
Sometimes it’s a drag to be from Georgia. You know, last in SAT’s, last to still be fighting Harry Potter in the schools, pretty much last state in the union to evolve a thumb, yep! That’s my Georgia!
And just in case anybody had any doubts about Georgia’s ranking among the Least Enlightened Commonwealths of our fair Republic, our fat fuck good ol’ boy governor Sonny Perdue, Jr. has gone and done the math for you.
Here’s what he said the other day:
During a news conference last week, Perdue said, "It is simply unacceptable for people to sneak into this country illegally on Thursday, obtain a government-issued ID on Friday, head for the welfare office on Monday and cast a vote on Tuesday," according to a transcript provided by Perdue’s press office.
That’s the highest elected official in Georgia talking, not even our mouth-breather rich-boy draft-dodger Senator Saxby Chambliss has said anything quite that stupid. (And yes, to attain a high position in the Georgia Republican party, you must have a name that would embarrass a golden retriever. If you’re a wealthy white man with a double-digit IQ named Saxby, Sonny, Buzzy, Bobby, Bo, or Boo, and if you’re momma’s also your third cousin, why you’re eligible for office in the Georgia GOP! No other qualifications are necessary, folks!)
But even in this regard, Georgia is the last to the party. Sonny, didn’t you get the memo? The big racist GOP pile-on was back at the end of August. George Felix Allen and Conrad Burns and all those other guys are out of the gate way ahead of you. If you’re going to really chum the wathers with half-baked xenophobic hate-speak that would embarrass a Klansman in time for your re-election bid, you’re going to have some catching up to do.
ATLANTA Hispanic and black leaders on Monday called for Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue to retract statements he made last week about illegal immigrants during the announcement of a statewide crackdown on false documentation.
(snip)
"We are distraught that … statements made last week will only increase the climate of suspicion around Latino immigrants and increase racial profiling," says the letter, signed by council members Teodoro Maus and Adelina Nicholls.
Perdue said he has no plan to apologize for criticizing illegal immigration.
"I won’t apologize for criminal activity," Perdue said Monday after a news conference at the Georgia Bureau of Investigation headquarters.
He also denied that the effort to get tough on illegal immigration is an election-year stunt.
Of course he denies that. That’s what all the Kloset Klansmen of the GOP are doing. They’re throwing big steaming chunks of red meat to their loyal base of low-information voters and then playing coy with the media. "That’s not what I meant!" they insist, all the while nodding and winking behind their hand at the party faithful.
It makes me sick. It honestly churns my gut into knots that men like this are allowed to hold office and proudly parade their ignorance before the electorate like it’s some kind of badge of honor. Not only is Perdue’s remark just chock full of dog-whistle race-hatred, it demonstrates his deep and profound ignorance of what life under a racist and inhumane immigration policy really entails.
In Georgia, if you’re off the legal radar, you can’t get a driver’s license, you can’t get social services of any kind, and you certainly can’t register to vote. If you get hurt or sick, you can’t go to the hospital for fear that they will turn you over to the Immigration authorities. Hell, Sonny, you guys are even trying to keep minority US citizens from being able to vote! You think you need to keep out the illegal immigrants, too?
All of this, of course, is more GOP pig kabuki, seeing as how Georgia’s dirty little secret is that without the work of illegals, our entire state economy would collapse. Look at what happened in Stillmore:
STILLMORE, Georgia (AP) — Trailer parks lie abandoned. The poultry plant is scrambling to replace more than half its workforce. Business has dried up at stores where Mexican laborers once lined up to buy food, beer and cigarettes just weeks ago.
This Georgia community of about 1,000 people has become little more than a ghost town since September 1, when federal agents began rounding up illegal immigrants.
The sweep has had the unintended effect of underscoring just how vital the illegal immigrants were to the local economy.
More than 120 illegal immigrants have been loaded onto buses bound for immigration courts in Atlanta, 189 miles away. Hundreds more fled Emanuel County. Residents say many scattered into the woods, camping out for days. They worry some are still hiding without food.
That’s right. Compassionate Conservatism at work has completely gutted that town’s work force and created a refugee class within our own borders. Niiiiiiiiiiiice! Heckuva job, Sonny!
The B&S convenience store, owned by Keith and Regan Slater, the mayor’s son and grandson, has lost about 80 percent of its business.
"These people come over here to make a better way of life, not to blow us up," complained Keith Slater, who keeps a portrait of Ronald Reagan on the wall. "I’m a die-hard Republican, but I think we missed the boat with this one."
(snip)
The arrests started at the plant September 1. During the Labor Day weekend, agents with guns and bulletproof vests converged on workers’ homes after getting the addresses from Crider’s files.
No people, no work
Antonio Lopez, who came here two years ago from Chiapas, Mexico, and worked at the Crider plant, said agents kicked in his front door. Lopez, 32, and his 15-year-old son were handcuffed and taken by bus to Atlanta with 30 others. Because of the boy, Lopez said, both were allowed to return. In his back pocket, he carries an order to return to Atlanta for a court hearing February 2.
But now, "there’s no people here and I don’t have any work," he said.
It is to the South’s eternal shame that we apparently don’t know how to have business and industry here without an exploited underclass of black and brown people. We made slavery illegal, so the Good Old Boy network just forestalled integration for as long as they could and continued to exploit black labor. Then came the 60′s and the Civil Rights movement. Some things changed, but not enough. Now, in 2006, white business has found a new group of brown people to subjugate, Latino immigrants. They’ll work for $2 an hour! Why pay more?
Meanwhile, the Rush Limbaugh listeners (and there’s plenty around here) plaster their SUV’s with anti-immigration stickers and bitch and moan about illegal aliens coming here to take away good white Americans’ jobs. Does it just never occur to anyone that if businesses were forbidden to pay anyone such disgracefully low wages, we wouldn’t have this "problem"? The problem lies with the very men who are in charge. It’s Sonny and his henchmen who hold the reins of the state economy. They know who’s to blame for the "immigrant problem", but they don’t want to talk about that. They just want to stage these symbolic raids and gain points with the Redneck Coalition so that they can coast into another long election cycle of corporate cronyism, shady land deals, shitty schools, decreased environmental protection, no-bid contracts, and gerrymandering of key congressional districts.
In other words, my state is facing the same dire conditions as the rest of the nation, except the country fucks who are ripping us off here are even dumber and more cartoonish than the ones in Washington. Oh, Georgia. It ain’t easy living in a place that isn’t so much a state as a punch-line. Thanks for doing everything you can, Mr. Governor, to make sure that never changes. Yee-haw!



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fitz
the zero. o yeah.
… waiting for Clinton…
oh wait, it’s YOU, TRex!
Hiya TRex…
Did you see the CNN coverage of the Princeton University/Diebold virus?
Here’s the video if you haven’t!
It’s starting to gain a lot of traction. Now I’m off to finish reading tonight’s sound and fury! brb
shush now, #4 mamis. relax and enjoy the fine waters…
maybe you should read the post, too!
trex in the house, all’s comfortable with the world
Good evening T-Rex. Good post. I’m with you on the hypocrisy of politicians talking tough about illegal immigration. Yet, oddly, it doesn’t bother them when they take campaign contributions from the companies that exploit employ those same immigrants.
Oh, and if curious, I’m taking a break while the paint dries on this manuscript. The shell gold/silver do take a while to dry.
A link for you, if you’re interested 3 Inch tall life of Joan of Arc I’m taking this as a challenge to do a gospel in the same size. (After the Psalms are done)
Max Cleland was robbed by these racist rethugs and it still makes me so … angry.
Oh, Georgia. It ain’t easy living in a place that isn’t so much a state as a punch-line.
Hi TRex
Dude, you should try living in freakin’ Florida. God. I mean, just look at that silicone harridan, Krazy Katherine Harris. I mean, every time there’s an election, it’s not Georgia everybody points and laughs at. Well, except for the time you guys replaced the excellent Max Cleland with that cretinous jacktard, Huckleberry Chambliss. Man, what were you people thinking?
Y’all just bowed up ‘cuz I’m a Yankee thet kin speak hickory, haincha bwah?
;>)
beard5 @
8
That sounds awesome, beard. I have a weak spot for Joan of Arc. They celebrate her martyrdom every year on my birthday (May 30) over en France.
Joan of Arc was only 3 inches tall? That’s small. That’s George Stephanopoulus small. Man, Joan was a tough little beezer.
Okay, TRex,
Where do I contribute to send one of these shirts to just about every single member of Congress? We’ve already sent rubber stamps, shirts are next??? LOVE IT.
We’re still looking at these “political figures” for our hooks. But the universe is looking at us.
The Rove ‘06 strategy:
“Democrats, the party of terrists and peederfiles.”
This tactic has caused another Republican to quit the Corrupt Party.
-GSD
Great post, but don’t be too down on Georgia, TRex.
After all, you gave Ray Charles somethin’ sweet to sing about:
Georgia, Georgia,
The whole day through
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind
I’m sayin’ Georgia
Georgia
A song of you
Comes as sweet and clear
As moonlight through the pines
Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you . . .
And sure, y’all’ve got Sonny, but y’all also gave the nation Jimmy Carter, which has to count for a lot.
cleter @ 14
she didn’t need much kindling!
I guess we’ll cut you some slack for Jimmy Carter, TRex.
Man da Big Dog is lookin’ and doin’ good!
Peterr @ 16
We also gave the world Ray Charles, Otis Redding, Gladys Knight, R.E.M., Little Richard, Carson McCullars, and “Cold Sassy Tree”, but all of those artists were renegades, anti-authoritarians, and rebels. One good thing (maybe the only good thing) about a repressive culture is that it produces tough, creative artists who fight the power.
Ooops… TRex… sorry… I commented before I really read your post. I thought you were writing about how Saxby said that if JEB Stewart had better intelligence the South would have won the Civil War… (I’m not making this up, you know…)
and then there is this song about a little spot near beautiful Savannah:
God Bless you for staying and fighting T-Rex and all of you in red states. I give you a lot of credit.
BTW, I made the mistake of going to midtown tonight for dinner. got to stand on the side of the street while the idiot got in his limo and they drove him off — hundreds of people lined the streets and all you could hear were wise-ass comments.
Peterr @ 16
And Otis by-God Redding, the Allman Brothers, and the Dixie Dregs.
darkblack @
25
And peaches. Peaches are good.
“…brown people to sugjugate, Latino immigrants.”
Either I need to work on my vocabulary (always a possibility) or there’s a typo in that line. Not the end of the world, of course; but if you’re emphasizing smarts and all, it might be a good idea to fix this one. Kno whut ah meen, Vern?
Low-information voters? Are these LIVs? I still think I prefer tom chicago’s MFMs. That comment was worth saving but alas, it’s lost in the FDL archives some place.
Y’all have yummy pecans too.
hmmm, peaches and pecans.
re: Georgia’s ranking among the Least Enlightened Commonwealths of our fair Republic
I dunno. They don’t call it FloriDUH for nothing.
and OH. retro or what.
ok. Get the GOP’rs organized this fall and throw the elections 5% for the GOP with exit polls showing 5% Dem ( ala OH 2004) and then we talk GA the worst.
mamis is a concern troll last seen during the runup to Liebermans lost election
UptownNYChick @
24
That would be SO refreshing.
Here, I bet you’d hear “God bless you, we’re praying for you!”
Well, see, that’s what happens when you’re trying to comment here and watch DA BIG DAWG on TDS at the same time…
OOOH, TRex was talking about our moron of a Governor instead of our moron of a Senator… Sit down and sorrow with us, please… My guess is that in your state you might be able to come up with either a governor or one senator who’s not a butthead… Here in Georgia??? Nope….
TRex, other FDLer’s,
I’m excited just to be able to stay awake for a Late Night FDL!
I love Trex, and the snark, and the posters, but I’m just a damned weenie @ night.
One thing I think is great about Georgia:
Alton Brown!!
C’mon!- Who doesn’t love Good Eats?
So I say “Yea!” to Georgia for our two favorite sons, TRex, and Alton!
Yes, I’d like an answer to that question as well, trex. Not just as a Black woman, but as a human being. Who the hell are you to criticize Purdue or anyone else for racism after having crossed the border into RedState territory yourself? The specific phrase you used, “your betters,” is one that Black people heard all too often in the South during the Civil Rights era. To read it on a so-called progressive blog was revolting, not just because it recalled the racist past but because you have castigated rightwingers for the very same attitude. Do you actually believe that your condemnation of Purdue is credible in light of your own words?
Before you remove the mote that is in your spiritual brother’s eye, remove the log from your own.
Alright, listen up.
I attacked Liza for being a talentless hack writer who thought she could hurl her own racism at Jane Hamsher with impunity. She bypassed every valid thing she could have said about the blogger lunch in favor of slinging ad hominem attacks at someone more talented, more intelligent, and more successful than she is. Her status as a minority woman does not protect her from the consequences of her actions.
ANYONE who has read my work and followed the arc of this blog knows that we are deeply committed to civil rights for all people. But treating all people as equals means that NOBODY gets a special pass. Liza and the rest of the Perpetual Victims Choir who have coalesced around this issue are the type of deeply mediocre camp-followers that buzz around every powerful movement, perpetually whining that their race, color, orientation, or philosopy are the reason that no one treats them like they’re special.
The fact is that people like Liza bring down the whole movement by dragging their personal issues into every discussion and prevent rational discourse. I think I made myself perfectly clear about how I feel about this situation. Liza could be a white Catholic girl from Nebraska and if she’d written those vile hateful things about Jane, I would have treated her exactly the same.
Nobody gets a free pass. That kind of mollycoddling and tokenism is racist in and of itself. If she wants to be considered a major part of the movement, then she needs to bring something more to the table than her personal issues and victim politics.
“…a name that would embarrass a golden retriever.” Oh my god. That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all week.
OT – Colbert…
“I don’t believe in couples staying together for the kids but I do believe in couples staying together for the War on Terror“
ROTFPIMPLMAO!!!!!
Yes – here in Texas we have nothing to look down on Georga from. GWBush – Dixie Chicks, GHWBush – Ann Richards, The Bass Brothers – Buddy Holly. Et.al ad nausium. That’s my state.
Seriously, if “Saxby Chambliss” was a name for some especially good fried chicken or a cocktail, I would have probably partaken.
As it is, not so much.
PS I grew up in the South.
Watching Clinton on TDS brings a tear to my eyes. Of course Balrog tears evaporate immediately, but still.
I want to share this interview with all of my Baptist/Repug/anti-abortion friends and ask them over and over: What’s Not To Like?
Clinton is a fine man. Much can be determined by listening to an EX-president’s commentary (copyright Balrog). This is the schizzle, folks.
Hi TRex!
If you’re in CA, what you get is people who think it’s all Beverly-Hills-Malibu-movie-star land. We have a disaster, we get people from other states talking about how we deserve it because of [fill in blank]; if it’s in their state, they want full coverage because it’s not their fault.
Here’s my experience of Georgia, my friend Ellis from Quitman. When I was in fifth grade my family moved to Alexandria VA from Ithaca NY, Ellis three houses up the street. My whole family not only got Georgia from this kid, we all fell for him. He and I had a special bond, having been born on the exact same day (11/29/53).
Of course we have reconnected in our graying middle age and of course he’s a big fucking fag like moi!
Thanks Ellis, and also my cousin Norma from Laurel MS, for being such incredible people and rendering me unable to be lazy and kneejerk on this whole south thing.
cleter @
12
Think Stonehenge.
The stupid insulting people are hereby invited to leave. I’m not interested in paying to host your spite-filled ignorant temper tantrums any more, nor watch you lob grenades at my posters.
Go be a low-rent race baiting asshole someplace else. I think there are several gatherings of the talentless, self-pitying faithful right now where you will feel very comfortable; FDL Late Nite is not one of them.
Margot @ 32
He is not popular here. The secret service guy standing near me said “i guess he’s losing some votes,” when people were getting pissy about being held up. Girl next to me shouted back “He never got any here.” That was the only cheer
EPU’d:
How many countries can we unite in anti-American rage? [James MacDonald, ‘War with Iran’ at Making Light
We’re first in the line to be voted off the planet, I suspect.
We have one party that’s busy stoking the fire with things like ‘head-in-the-sand liberals’ (have they noticed who’s trying to stop this oncoming trainwreck? It ain’t the conservatives).
We have another party that is, at the top, most of it so afraid of scaring the train crew that it isn’t going to do anything useful.
We have a whole helluva lot of pissed off people who can see said trainwreck coming, but are being told to STFU because, well, we-the-people aren’t supposed to be able to see the trainwreck coming. (Hi, y’all!)
We are SOOO screwed.
I’m hardly suggesting anyone is above being taken to task, but that still doesn’t explain the racist code. Sorry, but it’s not ok when a liberal does it either.
“Racist code” is your interpretation of that remark, not mine. I’m not responsible for your baggage, kids.
TRex @ 47
bravo, TRex!
psst– this is what grasping at straws looks like.
Darkblack spoke as the God of progressive… music
The Dixie Dregs. DarkBlack, you have validated yourself forever in my heart. If you want to hear bootlegs, compare experience, or simply blow a virtual fatty on the Dregs, I’m here for you.
God they rocked.
Tony Snow should have never said Colin Powell was “confused”.
Bill Kristol’s and Karl Rove’s little plan to spring a “trap” on Democrats has helped to ignite the first revolt of loyal Republicans in Bush’s presidency.
Not confused says Powell.
-GSD
Oh Trex, you are such a freaking great writer. I just love your voice, your snark, your big therapod sensibility–you keep on keeping on, you big saurus.
Margot @ 32
Don’t forget “Bless your heart.” I got that one just the other day.
Jane Hamsher @ 44
Yikes! Um, which ones? Have I offended?
Jane Hamsher @ 44
Phew. This is just Jane’s sig line.
“Does it never occur to anyone that if businesses were forbidden to pay anyone such disgracefully low wages, we wouldn’t have this problem? The problem lies with the very men who are in charge. It’s Sonny and his henchmen who hold the reins of the state economy. They know who’s to blame for the “immigrant problem”, but they don’t want to talk about that. They just want to stage these symbolic raids and gain points with the Redneck Coalition so that they can coast into another long election cycle of corporate cronyism, shady land deals, shitty schools, decreased environmental protection, no-bid contracts, and gerrymandering of key congressional districts.”
As good a description of Southern politics as I’ve read.
Well said.
We blogsphere types get a lot of requests to write our senators, and I respond to every one of them. My senator always writes me back quickly:
My senator is Saxby Chambliss, the guy who beat Max Cleland by attacking his patriotism, the guy TRex is talking about. I’ll bet you wish you had a senator that responded immediately to your emails like mine does.
My other senator is Johnny Isakson. You probably haven’t heard of him. I, on the other hand, haven’t heard from him…
diogenes @ 55
A pretty apt description of Republicans in general.
GSD @ 51
Great link, GSD. I particularly like the last paragraph, given the GA discussion here tonight:
Bush, Powell, McCain, and Carter. As they sing it on Sesame Street, “One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn’t belong . . .”
agreed
http://www.danablankenhorn.com…..a_exc.html
(written before I read yours)
Mickey @ 56
If it makes you feel better I can’t even get the Democrat who is running against Trent Lott to respond (not even even an automated response) to me when I send e-mail after e-mail trying to volunteer for his campaign. At least y’all have Democrats who try to win.
Angie @ 56,
I read somewhere when Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, he said “I think we’ve just delivered the South to the Republican Party for the rest of my life..”
Mickey @ 57
I added some emphasis to your comments. Shouldn’t you have said “my senator’s automated email program always responds quickly”?
Shorter Trex: Georgia is secure, thoughtful
Xeno @ 59
Clearly you have come here wanting to be upset. You’ve thrown your own blanket interpretation over everything I have said. You’re like a Talibangelican Christian that way.
I’m really sorry you have chosen to interpret my remarks the way you have and alligned yourself with a professional victim like Liza. You guys enjoy your whining. The rest of us will be busy building a future.
Right.
I’m off.
Will check back in from home.
Peterr @ 62:
I’m sure he types each email by hand. However, his votes are obviously automated.
I was going to buy Frank Rich’s new book, but there’s no link from here to there. Is this something that can be added? I want to buy it, but I want this site to get credit for the buy.
LindyH @ 67
This should do it, redirect.
http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Li…..mp;s=books
LindyH @
66
Hit any Amazon link, it will work.
Xeno,
I wouldn’t know Trex if he stomped into my house, but I read him differently.I take him this way.
If you’re equal, you’re equal. You get to speak up like an equal, and you get criticized equally as well.
Having read his body of posts, there is no way the man is racist.
FWIW, I have taken some criticism at FDL myself regarding illegal immigration. It wasn’t personal, and it didn’t hurt my feelings. And afterwards, Jane was big enough, kind enough, and progressive enough to put one of my posts up.
Dissent is the hallmark of progressives – otherwise, we’d be Republicans.
T-Rex, that was a good post. We were neighbors, sort of, in the aftermath of Katrina. I evacuated to Alabama (grew up there).
diogenes @ 62
sad, that! Johnson was a very good man wrt civil rights and should rest easy for doing what needed to get done. What a difficult Presidency he had, indeed…the Commander in Chief of a more than odious war and enacting civil rights legislation as a Texan back then.
Now that’s hard work.
Balrog @ 49
I was fortunate enough to meet Andy, Steve, and Rod individually back in the ’80’s during my Hollywood sojourn.
Gentlemen and monster musicians, all.
ecb @ 53
There are varying ways of saying that. It’s like Mandarin or something, all in the intonation. One way actually means bless your heart, one means “oh for heaven’s sake, you are a helpless thing, aren’t you, let ME do it” and so on.
I will never forget, shortly after moving to Ohio, talking to an in-law. The subject was a friend’s child. He was “backward.” I asked if he had to go to a special school. If looks could kill….backward, I learned, meant “shy.”
diogenes @ 61
I’ve seen personally what Katrina has done to southern attitudes and it’s not good for Bush or the Republican party. Limited but…
Sure, you can brag about your Georgia now, TRex, but just you wait!
We here in South Carolina are hot on your heels. And if our voters have anything to say about it, we will restart the War of Northern Aggression by Christmas!
(cue the Confederate Honor Band)
Margot @
73
There’s a lovely local writer, Celia Rivenbark (she’s what you’d get if Lewis Grizzard and Erma Bombeck had a child!), who has published “Bless Your Heart, Tramp!”
Thanks indeed, Jane and Coz.
Margot @ 74
It does have different meanings depending on who your talking to and how they say it. Typically when people say it to me they mean “go to hell in the nicest way I can possibly say it with the fakest smile I can put on my face.” Very similar to “Isn’t that special” which typically means “You are an idiot and I can’t believe I am having a converstation with you.”
IIRC, astralplame was considering moving back home to Atlanta. Now there’s someone who could lift the average IQ of the entire state enough to make people sit up and take notice.
And our corresponding loss here in Cali.
diogenes, here’s that quote in a rather more recent context (2004):
http://www.usatoday.com/news/o…..kham_x.htm
Diogenes @ 78,
I will look for Celia Rivenbark. Anyone who can evoke Lewis Grizzard and Erma Bombeck is OK with me.
America always has been the country of immigrants. Every era brought a different kind of immigrants, people who would add to the diversity, ingenuity and beauty of this land. Now is the time where we have latinos as a major kind of immigrants. We need those immigrants like we needed all the prior waves of immigrants, it is a basic priciple of the American dream.
Latinos add in many ways to our society, they have a great attitude to hard work. They also enrich our culture. Those parts of the country which welcome them – such as California – are going to be enriched, the ones who put up fences – like Georgia – will atrophy.
Titanyum @ 82
true!
Talibangelican christian. TREX thats why I come here, you are simply the best.
Yay, Snarkopod. Another fine bunch of words in fine order.
I dated a guy in high school – loved him and would have married him of he’d asked – from the Geechee (sp?) River area. Would that be the Geechee valley? I went out with him on a blind date and really liked him but had to go on a second date to be sure because his accent was so thick I was never quite sure what he was sayin’. Although I picked up the NoVa accent about ten minutes after moving to VA from California, it took me a lowung tahm ta git Geechee.
Oh, and the Indigo Girls, too, right? Love this: “The Mississippi’s mighty but it starts in Minnesota/At a place where you can walk across with five steps down.”
I’m torn on this one.
On the one hand, I’m not against people having a better life. I know it’s fucked up in a lot of places in the world and we have it better than lots of the planet.
On the other, we’re dogpiling on the President (and rightly so) for illegally tapping wires without a warrant and for torturing people. Those are examples of the President breaking the law . . . eventually a lot more will probably surface, but that’s neither here nor there.
My point is . . . people are here against the law. Sucks, but there it is. We need the laws changed. Until then, the law is the law . . . right or wrong. The President’s breaking it. He’s wrong. Same goes for other people, too.
I have sympathy, and I want a more sensible immigration policy and laws. Until then, what we have is the law. And the same can be said for amnesty or retroactively making something legal . . . the President’s wrong to try to get it for his purposes, same goes for others.
We’re either a nation of laws, or we aren’t . . . it’s not a “sometimes” proposition.
Oh good gracious me! I am a sweet ‘lil peach flowah, and I simply do not see what all this fuss is about! And, good gracious me, whaat evah did ah say so that my earlier rema..ks were put in “moderation”? /s
darkblack @
71
Same here. Have you seen the video from Montreaux Jazz? Heavy on the Doctor, but very fun stuff.
Let’s talk fusion offline if you have a mind.
There’s an old joke around here.
Poor southern scholarship girl is assigned to room with Ms Yankee got-rocks.
Ms Got-rocks points out the library is named after her daddy.
“Bless you-ah heart.”
Ms Got-rocks points out the Beemer daddy gave her for her birthday.
“Bless you-ah heart.”
Ms Got-rocks points out the diamond necklace and tennis bracelet, the cost of which matched the GDP of some countries.
“Bless you-ah heart.”
Ms Got-rocks asks, “can you say anything besides bless your heart?”
“My daddy taught me it’s ev-ah so much nicer than kiss my ass, be-yoch!”
Maggie @
76
I hear what you’re saying and the fact is that when I wrote the word “betters” it never occured to me that people would put a racial spin on it. If I had to change one thing about the post, that would be it, because it was so widely misinterpreted and I wanted Liza to be abundantly clear about the fact that I was attacking her as a no-talent whiner who was taking her personal issues and trying to inject them into the discourse. She has a long history of doing exactly that and then branding anyone who takes her to task as a sexist and a racist and that, to me, is lower than dirt.
But it’s out there and it’s done, so what am I supposed to do about it now? People are going to interpret that statement however they want. In that way it is sort of an interesting litmus test, but I do sort of regret that it was taken the way it has been.
People act like I just randomly reached out and bitch-slapped Liza for being a black girl, and the fact is that she attacked us. She shouldn’t be surprised that she got hit back.
Nash @ 87,
Add to that how corporations are using immigrants as a blunt instrument against working folks.
TRex,
pretty much last state in the union to evolve a thumb, yep! That’s my Georgia!
I used to live in Cobb county Georgia. Y’all remember the anti-evolution stickers on school textbooks? Yep, that was us. One of our prouder moments. Ahh…sweet memories. Georgia on my mind indeed.
ecb @ 78
“Have a Nice Day” in SoCal speak means Go to Hell more often than not. Funny, that
Margot @ 82
Here’s her website.
http://celiarivenbark.com/Reviews.htm
Enjoy!
TRex,
I swear to all that is sacred that you are truly da bomb. Your invective is what I live for every evening. I feel like we were separated at birth.
Let me say also that I have substantial family still in Georgia. Daddy prides himself on being a booogie negro.
I took advantage of Daddy’s hospitality when Mrs. King died and went down to pay my respects. The desperation and poverty I encountered on the streets of Atlanta is truly breathtaking and had me wondering if God was tryin to tell me something. The city council’s answer to poverty is to criminalize panhandling.
Truly brilliant. When will we ever learn and start treating each other as if life actually mattered and stop worrying about what class we belong to.
Peace and blessings upon you.
skeptical brotha @
95
Thank you so much, SB. On a night like this, that kind of appreciation is balm to my soul.
Thanks for coming and thanks for reading FDL.
TRex, y’all need to git what /s means.
Oh good gracious meah. Y’all doah know bout Southen humor. Massah *ilson, if you be good, please, and I’m so lovin all that you do, could pleasssse release that comment from the ‘lil peach flowah?
flowah @ 97
Evil woman. *grin*
Lotus, please don’t nag the moderators. We spring them from moderation as fast as we can, okay? There’s a lot going on here tonight.
Pardon me whilst I giggle. I think it’s southern FEMALE humor they don’t get.
diogenes @ 97
Thanks!
You know, there’s a lot to love about Georgia. The trees, the red clay, the spring, the mild winter. Just every so often, the chucklefucks in power piss me off. It could be so much BETTER here.
What do you love about where you live?
Hello TRex
“she attacked us”
Uh, you and who else? The Official Members Of Your Movement? You channel Dear Leader with comments like that.
“what am I supposed to do about it now”
Well, if she is right about the baggage associated with the term “your betters”, you ought to apologize.
If not, and it was an honest mistatke, I’d humbly suggest you dial back the personal attacks anyway. More flies with honey, and all that.
One of the reasons that I don’t read this blog as often as some others (and I have been reading it for a long time) is that — ironically — I don’t have a lot of patience for the personal attacks by some of the blog posters themselves.
I find that these words — usually in the comments — tend to detract from the overall experience.
All that said, I’ll be back, and TRex, I do hope that you continue to post.
Carry on.
In Athens, Georgia I live five minutes from the dead center of town, the clock at city hall chimes the hours. Trees and vines and grass come right up to all sides of my house. Wysteria and ivy.
It’s like living in a national park.
Authority Stealing @ 103
flies are to be killed and honey won’t do that.
it doesn’t sound like you read the post in question??? so why comment?
Good lord.
Where is everyone?
Hellooooo?
*tap tap* Is this thing on?
Trex—just took me over 5 minutes to connect to FDL, there may be some server issues.
Okay. I’ll just talk to myself.
Jane warned me this is what would happen if I answered the trolls. Everybody would go watch reruns of ‘Matlock’ or something.
Sigh.
TRex @
103
Pig pickin’s and oyster roasts on the deck with my friends and family. The oysters are local.
Tar Heel falls – perfect blue skies, low humidity, temps moderate. Fishing is perfect!
The beaches. There’s a little island with absolutely nothing on it, and it’s a short boat ride away.
Good old boys, and good old gals. Down to earth, know where they stand, know where you stand. No bullshit.
Being Southern can be a bitch, but I wouldn’t be anything else.
Here, I’ll write an autumn haiku:
Oh, soft black sweater,
Where have you been all this time?
Yeah, come to papa.
LindyH @ 108
Will you sing the national anthem for us, Lindy?
TRex @ 113
and not the dennis hastert version.
TRex @
110
Long experience here. It just happens. The IQ of the room suddenly sinks, everyone feels collectively stupid for particpating and Matlock starts lookin’ real good.
I was going to say “I wonder what Margaret changed her name to?” but I won’t.
I have lived in Portland Oregon for almost eight months. I lived in Malibu prior to coming here, so some people will think me insane.
But alas, I was beginning to become allergic to the sun. If I came out on a particularly high UVA day my skin would feel like I was being microwaved.So here I am and so far, I love it. Instead of oceanfront I have a 19th floor condo with a view to die for and downtown Portland is undergoing a mini renaissance so every day is fun to live for. Its a great place and I hope no one comes here.
what a pleasure to be (almost) alone in the room with my two favorite fdlers jane and trex.
and i’m speechless.
you are both totally the best!!
Hi TRex….. been at my campaign workers strategy meeting to cook up our candidates “Kiss Float” ideas.
I would really like to visit the Pacific Northwest. I’ve never been there. I really like mist and rain, but around here it’s kind of a treat. Georgia is blessed with an almost obnoxious number of sunny days each year. Every now and then you get up and look outside and scowl. “Great. Another fucking gorgeous day.”
And in the winter, everyone prays for snow days because EVERYTHING STOPS. No school, no work. Although being at the radio station is cool because you get to read the school closings and you know that all over town, little kids are dancing with joy when you say their school’s name.
Oh, Say! can you see
By the dawn’s early light
What so proudly we hail
At the twilight’s last gleaming.
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O’er the ramparts we watched,
Were so gallantly streaming.
And the rockets red glare,
the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night
that our flag was still there.
Oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
That is Oregon when it snows or there is ice rain. The city of Portland closes down and the city buses slide off the bridges.
God damn it. I can’t believe they’re fucking up our country like this.
Okay, for a very brief period of time, I am going to update this post with a picture of me and Juan Carlos that I just took with my iSight camera.
Let me put it up.
and the refrain:
On the shore dimly seen thro’ the mists of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
‘Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation;
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
TRex @ 110
That’s why they callem trolls. And I don’t even have a tv. Ok I do, it just doesn’t get any channels. Are we clear?
TRex—come visit any time. We’ve been hosting Sasquatch for quite some time so we accustomed to oversized and unusual creatures. You just have to promise not to eat the Space Needle.
LindyH @ 120
HOORAYYYYYY!!!
*clapclapclapclapclacpclap*
Thank you, Lindy!
*sniiiiif*
It was lovely!
Hey T-Rex, some of us are still here, then again it’s only 3:30 in the afternoon down here and we’re reading you instead of working…
Good post, and a thought or two on race. We are hugely sensitive to it now in the US and get after anyone who, even perhaps in error, makes what some might construe as a racist remark or statement. In the land down under it still comes as shock at the casual acceptance of racism – it is like MS 30 years ago, and gives us a good perspectiuve on how far we in the US have come, though we do have a long way to go.
But, and I say this with care, folks in minority groups have do their part too, which is to not use the race card to evade responsibility for what in a white would just be stupid behavior. I can see how it is tempting, and probably fair in a get even sort of way, but it sets things back for everyone.
We need to be kind to each other and respectful, as there is enough hate and BS coming from the Rs that we must not add to it. We do need to call them on it though when it comes out, and tell them, as Olbermann did in another context tonight, that it is just not acceptable.
Keep the faith.
I haven’t had the pleasure of an ice storm yet, but my sister has a home on Maui and I’d gladly make myself an uninvited guest.
TRex @ 126
Snark aside, seeing all of it here reduced me to tears. But it also stiffened my spine. Some things are worse than death…and handing our country over to criminals is one of those things.
Night Trex and Jane,
Way late for a east coaster!
TRex @
123
Sorry. I couldn’t make it upload for some reason.
Harrrumph.
ifthethunderdontgetya @
125
Yeah, they’re gone. I shouldn’t have fed them after midnight.
RBG @
126
Space Needle…mmmmm…lunar orbiters…my favorite desert as a kid. So disappointing when the dry ice was all smoked out.
Sorry, TRex. I had to go mop my kitchen floor. Company coming tomorrow.
Those words that LindyH and brainfaht posted above are inspirational. They make me want to go out and defeat at the polls those evil trolls who have hijacked our country.
Keith Olbermann was great tonight.
One more thing (I got work in 6 hours): This is a darn good Congressional race
blog post.
Night, firepeople.
diogenes @ 131
Good to see you Diogenes. Have you seen the WaPo battle with the Commmunication Workers? I’m thinking of getting into that one.
neurophius @ 135
I’m glad I’m not the only person who cleans in the middle of the night. I went after my ktichen floor on Sunday afternoon. I have some ironing I need to do, though.
RBG @
126
See, I have to write a book so I can go on book tour and visit Firedogs all over the country. I’ve been all up and down the east coast, but never to the northwest. And my only experience with the desert states was riding in Courtney Love’s tour bus, which presented its own urgent and terrifying distractions from the scenery.
TRex–didn’t you mean to say you shouldn’t eat trolls after midnight?
TRex >”I would really like to visit the Pacific Northwest. I’ve never been there…”
Y`all come on up any ole time & you`ll be welcome
TRex >”…Every now and then you get up and look outside and scowl. “Great. Another fucking gorgeous day.”…”
Oh yea, I can relate
That was one of the main reasons I left Hawai`i after living there for several years
TRex >”…And in the winter, everyone prays for snow days because EVERYTHING STOPS…”
Sounds like the PacNW when it snows
Well summer just left & we`re into fall now; clouds & rain showers
*sigh*
don`t get to see the mountains as much
So yea, come on up anytime cause you`d fit in well
“…the art of life is more like navigation than warfare…” – Alan Watts
Gosh, Georgia sounds like Ohio.
RBG @ 140
*BUUUUUUUURRRRP!!*
Where did you think they went?
RBG @ 140
Eating trolls after midnight can cause godawful heartburn.
neurophius @ 144
I’ll say.
hmmm Courtney Love’s tour bus, I imagine you could turn that into a horror movie maybe even get Jane to produce. Well I’m off I have much to do in the morning.
g’night all
So, do y’all like ‘em Southern fried, or barbecued?
brainfaht @ 146
I envision it as a kind of 90’s “Heart of Darkness”.
“Apocalypse Sow”.
Okay I’m laughing as my head hits the pillow.
How did you happen to be on the bus, T?
Just be careful of the heartburn there TRex… some of those trolls can be nasty…
*passes TRex a 55 gallon drum of Pepto-Bismol*
G’night folks, I gotta do some actual work to pay the bills. Have to keep them Kangarubles coming in. Thanks again for a great post T-Rex.
katymine @ 121
Oh yeah Katymine, there’s nothing quite like the nearly annual ice storm whipping out the Columbia Gorge bringing power lines and trees down under the weight of the ice and the yahoos in their 4-wheel drive who won’t let a little ice stop them from cartwheeling off of the overpasses.
Then again, there’s nothing quite like the satisfying, long, mellow autumns that stretch nearly to Thanksgiving before the rain sets in and the wonderful Springs rich with cherry, plum and apple blossoms, with azalea and rhododendruns and ROSES.
Then of course there are the summers with the bounty of bush, tree and vine: strawberry, raspberry, blueberry, logan berry, marionberry, blackberry, cherry, nectarine, peach, pear, melon, hazelnut, walnut, grape. And the vineyards….
Okay, I’m hungry. Later.
persiflage & piffle @ 154
I was initated to Portland by the worst ice storm in 20 years with no power for 3 days and left sliding my way down the mountian to the valley of the sun. What I miss is all the food, wine, beer, art, plays and events but not the rain.
neurophius @ 150
I was a research assistant on a biography that my friend Poppy wrote. Quelle couchemare!! Courtney Love is a heap of dirty laundry that smokes. And swears.
Nite all…. Trex… thought you were heading off for the night?
Then again, there’s nothing quite like the satisfying, long, mellow autumns that stretch nearly to Thanksgiving before the rain sets in and the wonderful Springs rich with cherry, plum and apple blossoms, with azalea and rhododendruns and ROSES.
Oooooh. Where is all this again? Portland?
Man, I love Thanksgiving. That’s a holiday where you get all the Christmas food and none of the Christmas angst.
Remember when Harry Reid wanted to throw all the illegals out years ago. Then he cried and made up a story that later proved false. Gawd, I love a good govt. phony.
He could make millions in those liberal shows where the white guy is always a villain and phony. Harry Reid is the champ.
So erase my message before you have to learn to deal with the truth.
katymine @ 157
That was when I left work and came home.
Man, speaking of food, I should eat something.
Portland Oregon… lived there 19 years. Great place, lots of variety in restaurants, brewpubs and theater. Outside the city there are acres of U-pick farms with fresh produce and fruit orchards. Then if you have not had a pacific salmon, they you are truely have not lived. Jakes downtown is one of the best….
katymine >”Portland Oregon…Jakes downtown is one of the best….”
Oh yea !
I once worked in a rock & roll bar on the east side and one of the bands that played our place had a guitar player that worked at Jake`s as a waiter. Great guy, great band & great food. Good things that make a good life.
“All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.” – T.E. Lawrence
Katymine-
I know what you mean. It snowed the day I moved into my house and that first week we had an ice storm. I stood at my window and watched each gust of wind lift the roots of the doug fir that was between my yard and my neighbor’s (who I hadn’t even met yet and I didn’t know if the tree was mine or theirs). It came down across their driveway and you can imagine this first time homeowner’s relief when they told me it grew on their side of the property line. I hadn’t even unpacked all of my boxes yet when the power went out, but luckily I knew where I had packed my flashlight and I had a fireplace (if you tear your packing boxes up and roll the cardboard into logs they smolder quite nicely.)
TRex @
160
How about a nice wildebeast, or perhaps a wooly mammoth?
Another wonderful piece from the pundit master.
Just watched the Goldwater documentary on HBO. The old footage was my favorite part. Libertarian leaning republicans need to find a different crowd to lose with.
On immigration and southern denial
The Little Rock Country Club had a raid last month and many of the illegals who were arrested had been there for over ten years. They were all held in jail until trial and of course a conviction and deportation. Entire families and homes shattered. The Country Club was not issued as much as a warning. When I jumped in the comments after the trial on a local blog and suggested perhaps the CC could help them out with some severance or help moving back to Mexico the chorus chimed in to ridicule that idea and said employers are not to blame. In that thread I never blamed anyone just thought ten years employment with low wages resulting in a jail, conviction and deportation might deserve a bit of help.
We need a common article III for all employees in America. Human friggin’ Decency
Actually all we really need is to enforce the laws currently on the books with a few exceptions. Enforcement and accountability for employers who hire illegals in the first place and we will not have a constant northbound flow across the border. Most of the chatter is another cry for immunity from rich folks who are basically modern day
slaveindentured servant overlords. Give folks already here legitimate residency. It’s almost that simple.Come to Portland TRexie. It’s just a couple of hours to Chez Jane and Poodle Beach.
1995-1996 was the interesting year… the big wind storm that clocked in at 120mph blowing down old growth trees and no power x 5 days with 6 teenagers in the house. Or the flood a few months later that raised the Willamette River from its normal 17 ft to 45ft to the point that there were no falls. My father had 116 inches of rain at his place that year on the coast.
Yep… Arizona weather is pretty boring most of the time…. the weather channel…. “98 degrees and abundant sunshine”.
I’m usually the last one to post. But here goes. I have lived for the last 20 years is Santa Fe, N.M. And this would be paradise on earth if we could just get a little more rain. Please send us some of your excess,TRex.
I love the mountains, the most gorgeous sunsets and all of my Chicano friends. 45% of the population are of Hispanic heritage. And a lot of them can trace their heritage back 400 years. I admire so much that they raise their children to be bilingual. Proud of their heritage, and proud to be Americans.
Our neighbor to the east(Texas)loves to execute folks. It hasn’t happened in many years here.
We have our problems,2 of our 3 congress critters are repugs.(soon to change) And one senile repug senator. And a Governor that thinks he can run for president(not).We too have our redneck dumbfucks. But I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. Thanks TRex and to the ladies of the lake.
TDS just ended here. Big Dawg was great. Whenever I see him I remember in Hillary’s book she said how much she loved his hands. I find myself watching them, I can see why she loves his hands, they’re beautiful.
Dang, I forgot the HBO special was on tonight… need to check to see if it will be on again.
SteveAudio @ 164
It’s fish sticks and mac and cheese for me, I’m afraid. I really need to go to the grocery store tomorrow.
TRex: Did you get that thing I sent you?
katymine,
I was in Portland just before what they called “The Columbus Day Storm.” I was in the late 50s or 1960. My uncle, Russel Crane, was the line coach for West Virginia. They played the Oregon Ducks in Wilamette Stadium. The Ducks won. We ate Chinese food in Portland’s small – compared to Seattle or SanFran – ChinaTown afterward.
A week later, the storm tore the roof off the stadium.
Oh, and Pam (Mrs. Audio) is making her mom’s mac’n’cheese for Xmas, come out here and have some.
SteveAudio @ 172
Indeed I did. It’s great. And very appropriate about now.
Cearly, even large carnivorous reptiles get to feeling a bit peckish, now and again.
SteveAudio @ 176
It is one of the defining characteristics.
Mmmmm. Actually, in spite of its humble nature, this is a really yummy sort of comforting meal. And I have Moose Tracks ice cream for dessert.
Then you understand the storm we had in 1995, it was rated worse than the Columbus Day Storm. Worked downtown, knew there was a storm coming but not how bad it would be. Went out to lunch and came back and the office was empty, the mayor had called for a city wide shutdown of the the downtown. Just so happened that I drove to work that day because of a MD appointment, my normal 20 minute drive home was 2 1/2hrs dodging falling trees and trying to keep my Mazda 626 sedan on the road.
TRex @ 177
Mac’n’cheese is all american, well, italian, well universal comfort food.
And there are 10,000 different ways to make it, all really good.
Sadly, for me, not really on the diet. But at Christmas time, I’ll make an exception.
SteveAudio @ 176
Even without being a reptile, do understand being a little peavish. Right TRex….
katymine @ 180
Indeed.
“Mother says Beethoven makes me peevish.”
(E. M. Forster)
I don’t know if anyone saw, but I blogged at HuffPo about a guy who has started a Stewart/Colbert08 campaign. He sent me some bumper stickers today.
Pretty interesting, in light of the new Robin Williams film coming out.
TRex, thank you for another thought provoking post. You asked what do I love about where I live. Everything!
I live in a little cottage* by a creek in the redwoods just south of the San Francisco Bay Area. Unfortunately, my fixed income is forcing me to sell. My lemonade: I’m looking real serious at moving to Oregon. Luckily, I like rain as I have been living in a temperate rainforrest for the past 3 years. I am considering it “training” for my move.
*Realtor said I have to stop calling it the little cabin by a creek in the redwoods and call it a cottage…
Well, I am going to say…. “Katymine step away from the computer” ….. “and get to bed” … nite TRex…. thanks for listening to me earlier and I would gladly be a tour guide to Portland one day… know a great greek restaurant on 3rd street downtown. But the best is the food court at Saturday Market…. now that I do miss!
Ok you guys…. now you got me hungry and I am back on my diet….. grrrr
night, katymine
SteveAudio @ 182
What new Robin Williams film?
I don’t want Stewart and Colbert to go all establishment. They need to be where they are in order to keep the establishment on its toes.
Hey, Steve, reading it now. I see Jane has a post up too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..29754.html
TRex @ 186
http://imdb.com/title/tt0483726/
Man Of The Year
Basically, Jon Stewart runs for Pres., and wins.
Ohmygoodness, Steve. I’ve not heard a thing about this film. Robin Williams doing Jon Stewart.
Suzanne @ 183
my 2 cents:
Keep moving north.
Stay on the western edge of the coastal range.
Look for a place near clean water, preferably with a well.
Southern exposure is an increasingly important blessing.
Drive for a hard bargain as a buyer.
You got good advice as a seller.
Realtors are about to get slapped in the face very hard.
Suzanne @
189
It would have to be hilarious. They would have to work really hard to make that film unfunny.
TRex @ 191
I certainly hope so. Robin has done a few stinkers, but not many.
Nite all, don’t stay up too late. You freedom fighters need your rest for tomorrow’s exciting episode of Saving the Constitution from the Giant Fungus Amungus.
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/fungus1.html
The similarities to the pervading corruption of this administration are striking and a more apt metaphor than those lame aspens. I think. Maybe not. Piffle. It’s waaay past my bedtime.
Good night Keith Olbermann wherever you are.
night, p&p
ET, thanks. I seriously considered further north but my fake knee and bad back don’t do snow well. I’ve already learned a hard lesson from my Realtor and should have sold it 6 months ago.
Steve, really really hard – Robin doin’ Stewart – bet Count Novakula won’t watch that one either.
TRex @ 110
The trolls are after Matlock now? Kewl! LOL!
Btw TRex, don’t stop being you (as if you could)!
And for folks who don’t like it here, plenty of other places to go.
They might even join in that Matlock hunt. Nothing pleases trolls so much as chasing after imaginary terrorist-supporting defense attorneys.
He went that way . Go git ‘em trolls!
God in heaven, Bob Novak accusing someone else of having delusions of grandeur. You just have to wonder sometimes.
TRex @ 186
Wouldn’t want to be in their shoes when ‘Boss Man‘ comes around
;>)
I see that you’re still up TRex.
Wanted to offer a suggestion for your Late Nite posts.
After last night’s food fight over your Kerry post (which I had no problem with), I thought that you might continue your Senatorial reign with posts on all Repug Senators running for…
cover…uhmm…re-election.There’s such a bounty of mahvelous candidates that I’m sure you could provide us all with fits of giggles from now until election day.
What say you?
Like Beard5 said, Southern states desperate for industry & tax revenue (while they hand out tax cuts to corporations faster than free beer at Mardi Gras) court these corporate poverty-mongers (Tyson, Pilgrim, sugar & rice mills, you name it), but when it comes time to bust some heads about “illegal immigration”, these same government stooges who crow about “guest workers” being “good for the economy” are also the first ones to send out the INS buses. Seems to me that the whole clusterfuck of a system works exactly to the corporations’ specs, and the politicians are just their favorite little whores, ready to spread ‘em at the least command.
If we ever hope to achieve anything approaching humanity in our dealings with our citizens and those who might want to become citizens (many of the “guest workers” in LA, at least, come here for three months, save ALLLL of their money, and then take it home with them, to live off of until they can get back in) — if we ever hope to treat ALL people like human beings, we’ve got to start by DEPOSING THE CORPORATE MASSAHS WHO REAP THE BENEFITS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
Until we can get the bribe whores out of the government and get the corporations out of our White House, “immigration” will never be anything but another form of legalized slavery.
Same thing goes for sweatshops in Central America and Asia. Until we can start buying from people who use FREE ADULT LABOR, we cannot ever hope to be anything but hypocrites.
Never did hear tell whatever became of Wally World’s INS bust… and there was only ONE, which is what REALLY surprised me. I’ve never yet been in a Wally World in Louisiana or Florida that didn’t have “invisible” people on the graveyard shift. But oh, noooooo, nobody in Bentonville, Arkansas knows nothin’ ’bout birthin’ THOSE babies, no suh. I bet Mister Sam would be damned proud of his little neanderthal neonazi progeny by now, eh?
katymine @
121
A little further south here the folks start putting the tirechains on from Oct. thru Nov. and then it doesn’t freeze or snow at all sometimes. Of course when it does all of a sudden the streets are silent and it feels like Sundays all strung out. The 150′ Redwood tree in the backyard gets whited out and it’s time to break out the sleds. 32 years in Orygun and never ever have I put on the chains. Trex, you come on along and spread a little snark here abouts and lift some of that grey drizzle off and sit a spell on the porch sometime.
Lordy. I’m tired.
I guess it’s off to bed for me.
TRex @
148
Nice!
Night, Trex, everyone!
G’nite, Trex, sleep well.
Night SteveAudio.
Jane Hamsher @
115
I felt stupid for participating once.
Changed my name to Balrog. Now everyone fears my presence!
Except Gandalf. SOB.
Nighters, Suzanne!
TRex
In a Voltaire-like kind of way, it makes me proud that they’re allowed to hold such office. But I think this might be one of those cases where we’d be better off not exercising such rights. I’m not sure which idea disturbs me more, that they might be able to fool enough people into voting for them that wouldn’t if they knew just what he was up to and paid attention, or that they don’t need to bother fooling the people.
Does anyone know anything about Mike Stagg, the Democratic candidate for Louisiana-7? He wrote a promising-sounding comment to Greg Anrig’s post on GOP cronyism over at TPMCafe. In part:
Which of course sounds like a slightly more B-school-friendly version of the control fraud government that James Galbraith has lately been warning us about. If we are to have a chance to start cleaning out the Bushean stables over the next Congress or two, we’ll need some people around who can keep a bigger view in mind amid the distraction of all the buried nuggets —I use the term loosely— that have to be hiding in that much shit.
Good Morning, and greetings from a still dark East Coast. Comfortable temperatures in the 50’s, and I think it’s a little foggy. I know it’s quiet and peaceful, so I’ll send along best wishes for a great day for all. Blessings.
Hey, don’t feel too bad about Georgia. At least they weren’t the last state to abolish slavery. That honor goes to Mississippi, where slavery was officially abolished in 1995.
Maybe more liberals and progressives should move their voting selves down south. Try turning the red to purple, at least. I’m not volunteering, however.
…and everybody knows about Mississippi—God-damn!
(from Mississippi Goddamn, which you’ll find somewhere in Nina Simone’s repertoire.)
ps: Well look-a-here, here’s a you-tube video. The song’s from a civil rights era musical.
QBU @
213
GOOG MORNING11 HI os, p-dragon! Hello QBU…
I woke up with a good positiv vie of life (i actually slept eight hours!). MMMmmmm, just sipped the first coffee of the day….
Better attitude, but poor spelling skills….
Edit function not working — what it should have said:
immanentize @
215
Coffee beginning to kick in.
prostratedragon –
One of my colleagues is a civil war buff — big Union Club man as well. He told me once that he was in Mississippi talking to a judge from Jackson who was also interested in the civil war. My friend told him at the bar after the conference, “You know, Mississippi supplied the most soldiers of any Confederate State to the Union Army?” The Judge looked at him sort of incredulous/shocked and then he smiled, “Ah, you are talking about our black residents….”
Why Imm, that’s almost as good as Ann Richards’ “Mrs. Miles”.
Morning, everybody!
Woohoo, eight hours’ sleep for imm — things looking up already! My ISP doesn’t wanna play nice this morning, so no telling what falls off the shelf next here. But I do espy some interesting headlines already, so here goes . . .
NYT and WaPo both lede with Arar.
NYT: Canadians Fault U.S. for Its Role in Torture Case
By IAN AUSTEN
OTTAWA, Sept. 18 — A government commission on Monday exonerated a Canadian computer engineer of any ties to terrorism and issued a scathing report that faulted Canada and the United States for his deportation four years ago to Syria, where he was imprisoned and tortured.
The report on the engineer, Maher Arar, said American officials had apparently acted on inaccurate information from Canadian investigators and then misled Canadian authorities about their plans for Mr. Arar before transporting him to Syria.
“I am able to say categorically that there is no evidence to indicate that Mr. Arar has committed any offense or that his activities constituted a threat to the security of Canada,” Justice Dennis R. O’Connor, head of the commission, said at a news conference.
The report’s findings could reverberate heavily through the leadership of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which handled the initial intelligence on Mr. Arar that led security officials in both Canada and the United States to assume he was a suspected Al Qaeda terrorist. […]
WaPo: Canadian Was Falsely Accused, Panel Says
After Tip From Ally, U.S. Sent Muslim to Syria for Questioning
By Doug Struck
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, September 19, 2006; A01
TORONTO, Sept. 18 — Canadian intelligence officials passed false warnings and bad information to American agents about a Muslim Canadian citizen, after which U.S. authorities secretly whisked him to Syria, where he was tortured, a judicial report found Monday.
The report, released in Ottawa, was the result of a 2 1/2-year inquiry that represented one of the first public investigations into mistakes made as part of the United States’ “extraordinary rendition” program, which has secretly spirited suspects to foreign countries for interrogation by often brutal methods.
The inquiry, which focused on the Canadian intelligence services, found that agents who were under pressure to find terrorists after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, falsely labeled an Ottawa computer consultant, Maher Arar, as a dangerous radical. They asked U.S. authorities to put him and his wife, a university economist, on the al-Qaeda “watchlist,” without justification, the report said. […]
Old Sow @ 218
Nothing is that good — I told it three times yesterday (twice to friends in Texas who knew Ann but had, like me, never heard the story before).
LOTUS — opens petals and bursts into color!
Good morning!
Lotus — the story of the innocent guy wrongly tortured is a GREAT counterbalance to Bush’s transfer of the 14 “terrorsts” to Guantanemo.
1,266 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Mornin’ Firepups, take a deep breath, have some coffe and go kick some fascist butt taday!! Oh Lotus…bless yer heart, I been workin’ Med/Surg all nite so I can’t chat…hold up my end this AM while I sleep, kid.
KEEP THE FAITH AND BELIEVE NONE A WHATCHA HEAQR AND ONLT HALF A WHATCHA SEE!!!
“Wave of Party Switchers Hits Republicans”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091806D.shtml
Mornin’, FirePups, hope everybody slept well.
Under deadline here with contract work, and Momster in town visiting…going to be hard to get my FDL fix today. Sure hope nothing BIG happens while I’m pounding the keys for work.
Rayne, May I say how much I gain by reading your comments. First, you are literate!! Second, passionate, and third, right on!!
Many thanks……..
and more from the truthout site:
Deadly harvest of cluster bombs in Lebanon….
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091806C.shtml
Or a cheerful (not) pronouncement on global warming…
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/091806EA.shtml
WOOHOO, it’s NORSKE AND RAYNE at the cracka dawn!
Hey, my unexpected dahlin’s!
NPR trying to explicate/defuse the Pope’s little grenade….Commentator from the Vatican trying to make it that the Pope was saying that religion and reason need each other….says the real targets were Western intellectuals…opponent (James Reston)says the Pope should have known better…
OS, good on you for speaking truth to Rayne!
You know, sometimes I think, “Now who on FDL is the one Pup I just couldn’t stand to do without?” But by the time I get anywhere at all down that line, I see that my slate of candidates has to include essentially the whole houseful.
Incredible. (Or mebbe “Unbefuckinlievable,” imm?)
Have a gander at (just above-the-fold) Times of London this morning, y’all:
‘Lying leader’ protests erupt
Angry demonstrators in Budapest stormed the state TV station and demanded the resignation of Hungary’s Prime Minister after he admitted lying ‘morning, evening and night’ in a leaked tape played on state radio
‘Afghanistan tougher than we expected’
British Defence Secretary admits Nato underestimated Afghan resistance
Mick Smith weblog: brinkmanship
Shia watchdogs ’spy for death squads’
‘Popular committees’ set up in Najaf by powerful Iraqi Shia political party without Government consent
Militants threaten to kill Pope
Security around St Peter’s Square remained tight as al-Qaeda militants in Iraq vowed to ‘conquer Rome’
Wolfowitz reined in
Wealthy nations assert their right to oversee the World Bank president’s anti-corruption campaign
Army’s first live recruit
An art student slipped past guards and became the terracotta army’s first recruit in over 2000 years
etc., etc.
Mornin’ all!
Ambassador Bolton calls Chimpy before the speech to the U.N.
Of course he denies that. That’s what all the Kloset Klansmen of the GOP are doing. They’re throwing big steaming chunks of red meat to their loyal base of low-information voters and then…
RIGHT ON….
“These people come over here to make a better way of life, not to blow us up,” complained Keith Slater, who keeps a portrait of Ronald Reagan on the wall. “I’m a die-hard Republican, but I think we missed the boat with this one.”
TRANSLATION…THIS HITS MY POCKET BOOK YOU SUCKAS….
It is to the South’s eternal shame that we apparently don’t know how to have business and industry here without an exploited underclass of black and brown people. We made slavery illegal, so the Good Old Boy network just forestalled integration for as long as they could and continued to exploit black labor. Then came the 60’s and the Civil Rights movement. Some things changed, but not enough. Now, in 2006, white business has found a new group of brown people to subjugate, Latino immigrants. They’ll work for $2 an hour! Why pay more more/
AMEN SLAVERY DID NOT DIE IT MORPHED ITO ANYONE THEY CAN SUBHUMANIZE…THEY START YOUNG IN GRAMMER SCHOOL..RAN TO CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS AFTER INTERGRATION..THUS THE WONDER CHRISTIAN FOLKS WE HAVE NOW….
And here’s the above-the-fold stuff at The Guardian:
150 injured as Hungarians riot
Protesters storm state television HQ to demand resignation of PM who admitted his government lied.
Audio: Daniel McLaughlin, Budapest
World news guide: Hungary
More world news
Labour admits Afghanistan errors
UK underestimated Taliban, says defence secretary.
19 killed in suicide bombings
Special report: Afghanistan
The denial industry
George Monbiot on how oil firms fund climate change deniers.
More from Environment
Iraq in danger of civil war, warns UN chief
World: Secretary general, Kofi Annan, issues bluntest warning to date ahead of crucial UN assembly.
Special report: Iraq
Pope has joined US crusade, says Iran
The Pope: Response marks setback to 25 years of diplomacy.
‘A man with little sympathy for other faiths’
Audio: Michael Hooper in Rome (4m 32s)
Special report: the Pope
How bad is Pope Benedict XVI?
Arrrrrh! Mateys, and good mornin’ to ye all.
*ahem* I’ve got the coffee brewing, and it’s “International Talk like a Pirate Day” and to link this to politics
From Word of the Day.
star-nosed mole
A panda cub yawns
And over at The Independent:
Gaza: The children killed in a war the world doesn’t want to know about
Jihad Abu Snaima is just the most recent of more than 37 children under 18 who have been killed in the operations mounted by the Israeli military in Gaza since 25 June, according to new figures.
Public know real from phoney liberals, says Campbell
Sir Menzies Campbell has branded David Cameron a “phoney” liberal as his party’s conference begins.
Budapest rioters storm TV station
Protesters clashed with police after the PM admitted the government “lied morning, evening and night” about the economy.
Iran cheers first Muslim’s journey into space
Chirac calls for threat of Iran sanctions to be lifted
Bush blocks campaign to put pressure on Sudan
British soldier wounded in Basra
Koizumi’s hawkish heir apparent worries Japan’s neighbours
Raw Story has this:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0918.html
This needs LOTS more attention Lakers.
Good morning, all. Boy, this Texas gal is feeling the loss of Ann Richards today. Don’t know why exactly except the last thing we need right now is the loss of someone who was pure light.
Eugene Robinson gets it right (Torture Is Torture) in today’s WaPo.
Here’s an excerpt, emphasis mine:
It’s past time to stop mincing words. The Decider, or maybe we should now call him the Inquisitor, sticks to anodyne euphemisms. He speaks of “alternative” questioning techniques, and his umbrella term for the whole shop of horrors is “the program.” Of course, he won’t fully detail the methods that were used in the secret CIA prisons — and who knows where else? — but various sources have said they have included not just the infamous “waterboarding,” which the administration apparently will reluctantly forswear, but also sleep deprivation, exposure to cold, bombardment with ear-splitting noise and other assaults that cause not just mental duress but physical agony. That is torture, and to call it anything else is a lie.
It is not possible for our elected representatives to hold any sort of honorable “debate” over torture. Bush says he is waging a “struggle for civilization,” but civilized nations do not debate slavery or genocide, and they don’t debate torture, either. This spectacle insults and dishonors every American.
Here’s the link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00995.html
JCB–so why are we not surprised? This admin and its lackeys across the pond will stir up any little terror bounce it can when it seems suitable. And wasn’t a Lamont win enough to scare the bejesus out of the thugs to cause them to ratchet up the fear?
Good morning, everyone…Rain for sure today – the sun was the most beautiful shade of deep coral verging on red as I left the house this morning.
Still trying to figure out why there needs to be any response to the president on this detainee treatment thing other then “no,” but the word is that McCain will have news to report this morning. Shall we take bets on how much caving the triumvirate of Warner-McCain-Graham does? I am not optimistic.
Completely off-topic, but did anyone watch “Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip” last night? Another smart show from the people who brought you The West Wing.
And the Steelers got goose-egged by the Jaguars last night…always a good day when the Steelers lose (Ravens fan here…the 2-0 Ravens)…
Arrrrrh matey backatcha, beardy! (Gee, you don’t even hafta go hunt up a costume, do ya? Y’already a pirate.)
twolfie! ‘Pon my word, that is the most spectacular schnozz possible on this globe. Thanks for the panda-yawn too. At the end of NBC News last evening, they showed the out-takes from one of their reporters’ visit to Wolong. Here were all these curious cubs (already about half the largish reporter’s size) milling around all over him, having little investigative tastes of this & that. Hilarious! Maybe they’ve got it up on msnbc.com by now?
twolf1 @ 230
Arrrghhh, but that’s a great photo!
GO RAVENS, Anne! Heh!
Thanks, thunder — I wouldna wanted to miss that one!
How d’you DO dat, twolf?
JCB @ 236
Read this last night. Wouldn’t you love to see Lt. Col. Nigel Wylde interviewed on Olbermann?
Ohhh…twolf…thanks for that laugh…only thing missing was the glasses.
If only he weren’t just that clumsy and oafish as a “diplomat.”
JCB and OS, I’m trying to recall who-all around here was nailing it last month much the same as this Raw Story piece does today. Several of our folks, wasn’t it? Mighty hard to ride ahead of this cavalry.
alittlemusicalityplease @
244
Let’s make it so. This needs to cross KO’s desk.
mccain is concidering a compromise bill regarding torture
we MUST prevent ANY bill from redifining the Genevea convention
we are NOT the geneva convention
if the president succeeds in redefining ANYTHING, he will claim imunity becuase there “were no clear rules” before the compromise
this is NOT acceptable
even if the compromise is benign, it CANNOT be allowed BECUASE it will give the preisdent the loophole he needs to mount a defense if he is charged with violating the treaty
IMPORTANT
raw story is telling us we are allready engaged in Iraq
HAS CONGRESS APPROVED WAR IN IRAQ?
no, it has not
time for the congress to reclaim their power…republcian AND democrat will rally around this position
Wouldn’t you love to see Lt. Col. Nigel Wylde interviewed on Olbermann?
From your mouth to KO’s producer’s ears, li’lmusic! And step on it!
lotus @ 246
It’s true. You gotta get up pretty early to scoop this team.
But if we can’t scoop it, we CAN give it legs. This needs to be the scandal du jour.
lotus @ 249
I’m on it.
And then there’s this: Seven Days and Still Counting in Edwards Race
There’s more…
alittlemusicalityplease @ 251
Kindly quote what you send and provide a link to K’s mail address. Then we can all pile on.
Balrog @ 247
Sorry to quote myself, but:
If we can get this story into the mainstream, it’s going to be huge.
How many Rethuglican leaning men are already pissed that they can’t bring their flask of Cognac on board the plane? How many Rethug leaning women feel the same about their Chanel No. 5 (and their Tequila)?
All because of a sham terrist story.
Shout it to the heavens, people!
Ignore the polls and play to win this fall.
me to me @ 248
Me to me, thanks for your blunt presentation. There’s hardly ever even a moment to breathe trying to keep up with the GOP opposition to the US. Aaargh!!!
twolf1 @
230
707!!!! That’s perfect!
Morning folks,
Nice crisp morning in Vermont.
TRex, first laugh of the day, every day.
Thanks for that (crazy-making) story, Anne. Weird little move the online Sun does, though: let us see the whole story in original format but then say, “Want it printer-friendly, do you? Better subscribe then.” WTF? Are they trying to match the ethos of MD politics or something?
Donna’s camp must be ready to spit nails by now. This passage is especially disagreeable:
Good morning, Steve and everybody else.
Hmmm…. – “Least Enlightened Commonwealths” ! “Ignorance Capital of the USA!” – I have a problem with those labels in this otherwise good and informative piece.
One of the single smartest human beings I have ever known was from rural Georgia. She wound up on the teaching faculty of one of the elite medical institutions in the country. Thus I have a problem with the attitude of this article, but still appreciate T-Rex and what he is trying to accomplish.
If you believe that calling one race of people by their historic and horrible epithets is wrong, then you really should also guard against dismissing masses of people simply because they come from a particular state.
We are trying to win popular elections these days, and moreover, your blog as well as Firedog Lake exist to enlighten people. You bring people to the light by showing respect. Yes there are idiots in Georgia, and yes there are politicians who represent the absolute worst in humanity and got elected by praying on the sum of everyone’s fears, but that has happened in every state in the country at least once.
Light candles, Friends. Resist cursing the darkness and/or stooping to a level we don’t want to go.
You may now verbally assualt me at will.
Thank you.
CNN just said chimpy’s JAR is now at 45%. My question – who are these people that keep changing their minds about the idiot chimp?
Ooops, we done busted at the seams with news this morning.
“He will,” the man replied.
THAT is chilling. And that is what we have come to expect of the GOP cabal–dishonesty and dissembling 24/7. Rats making good food into garbage. Disgusting.
Had Enough?
Expect no assault from this Mississippian, Tug. Just my thanks.
And what International Talk Like a Pirate day would be complete without a viewing or two of George Harrison singing The Pirate Song….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSIjlUMV6Is
lotus @ 259
I don’t think The Sun has it in for anyone…you’d just have to register – which is free – to have the ability to print.
Arrrrrrr…
HAR, imm! Ooop, I mean, ARRRRRH!
Imm, what planet am I on that I missed this one before? LOL
G’Morning, Everyone.
I’m still trying to figure out the real differences between the Warner-McCain-Graham Millitary Commissions Bill http://balkin.blogspot.com/War…..mFINAL.pdf and Bush’s Millitary Commissions Bill http://www.law.georgetown.edu/…..ssions.pdf
The President already has the ability to hold detainees indefinitely without a trail. So the only thing a trial give him is the ability to execute a detainee. On the surface the only difference is whether those pre-execution trials will be real trials where of Kafka-esque show trials.
Both bills do away with habeas corpus.
Both bills hold that “the Geneva Conventions are not a source of judicially enforceable individual rights.”
Both bills replace interpret the prohibitions of Common Article 3 against “outrages against personal dignity” to refer only to a short explicitly enumerated list of actions, like rape, mutilation, etc.
Both bills retroactively indemnify “young professionals” and their bosses against prosecution for actions that this bill legalizes.
To me it seems like the Warner-McCain-Graham bill is simply a red herring. In the Rose Garden, on Friday Bush said that “the program [of torture-like interrogations] is not going forward” unless he gets a bill that guts Common Article 3 more than Warner-McCain-Graham does. Why in God’s name should anyone be trying to appease him? Shutting down that program is exactly what any right-thinking person would want.
Ultimately Bush is going to come to a compromise with Warner, McCain, and Graham and the bill is going to stink. What are the Democrats going to do then. Like I said in the beginning, the only thing that can prevent a disaster here is a Democratic filibuster. And remember two-thirds of the Democratic senators are NOT up for re-election this year. They can filibuster and without risk.
chimpy’s JARRRRRRRR went up ARRRRRRRRGGGG
Coulda sworn I’ve registered with the Sun before, Anne … well, who knows. Anyhow, I did get to see the whole story, apparently, though naught of it made happy reading.
new thread
EPUd comment on the Warner-McCain-Graham bill.
Old Sow @
227
The real targets were Western intellectuals?????? Oh yeah, riiiiight. We have soo many of those. Now we have some “Western intellectuals” (including the trusted bobbleheads on teevee) pontificating about how uncivilized the Muslim reaction is! “Tolja they were violent!!!”
This was a heinous thing he did, imho.
good morning.
Hi, Wigwam.
You’d think a goodly number of Republicans would want in on that filibuster, too — except that rafts of ‘em have completely blown off their oaths of office.
Dunno why we still call Goopers “red” these days, since their operative color is “RAT.” (With apologies to hard-working rodents everywhere.)
Balrog–
Couldn’t find a direct email address for KO, so I sent the following email to countdown@msnbc.com.
Dear Mr. Olbermann:
When the story of a foiled plot to blow up commercial aircraft bound for America using liquid explosives broke in the American media – just as Connecticut’s Democratic primary was taking place — you responded with a commentary called The Nexus of Politics and Terror (Aug.14th).
Raw Story posted an article yesterday that is the perfect follow-up to your commentary:
British Army expert casts doubt on ‘liquid explosives’ threat, Al Qaeda network in UK Identified
Lieutenant-Colonel (ret.) Nigel Wylde, a former senior British Army Intelligence Officer, has suggested that the police and government story about the “terror plot” revealed on 10th August was part of a “pattern of lies and deceit.”
I’d love to see you interview Lt. Col. Wylde, a retired senior officer in British Intelligence and expert on liquid explosives, who says:
“The idea that these people could sit in the plane toilet and simply mix together these normal household fluids to create a high explosive capable of blowing up the entire aircraft is untenable,” said Lt. Col. Wylde, who was trained as an ammunition technical officer responsible for terrorist bomb disposal at the Royal Army Ordnance Corps in Sandhurst.”
The link to the full story is here:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0918.html
***
Balrog and other fdlers, if you want to go back and review Keith’s NNexus of Politics and Terror commentary, it’s posted at C&L and here’s the link:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..nd-terror/
Morning all — new thread.
In 1966, I did time in Georgia (basic training, Ft. Benning). After that it was Ft. Rucker, Alabama. In 1967, I volunteered for Viet Nam to get out of the region…best move I ever made. fuckthesouth.com …check it out.
Can’t believe I missed a good Georgia rant.
T-Rex
I didn’t read through all the comments so I apologize if this has already been mentioned. Do you think “their loyal base of low-information voters ” have forgotten Sonny’s bait and switch on the flag or will they bend over just for the pleasure of squealing like piggies? Also have you commented on the story where poser Cox isn’t going to support Taylor even though Diebold didn’t show her much love?
I’m not from Georgia but I got here as soon as I could. I moved here from Illinois but let’s not all get too cozy about this Red State-Blue State BS.
“Martin Luther King, Jr., was indeed struck by a rock on an open-housing march on Chicago’s Southwest Side in the summer of 1966. But that event took place in Marquette Park and not Gage Park as is often reported. King was hit on August 5,1966, and later he said that he had “never seen as much hatred and hostility on the part of so many people.””
What bullshit, like there is no racism or stupidity anywhere else in this country. I volunteered for the Nam to get out of Ft Lewis!
tbob @
279
debunker @ 142
the only difference being that Ohioans will, on occasion, become outraged and vote out corrupt politicians. In Georgia (and elsewhere in the South), they just keep re-electing them, treating their corruption as a badge of honor.
TRex @
156
Hey, are you talking about Poppy Brite? She used to live next to my girlfriend at the time. It was a “duplex” and I put that in quotes, because it was really a glorified partitioned refrigerator box. The walls got soggy when it rained.
It was over behind Boulevard, I think. This was in the late 80s/early 90s.
Hey! I live over on Boulevard!
MasonMcD @
285
Boulevard in Athens? Didn’t know there were other Athens folks here. I’m over on Milledge Terrace, myself.
raven316 @
286
Indeed, I am talking about Poppy Z. Brite. And I remember that apartment on Boulevard. These days I live about a block and a half from there.
I didn’t know I was among such close neighbors, here! Hello, friends!
>
Okay, now THAT’S funny.
Jim
Tug @
260
Kudos, Tug. No assault coming from this corner. The state that gave us Coretta Scott, Max Cleland and Jimmie Carter and a hell of a lot of over great people has no reason to keep it’s head down. Scoundrels and idiots flourish in all fifty states and around the globe.
TRex @
288
We live across BLVD from Roosters next to the purple house with yellow trim! A friend told me you were from Athens and I said. . .nahhhhhh! Hello to you. Raven is our little black cocker, he’s at Big City Bread every morning.
One of Sonny (BubbaBoob) Perdue’s first actions as governor of Georgia was to close down the convenient drivers license renewal facilities which had been establiahed in large grocery stores in suburban areas. Drivers were forced to return to standing in line for up to 3 or 4 hours at ratty state facilities for their quadrennial renewal.
Finally, a lowly state worker suggested the state initiate license renewal via the internet but not before Bubba and the Repugs’s popularity took a big hit.
Plutonious Monk @ 292
His regime is another example of what happens when the same party takes the executive mansion and both legislative houses. And now the Georgia Chamber of Commerce is trying to put elephantine poseurs into our appellate courts.
As to the complaints about Sonny: he did a fine job publicly snipping a puppy dogs ‘nads on teevee during Spay and Neuter Month.
It could be worse. You could have some guy from Connecticut, who went to junior high in Georgia, talking trash to the whole world from the oval office in a bad Georgia accent, thus pissing off the entire planet at your state. Aren’t you glad that none of the wannabe’s from your state are addressing the U.N. today?