
Every time Dan Gerstein has a meltdown, an angel gets its wings. Or something. I can’t help but see these things as a gift from God to me. Just when I was starting to get a little desperate for something to write about tonight, my cell phone rang with the raucous sounds of jungle birds, which is my ring-tone for Jane.
"I’ve got a surprise for you, TRex!" she said.
"What’s that?"
"Well, you saw Kenneth Cain’s article in GQ, right?"
"What, the one that laid out all of Lieberman’s underhanded intimidation tactics leading up to the primary?" I replied, "I read it last night."
"Well, the Lieberman campaign wasn’t very happy about it, so they got DAN GERSTEIN to write a press release!"
I clapped my hands together with glee! These are always so entertaining. Sending DANGERSTEIN out to do spin control for your campaign is a lot like trying to change a diaper with a molotov cocktail. It doesn’t do anything about the shit, and now everything’s on fire! Yay, Dan Gerstein! Heckuva job! Mission accomplished!
"Send it! Send it RIGHT NOW!" I pleaded.
"You’re gonna love it," she said, and oh, lord, she wasn’t lying. What does the Lieberman campaign do, freak out about something and hand Gerstein a bottle of Adderall, a fifth of vodka and a typewriter? Seriously, this is NOT the man you want handling perception management. He comes off as being about as concise, stable, and reasonable as a border collie on crystal meth! The press release says it’s from Tammy Sun, but anyone who knows Gerstein’s foam-flecked, wild-eyed writing style will know whose authorial fingerprints are all over this screed. No mistake about it.
Oh, where to begin? Well, first, go read Cain’s article, "Kiss of Death", then meet me back here.
Right. Finished? Great. So, DANGERSTEIN has entitled his press release, "Harry Potter Reports from the Campaign Trail: FANTASY vs. REALITY".
"Harry Potter"? Oh, whatever, this ought to be good.
He has divided everything into two categories, "GQ FANTASY" and "REALITY", although it appears that the word "reality" has an altogether new meaning in this context, i.e., "GERSTEIN FANTASY".
To wit:
GQ FANTASY: Cain claims that Lieberman was inaccessible to him and other members of the media.
REALITY: As Cain himself admits, he traveled in close proximity with Lieberman on the Tomorrow Tour bus. Cain also admits: "For weeks, I’ve been postponing the questions I’m dying to ask…" In fact, during the last ten days of the primary (the time period when Cain was traveling with Lieberman in Connecticut) Cain had at least two sit-down interviews with the Lieberman. In addition, Cain had multiple opportunities to ask Lieberman questions during press avails conducted at every campaign stop, sometimes as many as nine in a single day.
Not a day passed (except the Sabbath) when Joe Lieberman was not accessible to reporters at public events. Unless Cain wanted to crawl into Joe Lieberman’s lap, which is possible, his staffers made every effort to accommodate his multiple requests for time.
Um, "crawl into Joe Lieberman’s lap"? Ew! Now, see? This is Reason No. 1 why Gerstein should never talk to reporters. All he had to do was outline Joe’s availability to the media, but instead he had to bring us that creeptastic mental image. *SHUDDER!* ("I don’t like this bedtime story, Grandpa!") And whatever point he was trying to make is completely lost in the upwelling of squickyness that follows.
But in this way, he is like the Lieberman campaign’s own Jeff Goldstein. No matter how good his intentions are when he comes to the table, he can’t help but throw a dead cat into your lap before it’s over. It’s like he’s trying to make a point and you’re with him, okay, but then some weird gassy bubble of deeply disturbed homoerotic longing rises from his mental sludge and bursts and everybody has no choice but to run for cover or get hit by the splatter.
At least this time he managed not to say that Holy Joe beats his wife.
Then we’re into paragraph two, but Dannyboy’s already all worked up. You can almost see the spittle starting to fly:
GQ FANTASY: Cain claims that GQ Magazine is not part of the "mainstream media" while accusing the "mainstream media" of bias in its coverage of Iraq.
REALITY: GQ Magazine is a popular, glossy fashion magazine based out of New York, with a circulation of 854,155 and ad buys from Calvin Klein, Sony, Gap and other mainstream labels. The magazine includes coverage of mainstream pop culture icons such as Tom Cruise, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, and Ashton Kutcher. We wonder how their advertisers would feel about the magazine taking itself out of the "mainstream."
And in the last year, it’s also had hard-hitting features on Ralph Reed, Russ Feingold, and Colin Powell. But remember, who needs truth when you’re Dan Gerstein? Why stand on fact when you can be dismissive and condescending? But we get the point. GQ Magazine is just a step removed from People, nobody reads it and no one takes it seriously. WHICH IS WHY YOU WROTE AN 1100 WORD PRESS RELEASE RESPONDING TO IT.
GQ FANTASY: Based on nothing more than his admitted attempt "to crawl inside Joe Lieberman’s head," Cain speculates wildly and baselessly about Lieberman’s personal thoughts and personality traits.
"In my opinion, there’s a major psychodrama playing out in Joe’s head about Iraq…It’s like his conscience starts to get just a bit ahead of his pride, and then the hubris races to catch up and tackles the concession midsentance…That he refuses to pay them [voters] that respect infuriates people. He may just lose his career over the simple human inability to concede a possible mistake."
REALITY: If Cain possesses the gift of identifying altercations between the id, ego, and superego inside the mind of Joe Lieberman, as well as reading his personal thoughts, we would like to offer him a job on our campaign.
See, Dan, that was actually the money quote from the whole piece. Remember what I told you before about not dragging unflattering information about your candidate out under the noses of a whole new audience by quoting it in a press release? Right, clearly you weren’t listening. And besides, ALL of us can see into Joe Lieberman’s head. It looks just like this.
And that’s as far as I can get. The rest devolves into a vurrrrry tedious he said/she said deal, which is really what the Lieberman campaign is best at. But that doesn’t mean I have to read it! I can’t imagine what the busy reporters at the New York Times and other news organizations felt when they got this piece of crap press release. It reads like an eleven year old having a tantrum about today’s school assembly.
Poor Dan. I see you also couldn’t quite make yourself go a whole page without mentioning Jane’s name. I’m really sorry about your obsession with her. I know seeing her looking all gorgeous and brilliant on Countdown last night can’t have helped that, either.
Don’t despair, little DANGERSTEIN. This will all be over on November 8th and Joe will doubtlessly sack you like he does everyone else who can’t convince the voting public that Joe Lieberman is anything other than, well, Joe Lieberman. Hopefully, there will be a wealth of job opportunities for the reality impaired after this election season. Maybe you can get work trying to convince the world that Pete Doherty isn’t on drugs, or that Madonna really is an English Jew, or that Jack Abramoff is an honest man who has only ever had the best interests of the American people at heart.
But in the meantime, I can’t wait for your next thrilling press release!
Try and get some rest, okay?
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TRex!!!!! Bang A Gong!!!
Maybe Dangerstein will have an October surprise.
or should that be Bang a Goon
OMG. Masterpiece.
I owe all of my inspiration to you, Lady Jane.
Snickersnickersnicker guffawguffaw.
Trex … I have this vision of Dangerstein dashing off his press release, sending it out, all selfsatisfied, another hatchet job done – and then suddenly … the cartoon baloon pops up with the words “oh no! I forgot about that Trex! He’s gonna see this and I am gonna be soooo trexed!”
Spine-check time for the Democrats:
Who will stand up for civilization?
Siun @ 7
Oh, Xtina, the sad thing is, I don’t think he’s even that self aware. He’s convinced that this time he’s showed those Lamonsters ONCE and FOR ALL!!
Sad, really.
No, not the monkey washing the cat!
Laughing lots over here.
well golly gee Trex … Dangerstein’s brilliant logic sure made a big impression on me and I’ll never believe that GQ Ken guy again!
hehe
But what if the Sunster really did write it?
Do you think she has a thing for DANGERous men?
where is christy today?
Christy will be back tomorrow. The Peanut has been sick.
damn that was funny. I was right there with you until what’s-his-name started throwing dead cats… and that was fucked up.
Pachacutec @ 10
That was my favorite bit from the whole post. It always reminds me of Geri Blank.
that peanut sure is a handful! i thought the geneva convention was safe from the evil machinations of the chimp. isnt that what KO said on countdown? and that he thought the whole thing was engineered so shrub would look tough on terror?
I could tell when I saw the unobtrusive link, knowing how
my idyour mind works, that this was the money shot.TRex, you da man, er, da theropod.
ROTFL!!! Oh man, that was where I lost it. You rock, baby. I really needed that today.
Thanks for the Cheney sign ideas, firedogs. I’m going with these 3, and I’m undecided as to the 4th.
“They call him Dick for a reason.”
“Five deferments = “Staying the course”?”
“Cheney’s got a gun. DUCK, Randy!”
(Randy is the guy Dick is raising funds for.)
Wait…Joe Lieberman has a superego?
(Rolls to disbelieve)
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
psst– Ellsberg on Colbert.
Hiya TRex!
I don’t get it. Why are you attacking Lieberman when your hero Big Dork– uh, Big Dog, had this to say on Larry King tonight:
I don’t have the same view of this as some people do. My view is Connecticut is an unmitigated blessing for the Democrats because Lieberman has said if he wins he’s going to vote with us to organize the Senate.
Don’t you get it? It’s win-win situation, like NAFTA!
I can’t go to bed until I get my nightly TRex fix. How do you think this shit up on such short notice?
Cleanup on aisle 24.
Lord love a duck! The chimp and Joe, er, I mean cat. Yes, cat, that’s it. Kind of kinky if you ask me, sort of Santorum kind of thing. Oh, I forgot, he likes dogs.
Okay, y’all, heading home. Back in a bit.
It’s nookular! Nice job. The second reference to a Jimmy Stewart movie tonight.
It can be a wonderful life!
I love dangerstein too! He is so much fun. Almost like a parody. The humor gods have been so generous with him.
Thanks for that link, nsr. I’m circulating it.
UptownNYChick @ 30
If by “generous” you mean “whacked him over the head with a two-by-four,” I agree.
angie @ 29
Meltdown, hmmm… Kind reminds me of the Wicked Witch in the Wizard of Oz and the bucket of water. She sort melts awaaaay.
Those, sir, are truly immortal words.
EvilDrPuma @ 32
i should clarify, generous to us by allowing him to be so not self aware and giving little pearls of laughter so often.
has anyone here mentioned that joe-nertia is going to be placed 5th, at best, on every ballot in november?
.
.
skippy @ 36
As often as possible. :D
Did the press release also say
DANGERSTEIN FANTASY: Joe never called Al Sharpton.
REALITY: Dangerstein lied.
It seems as if the Lieberman campaign is on damage control; but while they try to stuff the leak in the front, TRex is blasting a hole in the rear.
Matt Browner-Hamlin @ 34
I am beginning to think that Dangerstain and Wadddhams learnt at the sorry, lame knees of Rove and they cannot recant. This is nuts.
Poor Dan. I see you also couldn’t quite make yourself go a whole page without mentioning Jane’s name. I’m really sorry about your obsession with her..
What did he say about Jane?
Can someone please remind me why Lieberman hired this guy?
Suzanne @ 41
(Turning press release in his hands; squinting)
It’s kind of hard to make out. Just how acidic is that guy’s saliva, anyway?
gtfu @ 42
To make himself look better. Ironic, yes?
Pachacutec @ 10
Okay – my eyes weren’t deceiving me. WTF?
But very funny
gtfu @ 42
He needed a true believer in the religion of Joe.
gtfu @ 42
Because he does things like refer to The Lieberman in his press releases?
It all adds up to a kind of creepy old-men-pretending-to-be-beatniks kind of atmosphere, doesn’t it?
Trex — I think you should either stop giving Gerstein lessons or start charging for them so we can fund Marcy’s book, but this free advice thing needs to stop.
So now there are four readily accessible places where the rest of the media can read the following:
1. The original article, which was hard to print out, one page at a time. Most people might not have taken the trouble.
2. On fdl last night, then spotlighted.
3. On fdl tonight, and spotlighted again
4. Best for last: An official press release from Joe Lieberman’s campaign, that the Senator’s own campaign will ensure is distributed to all media in Connecticut.
Astonishing.
EvilDrPuma @ 44
perhaps Joe succeeded – compared to Dan, he does look better…
gtfu @ 42
He’s an old Lieberman hand. Used to be in his senate/presidential campaign office, then was a mouthpiece from his consulting business before officially joining the campaign. Dangerstein blogged under that name (that’s right folks, we didn’t give it to him) briefly before his coblogger decided Joe wasn’t worth the Democratic nomination.
I think hiring Gerstein after the primary loss is filed firmly under “It Seemed Like A Good Idea at the Time.” Steinfels was beyond miserable and Gerstein was supposed to bring seriousness to the Lieberman press operation. Obviously he failed.
Man, you should have told me we were doing GQ tonight…I would have brought Joe’s mankini out of pre-Labor day storage.
;>)
UptownNYChick @ 46
Now that is the truth.
Can’t get the press release right now because my mail is down but it said Markos and I were divisive.
Divisive?
How?
hmm…wordpress shows “edit this comment” with Jane’s post @ 52
..I wouldn’t dare! :)
but thought mods may want to know of glitch…
Jane Hamsher @ 52
I guess if you and Markos are dividing him from the voters by getting them to smell the free-trade organic coffee, ya that could be divisive
Jane Hamsher @ 52
So, short Gerstein: Jane prefers Lamont.
Jane Hamsher @ 52
Actually, Joe probably had a lot of trouble getting people to work for him. I only spent a few days in conn. this summer, but there was a definite difference in energy levels between the two campaigns. People were falling over themselves to help Lamont.
Since DANGERSTEIN has opened the gate between the CT Senate race and Harry Potter I think it would be fun to do a some casting…Would Lieberman be the incompetent servant or the Dark Lord or would he be the incompetent Prime Minister who refuses to listen to the truth in order to save his reputation and ultimately ends up losing his job because he refused to acknowledge the truth?
Jane Hamsher @
52
I think that was a garbled way of saying that you and Markos know math.
What does Dangerstein use for birth control? His personality?
Oilfieldguy @ 60
that and his shoulder pads ;)
Oilfieldguy @ 60
Ouch!
I just spit tea on my keyboard. lol
Why is Lamont debating Lieberman? Why not (R) only?
D. vs. R. Or, if Lieberman is a must, then add the real Independent, the Green, and….. Lieberman shouldn’t get all the attention he craves.
I never got into Harry Potter. I did a deal about the fellowship of the hoblogits here a while back. Lotsa fun.
UptownNYChick @ 62
Spew alert!
He cries during sex. Mace has that affect.
ecb @ 58
He reminds me of the rat, Peter. They guy who betrayed Harry’s parents to Voldemort.
mrobinsong @ 63
Because Lamont is right and Lamont is fearless and Lamont is real.
It’s ok. Only the backwash will be rooting for JoeLie.
UptownNYChick @
66
Lieberman is Professor Quirrell.
UptownNYChick @ 66
All in all I would have to say he is a mixture of the two.
I like making fun of Dangerstein. I’m not as good at it as TRex, but it’s still fun.
What about Snape…the guy who pretends he is on our side for years only to reveal that he actually works for Voldemort.
CT Bob could be Hagrid!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubeus_Hagrid
ecb @ 71
As much as I despised Snape, he had a backbone.
And I am not yet convinced Snape turned….
I’m beginning to wonder, why such blatant incompetence?
It’s almost like they know it doesn’t matter…Unless this truly is rule by a type of subnormal fiat.
IMO, the world needs to be very watchful for any tricks that may be played.
Is the “sit on Joe’s lap” reference simply from a homophobic ingredient in Dan Gerstein’s brain-stew, or are they just really putting into practice every Rovian tactic they can?
“It’s very much a sunrise.”
- DANGERSTEIN
From the press release:
REALITY: The race-baiting charge is completely unsubstantiated and shows that Cain substituted blog-reading for real reporting.
The fact is, the Lieberman campaign did nothing more than point out the array of extreme and divisive figures that were embraced by the Lamont campaign and advocated on their behalf. In addition to Jackson, Sharpton, and Maxine Waters, our campaign also frequently highlighted Lamont’s affiliation with bloggers Markos Moulitsas and Jane Hamsher, Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur, and Lamont campaign manager Tom Swan—none of whom is African-American.
I love Alan Rickman aka Severus Snape!
g’nite friends.
darkblack @ 74
I don’t have ANY political background, but a junkie for reading about campaigns. IMHO They always seem to point out that the candidate hardest to work for is the guy that cannot be real about himself, can’t hear his negative. Competent pol operatives would steer away from Joe,
TRex @ 77
If you go back to that old saw..known by the company you keep… then Joe has very poor taste.
From the Dangerstein Dictionary
Yankee:
Quickee self-service.
I got sent home from catholic school when I was in third grade because I could not understand why there were only female nuns and male priests. I just kept asking why, got sent to the principals, kept asking and got paddled and sent home with a note saying I was disruptive and divisive.
I am so tired of people with opinions being dismissed as divisive.
UptownNYChick @
82
amen.
op99 @ 21
Hey Dick: Beers and Shotguns Don’t Mix.
UptownNYChick @ 82
I hope you have that note framed and hung where everyone can see it. I’m retroactively proud of you Uptown!
Ah, TRex…when the annals of FDL are compiled, some years from now, this will be one of the classic Late Night metaphors chronicled there, I predict.
Dick: Friends Don’t Shoot Friends In The Face!
You know, I love this website. The people who write, the people who comment.
But after the Clinton/Laura Bush event, the likes of Schumer, Reid, etc. and the GOP 3 making their sneaky move to go ahead and allow tortue.
Roberts blocking investigations, I could go one..
I understand minority party, and I understand things could change in November, but Goddamn it, now it is time to attack.
No kid gloves, no silence, bring it home!
And get out there on October 5th with the World Can’t Wait! I’m sick of waiting on Democrats in Washington to figure out which way the wind is blowing.
And by “hedging their bets” with Lieberman the leadership of the DNC has exposed their inability to lead. There should be a relentless movement here with zero compromise!
I have to recommend this.
Anyways, done with the rant.
Still love it here, can’t wait to be done with the nuances of CT.
No offense, CT!
UptownNYChick @ 73
Me neither.
Wyo Nate @ 88
I feel the same way. I’m pondering the situation. I want to confer with some people, too, on how to proceed.
Can someone get this NYT editorial?:
It’s behind the firewall…
That of course was a shot in their own foot. The more they critisized Jessie, Al and Maxine, the more the Lamont campaign picked up those critical African-American votes.
LindyH @ 91
Lieberman did turn and there ain’t no backbone there!
angie @ 95
That is true…but the jury is still out on snape *grin*.
DANGERSTEIN???
hehehehehehe……. Penfold, hush.
Now I have that wonderful DangerMouse themesong rattling around my head, thanks to you….
Wyo Nate @
88
It is all sooooo incestuous, viz Big Dog hanging with Poppy and Babs, Skull and Bones, the Saudis.
Sigh.
I was pleased that my friends went to lunch with President Clinton, but that doesn’t mean I will vote for his wife.
TRex @ 85
Damn, that would have been helpful when I brought dates home!!! ;-)
justadood @ 97
Oh, crumbs.
kemo @ 93
Here tis:
“Editorial
A Bad Bargain
Published: September 22, 2006
Here is a way to measure how seriously President Bush was willing to compromise on the military tribunals bill: Less than an hour after an agreement was announced yesterday with three leading Republican senators, the White House was already laying a path to wiggle out of its one real concession.
About the only thing that Senators John Warner, John McCain and Lindsey Graham had to show for their defiance was Mr. Bush’s agreement to drop his insistence on allowing prosecutors of suspected terrorists to introduce classified evidence kept secret from the defendant. The White House agreed to abide by the rules of courts-martial, which bar secret evidence. (Although the administration’s supporters continually claim this means giving classified information to terrorists, the rules actually provide for reviewing, editing and summarizing classified material. Evidence that cannot be safely declassified cannot be introduced.)
This is a critical point. As Senator Graham keeps noting, the United States would never stand for any other country’s convicting an American citizen with undisclosed, secret evidence. So it seemed like a significant concession — until Stephen Hadley, the national security adviser, briefed reporters yesterday evening. He said that while the White House wants to honor this deal, the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Duncan Hunter, still wants to permit secret evidence and should certainly have his say. To accept this spin requires believing that Mr. Hunter, who railroaded Mr. Bush’s original bill through his committee, is going to take any action not blessed by the White House.
On other issues, the three rebel senators achieved only modest improvements on the White House’s original positions. They wanted to bar evidence obtained through coercion. Now, they have agreed to allow it if a judge finds it reliable (which coerced evidence hardly can be) and relevant to guilt or innocence. The way coercion is measured in the bill, even those protections would not apply to the prisoners at Guantnamo Bay.
The deal does next to nothing to stop the president from reinterpreting the Geneva Conventions. While the White House agreed to a list of “grave breaches” of the conventions that could be prosecuted as war crimes, it stipulated that the president could decide on his own what actions might be a lesser breach of the Geneva Conventions and what interrogation techniques he considered permissible. It’s not clear how much the public will ultimately learn about those decisions. They will be contained in an executive order that is supposed to be made public, but Mr. Hadley reiterated that specific interrogation techniques will remain secret.
Even before the compromises began to emerge, the overall bill prepared by the three senators had fatal flaws. It allows the president to declare any foreigner, anywhere, an “illegal enemy combatant” using a dangerously broad definition, and detain him without any trial. It not only fails to deal with the fact that many of the Guantnamo detainees are not terrorists and will never be charged, but it also chokes off any judicial review.
The Democrats have largely stood silent and allowed the trio of Republicans to do the lifting. It’s time for them to either try to fix this bill or delay it until after the election. The American people expect their leaders to clean up this mess without endangering U.S. troops, eviscerating American standards of justice, or further harming the nation’s severely damaged reputation.”
LindyH @ 96
To be honest I don’t think he has turned myself, but for now it makes a decent comparison. Snape said for years he was with Dumbledore, but was constantly picking on Harry and refusing to work with Sirius even though they were on the same side. But to me the most important difference is that with Snape no matter how much you hate him, you have to love him (because of that backbone I suppose).
LindyH– Snape is much more honorable than Joe has been or ever will be.
*that says a lot, considering that Snape is not a US Senator but is a fictional character. I have hope with Snape. No hope left for Joe– he was my Senator for 15 years and he only delivered platitudes.
My favorite part is where Dangerstein seems to admit that they are activly looking for a shrink for HOJO, & it sounds like the entire office. I can’t think of a better way to spend a big chunk of HoJo’s republican funds!
You guys, I hate to be self congratulatory, but I am so excited about the monkey washing the cat. It cracks me up all over again every time I see it.
Speaking monkey washing, foudnthis on HuffPo, an AP story –
A prominent Republican who chairs I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby’s legal defense fund co-hosted a fundraiser Wednesday for Sen. Joe Lieberman, who is running for re-election as an independent after losing the Democratic primary.
AZ Matt @ 106
HOW can anyone call themselves a Democrat and vote for him?! HOW??!!
AZ Matt @ 106
that’s just perfect
Wrt the military tribunals bill, as far as I can tell, twas strictly Repug theater meant to again sell “up equals down” to the electorate, and to push the Josh Bolton-modified Karl Rove strategy of a softer, kinder, and yes, gentler Repug party.
A Repug congress that did the “right thing” in standing up for what’s “right”. Why even standing up against their own President.
Of course, none of it is true, but that is always besides the Repug point.
Twas nothing but PR effort aimed at again creating their own reality.
If you just wish upon a star (of Texas), your dreams
Rapturewill come true.And based upon the most recent JAR numbers for Junya, Karl “Kabuki” Rove’s October surprise, the big bucks advantage the RNC has planned for spending in October, I’m getting kinda worried that enough of the electorate is going to, and wants to, be fooled again.
TRex @ 107
If you can figure that out then every politician in the country would want to hire you. But somethings are meant to unknown. Only God knows and She ain’t saying.
Thank you Mad Dogs.
Simply appalling. Bush gets his torture, and I assume he gets immunity for the “professionals”, including himself, for Geneva Convention violations.
As I understand it, the Repugs revoted after several Dems left the chamber.
What the fuck have we become?
Trex, if you think that part of the AP story was bad…
Lieberman will need Republican and independent votes to prevail in November. One of his television ads shows him erasing a line between the words “Democrat” and “Republican” on a chalkboard.
Baarrrfffff!!!
TRex @ 105
And just what is the punishment for a bad monkey? LOL!
They have raped and murdered our electoral system and are dancing on its corpse as they thumb their noses at us suckers and enjoy the media slave lips on their cocks.
Sorry for the imagery but there it is. It really is this horrible and awful. Maybe that’s why I was with a cop for three years, to learn guns. Maybe that will be what it takes to establish real elections again.
kemo @ 111
We Be Fucked.
scarecrow @184 belowthread – I’ll have to go look again, but I believe that Glenn and McJoan said that Reid made his promise on the wiretap legislation, not the pro-torture legislation.
I’m with Digby – if they don’t do something on this – they aren’t worthy of a vote this fall. OTOH, I think anyone and everyone who can call should call, whether they have a Congress person who is a shot at changing their mind or not. Over and over the articles last year kept saying that Congress was not hearing anything from their constuents on this matter.
Night all – I’m hitting the advil and alcohol tonight. Even though I knew it was coming and that they would work it the way they did, it is still a shock to see Congress co-opted to the public embrace of crime and torture of innocents and people they have bought off a bounty hunter.
You understand these things in govts where people have no power, but you get a little shocked at them in govts where people just choose evil.
if this is [dangerstein]’s version of rapid response war-room campaigning, all i can say is
more please
faster.
Friends, here is the more definitive version of what I was earlier ranting about, namely the Senate caving in to Bush’s efforts to legalize war crimes: http://balkin.blogspot.com/#115887916447131403
just jumping in for a quick hit and run… the repugs torture kabuki this afternoon… I’m thinking this story may not be over yet… pugs were dangling this issue out there like a big fat worm on a hook for the dems to snag (”weak! weak on terrists, I say!”) and the dems were rather caught between the devil and the deep blue sea…
but the military hasn’t spoken yet on the “compromise”. I think Powell is very serious, as are the rest of the military honchos… hopefully, if the new bill is as bad as it sounds, they will speak up loud and clear…
TRex-y! you so funny!
Mary @ 116
Banana republics got nothin’ on us now. We is them.
TeddySanFran @ 117
Shill! Shill!
newspaperbrat @ 115
So, two things are possible:
1. BushCO was genuinely scared shitless that they would be caught as war criminals, and forced this through before a possible House takeover by the Dems, or
2. This is all theater, staged by Rove, to force Dems to vote against this bill, in order to call them weak on terror in November…
(I used to think number 1….)
Ah, Mr. TRex,
Not only do you have a mighty roar, your chuckle ain’t half bad either.
Cub Reporter checking in from the John Dean ACLU Townhall on the NSA spying & FISA violations.
Now I have an autographed “Conserative without a Conscience” with the following message—
P.S. What a delight to visit Firedoglake!
Mr Dean said he saw Jane on KO last night and thought she did great. He said that he was told by Glenn Greenwald that he could hang out at FDL for the book discussion for an hour or so but he found the questions so facinating and the discussion so stimulating that he ended up spending hours reading and answering.
He was thrilled to meet someone hangs out at the lake. I told him that I would be reporting back and said to say HI to everyone.
omg katymine that is so kewl.
you represent, ma’m!
Sharkbabe @ 114
And are planning to do it once again. No, not once again, but for evermore!
When Tom Delay and his band of raving lunatics state publicly and proudly, that they “intend to destroy the Democratic Party”, nobody takes a whole lot of notice ’cause the Bugman is kinda known for wild, fiery, crazy-ass statements.
But when the more “statesman-like” Bill Frist (by Delay standards) says the very same thing in an unguarded public moment, there really ought to be alarm bells ringing in every Democrat’s head!
Folks, this is something you need to take with deadly seriousness!
The Repugs are not kidding, and they will indeed say and do almost anything to retain power.
My tinfoil hat size is…*g*
katymine-
It seems as if the Arizona Repubilcan can’t get facts straight
- In defending Sen. George Allen against a new television advertisement criticizing his 2003 vote on a Democratic amendment that would have increased National Guard funding for body armor, The Arizona Republic falsely suggested — and the website FactCheck.org falsely asserted — that Allen and his Republican colleagues have never voted against supplemental funding for body armor.
That is fresh off of Kos. Media Matters is taking them to task.
I am really despairing tonight over the torture punking…
I’m working very hard to find some hope…
Wigwam @ 118
I do like the title of that post:
“Senators Snatch Defeat From Jaws of Victory: U.S. to be First Nation to Authorize Violations of Geneva”
Ladies and gentlemen, I have an announcement to make. UptownNYChick’s comment at 9:35pm PDT was comment number 300,000 for 2006.
Balloons!
Streamers!
HOORAY!!
Well, this is GREAT economic news! For the first time, all 400 people on Forbes list of America’s richest are BILLIONAIRES.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01310.html
New RFK, Jr. Rolling Stone article is up – Will The Next Election Be Hacked?
OldCoastie @ 128
Don’t be jumpin’ overboard jest yet, matey! *g*
Though I’ve been pretty negative myself here tonite, we have only just begun to fight, and I for one, have no intention of bowing before tyranny. Not now, not ever!
If my elected Democratic reps ain’t going to fight, they’re only the troops on the frontline and the folks behind the line ain’t gonna be so “diplomatic” shall we say.
John Dean said to beware of the end of THIS congress, he said it was the “witching hour”.
Mr Dean & Carolyn (ACLU Lobbyist in DC) said that this agreed bill by McCain et al is just as bad. It removes the right of habeas corpus for non-Americans and allows evidence from torture to be used against them. It is Not much better and they were both very disturbed.
Dean on Cheney
billmon has a very interesting post up on how Cheney is about to get punked by Iran
in a nutshell, Iran knows it is about to get bombed, but will use that to their advantage to further their nuclear ambitions…
where the heck is Ghostman these days?
TRex @ 105
I agree – hysterical. But seriously, it took my brain a few seconds to figure out what I was looking at… Lieberman’s mind on drugs
g’ night, all…
tomorrow is Friday! Friday! Friday! (and this has been a long damn week)
Steve @
25
I meant to answer this ages ago.
Lots of coffee and the fear of public humiliation will take a blogger a long way.
Oh, man, TRex, that’s vintage-quality snark! If I wasn’t sitting in a heavy armchair, the molotov cocktail analogy would have been a true 707!
Say, I’ve got a nifty question that both Lamont and Alan Schlesinger could ask…”Mr. Lieberman, why are you taking money from Republicans?…specifically, the man who,”…chairs I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby’s legal defense fund…”?
What a delightful answer they might receive
;>)
angie @ 87
This will be my last sign (brevity = visibility), and thanks to everyone for the ideas. I’ll try to link some pics after the protest tomorrow afternoon.
God Help us but Rove is coming to Phoenix….
katymine @ 142
Ooh! Oooh! Sign idea!
BUSH’S BRAIN=AMERICA’S TUMOR!!
for signs, whether it’s Shrub or BigTime appearing, seems to me the media focuses on those with one word: IMPEACH
TRex @ 143
I love this…. will pass it on to the groups who are going to be there…. I will be working ;)
btw…. I have 4 pages of notes I took at the Townhall….. TRex…. want me to write something up?
OldCoastie @ 119
I agree. McCain & Graham look stupid and weak because they caved and got little if anything in return. Warner’s only comment was that it was a deal only when the President actually signed it (which I took as a heavy dose of cynicism).
And Schultz and Powell now have some skin in the game.
The spin on this – that it shows the President as strong, that this was a planned distraction, yada, yada, yada – smacks to me of the Luskin spin on Rove’s five appearances before the Grand Jury. I think Rove would have much preferred to have this breeze through Congress with a Republican rubber stamp, allowing the GOP to vilify Dems for obstructing and being weak on terrorism – seven weeks before the mid-term elections.
I want to see what the Dems do in the next few days and how this plays out before I throw in the towel.
katymine @ 145
Please do!
Three years on, Guantnamo detainee, 78, goes home
Hero’s welcome for ex-Mujahideen commander with failing eyesight and a walking frame
(There’s a photo)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afgh…..15,00.html
Another sign idea:
KARL ROVE LOVES HIS DEAD GAY DAD.
UptownNYChick @ 82
That’s a great story. You were disruptive to their tiny little minds, is all.
TRex @ 149
Can’t do that one here….. btw… did you know that Phoenix has a larger Gay community than SF?
TRex… have big deadline on my project and have to deliver Monday AM… may have to work over the weekend to get it done. As soon as I get that put to bed, I will write up the stuff for you.
katymine @ 151
Sweet.
OldCoastie @ 128
Well, it hasn’t passed yet. I don’t think the situation is as straightforward as those describing the “punked” scenario would have it. If it was just a setup to make the Dems look bad, we wouldn’t have spent a couple of weeks with an ever-increasing number of media outlets talking openly about torture.
So I suspect there may be some wrangling yet to happen on this which could avoid the Dems having to filibuster it or vote it down. There’s only a week left before the recess to pass this on the floor of both chambers in identical form or have a conference committee, which provides a lot of points for those who recognize the evil that it is to derail it.
And the GOP is playing against the clock here — they’re the ones in tough re-election fights, so they don’t want to delay the start of the recess at all.
(Can you tell I grew up in the DC area?)
katymine, perhaps there are more gays than in SF, but they certainly aren’t larger! bears rule!
redshift, i agree — Warner’s statement about getting the Preznit to sign it was definitely a shot across the bow of Duncan Hunter, whose House committee passed the White House bill while Democrats were outta the room. this bill ain’t gonna become a law like on schoolhouse rock — many a slip still to come.
UptownNYChick @ 82
A friend of mine claims to have been kicked out of the Brownies for insubordination. But she never told me the details.
TeddySanFran @ 154
That is true Teddy… that is true…
Redshift & OldCoastie…. Both Dean & ACLU Director said that we need to activate the DEMS to be on their toes and stop any the the radical stuff they are going to shove through this week. They both expressed their concerns about what they might try and pull off.
Need to dust off my eFax account and get to work!
OldCoastie @
128
You and me both. Doggies here like us who have served in the Armed Forces know full well what this might mean on patrols or other ops that go FUBAR – as they always do – in the future..
Fucking hilarious. The laugh made me tired enough to go to sleep, which is a blessing indeed.
You betray your bias, though, because you failed to note that when he repeated the money quote, DANGERstein at least had the sense to leave off the kicker, which was “interesting.” You could at least have given him credit for that.
On the other hand, maybe sense had nothing to do with it. Maybe he just forgot.
The provision that Dean had grave concerns about was this:
Yep…. IF this law passes…. he will truely be King George
By the way, here’s the “get out of jail free” card that Junya wanted in the military tribunal “its gonna be OK to torture folks” bill:
Courtesy of Marty Lederman at balkin.blogspot.com
“(2) RETROACTIVE APPLICABILITY. The amendments made by this
section, except as specified in paragraph 2441(d)(2)(E) of title 10,
United States Code, shall take effect as of November 26, 1997, as if
enacted immediately after the amendments made by section 583 of Public
Law 105-118 (as amended by section 4002 of Public Law 107-273).”
(Bolding is mine)
Junya and Darth think they won’t have to get measured for those orange jumpsuits they were worried about.
Their joy may be shortlived as I stated over at Emptywheel’s place earlier today:
“I’m still of the opinion that the Congressional attempt to legislate “retroactive immunity” for the past Cheney Admininstration criminal acts is unconstitutional and a non-starter.
Simply put, Congress does not have the constitutional power to “pardon” folks. That only resides with the Executive branch.
And I think the Supremes would take a dim view of the Executive branch trying to pardon itself for crimes like torture and murder.
And lastly, Junya can’t pardon himself, and since “He” is all he cares about, why bother. *g*”
Alright, torture and murder. Right, off to bed!
You kids be sweet. Sleep night.
Good night.
Nite Nite TRex… I am heading off to bed too…
Mad Dogs @
161
Why that particular date? does this have anything to do with all the lunches Bill Clinton has been having with George and Laura…?
Ed*ard Teller @ 164
Yeah, sure is a strange date.
Don’t know that anything was going on then with the Big Dawg, but perhaps it is an attempt by Junya to “appear” bipartisan.
Trying to hide the fact that it is Darth and Junya who desperately need this, so they push the date back to the Clinton years.
As usual, I’m jumping in late.
What’s the buzz, tell me what’s a’happening?
The date is prior to writing the PNAC Letter to Clinton… I did a google search on the date and quite a few DefenseLinks showed up in the search. Cant find anything specific, may go back to Findlaw.
Hey SteveAudio… I got to meet John Dean tonight!
SteveAudio @ 166
We don’t know how to love him
;>)
SteveAudio @
166
John McCain is exhuming the body of King John.
Sorry, my daughter(lesbian) tells me S.F. is first and the other S.F.(Santa Fe,N.M.)is second. Which is where we live. Are these facts available from the census? If not, I don’t care about their orientation. Just that they help run these fuckers out of office. The butt fucking McCain,Warner, and Corn pone are taking from Pres. Cheny and Commander Clueless is embarrassing. When o when will interity overcome ambition? Sorry, I don’t think I can take much more of the lies. As usual, I’m last to post. Thanks TRex
Ed*ard Teller @ 169
I once met a woman named Magna Carter.
I love the south.
katymine,
Did John Dean give a talk at his book signing? Anybody know when his next essay will most likely come out?
TRex @ 171
Honest to God?
darkblack: “snap!”
apropos of nothing, I’m engaging in an argument with a troll over at Exra Klein’s place.
for the record, Ezra’s probably the smartest 22 yr old I’ve ever hung out with.
hufNpuf @ 170
Anyone else seen this bumper sticker? I picked one up at a fundraiser the other night:
Of Course it Hurts!
YOU’RE BEING SCREWED BY AN ELEPHANT!!
SteveAudio @ 174
‘Chess by mail’ argument, or real-time blitz?
;>)
TRex,
The two students in my music history class who got the best scores in last week’s exams were named Joshua Bell and Willie Nelson. Go figure?
Ed*ard Teller @ 175
where can I get some?
the former, i’s been an all day sort of thing. I actually called the guy an idiot. I’m so proud! :(
ET you can see my comments at 124, 134 & 160.
The ACLU had a Townhall with their DC director & John Dean to discuss the NSA spying plus they threw in the joke compromise bill.
On Nov. 26 1997
APEC featured on News Hour
Nov. – Dec. – IMF moves in to offer bail-outs. Gold sell of [sic] steepens. U.S. Dollar, universally regarded as THE safe haven, surges. Gold falls almost $US 60 to its lowest level since 1979.
http://www.the-privateer.com/gold97.html
I’ve no idea if these are noteeworthy. Nite all.
And in the spirit of blogwhoring, the lovely and talented John Amato gave me a link tonight.
I told him I was going to buy him dinner whether he likes it or not.
night, Margot
Another day when I call McCain a traitor to our country. Again he did not stand up. Again he let BushCo make a chump out of him. God I can’t wait until he runs again…. Can you imagine if Gov Janet ran against him?
Wow… ex-Attorney General … quite a nice thought! Now I have nice thoughts to head off to bed….
Mad Dogs @
161
I like the way you think, but I think I disagree on a couple of matters. The U.S. Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws, but:
So, that prohibition is a one-way thing.
However, Article VI of the Constitution makes senate-ratified treaties (e.g. the Geneva Conventions) the “Supreme Law of the Land.” Until Congress passed the War Crimes Act of 1996, that fact had no teeth.
But then suddenly war crimes were federal crimes, and there were a flock of lawyers anxious to try to enforce those laws.
SteveAudio @ 179
Well, you could forgive them for their idiocy. It’s the noble, decent thing to do.
;>)
Mad Dogs @
165
One thing that date would cover is the ‘98 Embassy bombings, retroactively speaking.
TRex @ 171
Hey. I once met a man named Edward Teller, a philosopher, not a physicist.
Wigwam @ 187
Who’d a thunk it!
Nite y’all
Wigwam,
never met Ed, but we corresponded back in the early ’90s. I’m working on an opera about Project Chariot – seems like forever – and I wanted his permission to describe his role in it in unflattering terms. He was unexpectedly enthusiastic, yet 1000000% unrepentant. About anything…
or maybe you knew all that already.
Ed*ard Teller @ 190
I assume you mean about that ol’ bomb thingie, and the whole nuculur energy stuff?
katymine,
scrolled back to your comments. wish I’d been there! None of these people seem to include Alaska in their book tours.
When he was here for book salon, I was so blown away at the way he went through ALL those pertinent comments and treated each with ALL his respect and hard-earned wisdom.
Ed*ard Teller @ 190
Not at all. The guy I met (mid in the mid 1970s) was his son, who was an academic in the area of philosophy.
I remember enjoying his talk, but don’t remember what it was about. ;-)
I have to crash. But I sure hope that tomorrow the Democratic senators will find it in their heart to stand up and be counted against giving the president the power to legalize war crimes. And, making it stick requires a filibuster.
SteveAudio @ 191
SteveAudio,
Project Chariot was intended to be the poster child of the newly created Department of Nuclear Excavation, a division of the Atomic Energy Commission, created in the 2nd Eisenhower administration. Teller proposed to close the Straits of Gibralter, create a sea-level Panama Canal, mine for gold, drill for oil – all with hydrogen bombs.
The experimental project, to prove the feasability of his ideas, was to be the explosion of four or five h-nukes near Point Hope, Alaska, to create a harbor. He came up here and totally wowed the rubes who ran this place then (we haven’t improved much since!).
He stated that nobody lived within hundreds of miles. When it was pointed out that over a thousand Inupiat Eskimos lived close by, he suggested relocating them to the South Pacific. The Alaska Natives and members of the infant environmental movement killed the program and the Department of Nuclear Excavation idea.
Steve Audio -
The C&L was great tonight. And I read your link, and the wikipedia on Buckley. Was surprised to discover he went to GIT one year after I graduated there. (But I can’t figure out why he was slated for a 2-year deal. Mine was only one 12-month year to graduation.) Apparently he hated it, but I really think I got the last good year before it changed from a jazz school to a stupid rock, big hair, let’s-noodle-all-day-long school. And the egos bouncing off the walls… oy gevult.
His rendition of that song still makes me teary-eyed, though I did hear KD Laing sing it live a couple of years ago. She nails it, too.
(Hope your September 19ths are getting a little easier…)
ET 195:
Re: Project Chariot, I had heard several anecdotes that painted him as somewhere between a genius, and a fixated lunatic.
This story, of which I was not aware, sadly, paints him more as the latter.
Glad he never had his finger on the actual trigger.
There was no two-year course at MI in 1984, or previous to that. Somebody should change that Wiki.
shoephone:
Thanks for the comment in re: Kristin. It especially made my Mom happy. Yes, they are a little easier, time does heal, somewhat, after all.
I eally can’t picture JB at MI, except he clearly had some fine guitar skillz. But most guitarists that I’ve seen coming out of ther are ready to be the next Satriani or Navarro, not someone like JB.
While I was at Larrabee Studios, we hired several runners from MI, and most of them were pretty great folks. They had gone through the studio course, not the instrumental course.
Also, just wanted to throw this in:
McCain, Warner, and Graham are bastards!
SteveAudio @ 197
Im told that he was the prototype for Dr. Strangelove.
His son’s reactions to some indelicate comments made me thing that he did not share his father’s facination with “the gadgets.”
SteveAudio @
197
I don’t know if I’d use that last line about Ed when talking to any Downwinders. He blew off a lot of nukes in the western Rockies.
Best book on Project Chariot is _The Firecracker Boys_ by Dan O’Neill. If I get around to finishing the opera, Dan’s gonna help.
http://www.amazon.com/Firecrac…..0312134169
Wigwam 201:
Teller/Strangelove, that makes sense.
ET 202: Thanks.
Reminds me of the story of all the actors from some movie shooting in the Nevada desert, downwind of some nuclear tests, virtually all died from cancer.
Wigwam @
201
The family was driving to a Thai restaurant in Wasilla tonight, and I suggested it may be time for a re-make of Dr. Strangelove. Dick Cheney almost makes a better model than Teller himself did for Peter Sellers.
The concensus – other than me – was you couldn’t possibly improve on that movie, so why screw with such an icon. I disagreed, saying that Strangelove was a political statement, made at a very important time, and that that time has once again arrived.
ET 205:
I agree. Weird thought, but perhaps Kevin Kline to play the Sellers part?
I have a friend who was a kid living in Cedar City in those days of nuclear tests. Someone bought him some sort of radiation measurement tool (Geiger counter?). After one test, he went outside and measured the radiation on the clothes hanging on the line, and his instrument went off scale. So his family called the Atomic Energy Commission to ask what was up. The bureaucrat on the other end of the line kept repeating: “Your clothes are perfectly safe, but wash them before you wear them.” Whatever they asked got that same response.
Steve –
I can commiserate. Sending good thoughts to you, mom and sis. This time of year is always tough for me – the anniversary of my mom’s death is coming up. You just deal with it the best way you can, because… that’s all you can do! It does get a bit easier with time. (Funny how cliches sometimes contain that kernel of truth.)
Yeah, the rocker guys at GIT. I was one of only 12 girls at the school, and I’ll bet if JB and I had been there the same year he would have been pal-ing around with me and my best girlfriend. She and I used to have loads of fun imitating all the Satriani wanna-bees.
She was a total blues gal, loved Robert Johnson, Howlin’ Wolf and Eric Clapton. And I just wanted to be the next Wes Montgomery or Pat Metheny.
Hey Ed Teller – How you been?
I’ve thought that a remake of 1984 would be timely. Better yet, a first make of the Space Merchants (Kornbluth and Pohl, 1952).
Shoephone 208:
Ever study any Lenny Breau? Holy crap! I had a copy of his first album, from ‘68 or ‘69, after Chet Atkins discovered him and signed him to RCA Nashville. Sadly it got stolen from my car many years ago.
shoephone @
209
About to ask you the same thing! Real good in ways. I’ve been volunteering for Diane Benson’s campaign against Don Young, and helping a bit with a couple of local races, teaching and blowing my horns a lot, dealing with the upcoming reality of two kids in college at the same time. Putting the homestead to rest for the winter. Lots of swans and geese stopping off at the lake on their way your way.
How about you? Darcy’s gonna pull it off on the east side?
SteveAudio @ 211
Now there’s a freakin’ genius.
darkblack @ 213
I saw him play only once, at a NAMM show, can’t remember which booth. Steve Morse was playing rhythm, and standing there with a big grin on his face watching Lenny. My Lord, what a talent.
His death is still mysterious, a waste.
re the screenplay for the Strangelove remake, Billmon’s written it already:
http://billmon.org/archives/002753.html
Steve -
I met Lenny Breau two days before he died. He came to school on a Friday, as one of our “guest teachers”. He sat in a practice room most of the day, and just talked and played with anybody who came in. He was so sweet. And an absolutley amazing player! He played a custom made acoustic 8-string, as I recall. He was heavily influenced by Bill Evans, and just totally blew everybody away with his light touch, his sound, his approach.
He was very generous with his knowledge, showing us anything we wanted to learn. Of course, it was all so far advanced harmonically that hardly anybody really got it.
That night a friend and I went to hear him play at the Sunset Hilton. Hardly anyone was there. He came over during a set break, thanked us profusely for coming. We left about 1 am. He was found dead in his swimming pool at 10 am Sunday.
At school on Monday, after word got around, one of my French friends, Jean-Marc, pulled me aside. He was really anxious, and told me that later in the afternoon on Friday he had been the last one to go in and play some tunes with him. He said mostly they just talked and that Lenny seemed in a very sad mood, very reflecive. When Jean-Marc bid him good-bye and said please come back soon, Lenny said something like “Well, it’s best not to plan. You just never know what’s in store.” Jean-Marc said it had given him an uncomfortable feeling. I related how when Peter and I went to see him play that night, he was so thankful we’d come.
Lenny had a long history of addiction problems. Years later, Jean-Marc would telephone me from the mountains in France, still believing that it had been a hit by drug dealers. Who knows? But he certainly knew how to swim, and, well, I guess anything is possible.
On rare occasions when I hear his music on the radio I think back on how sad and sweet he was. And I feel grateful I got to meet him.
SteveAudio @ 214
Like Don Francks said… RRRRRANG.
The things Lenny lived for weren’t enough to sustain him…I’m just glad people were there to record him sometimes, like that Chance Meeting recording with Tal Farlow.
shoephone 216:
my god, what a story! Thank you for sharing it. What a wonderful experience, meeting him, even though it turned out so sadly/
He was living in Laguna Beach, playing guitars built for him by a guy down there, can’t remember his name.
If it’s Ok, I may incorporate your story in a future blog post about Lenny.
darkblack 217:
Almost all of his recorded output is available on CD these days, thankfully. Some pretty goofy, but some of it is sublime.
I can’t tell you how many guitarists I have played Lenny for, asking them about the rhythm and lead players, only to stun them when I tell them it’s just one guy.
Same thing happens when I play Clarence White for unknowing guitarists, I ask what they think about this fingerstyle guy,and when I tell them it’s just Clarence playing with a flatpick, the just sit down and shut up.
ET -
I think I might have seen a couple of your geese fly my way. (They didn’t stop to fill me in on your doings, though.)
I definitley think Darcy can pull it out, but damn, her campaign could stand a shot in the arm. I wrote them and asked “When is the second TV ad going on the air? It’s been over a month since the last one” (which was somewhat boring). I pointed out that Peter Goldmark, who’s running against Cathy McMorris in the 5th, already had two spots produced and broadcast a few weeks ago.
Plus, Bush and Rove have both been here raising money for Reichert. The GOP is desperate to keep that seat, and they know Darcy could very well rip it out from under Reichert’s behind. The GOP pulls out all the stops. I think we need too, as well.
BTW, Cantwell’s only primary challenger, Hong Tran, had a bit of a meltdown Wednesday morning, thrashing around with criticism for all WA State dems she could think of, jumping down Darcy’s and Jim McDermott’s necks in the process. Not a pretty sight.
So now you and the wife are empty-nesters? Enjoy it!
gotta get some sleep, folks, thanks for the company.
SteveAudio @ 219
Yeah, it’s digital independence to a degree mortals can’t fathom…Exquisite.
Reminds me of an old Randy Bachman anecdote I heard…When Lenny was ‘teaching’ him in Winnepeg, asking Lenny what style he was playing…Lenny replies, ‘Chet Atkins style’, but saying it so soft and light that Randy thinks it’s one word, so after the lesson he runs downtown and says to the guy behind the record store counter: ‘Got any chetatkins records?’
Took ‘em a while to figure it out
;>)
G’night Steve. Yes, you can incorporate whatever you like in a post.
Next time you’ll have to tell me more about Clarence White…. you’ve got me curious.
darkblack @ 222
That’s totally hilarious.
Shoephone & SteveAudio,
Shoephone – what a story. Who knows, but its got to be tough sometimes with that much random genius. I try not to envy musicians with that much more talent than I’ve got, because I know it all comes with some sort of burden.
Thinking about his approach to jazz, and those days in California, reminded me of Joe Pass, who is so different, but has also been a great teacher. Here’s a goodnight song for Lenny Breau:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cih-wr3wFGY
General Election all 50 States:
Now!
Mush, you firedoggies!
Ohhh, Joe Pass. One of my biggest influences. I call him “Mr. iii-VI-ii-V-I”. He was a guest teacher too. (But he wasn’t very nice, I’m sorry to say!) “Exemious” has a great version of Lush Life” on it, but his old album “For Django” is still my sentimental favorite.
Well, I’m hitting the soft purple pillows now.
Goodnight ET and DB.
Ed*ard Teller @ 225
Indubitably…If you could live through his cigar smoke in enclosed spaces.
;>)
Night, folks
1,267 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Ed*ard Teller and the physics of music:
Are there any sessions better’n Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson? Kinda like Heifitz and Rubenstein…like givin a listen to a bit of heaven.
KEEP THE FAITH, THEY CAN’T EVER TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US!!!
(Tiptoes into the room so not to waken those who’ve just gone to sleep, and turns on a light. Feels the woodstove, Oh Good it’s still warm!!
Opens up the stove and feeds in wood and a little kindling, applies a lit match,and presto, the fire catches, and she tiptoes the room to pour the boiled water over fresh ground coffee beans.)
SURPRISE!! Norske is Here!!
good morning, firepups
here in central jersey we’re having a little taste of fall, with another day of cool temps before we get some warmth & rain this weekend
Thanks to TRex for another heaping helping of snark. Dangerstein does his best to be the fish in the barrel.
Not surprised that St. McCain, Huckleberry, and Warner caved, but disheartened, nonetheless. Will Senate Democrats have the spine to filibuster? If they’re looking at the polls, they should. If they’re listening to the usual inside-the-Beltway consultants, they won’t. I’m an optimist by nature, but these days I can never underestimate the spinelessness of Democrats in the US Congress.
The steady drumbeat to bombing Iran has my stomach lurching. I read the piece on Matt Yslesias’s blog from a day or two ago:
War Clouds, Plus — Worst Idea Ever
Fred Kaplan wonders if the “prepare to deploy” order that’s “been sent out to U.S. Navy submarines, an Aegis-class cruiser, two minesweepers, and two mine-hunting ships” means we’re going to war with Iran. Sam Gardiner, former US Air Force Colonel, concludes that we are in a new report (availble in PDF) for the Century Foundation. Gardiner says the preparations for war “will not be a major CNN event.” Instead, they “will involve the quiet deployment of Air Force tankers to staging bases” and “additional Navy assets moved to the region.” Gardiner makes the point that while nobody’s talking about a land invasion of Iran, significant elements in the government do have more ambitious goals than simple surgical strikes at Iranian nuclear facilities. Such strikes are very unlikely to actually resolve the perceived Iran issue, and there are administration figures who’ve convinced themselves that a sufficiently wide air target set will prompt regime change in Iran. One should note that the curious thing about air power is that the professionals involved in managing it have a longstanding, cross-national, and incredibly pernicious habit of massively and systematically overstating its efficacy in accomplishing all sorts of implausible things.
At this point, I think I need to bring up what one might call the Craziest Goddamn Thing I’ve Heard In a Long Time. This story came to me last week from an anonymous individual who I would say is in a position to know about such things. According to this person, the DOD has (naturally) been doing some analysis on airstrikes against Iran. The upshot of the analysis was that conventional bombardment would degrade the Iranian nuclear program by about 50 percent. By contrast, if the arsenal included small nuclear weapons, we could get up to about 80 percent destroying. In response to this, persons inside the Office of the Vice President took the view that we could use the nukes — in other words, launch an unprovoked nuclear first strike against Iran — and then simply deny that we’d done so. Detectable radiation in the area of the bombed sites would be attributed to the fact that they were, after all, nuclear facilities we’d just hit.
Now I rather doubt that’s going to happen. Typically, Bush dials down the crazy factor a notch or two relative to what comes out of the OVP. Nevertheless, it’s a sobering reminder that we have genuine lunatics operating in the highest councils of government at the moment. It’s an extremely dangerous situation.
—–Matthew Yglesias, 9/19/06 MY blog
UGH!
I’ve been nauseous ever since I read that.
Mr. nj progressive has linked up with a major peace organization here in the Garden State, and we’ll both be doing some volunteer work on their behalf before Strangelove plays out in real time before our eyes [I’ve always though that Cheney was the real Dr. Strangelove, without the science].
Every day we have victories, small ones like exposing trolls, bigger ones like Lamont’s primary win in CT, and it’s cheering to read about the self-inflicted wounds of George Allen and Joe Lieberman.
But most Americans don’t pay a whit of attention to politics, and many think it just doesn’t affect them. I read the NY Times, check blogs like this one, listen to a little NPR [don’t watch TV anymore; stopped after 9-11], and I think to myself, “It can’t get any worse.” And then Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and their minions do things that make me ashamed to be American.
So my early morning question to any firepups who are hanging around in this thread:
How can I keep the despair at bay? My country abducts and tortures people. My country has already invaded another country for the sake of projecting American power in the Middle East. My country is going to bomb Iran. Is there any way to stop Bush/Cheney from doing this?
Good Morning, and aaaah, fresh coffee!!
Yesterday 50 friends and neighbors from our Downeast region of Maine occupied Senator Snowe’s office in Bangor with the intention of staying there until she made some kind of a resonable response to their plea that she take a stand in opposition to this administration’s stance on war as “diplomacy” and other vital issues. This is not the first time that they have risked arrest, but this is certainly the largest group ever to gather together with this in mind.
Our community radio station WERU was there and interviewed some members of the group. As of 4:30, yesterday afternoon, the work day had not yet come to an end, and I did not yet hear about what happened. (I listened at the top of the hour to Faux news and/or our local NPR but there was no word in the mix.) I hope that the on-site reporting will be archived at the station, as many of the speeches were profound and elegant, and I’d love to be able to point you to these stirring words.
One thing that many protesters repeated, is the importance for all of us to go out to anti-war (anti-BushCo) demonstrations and gatherings this Saturday, September 30 from 1-3pm, to show our numbers and our disgust with what has happened to our nation under such vile guidance.
Peace and Blessings to one and all the world over, and please, we must gather in public places and speak our minds. This madness must be stopped.
NJP–my comment written while you were writing–I am so with you. I live in a constant state of heightened anxiety about what has happened to our country under the worst guidance ever. Perhaps the worst imaginable, for, as you noted, so many otherwise decent people, are unable or unwilling to remove the scales from their eyes to see the horror that surrounds us. Doing something, anything, every day does help somewhat, whether it be phone calls or simply speaking out to strangers about the greater political picture and asking for them to do the same if they are concerned, or asking them why they are not concerned if that seems to be the story.
Of course there are many more progressive people here than there are in some areas, so more often than not other folk are sympathetic, but as to how many others there are who actually do anything is hard to tell. Certainly ours are not the voices that we hear raised on most main stream media.
Bringing about change going to take such massive civil disobedience that it cannot be whitewashed. It’s that simple. For the first time in history, many of us no longer have ANY faith in the “free and fair” elections our system promises. (Doesn’t THAT chill my blood!) The time for real sacrifice is on us. We must be willing to risk our personal safety and security, for we know how our law enforcement has been trained to deal with those who protest. Scary, isn’t it? Scarier than simply submitting and losing our souls?
Dan spammed Mylefnutmeg.com with the Harry Potter post under the name ‘truthteller06′, and was busted by BranfordBoy:
“Lieberman Deputy SpokesLiar Spams The Blogs ( )
by: BranfordBoy
Wed Sep 20, 2006 at 19:21:34 PM EDT
As my good buddy, ctblogger, might say, “This is too rich!”
Lieberman deputy press secretary, Scott Overland, has decided that the best way to save his boss’s sagging butt is to spam the blogs.
Of course, he doesn’t do it offically, using his own name, or identifying himself as a paid Lieberman staffer. That would be the honorable thing to do and the Lieberman campaign seems to have a strict policy against doing the honorable thing. Ever.
Here at MLN, he poses as “truthteller06.” (You can read his maiden effort in this thread in the comment with the all-cap headline HARRY POTTER REPORTS FROM THE LIEBERMAN CAMPAIGN TRAIL. (In that thread you will also see a great example of Scott’s predeliction for using all-caps as a communication device.)
Over at ConnecticutBLOG he styles himself as “Vote Real Dem.”
The real knee-slapper is that both handles are perfect LieberLies. A) he doesn’t tell the truth and B) he’s not voting for a real Dem but for the one and only member of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party. Unless, of course, he plans to abandon the CFL party. Now that would be in the Lieberman spirit.
Feel free to post any additional Overland sightings. If he’s posting at other blogs under other names, he should be easy to spot since he just posts the same thing.”
http://72.36.155.10/connecticu…..aryId=3426
I’m glad TRex picked it up – I did a diary over at Kos yesterday about it, but it sank like a rock.
Good morning folks — 53 and cloudy here –great day to sleep in, but — Mayn’t.
Old Sow,
Like you, I come here to FDL to hear other people who feel as I do, that our country is headed into a moral abyss, let by criminals. I live in a blue state, where I have colleagues and neighbors who feel as I do.
Maybe getting involved in Coalition for Peace Action will make me feel as though I am doing something positive to change things.
But, like you, I think it’s time to head for the barricades. It’s time for some massive demonstrations to show that Americans reject torture, reject wars of agression, and reject Bush/Cheney.
Marchons les enfants
Oh yeah, the weather…46 and scattered clouds in a mostly clear sky. We did not get the frost last night that other parts of Maine did, but I’m glad that I got the basil harvested and processed yesterday. And wasn’t the ground chilly when I went out barefoot to turn off the electric fence!
Morning Imm…….
I was so glad to see shoephone is back and I always love that fellow, darkblack, and his ode to those loved
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6…..243213732/
ecb @ 102
What the hell are you talking about? Aside from saving Harry in the first book, Snape has had no redeeming qualities about him at all.
Did you read what Wigwam at 89 linked to?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/21/172635/165
Old Sow @ 236
Basil harvest this weekend here in NJ. Mr. nj progressive is my brassero, plucking leaves, while I man the food processor, making pesto. Middling harvest this year, should yield about 30 jars or so. Need to cut down a couple of trees that are now shading prime basil growing area of the garden.
I use Marcella Hazan’s pesto recipe:
2 cloves garlic
2 cups basil leaves, firmly packed
1/2 cup olive oil
1/2 cup grated parmesan
Put all ingredients into work bowl of food processor and process to smooth paste. Add 2 tablespoons pine nuts and pulse to coarsely chop nuts. Put in jars and freeze. Marcella says you can’t freeze with the parmesan in the pesto, but I’ve been doing it for more than 20 years and never had a problem.
Off to work now.
Wishing good humor, courage, and joyful hearts to all.
Work for peace.
Morning, y’all. NJP, I don’t know what to tell you, for I’m in the same sort of funk. We all have those lists in our heads of all the things that seven years ago we’d have never imagined the United States doing, including the recent news of Congressional-sanctioned torture. “Dude, where’s my country?” indeed.
What galls me the most personally is the MSM punditocracy that just doesn’t get it, and perhaps keeping those commentators thinking that it’s still possible to have real compromise on the Hill is one of the GOP’s real victories. There was a post on dKos yesterday by Hunter on Broder’s column that was just fantastic. For me, though, the money quote was here:
Compromise is possible when you have legitimate competing views on a policy decision. Some policy options, however, are beyond the pale. That Broder can’t get this gives me little hope for anyone that remains within the D.C. bubble.
Okay, vitriol done… Time for coffee and work, with the sunrise glow just creeping over Key Biscayne and Bear Cut.
Yes, I read it –
I am unsure what to do to change this country back — saw George HW yesterday. Seems like an affable old coot –
LHP reminded me how bad he was and how he started all this lawlessness off with the pardons for all his criminal co-conspirators. Apples don’t fall far from the tree,
NJ, the lazy way is to grind the basil leaves in olive oil and freeze!! making up the sauce as needed. Have a great day at work, and talk political activism continually!!
And thanks for the darkblack, Imm.
OS, for my pesto, I use toasted pecans (which I get express from my in-laws trees in Texas). It adds a great smokey flavor….
This link just in my mailbox………
“Fitzgerald given way out of Libby CIA leak case
Judge says he can dismiss case if classified secrets will be revealed”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14941062/
the msnbc spin……
Imm, that toasted pecan pesto sounds wonderful!!
off to work — soonish! Be strong, its gonna be a tough six weeks to the election….
Apologies for the rant earlier — scowling at my computer really isn’t as effective…
Really OT, I remember seeing that a couple of you early folks are/were professors. I’ve got my first interview for an undergrad faculty position in a little over a week. Any suggestions for me on the “brief, informal” presentation they’ve asked me to do for the department (both faculty and students) after the sit-down interview with the search committee?
Mornin’ folks! 44 out this AM, mostly clear skies, a little morning haze.
Why are those two guys chasing John Bolton?
panda 2
Sharkbabe channeling me to me – last night
“until we kick their asses over stealing the very electoral process – and I mean it literally, physically hurt them, brandish their beloved guns right at them, put the fear of god and humanity and Jefferson in them, this is all for naught. We got Ned, they got diebold. Ned becoming a senator means nothing until we get serious about diebold.
We have had five years of an unelected junta destroying America and as much of the world as it can.
Could never have happened without deliberately, systematically fucking up voting.
They need do nothing more than continue to fuck up voting, and count on continued national silence. Who can blame them? It just works and works.
Voting security is THE ONLY ISSUE. You can kick the passion and intelligence of everybody here to the curb. It means fucking nothing until we re-secure the vote. I.e., re-secure the nation to the people.”
‘Morning, FirePups. Wish I could say it was a good one. I am watching all this posturing and glad-handing on television about the agreement on torture…and all I can think is,
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN????
These b*stards have legalized the torture of innocents, and failed to hold their torturers accountable.
While trying to explain to my own children the unexplainable, my daughter asks why all these heads talking this morning had white hair.
Yes. Old white men. Happy to have given Bush/Cheney permission to have tortured and torture again innocents including children.
We have much work to do, FirePups. This now goes to Congress. You know what to do — call, fax, hammer away on their immorality.
** FILIBUSTER **
Rayne, not only what about the children who might be/are tortured is right. Also the children in this country who grow up with the idea that this is okay behaviour!! OMG. To the barricades…….
1,267 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Firepups:
Anybody know whatever happened ta “markfromireland”?
KEEP THE FAITH AND LOSE LOSE OUR FRIENDS, THE REPLACEMENTS AIN’T OLD ENOUGH YET!!
Norskeflamethrower @ 252
MFI can be found at his blog
http://gorillasguides.blogspot.com/
I love (in the way sarcastic sense) NPR this morning –
“Democrats have been largely silent on the issue. The Bill is expected to pass next week.”
FishGuyDave — I have a lot of opinions about such presentations, but here are Imm’s three ground rules for success:
1) Prepare and Practice!! Get friends to watch your presentation at least three times before you give it — You will be more comfortable and obvious holes or gaffs can be corrected before show time
2) Do your homework on the audience. In a mixed faculty/student setting you must really teach to the students’ level, but throw in some tidbits that interest the faculty. Figure out where the faculty reviewers are coming from scholarship wise and see if you can touch on those issues (do not pander, be obsequious — flattery however is appreciated)
3) Energy and Fun! Present like you love teaching more than anything — do it with the positive enthusiasm that you would approach the world finals of your favorite sport if your favorite team was playing. Students will recognize that as the best quality of the best teachers.
FWIW Dept.
Good morning, all.
Seems like some of us woke up in the same frame of mind. Warner, Lindsay and McCain are wearing their Atta Boy! pin and GWB is now the official Torturer in Chief, so as this WaPo editorial says The Abuse Can Continue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01647.html
God, I’m depressed.
Going for a long walk just to make myself breathe.
Later…
imm, thanks a bunch for the suggestions! Although I know on one level that I’ve been preparing for this all through grad school and post-doc, it’s still a bit daunting at times on others. I’ll let you all know how it goes.
As for the Dems, well, I think Reid has been a bit quiet on this, but in a larger sense, the whole strategy of “let’s sit back and wait for the GOP to implode” doesn’t speak much for leadership. This issue should be an easy one: “Citizens of the United States, your choice is simple this November: GOP = torture and Dems = not torture. Your call.”
Morning gang — how’s tricks? Am trying to get my hands on the Walton ruling, but my computer is being screwy this morning. (I think I may have been using my laptop way more than they anticipate in the manufacturing, and it’s on its last legs…)
So many things going on this morning, so little time to hit them all. SIGH At least Fi is feeling a bit better today, and I appreciate all the good wishes from everyone the last coupla days. :)
Well good morning back to you Christy. I’m glad to hear that Fiona is better. Take good care of yourself too. When one part of our peace of mind is under stress, the rest becomes more vulnurable.
Thanks, Old Sow. I’ve caught a bit of her secondary viral ick, I’m afraid — but no time to slow down: the in-laws are coming to stay with us for a while starting on Saturday. :) (Happily, my in-laws are very nice folks.)
Morning Redd,
Good to see you back at the ‘lake. I’ve been truly disheartened the past few days [see 230 above]. is there any good news out there, besides Fiona feeling better?
NJ at 260 — I spent several hours reviewing a buttload of political ads last night after Fi went to bed. Am finishing up a post for you guys on it. Despite all the horrible national news in the headlines of late, I think we lose sight sometimes of the great work that a lot of the individual candidates are doing. And I wanted to spotlight a few ads for discussion this morning for you guys — and talk a bit about who is doing something right for a change with some of them.
I’m a bit behind on news due to Fi being sick, so I’m catching back up this morning with you guys on a few issues. When we were at the Clinton meeting on the 12th, we talked a bit about the need for leadership on a number of issues, and I told him that McCain, Graham and Warner were going to cave on this torture bill, despite all of McCain’s experience with mistreatment first hand — and I’m disgusted that I was right that political calculation would win out over principle. SIGH But I need more coffee to be anything but pissed off about this — pragmatism and analysis require more caffeine than I have had as yet this morning. *g*
Jeebus, I’m so tired this morning, I may have to start a coffee IV… *g*
Christy — glad to hear about the recovery.
I do not think I’ve told you previously, but I think Fiona is one of the finest names ever — so sweet, old fashiony and adult. On my mother’s side of the family, which stretches back literally to the Mayflower, there was a Great Aunt Fiona who I knew when very very young. She was so kind and old yet engaged. She smelled like powder too, which for a toddler was a bonus.
My Mom’s family had many wonderful Victoria names, our favorite as children was:
Holdafina Hostelina Hypromenesta Meachum
new thread
Christy, If I could send you some reserve energy, it’d be there instantly. Thanks for your faith, hope and generosity.
Remember, by voting Democratic this fall, we can choose to end torture.
nsr @ 24
a little late to the party ;)
I believed this somewhat as well… at least until sometime just after the primary. However, now that his cover has been blown (that Joe’s really a Republican in Democrat clothing) I believe he just may decide to return to the mother ship and possibly may choose to caucus with the wingers should he win.
Oh, and TREX… thanks for yet another lunch-time laugh (people nearby are beginning to wonder about the spontaneous laughing though).
LOL
I am sick and tired of people not giving Lieberman his due. Lieberman is a team player for the Democrats, and is doing all he can to help them win. You see, if Joe hadn’t hired Dangerstein, a real Democrat might have. With an idiot like that running a Senate campaign, some Democrat could have been in big trouble. So i for one would like to offer a hearty thanks to Joe Lieberman.