Connecticut’s largest union has switched its endorsement from Turncoat Joe to endorse Ned Lamont’s candidacy for the US Senate:
One of the state’s largest labor unions has dropped its endorsement of U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman and switched its support to Democratic primary winner Ned Lamont….
Sal Luciano, the executive director of Council 4, announced the endorsement Sunday, saying that the union wants to see a congressional delegation able to stand up to the Bush administration.
"Since the Aug. 8 primary, we paid close attention to the remarks of both men," Luciano said. "We saw Joe Lieberman moving closer and closer to Bush, while Ned Lamont held firm in his strong opposition to the direction Bush is taking us."
Council 4 is a politically active union that represents 35,000 members and is the state’s largest affiliate of the AFL-CIO….
"In the end, our delegates realized that it boiled down to a simple question: Which candidate will stand up to George Bush and Dick Cheney?" Luciano said. "That candidate is Ned Lamont and only Ned Lamont."
One wonders what Cub Labor Leader Jimmy Olsen, head of CT’s AFL-CIO thought of the switch to supporting Ned Lamont, since until now he’s been bragging that the whole union would salute under whatever banner Lieberman was running — because, as Olsen said, he runs the show. Sounds to me like the Cub Labor Leader salute has gone a bit limp, and that he has a mutiny in the ranks with which to contend.
So much for that co-opted union leadership on which the Lieberman campaign was counting…looks like the rank and file have had enough of Lieberman being George Bush’s rubber stamp.
MSNBC is reporting today that Al D’Amato and Michael Bloomberg have been hosting fundraisers for Lieberman. I have no doubt that our New York readers have a very good idea of what a D’Amato fundraiser entails as far as attached strings. (Reader mc found a link to an AP wire story on the NYC fundraiser that D’Amato is co-chairing with Bloomberg for CTforLieberman.) Any questions about Turncoat Joe?
(H/T to reader cosmo and TPM Cafe for the Hartford Courant link.)
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Rootz! Say NO to torture! Say YES to the Geneva Conventions!
Sweet!
Heard Karl Rove is going to host a fish fry and Atomic Wedgie demonstration as a fundraiser for Holy Joe
Twisted — funny you should mention Rove. He’s fundraising for Tom Kean’s son in NJ today. (Payback for the 9/11 movie involvement of Daddy? Well…hmmm…isn’t that an interesting question?)
Senator Lamont will be the victor this autumn. And the Democrats will take back Congress this fall. As for the Republicans? “You can tell it goodbye!” In the words of famous SF Giants baseball announcer Lon Simmons, while the home team was hitting hit a ‘homer’.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 4
Will there be Atomic Wedgies?
Al D’Amato? Lamont ought to be able to get some mileage out of that.
Speaking of PT9/11: Cyrus has an extraordinarily dishonest whine in that WSJ online operation. He claims he’s not an ideologue, not even political, barely knows Rush Limbaugh, and has received death threats for daring to tell the truth about Bill Clinton’s non-repsonse to terrorism (although this doesn’t appear in the article: It may be the WSJ people who put that in a headline) Apparently they’ve taken down the firewall so all the trools can read it.
Oh, and Joe’s position on Iraq?
Give him another week:
Actually, he has a little less than two months to complete his meltdown. Godspeed, lil’ Joey!
Maybe Cub Labor Leader Olson’s limp salute needs to be introduced to Sy Allis.
YAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Thanks Christy!!!!
I wonder if the dozen or so Unions who still support Joe will now reconsider?
This is great news in word and deed. I hope this will contribute a lot of added effort to GOTV for Lamont. Thank you AFSCME CT for your courage.
What great news!
OT– George Allen loses things completely on stem cell research and Stephanopoulos asks him then what about IVF and the racist wants IVF but no stem cell research.
Webb supports stem cell research and brings up Nancy Reagan and her support for it and then Allen says that Webb should have respected Nancy when “she asked” him to take down his ad.
hilarious.
Now I am pro Webb, but Allen looks crappy next to this guy. Webb is totally winning this, imho. The audience applauds after Webb speaks, not for Allen! YAY!
OT, way way OT,
Did anyone see this from yesterday?
“Corn Denies Charge in ‘WSJ’ That He Outed Plame”E&P
Twisted Martini @ 6
Aren’t those Nukular Wedgies?
The other day it was Gov. Ann Richards. Today it’s Patricia Kennedy (dead at 82), President Kennedy’s sister. Ms. Kennedy was a tireless worker for the Democratic Party. She was a very good human being. Again I am sad.
OK kiddo: or “Bye, bye, baby!” as Russ always put it. (Those were the days – not that the Giants ever won the Series!) Why am I now being earwormed by “When the Giants come to town”?
What will it take for the Dems to figure out that the voters will back them up, if they can just tell us what they stand for – not Lamont, but Obama and Rahm and company?
This is huge. Being able to count on labor in CT is an enormous boost to Lamont, and it must be making Lieberman’s head explode.
Yet another testament to how well-run the Lamont campaign is. This was an extremely difficult thing to pull off against an 18 year incumbent and state party boss who thought he had labor in the bag.
High fives all around.
Hey, if Lieberman has Al D’Amato on his side, that means he can still count on the endorsement of the Human Rights Campaign – they just LOVE Alphonse D’Amato!
The HRC’s endorsement of D’Amato over Chuck Schumer, back in the day, was what opened my eyes to this whole “national organizations playing politics with endorsements” fiasco in the first place. I haven’t given them a penny since that day.
Even more OT: my brother has been producing prints for the last few years, one of which is currently sitting in my entryroom hall:
http://www.sitemason.com/page/hSopYk
It’s even more detailed in person. I feel kind of silly for not pointing his stuff out beforehand, as he’s been doing progressive artwork for years (and it’s not just me that says it: http://www.vanderbiltorbis.com…..e2436b720f)
So anyway, if you feel like taking a look at some progressive prints, check out my brother Paul: http://www.sitemason.com/page/cYwPRu
Christy, Word has it that Junior Kean will not be with Karl tonight due to “legislative business”, much like he got “stuck in traffic” when Dick Cheney was here. I picked that up off bluejersey.net.
When did Al D’Amato come crawling out from under his rock? I thought he went into oblivion?
OT but worth reading
The ID Chip You Don’t Want in Your Passport
Schneir’s blog
OT– George is completely nutso! He is praising the convention center in Iraqi Kurdistan and advocates an Alaska perm fund for Iraq (with a goofy grin on his face)
Webb says that Iraqi Kurdistan is creating a big problem for Iraq proper and Turkey too and then Allen whines– “do you have to be so negative all the time?”
Webb answers question on his 27 yr ago women thing and does well and gets applause.
Allen says you ‘wrote those words, and written words are ones you think about (unlike the spoken macaca, eh?) and you disrespected Nancy Reagan.’
omg– Webb says, “Well, george I guess this is Macaca payback” LOL– applause!
Al D’Amato … hosting fundraisers for Lieberman.
Birds of a feather, lobbyist loving-wise:
OT jmba from early thread@102 –
Good for you. Then toss back at him what has reportedly been actually happening when they use women interrogators – at least on occassion. I can’t remember the name of the book, but it’s something like “Love My Gun More Than You” about a female soldier’s experiences in Iraq and look at some of the GITMO stories.
The Conventions rely on what would be considered humiliating or degrading under the laws of civilized nations, and under our US war crimes act, you can’t really find a situation where merely being questioned by a woman is an issue.
However,what about stripping Muslim men down and forcing them to masturbate in front of a woman? Does he really have some lingering question about whether that is fine? What about having women rub on and practically give lap dances to men, smear them with red fluid and say it is their menstrual blood – and then ask him – what does that do to the women we have serving?
I think that woman soldier’s book pretty much indicates it made her feel like dirt and she also walked away certain that the “suspect” she had been used to interrogate would definitely hate the US after that interrogation – even if they hadn’t before it. There’s a clue – when the interrogator feels dirty for having participated – probably not good.
OT -
Macaca/Bootsontheground debate.
Allen – what a maroon! has obviously waaay over-practiced the gestures part of his debate with his stand-ins.
Tommy Yum – unbelievable about Joe “needing more time” to think the Iraq thing through.
angie @ 12
That is good news, considering that the audience is the Chamber of Commerce, not exactly a Dem-friendly group.
bbuster @ 25
He’s gonna have to chug a six pack shortly……wonder if Susan has one chilling in the SUV.
http://www.Sore-Loserman.com
Mary @ 26
I mean, it only takes me a few seconds figure out which way the wind is blowing by wetting my finger and stick it up in the air.
P J Evans @ 16
I can still hear Hodges say ” and it’s bye, bye, baby!!!”, on the old Philco radio we had, so many years ago when he was broadcasting from the “Stick”. Russ Hodges: “Voice of the Giants”. Tanks for da memory.
lotus – if you’re here – you’ve got mail (from earlier today, as well as just a couple minutes ago)
OT– Webb gives props to Warner for the high tech boom in NOVA (applause) and then goes on to talk about watching Iraq -> Katrina with the rest of us. “We need solutions– I can bring you experience in many areas” and lists em! Abuse of Constitution gets applause. He’s forceful, strong and clear as can be…
and now they break to the Senate (dammit).
Hope it is replayed later; thanks for indulging me y’all! I hope to goodness we get this very important Dem seat and toss out George and any future chance he might have for a prezidential run.
Has anyone looked at the Joe blog recently? I look at it when I want a laugh, as it is truly the most pathetic piece of crap I have seen.
Hey Felix, maybe Ted Turner is going to make another bad Civil War film that you can play dress-up in. Make sure you tell Ted that Saxby Chambliss would be great as a horse’s ass.
Twisted Martini @ 36
ROTFLMAO!
Now Reid up on the Senate and talking about Rajiv’s article! Dorgan on cspan 3! Seems all the bases are loaded.
windje @ 21
Schneier Rocks!
He actually understands the details of security.
Competence, it’s the new black.
Not only OT but long.
(I’ve been prepping this to fax to “my” Bill Nelson aide, so if there’s any late-breaking news since I was here last (or Mary, if you’re here and don’t like any of my typo-fixes), please sing out ASAP. Otherwise, I’ll soon off to the UPS store to fax this baby.)
Dear Brent Woolfork,
This is your friend in New Smyrna Beach, [lotus], back again. Today I’m writing to ask that Senator Nelson and all of you on his staff do all you can to see that Senators Graham/McCain/Warner’s bill to change the laws dealing with interrogation and the application of the Geneva Conventions to al-Qaeda — to see that neither that bill nor one more to the President’s liking — nor any other similar bill — GOES ANYWHERE before the new Congress is seated in January.
As I hope you already agree, the Graham/McCain/Warner proposal, while more sensible than President Bush’s approach, is nonetheless deeply flawed. Should even more of its force be “compromised” away, the country and its defenders will be courting rolling disaster for the foreseeable future. With a new, more-heavily Democratic Congress on the near horizon, we can do much better, and soon.
I wish to be more specific, but instead of attempting such a complex argument myself, I pass along the assignment to a most respected friend of mine, writing just this morning on Firedoglake.com. Though I do not know her last name or where in Kentucky she lives, “Mary” is (as you’re about to see) perhaps the sharpest of all the excellent lawyers who gather at Firedoglake. Here, she begins by addressing Christy Hardin Smith, another fine attorney whose essay this morning focused on this topic. You can find the full thread at http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..our-voice. Here is Mary’s comment #60, just as it appears there except for a handful of corrected typos. I offer it to you and Senator Nelson as excellent food for thought and fodder for argument in defending our Constitution, our national honor, and the safety of our fellow citizens in harm’s way abroad.
Rest assured that, in this good fight, the true American patriots of Florida — not to mention those of Firedoglake — have your back.
Thank you, and enjoy your notetaking on the rich read to follow.
[lotus]
[lotus’s pond]
New Smyrna Beach, Florida
Mary says:
September 18th, 2006 at 7:58 am [PDT]
… Christy — it’s a lovely post, but I am very concerned that, except for a few places, the only thing getting play/discussion is torture vis a vis the Conventions. There is a tremendously larger picture, and the door has blown wide open for some minor accommodation on torture and then “rejoicing” over the “victory” — as a systemic evisceration of both our criminal justice and military justice codes becomes enshrined.
[Senator] Graham sees a win/win, in my opinion. He can raise this squawk, appease some of his military friends that he is trying to do something, offer up a singleton or deuce area of compromise for the White House to still get all the amnesty it wants and continue with secretive abuses that have no review. But he thinks, “Hey, Bush won’t be around that long. The military wants to clean up so it will, some, as soon as he’s gone — and with the amnesty and no judicial review/no habeas, we won’t have to re-live the abuses that have already happened and tarnish the country and military with them.”
He just forgets the most central posit of both criminal and military justice: accountability.
Bush has NOT gone with military commissions under the much-waved banner (that Graham endorses) that the ideological confrontation as well as the physical one is a “war” (which makes the commissions the “logical” response). Instead, he’s gone for this for two reasons.
First is one that has some minor aspects that need review and consideration — but which has been twisted and abused beyond recognition. The issue is that with the kinds of significant paramilitary attacks/threats posed by some of the “terrorist” groups (and by the way, if someone checks the definitions and lack thereof for what makes a “terrorist” group in the US, THERE is a frighteningly vague matter, if there are worries over vagueness) — [but with these attacks/threats posed,] there is a perceived and possibly/probably real (it’s just the level of depravity of what passes for DOJ’s practice of law in this area leaves me with no trust) need to be able to detain someone, even if there has not been a crime that can be pointed to with clarity.
The only place this concept comes to any fruition under our common-law heritage — with its strong habeas corpus tradition — is “battlefield” detentions by the military. It is the only place where the ability to detain without charges until a “resolution of conflict” can be found.
So what Bush&Co have done is to declare the world a battlefield, an unending battle against terror, and thereby to justify detention with no charges until the memory of man runneth not to the contrary. That’s where military-detention aspects come in. However, standard military-justice aspects didn’t give him what he wanted even there, so . . .
Second concept. “I’m Commander in Chief, I can make the military do anything I want.” Throw in CIA as a part of the Defense Department. With this, Bush has said that he can, by fiat, get rid of the Geneva Conventions requirements:
a) for regularly-constituted tribunals for trials of charges (what went up on Hamdan) and
b) similar standards for review of status under the Conventions (if someone claims they were mistakenly rounded up and are not a “battlefield” or “illegal combatant” detainee — but are, say, a civilian or a POW, etc.)
Now those have been requirements of not only the Geneva Conventions but of our Uniform Code of Military Justice — and Bush just ditched them. Entirely. And he pretty much wants to continue with that. Not only that, he also went with getting rid of requirements:
c) relating to juveniles
d) disallowing tortured and coerced testimony (big heads-up here: this is happening in civil courts as we speak, with Salah and Padilla — Padilla just lost round one on exclusions of torture-testimony)
e) disallowing hearsay, etc. (and here, after years, they laughingly use the ‘battlefield’ justification — no one can stop and collect evidence on the battlefield, doncha know — Google “combatant status review tribunals” and look at the kangaroo court approach for this)
f) requiring that a charged party know the charges and the evidence against them
Okay, so that is all pretty friggin’ bad, but then what? Then Bush and DOJ say, “Hey, isn’t this cool, we can do all kinds of stuff here we can’t do in the real world where they won’t just let us create our own reality. So let’s also say that if the President closes his eyes and clicks his heels three times, US citizens won’t be in criminal courts anymore.
“We can kidnap them in this country and ship covertly — without notification to anyone — to GITMO or wherever, and, with no habeas, apply the exact same ‘no evidence, no need to charge to detain, torture testimony is fine, etc.’ standards.”
The frightening thing is how many of these aspects the Graham Warner bill is willing to keep. To then say they will compromise with the White House to dilute it — that has to just grab you in the gut, even if the torture aspects were not so overwhelming.
Take on no-amnesty and take away any remote kind of standing for someone to have direct recourse, and you also get a situation where anything can be violated and the only recourse is if the Chain of Command orders prosecution of the violations (the Chain of Command headed by the President who says he can do anything he wants whenever he wants).
Whatever happened to Kansas doesn’t matter, because we are not in Kansas anymore.
The fact that people are willing work for these men and pony up their credentials behind this kind of mockery and perversion is astounding.
But even the Grahams (and I think he absolutely and clearly sees each of these issues — whereas McCain seems to be a relatively clueless figurehead who wants to just keep his gravitas on torture) are primarily concerned with not having things come out that will make people look bad — not really about fixing what the President has done. I’m sure he thinks that the military will eventually get around to fixing some of it when Bush is gone.
When has that ever worked for any military — “Let’s just keep going down an immoral subverted path with no accountability for years, because someday we’ll have a better leader, and then it will miraculously all be better”?
But the bigger issue is: When has that ever worked for any civilian government? To hand its citizens (by the way, keep in mind the “enemy combatant” status carries with it a SLEW of things that have never been chargeable military crimes; this was Stevens’ point on the conspiracy charge in Hamdan) over to black-hole military tribunals answerable only to a Commander in Chief who has no oversight?
[Appended as Mary’s comment #64 of the same thread:]
Oh and by the way –
Since when is getting the truth less important than forcing someone to say what you want to hear with torture?
cynicalgirl @ 20
I believe he’s managing director of CA. It used to be known as Computer Associates, and brought in about $5B in revenue in 2005.
Reid is reading from the article and showing the pictures from the wapo– the picture of Bremer on the throne. Now Durbin asking about the medals Bremer and Tenet were given– this is hilarious!
Reid says that you should have a gold medal to go with a throne! But Brownie didn’t get a medal…
OT: Via our friends at Blah3
PNAC Is Closing Its Doors
If political theories have an address, the address of neo-conservatism reads 1150 17th Street NW, Washington, DC. There on the fifth floor in rather ordinary-looking offices reside a half dozen right-wing intellectuals, who supply a steady stream of arguments for the propagation of democracy and a world dominated by America. The little club is called The Project for the New American Century . In 1997 nearly every important American neoconservative signed the club’s founding charter. The thinking that evolved here then circulated amongst a group of friendly think tanks. With the election of George Bush to the presidency and especially after 9/11, the significance of the think tank increased, even if the staff size remained small. Neo-conservatism was a dominant force in American foreign policy, and the network of friends had become a network of power.
Now, nine years later, the Project for the New American Century is closing – due to a shortage of funds, it is said. Those that remain there are looking for work. Their ranks are thinning. The New American Century has taken too long to arrive. An ideology is packed up and in moving crates. One couldn’t have a sight more pregnant with symbolism.
[snip]
Must not be able to pay the electric bill anymore…
C-SPAN 2 has Durbin and Reid talking about lack of congressional oversight.
Great job, lotus – kind of hard to ignore the points raised…hope it gives them a sleepless night or two, and hope it reinforces for them that we are paying attention, and we do know what’s going on, and we can see the forest for the trees.
And, with the link to FDL, I hope they are inspired to do a lot of reading (and acting accordingly!).
Dr. Bong @ 41
My guess is they’re reorganizing under a newer, secret-er handle. No more web page to throw back in their face.
That PNAC closing is about 3-month-old news now. I recall linking to it waaaaay back in the earlyish summer.
tommy yum @
8
Needs more time? Huh? Why don’t they just look at what he has been saying all along: “I’m Pro-Iraq War and
screw you Connecticut if you don’t like itand we shall agree to disagree.”Or does he get to do this over too?
And, with the link to FDL, I hope they are inspired to do a lot of reading (and acting accordingly!).
A SPECIAL amen to that one, Anne — and thanks.
angie @ 40
Maybe Rev. Moon will let them borrow his crown and cool robe?
I’m streaming the CSPAN-3 war profiteering hearings and my hair is on FIRE. I can’t even breathe.
You are very, very funny Twisted Martini! :O
I know meta!!!
lotus @ 45
… I should know better than to think I could be a step ahead of our lovely flowah!
:-)
Twisted Martini @ 48
I think it is already on loan to George FELIXX Allen…
angie @ 50
This Halliburton story has GOT to be heard by every single American. I’m choked up by the woman who was imprisoned by these jerks.
lotus @ 45
Their page is still up, though.
Julie McBride was kept under guard by Halliburton because she spoke up?!?!
Aw pshaw, Bong. ‘Ere.
Their page is still up, though.
Wonder what they’re rilly up to, Lindy. And where.
Christy, sincere apologies for OT, but I don’t have access to Pacer and I am wondering if you or any of the legal savvy types know the status of Robert Kennedy and Mike Panantonio’s Qui Tam suit against Diebold and other electronic voting machine companies that was filed in US District Court on July 13th?
As I understand it, the details of the suit are/were sealed for 60 days while the US Justice Dept decides if it wants to join the suit (as if!), and if Gonzo gives it a pass, then Kennedy’s fim could approach various states attorneys general. If none of them take it then Kennedy’s firm could act as a stand-in for the attorney general and pursue the charge that the companies fraudulently represented that the voting machines were unhackable to various state election boards.
I’ve googled, but can’t find any updates. Sorry I don’t know the case number or names of the parties as filed.
Again, apologies for the off-topicness, but some explosive information could become public once it is no longer under seal (she said wistfully/wishfully).
angie @ 50
Don’t forget to tip your waitresses! I’ll be here all week.
windje @
21
OT but worth seeing!
A Braniff Airways commercial from 1975. The Future of Travel:
http://grouper.com/video/Media…..id=1538562
You don’t have to carry a passport because a friendly computer already knows more about you than you do.
:-)
The roots have MUSCLE! This is the best news all week.
MSNBC is reporting today that Al D’Amato and Michael Bloomberg have been hosting fundraisers for Lieberman.
Out of state Repuglikans seem to be hoping they can force Lieberliar on us.
lotus @ 56
Well, if you look at the names of those involved, you can see what they’re up to…no damned good.
Dorgan’s hearing: Attorney Grayson is blistering with his indictment of bushco! Everybody ought to hear this thing…
veruca@59
Very kewl – made me think of the 1964 Worlds Fair
Kean, Jr.’s campaign is saying he won’t make it to the karl Rove fundraiser at 21 in NYC tonight. They are emphasizing that it was not a fundraiser just for Kean, but also other local Repug candidates — so apparently Joe will be there. {just kidding, kinda}
LindyH @ 62
windje @ 65
Thanks! Were you at the 1964 Worlds Fair or have you just been watching alot of MST3K shorts – like me?
lotus @ 57
Don’t worry, we have the new PNAC:
FDD, the new PNAC with Lieberman, Schumer and other PNAC members…
(from KOS)
Outstanding stuff. Funny how them blue collar types can seperate the wheat from the chaff and come home to basic fundamentals.
That being said, I feel a disturbance in the force. Once I was confident in the mid-terms bringing a return to power those from the reality based community. My confidence wanes. Are voters truly willing to forsake all gains of rights, freedoms and international respect for this criminal regime?
We need to work much harder.
I wonder if Lieberman or Senator Clinton will ever see the light on Iraq and Palestine? And if so, which one of these two will see the light first?
Wow:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001548.php
angie @
22
worthy of the Ann Richards award for today ………..
Oh yeah — did you Webb-Allen aficionad(a)(o)s see not just this story but this photo in NYT today?
Hey Christy!
C-SPAN 2 has the Distinguished Senior Senator from West Virginia, Robert Byrd, speaking for up to a half an hour, on the subject of the constitution . . . he’s off to a slow start, but I’ve got a feeling he’ll get wound up before long. (Gotta pace yourself, at his age!)
veruca @ 67
I went a lot. Lived on Long Island, took the train to Flushing and went through holes in the fence. Very very kewl.
OfT, I was pleasently surprised that Howard Kurtz took my question about Kate O’Beirne:
Howard Kurtz:
angie @ 33
I appreciate your liveblogging it. I’m at work and can’t watch, and I’m not sure I could stand that much of Allen’s macaca anyway.
The union that just endorsed Ned is Council 4 of AFSCME, located in New Britain, Connecticut. If you want to thank them for their brave and wise action, their number is 860-224-4000
windje @ 76
I’m jealous! The 1960’s was just packed gorgeous visions of the future.
Off topic – by way of Raw Story: http://www.indystar.com/apps/p…../609180459
Wilson – have you seen this?
lotus @ 74
Good Lord, he is the real deal.
Dingdingdingdingdiddydiddydiddyding!
Winnah — JOHN CASPER!
I thought that was yours, John @ 77 and gave you mad props on the prior thread!
lotus– thanks for sharing that photo! It’s a beaut and very telling.
lotus @ 74
The other photos there are a great study in contrasts, too! Webb speaking to students in front of a white board vs. Allen playing pretend cowboy.
karen allen @ 79
Thanks Karen, I’m on it.
Take a look at the future “Hitler’s Youth”:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..29703.html
kemo @
82
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Give that photographer and his editor each a Havana cigar…..
True, dat, Redshift.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 71
Neither will. Here’s Sen. Clinton’s May 25, 2005 speech at the annual AIPAC conference:
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/…..08012.html
and Joshua Frank’s November, 2005 article about Clinton’s visit to the Apertheid Wall earlier that month:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov05/Frank1115.htm
I won’t bother with Liebeman. Hopefully, in 1 month, 19 days, 3 hours, 54 minutes, and 26 seconds, Joe will be no mo.
Great article on Webb. I skipped past it this morning but went back thanks to Lotus. “There are no cowboys in Virginia.”
Right you are Jim, just poseurs. Semper Fi.
PNAC closing its doors? Maybe they are just moving because their cover is blown. I’ll be looking for a new name and address for them. They’re not gone, not because of money certainly. This bears watching.
kemo @ 82
Is he a vertically challenged man? It looks like his combat boots don’t reach the floor…
windje @ 76
I was in the Girl Scouts then, and we took the train up from Baltimore to Flushing. Can still remember the thrill of having a hot dog that was cooked in a microwave (that was the future, folks!), and going on the Goodyear Tire ferris wheel!
Is the impression of Webb & Allen’s physical statures that I got on MTP correct — is Allen rather taller (though Webb’s voice is much deeper)? Kinda a dipsy-doodle of sensory effect there.
I see that Lieberman voted for the $3.8 billion for big old companies in the 2005 Energy Policy Act. I hope Ned Lamont uses the vote, and considers one of the YouTube ads that are playing against Deborah Pryce and Conrad Burns.
I just talked with Sal Luciano, the head of Council 4, AFSCME, in CT. He said his parent union head threatened all the unions that they’d better support Lieberman and do as they were told. Congratulations to Mr. Luciano and his union members for supporting the duly elected Democratic candidate, Ned Lamont, for Senator of Connecticut!
Troll @93?
OT Glenn Greenwald slams David Broder, always a worthwhile exercise. I think he may have used a question posed by Teddy SanFran about Whitewater ? Broder has a low tolerance toward Clinton’s blowjobs because it destroyed his credibility. Bush destroying the country? Not so much.
Not a troll, just a Balrog.
fahrender @ 88
Aren’t those Jefferson Davis’s old pair of boots on the left side of the picture?
lotus @ 95
yep!
OK kiddo– saw the Jesus kampers article last nite. blech.
Who was it — scarecrow maybe? — following that electric-power-regulation (or building) angle on Lieberman early this summer? Anybody recall?
itwasntme @
92
They’ve already morphed into “Jesus Camp”……
PNAC > Jesus Camp
Unholy morph there, if ever we saw one, fahr!
Ed*ard Teller @ 100
Why, yes, now that you mention it. Macaca Mouth filched ‘em out of a KKK monstrance while Grover Nordquist warn’t lookin’
Twisted Martini @
99
Trolls can’t blog in daylight.
Anne @ 94
I was there, too. My grandparents had a house in Queens. I rember getting a green plastic dinosaur out of a machine (sponsored by Sinclair, perhaps?).
Why, yes, now that you mention it. Macaca Mouth filched ‘em out of a KKK monstrance while Grover Nordquist warn’t lookin’
fahr in he fines’ fettle t’sevenin’, yessireebob.
lotus @ 105
George W Bush was their Messiah !
lotus @ 104
It’s tha Rapture, sweet thang………..
George W Bush was their Messiah !
Well, ther ya go: S.O.L. agin.
Jesus Camp = madrassah.
Sure and it’s a sad day for ND to have this among us.
OT — Bush heading to UN, Mideast on his mind. Subs preparing for blockading Iran? And what else don’t we know about?
Isn’t there anyone anywhere in the whole of the Republican/military/intelligence community that can grab the keys out of this drunk-with-power, drive-us-into-oblivion President’s hands? Apparently reason doesn’t work.
lotus @ 74
NYT: “The war is not an abstract issue for Mr. Webb. His son, Jimmy, 24, a lance corporal in the Marines, shipped out to Iraq this month. He wears his son’s old combat boots on the campaign trail, in tribute to him and “all the people sent into harm’s way.”
Mr. Webb tells his audiences that the idea came from his son, who noted that Mr. Allen always wore cowboy boots, though “there are no cowboys in Virginia.”
I hope Webb’s son stays safe. Somehow, I don’t think the combat boots are a campaign stunt.
P.S. Christy, thanks for the mention. :)
Well, drop kick me JayEEEsus through the goal posts of liife!!!!
Okay, hearing no objections (prolly ’cause Mary’s not here), I’m off to UPS for a spot o’ faxing. Even gonna favor the unlovely Mel Martinez with one . . .
fahrender @ 103
This one time, at Jesus Camp…
karen allen @
98
I see why you may have thought I was mischievous, but his boots really are suspended 2 inches off the floor. I hope real trolls don’t notice…
PS, loved your work in Animal House and Indiana Jones 1!
a blockade of Iran’s oil ports? has anybody at the Treasury Dept calculated yet what that’ll do to the price of oil per barrel? and for gasoline at the pump?
*ilson46201 @ 109
How messed up is that whole thing? Aren’t we not supposed to worship false idols?
angie…12:12pm… you’re ahead of me. Not surprising though.
The Youtube vid on the these freaks, freaks me out!
Balrog: That was my conjoined twin you saw in Animal House and Indiana Jones.
Prairie Sunshine @ 113
I don’t think we can afford to wait for one of these types to do it – we’re all passengers in this out-of-control-and-heading-for-the-abyss vehicle and if the GOP and the military can’t get through, I think we may have to wrestle the wheel out of his hands ourselves.
The Dark Wraith speaks:
Our occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have become unmitigated disasters, but the average American would not think of using the term “unmitigated disasters” to describe the two situations. Many who would once have had no problem at all with George W. Bush, his policies, and his methods are now beginning to grasp that things are not going well, but they still get virtually all of their information from the mainstream media, which still reactively retouch and soften what their own reporters are seeing on the ground, both in those two miserable countries and in Washington. People know something is wrong, but they don’t know how wrong it is.
We here in the Blogosphere know how wrong things are going, but ours is a selective group: we’re news hounds, we’re information consumers; we’re not only interested, but we’re also interested in finding out. And we’re atypical.
But the tide of public sentiment in the country is shifting; and if my reading is accurate, the shift will be reflected in dramatic fashion come November. This reflects currents affected by forces much deeper than the news of the day, the week, or even the year. Public sentiment, expressed through the political process, has a life of its own. The promoters of one political view or another are only marginally responsible for the tides that ebb and flow. The psychology of the American electorate is a living, sentient beast of its own right; and it behaves by forces that are better understood in long historical retrospect than in anything approaching the currency of a movement of those tides.
[snip]
The Dark Wraith is always a good read…
mc @ 113
you may be sure (about the campaign boots). as we know, this man is a highly decorated Marine himself. i’m sure he loves his son dearly. being able to wear those boots is something very special, symbolic and meaningful to him.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 108
Me, too, me, too!
Those dinosaurs were the kewlest!
OT – Gore Calls For Immediate Freeze on C02 Emissions, Elimination of Payroll Taxes
Al Gore’s speech, NYU Law, 9/18/06
Meanwhile, just over the hill from the North Dakota Christofascist madrassas,
The Echo 9 launching facility for the intercontinental nuclear missile Minuteman III is about 100 miles northwest of Bismarck, North Dakota. Endless fields of sunflowers and mown hay dazzle those who travel there.
snip
On the morning of June 20, 2006, three people dressed as clown arrived at Echo 9. The clowns broke the lock off the fence and put up peace banners and posters. One said: “Swords into plowshares – Spears into pruning hooks.” Then they poured some of their own blood and hammered on the nuclear launching facility.
Fr. Carl Kabat, 72, along with Greg Boertje-Obed, 52, and Michael Walli, 57, were the people dressed as clowns. Carl Kabat is a catholic priest. Greg is an ex-military officer, married and the father of an 11 year old daughter. Mike is a Vietnam vet who has worked with the homeless for decades. Greg and Carl are members of the Loaves and Fishes Community in Duluth. The three are called the Weapons of Mass Destruction Here Plowshares.
They placed a copy of the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, international legal condemnations of nuclear weapons, bibles, rosaries, bread, wine, and a picture of Greg’s daughter on the top of the missile silo.
Then they waited until the air force security forces came and arrested them.
They lost the trial and are awaiting their December sentencing in a ND jail.
Excellent article about this:
http://www.counterpunch.org/quigley09182006.html
Dr. Bong @ 123
Always a favorite of Balrog…
karen allen @ 121
One of my first movie star crushes. Nice knowing you both.
fahrender @ 104
Don’t celebrate the same cast of criminals have simply changed their name and moved to new digs. This time they invited along a few extra vichy dems
http://www.fightingterror.org/
Wow, Bong, balrog, and ET — powerful pieces there! But I really must scoot to my chore, so somebody blindfol’ me befo’ I read again!
A Balrog.
A troll.
Compare and contrast.
Hotel Minibar Keys Open Diebold Voting Machines
On Wednesday we did a live demo for our Princeton Computer Science colleagues of the vote-stealing software described in our paper and video. Afterward, Chris Tengi, a technical staff member, asked to look at the key that came with the voting machine. He noticed an alphanumeric code printed on the key, and remarked that he had a key at home with the same code on it. The next day he brought in his key and sure enough it opened the voting machine.
http://www.correntewire.com/ho…..g_machines
pour me a very stiff drink, doggies..!!!
lotus @ 130
lotus, honey… screw the chores!
‘ere!!
:-)
Twisted: second linky 403 :(
Balrog @ 129
bal, let me in on this action since there are two of ‘em, ok?
howdy ma’am. name’s fahrender, james fahrender…… (that one get’s ‘em every tahm……)
Balrogs are intelligent. Trolls aren’t. Balrogs are corporeal Maiar, like wizards. They are basically wizards in a scarier package. Morgoth, Sauron’s old boss, had a Balrog named Gothmog in charge of his armies.
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos…..d__ork.jpg
Try this linky…
lotus @ 95
Well put, flowah. I’d say he is about 5’9”, but head and shoulders above the competition.
http://www.webb2006.org/galler…..temId=1494
still 403 :(
ok, 3’s a charm.
Jonah Goldberg
Is it just me, or does the cute cubby photo up top remind anyone else of our Christy? Seriously, before I saw the “Cub Scout” on his shirt, I thought it might be a photo of her “Back in the Day”.
seems as though the banning of trolls is absolute, TM– that link does not work either!
Nice picture, dru… thanks for that. As far as the appearance of Webb’s combat boots being above the floor is concerned… he is sitting “hitched up” like a Marine often does!
twolf1 @ 127
That’s it! Gore is now running for president of the United States. And we will be better for it. Much better. He’s going to need a lot of support. Our support. Feingold or Clark for VP.
*ilson is all over the trolls, even if they are disguised as Jonah. Go to google, click images and type “Cave Troll”
Twisted Martini @ 139
Sorry Twisted… not goin’ there – just had lunch. Good thing the first two were 403
:-)
Cleter, yer scarin’ me, lol.
Lamont has a new ad up – and it is a good one. Really fun, but gets the message across loud and clear – Joe Lieberman is a turncoat.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..153442/375
veruca @ 117
Veruca, LOL!
*xyz @ 149
Just saw it. Somebody get a mop, Joey’s head is gonna explode. “They’re making fun of me again!”
Ney resigns from 2 committee posts
The Ohio Republican said in two letters to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., that he would immediately give up his positions as chairman of the Housing and Community Opportunity subcommittee, which oversees the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, and as head of the Franking Commission, which governs lawmakers’ use of public money to express opinions in mailings.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..mmittees_1
Cozumel @ 152
I was just inspired…”Ney Ney go away, come again another day…”
Margot @ 150
stop giggling! I lost my virginity to another male camper at a summer Church Camp. Oh, what a friend we have in Jesus!
*xyz @ 149
Thanks *xyz, that’s a GREAT ad!
but not from Congress?
Ney that is
Jacqrat @
143
maybe she has a brother…..
I just watched the Jesus Kamp video… we are in deep doo doo.
The Dorgan hearing was also bothersome.
*xyz @
149
that is soooooo funny! Lieberwurst is toast. burnt toast….
Twisted Martini @ 153
Nay. Rather “Ney, Ney, please stay until they have to drag you away!” Preferably dragged out by the Dem leadership. WhereTF are they on Ney today? Anyway….
*ilson46201 @
154
you receiiiiiivd the holy spirit!!!!! Prrrrraaayz Goduh!
Wow. Those delegates are slow.
OT: Hey, fahrender, concerning our discussion of the Pope’s speech a few threads back, apparently yesterday he did issue the kind of apology I thought he should have done in the first place. (Basically, “the medieval text I was quoting does not reflect my own views.”) So that’s good news, and I stand somewhat corrected about the intent of his speech.
*ilson46201 @ 154
Why do you think I’m giggling? Memories…;~}
that new Lamont ad gave me an idea for a new Joe-mockery URL — by 4:30pm EDT, try http://www.TurncoatJoe.com !!!
ruffian @ 155
Heh. Let him drag it out as long as he wants. As with DeLay, we all know how it’s going to end, so the only further harm is to the GOP.
new thread.
Another winning Lamont ad – and it just so perfectly reflects Joe’s selfishness…I’d wear my sweater inside out in solidarity, but here in Maryland, people would just think I was having a “problem…”
The IAM, though small now in CT, is one AFLCIO union that endorsed Lamont early and often!
Ewwww, Bloomberg is associating with Al D’amato? I just lost a truckload of respect for Mike. I hope he’s not serious about an independant run for president with friends like Senator Pothole.
Ed*ard Teller @ 132
Takes three weeks to get one steenkin’ flowah outta modgitmo and two seconds to crack a Diebold.
Sumpin wrong widdis pichure.
[Mod. note: Lotus, we’d all appreciate it if you’d cut us some slack about the mod thing. It’s gettin’ old]
Lotus @ 171:
That’s just soooo wrong. You’d think they’d understand security better than that. (I am, incidentally, going to send a clip of that to whoever I can reach in CA state government, just so the understand how unsecure the machines are.)