
Last night, I found myself in a private dining room at an upscale San Francisco eatery with four Democratic funding luminaries: a Bay Area venture capitalist, a honcho from an online auction site that shall remain nameless, a member of the Democracy Alliance and a Bay Area developer. I was, by the way, looking very forward to this dinner. Even bought my first pair of Jimmy Choos for the occasion--making me a mere 6'1".
I'd just finished reading about Rajiv Chandrasekaran's new book, Imperial Life in the Emerald City, in the Washington Post and my mood was buoyed by a mainstream paper rightfully taking BushCo to task for its rampant cronyism in the war profiteering "reconstruction" efforts in Iraq. I sang along to my James Blunt CD as I drove across the Golden Gate Bridge. Parking karma smiled upon me and I found a space just steps from the restaurant. I had some bounce in my step as I approached the hostess. She, too, loved the Choos.
Call me Polly Anna, but I was feeling hopeful. If one could look past Bush's win on the torture front yesterday, and consider the president's current numbers in the polls and the effect they just might have on the midterm elections...well, then...there was room for a little optimism about the proposition that someday soon, right-wing fanatics might not control both the executive and legislative branches of our government, and we may someday be able to reverse Bush's immoral and dangerous policies on torture--and rejoin the civilized world. Oh, and I was itching to share with these funders some of my thoughts on how exciting it was to see the blogs, progressive policy and membership groups, independent media, DC establishment Dems and the Clinton Faction all come together and lead the charge to keep ABC/Disney's "Path to 9/11" from offering up a Republican airbrushing of history as "the official, true story" of our national tragedy. That was our infrastructure at work. Heck, we'd managed to get the corporate media and even some high-profile conservatives to take the network to task. There was much more about the blogs I wanted to share, too--the excitement about ideas and activism, the communication, the amplification of new voices and new messages. And in a San Francisco crowd, I was expecting to see some of my excitement reflected back at me.
Ummm...not. These funders sucked the life blood and optimism out of me in under half an hour. And left me plenty depressed today, I might add. But, now I'm just pissed.
Once again, I find myself in the awkward spot of not really being able to name names, because I was there as an invited guest, and I mostly don't want to hurt my hosts' chances of ever being funded again. But so much of what I see on the left can be so damned ridiculous that I believe it's my duty to expose and try to change it. If we can't talk about these things, admit they're counter-productive, fix the mindset and move on, we'll always be stuck in our losing ways. So, here goes.
The host of the dinner, Simon Rosenberg, of NDN and the New Politics Institute (of which I'm a fellow) first ran through a rousing litany of activities our group has been up to over the last year, highlighted some of what he finds hopeful as we head into the midterms, and then he mentioned the tremendous response he was getting to a memo that NPI released this week about the strategy of buying more cable for ads and reducing the amount of dollars wasted in scattershot fashion in buying only broadcast time for political ads. Some of the entrenched Dem consultants in DC were mightily upset about this advice from NPI, as they get 15% off the top of those huge broadcast buys, and make far less off cable buys. But, cable impressions are more targeted and get more bang for each buck. This by the way, is only news to Democratic candidates, as Republicans and most advertising execs will tell you that cable is where it's at in TV these days. You can read the report here. Markos, who is also an NPI fellow, weighed in as well.
Now let me first say this. The developer guy was enthusiastic, about everything. Expecially about windsurfing. So, no complaints there. But you should have seen the sour pusses on the other three. Sour, unimpressed and each ready to launch into their tired list of concerns and complaints as only the Monied Left can do. Never mind that NPI was doing something, urging consultants and media buyers to add something new and different to their bag of tricks--attempting to reduce waste and misdirected messaging. Democracy Alliance Gal turned up her nose and came back with, "Yes, but what effect are those cable impressions having?" What I wanted to say was, "Well, sugar, we don't know yet, because we're just about to start trying out this strategy...but what we been doin' ain't been so hot, and the Republicans kick our asses on targeted messaging." The other two funders, following her lead, muzzled any enthusiasm they might have felt bubbling up to the surface about this new strategy idea. Strike One.
For your sake, dear readers, I'm only picking the four things that bugged me most about this dinner. What was Strike Two, you ask? Well it was when Online Auction Guy coolly lambasted Simon for (I believe he said) bending over backwards to support the blogosphere, "...when you know that the blogs are leading us down the path of unelectability." He blasted the blogs for getting Ned elected in the primary. This pompous statement was also incredibly hypocritical because Online Auction Guy had also just held forth on his company's amazing efforts to promote net neutrality to their users. I asked him, "What about the blogs' tremendous work to fight for net neutrality?" And on this point he casually threw a scrap of compliment the blogs' way, while clearly thinking Online Auction Company was the true leader of the Save the Internet Coalition.
Venture Capital Man, who hadn't read the Buy Cable memo, and probably wasn't aware of many of the other memos NPI has released this year trying to lay out the technological and political opportunities that progressives and Democrats need to capitalize on in order to make some important strides, advised that Simon's group should write a strategy memo, akin to the infamous Powell Memo that launched this Golden Age of Wingnutdom. Taken together, the strategy memos that NPI has offered up begin to look a lot like their Dem 2.0 version of the 1971 Powell Memo, but Venture Capital Man just hadn't connected the dots. Strike Three.
Before Simon and others could explain this, however, Democracy Alliance Gal piped in with that old standard, about how Democrats and progressives just don't stand for anything. "I just don't know what they stand for." She's in charge of handing out money, but isn't curious enough, or smart enough to know what Democrats and progressives stand for? The common good, social justice, equality, security AND civil liberties, generally believing in, well, our Constitutional rights and protections, etc., honey. She doesn't know what we stand for? Please. I AM SO TIRED of hearing self-hating Democrats/progressives complaining that we have no ideas and that we stand for nothing. Sadly, it's usually the people that hold the purse strings who don't know what we stand for, and they would rather hold on, white-knuckled, to the money and complain rather than reward those that are doing something. They're rich. What have they got to lose, really? Strike Four.
So, my lost optimism today has me hopping mad. Hey, Funders! Look around. It's a new world since 1992, and Bill Clinton can't save you Centrist Democrats who've capitulated over and over and moved so far to the right that you're where conservative Republicans use to be. We are not "crazy 60s types" who don't care about winning elections. And we are not the radical fringe. What we are is the growing voice of a Democratic party that actually stands for Democratic principles and a progressive agenda. The blog audiences are growing, and we're starting to get heard on the national stage. We're getting things done, and talking to others, getting them involved, active, signing up new voters, raising money. We're publishing books and getting them onto the bestseller lists. We want to work with you to get more done, to get more Democrats and progressives elected.
There's plenty being done. Plenty of folks who do know what progressives and Democrats stand for. Plenty of successful efforts. How about noticing, and letting some money flow? In case you haven't read it, here's how the conservative philanthropists do it.
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think progress has the clinton transcript…excellant, I can’t wait for the u tube
fitz!!!!!!!!!!!!
…And Soros doesn’t want to get into the media business.
What we are witnessing is the shrieking and groaning as conventional wisdom is being forced onto a new path. I cite Broder as the prime case this week, and your dinner companions as cases two through four, but fortunately not five.
Try again on the Lieberman/Sembler child abuse shame story at kos. Extremely weird how my comment here disappeared, the comment I was quoting disappeared, and the story at kos disappeared. I would say this is spiritual warfare.
http://www.dailykos.com/hotlis.....laystory//
This is a different but related kos diary. Recommend love please.
I was wondering today if the Dem consultants were really Republicans pretending to be Dems so that they could make the Dems lose.
I think you have proved they are and that they have managed to take Dem donors with them.
Eli @ 5
Expletive Deleted.
What the FUCK does he think money is for???
full transcript, Clinton mops the floor with Walace! Damn! LOL
http://thinkprogress.org/clinton-interview
Re: I’d just finished reading about Rajiv Chandrasekaran’s new book, Imperial Life in the Emerald City, in the Washington Post and my mood was buoyed by a mainstream paper rightfully taking BushCo to task for its rampant cronyism in the war profiteering “reconstruction” efforts in Iraq.
I’m half way through the book, highly recomend
It’s hard. Just when you think you’re making strides, and you can feel the energy giving you the push to keep the momentum going, you run into the buzzkill, and there’s no time for a pity party, because there’s too much at stake, so you take the anger these people provoke in you - not the least of which is from knowing how much YOU would do if you had the kind of money at your disposal that they have at theirs - and you use it to get moving again.
I think we can no longer wonder why these types don’t seem to get it - does money make some people stupid? - we just have to get the message out however we can.
Never underestimate the power of a woman in Jimmy Choos…those babies were made for kickin’ ass…*g*
and of course, when he did try to do anything, the wingnuts screamed “blue dress!”
http://americablog.blogspot.co.....h-for.html
Sorry Jennifer. They don’t sound like the sharpest knives in the box.
I mean, can the blogosphere be any MORE “cutting-edge” and “what’s happening now” in politics?
Perhaps you should have suggested to them that they consult John Dean… Joe Wilson… Keith Olbermann…President Clinton.. about who the cool kids really are.
I hope they DO read this.
Hey Morons! Wake up!
Call Jennifer. Or her “Host”.
OT - Snippet of the Fox News interview w/Clinton. They are hyping it for Sunday, so it looks like they will play the whole thing.
YouTube link to Clinton/Wallace interview
I hope you can return the shoes.
Thank you for an aggravating post, Jen. (Not you, the funders.) Is there any way to get “the blogs” equated with “informed activists?”
Wonderful post. I don’t know if this is even possible, but something I’ve been wondering is if, instead of giving to individual campaigns, the “evil, radical blogosphere” could contribute to one central fund, which would then disburse the funds based NOT on how much any one donor had given but on, dare I say it, an ELECTION by the donors?
Shortly after the 2004 fiasco I started to pledge $25 a month (just about what I can afford right now) to Democracy for America. I’ve never been sure what they’ve done with the bucks… But I live in hopes that they put some boots on the ground…
As I said, just spitballing here, but could something like this be put together??
And you’ve got that little smirk on your face. It looks like you’re so clever…
Wow, nailed him.
when does this air?
off-topic, but same state at least:
cal state u. professors urge students to give ah-nold an ‘f’!
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Alison @ 8
According to Matt Stoller, absolutely.
WALLACE: Do you think the White House and the Republicans want to make the American people afraid.
CLINTON: Of course they do. They want another homeland security bill and they want to make it not about Iraq but some other security issue.
http://thinkprogress.org/clinton-interview
Also, I’d like to bring up a slightly tangential matter:
Reading the Wallace/Clinton transcript, I can’t help but wince everytime I see the Big Dog and any other Dem calling the current crop of republicans “conservative”. The party has evolved out from under that label, and we still use it. There’s no excuse for it, call it like it is.
We should not currently be saying, “conservative republicans” or “conservative right wingers” or “conservative news networks”. In each and every instance we should be saying “radical republicans” “radical right wingers” “radical news networks” etc.
me to me @
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But do you think this will shake Bill out of his overall stupor? He is probably one of the most powerful weapon the Dems have the next 3 years, but only if something lights a fire under his ass.
If he isn’t ready to rumble now, he never will be. It happens with people who’ve had near-death experiences. Just happy to be alive another day; Pickles, join me on stage to celebrate.
I’m glad he survived, but like Fitz before him we cannot put all of our eggs in his basket.
This is so great. THANK YOU Jennifer! It’s not just California. They’re here in Iowa too. Whaddya want, people, a warranty? Get in there and make something happen, for heaven’s sake.
We have good people,trying to make headway against the Giant F**ing Machine, and they aren’t helping. Because the DCCC isn’t “targeting,” or whatever. For shame.
This election is the Hail Mary pass, folks. If we sit on our hands, we will only be using them for wringing from here on out. Get off your ass and your checkbook and HELP.
me to me
FULL TRANSCRIPT: Clinton Takes On Fox News
Today, President Bill Clinton taped an interview with Fox
snip
Your comment is a little misleading. That’s NOT the full transcript. This is…
http://thinkprogress.org/clinton-interview
Hi, All–I’m writing this from a borrowed computer at a meeting, so sorry for some initial typos. Think I’ve caught them all now, and thanks, Jane, for fixing the photo! Dunce cap for the funders last night.
Umm, I wonder if New Deal/New Frontier/Great Society Democrats–the people for “common good, social justice, equality, security AND civil liberties, generally believing in, well, our Constitutional rights and protections, etc.,” as you say, aren’t the real enemy to the DLC types.
After all, the rich are getting the real tax cuts and it has been the Reagan Democrats and conservative Republicans and DLC types who’ve been keeping their taxes very low compared to traditional standards.
The rich, be they nominally Democrats or Republicans like the status quo. They don’t like any suggestion of returning to the days when the rich paid their affordable share. Appeals for democracy and social justice don’t appeal to their core self-interest.
That may be one of the reasons why any mention of the `60s is made so disparagingly by them–the nominal top rate on the wealthiest among us then was 70%….
Interesting post Jennifer. No doubt that was discouraging. Of all the people to see what liberal bloggers can do (and have done) to build momentum, Bay Area VCs and “online auction” honchos should really get it.
The whole electability theme makes me angry. Particularly so, since the season it was used to such effect with Dean, who was one of the few that was telling it like it is. Unlike centrists like Lieberman or Clinton for that matter. Why is it that the Republican party keeps tacking further and further to the right…and winning! Result? We now have a smirking jackass for a president. Leading Republicans lining up to address Focus on the Family alongside Ann Coulter. A DEBATE IN THE US SENATE ABOUT SANCTIONING TORTURE, PROTECTING THE TORTURERS, USE OF SECRET EVIDENCE AND SUSPENSION OF HABEAS CORPUS.
And these people bring up “electability”?? Electability clearly is what you make it.
It’s about speaking about what you believe with passion. The right happens to believe that anything you in the name of “protecting the country” is fine. On the left we believe that preserving our system of just application of laws and humane treatment in spite of a how those we fight treat us is the very essence of the country. To sacrifice that is to lose.
This election should be a cake walk. The only reason it is not is that the Democratic party, with the help of Lieberman, and yes Clinton have been edging further and further into Republican-lite land. And the Republicans have become progressively worse…slowly boiling the frog.
It seems to be the same thing with the ensconced elite everywhere-I’ve heard similar stories from Texas.
I can guarantee them one thing-if they do not fund new ideas that are bubbling up on the new activism fronts their money will be worth less and less and less in a nation they will no longer recognize.
We cannot guarantee victory-no one can-but we can see where the present path leads, and realize that the wind in our face is from the edge of the cliff.
Balrog @
24
What’s it called when I continue to quote myself?
I’ve been told for years that if I’m not part of the solution, I’m part of the problem. So,
Regardless of what Der GrossHund does in reaction, if Fux doesn’t air this interview in its entirety, we need to go all out crazy. Spotlight needs to melt. Be ready, Jedi.
Jennifer, you have no idea how lucky you are that I wasn’t there. Honest to goodness I am sitting her just furious at those as*holes. When I get mad I have a difficult time holding my tongue and would probably have given DA gal a very large piece of my mind.
Thanks for the good post and an excellent excuse to see how much vodka is left. I hope the food was good enough to have made the dinner a little worthwhile. It is totally beyond me how anyone could say we don’t stand for anything. Well Fu*k them!
skippy @ 19
skippy, what do you think of the Bush-Arnold ad? Seems like a total waste of $$ to me.
Very risk adverse group it sounds like. Read through the previous comments there are some possiblities. A grassroots effort to fund somethings might get things started. Ask people who are progressives in what they do in their communities but haven’t been asked by anyone to help a project like yours. They might be people who don’t have the $$’s of the group you met with but might be actually closer to their communities and more in-tune with needs. Connect the dots of those needs to the politics that affect them.
What do you want to bet that fox will “edit ” the interview in order to make Clinton look bad? Clinton and all real Dems should stop being interviewd by fox news and ABC news FOREVER . Also Dems have to walk away from poltical debates where the questions are known in advance, there are no follow up questions and you can’t ask your opponent a question. We must use the media or BE USED. Fox should have their FCC license pulled and if the Dems have any brains they will pull it
Jen Nix: Incredibly timely and well written post!
me to me: thanks for posting the transcript of Clinton with that prostitue in the blue suit.
No time to comment. We’re off to raise money for a local assembly candidate so she can win!
General Election all 50 States:
1 month, 14 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, and 13 seconds!!!
btw - Democracy Now interview with Bolivian Prez Morales es Bueno!
Jennifer, I imagine that the frustration we are all feeling upon seeing and hearing such things is more symptomatic of our uncommon lightfootedness and ease to transition running up face-to-wall first with the more common groan of others while they retrain brain synapses to hop to new connections.
People are slower to change than anything else they do. Change is a move to the unknown, the unknown is a bit scary. The fear of change is what keeps people in icky marriages.
For those of us who embrace change, who embrace new technologies, new ideas, the stodgie are utmost frustrating. It makes you feel like you’re trying to pull a dinosaur from a tarpit.
Keep heartened.
“And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they’ve given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it’s not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger’s wall.”
We just gots to do more heart and head banging. :)
The GOP remains plenty exposed on several
weak spots on their political flanks. That
the DEMS fail to mount either some hard
hit and run attacks or pick out one,two or
three of the weak spots and start shelling
them without letup points to DEMS tactical
failure or timidity. The GOP is big on the
power of money and entrenched multiplier
effect in DC these days. The BIG LIE telling,
CPA scandal,fiscal train wreck it is running
down the tracks towards the wash out of
real world fiscal rules remain fully open
to attack. The torture,wiretap and terrible
detainment and legal stooging the GOP is
selling are fully un-American and ripe for
attack. But the DEMS are not attacking and
it is painfully obvious this failure does
lead to questions of how relevant or in
fact useful is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY anymore?
Ms Nix,
We are so screwed. I occasionally ask (on blogs) what does it mean to be a progressive or even a democrat? Like me, many will chime in with wonderful descriptions but we all are working off of our own platform, imo. Another question I have, are we progressive democrats the base of our party and specifically what percentage of dems are we?
Interesting story about your dinner. I wonder what the answers to my first two questions would be from your fellow diners. What do they want?
Attacking or dismissing blogs is like attacking race. It’s lumping far to many people and ideas together. period. Good blogs are the best think tank in history like it or not. I suspect many do not and should just learn to say so.
How much money are they spending while refusing to acknowledge cable buys are a bargain for target budget marketing? duh hello? we are not trying to sell autos or beer here folks. Of course many voters are also nearly impossible to reach through television because of tivo and simply not watching the idiot box at all. Have they heard of Howie Klein and Had Enough?
Sounds like the big dogs (at your table) need a clear platform and some (direction) leadership.
I also suspect the foul air of torture and war weighs heavy on every sentient being in these truly dark times, even nice dinners.
Glad you left your bullwhip at home. If you wanted dim sum it was in your own neighborhood.*s*
Clinton, on Countdown, chose to label himself a “progressive”.
Come on in, Big Dog, the water’s fine!
Jennifer thanks for this beautifully written post and for fighting the honorable fight. I am sorry it sucked, but at least you have your Choos! ;)
Let’s hear the chickenhawks and the defenders and promoters of torture spin this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14959937/
I shudder to think of the total dead and injured– Americans, Iraqis and Afghans… and more.
The whole single reason the repukes have more money to buy their incumbents seats over and over is the Protection racket they are running by Obsessing over making Merica “safer” and yet it can’t be safe enough until 11/7 puts them back in office where they will be safe. The rest of us our soldiers will go on dying from terrist attacks over there instead of here, our elderly will remain dazed and powerless with an insane Prescription drug bill, millions more will lose health care coverage, and the costs of fuel will soar again sending airlines, truckers, local govts into a tailspin of inflated costs…It is just one huge scam Bush & Co are perpetrating on us
and the lambs cannot stay silent–look at the outrage and outcry in Mexico, the courage of the military in Thailand. All our blogging is nothing compared to the energy bursting on the streets in those nations!
What do Democrats Stand For?
Hope and Opportunity —
Government that is:
Fair — Honest — and Real —
Take it away, Democratic Candidates!!!
The Time has come, to stand up for Democratic Values —
The Time has come — to Stand Up For America . . .
Jennifer, I should have added as well that for many, many people the whole of the internet is something they’ve just scratched the surface on. I can recall having discussions with clients, wealthy clients with computers in the late nineties about why the internet was so important and changing everything and they barely got it.
So now, it’s understanding the concept of blogs, then how blogs work, then who writes blogs, can they trust bloggers, does anyone really read blogs, what power do blogs have, how do they impact the real world. This is a steep learning curve for some people.
Think about it, Hillary and Bill just got it and they’re no idiots.
Anyway, I say all this to buck you up, not to knock any of the wind out of your sails. Consider yourself ahead of the learning curve and throw out some honey to those fundy flies.
mOropeza @
35
I agree. See 31.
Is there a Janet Jackson special on tonight? Billy Ray Cyrus? Public hangings?
Where have the comments been today?
Jack Balkin has a profound post up at his web site. It hurts to read it, but I recommend everyone does so. For the legalists, I must mention that it has a link to the full text of the Bush/McCain compromise Millitary Commissions Act, which I can’t bear to look at. Sigh!
I’m going to speculate that the torture bill agreement took the wind out of some sails.
Shake it off! We need to fight harder when the news is preposterous and depressing. If we slack, we lose.
If you’re down from the day’s news, go out and donate $5 to every candidate. Then come back tomorrow when the news is good and congratulate yourself for making a difference.
It works.
In case you’re interested, Rajiv Chandrasekaran was interviewed by Diane Rehm today about his book, Imperial Life in the Emerald City. You can hear it here but you probably don’t want to listen if you’re about to go to bed. It will raise your blood pressure.
What do Democrats Stand For?
We stand for many things — most of all, we stand for giving everyone a fair shake.
The problem with Democrats?
The have not kept up with the times; their consultants are mercenaries, instead of champions — and most of all, our Democratic American Values have not been distilled into high powered soundbites.
And our team needs — high powered soundbites . . .
Balrog @ 46
The site has been acting a tad quirky. That might have something to do with it. This was the first post for me that went fine.
SharonW @ 51
Thought so.
Everyone, we cannot afford a down day. We can be sorry for news but that’s want KKKarl wants.
He wants to demoralize voters and activists: it’s the last hope they have.
Everybody redouble your effort when news is depressing. That’s when we need the most effort.
Balrogs are historically positive and Pollyanish. See Lord of the Rings:Fellowship of the Ring for proof.
Brownandserve @ 49
I’m reading the book, this is FDL Book Salon material, *hint*hint* ; )
“Michael Brown times 100″
Jennifer–
Thank you for the dose of truth. If these “funders” had the best interests of the Democratic Party at heart, they’d be happy to receive your criticisms.
But they don’t and won’t. Instead they’ll continue to be dismissive of blogs in general, without ever understanding that many of the answers are right here.
Again, thanks!
no rich people will help us take back our country.
it’s all on us.
oh, except for NED.
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Had Enough?
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Balrog @ 51
Well you certainly sound like someone who has immersed themselves in J.R. Tolkien.
I read those books back when I was a teen (I’ve been saying that a lot tonight). I had read “The Hobbit” and was totally enamored. My Easter present from my mom when I was fifteen was the Triology.
So many times I was disappointed by attempts to make it a cartoon or some such. I was utterly thrilled when Jackson brought it to life as it should be.
Long before the movie was even released my son and I named our little pug “Frodo.” :)
God, do we ever need to have this conversation. The people with the money are in disarray. They are in disarray because it’s not enough just to have the money. They really need to dig a little deeper. They need to understand a whole lot of things before they get involved. They need to be prepared. And open. Do some homework. They need to not default to what the party’s been doing for the last 30 years. They need to be freakin’ curious. They need to look at and understand with an honest and open mind what is going on here. Don’t just dial into the WaPo and the NYT and the NPR cream of wheat pablum. Dig. Dig deep.
Jen, this is where it’s at. It only makes me more determined to kick it. I’m only sorry you had to sit through this mess. At least there’s the Jimmy Choo’s.
Jennifer,
I am on the board of a very tiny non-profit working in a very poor place, 50% unemployment. I wish I had sugar daddies and mommies but that is rare. You guys asked and they said no. Ask someone else. Then ask someone else. Sooner or later someone will say yes. If you are in the Bay Area, Babylon-by-the-Bay, you are in the center of Blue America. Berkeley professors, Gay America, granola crunchers out the ying-yang! Seek and you shall find so don’t despair, just don’t waste anymore time on these “donors”. I doubt seriously if their interests are yours.
Dang, people, the rich won’t miss an opportunity. They’re simply uneducated and ignorant at this point.
See my posts above (not the Frodo one :D ). Change seems very slow if you’ve already done it. The butterfly laments the catepillar in his cocoon.
New thread. The Big Dawg kicks some Faux “News” and Republican ass.
gotta be careful about electing more fake, phony, “progressives” like Barack Obama who won’t take a stand on important issues in the senate, and use his political capital for something, but instead will simply coast on his suberb marketing amongst those to left of the Clinton faction…
A suggestion to everyone who has donated through the efforts of Howie Klein and this blog. When you get the fundraising appeals from candidates you donated to through Act Blue, send them some additional $$’s and a message that the blogosphere has made this additional donation possible. We have to remind these folks who loves them. And when big money people see these politicians paying attention to blogs like this and Kos then the big $$’s boys and girls will start taking you seriously.
Balrog @
31
The word, according to *ilson, is omphaloskeptical
AZ Matt @ 57
Just a small clarification. I believe that NDN/NPI was attempting to raise money from these folks, and they likely have given money to Simon before and may again. I was there to talk up the blogs and citizen action and to talk about new possibilities…but their attitudes were extremely backward-looking. They honestly think we are the enemy, hurting electability, etc.
I was hoping to share with them news of new folks, to suggest that some operating money for blogs, to build on the successes so far that people like Jane and others have done WITH NONE OF THEIR HELP, strictly on people power and their own commitment. I was hoping to be a liason, an ambassador. But they don’t care about what works. I’ll write more on this, but had a crazy day today. Take the time to follow that link at the end, as it’s to the National Committee on Responsive Philanthropy, which tells how the right has accompished. BECAUSE THEY FUND GOOD WORK…FOR A LONG TIME.
SharonW @ 56
My Pomeranian is named Pippin. And those movies gave me hope and a much needed distraction for 3 years after 9/11.
We must keep our eye on the ball. Even if we don’t take back Congress, we must continue to fight and educate. Think of Markos kicking that donkey in the ass. We need to keep kicking no matter what.
Gamling: “We cannot defeat the armies of Mordor.”
Theoden: “No, we cannot. But we will meet them in battle nonetheless.”
Jennifer,
Martin Luther King struggled against the odds but in the end he knew they would get to the promised land and I think so shall you. Bless you for what you do.
That James Blunt CD softened you up, Jennifer… Should have been listening to Black Flag, Motorhead, or the DK’s.
;>)
Kidding…You’re doing great work.
But color me unsurprised by this evening’s unfortunate turn of events.
For the fact is, token treehuggery and lip service to social awareness aside, liberal rich folks aren’t poles apart from their wingnut counterparts at all…They’re scared, above everything else, to lose money, access, and thus power in a game which increasingly is tilted so that those values are all that matter. And their money shields them from reality…Because as bad as it may get, how bad is it really going to get for them?
Of course, we know the answer…That their wealth won’t shield them from what is to come…But it’s easier to entertain fanciful delusions when the fridge is full and the car is paid for.
I think it is far more likely to see action from grass roots fundraising, a lot of people paying a little and building a groundswell as opposed to getting big bucks from wealthy liberals who are still parked in the 1990’s…All they have to lose is a portion of their pocketbook, while those less fortunate have life, limb, and a lifetime of self-respect on the line.
Jennix,
I always learn in large chunks when you post here. I think you’re kewl and high-energy, someone with a passion for what they do. I sense annoyance when you brush up against those who don’t share your zest and vision. Obstacles can do that.
I have ran into that in my former life of advertising. You want different? I once sold cars by the pound–yeah, like ground chuck or something. Is there anything in this post, that I have missed, that we can aide you in your Quixotic errantry in defending and promoting the blogosphere.
P.S. A guy made the mistake of telling me advertising didn’t work. I put his phone number in a tiny classified ad that read:
I buy kittens, $5 each BR-549
I can’t help but notice that Chris Wallace has the same initials as Conventional Wisdom. Coincidence? I think not.
Sorry, wrong thread. Jennifer, I share your frustration; these people need the same kick in the patootie that Kos gave to that donkey in the commercial. I hope they wake up soon.
Twisted Martini @ 64
Oh, I’m in EPU land, but hopefully you see this anyway. What a pair our dogs would make. This is hysterically funny to me.
Thanks.
I followed that. A fucking H U G E roster of sponsors. I have always wondered why we don’t have similar things on the left. Go Jen, again if there is anything I can do to help, let me know. I’m sorta bizzy but this is important.
With that…G’nite
You are clearly my people. My whippets are named Strider and Baranduin.
But apart from that, I feel Jennifer’s pain. Why, after all this time, are we still at the “First they laugh at you” stage with our own funding apparatus? At least you got a meeting with them…
We’re on our own, kids. And we need change fast.
I sometimes feel like I’m in one of those cartoons where the locomotive is speeding along, and we’re up in the front of it, throwing rails out to form tracks just before us…
AZ Matt @ 62
Matt, when I re-up with a candidate that Howie turned me on to, I do it through BlueAmerica. I figure the candidate may not notice if I send a check back in the mail, and I want my candidates to know all my money comes to them due to Howie’s effort here.
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>Please. I AM SO TIRED of hearing self-hating >Democrats/progressives complaining that we have >no ideas and that we stand for nothing.
Finally!!! Someone who isn’t buying the Republican Psyops. It is time for Democrats to tell KarlRove to piss up a rope, to stop whining about the Republcians being soooo mean, and especially to stop parotting this utter crap about Democrats not standing for anything.
Principled stands do not mean commiting electoral suicide or falling into traps laid for our side.
>We are so screwed.
The ONLY thing that matters is voting for anyone who has a ‘D’ for party affiliation. Stop moaning and make it crystal clear that you are voting Democrat, that anyone you know will be enouraged to do the same, and the GW & his boys can straight to f***ing Hell.
End of story.
We have a president who is losing Afghanistan and destorying the military. Screw the Guantanamo prisoners issue, talk about that for the next four weeks. You want to bring some justice, win back the frigging Congress.
Otherwise STFU.
Jennifer — very sorry not to catch this earlier, now deep in the EPU zone. As the Big Dog was so good at saying, I feel your pain. We’re making the rounds right now asking the big money to pony up RIGHT NOW because we need to make media/marketing buys inside the next two weeks. And the kind of stuff you’re talking about, too, targeted cable ads and focused bulk mail.
You know what I think works with some of these folks? Treat it like a business proposition, work the numbers. We’ve got a person on our crew with deep background in PoliSci who can cite backwards and forwards all the numbers about any given precinct in our county; given enough time (and money to buy the marketing data), he’d probably be able to tell the money people how they can not only get any Dem on a particular street to vote, but how to sell products/services to them, too. We’ve got a person on our team who is a marketing professional, who can build the approach and media strategy; we have a database cruncher as well who also works the numbers, and I’m not too shabby at putting together infrastructure and other support resources. I think we could sell just about anybody with the team we’ve got assembled (and after the election, we may just start a business using what we’ve learned, make money on our own to fund next election’s program). Maybe that’s what you need, a bigger team to help with the sale (like somebody who can whip out a copy of the Pew Internet & American Life report that shows the growth of the internet and the blogosphere isn’t across the “unelectability factor” but across key demographics with substantive education and disposable income, etc.).
I get the impression that tonight wasn’t really the sales pitch but the opening of the door; perhaps the sales pitch comes next. You are now armed with knowledge about their expectations, can prepare a package that will specifically address their personal issues. Can you assemble a “hit team” to crunch some numbers and put together some materials for another presentation? Do you now have entre to work on any one of these 3 nay-sayers? Maybe that’s another tack, too; were these folks all in the same venue together at the same time, feeding on each others’ negative energy? Could you divide them and conquer them?
And as for the fine old whine about “Democrats and progressives just don’t stand for anything”…f*ck that. I’ve been sitting here meditating on that issue this evening, and it comes down to one simple thing: we stand for good against evil. Period.
And evil actively conspires to drown out our message, made easier when good people fail to take action to fight back.
Where are the Dems on torture, they whine? We are screaming out against it at the top of our lungs, but no one hears us — unless the corporate-owned and evil-manipulated media can find a way to use it against us, a la “Dean Scream”.
And what are the money people doing about it? Are they trying to find subversive ways to get around this, are they connecting with people who already do? or are they failing to take real and effective action?
I think that’s part of the pitch, pushing back. White papers and television ads didn’t change the course of the Vietnam war, activists did by enabling the truth to breach through to the rest of the public. We can do it again, but the money people need to ask themselves whose side they’re on — on the side of the activists that will enable the truth, or the status quo.
I have a suspicion that I’m going to be the closer on the financial tag team this week…best of luck to you, Jennifer. It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings, and I don’t even feel like humming right now.
LindyH @
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I want the definition for this one: omphaloskeptical fer sure. I love these!!!!!
Twisted Martini @
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TM, you rock. I need a friend like you.
I wonder if some of the reluctance to fund comes from feeling the money coming out of their own pockets, plus a lack of faith that it’ll be enough to win and what we do will work, plus, and this may be most important, the idea that they’re paying for ideals, and dammit, why should they have to pay to persuade people what they should already be thinking, and isn’t that the kind of selling out that Republicans do? (/sarcasm)
That might explain the incongruity of people who are liberal and have money not actually putting their money where their mouths are.
Chris — that’s possible, but that’s where we need to talk about investment. Those of us tasked with asking for the money must be able to frame the expenditures in terms of investments in community, from those items that build a shared sense of community to those items that actually become the infrastructure. Without that kind of investment, we will not have the community necessary to fight back against the opposition.
Frankly, it’s the very same thing the right-wing did for the last 3 decades, investing in think-tanks, investing in church leadership that acted as focal points, investing in media. We are asking our donors to do the same thing — but invest in a next-gen cultural model, the likes of which support highly successful business (i.e., internet-mediated activism as compared to internet-mediated business transactions).
What I think some of the money people want are assurances before they pony up cash; we can’t offer but one guarantee, that without investments we can surely expect more of the crap we’ve had for 5 years.
Jen,
I work in computer software, not nonprofits, but your experience reminds me of the heady days of the dot-com and Linux boom, just a few years ago. A lot.
I’m something of a mover and shaker in the open source software world (which actually is like nonprofits, at least in some ways). Back then, I had some pretty good ideas about how to make graphics and printing work better, and, since it seemed like billions of dollars of VC money were sloshing around, I started nosing after funding. I came away from that experience just as disillusioned and frustrated as you are now. I could tell stories that sound quite similar to yours, of coming forward with a specific proposal that would solve a huge raft of problems, asking only a bit more than the equivalent of a competitive wage, only to find a complete lack of interest.
Of course, most of those supposed billions were a financial mirage, part of a very sophisticated stock swindling operation. The main lesson I took away is to consider funding sources by their track record, not by their rhetoric. Think sclerotic, hidebound established funding sources are likely to support dynamic new ideas? Don’t hold your breath.
These days, my main funding source for my open-source contributions is what’s known as a “day job.” In fact, I’m proud to say that my employer is one of the very few that has successfully hybridized the open source model with a profit-making business. Not surprisingly, that success started well before the dot-com boom era.
I’m nowhe