because honestly, it’s so revolting that all you can do now is revolt. I don’t care if the Dems lost the midterms because of taking a real stand, really I don’t. As it stands now, what sort of a country will be left for them to run, even if they win?

]]> By: molly http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307911 molly Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:53:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307911 <p>Remember the outrage when bush was talking about “privatizing” social security? That’s what we need on this issue. Torture house in Turkey exposed because neighbors heard screaming and smelled blood. Terroists as young as 3 found who had been drugged and sexually molested for some time. waynemadsenreport. He has been on air america with RRhodes and RFKJr. This is what our tax dollars are going for. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.Only republicans can be assured their vote will count. Every law maker who votes for bushco’s torture policies should be tried at the Hague. Wonder if they would cry and whine like “Duke” cunningham over being caught.</p> Remember the outrage when bush was talking about “privatizing” social security? That’s what we need on this issue. Torture house in Turkey exposed because neighbors heard screaming and smelled blood. Terroists as young as 3 found who had been drugged and sexually molested for some time. waynemadsenreport. He has been on air america with RRhodes and RFKJr. This is what our tax dollars are going for. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.Only republicans can be assured their vote will count. Every law maker who votes for bushco’s torture policies should be tried at the Hague. Wonder if they would cry and whine like “Duke” cunningham over being caught.

]]> By: JB (not John Bolton) http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307870 JB (not John Bolton) Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:21:36 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307870 <p>I live in Massachusetts.</p> <p>I called the offices of Senators Kerry and Kennedy and told whoever answered the phone that I had never been so disgusted and angry about anything in my life.</p> <p>The response I got? “Thank you for calling”.</p> <p>I probably could have been more effective but I was and am SO GODDAMNED ANGRY!!!!</p> I live in Massachusetts.

I called the offices of Senators Kerry and Kennedy and told whoever answered the phone that I had never been so disgusted and angry about anything in my life.

The response I got? “Thank you for calling”.

I probably could have been more effective but I was and am SO GODDAMNED ANGRY!!!!

]]> By: Diamond Jim http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307762 Diamond Jim Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:52:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/23/im-disgusted/#comment-307762 <p><a href="#comment-307524"><em>selise @ 311</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-307169"><em>lina @ 287</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I would recommend a press event on the steps of the Capitol featuring the Canadian that was rendered to Syria, tortured, and later released. Let him tell his whole story with the cameras rolling.</p></blockquote> <p>i don’t think we have the right to ask <a href="http://www.maherarar.ca/">maha arar</a> to step foot in this country again.</p> <p>and he has been telling <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/19/1348206">his story</a>… not that many have been listening…</p></blockquote> <p>We certainly don’t have that right.</p> <p>Did you know that the Canadian House of Commons apologized unanimously to Maher Arar on Wednesday? (No? I’m not surprised. Try searching Google News for a non-Canadian reference to this not insignificant event.) True, it’s not the government in the person of the Prime Minister, and the House was over a barrel in light of the official report concluding that Arar had been wronged by Canada, but imagine the United States House of Representatives even <em>considering</em> such an apology.</p> <p>I know you<em> <b>can</b></em> imagine it. It’s what would have happened in the America we all thought we lived in. The one FDL is fighting to restore. If change comes to the United States in time, it’ll be because ordinary decent people banded together through sites like this to make it happen.</p> selise @ 311

lina @ 287

I would recommend a press event on the steps of the Capitol featuring the Canadian that was rendered to Syria, tortured, and later released. Let him tell his whole story with the cameras rolling.

i don’t think we have the right to ask maha arar to step foot in this country again.

and he has been telling his story… not that many have been listening…

We certainly don’t have that right.

Did you know that the Canadian House of Commons apologized unanimously to Maher Arar on Wednesday? (No? I’m not surprised. Try searching Google News for a non-Canadian reference to this not insignificant event.) True, it’s not the government in the person of the Prime Minister, and the House was over a barrel in light of the official report concluding that Arar had been wronged by Canada, but imagine the United States House of Representatives even considering such an apology.

I know you can imagine it. It’s what would have happened in the America we all thought we lived in. The one FDL is fighting to restore. If change comes to the United States in time, it’ll be because ordinary decent people banded together through sites like this to make it happen.

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