
The curiously dissociative actions of national NARAL head Nancy Keenan and the organization’s November endorsements only seem to get worse and worse.
Local Connecticut NARAL head Carolyn Treiss is well aware of the limitations of Joe Lieberman and his positions with regard to reproductive rights — his comment telling rape victims to take a "short ride" if they want emergency contraception was no doubt one of the factors (along with his critical cloture vote for the ragingly anti-choice Samuel Alito) that led her to buck the national organization and vote for Ned Lamont when she was a delegate to the CT Democratic Convention in May of this year. She then went on to join Conncticut Choice Voice, an organization of pro-choice women supporting Ned Lamont and vigorously opposing Joe Lieberman for the lipservice he pays to women’s issues that he quickly abandons whenever it’s crunch time.
Nancy Keenan, on the other hand, went out of her way to defy local Connecticut choice groups and give the national NARAL endorsement to Lieberman.
The rift only grows more pronounced. Now CT-NARAL (which can’t endorse US Senators, but can endorse gubernatorial candidates) has refused to endorse Jodi Rell for having the exact same position as Lieberman (sans the callous "short ride" quip):
Traditionally, a leading abortion rights group would endorse a socially tolerant, female governor who supports abortion rights and who is leading in the most prominent poll by 32 percentage points. In fact, the NARAL political action committee endorsed Republican M. Jodi Rell when she ran for lieutenant governor and for the state legislature.
But this year is different.
On Friday, the group endorsed New Haven Mayor John DeStefano after expressing disappointment in Rell and her running mate, former state Rep. Michael Fedele of Stamford.
In one of the most controversial issues at the state Capitol this year, Rell opposed forcing Catholic hospitals to provide emergency contraception to rape victims. The Catholic hospitals opposed a bill to change state law, saying their religious beliefs would be compromised if all state hospitals were required to provide the morning-after contraceptive pill that is known as Plan B. Despite approval by the budget-writing appropriations committee, the full House and Senate never voted on the bill.
Rell’s position on Plan B was a critical factor in causing her to lose NARAL’s endorsement.
"That caused us a lot of concern because that was our priority issue this year," said Carolyn Treiss, NARAL’s executive director. "She wasn’t there for us."
So let’s just make sure we got this straight. "Plan B" was the priority issue of CT-NARAL this year, and Keenan came in and cut the legs out from underneath them by endorsing the guy who opposed it?
Nice.
Would someone like to pull Keenan aside and let her know that people give money to NARAL to protect reproductive rights, and not DC cronyism? I realize it’s a small town rife with myopia, and you think it might have occurred to her by now, but evidently not.
In the mean time, kudos to Carolyn Treiss. This can’t be easy, having an enormous money-hungry lobbyist looking over her shoulder every time she tries to do the right thing (an article in the Washington Post about Keenan’s efforts to raise money to fight Alito said that "moderation was not the tone" of fundraising efforts, and Keenan enthusiastically copped to whipping people around with scare tactics about the end of choice — then just sat on the the mountain of cash and did almost nothing. Aside from eventually endorse Chafee and Lieberman that is, who both voted for cloture).
Yes, I realize, it’s always about the money. Only it’s not. Good for Carolyn Triess for having the courage to act upon that.
(BTW, Keenan has privately told people she never responded to the blogosphere’s Alito concerns because she thought it would eventually all "blow over," as would any flap about the Lieberman endorsement If you still haven’t "blown over," you can let her know here.)




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Fitz!
ARRRGGH!
“Plan B” be th’ priority issue o’ CT-NARAL this voyage, an’ Keenan came in an’ cut th’ legs ou’ from underneath them by endorsin’ th’ guy who opposed ‘t?
Ya lily livered scallywag!
Keenan needs a keelhauling.
Bravo Carolyn Treiss! Speaking up for human rights and truth to power!!!
boo hiss Keenan– sellout and fake!
epu’d– Allen’s temper tantrum coming up on CNN.
Covering Voinivich now.
spotlight…
also BTW, Keenan has privately told people she never responded to the blosphere’s Alito
Probably meant blogosphere.
Ahoy, I’e got Nancy’s “blown o’er”, right har.
Aye, blow Me, (and Me don’t mean “down”) Ms. Keenan,
Ye’ll ne’er get me buried booty!
I told the NARAL fundraiser who called me this weekend. “Has NAREL withdrawn its endorsement of Joe Lieberman?” I asked. “Um, I really don’t know,” said the caller. “Well, you can tell them that until they do withdraw that endorsement, they aren’t getting another dime from me.”
“Yes ma’am,” said the caller, sounding so unsurprised.
I wonder when NARAL will come to the conclusion that Keenan, in her waffling on who or what to support, is damaging NARAL’s reputation and findraising ability?
After all, didn’t she mention it?….it’s not the person, but the issue that matters? Why then has she made it personal, in supporting specific candidates, regardless of position?
This damages the credibility of an issues-oriented organisation like NARAL, something that should be made clear to board-members, so that they can decide to reclaim their credibility by replacing Keenan
Thanks for the reminder and opportunity to email NARAL and remind them that bad behavior has consequences.
I added that when I teach political science I always discuss why big organizations tend to become more self-serving and dishonest over time. I told them NARAL would be an exhibit this semester, and that I was sure my women students would find their behavior of interest.
Yar. Follow the money. I believe she’s on the take – yar. Maroon her with her Republican bag men.
jane, you have one little typo in the very last graf with blosphere’s
NARAL’s web page lists its CT Senate endorsement as “Joe Lieberman (I).” Not “Joe Lieberman (CFL)”
Either NARAL can’t be bothered to know that Lieberman is not and cannot be running as an Independent, or Lieberman’s camp is allowing the moniker in violation of CT law. Or both.
NARAL and Planned Parenthood have taken to acting like battered wives instead of pro choice activists. I cannot tell you how frustrated I am by the hestitancy of their behavior.
Part of it stems from the Kerry Campaign telling them that the new PAC they established was doing more harm than good in 2004. I almost went postal when I heard that.
Kerry didn’t lose because Planned PArenthood supported him. He may not have lost at all except when he prematurley conceded, and if he lost, it has mre to do with his failure to smackdoen the swiftboaters than anything the pro-choice folks did.
The Choice community has been too busy acting like well behaved “ladies” instead of gusty women.
So, Brava CArolyn Treiss. Let’s hear i=for a gutsy, determine broad (my highest compliment)
Ohio NARAL called my house. I told them to never call me again. I’m just pissed I didn’t tell them why.
From the department of I am not suprised:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0919.html
Speaking of dissociative yet ostensibly progressive organizations, if you go to HRC’s website they have senator chaffee as one of the candidates they support. Side note — the HRC site is sloppy, as it still refers to his opponent in the primary race and hasn’t been updated to reflect Chafee’s victory. Why HRC chose to jump on a pro-chafee wagon strikes me as nothing but bizarre, since it was convetional wisdom that if Chafee lost the state would be a sure win for the dems.
Oh, and their site is also noticeably absent on the Lamont/Lieberman race. Although I recall they supported Liberman in the primary.
(Is Talk Like a Pirate Day over yet?)
Thank God for the Carolyn Treisses of the world – a great example of fearlessness, I think.
Maybe Keenan will also be losing her job soon.
I wonder if we couldn’t Google up a little dirt on this woman? People like her always have a few skeletons in their closets (no ifthethunderdontgetya, not those skeletons…)
(Is Talk Like a Pirate Day over yet?)
(Inquiring Minds Want to Know)
Old Sow @ 19
Narrrrt yet.
Does NARAL have a Board and is it behind Keenan?
OT, or is it? The passivity of the public comes out in this note from Thailand:
Thai army chief leads coup while prime minister away
If the Prez decided that the GWOT required suspension of an election, extraordinary rendition of a few members of Congress, or preserving of public order by the Commander in Chief, would Americans line up to get pictures of themselves with tanks and troops on Capitol Hill?
Where would Joe be on this? Where would Keenan be?
Yeah, I know that’s all really tinfoil hat stuff.
Except in Thailand.
I know it’s OT, but
Happy birthday to me.
tommy yum @ 22
Many happy returns of the day! -Pooh
Happy Birthday tommy yum!
Thanks, pooch. HRC is crossed off my list. Why not stand up for a candidate that will stand up for them? Is it really that hard? And, they think we won’t notice? Where has “trust us” the last 6 years gotten us?
Happy birthday, tommy – !
Hope it’s a great day and a great year!
tommy yum @ 22
Virgos are the best!
Many happy returns.
oh, CNN reporting that Allen admits his Jewish heritage today. It’s newly discovered.
replays his foul tempered rant.
Jane, I have seen exactly the same thing happen at the Sierra Club – the local chapter gets screwed because the state- or national- level of the organization is too co-opted by its legislative contacts to risk alienating them. Sad and pathetic. And opponents understand this very well and tweak legislative packages to “force” compromises that betray the mission of the organization by appearing to be the “only game in town.”
This is a perennial problem with big lobby groups. The original mission of the organization gets lost in the chase for bucks and “allies.” Compromises that incrementally move things forward would be one thing but the result seems always to be one step forward and two steps back. It’s all about two things: 1) chasing down funding to the point of playing the piper’s tune (usu. a reliance on foundation funding over grassroots funding), and 2) the psychological “comfort” that goes along with hob-nobbing in the inside-the-beltway trappings of power. Ive seen this over and over. I once met as part of a group of enviros with a state senator who was on our side, and it was very ingratiating, the feeling of sitting there in a plush legislative office with a famous politician. He happened to be on our side, which was the losing side of that battle, but the feeling of “empowerment” was unmistakable.
The key is to make sure the grassroots always comes first. That is the inescapable conclusion IMO. Which is why the netroots will kick these fat asses out of their comfortable chairs before they know what hit them. BOO-YAH!
CU NexTuesday Nancy. Shouldn’t we do an emailing?
Balrog @ 18
Th’ wheel be turnin’ an’ ye canna slow down,
Ye canna let go an’ ye canna hold on,
Ye canna go aft an’ ye canna stand still,
If th’ thunder dasn’t get ye then th’ lightnin’ will.
Won`t ye try jus’ a wee bit harder,
Couldna ye try jus’ a wee bit more?
Won`t ye try jus’ a wee bit harder,
Couldna ye try jus’ a wee bit more?
Round, round robin run round, got t’ get aft t’ ‘ere ye belong,
Wee bit harder, jus’ a wee bit more,
A wee bit further than ye gone before.
Th’ wheel be turnin’ an’ ye canna slow down,
Ye canna let go an’ ye canna hold on,
Ye canna go aft an’ ye canna stand still,
If th’ thunder dasn’t get ye then th’ lightnin’ will.
Wee wheel turn by th’ fire an’ rod,
Big wheel turn by th’ grace o’ God,
Ever’ time that wheel turn `round,
Bound t’ co’er jus’ a wee more poop deck.
Th’ wheel be turnin’ an’ ye canna slow down,
Ye canna let go an’ ye canna hold on,
Ye canna go aft an’ ye canna stand still,
If th’ thunder dasn’t get ye then th’ lightnin’ will.
Won`t ye try jus’ a wee bit harder,
Couldna ye try jus’ a wee bit more?
Won`t ye try jus’ a wee bit harder,
Couldna ye try jus’ a wee bit more?
(Anne @ 17, Talk Like a Pirate DAy has smoothly shifted into….)
Tommy, birthdays are never OT.
Best wishes for a HAPPY one and many more as well.
It’s a good article, but there is one annoying bit:
Here’s a more accurate statement:
What a difference that makes! (And it would be even more accurate to say that it’s a requirement of all hospitals, including Catholic ones.) The first sounds like “let’s pass a law just to force Catholics to go against their religion”; the second conveys “we’re putting conditions on receiving public funds, which is something that happens all the time.”
Happy B-Day, Tommy!
Keenan’s position makes no strategic sense for NARAL.
I could understand it if Lieberman actually had a position that most matched the NARAL ideal, but he doesn’t.
The fact that she also downplayed the importance of the Alito vote shows she is out of her league. She really doesn’t understand what counts.
Speaking with my 75 year old mother last night about pushback here in Canada against funding tubal ligations.
She has a long history in working for women’s reproductive rights.
She said it makes her sad, upset, angry and tired that the other side is always pushing back. She would have liked, at her time of life to be able to look back and be able to point to legislation and say “I had a small part in making that come about. And it is done.”
Like so much women’s work, it needs to be redone over and over and over again.
As following generations of women we need to remember that.
ifthethunderdontgetya @
31
Well done!
Always a favorite (49 shows ‘80 to ‘95)
tommy yum @ 22
Happy Birthday!
Sorry to go OT but I have to ask:
Does anyone even use or maintain the State Roots Project site anymore? I’m the only blog post in a month on it apparently. Did firepups and DL gang just abandon it after all that work or what?
If so, that’s a damn shame.
Arrrr, Tommy, I be wishing ye many happy returns of the day! And plenty o’ booty as well!
Looking at it again on the front page, it looks like there are still a couple of state locations using State Roots still.
The CA chapters and HI chapter have apparently been mothballed.
Can anyone direct me to somewhere else CA, specifically Northern California is using as a community site to discuss, post, share info etc?
Happy Birthday Tommy, ya horn swollgin’ scallyag’ !!
tommy yum @
22
Happy birthday, Tommy.
I think I unleased pirate-speak to celebrate it. Unintentional.
Is Talk Like a Pirate Day over yet?
It ends at midnight Old Sow. Tomorrow’s holiday is “talk like a republican” day. I’ll have to google some good racial slurs tonite to get ready.
Those people at NARAL really are clouded.
While Connecticut is ranked 49th in taxpayer funding coming back from the feds, Lieberman was working with Santorum to lead the fight for Bush’s faith-based initiatives. Now Pat Robertson’s Operation Blessing gets more faith-based taxpayer funding than the entire state of Connecticut and millions are going to pro-life groups. Federal money coming back to CT is being used for abstinence education.
When will NARAL realize that when a senator stands on the floor of the senate and says this…
… that might not be the best guy to stand with?
ccmask @ 44
actually I was quoting Anne from two comments above, but what the hay? Pirate day has been funny, and what with all the bad stuff, a good day of giggles helps.
wrt your comment re:republican day, you funny!! Hope you’re feeling better now!!
Happy Birthday Tommy Yum!!! No more nuts left in the squirrel zippers, but big (((smooches))) to you.
You can check out who shares your birthday here:
http://www.brainyhistory.com/
Damn, Bridgett Bardot and john Sayles share mine.
From an old thread, an old comment. Since I feel like I repeat myelf, I figured I would really repeat myself. Remember, recycling is good for the environment.
I did correct spelling errors.
sorry to go OT again but here’s Allen’s statement released today and the only place I can find it is at NRO–
(emphasis mine)
whole thing at the link
http://sixers.nationalreview.c…..FkYWM4ZTM=
Mommybrain @ 47
Must you insult the man on his birfday?
Avast, me hearty, et bon anniversaire. (Is that right, Hugh, lol.)
angie @
48
So all you Macacas can just PISS OFF!
On Sunday I spoke to my mother-in-law in CT about the Senate race. Her take was “Women are really mad at Lieberman.” Kind of a slow burn that had finally burst into flames. I’ll be very interested in the demographics after the election to see how the vote split by sex. Maybe Lieberman could try courting women (a la George Allen’s “Ethnic Rally”) with a “Hen Party.”
Happy Birthday, Tommy. May your day be filled with cake, ice cream, music, and love.
op99 @
49
Sigh, Op99, I really outta read sh*t before I send it out there.
Sorry, Tommy, I was trying to be funny and stepped on your nuts instead.
tommy yum @
22
Aye, happy Birthday, Dear Tommy, argh!
PS: Aye, me heard tell rumors o’ you boys on Rachel Maddow’s show. Arrr, do tell, argh!
Get real —Keenan’s undoubtedly a paid GOP operative.
Happy Birthday Tommy,keep on rockin’.
jane – thanks for the link. e-mails’s away.
OT– Doktor Frist is getting reamed by Tweety on the subject of torture… frist sounds jest like boooosh.
sum doctor.
The following is from the S. Dakota Task Force which is fighting a pretty big battle. I was thinking that it is funny how science can come in handy at times yet, at other times, when the science is there (like global warming)they laugh at the science. And like Trex said one night, if you are against abortion, don’t have one.
The Task Force Report reached two overwhelming conclusions: (in pirate)
Abortion terminates th’ life o’ a separate, distinct, livin’ crewmate bein’ which can now be pro’en scientifically wi’ DNA evidence an’ research in th’ field o’ molecular biology.
Abortion hurts lasses , causin’ major physical, mental, emotional an’ spiritual consequences that can be devastatin’ t’ the’r lives
snip
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17100
angie @ 58
Frist was just on ye ole situation galley with blitzer.
Okay, I think it’s time for my BIG, GIANT SNEAKY PLAN:
Since we don’t trust the voting machines, I think we should all resign from the dem party and re-register as reps.
I think we should take the party over from the inside. Kick the wackadoos out and bring the party back to the moderate center.
WHO’S WITH ME????
Happy B’day Tommy Yum! ‘ave a mugga grog!
I guess he’s making rounds, twolf1! LOL
Following the new Lamont-HoJo poll from an earlier thread, I see Tester is up by 9%!, and both Ohio and Rhode Island have been moved to ‘leans Democrat’ by Rasmussen.
Tommy Yum, happy birthday, and may you have many more!
Bionic @
35
Illegitimus non carborundum
(Don’t let the bastards wear you down, according to a favorite bartender after, shall we say, an evening requiring a designated driver?.)
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 64
That’s the problem with having hoof-in-mouth disease. Montgomery Burns is helping to make Tester a Senator.
OT
Former secretary of state Colin L. Powell said yesterday that he decided to publicly oppose the Bush administration’s proposed rules for the treatment of terrorism suspects in part because the plan would add to growing doubts about whether the United States adheres to its own moral code.
“If you just look at how we are perceived in the world and the kind of criticism we have taken over Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and renditions,” Powell said in an interview, “whether we believe it or not, people are now starting to question whether we’re following our own high standards.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..on/special
So Naral should support HoJo b/c it will have to work with him for the next six years in frustrating Naral’s purpose as a lobbying group.
That is genuis. ;-P
Impeachment Happens @
61
Ummm, ewww. I don’t think I can. The party is too full of wackadoodles now. I think it would be a lot easier to entice the few remaining moderates over to our side.
(in piratespeak: Ahoy, ummm, ewww. Gar, Where can I find a bottle o’rum?)
OT – Kondrake: Rice and Hughes Convince Bush To Drop ‘Islamic Fascism’ From Speeches
glory be twolf1!
I think that albatross is already hanging about his mangy neck, but every little bit helps.
This may be a stupid question, and forgive me in advance, but what, specifically, stops CT-NARAL from endorsing US Senate candidates? Is this based on something statutory?
So, is it typical practice to take down comments you don’t agree with?
angie @ 73
Aye, he be re-arrangin’ the deck chairs on the ship to which be keelhauled
seriously?!?! @ 74
I don’t agree with your comments.
Sirota destroys Lieberman again on the subject of “moral equivalence.”
Go read, then spotlight to CT media (you can spotlight Kos articles by cutting and pasting them at the spotlight website – it is easy!):
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..17041/6825
Sent to NARAL national today:
“I think you have made a catastrophic decision, as it regards reproductive rights, by endorsing Joe Lieberman, who opposes Plan B and equivocates on the whole issue. What, really, has he done for NARAL or womens’ rights? I’d like to see the stats.
Looks like we have to fight this on the local and regional level, and no longer count on, or fund, the national office of NARAL. And please, please don’t send me back one of those overcooked replies. It compounds the insult to someone who used to support you.”
Go firedogs!
Maybe we have all been wrong and NARAL is actually siding with Hadassah.
ccmask @ 79
Eww. Bad visual. Gargling wit me grog.
Frank Rich and Alan Alda up next on Hardball. Might be good, sure to send Ol’ 60grit into a fit of pearl clutchin’.
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tommy yum @
22
Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Tommy….happy birthday to you.
(and yes, the neighborhood cats were disturblid greetli by the singing)
before I gotta run- HAPPY BIRTHDAY tommy yum-sure wish I could get you what I am sure you want above all else…..
OUR COUNTRY BACK
No time to skim through the whole thread, but just in case no-one’s pointed it out yet, it appears that Nancy Keenan is a vile, evil woman who cares not a whit for her nominal raison d’etre.
I hope the NARAL membership finds a way to stage a coup, or better yet, have her put away for fraud and malfeasance.
oh well, at least Afghanistan is going well. They’re now supplying 92 percent of the world’s opium so they have a good export trade going.
And meanwhile the troops are hunkered down in bases and have ceded the southern half of the country…just like…the Soviet Union?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/mar…..lis50.html
seriously?!?! @
84
That’s what we all said about yours – seriously.
(Psst. That was a take down. You gotta get out a little more.)
On cspan Alice Fisher is up for a vote in five minutes.
Here is a link to a post Jane wrote in Jan. ‘06
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..13243.html
Jane Hamsher @
42
Two weeks ago an editorial appeared in our local weekly by a university prof. of journalism chastising pirate glorification and worship, aka. Johnny Depp. Here’s a recent rebuutal by Cp’n Crusty. ‘Slanderin’ pirates, be ye now? Takin’ a shot at us scallywags for our lusty and boiserous ways, and at others fer appreciatin’ us a wee bit to much fer yer likin’? Well, if it’s “revered thuggery” ye be in disfavor of, mayhap ye can take equal aim at ye “Holy” Bible as well, with its high praised genocides and unquestionin’ acceptance of slavery and oppressioon of women. Or if ye shy away from critiquin’ that vicious tome, for offendin’ yer fellow strait-laces, then ye could always point out that ye so-called “legit’ sea-farers of that day were just as blood-thirsty as any sea-wolf: Flogging, for instace, were not the invention of buccaneers but a form of disapline carried over from ye ‘noble officers and gentlemen’ who commanded ye tall ships. Or would ye rather have a go at ye little kiddies, when they dreeses up like wee goblins and devils and sech? Can there be much more evil than gobblins or devils…well, outside o’ye current administration, that is” My recommendation t’ ye, prefessarrrr, would be instead of knockin’ our wild, carefree lifestyle, don yer own wrench costume, hie ye to yer nearest pub, and drink a cup after cup o’ grog, even bellow out a bawdy seachanty or two. In other words, cut loose (or cutlass). Have a ‘good time’-I’m sure youv’e heard of it. Or sech be not t’ yer likin’ then maybe bowl after bowl of bran would be more useful. Eyarrrrr !!
What Naral has done in endorsin’ Joe Lieberman be very tellin’. Senators throughout th’ land now know that they too can oppose abortion an’ still receive th’ much needed votes o’ Naral at election time. Sure, he be thar wi’ his vote fer legislation in order to create a nice n’ fluffy pro-choice aura fer hisself. But when th’ big vote came, he failed lasses big time an` lost any kind o` trust he once was able t` envelope hisself in. Naral has a big set o` cannons–but instead o` gunpowder, `tis loaded wi` cottonballs… I think that Nancy Keenan may share closet space wi’ Joe Lieberman…
Gosh, why doesn’t Patty Duke ever age?
seriously?!?! @ 74
The moderators are quick at taking down comments that appear to be troll stink bombs.
Sometimes a comment with thoughtful disagreement gets spiked. If it happens, please for understand that our crew runs a tight ship — and the plank walk is rarely permanent.
OfT: Here’s an interesting outcome from the Clinton&Bloggers Confab — Dave Johnson is live-blogging the Clinton Global Initiative. Seems like, with The Daily Show and the bloggers, the BigDog’s getting with the 21st century program… thanks, Chelsea!
http://livefromtheclintongloba…..gspot.com/
*ilbo @ 89:
Maybe the cranky professor is one of them Ninjas….
I love that post ilbo!
Pot,meet kettle.
Bush slams Iran for wasting wealth on nuclear quest.
http://today.reuters.com/news/…..ticsNews-2
The exiled Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky has made his first public appearance since being linked with the takeover of West Ham. Berezovsky was at the Emirates Stadium on Sunday in the company of Neil Bush the brother of the US president, George Bush.
http://football.guardian.co.uk…..50,00.html
Bustednuckles @ 96
You hit that nail on the head! What has Georgie been wasting our money on!! Certainly not grog!
“Arrrr. Keenan should walk the plank.”
Is that enough like pirate speak?
Arrr, shall I open the Firedog Bucket o’ Blood Tavern, or has someone beaten me to it?
Surprised nothing has been said about this:
BAGHDAD, Iraq, September 19, 2006 – The chief judge in Saddam Hussein’s genocide trial was replaced Tuesday amid complaints from Shiite and Kurdish officials that he was too soft on the former Iraqi leader, a move that could raise accusations of government interference in the highly sensitive case.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/st…..id=4577586
AZ Matt @ 97
I am suprised he did not reprimand them for wasting money and embryos on very serious stem cell research too……
all because he said Saddam was not a dictator, ccmask.
Off-topic, but Glenn’s latest is worth taking a look at.
Beyond satire
The wingnuts are very upset at Christian terrorists in indonesia getting the death sentence without being given a fair trial–you know, one where they can confront their accusers, see the evidence and be subject to oversight from international judicial bodies.
You can’t make this stuff up.
Oh, somebody tell david gregory that this isn’t hypothetical anymore.
angie @ 102
Just tell him that Iranian stem cells are going nuclear!
Nancy Keenan, is originally from Montana. The NARAL site explicity highlights that in a section called “Red State Roots: Montana Native.”
I don’t have a problem with NARAL emphasizing the “RED STATE” angle. I do have a
very fucking seriousproblem with her sticking by Joe before and AFTER he lost thegoddamnedprimary.I tried looking for a list of NARAL’s Board of Directors, but I could not find anything more recent than 2003.
OT
they sound like joe, they lie about lying. but then again, the lies are not about lying, they are about liars. sort of a lie-ism?
pretty screwy considering a lot of babbling going on and a lot of women without the protection they deserve? this is a sad but typical state of affairs when your politician knocks you up, and the only thing you can get from them is a quiet settlement. You can’t get what the law allows, because the politician only makes the poorly crafted crap laws that let everyone that has a religious handicap get to get out of jail free.
when are we going to outlaw religion so people that are crazy and religious won’t have a fucking thing they can do about other sentient beings?
Maybe Bush should condemn Iran for allowing its government to be dominated by intolerant religious extremists with military designs.
Oops, I forgot…
I got a call from NARAL a couple weeks ago asking for money. I told them that as long as they endorse Joe Lieberman they won’t be getting a dime from me. I told them that I was a board member of CT NOW and helped get NOW PAC to endorse Ned Lamont. The caller thought that NARAL had endorsed Lamont. I told her that they had not and I wouldn’t make a donation until NARAL publicly endorses Ned Lamont.
neurophius @ 108
Then he would have to deal with intolerant religious extremists at the US Air Force Academy, Dobson’s buddies.
neurophius @ 107
It is “unacceptable” for me to even “think” such thoughts.
Free birth control for teenagers in Chile
By Liz Henry, 10:14 am, Fri 15 Sep 2006
The Chilean Ministry of Health, in the government headed by President Michelle Bachelet, now mandates that public health clinics provide free birth control, including emergency contraception, to women over 14.
http://blogher.org/node/10562
Just now catching up on Felix’s latest mess.
Talk about throwing a guy an anvil! Or more specifically, throwing a guy a quarter and having his incompetance turn it into an anvil. Or as a pirate would say, an anchor.
Happy birthday, Tommy, and ahoy to rest of y’all. OT, but related to the previous thread, I got home to find a message from Vic Wulsin on my voicemail. Not a pre-recorded call, but a personal call from the actual candidate, thanking me for my support, saying they had good news about her campaign against Mean Jean, and asking what she could do to better meet any concerns or interests I might have. She left a number to call back, so I did, and asked the nice young man who answered to take a message for Vic from me: “First, thank you for your call. Second, I’m an out of state contributor, so the way for you to meet my interests and concerns is to win, and to help you do that I am about to go straight to the BlueAmerica page and give you more money.” Which I did. The nice young man kept telling me he was sure Vic would like to talk to me personally, but I told him I knew how busy she must be, and assured him it wasn’t at all necessary. He thanked me for my call, I thanked him for his hard work in a great cause, and we hung very pleased with each other.
NARAL should take lessons from the Wulsin campaign. Which brings me back to the topic for this thread: Is there any way Connecticut Choice Voice can be added to the BlueAmerica page? I clicked on the link in your post, Jane, but (after clicking on the link within the link) I didn’t see any “donate” button. (Of course, maybe I just missed it.) I’m probably not the only former NARAL donor who would rather give to them and would appreciate an easy way to do it. Just askin’.
Democracy Now interviewing Maher Arar’s attorney wrt the Syrian-Born Canadian citizen tortured. I love Amy Goodman.
OT, but I had to share it. Sen. Vitter of Louisiana responded to my letter about torture (first time he’s ever written me…well, actually, he addressed it to Mr. H):
this was the message I received back, in August from the National NARAL. appears they do not care at all what Party a prochoicer belongs to, Plus they had told me in another email, Lieberman had explained his comment on “take a ride to another Hospital” to their satisfaction, but never did elaborate !
ccmask @ 115
Is her radio program streamed over the internet?
Prof #21 — you know, I suspect that the reality of troops in the streets of Washington DC is not that far-fetched…but I’m betting we’d see them if the White House asks them to proceed with an assault on Iran. Bet you the top brass would consider taking action to stop it.
And I’d be only to happy to be one of those citizens snapping pictures on the occasion of a mad man’s halt.
Alice Fisher vote
Yea 61
Nay 35
I don’t know Matt. I’m watching it on tv. I really like Link TV.
They also sent around an email request for money, showing they support nancy Johnson !
I sent that one back with a note that i would make my OWN choices where my pro Choice money would go, not them!
AZ Matt– yes, transcripts and everything.
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…..19/1348206
ccmask @ 121
I will check and see. I don’t have a TV.
AZ Matt @ 117
Go to http://www.democracynow.org and see list of stations for streaming.
AZ Matt
http://www.airamerica.com/stations
Joe Lieberman has no problem with women. As long as they know their place.
Joe Lieberman has no problem with women. As long as they love incumbents no matter what.
Cozumel @
119
Coz, is that the woman that’s supposed to be Fitz’s supervisor?
Angie,
Thank you for the link! Good to learn new stuff.
You’re welcome! Amy Goodman is a goddess for real and I read and listen there daily.
Human Rights Watch accuses Jordan of human rights violations surrounding their arrest, detainment and torture of citizens.
This is Bush’s “moderate Arab” nation.
Heckuva job Abdullah.
-GSD
OT – 20,000 U.S. troops injured
-via thinkprogress
UK’s Defense Minister has a Condi Rice moment.
No one could have known the Afghani’s were going to fight back.
-GSD
Speaking of Amy, she has a new book out:
http://tour.democracynow.org/
(just an fyi… whistling and going off to finish making dinner now.)
ifthethunderdontgetya @
93
WOW! The yougsters don’t have much of chance these days. Of course it’s control (craddle to grave) that pumps these stuffshirts up. “Gotta kick theses balheads outta this town,” B. Marley. I caught that Halliglutton hearring yesterday and I’ll tell, if it smells and tastes like treason, it’s the f__k treason. Oh ya, I’m mostly bald. I gotta go for walk, kewl it and all.
http://www.legistorm.com/
Browse congressional staff salaries.
Via http://www.washingtonmonthly.com
Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor, gave a keynote at a conference a friend of mine was at today in St. Paul. His observation sort of sums up the Bushies: My friends said “He started his talk explaining how he used to be 6′2″ but his stay in the Federal government wore him down. He got out before he vanished. And he mentioned how strange it was when the rich in our country have never had so much money, that we passed tax cuts to give them more.”
Just food for thought.
tommy yum @
22
Well then, Happy Birthday!
;>)
oh wow mateys– check this out and then click on the link to the Movie! looks great and I want to host a screening asap!
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0919-29.htm
New thread.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..t/#respond
Que, dude?
I haven’t been around this afternoon, so someone may already have mentioned a recently-posted Raw Story report that a coalition of religious leaders in Connecticut is pushing Lieberman and Dodd to make a public stand against torture.
[ ]
“Torture is a moral issue,” Rev. Allie Perry, a member of the RTPV said in a statement today. “It is also a profoundly religious issue, for it degrades the image of God in each person.”
“Nothing less than the soul of our nation is at stake,” Perry argues, “not to mention the rule of law.”
[ ]
Lieberman was one of five Democrats in the Senate who voted to strip the right to habeas corpus from prisoners at Guantanamo. The group also noted that Lieberman was one of six Democrats who voted in favor of the confirmation of Albert Gonzales as Attorney General.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0919.html
According to Common Dreams, the four other Dems who voted last year against the right of detainees to challenge their detention in federal courts are Ron Wyden OR), Kent Conrad (ND), Mary Landrieu (LA), and Ben Nelson (NE).
Hoping that my recent donation for Marcy’s book will be designated for her.
Per comments/questions at Morning Satire 36 and 43, such donations and regular credit card payments for FDL look the same from our end. Is there some way of differentiating them? Paypal comes thru, how do you know whether it is for the book or not.
That was my main question at 36. At 43 are several suggestions for underwriting the funding of her book.
I hope we can include the snail mail post office box near or in the Marcy info at the top right of the page. It can be asked and answered individually each time someone wants to contribute, but we might make it easier for those who wish to remain anonymous.
Please excuse if these were already answered, I did try to search each thread for egr. It sounded like time was of the essence in raising funds for her publication; please excuse my questioning if there isn’t time to address these small issues at present.
Okay. Sent an email. The national leadership of NARAL is clearly bought and sold and therefore morally bankrupt.
The issue of reproductive choice is about the future of our daughters and the type of country they live in. It’s too important an issue to put in the hands of someone like Ms. Keenan.
Thanks for that link to Naral. Here’s what I sent them:
So Alito and Lieberman are “flaps that will blow over.” Gee,if the Supreme Court overturns Roe vs Wade, is that a flap that will blow over?? Of course–money would still come in to pay your salary. You folks aren’t about women’s rights any more, you’re about playing footsie in Washington and keeping the bucks coming in to feed your organization, a closed loop.
Get real or resign.
Lieberman was one of five Democrats in the Senate who voted to strip the right to habeas corpus from prisoners at Guantanamo. The group also noted that Lieberman was one of six Democrats who voted in favor of the confirmation of Albert Gonzales as Attorney General.
This really burns me up.
Joe Lieberman is no Democrat.
God, this is appalling. We need to find out if the NARAL national board backs Keenan, or if she’s walking this gangplank alone. It’s so dispiriting to see this kind of behavior among “progressives.” Of course, Keenan and national NARAL are not progressive; they seem to have been neatly coopted some time ago. As one of the other posters said, Sierra Club too.
OT– Ahmadinejad addressing the UN now…what a difference from our preznit. He’s making the argument against booooshco.
on cspan2
http://inside.c-spanarchives.o…..hedule.csp
Thanks for the link to NARAL. Here’s what I wrote:
Until I get a good explanation of why NARAL endorsed Joe Lieberman, whose continued campaign threatens the election of three CT Democratic House candidates (by encouraging Republican turnout), whose vote on Alito cloture was not supportive of women’s reporoductive rights, and whose support of Catholic hospitals was callous, I will no longer support NARAL’s fund-raising.
I’ve mentioned this previously but I had a bit of an email debate with Nancy regarding her (NARAL’s) support for Lieberman. It was only 3 or so emails each way, but the thing is She had nothing…no real reason to support Lieberman.
She tried to tell me what he has done for Womans rights but I quite easily countered with his voting record in Parliament, which is where it really counts.
Lieberman is of course going to tell her that NARAL has his support, but this all means nothing if he doesn’t back this up when it matters.
I don’t know what relationship they have or why she or the other national executives of
NARAL have with Lieberman, but she/they either deep down don’t really give a damm about the free choice for woman and only care about her/their position of power and influence and the money they get.
I honestly believe that Nancy Keenan is more concerned about keeping her job than supporting the right person in the houses of Congress.
It’s time NARAL show Nancy Keenan the door.
My email to NARAL-
…I cannot express my disappointment in NARALs continued support for Joe Lieberman when this man has continually and consistently gone against Free Choice for Woman.
His voting record in office is quite the opposite to anyone who I would believe to be supporting womans rights. He voted for 2 of the worst Supreme Court Judges and supports the right wing government in every area.
Yet NARAL still supports him?
The only conclusion that I and my colleagues can come up with is that Nancy Keehan is more concerned about keeping her job (and the big fat Salary that goes with it) than genuinely fighting for Womans Rights and Free Choice.
I have withdrawn all and any support for NARAL and if NARAL continue to back Lieberman I will actively fight against the organisation (NARAL).
The organisation is doing more harm than good by supporting Senators who vote in “Conservative Anti Abortion Judges” and by supporting those that make public statements against Free Choice in the way that Joe Lieberman has.
Telling rape victims to “take a short ride to a different hospital” sickens me and it should have been the end for any support from NARAL for Lieberman.
Local Connecticut NARAL head Carolyn Treiss is doing a fantastic job but her hard work continues to be hampered by the Executive Branch of NARAL.
Dear Jane; you aren’t looking as good in that picture.Is that really you? Take a day off!
I posted a comment here earlier explaining why NARAL is endorsing Lieberman (which mysteriously went from the 61st comment to nowhere to be found). Lamont cannot win, the math does not work. Why spend time attacking a group which agrees with you 99% of the time and go after the Republicans who are the ones truly threatening a woman’s right to choose?
Jane;
NARAL called us this month asking for $upport. We get their on-line newsletter and have supported them in the past.
We told the caller that we were unhappy with NARAL’s support of Joe Lieberman and were not interested in participating.
The volunteer sighed and said she’s “been getting a lot of that” and thanked us before she hung up.
It was a polite conversation and I frankly felt she was both sympathetic and frustrated.
Below is the email I just fired off to Ms. Keenan.
Thanks for keeping me informed.
At age 61, I have to wonder what I fought for all those years ago before Roe v Wade. Now, the organizations we built and bequeathed to our younger sisters are more interested in rubbing elbows with the Washington elite than in protecting the rights they were made for.
I speak now about your unbelievable endorsement of Lieberman and Chaffee, both of which voted for cloture on the Alito nomination. I’ve wracked my brain to try to find a reason why you would do this, but I’ve come up dry.
Joe Lieberman is the man who told rape victims that they could take a short ride to another hospital if the one they were at wouldn’t give them Plan B. This is alright with you? Helping to place anti-choice judges on the Supreme Court is alright with you?
This kind of behavior is why I stopped supporting national organizations in favor of local activists. You’ve obviously become too fond of the cocktail weenies and being on the social “A” list. What a disappointment you are.
Happy Birthday to Tommy Yum! (I loved typing that, what a delicious name. Either a porn star or a spy in Shanghai.)
Also, kudos again to the seriously, deleriously demented DarkBlack for his birthday ode to the Yum man at #138. Check it out. DB is a treasure that should not be hidden.
Also, what should not be hidden is our disdain for the supine sell-out of NARAL by that monumentally moronic Montanan, Nancy Keenan, who would support “Rape Gurney” Joe over Ned Lamont. What a piece of political sluttery by “Red State” Nancy.
Here’s the missive (or missile) I just sent NARAL’s way –
“The purpose of NARAL is great. But its national leadership (i.e., Nancy Keenan) is abysmally stupid. What part of Plan “B” and a “short ride” to another hospital doesn’t she get?
Joe “Rape Gurney” Lieberman refused to support a filibuster against anti-choice Joe Alito for the Supreme Court.
Supporting Lieberman for Senate in Connecticut is a kick in the uterus to every woman in America.”
At 153: “Why spend time attacking a group which agrees with you 99% of the time and go after the Republicans who are the ones truly threatening a woman’s right to choose?”
Because politicians and political organizations respond to pressure. If you fail to exert pressure when they do something stupid and damaging, they don’t respond. Why should they respond? By failing to apply pressure you let them feel as if they never have to suffer any consequences for their stupid and damaging actions.
In politics you have to apply both the carrot and the stick sometimes even to your friends. This is an occasion for applying the stick to NARAL.
I understand that, but from a political standpoint, how does NARAL not endorse Lieberman? He is the incumbent Democrat and will more than likely win in November. To call NARAL leadership “stupid” is both naive and inappropriate. NARAL’s job is to influence Congress on pro-choice issues. They endorse Lamont, he loses and the door to Lieberman’s office is closed forever. They endorse Lieberman, Lamont wins, and they explain they had to endorse the incumbent. It’s standard political process. We might not like how DC runs, but NARAL has to play to win to be effective.
nemo @ 157
Check out http://www.bushandcompany.org– by Connecticut blogger, Elizabeth Gerteiny. Are you CT-based?
I find it very interesting that previous posts have focused on NARAL, but also mentioned planned parenthood. This post is only about NARAL. And what’s in the upper left corner of this blog? A blogad from none other than Planned Parenthood. So, the bashing is targeted at NARAL, while PP does the similar things, but pays for an ad and doesn’t get called out. Interesting…