Did you know Joe Lieberman is all about fighting global warming? Yeah neither did I. But if you go to the newly un-hacked "Joe2006 " blog, you'll see all about his "bipartisan" efforts to address global warming and ride Al Gore's coattails:
Former Vice President Al Gore today delivered an important address on global warming and energy security at NYU, where he called for a bipartisan approach to meeting these critical challenges.
Joe Lieberman issued the following statement in support of Vice President Gore's message of unity and purpose:
"The former Vice-President’s call today for greater bipartisanship to tackle two of the most critical issues facing our nation – climate change and energy security – is an important reminder that progress on almost every difficult and seemingly intractable challenge facing America requires bipartisan leadership.
You know, Kobe's birthday is August 9 and I might decide that it needs to be a national holiday, and I might even get John McCain to agree with me -- assuming he has a soft spot for large black poodles. It has about as much to do with being a "bipartisan" effort as Joe's Global Warming Kabuki:
JOE LIEBERMAN’S BIPARTISAN RECORD ON FIGHTING GLOBAL WARMING
- In the 1990s, Joe was a forceful advocate for engaging the U.S. in international efforts to confront global warming.
- In 1998, Joe joined Senator Chaffee (R-RI) in introducing the first market-based Senate legislation to reduce global warming pollution.
- In 2003, Joe introduced with Senator McCain (R-AZ) the first comprehensive “cap and trade” bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act would reduce U.S. global warming pollution to year 2000 levels by 2010.
- The Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act would create a comprehensive market-based emissions cap and trading program to cut global warming pollution from the biggest U.S. sources at the lowest possible cost.
- The Tellus Institute found that the Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act would create a net increase in U.S. employment – adding 800,000 jobs by 2025.
- Joe and Senator McCain forced the Senate to vote on the bill twice and will continue to fight until the Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act becomes law.
But the "Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act" stands about as much chance of passing as National Kobe Day. What did pass was Dick Cheney's energy bill, which Joe obediently voted for at the behest of his GOP overlords. What did he get for his efforts from his Republican friends in return for reaching across the aisle to vote for a successful bill that called for the absolute devastation of everything he now purports to stand for? Well, er, nothing, because Joe is a chump. They didn't do shit for him because they didn't have to. He rolled over like a dog who didn't even get a hard biscuit for his efforts, just the sheer pleasure he could ignite in his master's eyes.
It should also be noted that while Joe is trying to ride Al Gore's coattails, Gore refuses to endorse Joe.
Will journalists covering the Connecticut race bring these points about Joe's phony bipartisanship to the attention of their readers, or will they slavishly repeat Joe's absurd talking points where he and those close to him reveal they have absolutely no understanding of what the term "bipartisan" actually means?
You too can play the home version of our game, click the "spotlight" button below, select "regional" and "CT" and ask your favorite journalists covering the race if their dictionaries are more up-to-date than Joe's.
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FITZ! spotlight!
In other news, those ratf***ers have got something up their sleeves…
NED!
“Bipartisan” is not latin for “bend over.”
bdu… Gotta do it with some authority buddy! :)
Nate @ 3
I do it tenatively at first, and get more assertive once I know I’m in! :0)
Shiver me Timbers! Hotel minibar keys open Diebold voting machines
by lambertstrether
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/18/135828/718
See my example at comment #2
No sense wasting a good Fitz’ing with all lower case and a question mark at the end of it!
Okay….Al, time to endorse Ned.
would seem to me that just printing newspaper ads showing how the slime have changed their tunes on both iraq and global warming,
and we can show even those that read slowly, that their candidate either did or didn’t flip flop on the issue.
that will show them how their candidate is or isn’t like the meat puppet and his dog dick, liars, or committed to their principles.
osama has always been a friend of oceania
Nate @ 6
hit reload ;0) I edit after seeing that it made a 0, lest I steal someone else’s cathartic thunder.
I swear, I can’t do spotlight Ct. I put in Regional, type in CT, then what?
bdu @ 5
Fair enough!
Hey everyone, RawStory ran a piece on Santorum and how the GOP is now targeting Rosie O’Donnell (WTF?). The article has a fantastic ending about the CT Election and Joe doesn’t even merit a mention!
Can anyone else feel Joe fading into oblivion?
Sounds like a real meeting of the minds you’ve found there, bdu. I can almost imagine the lights dimming and minor demon appearing as a spot of ever-growing darkness in the corner. “Soon, my pretties, soon, you shall be able to wear your true forms in daylight! None of this walking around in monkeysuits anymore, but you will be able to spread your bat wings and let your forked tongues lick the tears of children you so readily damn!” And then they writhe on the floor in ecstacy at the oncoming arrival of their day.
Maybe I’ve read too much of the Rude Pundit.
ccmask, hit “Update” after you type in CT and select “Regional.”
JohnCasper- Okay. I lost my “Spotlight For Dummies” pamphlet…..
ccmask @
6
ccmask… CNN has been hitting this story hard today. http://youtube.com/watch?v=JxKnlgvlwBY Veredictum got it loaded up to YouTube fast.
I’m still stoked I got the TRex link on it two days ago! Nearly went to my head. Pretty soon I’ll be getting Wolcott links too and then I’ll be insufferable!
Want a breath of fresh air?
Support Gore for president!
Great ad! Tight. It moves, it stays on point, very hiqh quality production, WOW!
mmr @ 12
Or maybe they’re just getting a strategy briefing re: terrorists @ gitmo and aggression towards Iran, so that they can start setting the terms before the big administration push.
Oklahoma kiddo @
17
I’ll be happy to provided he runs and as long as he keeps throwing haymakers at those who would claw at the underbelly of this great Nation.
Karen Hughes on Hardball. Whew. This person is…….?
bdu @
1
If Rush had bothered to show up, the White House might have had their own Tittygate, hmmm?
And where are all the bloviators of color? That’s an awfully lily-white group of gasbags, if you ask me.
;>)
John Casper @ 18
I agree John. Very tight and to the point with just a hint of humor that only illustrates the point rather than diluting it.
By the way folks… I am now in the Campaign Commercial / Attack Ad production business. Check out my first go at it this weekend with a simple PC and an $80 video editing program with content available online.
John Doolittle - Supporter of Forced Abortions and Sex Slavery!
For those of you who haven’t tried it, I highly recommend producing your own attack ad. It is so therapeutic I couldn’t believe it. I’m going to save a fortune on pshrinks! :)
BTW, Jane, as hard as it is to believe, this really is Joe’s answer to the question in your last post. The “McCain-Lieberman Climate Stewardship Act” was one of the two signature accomplishments the WaPo cited in their editorial endorsing Lieberman. Of course, while they didn’t mention that it hadn’t actually passed, they were honest enough to describe his bipartisan “success” as “moving legislation forward” rather actual legislative accomplishments.
Personally, I don’t consider being given a self-esteem trophy by the Republicans to be a “bipartisan accomplishment.”
The October Surprise!
-GSD
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
unqualified for the job, a bushbot, insane, irritating? take your pick!
Jane,
“It should also be noted that while Joe is trying to ride Al Gore’s coattails, Gore refuses to endorse Joe.”
Hmmm…wrt to Gore’s refusal, that seems to me a bit like kissing your sister.
I’d rather hear that Gore has endorsed and supports the winner of the CT Dem primary, Ned Lamont.
Real Democrats lead by example.
Speak up Al baby! If the Big Dawg can do it, so can you!
darkblack @ 21
Good point, I hadn’t even considered that this might be King George’s response to the blogger “Come to big dawg” moment.
GSD @ 25
GSD, I’m an ex-submariner and I still live in Pearl Harbor. Orders have already gone out. The US is preparing a naval blockade of Iran!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
. . . The Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs, much to the chagrin of the career diplomats and public affairs people at the State Department.
Also, and more importantly, she’s Bush’s favorite female political operative.
GSD @ 24
ARGH! I guess I can’t wait til I hear what the preznit has to say tomorrow and what the President of Iran says… I should just go ahead a bust a vessel or two now, huh?
Wonderful Nate! I like the way the pages flip up. Good ad. Just like the pros!
Nate @ 19
I think Gore is running. Hard. The other day he said he would not rule out a run. He knows 2000 was rigged. His movie and his latest speech, talking about suspending payroll taxes, targets the Democratic base. More “haymakers”, as you so aptly put it, are some of what’s needed.
mmr @
13
Maybe I haven’t read *enough* of the Rude Pundit…
ccmask @ 32
Thanks ccmask! I’m really happy with it. I’m going to start cranking them out. I’m leaving my island paradise here (after 15 years) and moving to CA to work full-time on the Charlie Brown campaign. For those of you who don’t know, he has now pulled into a statistical dead heat with that corrupt Abramoff imp, John Doolittle.
And he’s done this in a district that is referred to as the most conservative district in CA that Bush won 2 years ago with 65% and Doolittle won with 63%. That’s major!
New Poll here
I have this fantasy: Rosie O’Donnell is Georgie Bush’s jailer.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 36
Cindy Sheehan.
Nate @ 35
More conservative than Bill Thomas’ district in Kern County? I find that difficult to believe…
BC
Nate @ 29– I desparately hope you’re wrong, but I have the sinking suspicion that you’re correct.
gah.
Just thinking about it makes me… I don’t even have a word for it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
Did you see that 90s movie where she played a dominatrix?
Oh, I think I just made myself queasy.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
Henry Waxman and John Conyers with subpeona powers are probably more threatening to Dubya.
The carpet bombing of Iran will not begin until after the elections, but I’d bet a thousand Yuan that the crucial vote in congress–the one where Democrats hide in the corner–will come before.
Eli @ 36
Both of them!
“The people are stupid; lie your ass off and they’ll nod their heads go and vote like good little sheep.”
So Joe is using, no, embracing the core Republican campaign strategy: lie outrageously, constantly, and in the face of obvious facts to the contrary.
What an idiot.
After getting his ass kicked in the primary you’d think he would have figured it out by now, wouldn’t you? Sheesh!
But seriously, we like to snark at this stuff around here, but when I let myself think about all this lying through their hats shit, having the electronic media parrot the lies and the print media ignore the newsworthyness that an elected leader is stating an outrageous lie, and…it just pisses me off! How can this happen? I should be used to it by now…and I just can’t get over it. Argh!
(Speaking of print media, didja’ see that David Giffen is reported as offering $2B cash for the LA Times? Man.)
bdu @ 40
Exit To Eden! With Dan Aykroyd!
Yes. Yes, I did see it. In fairness, it was the 90s, when I watched literally everything on cable.
If the bombing starts before the election, there may not be an election.
mmr @ 39
I wish I was wrong too mmr but the sub community is a tight community and I’m still close with some of my old shipmates. They know where they’re going and what they’re doing. You can’t hide stuff like this in the day of instant communications.
The only way it will not happen is world pressure on the US. It’s probably why the EU is meeting with Iran now, WITHOUT the US there intentionally. Bushco is determined to drive our nation into a wall and with the approaching elections, they probably figure the only way they can stop the Congress from going Democratic is a new war. Or at least a new fake-cowboy tough-guy routine flexing military muscle.
These @ssholes won’t be happy until they get WWIII
ccmask @ 46
maybe we’re looking at marshall law and this same congress and administration continuing indefinitely???
so the elections are not really important to the neocons???
Exit To Eden! With Dan Aykroyd!
The movie sucked but the book, written by Ann Rice (as Ann Rampling)before she got bit by the vampire bug, was, ummm, quite steamy. The casting was awful and the treatment was about 180 from the book’s intent, which was a somewhat serious look at dominitation and submission. Not that I know anything about that!
Eli @ 45
I saw it because the book was hot and Dana Delany was in it. I can’t remember it but I do recall that by the time I turned it off I was ready to kill everyone involved.
GSD @
25
What can we do to stop such madness - ????
you know Nate, for a measly 7% of their total media buys, the DCCC will take that beaut off your hands*g*
and did ya know the congressman is on the National Right to Life Honor Roll ?
maybe some of y’all could join me in going over there and asking them just how that could be
http://www.nrlc.org/contact.html
Nate @
47
Yay, figured out quoting.
Is it possible that this is being used as is suggested in the Newsmax article, as a potential chip on the bargaining table? Ie, right now, Iran might be getting ‘uppity’ (thinking they can, you know, be their own nation or something) and so, with all of our strength around the place, they might be needing something, anything, to suggest that they’re’s a military option?
Could it be a bluff? Please let it be a bluff?
Sometimes, the only way I think we can get out of this mess is to impeach Bush, and then say to the rest of the world, “We fucked up, and we need help. We’ve got to make this country right again, and that means contracts to whoever sends troops. Guaranteed. Oil revenues go to the highest bidder, we just want out.” I wonder if that would work.
ok, maybe I didn’t figure out quoting. whoops.
Peterr @ 41
YES! Conyers and Waxman are coming for George. Not too long after January. After the Democrats legitimately take the Congress this autumn. Cheney, Rove and Bush know this. Perhaps these three could hide out in Saudi Arabia. With their oil buddies.
bdu @
1
This appears to be a response to the Clinton/NetRootz meeting. Do you think ChuckleFuck gives one hoot about what these people think?
It don’t hunt.
how do you say chokepoints in Mandarin ?
Nate @ 35
Good for you, Nate! I contributed a few dollars to Mr. Brown, and I sure hope you guys win.
newspaperbrat @ 51
Nothing. They have absolute power. You could move to another country, but Bush would probably bomb it.
Uma Thurman (Kill Bill 1 & 2) knows chokepoints and maybe we should give her a call, cbl!
(Just watched them both again this past weekend. yyeeeeeaahh!)
newspaperbrat @ 51
Get a Guy Fawkes mask…
I am afraid that the US is officially a rogue state.
All that shit we have been cavalierly doing to others………it always makes its way back home.
-GSD
GSD @ 62
yep and uncivilized and immoral, too. ;(
Mark Steckel @ 60
“Remember remember the fifth of november gunpowder, treason and plot…”
GSD @ 62
And I think America pissed away its international goodwill when it re-elected Dubya even after knowing what he was about.
If we let his Congress stay in power, it’ll only get worse. The international community is looking for a sign, any sign that we repudiate these bastards.
Nate @
29
Ya see Dubya does have an answer for global warming. It’s called Nuclear Winter. Bomb an operating nuclear reactor or two then sit back and see who does what in response. Sure he’s insane but it just might work.
J. Donne @ 59
So maybe I need a tinfoil hat, but this is why I thought Michael Gerson has decided to go work for the Post now. It seems to me that since they lost Judy at the times they need someone to beat the war machine from the paper. Maybe a collumnist is too risky, so hey just get the architect of a few little beauties like “the smoking gun in the form or a mushroom cloud” and “axis of evil”, to be an op-ed writer. Hell, he certainly is qualified since he was a chief speech writer for Bush and a loyal member of the White House Iraq Group should be a great addition to the paper and why he is there he can inform us about why it is so important to invade Iran. Just a theory…o.k. y’all can remove your hats now :)
Should we be worried about a mineshaft gap?
We are the ones who are at the crest of the wave watching this unravel.
Most people will be shocked, not us.
-GSD
GSD @ 62
The worst part is these fucking idiots
wouldn’t know military strategy if it walked up and introduced itself!
Thats why iraq is such a mess,and Afghanistan too.
Good news!
AFSCME’s retracted its Liebster endorsement and come over to Ned. Story here.
Leave it to the working class to see the limits of bipartisanship in an administration that includes labor unions among our national security threats.
The Lamont endorsement comes on top of others from SEIU and UAW. Joe retains his lock on the buggy whip, whalebone corset, and cast iron plow makers’ unions.
jmba @ 67
The sad part is, I don’t even need to wear my hat anymore. Look, the spin is now: “check out those brown Muslims– they are fulfilling the Pope’s prophecy and he was right!” Gerson is the author of the axis of evil speech and I am quite sure he is the loyal syncophant who inserted the “crusades” into dubya’s speech, we are in the “third awakening” acc to the preznit and we have Jesus Kampfs for kkkiddies.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 58
Thanks!
If you have a “few dollars more” check out the post I have right under my Campaign Ad. :)
/shamelessness (end)
J. Donne @ 59
A good reason to Travel soon?
Sometimes I like the lighter stuff even though it has a deep message.
angie- Saw that Jesus kiddie camp clip on Huffpo….scary stuff. Seems a little too Hitler youth brigade to me. But as scary as it is I really do think it should fall under the category of child abuse, making kids worship a picture of W. What-up with that????
cspan 1 now replaying Webb/Allen debate from today wherein Webb stomps Allen.
imho.
The Edward R. Olbermann show has just started.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
A Mom!
jmba @ 75
I think those parents and that preacher should be sent to gitmo for some re-education. Scary as hell.
Less OT than usual
Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 9/18/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 2 states
$2.80 plus 5 states
$2.70 plus 5 states
$2.60 plus 4 states
$2.50 plus 9 states
$2.40 plus 7 states
$2.30 plus 11 states
$2.20 plus 5 states
$2.10 plus 2 states
Average national price: $2.495, down $.059 from 9/15/06
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.239
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.190
Nymex Crude Future $63.80, up $.47 from 9/15/06
Dated Brent Spot $62.63, up $.87
WTI Cushing Spot $63.80, up $.47
Gas prices have declined about 17.8% since they plateaued at around $3.035 in the August 6-11 period compared to today’s average. Oil was around $76/bbl in early August and has fallen around 15% over the same time period. While the declines appear similar, they are only loosely linked. Gas prices began their fall at the same time and despite the fact that a lot of expensive oil was still in the pipeline. Gas also began to decline a month before Labor Day and the usual end of summer downturn, and well before the end of the hurricane season. In part, both oil and gas prices are responding to a cooling US economy but at least half of the decline in oil has been due to lessening speculative pressures (Iran, Lebanon) unrelated to the US economy’s performance. Changing driving habits, poor inventory management, and perhaps some manipulation explain most of the remaining discrepancy between the two.
Nate @ 73
I like this one, too… I had to rewind the tivo the first time I caught it on the (I’d say tube, but my tv doesn’t have one) big glass heater.
Keith O will be giving another “special commentary” tonight toward the end of Countdown.
angie @ 76
Most in the audience said they had already decided who they will support, but two undecided voters said they came away more impressed with Webb.
That’s what Webb needs to do…get the undecideds.
Keith Olbermann’s blog is missing from MSNBC site.
Over the past few days there have been reports that Bush is about to announce a U-Turn in his global warming (lack of)policy. If he does, any bets on who Joe will side with - Bush or Gore?
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 83
yeehaw! and the Reagan democrats and the military (huge)!
Haven’t got through the comments yet so sorry if I repeat. Bipartisanship for Joe means backstabbing Democrats and sucking up to Republicans. In this, his pre-primary record and post-loss independent run show that at least he’s being consistent.
BTW, did anyone catch that the Lieberman quote uses “climate change” which is the White House’s preferred terminology and not global warming which is tied to the Gore reference?
Patrick Kennedy @ 85
If Bush did a true U-Turn, the question would be academic.
bdu @ 1
Ye gods and little panther tracks!!! (to quote one of my mother’s more colorful expressions of dismay…) There’s such a rich and deep vein of weasel shit here I don’t even know where to begin. However, now that we may have some of their battle plans we should be all over counteracting them. My personal favorite?? I guess I’ll go with Mr. Boortz and his meditation: “[H]ow incompetent, how ignorant, how worthless is an adult that can’t earn more than the minumum wage?” What an absolutely iconic statement. For me it perfectly sums up the whole “compassionate conservative” thing.
As for Joe, there’s really only one thing to say: “Have you no shame, sir?”
op99 @ 78
I’m a Dad!
LindyH @ 84
Here is a link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
WTF? Why is the pope apologizing? Isn’t he infallible?
jmba @ 91
I found the special comment. Thanks for the link. But his blog is usually listed under “Blogs, etc.”
angie -lol
of course I was referring to chokepoints as a way of referring to the Chinese - and their now precious energy futures
seriously, I know they’re both incompetent and insane, but do they really think the BILLION PEOPLE in China (and the billions more who trade with them) are gonna let them do anything that “meddles with the primal forces of nature” ? The People’s Liberation Army loosely numbers 3.25 million - jes sayin’
oh yeah Dick, bring it !
OT– Allen just bombed with Macaca and his momma from Tunisia.
Very irritated by the question about his Jewish rootz. Momma was raised, as far as I know, as a Christian.
A reminder and sorry if already mentioned I have been at one with nature (collecting paw paws) on this fine afternnon. HBO Goldwater show on tonight.
jmba @ 82
NBC Nightly News did a promo about it. First time I’ve ever seen that
Wow… new link up at HuffPo. Looks like someone in CT got the spotlight Kobe sent… Joe is gonna gnash his teeth when he sees this!
http://www.journalinquirer.com.....&rfi=6
op99 @ 91
He’s only infallible when he says he’s infallible. He has to be speaking ex cathedra. If he just says “yummy delicious Dominos pizza” is not official Church doctrine!
$5 says that Lieberman just has a Google alert set for whenever the news uses the word “bipartisan” so he can pipe up with “me too! me too!”
tommy yum @
3
I’m using that, Tommy.
Eli #88 - I think we can confidently say a Bush global warming plan will be nothing like a Gore global warming plan.
Colbert says that if Lierberman loses again he’s gonna start his own Senate.
I’m a sister!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 90
From Karen’s “I’m a Mom” Listening Tour of the Mideast:
Patrick Kennedy @ 102
I was just saying that if Bush *really* made a U-turn on his global warming stance, he’d have to end up pretty much where Gore is.
Of course, everything Dubya says is a lie, so it’ll probably be a a 45-degree turn in favor of *more* fossil fuels.
jmba @
75
found a clip myself, on DKos. They’ve had an ad up for about the last week… DKos didn’t run ads for Path to 9/11, did they? wonder why they’ve let this stuff up…
*ilson46201 @ 99
Oh. Now that makes sense. Mweehee.
Kelven @
98
Kelven. In addition to cleter, you have made my day.
*ilson:
Wait a minute here! “Yummy delicious Dominos pizza” is not official Church doctrine? Are you sure about that?
From Bloomberg
Both W and Ahmadinejad are in NYC today. W is refusing to speak to Ahmadinejad. Cause, you know, that would require diplomacy.
karen allen @ 110
Papa John Paul’s.
White House To Revise Terror Proposal
http://apnews.myway.com//artic.....JAVO0.html
I don’t see why the WH doesn’t just agree to whatever Graham-McCain-Warner want.
Chimpy can get out the crayons for a signing statement immediately after it’s signed.
But…but…Domino and pizza are Latin words..
Anyone who thinks we’re not going to invade Iran before Bush is out of the White House might want to look at this:
http://www.amconmag.com/2005a/.....icle3.html
Bear in mind, this is from August of 2005 and is from American Conservative Magazine. Are we all creeped out yet? (Glad I could pull this one out of my tired old brain… I keep hard copies of stuff like this in my office, but I’m at home now… Maybe I’m not quite as senile as I thought!)
How about Eggs Benedict? Would that qualify?
karen allen @ 116
Chicken Pot Pius.
Yes, I’m going to Hell.
Hugh #80 — any chance you have a break down on gas prices by state?
Michigan is all of sudden at $2.18/gal this afternoon.
And I suspect it’s got to do with Dick DeVos now lagging Gov. Jennifer Granholm…
Haven’t checked out the other House Rep. races — the multiple DeLay-Abramoff bagmen all running for their offices. Would guess they are not in double-digit leads over Dems if the gas prices are this low.
Wanna’ bet that gas prices are lowest in states with seats where races are tighest?
Poor Eli’s been missing Punaise something fierce, and good ol’ Karen Allen steps in to fill the void!
Eli, you are on a (pizza) roll tonight!
karen allen @ 121
I’m in the calzone.
op99 @ 120
‘Cuz we’re annoid by the void.
I’m pretty sure that “yummy delicious Dominos pizza” was in fact Church doctrine, until the Vatican II Conclave, when Pope John XXII changed it to “it’s not delivery, it’s DiGiorno.”
BTW Meta–what’d I do? Was it the crack about Balrogs?
If Punaise is lurking tonight, he is biting through the ropes tying his wrists together, desparate to type.
angie @ 60
Me, I just saw them for the first time. Woof! They’re going to do the Kill Bill Marathon again on Thursday evening, at least in my market. Who knew Kwai Chang Caine would turn bad??!!
Cathedra is one of my favorite word histories. It means chair and can be found in words like cathedral because that’s where the bishop had his chair. Latin words got hugely beaten up by the French over the centuries and what was left afterwards was mostly the initial and tonic syllables. The ka sound became cha in certain dialects which is how we got cattle and chattel. Anyway, cathedra became chaire in French and chair in English. But if I recall in about the 14th century, Parisians thought it was classy to pronounce z sounds like r. As happens, fashions change and people went back to pronouncing their intervocalic s’s like z’s and while they were doing that they hypercorrected chaire to chaise. I’m not sure exactly when it was but the French had these nifty divans which they called chaise longue or long chair. The English liked these chairs and corrected the obvious misspelling and that’s how we got the chaise lounge.
General Election all 50 States:
1 month, 18 days, 22 hours, 18 minutes, and 42 seconds
George FELIKKKX Allen will be out of work soon afterward…
Domino’s pizza is a favorite for the Church! Owner is heavily anti abortion.
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/domino.asp
cleter @
124
I thought your ‘crack about Balrogs’ was spot on. Especially the part about them being intelligent, and having enormous Schwanstuckers.
Hugh @ 127
So… “ex cathedra” means the Pope is sitting on the floor?
As God is my witness, if I ever open a pizza parlor, I swear I will name it Papa John Paul’s. Either that, or Cheeses Crust. And you, Eli, can eat there for free.
I think Monaghan sold Domino’s, didn’t he? Eli, here’s your straight line.
cleter @ 132
ROTFLMAO!
cleter @ 132
Thanks, cleter. You could just call one of your pizzas “Cheeses Crust”, and have it both ways.
Rayne,
I use
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
In Michigan, the average cost of regular gas today given here was $2.303.
Just need a bit of reassurance tonight — had been reading that Webb did pretty good in both of his recent debates against Allen, but on Hardball they were all atwitter about Allen ahead of Webb and that Webb was gainin but no longer. That last was according to the ‘know-it-all’ Fineman, so who knows.
Is Webb still behind Allen pollwise?
now you see why I picked Dominos as the Papal Pizza … personally I boycott that brand for the same reasons …
op99 @ 92
Only when he speaks “ex cathedra.” The rest of the time, he’s just a butthead…
Balrog @ 130
Glorfindel isn’t on this thread, is he? ‘Cause Glorfindel killed a Balrog at the Battle of Gondolin. It might not be safe to have you both on the same thread. Messy.
*ilson46201 @ 138
I coulda sworn the Papa John’s guy was the same kind of nut - wasn’t he the one who wanted to create some kind of freaky fundamentalist Catholic enclave?
Hugh at 127..always love a little etymology here..thanks…
The Turncoat ad is brilliant. Might turn out to be as effective as the Kiss Float. The weather is getting cooler-gotta wear a coat-might as wear it TURNED inside out! Expect it to catch on in Connecticut.
Lamont is an appealing person, especially backed up with his supporters, “We approve this message.”
Eli @ 131
Or that he is a former chair or that he is speaking “from the chair”.
Hugh @ 127
So why are those pews so f*cking hard, Perfesser Smartypants? BTW, thank you for correcting my doubly execrable French this afternoon. I’m so ashamed. ;)
Monaghan created the Ave Maria University in Florida with a conservative Catholic new town to go with it…
cleter @
124
How soon we forget, cleter!
Crossposted at Kos, Webb slays Allen’s neocon dream to invade yet another country:
Iran? Webb: We have no more troops.
Buried in the coverage of this debate was an aside that speaks the truth: in response to the issue of sending troops into Iran, Webb said We have no troops. We are depleted. People are on their 3rd or 4th tours. They are exhausted.
Has this concept made it into the blogs or the corporate media?
WE HAVE NO MORE TROOPS. BUSH HAS DEPLETED THEM.
God forbid we should have an actual military emergency. Well at least we hae the Reserves and the National Guard…ooops.
egregious of firedoglake
cleter @ 140
Nah, that’s old partisan nastiness. I’m very proud of my ability to reach across Kazad Dum to work with others.
Eli @ 141
I think it’s the Domino’s guy that wanted the freaky enclave. Which, I believe, was to be in Florida. I could be wrong about that. Not being a pope, I am not infallible–not even when I’m sitting on the floor.
http://www.TurncoatJoe.com lest we forget !
KO’s commentary is up.
Anyone know - what is the follow-up to these hearings on war profiteering? Other than being snubbed by the Republican Trifecta? Oh, and what does Short Ride think of the information spilling out of them?
*ilson46201 @ 146
Okay, I think that was what I was thinking of. Dunno where I got the Papa John’s thing from, but I wouldn’t have come up with “Papa John Paul’s” otherwise, so perhaps it was God’s will.
meta @ 147
Oh, the Feingold thing. Right-wing dude afeard of Feingold. Right?
Speaking of “boots on the ground” Our own Nate needs help so he can get his worker bee boots stateside for some real grassroots work. Get over to his site and ‘chip in’ for Nate!
http://getintheirface.blogspot.com/
LindyH @ 151
He’s on fire!
karen allen @ 110
Absolutely. The official Vatican pizza is “Papa” John’s. Which means, in Italian, Pope John’s…. Sorry… I just couldn’t stop myself…
I don’t know if this has been mentioned here yet as I haven’t been able to read everything today, but this appeared in the newspaper version of the Hartford Courant in the “Other Opinion” section:
Unfortunately none of this was available on the net, so I had to type it from the paper. The Republican candidate Alan Schlesinger is also included.
As a humorous side-note, I noticed a home on Whitney Ave. in Hamden that once had a Lieberman sign has now switched to Schelisinger sign. Frankly, he’s a pretty good speaker. I’d love to see him suck more votes away from Lieberman.
But, damn, that’s some high-powered media interested in this debate.
GrandmaJ @ 137
Yes he is by 4-5 points, but now money is coming in for Webb since Timmeh’s show… the RRRacist has mucho bucks. It is tight and I saw the same show on Hardballs and can understand your discomfiture, but if money keeps coming in for Webb I really don’t see how Allen can win. They were referrin’ to the swiftboating female fatale ads by Allen’s campaign influencing the “wimmin” in Virginia. I tend to think that in Virginia with its very big military moms population, Webb wins over the single ladies in NOVA that Tweety was talking about.
Marion in Savannah @ 139
somebody linked to Justin Raimondo’s Monday essay at antiwar.com in the late night thread. Here’s the entire section if B-17’s statement about this:
“I was reminded of all this recently, when I read the edition by professor Theodore Khoury (Muenster) of part of the dialogue carried on – perhaps in 1391 in the winter barracks near Ankara – by the erudite Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus and an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and the truth of both.
“It was probably the emperor himself who set down this dialogue, during the siege of Constantinople between 1394 and 1402; and this would explain why his arguments are given in greater detail than the responses of the learned Persian. The dialogue ranges widely over the structures of faith contained in the Bible and in the Koran, and deals especially with the image of God and of man, while necessarily returning repeatedly to the relationship of the ‘three Laws’: the Old Testament, the New Testament, and the Koran.
“In this lecture I would like to discuss only one point – itself rather marginal to the dialogue itself – which, in the context of the issue of ‘faith and reason,’ I found interesting and which can serve as the starting point for my reflections on this issue.
“In the seventh conversation (’dilesis’ – controversy) edited by professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the jihad (holy war). The emperor must have known that sura 2:256 reads: ‘There is no compulsion in religion.’ It is one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under [threat]. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Koran, concerning holy war.
“Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the ‘Book’ and the ‘infidels,’ [the Emperor] turns to his interlocutor somewhat brusquely with the central question on the relationship between religion and violence in general, in these words: ‘Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.’”
Raimondo notes an historical error in the Pope’s commentary, and an error in the English translation of what the Pope said.
Interesting essay, to say the least.
http://antiwar.com/justin/
Jane Hamsher @ 100
I looked it up! It’s Greek for “two-face!”
GrandmaJ @ 137
A Mason Dixon poll conducted on September 10th shows Sen. Allen leading his Democratic challenger, Jim Webb, 46% to 42%. The margin of error is /-4 points. A September 13th SurveyUSA poll commissioned by WUSA-TV shows Allen leading Webb by three points, 48% to 45%. That poll is also within the margin of error.
Those are the last two polls. The pro Allen camp is claiming it shows Webb has not been able to move forward since August (when he got into the 40’s after the Macaca incident). Pretty scanty fare to be feeding on, imho.
Go, Keith!
Keith O asks for apology from Bush!
If I was an incumbent Republican senator in a relatively red state, I wouldn’t crow about only being 3 points ahead of my challenger. But only because I’d be too busy shoveling graft into my bribe-hole with my greasy fists, as fast as I could. Snort! Snort! Oink!
as God is my waitress, Cheeses Crust is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day!
Give Pizza Chance . . .
Olbermann rules!
Maroon!
it’s so cool hearing a TV newscast quoting Voltaire !
Bustednuckles @
70
Even so, the suggestion of a naval blockade puts Georgie in the driver’s seat, all the while posturing as a passenger. Easy to escalate without making it look like we started it. Gulf of
TonkinPersia Incident, anyone?What’s Keith Olbermann’s email again? I need to send some thanks to that guy…
LindyH @
152
Over the Top Wow. His best work.
cbl @ 167
You should see the company logo I drew one time, when I was sort of tipsy.
mmr @ 172
Here’s one
countdown@msnbc.com
cbl @ 167
The breakfast menu could feature Holy Toast.
Hugh @ 127
Wonderful exposition! Also, as an old bishop once mentioned in his sermon (delivered from his “cathedra” in front of the congregation) it’s also very practical because old men get stiff and need to sit down after a while….
Thanks Angie re the Webb polls and Hardball.
Locally, here in MN the attacks ads against Amy Klobachar. She is running for Dayton’s senate seat against Kennedy. First they simply talked about Amy being a lawyer and that D.C. did not need any more lawyers. But that he (Kennedy) was a C.P.A. Screamed at the screen ‘then why didn’t you get your C.P.A. butt busy and stop the raid on the Treasury. But heck, Kennedy is not big on the details.
angie @ 129
in the US we get pissed at ABC/Disney and write letters … in Hungary folk are burning down the main TV station for political reasons … just sayin’
Kids, don’t try this at home!
ET, redshift linked to the entire Pope speech
“I read the Pope’s entire speech (http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=94748), and I have to say I don’t think much of Justin’s defense. I read it because I had been thinking “why doesn’t the Pope just say that he was quoting a 14th-century emperor, not stating the position of the modern Church”? And from the speech, the answer appears to be because he doesn’t believe that. Yes, it’s a theological speech about the Hellenistic influence on Christianity, but the major thrust is that by lacking or trying to offset that influence, Islam, Protestantism, and scientific rationalism arrive at views that are wrong. (The speech was particularly insulting the scientifically minded, btw, but that’s no surprise.)
I don’t think much of Justin’s subtitle, either. “The Catholic Church is an enemy of the War Party” may be in general true, but that doesn’t excuse this speech. The point of this wasn’t to be anti-war any more than it was to be anti-Islam, and an awful lot of the quotes “in defense” come from John Paul II, not Benedict.”
(all redshift)
Olberman e-mail address
KOlbermann@msnbc.com
Interesting that during the NBC evening news with Brian Williams, NBC did a spot ad for Countdown noting he would have a comment. First time I ever saw them promote him.
NBC seems to be on roll. Matt Lauer, Olberman, David Gregory, Brian Williams. They seem less afraid to take them on.
WOO HOO Olbermann!
I”m going to call my mom to so she can pass the word to the other wild-eyed radical liberals at her retirement community to catch him tonight here on the left coast. I heard him on the early edition they run.
remember, my money is on the October surprise being the sinking of a U.S. Navy ship… shrubya is wanting to provoke something…
Gosh darnit! Both of my posts tonight are grammatically challenged. So sorry. Hopefully you can figure out what I was trying to say. Can’t blame my typing fingers for grammatical errors. Just a tired brain.
cbl @ 167
Oh, please, stop! I’m about to pull something! HOWLING with laughter, here…
Arianna on Scarborough.
Hungary:
BUDAPEST, Hungary (CNN) — Thousands of protesters rallied outside Hungary’s parliament and set fire to the headquarters of the state television network early Tuesday after the country’s prime minister admitted lying to voters “throughout the past one and a half or two years.”
————-
When our leaders admit that they’re dirty rotten liars, we reelect them…
OS @ # 181,
I’ve been following B-17 since he gave a speech years ago in Munich railing against the degradation of music in the mass ordinary of progressive parishes and dioceses. He proposed something along the lines of re-convening the Council of Trent.
That is WAY retro, OS!
GrandmaJ,
I’ve been looking for you to give you a ((((hug)))). You must be really good at making lemonade by now.
Sending love and healing thoughts your way. hang in there.
Ed*ard Teller #161,
I expect he had the time.
Old Sow and ET– Justin is just wrong in my opinion and so be the Pope. :O
Like I said days ago, John Paul II must be writhing… and cursing Ratzinger and wishing he could put him back in his…er, place.
fyi– Ann Richards memorial service on cspan 1 now– I heard Liz Smith deliver her eulogy earlier today and she was quite, ahem– funny!
Marion in Savannah @ 187
Agreed. 707070707.
*ilson46201 @ 180
And in Mexico
Women March to the Zocalo Against Governor and Take Over Channel 9 Studios
http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article1990.html
That IS way retro, ET!
I’d say Heaven Help Us but I’m just not sure now.
Angie, after actually reading the transcript of the Pope’s speech, I know that what he said and implied is inflammatory. Justin is not right.
OldCoastie @ 185
The Vermont, probably…
op99 @ 193
I agree. It is definitely worthy of a spew alert.
GrandmaJ @ 185
grammatical errors…that’s what grammas make, right?
A bit off-topic, but not by much. Bob Ney won’t take the hint.
Why does Ney’s hair in this picture look like he made it out of the family cat?
angie @ 192
like I said, angie, B-17 is WAY retro. I have no soft spot in my heart for him, nor for the late JP-2. One sounds like a bombing aircraft, the other like fuel for one. I’m no theologian, anyway. I’m a band director - at least for a while still:
Director resigns from band to save it from friction
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska.....2433c.html
Eureka Springs, AR @ 195
Well, I’ll agree that burning down the TV station is something we should NOT try at home…. But picketing the local TV folks??? Hmm… isn’t there something that was once written about peaceful assembly and redress of grievances… Nah, must have been an opium dream I once had, along with that damsel with a dulcimer…
LindyH @ 199
No Gramma Left Behind… The Next New White House Initiative…
montag @ 200
Wait… you’ve seen pictures where it doesn’t?
remember the ‘reflagging’ of Kuwaiti tankers during Iran/Iraq war ? if so, then you remember USS Samuel Roberts backed over an ‘Iranian planted’ mine, we responded with Operation Praying Mantis where we took out a bunch of Iranian fleet(some in the Rainbow Six crowd crow about it as if it were Midway) but of course, the USS Vincennes was included in the battle group - and that is the US ship that ‘mistakenly’ downed an Iranian airliner filled with civilians, blaming it on their shiny new AEGIS weapons/targeting system that had not been battle tested . . .
cbl @ 167
LOL cbl! This is the funniest!
Isn’t B-17 a 16? Other than that, I think the Moslems shouldn’t it take it so hard. This pope is a hardliner who has it in for everyone who doesn’t kowtow to his particular views: Moslems, secularists, Protestants, liberal Catholics, you name it.
Nate @
23
Bravo Nate!!! Thanks for the great work!
cbl @ 205
Wow. What a memory! I could never have pulled that out of my synapses, but once you bring it up I do recall the reflagging, etc. I’m impressed!
And, not to belabor the issue, if anyone doesn’t think we’ll be invading Iran soon please see what the conservatives had to say about it in August of 2005:
http://www.amconmag.com/2005a/.....icle3.html
don’t know, let’s ask Bob’s kitty
http://www.vandebald.co.za/sph.....x_Cat2.jpg
Anybody that goes to Cheeses Crust and mentions FDL will get free Holy Toast, I swear. And both Eli and cbl will eat free. Now all I need are pizza ovens…
ET what a pity about the influence of the mean and narrow minded. Munger sounds like a real mensch: his group loved him despite their political disgreements. And he cared more for their safety than the conductor/performance aspect of his work. What a loss for everyone.
And yes, Hugh, Bennie isn’t very nice to anyone.
The women of Oaxaca don’t fool around. They took their noise to the street and appropriated the city’s main bell tower so that when they arrived, they could bang their pots and pans and ring out the bell at the same time, which can be heard throughout the city. They took over the TV station. The police have fled.
Sausage his own.
ET– I heart you so much! (from the article you cited at 200)
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I hear the Crusta Nostra can get ‘em for ya cheap
cbl @ 209
ccmask @ 213
Punaise? WE don’t need no stinking Punaise!
Stop, cbl, you’re killing me tonight!!!
montag @ 200
Not as bad as the other convict Congressman James Traficant.
Old Sow @ 211
Munger is the bestest mensch I “know”.
cbl @ 216
Did they fall off a truck? They aren’t too dinged up, are they? Maybe I can hire Lieberman to be a busboy or something. He’ll be needing a job in about a month and a half.
cbl @ 215
Now, come on, please… I asked politely once for this to stop. Now I’m gonna have to send you the chiropractor/physical therapy/psychiatry bills. There’s only so much laughing an old fart can do before it becomes dangerous… This site is becoming a public health menace… (Snort, snort, snort…) Don’t you just HATE it when someone comes up with a pun that you would have KILLED (hey, I’m a “made” old fart) to come up with…?!
cleter, how about an inside-out calzone named Crust in Cheeses?
cbl @ 215
Crusta Nostra so called because they get a pizza this and a pizza that.
meta @
212
Last Saturday at our big downtown Fiesta I bought a T-shirt with a fierce picture of Emiliano Zapata with the logan Tierra y Libertad! (Land and Liberty) Fuck you, Pat Buchanan!
OT–Jessye Norman on cspan1 singing Ave Maria for Ann.
goosebumps.
Oh, wow, ET, that’s a damn shame. How ya holdin’ up?
rat bastahd @ 222
What a friend we have in cheeses!
thanks, angie & Old Sow.
The headline makes it sound like I’m halfway out the door, and the article neglects to mention that I’m leaving in August, 2007.
I’m off with my “box of music…”
Meta, we drink fair trade Zapatista coffee from Cafe Rebelion in Denver……….mmmmmmm
Ed*ard Teller @ 227
Good on ya, ET!
Ed*ard Teller @ 228
I had no idea……missed the nuance…
sorry Marion -
It’s been a slice, I’ll be here all week . . .
That box of music is precious.
as are you.
cbl-
If the pizza place is really successful, maybe I could open an extra big one and call it…
Cheeses Crust SuperStore!
Ok, I think I’ve brought the level of discourse down enough here. Sorry.
cleter @ 233
To quote my mother: “Don’t MAKE me come over there and … (and commentary then followed about what I was doing). My cats think I’ve lost my mind because they’re not used to me screeching and howling like this! Y’all got an extra-wide Ace Bandage to help with the pulled intracostal muscles??? Just asking…
ET, I sure wish this Munger fella had been my teacher when I was playing violin;~)
Is his birthday coming up anytime soon?
So, um, how does “edit this comment” work when you’ve made a real boner of a mistake, like “intracostal” instead of “intercostal?” I clicked on “edit this comment” and arrived here… Have mercy, I’se just a old lady who don’t know nothin’ about these machines…
There appears to be a new thread upstairs, unpolluted by jokes about cheese.
Marion in Savannah @
236
At least you didn’t say intercoastal.
If you see your mistake within five minutes and you can still see the “edit this comment” button under your comment, you can edit. Howsome-ever, I notice that when I use Safari as my browser that button never shows up; neither does preview.
Ed*ard Teller @ 200
Am glad for the photograph.
Eli @
118
Well, Dominus vobiscum (means ‘take a pizza with you’)
*ilson46201 @
146
And Jeb Bush was at the groundbreaking.
Ned Lamont is ” on” it…. whoever is the creative component of his campaign is one smart smart person. Kudos to whomever….. and good luck to Ned…. I wish everyone voting D would turn their coats inside out too! ALL STATES
Nate @
23
I don’t even know who is opposing Doolittle, but after watching it, I can say: Definitely worth the few bucks. “Sick Em!”