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Okay, so it’s Friday night and by now you should have a drink or two in ya (if you drink). I think it’s time to take this conversation south. Way south.
I think all of us know what I’m talking about when I ask you who your Bad Crush is. It’s that person out there who, for whatever reason, lights your fire, but who you know in real life you would probably cross the street to get away from. The person who if by some freak mischance you actually hooked up with, you might not necessarily tell your friends about. Someone completely unlikely. Someone from a world entirely different to your own.
I used to know this biker dude named Frank. He was built like two Henry Rollins-es standing on each other’s shoulders. A wall of tattoos and bits of metal. I think I actually saw him wear parts of his motorcycle as clothing. He was totally enamored with one of the women on the Weather Channel. I can’t remember her name now, but she was this petite dark haired woman, nothing special to your average viewer, I suppose, but she just melted Frank’s butter. He would sit there on the couch and just wait for her to come back on.
Then you’d ask him what the weather was going to do and he would look at you like a dog hearing a high-pitched sound, "The weather?"
"Yeah, Frank, you’re watching the Weather Channel. What’s the weather going to do?"
"Aw, I dunno. Gonna be hot, I guess."
I knew this kind of empty-headed gay boy named Brandon. Really. A mind entirely unencumbered by facts, details, or ideas of any kind. He could discuss the relative merits of Madonna or Mariah Carey’s latest albums and accompanying photo shoots, but beyond that, he was just a lot of hair gel and a pair of Banana Republic khakis.
But he looooooooved Benjamin Netanyahu. Knew absolutely nothing about the Middle East. Couldn’t tell you Gaza from Giza from Qatar, but if the news was on and he saw Benjamin, he made everyone in the room shut up so he could listen. The Newsweek with Netanyahu on the cover disappeared into Brandon’s room and never returned.
And then there was my friend Michelle, a sweet little clarinet-playing lesbian girl from a big noisy Greek family. Michelle always ate with her napkin in her lap, always wore lipstick, never stayed out past midnight, and practiced the clarinet from five to eight hours a day.
Michelle went absolutely berserk over Courtney Love.
I never understood it, either.
And I guess by now you all realize where this conversation is headed. I’m going to tell you about my Bad Crush.
Sigh.
I have fought this for as long as I can, but clearly I am helpless in its thrall. It almost sickens me to tell you all this.

Johnny Freakin’ Knoxville.
The guy who makes a living doing things that eighth graders find juvenile.
Whooo-hoooo.
There. I feel better.
It’s your turn.
UPDATE: From Spin magazine:
One would expect differently after watching a few episodes of Jackass, perhaps the most (intentionally) squirm-inducing TV show of all time. Knoxville and producer Spike Jonez sold the concept to Mtv after Knoxville’s DIY stunt videos were passed along by two key taste-making demographics: pro skate-boarders and suburban delinquents. But immediately after the shows’ 2000 debut, parents and other critics went on the warpath, claiming it was encouraging kids to be reckless. Senator Joseph Lieberman even called for the network to yank the show entirely, "He wrote a letter once," says Knoxville, "We corrected the spelling and sent it back."
Uh.
Mah.
Gawd.
Stick a fork in me, y’all. I’m done. D-U-N, done.
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TRex! Hi!
angie @ 0
Hi!
Everyone’s going to kill me for this post.
hey my bad crush was a decade ago and he sounded like Chimpy. I shudder now whenever I think about it.
TRex, Fitz, Ned, Big Dawg!
…’Johnny Freakin’ Knoxville’.
Was it the Pocket Ass?
;>)
and I’ve always had this yen for Charlie Rose…
Probably 80% of the people who read this post are going to be, like, “Who the hell is Johnny Knoxville?”
This Joan Jett song takes on a whole fun new meaning when you realize it’s about Lesbian Drama.
Susan in Iowa @ 5
Really, truly? Well all righty then.
Pre-Fed Britney Spears.
newspaperbrat @ 9
Speaking of Jim Carrey…
Kill you? hell no, but I’d love to see you in Jackass III. Let us write a scene, please please.
Coincidentally, as fate would have it, my only girl crush ever….
Joan Jett.
Don’t tell anyone.
Ain’t nothin’ wrong with liking the Joan Jett.
This post by Jack Balkin of Balkinization is one of the best. And it contains a link to the full text of the Bush/McCain compromise act, for us legal geeks.
Once again our legislators are trusting our president to do the right thing. (Fat chance.)
brainfaht @ 11
Heh. That’ll be Internet Only.
Gives a whole new meaning to the term “viral video”.
Ew.
I think he was on TV the other night.
I don’t think this is a terrible confession! I was expecting, oh I don’t know…
Scottie?
Kidding (and ducking)…
Eli @
14
Long as Balrog can watch… (After slapping the entire Bush Admin a new smile).
newspaperbrat @
9
He’s just so bright, and connected with life, and interesting, and he laughs. I’m not sure I can explain.
Margot @ 16
From the crew of the “Enterprise”?
No, that would be Mr. Sulu.
Susan in Iowa @ 18
You don’t have to explain. We all have at least one Bad, Weird Inexplicable Crush.
I bet Sharkbabe’s got a hum dinger or two.
TRex @ 20
I liked poor lovelorn Yeoman Rand. And I seem to recall that the girl in the Gamesters Of Triskelion epi was quite fetching. And Ice Age Mariette Hartley in the episode with the Library, whose name escapes me at the moment (All Our Yesterdays, maybe? Something like that?).
Jane Hamsher @
13
Mine…Diana Rigg aka Emma Peel.
Mommybrain @ 22
Cor, who DOESN’T have a crush on Emma Peel?
Mommybrain @ 23
*Both* fine choices. That catsuit… Ow.
TRex @ 20
No no. Scottie McClellan, from the Bush Maladministration (TM, someone at dKos).
OK, ducking now…
Susan in Iowa @ 18
Bright as in quick?
Are you southern by any chance?
Scottie MCCLELLAN??!!
The McClellatron 3000?
ICK!
EW!
NO WAY!!
You might as well have a crush on a tube of pre-made cookie dough.
TRex @ 28
That would be kinda understandable, actually…
Okay mommybrain, Diana Rigg did it for me too. I watched the reruns on channel 5 in L.A.
Susannah Hoff…but Emma Peel is waaaay up there.
Anyway, dating Scottie would totally suck, because every time you’d try to have sex with him he’d just keep repeating that he had *already* had sex with you…
TRex @ 7
Okay. I’ll bite. Who the hell is Johnny Knoxville?
hahahahaha
TRex lol
Sorry
But really, I was expecting bad. And I got…huh? Who he?
newspaperbrat: Bright as in incredibly smart and well-read, interested in lots of subjects, always wanting to learn. I have been watching his show for years, although not every night. Did I mention my Weird Bad Crush on John Stewart, who appears at the same time on DISh network?
(How is a crush on Jon Stewart bad?)
Eli @ 32
707
Eli @ 31
He would just keep doing the same ineffective thing over and over and over until you were ready to bludgeon him.
Oh, and I’m from Tucson originally. It’s not South. It’s west.
TRex @ 38
But that implacable monotone is soooo sexy!
Johnny Knoxville in Wikipedia
I had a picture of Peter Jennings in my locker in high school.
I was a weird kid.
Jodie Foster. Me, Travis Bickle, and John Hinckley. And yes, I know….
UptownNYChick @
42
I totally get it.
Does anyone remember Xuxa? She was very attractive, but a complete loon, IIRC.
Hmm…”Bad crush”.
Was it my ex, who tried to destroy my life or the exotic dancer that I left my ex for, only to return to my ex so as to complete the destruction…?
Choices, choices
;>)
darkblack @ 46
Oh, my!
How scandalous.
darkblack @ 46
ooh if we are going into bad relationship choices let me put my money down…..
UptownNYChick @ 48
I fold.
darkblack, I see Darth Cheney crushing Sour Grapes with his claws
I gotta work tomorrow, so good night all. Gonna go dream about Peter Jennings now
I had a biker, too, TRex. Johnny Cross was his name. His friend Buzzard used to eat bugs from the porch light at parties.
Johnny had baby-fine brown hair to his waist, tatoos, bad teeth and a Bulldog .44, which he taught me to shoot. Nearly broke my arm. He turned out to be a wuss and a weenie, not to mention married, but for a while I was one of the wild bunch.
My friend Elissa had a crush on Alan Rickman, particularly as Professor Snape.
I had to think about that one.
I know there is a Snape-is-cool train of thought, but I’m afraid I can’t get with it. I think he’s bad. I think he’s got something personal against Harry because of James Potter and he hated Dumbledore for loving Harry like a son.
Phew. I said it.
If this turns into a Harry Potter thread, Jane will kill us.
Hmm… Bad girlfriends, that’s one thing. I can’t think of any bad crushes like this, though.
But Johnny Knoxville’s not such a bad choice. Despite being a professional idiot, he’s actually pretty good looking and smart.
laughing too hard to figure out my bad crush(es)
My best friend’s wife dated Mike Eruzione (the captain of the 1980 Miracle On Ice US hockey team) and, I *think* Matt Suhey, the fullback on the ‘85 Superbowl Bears.
I’m so sorry to have introduced the “ick” factor here.
This was my secret crush:
David McCallum
TRex @
49
Not with a pair of Johnny Knoxvilles, you don’t
;>)
Susan in Iowa @
50
How about Lord Chequeeg crushing strawberries in the witness box, Susan?
;>)
Mommybrain @ 52
Ah, yes, MB. Those outlaw types. I have a song about one such character on the Eli album we did in 2000.
I have found they are better loved from afar. It’s one thing to feel like you would bail your man out of jail at 3:00 o’clock in the morning and another thing entirely to have to actually do it.
TRex @ 53
I can understand that. I saw him in Private Lives in NYC several years ago and he was definitely a hottie. Actually, he was pretty sexy as the evil terrorist in Die Hard. Nothing like bad boys to make your heart go a twitter.
I don’t think Emma Peal counts as a “bad” crush…
OK, going way out on a limb here. Tricia Nixon.
Does it matter that I was about 14, and she was 8 years older than me, and I hadn’t yet figured out what a Republican was?
Mike Eruzione is way cool, that ESPN special about the 1981 Olympics always stops me dead in my tracks.
Siun @ 55
As sexy as I think Johnny Knoxville is, I still can’t be arsed to sit through a whole episode of “Jackass”.
Ay, Captain, Alan Rickman floats my boat in a big way, but not so much as Snape. The original Die Hard; Truly, Madly, Deeply; Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, his most deliciously over-the-top role.
TRex @ 53
But Alan Rickman is so damn cool. Even as Snape. There’s nothing even remotely embarrassing about that, even factoring in the dorky Harry Potter thing. That’s how I answered my wife, too, and I’m sticking to it.
Margot @
57
No, that’s AWESOME!! THAT’S the kind of thread I wanted to get going here.
Remember, it’s the crush you might not necessarily tell your friends about.
James Woods.
Totally James Woods.
Crushes…. When Teddy shows up he will give me a bad time….. Mine is Joseph Wilson….
Thanks Teddy for not letting me make an ass of myself at Yearlykos..
katymine @ 67
Heh.
*studiously keeps mouth shut….*
Ahem. Another vote for Courtney Love.
And she is aware enough to have figured it out herself. Here’s a quote of hers from an article in Spin magazine: “I’m the kind of girl you wanna fuck, but then you don’t want to tell your friends.” I think that, as we say, says it all.
TRex @ 63
The Kenny Rogers version is very good.
estiv @ 69
Here comes the quote of the century
estiv @ 69
I hate when she makes sense. Happens every now and then and it always unnerves me. Like a talking dog or something.
Margot @ 57
No ick factor at all IMO. I think he’s cute and I love his accent.
darkblack @
58
Can’t. stop. giggling.
Wish I could say Bill (cat murderer) Frist or Tom (hot tub) Delay to liven up the conversation because they certainly would qualify as embarrassing and shameful, but just can’t work up any enthusiasm there
Kewalo @ 73
OMG I forgot that he was my first crush…. I think I watched every episode of the man from UNCLE
How about Fran Drescher?
dab from CT @ 75
GHGSDKLWBJ:ADG:LN!!!!
never
mention
those
names
in a sexual context
E.V.E.R.!!!
katymine and Margot … I worshipped David McCallum … omg!
bad crushes … hmmmm…. good crushes are robie robertson and mos def … bad … not sure
TRex @ 68
Now T… there is nothing wrong with window shopping… is there?
dab from CT @
75
Shameful is one thing, but sheer depravity unleavened by any shred of attractive..not so much.
I’m going to bed.
Eli @ 77
My brother thinks she’s hot. That’s his Bad Crush! He tries to deny it, but then when he talks about how obnoxious she is, it just has a hollow, insincere ring and his eyes get that misty look.
She has him in her powaaaaahh…
TRex @ 82
I also think she’s hot, and I actually kinda *dig* the voice. Loved her in Spinal Tap and Dr. Detroit (very underrated movie, BTW).
Ooooooh, this one I don’t entirely comprehend, but my heart goes all melty every time I see DJ Danger Mouse from Gnarls Barkley.
And he used to live in Athens!
I knew Lauren Tewes(pronounced Tweeze) when she was a waitress at the Original House of Pies restaurant. We knew her as cyndi, it was a stop my friends and I made everyday after school and I developed a schoolboy crush on her. She used to love to tell us how we were never going to amount to anything hanging out at a restaurant, and later she had a lot of success as the social director on the “Love Boat” television series,of course at some point she turned to cocaine and ruined her career and I inherited a shitload of money. maybe someday I’ll go up to Seattle where she’s working as a gourmet chef and say hello.
Sascha Baron Cohen (Ali G.)
Santino.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Erica Hill, Alison Stewart, Chris Jansing.
I watch way too much cable news.
katymine @
67
that could be dangerous. Mrs. Wilson is said to be an expert markswoman…..
estiv @
69
“let’s do it and say we didn’t.” eh ?……..
fahrender @ 89
More like, “Let’s do it and pretend we were in a blackout and don’t remember it.”
dab from CT @
60
I still have a crush on Alan Rickman from Truly, Madly, Deeply. What a voice! And truly, madly, deeply unavailable.
TRex @
72
Courtney could never be accused of ” a foolish consistency…..”
TRex @ 78
707 – I thought that would get a reaction.
At least I didn’t add Cheney to the list of the most disgusting, shameful crushes possible. And yet, after his debate with Lieberman there were females out there swooning over his manliness. Gak.
The amazing thing to me is that anyone would think any of those slimeballs were attractive and appealing. Power? Money? Terrific personalities?
Oh, yes, David McCallum. On his current show, NCIS, a young female character asks, “What did Ducky (McCallum) look like when he was young?”
Mark Harmon’s character immediately replies, “Ilya Kuryakin.” My kids didn’t get it.
The amazing thing to me is that anyone would think any of those slimeballs were attractive and appealing. Power? Money? Terrific personalities?
Clearly A and B, but certainly not C.
TRex @ 90
i never drink and drive……… ;-)
Mario Cuomo.
David McCallum could never be a BAD crush, if nothing else because of Illya Kuryakin, and his extraordinary reading of Wind in the Willows that he did years ago.
I got a really nice email from my boyfriend after he read the article in GC “Kiss of Death”
Amid the crush of people around him, I say to Ned, “In your wildest dreams, did you ever picture yourself up there with Jesse, in a black church, rocking the house like that?” He throws his head back with a smile, and I’m sure he’s about to say, “No way,” but instead he says, “Yes. Yes. In my wildest dreams, I did.” And then: “You feel the hope of everybody on every pew, and you know you owe them your heart and soul. It’s not like that in Greenwich.”
Mark Lester in Oliver! He’s my exact age. Of course, then he showed up on The Brady Bunch or The Partridge Family and the balloon popped.
Aw, for me it was Bret “The Hitman” Hart. Something about those WWF guys…
Pierce Brosnan, in the Remington Steele days… hot, yet impossible….
I’m deleting that last comment of mine.
katymine – that’s a heartwrenching response and a powerful image. You really should post it on the Lamont blog – they need feedback like this.
http://nedlamont.com/blog
David Cassidy, of the Partridge Family.
There, I said it, are you happy now?
TRex @ 103
now, now, T, Bull is the kind of guy you could take home and introduce to your mom ………
TRex @ 102
No fair
I want to know more about Bull from Night Court.
Bull was pretty dang cute.
Oooo, Pierce Brosnan. I got a story…
During the Remington Steele days, I lived in Hollywood. One day I was at ABC Premiums, a discount electronics store, in the middle of the day. The sole customer. The bored clerk and I were desultorily comparing clock radios when this green Triumph pulls to a screeching halt outside.
We both look out as a tall, unshaven bloke vaults from the driver’s seat and strides manfully into the store. My jaw is at my knees as he makes a beeline for us. Gently taking my hand and kissing it, he said, “Pardon me, dear. I’m in an awful hurry. Do you mind if I steal him for a moment? You’re a luv.”
Turns out he was on his way to a Bond call-back and needed a razor he could plug into the car lighter. (Swoons just thinking about it)
Oh, well, cat’s out of the bag on Bull, I guess.
I dunno. I just wanted to feed him and look after him. He was so earnest and sweet.
And that jawline. Boy howdy.
mommybrain – very cool
dab from CT @ 104
Will do…. heading over there now….
After an hour of hearing how bad things are in NOLA…. hard to be cheery and do not want to be a wet blanket….
AND …. TRex and Bull sitting in a tree…. kissing…ok that is just to much ….
Tyus Edney. Point guard for the 1995 championship UCLA Bruins.
With seconds left, he went from half court to shoot the winning basket in 2.9 seconds to beat Missouri. YAY!
He was the shortest guy on the the team
(5′10″) and the nicest.
brainfaht @ 108
sounds like a spinoff to me: “Bull from Night Court” shot of a deserted, foggy London street. footsteps are heard. then, around the corner a shadow appears. (Music: think the theme to Alfred Hitchcock Presents..) then Bull sticks his head around the edge of the building, his shiny dome glistening with beads of mist …
One of the most swoonerific moments of my entire life was when the Olympics were in Athens and Atlanta and I waited on the entire men’s volleyball team.
The short one was 6′4″.
They had played their final match that day and were no longer subject to drug testing and they were all so stooooooooned. Huge, genial, bumbling, utterly affable giants with hands like tennis rackets.
Great tippers, too.
Mommybrain:
yes, exactly that- swoons…. ooh!
Fahrender,
Change the scene to Athens Georgia, late summer when the 6′8″ Richard Moll encounters a 60′ Therapod in the town square. The beads of sweat quickly change to steam as the encounter goes to places where no one imagined it could.
I was nine, OK, Patty Hearst and shortly after Jodie Foster. I sorta liked Christy McNichols because she reminded me of my real girlfriend.
Thus the end of crush on celebrities and the beginning of the end of falling for tom boys.
Not going to ante up on the poker of bad love table but I do remember one night when I found myself in escape mode, nude on Nob Hill SF running from a drunk exotic dancers flat with only my motorcycle key in hand. That night was one sneaky cold ride in the fog. I got my boots back the next day. Come to think of it she looked like whats her name (main character) on Grays Anatomy only a bit more fiesty.
Um…Tori Amos.
I saw her live one time, from a really excellent upfront seat, and the experience was intense. Sheesh, I was sweating halfway through. That woman can emote.
And then came the epiphany: I would never, ever, want to be initamately involved with someone who could put me through that kind of experience. (Or who wrote so many songs about her uneasy, painful relationships.)
Hence, Bad. As in, dangerous but compelling.
TRex…. my guy was part of the TV crew for the womens Volley Ball venue for the 96 Olympics…
He is a pretty big guy at 6′4″ and tells of a story of riding up in the elevator of the Omni Hotel with the “Dream Team” …. and feeling like a little short guy…. and two of them tromped all over his size 13 shoes…
T:
Bull: Richard Moll. He was also in episodes of “Happy Days” and “The Boy Next Door” (2004). Hmmmmm….
We both look out as a tall, unshaven bloke vaults from the driver’s seat and strides manfully into the store. My jaw is at my knees as he makes a beeline for us. Gently taking my hand and kissing it, he said, “Pardon me, dear. I’m in an awful hurry. Do you mind if I steal him for a moment? You’re a luv.”
Ick.
Gotta tell ya. Once you’ve dated a Brit, that shit wears off. All that suave, utterly charming, pip pip, oooh, just going to pop round to the loo bullshit is cold comfort the fifth or sixth time he leaves you at a restaurant table by yourself.
Trust me on this one.
Exotic must be what put me in moderation.. sorry about that.
ah oh…katymine in moderation prison… what did I do this time?
Even when Alan Richter is goodied up, sincere & noble, in Jane Austen.
Of course we love the bad boys–but the shameful crushes are those all toooo good guys: Captain Picard. ah.
Jack Kemp
Dan Quayle
hi katymine!
Hi Teddy…. being good for once…
ALright, I was going to say good night and something about dreaming about being a Bond girl, but now I can’t get that look on Bull’s face when he he at last finds the sweet mystery of life out. of.my.mind.
goodnight.
nite nite Mommybrain…
klangfarben @ 119
Well, if you’re going there…… I’ve got a Jones for Norah, and I would, masochist that I find myself occaisionally being………
Please don”t kill me TRex. Anita Bryant. She sure had some nice tits. To this day I can’t stand orange juice.
TeddySanFran @ 124
*spit take*
DAN QUAYLE??!1
Mr. Potatoe Head?
Okay. Okay. Here’s one.
Shhhhhhh.
Ollie North.
If I was a straight man, I know I would have it bad for Tori Amos. And I think she writes her relationships up to be a lot more complicated than they actually are.
Jeff Sessions.
But it would be knockdown dragout rough lovin hehe. His pretty face would be all messed up.
And he’d like it and ask for more! :)
fahrender@129
Oh, golly, yes. Norah Jones. Another dangerous one. But would that require masochism, necessarily? Or just shutting off the survival instinct for bit?
Actually, I’m a drooling fool for any female singer who can write a song that twangs my heartstrings.
Thank goodness I’m vaguely aware of my weakness, and can pull back (sometimes) at the edge of the precipice.
Ok… need help…. I am about ready to post the email (@98) to the Lamont blog and the if you go up and read it…. the last word is “screwed” and want someone’s opinion before I post it…. should I leave it as is or edit it?
I brought this up at home last week:
who the hell is Jo**y Knox ville?
some righty women get me hot:
Mary Matalin yeah
Michelle Bachman -the gay hater from MN-6. she’s cute
Katherine Harris. Katherine Harris is HOTTTT!!
Kurt @ 133
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
Ooooooooh, I think I felt something give way in my brain. *grooooo*
Oh no ick factor with David McCallum.
I meant Scottie, of course!
Mommybrain, Remington Steele kissed your hand! See, now people would be on their phones getting photos of it as it happened. Takes all the shivers out of it.
hey TRex how bout that bullet-headed Armitage?
I have the same suspicion about Tori’s songs, TRex. All rocks and no water.
But she can be pretty scary in interviews. Intense. Angry, then sentimental. Something about her is just a little bit more lit up than your average person.
Just sayin’.
Katherine Harris. Katherine Harris is HOTTTT!!
Sure, if you’ve never seen a woman before.
I once dreamed Teddy Kennedy rescued me from a rooftop.
klangfarben @ 140
Yeah. Cuh-razy red-haired women. To quote Little Richard, “WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, LOOK OUT!!”
katymine 136 — i don’t think rgjoe is trolling the lamont blog for bad language, unless you meant you wanted to use a worse word than screwed….
it’s a great testimonial just as is.
MelodyMaker @ 136
Heckamighty. I am speechless. Mary Matalin?
Thanks Teddy…. I thought it was really nice… big Bear of a man with a big heart….. Ok here goes…… post…
What Teddy said, katymine! Post it, post it, rah rah rah!!
Tucker Carlson.
I’m glad he was eliminated from Dancing with the Stars the first week, because I don’t know how long I could have held out on my boycott of ABC because of Path to 9-11 if TC kept Dancin…
okay, you can kill me now.
Armitage, TRex?
TRex @
133
Well, in the “if i were” category, if i were a gay guy i would easily go for Jeff Buckley (see the video of Jeff on Pach’s post last weekend. i’d never even heard of the guy), or maybe Leonard Cohen (because of his mind, you know ;-)
i’ll fightcha for tucker, paul
also, andy cooper. those blue eyes, that cute smile, and RICH!
Paul Lukasiak, as I live and breathe.
*bows deeply*
An honor to have you on one of my threads, sir! And if anyone could have made an honest man of our Tucker, it would be you.
TeddySanFran @
150
Not on your freakin life.
Dan Senor, on the other hand…
paul lukasiak @ 149
he was made a little more appealing in that context, simply because he couldn’t even begin to pretend he was anything other than his adolescent, clumsy self…..
Ok…. the ick factor is creeping in here…. North…. Armitage… wow…. or… maybe I should leave you “guys” alone to chat…..
If you guys keep this up I am going to get that glass of wine that is calling my name…
klangfarben @
146
Yep. Hell ya. No problem with Harris, tho, I notice.
Dibs on Mrs. Senor.
TRex @ 155
ooooooooooo, the dark side of TRex! How about Jeff Gannon?
Was that really Paul Lukasiak or was someone being funny?
katymine @ 157
no, KM, wait! it’s getting to be really interesting…..
OK, this’ll date me. Davee Jones, anyone? (I’m embarassed to write that even now.)
fahrender @ 160
ICK!! ACK!!! PTUI!!!
NOOOOOOOOOO Jimmyjeff for the TREX!!
Dude. He’s turned into a fat little dumpling of a man, hasn’t he? But no, not even when he was all worked out. There’s just something sickening about a sellout.
fahrender @ 151
R.I.P. Jeff Buckley. :(
Oh and my guilty crush USED to be Rahm Emanuel.
/runs quickly from room.
I can’t imagine TREX paying for an evening with Jeff Gannon. Therapods would have gone extinct billions of years earlier if they engaged right wing pussy.
Ah, all you Alan Rickman fans may declare me unbelievably lucky (or just unbelievable), but my college love was a ringer for a young Alan Rickman, and our relationship was similar to that portrayed in ‘Truly, Madly, Deeply.’ He died young, so that one was a bit close to the bone for a few years.
Okay, bad crushes (J Knoxville is not bad, he’s the sane one of that crowd from what I’ve seen. and he can be cute when he’s not trying to look goofy and I always had a kind of ’stray cat’ affection for Bull from Night Court)
Bill Hemmer
Joe Rogan (from ‘News Radio’ and ‘Fear Factor’)
and speaking of ‘Night Court,’ I always had a thing for Harry (last name not coming to me right now) who played the judge.
fahrender @ 163
So what you are telling me is that I am going to NEED the whole bottle of wine?
T: how does Senor being married fit in. More appealing? less? No difference?
OK I’ll redeem myself with Eddie Izzard and if I were gay I’m thinking Fiona Apple.
mutzali @
163
Oh yes. Sigh. I liked Mike Nesmith too.
I also find Senator Spector’s pre-chemo head of hair somewhat erotically luxuriant. Kinda Vonnegutty.
Joe Rogan (from ‘News Radio’ and ‘Fear Factor’)
I forgot about him.
I also think Rufus Wainright is the most adorable human being on the planet at the moment.
katymine @ 168
whatever works for you, ma’am…. ;-)
Joe Rogan is a funny guy and he is a national Tae Kwan Do champion but he’s like about 5′ tall in person.
okey dokey. ‘night.
fahrender @ 169
No married men. Big turn off. Every time you make yourself happy with a married man, you’re making someone else really sad. You are buying your happiness at the cost of someone else’s pain. Not cool.
used to be Mr. Jessica Simpson
Nick LaShaye (sp?)
fahrender @ 169
Mrs. Senor is Campbell Brown. MSM talking head
Jenny from the Blog @ 177
Nighters, Jen!
This is a fun thread.
brainfaht @ 176
even better
TRex–I’m pretty sure that was really Paul.
I’ve wanted to ask him a question for the longest time…since you’ve already screwed Jim Brady once…would you do it again?
BQ @ 167,
——–
Harry Anderson was the judge in Night Court, and I thought he was pretty cute, too. He owns a bar in New Orleans now. I saw him interviewed after the hurricane, long after.
mutzali @ 163
Ok, I’ll make you feel better. I had all the Monkees records. My first big star crush was on Donny Osmond (fer the love of…) I no longer have a crush on Mr. Osmond, however. you should not be embarrassed unless you still have a crush on Mr. Jones.
Margot @ 171
Nesmith is a cool guy. Did you know that his mom invented “Whiteout”? She was a bank teller in Dallas I believe, a single mom just scraping by.
TeddySanFran @ 179
Oh yeah, him.
You know, Teddy, you would have loved my college boyfriend Wade. He was like a blond Nick Lachey. Hooboy. I used to call him “Jethro”.
well, i guess the last week of September is the democrats’ turn to get punk’d on torture.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00507.html
or not.
TRex @ 187
well, then there’s Jethro, but now i am dating myself.
and adam west
and little joe cartwright
oh dear i hope all those intelligent seekers-of-truth who bookmarked fdl after jane was on countdown don’t show up for this thread.
TRex @ 178
Yes, kharma and all, although sometimes it isn’t as simple as that ……
(still speechless)
Harris? Never got past Mary Matalin. Yike.
(gagging sounds)
…
Rufus Wainwright *is* pretty adorable. As a human being, especially. But as an artist, too.
Margot @ 184
Thank you! I hate when my brain doesn’t come up with those things. I saw that interview too, I hope his efforts are working.
okay three in a row prolly time to hit the hay….
fahrender, no I didn’t!
How’d you find out about that?
TeddySanFran @ 190
Oh, whatEVER! It’s Friday! Have a glass of wine.
And pills!
TeddySanFran @ 190
hey, we’re just showing our capacity for divergent thinking……..
>> I also think Rufus Wainright is the most adorable human being on the planet at the moment.
As a straight man, I gotta say heck ya just from his astounding voice. But this is off topic. Oh. Maybe it’s not. shit. I didn’t say that!
I agree, Its tired and I’m late. g’night all
oh, yay, ruth marcus is writing about her mom’s “jewdar” — yeah like gaydar but for jews — in the context of Etty Allen, George Felix’s mom.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01440.html
BQ @ 194
Harry Anderson in the French Quarter
Lordy, another bag of Reese’s miniatures just went to Heaven.
Margot @ 195
you know, i don’t remember just now. if memory serves (which it sometimes doesn’t) it was an article in “Rolling Stone” about Nesmith about ten or fifteen years ago. i think it was one of those “whatever happened to?” articles. it could’ve been an article on “The Monkees”. you could probably google it or some such…..
All the Cartwright boys. But didja notice how any girl who got serious about Little Joe DIED by the end of the episode? To this day when a guest star gets involved with an established single character, we know he/she will succumb to “Little Joe Cartwright disease”. Kinda like wearing a red shirt on Star Trek.
Margot— check out Bette Nesmith
Godspeed, little doodle. or little peanut buttery eminems.
Margot,
I can’t say where I first read about Nesmith’s mom’s invention, but after he inherited, he swore off all things Monkees. (dunno if that’s what ended the group or if it’s just a factor re: no reunions.)
I know there is a video at devilducky.com where he discusses some musical and career issues with Frank Zappa.
Who didn’t have a little smush on Marc Bolan’s watery voice? umm.
MelodyMaker @ 206
It was the little Reese’s cups. They are lethal. They’re so little. And somehow saltier than the regular ones.
MelodyMaker @ 208
Oh, no, the Voice to swoon to is Chris Isaac.
Or Dean Martin.
Or Athens, Georgia’s Dave Marr of the Star Room Boys.
TRex @ 209
TRex, do you remember Willie Wonka Peanut Butter Oompas? Like a bigger than normal M&M, with really good peanut butter in half. Mmmmmm.
It’s a good thing they stopped making them, or I’d be massive.
TRex @ 209
I’m enjoying some funky-funky blue cheese. (Leave your brothers and sisters in the sea) Prince Rogers Nelson is also hott.
Gavin Newsom. there, i said it.
Are we still discussing Bad Crushes?
Okay, here’s one for strange. My big crush is not even a real person. For me it is Kim Possible. I realize that she nothing but some excited phosphors(lucky phosphors!)on my TV screen, but I just can’t help it. I guess I’m in love with the idea of her. Most likely just an echo of the regrets I have on my wasted life.
mutzali @ 211
Have you tried the Peanut Butter M&M’s?
Have mercy.
drouse @ 215
Yeah, well, I’ve got a crush on Jesus’ General. How’s that for impossible?
TRex @ 216
Is that a real thing? I want one!
anjinsan @ 214
Yes we are, anjinsan. You may fire when ready.
A wonderfully, beautiful, Cuban-American singer. Star quality! Melted before words were mangled to a hello. Moved back to Cuba, w/kids & husband. I was the video guy for awhile. Very messed up. Sigh!
Peanut Butter M&M’s.
Half chocolate, half peanut butter. All good.
MelodyMaker @ 218
Yes, they’re real. But like the potato chips, no one can eat just one. You’ll finish the bag. They’re better that Reese’s pieces, of course, because they have chooooooocolate, too.
Wow, I don’t know about this. What if it’s really kinky and there are no more comments for a good ten minutes as everyone recoils at the sheer audaciousness of it?
Yeah, but what about Marc Bolan and Prince?
And, sorry, there’s a Cuban restaurant in Mpls that serves yucca chips. mmm.
Sorry to change the thread, but the blogosphere is on fire over Bill Clinton’s appearence on Fox News Sunday which was recorded today.
If Fox doesn’t edit what was said, this should be a real treat and for someone who never watches Fox I’m going to enjoy every second.
Bill takes Fox to task and I bet Rupert Murdoch kicks Roger Ailes ass all over the place for letting this happen.
Bill I bought a blue suit thinking about you.
TRex @ 217
Entirely understandable, after all he is an eleven on the scale of manliness.
anjinsan @ 223
We’ve had Charlie Rose and Ollie North, anjinsan. How much worse could it be?
I promise to hang out and keep talking after you say it. Really.
Anjinsan, I’m guessing your bad crush is Jon-Michael Vincent, based solely on your name. (Wasn’t that his nickname in the one where he was a chopper pilot? Airwolf?)
drouse @ 227
*shivers*
I know.
And those are the guys I always end up with. Human rottweilers. Thick-skulled, stubborn, highly strung man’s men.
Sigh.
TRex @ 228
The two of them together?!
anjinsan @ 223
Nothing wrong with kinky or audacious!
Hmm, I think one of my first would have been not just Joan Jett but the entire Runaways. *swoon* My ill-spent youth…
anjinsan @
231
Good heavens, no!!
What do you think we are, a bunch of perverts?
c’mon, Gene Simmons?
I’m in on the Marc Bolan crush … still listen to Trex (when I’m not reading *our* Trex)
Well, yes! Any post that begins with “you should have a drink or two in ya” is sure to include raucous amounts of debauchery and on the pervert front I’m not disappointed. This will all, of course, be noted in tomorrows report to my Rapture Ready friends.
Siun @ 235
Thanx
As for real life people, Rachel Ray does it for me. Cute as a button, a great cook and, unfortunately, unavailable. The only downside I can see is what if she never stops talking. I was heartbroken the first time she used the phrase “my husband”.
I always thought TRex the band sounded like the Archies on massive amounts of coke.
anjinsan @ 236
No! this is confidential! It’s Ted Nugent isn’t it?
Agh. Hope it’s not bad karma to think of him again.
He wasn’t anybody in entertainment or media; he was real life, a twisted, convoluted mix of silly boy bound up in bad attitude, the kind that comes in a exceedingly solid size 46 jacket and a 33 inch waist with fists like small hams. His hair had a life of its own, wirey yet soft like quadruple-ought steel wool, yellow like baby chick fluff, and a mustache of the same stuff that would do incredibly wicked things on gooseflesh. I can’t imagine what they tried to do to him in the Marines that would break him into obedience, because he certainly wasn’t years later, by any stretch of the imagination.
Except in bed.
I thought I exorcised him, until TRex let the genie out of the bottle by asking about bad crushes.
God, that was a baaaaad one.
BAD. What I imagine methamphetamine to be, if it could walk and speak in a husky snarl.
drouse @ 238
Ooh, gotta second that one. Similarly heartbroken. An ex-of mine did it to me, and I’ll never get over it. Who’d have thunk I’d wind up trolling the Food Network. The shame of it all!
Hmm, the Archies? Veronica…Veronica…
I used to see Maria Bartiromo on TV at the gym early in the morning and it would keep me going all day. Money and sexy, what could be better.
Rayne @ 241
Ooooh, Rayne. Put down the beaujolais, darling and walk away. [/AbFab]
He sounds perfectly dreadful. Trouble in tight pants. Boys like that are fine for a fling, but you have to be careful not to get flung off in the process.
You’ll put your eye out.
Your husband sounds wonderful anyhow.
Trex! watch what you say about Trex … Bolan blasting on my car radio got me through many rough days!
Since we’re on Food Network, has anyone mentioned Giada di Laurentiis yet? Just to type out her name causes me to pant uncontrollably.
Rayne – not to break the mood but how is your husband? I hadn’t seen an update and was hoping you got good news.
gosh Rayne you have a way with the words….
Giaaahda.
Nigella.
Watching Nigella lick her fingers clean of chocloate …
Flung. Definitely.
Body slammed.
Thank God I am all over the need for that kind of drama in my life. He left a massive wake behind him, the kind of debris field one might find behind a nuclear warhead, women lying prone all over the place.
And yes, go figure, with a lovely hubby like the one I have how I’d ever have had a crush on the likes of that wild animal.
On the other hand, you can’t write well about what you don’t know. Been there, done that, lived to write about. Phew.
anjinsan @ 246
Stepford-like robotic panting with soft focus and zero creative cooking? I’d rather examine Molto Mario’s apron. No, I ddin’t just type that. NONONONO!
TeddySanFran @
190
Fork. Done.
;>)
Rayne @ 250
Bought the t-shirt and the soundtrack album, yep. I’m right there with ya. Hell, I wrote some of the songs.
Another TeeVee tidbit…. this was in TV Technology magazine(I think)….the Food Channel uses many of the same filming techniques that are used in Porn films…… the sounds…. licking… and appealing to your senses…. Now… when I watch… I start cracking up ….. because I can now see it…. how a whole network with 24/7 food prep is such a success.
masaccio @ 249
I know what you mean. However, I have these recurring fantasies involving Rachel, a bottle of wine and a bottle of EVOO.
Keeps coming back ’round to chocolate, doesn’t it?
Dang, Rayne, you’re a powerful prose-slinger.
Am I the only one waiting for anjinsan’s shoe to drop?
MelodyMaker @ 251
She cooks? Wait, I mean. Yes.. French food. Wonderful. I’ve tried a recipe or two.
masaccio @ 249
Forgot about her – how could I?
There was an episode briefly involving latex gloves. I don’t remember much else, it had something to do with cooking, and perhaps peppers. I think. Better not divulge too much more…
*faint*
Yeah, anjinsan, cough it up! I gotta go to bed soon.
drouse @ 255
What’s EVOO? Sounds like overpriced water. Is it sparkling?
katymine @ 254
God, I never really thought of it that way. Makes sense though. Food porn, better than the alternatives.
EVOO == Extra Virgin Olive Oil and the best is made in Crete Greece!
katymine @ 254
choppin’ broccoli, choppin’ broccoli.
I’ve always wanted to have a cooking show where you really never actually cook anything, just me and a friend shooting the shit, drinking coffee, and, like, making a whole pound of bacon and eating it. Or putting a casserole in the oven and forgetting to turn it on. And in the meantime two people talking, running down everything from chaos theory to kevin and britney to the midterm elections and back to chocolate.
Oh, wait. That was no cooking show. That’s my life.
anjinsan @ 259
Extra virgin olive oil. It’s one of her catchphrases.
Giada cooks? I gotta watch more carefully.
Alas, my idea of food porn usually involves large quantities of chili peppers. No wonder I don’t respond to the Food Channel.
TRex @ 258
It involves that, yes.
anjinsan @ 266
*checks watch*
*drums fingers*
anjinsan @ 267
Ok….. am I going to have that wine first….. or something stronger?
Siun — thanks for asking about my spouse. He’s doing very well, all tests came back just peachy. Although it was very scary and frustrating after all that poking and prodding and morphine and nitro to find nothing cardiac wrong, it was a huge relief. Probably just a skeletal problem, a pinched nerve that gradually unpinched after some rest and morphine (acts as a smooth muscle relaxant, used for cardiac-suspected chest pain).
I’m glad the cardiac doc and his general doc both told him they were glad he went in to the ER; hubby has a stubborn streak and will often ignore pain. This time I guess it was pretty bad, couldn’t blow it off.
We’ll chalk it up to another cosmic reminder to knuckle down. In spite of his height and weight (6′-3″, 185 lbs.), he’s got adult onset diabetes, a history of high cholesterol, occasional heart palpitations. We’ll need to knuckle down on the diet and exercise a little more firmly — I know he was sliding off the wagon recently with foods because he’d had his blood sugar under control.
Frustrating, don’t know which tears up the heart more: bad, BAD boy crushes of youth, or loving nice but mortal men.
katymine @ 268
Sounds like you better get the bat.
TRex @ 262
*Snerk!* Now, that’s funny.
TRex @ 264
We did that earlier. had chicken too. Shoulda YooToobed it. I have a tripod.
OT,
But if I’m standing in Cheyenne on a busy street with a sign while rednecks stop their trucks to envelope me in diesel exhaust, you can do it as well.
http://www.worldcantwait.net/i…..Itemid=223
“Senator Chuck Schumer is a leading figure in the Democratic Party, and is playing a key role in setting the terms in the 2006 elections as the head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Schumer insists that we have to give up all our principles, hold our noses, and pour our energies into getting Democratic candidates elected who don’t actually oppose the Bush agenda. Moreover, Schumer’s critique of Bush comes down to the notion that the Democrats can wage the war on terrorism “stronger and smarter” than the current administration.”
• “As John Bolton, the neo-conservative warmonger Bush has appointed as ambassador to the UN, faces confirmation hearings in the Senate, Schumer said that “I think that if you count the votes, a filibuster is unlikely.” Asked why he now supports Bolton’s confirmation, Schumer said on CNN’s Late Edition this past July, “There’s a good part of Bolton. He’s been a staunch and very good defender of Israel.” Note that this was at the same time Israel was destroying the infrastructure of Lebanon, killing innocent civilians, and displacing a large part of the Lebanese population, all with the support of the US government. (”Schumer Says Bolton Won’t Face Filibuster”, New York Sun, 7/31/06)”
I hope Democrats win and do the right thing. I will be hedging my bets.
anjinsan
anjinsan
anjinsan
SPILL IT all ready……
TRex @ 270
Oohh.. Getting warmer! You’ve done this before!
I should totally do a talk show in my kitchen.
INDOOR LIVING WITH TREX!
It would be great.
I used to love The Kumars at No. 42.
darkblack #46 — it just hit me, but you might be my brother.
Jeepers, I don’t know that I ever told him the exotic dancer tried calling me several times after they divorced. I really don’t know why, either, she just wanted to chat.
???
fuggit. It’s geen simmons and a Tbsp o jiz and a one-hitter. coy my ass. coi?
And now we have Schumer and Bolton in play. This, after Charlie Rose and Ollie North. I really can’t compete. I can only pretend at depravity in the company of true masters.
MelodyMaker @ 280
Don’t you dare bring Ned the Fighting Koi into that thought bubble.
TRex @ 281
shit, shit, shit, I’m sorry big thing.
TRex — you know, your program could be a hit if you could keep it from getting too routine.
One day like the Thanksgiving dinner scene from Accidental Tourist.
Another like 9 1/2 Weeks in front of the refrigerator.
And maybe Martha Stewart every once in a while.
Besides, you’ve already written the soundtrack.
Heh.
MelodyMaker @ 283
Just don’t let it happen again.
Rayne @
279
Yeah, the ‘Let’s be friends’ line got tried in my scene.
But, and call me strict if you must…Friends don’t dump friends on the road 1200 miles from home.
Point of order
;>)
Well….. did anjinsan get away without coughing it up? …
TRex @ 282
How did he end up being called Ned? My usual practice is to wait until the pet in question does something to name itself.
Rayne – glad to hear the good news. And glad he got the reinforcement of “going to er is a good thing”
bad crushes or real life? now there’s a tricky question
and on that, it’s bedtime for me – sadly peapod is delivering early and I need to be semi-awake to answer the door and save them from our resident pup … once a month delivery of all the heavy stuff is my big indulgence but I really should have scheduled for like 3 in the afternoon and slept in!
‘nite all
katymine @ 287
Totally
katymine @ 287
Sigh.
It would seem so.
Right.
Off to bed.
Good night, y’all. Whew. Some party. We should do this again.
Geez, if they can sell “Dumb Rich Kids Inna Beach House,” an authentic existential from-the-kitchen show should sell itself.
Gotta be a bit careful about that “Man Show” vibe, though.
Siun did you read my comment @98?
darkblack — heh. Sorry, but that is rather humorous. At the time I’m sure it wasn’t funny.
Heh.
1200 long, long miles.
Friend? my *ss.
Oh well, that’s a lotta’ tequila under the bridge and gone. I know I helped bro’ drink an awful lot of it to wash that hija out of his thinning hair.
Allright, allright. I don’t think anyone close to me -knows- this, but my BAD CRUSH was Mrs. Ryder in the 7th grade. She was grievous bodily harm stopping just short of organ failure to a 7th grader only recently discovering his dick. She wore lace stockings with the line in the back that were somehow popular in the 80’s, but have vanished since then. Her full lips were lipsticked red every single day. To look at her was like I were a tuning fork and she the strike that set me ringing. Wow, wonder what happened to her.
anjinsan @ 292
More to the point, what happened to you? Is that tuning fork still ringing?
(See, that wasn’t so awful.)
It is, but 3,000 miles is a long way for vibrations to reach.
Before I head back to bed, did anybody ever point out to Donny Osmond-crusher BQ upthread that he’s got a hilarious bit in that White-and-Nerdy video by Yankovic?
‘Niters, west coasters. Mornin’, east coasters.
[yawn]
Rayne @ 294
At the time, it was Armageddon.
Now, it comes with its own laughtrack.
;>)
Rayne,
thanks, I’ll have to locate that one. I do like that he’s able to make fun of himself.
and your description of your bad crush was so vivid it sent me into flashbacks of college days and a really hot townie…truly a well-spun memory.
anjinsan @ 294
Word.
Here’s to time, space, and vibrations.
And so to bed.
Just spotted this Yahoo news item via Buzzflash: Libby plans to take the stand in own defense. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/apts/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060923/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak
What good does he think this will do considering the pitfalls of undergoing cross examination.
Just got here.
Bad crush: Joan Collins (25 yrs ago).
fahrender 151: I did the BEST BLOG POST EVER about Jeff Buckley a few days ago, Crooks&Liars linked to it. I’m just saying…
drouse,
I imagine it’s just posturing. That’s something they can back out on at the very last minute & claim that the trial circumstances warranted a change of tactics.
It gets the meme out there that Scooter “has nothing to hide — he intends to testify under oath” but Fitz can’t mention this bs in the press (or call him on it in any way) at trial if he doesn’t actually testify. (prohibited for the prosecution to allude at all to a defendant’s failure to testify on their own behalf)
1,268 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Yo Firepups:
OT but anybody known whatever happened ta “markfromireland”?
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION IT’S ONLY GUNNA GET WORSE!!
Now the death toll is 9/11 times two. U.S. military deaths from Iraq and Afghanistan now match those of the most devastating terrorist attack in America’s history.
I remember when Vietnam dealth toll jumped… how many? is 5,000 enough? Is 10,000 or just match it with the 50,000 lost in Vietnam…
writing from germany where it is not late night. It looks as if the political situation is taking a decidedly pro gooper tack and that congress will vote to authorize torture, suspension of the Geneva Conventions, and standard rights of the accused. They will do these things in order to get re-elected. Valiant Warriors each and every one. Makes ya wanna puke.
Good morning FDL! Great post T-Rex!
Guilty secret, I have a couple of bad-crushes. Tommy Lee Jones is right at the top this morning (watched Volcano, and then Double Jeopardy last night)
Well, Good Morning Firepups from this timezone.In SA, it is just past 12 noon on Saturday. A beautiful Spring day and today is the Wild Flower Show at the showgrounds; there will also be all the usual farm stuff going on there – this is a proper Country Fair.The vines are starting to green and the workers are getting their seasonal jobs back after a long,cold,hungry winter.
Buy SA wines ! (This ad brought to you by SA Winemakers Co-operative).
I always read TRex first here and my Bad Crush was : (wait for it)Bruce Willis in Moonlighting although Remington Steele did do dthings to my ovaries too.
Beardy–g’Morning; RW ditto..err still Morning there…red sky at sunrise and about 50 degrees.
Coals from last night’s fire, so it’s cosy here.
Peace & Blessings enough for all.
Mornin’ all? The lake seems calm and empty. There’s an echo in here.
echo echo
ping……..okay, here’s what Sharkbabe had to say last night on the Big Dawg thread…
“Clintons, both, remain enablers of Bush and BFEE. Both could use their stature to speak plain and kick fucking Rove bullshit ass. They do not. Why?
I have never felt more bereft, or felt more a blow upon a bruise, than to hear of Rangel, Pelosi, and even progressive radio people like Rachel Maddow, Stephanie Miller, all defending Bush against Chavez.
Fucking stunning, the kneejerk lapdog obedience.
Chavez is/was 5000% correct.
God god god.”
Comments?
1,268 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Mornin’ Firepups:
First, for a quick injection of purpose for livin’ go read the whole transcript of Big Dawg’s takedown of the little nazi Chris Wallace on Fox. It’s over on Talk Left and well worth the effort…I have a great deal of respect for MR. Cinton (not MRS.)and he convinced me in that interview that it’s best that the Democrats let the fascists play their Kabuki dance with torture…it ain’t gunna pass the smell test with the federal courts anyways and it takes a “terror” issue out of the election dynamic.
Now, can anyone tell me what’s happened to “markfromireland”….heven’t seen any posts from ‘im in some time?
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T LET YER DAUGHTERS DATE FASCISTS!!
1,268 dayz and the killin’ goez on and on and…
Old Sow:
Chavez WAS 500% right about Bush and his minions… so what if Hugo is a “thug” it’s only because he’s not OUR thug that everyone is scramblin’ ta spank ‘is hands.
KEEP THE FAITH AND REMEMBER THE ENEMY OF OUR ENEMY IS OUR FRIEND!!
Eli caught me: Fran Drescher.
And though it doesn’t quite rise to the level of crush, I will say I can understand Katherine Harris’s appeal.
(You asked for bad…)
Jane Hamsher @
13
My only man crush was Sam Watterston’s first season on Law & Order, but I’m not ashamed.
suezboo @
309
Where are you writing from?
SA is South Africa.
Norske, if I recall correctly, Mark from Ireland left the Lake many months ago. I hadn’t been here that long, but I got the sense that his focus and the focus here were not lined up quite right.
Siun might be able to better answer this, and you can check in with MFI at his blog:
http://www.gorillasguides.blogspot.com
CNN – french paper says OBL dead – died of typhoid in pakistan. paper claims to have confidential intel report. could this be rove’s october surprise… if it’s true?
I just wish that more world leaders were saying some of what Chavez said, so he wouldn’t sound so much like an outsider. Really, hardly anyone gets to the higher seats of power anywhere without slime being a part of their character. Chavez is no prince, but he does also dare to speak truth to power even if it is in the service of trying to muster his own power. This international political scene is so much Kabuki, it’s just that it’s no “play” for the folks on the ground where murderous actions are the realities.
SteveAudio @
303
i went to your blog and read it. thanks a lot. steve. now i have a better idea why i’d never heard of him until pach’s post. i was in Russia all of the years from when he became known until his death.
Fortune favors the bold.
Norskeflamethrower @
315
During the Cold War, the U.S. quite used a long line of thugs (aka “strongmen”) to control much of the world and keep communism at bay: Marcos, Diem, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, etc. Saddam Hussein served the same function against militant Islam, both the Iranian Revolution and the jihadists, as does Musharraf.
While I don’t consider that tactic to be ethical, it does seem to be effective up to a point, e.g., up to the Iranian revolution. In terms of realpolitik, that tactic was working well in Iraq even to the day we invaded.
“MASSCURE OF THE DREAMERS ” LET ANNA CASTILO WRITE FOR YOU OK and I will give you the ghetto pass of the first 50 familes of the mexica IN CHICAGIO from before the great DEPRSESION few are Oropeza but none but a fool would deny US! I don’t know how much time I have left. But you Jane Trex, Christy, Patrick you have my hope! Listen to me this once I will keep writing as long as I am able. Months years if the doctors are wrong BUT don’t be afraid!
Wig–I hope you meant “keep Communism at bay” and not keep Communism at bay. I recently read Overthrow by Stephen Kinzer, and a great review of it in The Progressive. Most of our support of strongmen was designed to give the US a trade advantage.
Can you say more, mOropeza?
Oops, Norske had an accident and left us an extra bold in #315.
suezboo — nice to see you, and thanks for the tip. I need to buy some wine this morning for an evening event and SA-grown might do nicely. (Ditto on the Remington Steele, but actually find Brosnan more attractive now that he’s older.)
rwcole — hang tight, there maybe some machinations going on backend. There was a suggestion last night at DailyKos that a poison pill get added to the bill, and I think it’s one helluva plan. I’m going to pitch it on Monday to my Senators.
Eli @
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OMG Ewwwwwwwwwww.
Well, maybe if she came equipped with a ball gag. That mental image made even Scotty McClellan sound better!
I used to live to see Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar get ordered to do something and turn and stride off down the hall of the Enterprise.
Best. Ass. Ever.
mORopreza — I look to the people of Mexico for examples of dealing with fascists; my professional work requires that I watch MX, and I see continued reason for hope. Wish that we here could provide the same for you.
“Nationwide Actions ‘Declare Peace’, Raise Pressure on Congress”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/onewor…..1158960617
“And what I came to realize is that our strongest weapons as a nation are not bombs and missiles,” he added. “Our strongest defense is the power of our ideas. It is what we believe about democracy and respect for human dignity.”
We are discussing this torture bill debacle as if the Democrats decided gthat the mosrt successful strategy to keep torture from being the law of the land is to quietly support McCain et al.
Has anyone considered the possibility that our Democratic leaders like th eidea of torture jusrt as much as the President? That they support his position and think they are tough because of it?
During all the 1980’s I watched both parties trip over themselves to be tough on crime — heavier sentences, elimination of habeas corpus, attacks on Miranda…. This just strikes me as the natural progression of that impulse.
Not optimistic here, friends.
Old Sow @
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Well, I had my say about Chavez and Bill on that last thread (#159 about Bill. I don’t remember the # for Hugo just now). I’m standing up for both of them for different reasons. I worked for a guy in Venezuela that Chavez tried to draw into his circle. My boss didn’t go for it. He did respect Chavez at first but later changed his mind. Chavez is in a really difficult position in Venezuela because of both the oligarchy there and American foreign policy as regards him.
As for Bill, I think that there are very few people in this country who could stand up to the vitriolic abuse and criticism that guy has put up with for the past 20 years or more and even think about staying in the public eye, much less espouse any opinion that would be at variance with that of a South Carolina garbage collector. Clinton is not my favorite politician but he has my respect, generally, for what he did as a president and what he has done since leaving office.
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fwiw, I have 3 pitbulls named Hugo, Evo & Fidelito … they are staunch defenders of the people!
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I can’t believe nobody has posted the full interview with clinton on video
that snippet here at the lake was just foreplay, I need the climax and the cigatette
oh rmutzali @ 94
Good God!! Check this out.
Marty Lederman has a post at Balkinization where he compares that chart to what the Geneva conventions prohibit. He also links to a very relevant 1946 essay by Orwell.
Mental disorders plague more Iraq, Afghanistan war veterans in US
“More than one-third of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans seeking medical treatment from the Veterans Health Administration report symptoms of stress or other mental disorders — a tenfold increase in the last 18 months, according to an agency study.”
http://www.iht.com/bin/print_i…..Stress.php
hmm problems editing etc.
anyways about 38 years ago my best friend became Niki (formerally Kathy) as in Ilya Nikovitch Kuryakin…and is known as Niki by all to this day.
I have a thing for bad boys,and always end up heartbroken(((sigh))),but here goes….
Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue. Can’t help it,don’t know why,but there it is. He’d never even notice me as I am not a blond with large floatation devices, but I STILL have a crush on him,have for about 20 yrs.
Pull up a chairis upstairs!
Not quite sure if this counts as a “bad crush,” but I was telling someone about how cool Nina Hagen was and how she did this really neat German version of White Punks on Dope. My buddy at work remarked: “Geez Rich, you not only like these really off-the-wall people, you’re their fan!
I dated mine for three months. It nearly killed me. I got it out of my system, I guess.
Wigwam — thanks for that link to Balkinization and the NYT chart.
NOWHERE ON THAT CHART DOES IT SAY THIS IS NEVER PERMITTED ON UNDERAGE PERSONS OR CHILDREN, OR THE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED.
This administration is morally effing bankrupt.
My bad crush is Tommy Lee Jones. (Not Tommy Lee)
I just got here. Let’s say that we’re too old to stay up late.
My bad crush? I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned him yet. Yes, it’s true: I have The Thing That Won’t Die for Patrick Fitzgerald. The sheer mass of my crush on him threatens to block the light from the sun. In my mind, he’s a cross between Superman and a dragon slayer.
It’s truly pathetic.
-S
There’s something in the air.
Hello everyone. I’m a little bit nervous here for two reasons: first, because I’ve been lurking around for just about a year and posting for the first time is a bit like going to your first day at a new school–my palms are sweaty and I’m not sure if I’m dressed right; second, because I’m about to tell my secret crush. My crush is someone that I’ve never even seen, but his writing makes me laugh and cry and think and get angry. I find myself looking forward to reading about what’s on his mind and always wish that I had even the tiniest bit of the talent with words that he has. In short, he makes me happy.
I’m breaking the rules a little since this isn’t a bad crush, just a secret one. But I need to get it off my chest and throw it out there; I’ll just conveniently bury it under this pile of comments and maybe no one will notice…
TRex.
I feel better now. Thanks.
One more story…when I was 12 I got my firt Lovin’ Spoonful record. I fell hard for Zal
Yanovsky at first, later and longer for John Sebastian.
The local radio station used to plug all the bands who came to play at the Auditorium. They also tried to drum up frenzy by announcing the flight arrivals of the bands so there’d be teeming masses at the airport to greet them.
They said the LS were coming in at 10 am, but my girlfriend and I wanted to get there early so we got up at 4am and told our parents we were helping her brother with his paper route (wow, that really dates me, huh? Do they even have those anymore?)
We arrived at the airport at 6:30 am and whatya know, they had just arrived. There was no one else there and these, well, boys (I think one of them was 17 at the time) were sooooo sweet to us. They talked and joked with us for almost an hour. They bought us each an Archie Comic and a pack of gum. They were all set to give us a ride home in their limo when their manager screamed “Are you crazy??? They’re F-ing jailbait!!!” but he paid for our cab ride. Sigh. At the time I had no idea what he meant. John Sebastian was funny and sweet, Zal was musky and dark and broody. Whew! took me a long time to get over him.
kristine: wipe your palms on your jeans, dear, you look just fine. Come back soon. I suspect you’re not the only one with a crush on a 60 ft. theropod. There may be support groups forming…
Secret crush?
The Prissy Patriot, when she’s decked out in full combat gear with red lipstick. Cutest little thing you ever did see.
I’d fight the Canadians for her
Ah, and for me it was at one time Dana DeLaney and Marge Helgenberger. Never could decide which.
Funny how I try to never miss CSI.
In addition to being one of many with a crush on Johnnie Knoxville, I find
Chris Noth (Law & Order, Sex in the City, etc.) irresistable. Also Chris Parnell of SNL and Steve Carrell.
Kiersten Dunst. I even watched the stupid cheerleading movie once, ‘cos it was on my TV and she was in it. And she is simultaneously the best and worst thing about the Spiderman flicks…
Brandi @
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“Brandi (You’re A Fine Girl)“
(As recorded by Looking Glass)
ELLIOT LURIE
There’s a port on a western bay
And it serves a hundred ships a day
Lonely sailors pass the time away
And talk about their homes
And there’s a girl, in this harbor town
And she works, laying whiskey down
They say “Brandi, fetch another round”
She serves them whiskey and whine
funny enough, it’s Joan Jett. and I’m a (mostly) straight woman.
Who was that guy who was in Office Space and then Sex and the City? Although he played such an asshole in Sex and the City that it kind of killed it for me.
30 years ago. Linda Ronstadt.
never saw a jackass show or movie, but I did like Knoxville on TDS last week. Dude has a sense of humor beyond yak goring stunts. You did see him, right?
My secret crush: Peter Lorre after I saw M. I thought he was a hell of an actor to make that child murderer slightly sympathetic, or that’s what I told myself. It was probably the bug eyes that did it for me.
David Lee Roth, bare-chested and sweaty on that Van Halen album cover so many years ago – grrrowww!! “Ain’t talkin’ ’bout love,” indeed.
And although I loathe him with every fiber of my being, there’s something about Rumsfeld’s sleek, arrogant WASPishness that’s strangely compelling.
Peter Kriss, the cat from Kiss. I spent all of middle school drawing pictures of him, trying to imagine his face without the makeup, and defending him. (Growing up in the Bible Belt, I was always denying that Kiss stood for “Knights in Satan’s Service”) I still have his solo album. Still hum “I Can’t Stop the Rain” to myself, from time to time.
When he left his wife, though, I left him! I cried for Lydia. I was so glad she took his money in the divorce, after all she’d done to keep that band fed and clothed in their early, dark days. Yep, Peter was my BAD crush.
kate r @ 357
Oh, I totally get it about Peter Lorre!
Hey, I’m epu’d… day late, dollar short…
Jane Hamsher @ 13
well, I’m a guy, but mine too. huge crush on Joan Jett.
there was a Spin magazine cover article on her, and that cover, and the picture inside of her standing outside in winter with an ankle-length overcoat are my two fave pictures of her.
one of the highlights of my life was actually meeting her and getting to chat a bit with her on two occasions after shows. She opened for Deep Purple once, and I went just to see her band, and then left. she was one of the nicest, sweetest people there could be, which you wouldn’t really expect from just her image. but true, she was just a sweetheart.
The ultimate tall, thin, blonde, incredibly smart, dominatrix Bad Girl.
Jane Hamsher.
little late for this subject. But… I used to have the hugest crush on Geena Davis back in the 90’s. I watched “Speechless” something like 9 times in the theater (and, er, it was pretty bad.)
Come to think of it, I’m still pretty crushy on her. But not enough to watch her TV show.