More growing pains in the blogosphere. The movement matures, people find their niches as space expands, some people grow envious, hasty words and hilarity ensue, even though more room means there’s more room for everyone.
Over at the Roots Project beta site, to which I won’t link because it’s not (yet) ready for prime time, we’ve taken some time to try to define our values as progressives, what animates us, and what the binding values of the site community itself are and will be. In one section, I sketch out three "Roots Community Values" of "collaboration," action" and "personal growth." Here’s what I wrote in the brief "personal growth" segment (emphasis added):
Personal Growth: In our working lives, some of us are lucky enough to make a living in an arena that continually challenges us to stretch our talents while serving some cause or mission greater than ourselves. Many, perhaps most of us, do not. The working world for many leaves us uninspired and underutilized. Here in this community, we recognize that all people have talent. All people have something they can do better than most other people can (the very definition of a talent). As a result, we come together in part to create networks of people who can work together while discovering and encouraging each others’ talents, perhaps in ways they’ve never experienced before. We encourage each other. We strive to remain positive in our approach and our dealings with each other. While many of us come here because we seek to make a difference in changing the direction of our country based on our values, many of us stay because we have together created a community that, as it turns out, promotes not only our development as engaged, informed citizens, but also our development as fully realized people.
Those are among the binding principles for the community that will blossom as the Roots Project.
I have news for people: none of us are able to perform in a way you readers, lurkers and critics will define as perfect at all times. Get over it. Build on your own talents, recognize the talents of others and encourage them. Bloggers, even organizers, are in their way creative artists. We have bigger fish to fry than each other. It’s those with more ambition than the talent they wish they had that spend the most time trying to tear others down. That’s the root of envy.
As for the composition of the Clinton meeting, that’s something Bill has to answer for, it seems to me, or Peter Daou, who made the invitation recommendations. I’m with Christy from this morning: let’s get some answers and do some reporting before we fling accusations, particularly at people who had nothing to do with the guest list. Peter’s a big Lebanese-American boy and he can speak for himself.
Speaking of talent, Jeff Buckley was a singular artistic talent, too soon gone. Do you think people, after he died, thought about ways they should have criticized him or tried to knock him down, because doing so made them feel bigger, more important or more self-righteous?
Let’s stay in focus, people. Leonard Cohen wrote a brilliant song; Jeff Buckley’s studio recording is my favorite interpretation of it. Please enjoy Buckley’s live rendition. Meanwhile, we have other progressive values and the common good to pursue together. Some people have to interface with and fight with the establishment directly, others do their thing from a greater distance. Some work on a national stage, others work powerfully locally. Some focus on niches of single issues, others on news analysis, others on movement building and others on lots of other stuff. All these roles, and many others, are necessary.
Everyone has potential talent. Understand yours and those of the people around you, and if I may recommend it, focus on what you can do, rather than on what those who genuinely, persistently fight for the common good could have done differently in your estimation. For myself, I hereby acknowledge my imperfection: past, present and future. It won’t come as news to me when you point this out to me, but the manner in which you do it will say at least as much about you as it does about me. Accountability is good for everyone: let’s just get the facts first.
Speaking of artists: who’s your favorite artist, too soon gone? Whose unfulfilled promise do you miss the most? Let’s take it up in the comments. Some with full careers can even qualify. Marvin Gaye comes to my mind, and Sam Cooke. Who comes to mind for you?



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Pach! Rootz!
One of your best posts, if not the best.
Jimi Hendrix!
If we are to view politicians as artists, which I believe some of the good ones are, I would have to mention Sen. Paul Wellstone.
Janis Joplin
Steve Goodman, folk singer extraordinaire!
Brilliant, Pach. As usual.
Stevie Ray Vaughn, RIP.
Bill Hicks, the funniest man ever.
Richard Farina …. damn
#4, #6, #7 – No fair tossing out names without youtubes.
Pach,
I’m interested in your mention of how we define ourselves as progressives. I know progressivism when I see it, but I’m stumped for an answer when my mother or my next door neighbor asks what it means. It’s not so easy to articulate.
Along the same lines, we should challenge conservatives to write a definition for themselves. My guess is that they would be mighty reluctant, because deep in their cold little hearts they know that whatever it is that GW Bush subscribes to, it sure as hell isn’t conservatism.
As for unfulfilled potential, the jazz trumpeter Clifford Brown would rank up there at the top of my list. Died in a car accident in 1956 at age 25, and is still regarded as one of the greatest.
http://www.cliffordbrown.net/
op99 @ 12
Sorry, but Steve died back in the early 80’s . . . long before youtube.
He wrote and sang “City of New Orleans” – the best damn train song ever! (And written while travelling on Ed Muskie’s whistle-stop campaign train)
just a quick ot question-
are there any tennessee fdl’ers? i’ll be moving back to the states in october (nashville) and am hoping to get involved somehow. more than financially, that is.
thanks…
Are we all sick of my favorite Robert Browning poem yet? Too bad, it’s ON TOPIC!
That low man seeks a little thing to do,
Sees it and does it;
This high man, with a great thing to pursue,
Dies ere he knows it.
That low man goes on adding one to one,—
His hundred’s soon hit;
This high man, aiming at a million,
Misses an unit.
That has the world here—should he need the next,
Let the world mind him!
This throws himself on God, and unperplexed
Seeking shall find him.
A Grammarian’s Funeral.
op99 @ 12
#4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NKB5hLD_vI
William Kapell — great pianist
global yokel @ 13
Clifford Brown is a good one.
I have more about progressive values, a bit of a series, and it will be public for review when the Roots Project goes public.
I don’t pretend mine is the last word. I put it together to encapsulate a lot of what I’d read across many places and through many writers over time. It’s a start, a draft, but those who have read it have liked it, or at least, critics have remained pretty silent.
I love artists who make big mistakes in the pursuit of something larger.
Neil Young
John McLaughlin
Carlos Santana
and the Grateful Dead come to mind.
They fly so much higher because they are willing to fall.
I admire politics in this vein as well.
I also love glorious frauds like John Cage.
But I do not think there are any glorious frauds in politics, just crooks.
Thanks Neuro. Very patriotic.
leonard cohen
“i have seen the future baby and it’s murder”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOuPUfbfFmk
and democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_i4gAvcqA
peace and love to all at fdl
Oh
Eric Dolphy never dissapointed
I think being a progressive implies forward movement, i.e. moving in a positive direction, i.e. trying to make things better. That does not preclude preserving the good things from the past (the Bill of Rights, for example) but it does imply facing the challenges of the future.
The problem comes when you try to define the terms “forward,” “positive,” “better,” and “good.” I know what they mean to me, but many would disagree.
neurophius @ 4
Best ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivBuCbHCkaw
Nite all
Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7yBDpBG9pQ
Stevie Ray Vaughn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EREyLrw_TFI
Warren Zevon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSJuH7Y6-U
a taste of Farina … with Mimi who is gone now too ….
Farina died the day of the party celebrating the publication of his first novel – Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to Me – and he wrote astonishing songs like Children of Darkness and HouseUnamericanBlues as well as this classic.
Mexican Irish wizard of words …
oops forgot the link …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yado-3WQP4A
odd to see Seeger look so young too
Elliot Smith, gone far too soon….
Titian
;>)
Transcendent. thanks for that clip. I’ve only heard his studio stuff. Amazing. Just amazing. I wonder if all his stuff is better raw.
Pach, I’m so glad you included the tune with your post. I heard a snippet of this on radio not long ago but didn’t catch the name of the artist. Mostly I’ve heard kd lang’s version – which can make the hair stand up on the back of your neck, but is far, far too beautiful. Jeff Buckley sure understood the broken part of “broken halleluia”.
Bill Evans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erhE0Bk_jB8
OT, but after all this is Late Nite (even without the dinosaur).
I watched part of Larry King Live with Jimmy Carter and the author whose new book talks about Jimmy’s peacemaking in North Korea. Did anyone catch the name of the author?
Yeah, Buckley’s version had the most desperate, aching beauty, one of those singular fusions of material and artist that, to me at least, is unforgettable and unparalleled. Rufus Wainright recorded it, too, used in Shrek.
Here is a link to Elliot Smith on you tube…I think this will work..
oops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlCTvGXAcU
John Lennon broke alot of ground for me. If you have time check out the art of Irving Norman. ‘The unrestrained passion and monumental energy of this work blow most contempory political art out of the water,’ as quoted in Art in America, July 2003. I’m partial as I consider his widow a friend and do have my favorites. Have a peak at IrvingNorman.Com
Eva Cassidy! God could that girl sing! Died of cancer in 1996. Sorry, I cry every time I play one of her CD’s.
Beauty and talent. Like all the ladies at FDL.
darkblack @ 30
I’ll call your Titian and raise you one Caravaggio.
Pachacutec @ 35
Thank you, Pach! I’ve been racking my brain trying to remember who’s version was used in Shrek.
hmmm. favorite artist. that’s a tough one — there are so many to choose from.
well it isn’t ronald reagan.
gustav klimt and bob ross!
and ansel adams!
sorry that’s way too many, i just couldn’t help myself.
hey firedogs, i found a different version of cohen’s “the future” without all the torture images. i love cohen because he is a poet first and a musician second and he has never been afraid to speak the unvarnished truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_drEFOaPaK8&NR
Dru,
I saw Stevie Ray Vaughn (and Double Trouble) at the Will Rogers Coliseum, February 5, 1986 in Fort Worth, Texas. Seating capacity, about 2,000. The concert was sold out, my then girlfriend and I went to the box office anyway the night of the concert. SURPRISE! Unused “Guest passes” (family) were returned to the ticket counter and on sale. Third row, I bought them, wowser!
Hey Clinton met with some of the best, with the exception of Kos and Huffington would the blogosphere complain if Clinton met with African American rappers to get out the Black vote? You guys worry too much face it republicans will always complain and they will always find an Uncle Tom/Colin Powel to act as a concern troll or (the new latest thing I’ve seen) a lack of diversity/dissent troll who acts so surprised when they insult us and instead of taking their so called ideas seriously we all defend ourselves. I think trolls adopted this tactic after they found themselves getting banned and their (often racist )posts erased. Rove is just trying to throw us off our game however by pissing us off he unites us. I wonder what the next Rove troll tactic will be?
Artemisia Gentileschi
http://www.wga.hu/art/g/gentil…..dith_m.jpg
Frida Kahlo
http://www.malaspina.org/gif/kahlo.jpg
op99 @ 40
Di Wendy Peel
;>)
Dru @ 46
I had not heard of Frida Kahlo, but she/he painted a picture of my cat! Amazing.
WordPress does this annoying thing when I click on a link in a comment. When I try to return to the comment, it takes me to a point farther up in the thread, and I have to scroll down to where I was. Anyone know a way to make it return you to where you were when you clicked?
sorry for coming back so often but i just gotta plug neil young for his great song “let’s impeach the president” it’s about chimpy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfZM3Zc05UA
cameronga @ 50
Fortunately, however, Neil Young is still with us.
Back in the 1980’s, a singer who I started admire and enjoy was Kate Wolf. She was a singer-song writer who died much to young at about age 50. I checked uTube but nothing with her is there. She passed in 1985 I believe. There are sites about her if ou look and Rounder Records has re-released all of her music.
cameronga @
43
I have clear memories of being bored and stumbling into a small record store in a north Chicago suburb in 1992 and picking that record up. Changed everything…
darkblack @ 47
Looks like you’re one thread too late, DB, shoulda been on the boobie thread.
van Gogh
http://images.google.com/imgre…..f&sa=G
Cozumel #44-
Nice! I saw him around that time too; in Richmond. Maybe the same tour? I saved up my pennies for a good while and ponied up for 2 tickets; took my sister so I didn’t have to go alone. She FELL ASLEEP! I give her a load of grief about that annually, at least.
Neuro … have you ever been to the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam? one of my favorite places ever ….
Siun @
27
I remember reading that book like it was last week. Some very vivid writing. I had no idea…
Siun @ 57
Siun I have not been but would love to. I have seen van Goghs in New York, D.C. and Paris, however.
When I lived in NY in the early 90’s, I used to listen to Vin Scelsa’s radio show Idiot’s Delight on Sunday nights. He played Cohen’s The Future and I was hooked. Bought it the next day probably. I bought so many records in those days – well, CD’s. I was in grad school and Sundays were a time to unwind with his free form, awesome radio show. Great artist interviews, too. Musicians, filmmakers.
neurophius 48;
cute kitty!
The ‘Boobie thread’, op99?
Well, clutch my pearls
…Nothing like some good old fashioned Matisse and Degas
;>)
neurophius @ 55
Oohhh, we must all go to Amsterdam immediately; the vibrancy of his colors must be experienced in person. A photograph doesn’t begin to do him justice.
I would also like to mention some other names in this thread that I heartily second: Eva Cassidy, Steve Goodman, Jimi.
Siun @ 57
It’s unbelievable – and they have snagged all his best work.
neurophius @ 49
When you refresh using F5, you return to the place you left. When you refresh with the refresh button, you return to the spot which you lastly refreshed with F5 or the end of the thread you clicked when you entered the thread the first time.
And the guy who wrote “Confederacy of Dunces”. Sorry can’t remember his name. Somebody help me.
darkblack @ 62
darkblack, I am shocked. The salaciousness of those liberal blogger interns and their deliberate posturing. I hope Mr. Bill wasn’t anywhere around…
hufNpuf @ 67
John Kennedy Toole
p-rex @
42
Not too often you see Bob Ross and Gustav Klimt in the the same sentence!
hufNpuf @ 67
John Kennedy Toole (hear, hear!)
John Kennedy Toole
neurophius @ 48
May I suggest seeing the movie “Freida,” it’s fabulous. It’s on dvd IMDB info.
Actors, too. River Phoenix comes to mind.
John Kennedy Toole was nobody’s tool.
op99 @ 63
Maybe next year’s YKos should be held in Amsterdam.
Yves Klein had his own trademarked color: International Klein Blue (IKB).
http://collections.sfmoma.org/OBJ30803.htm
Jane Hamsher @ 69
Dru @ 71
Spent 3 months in New Orleans many years ago. (lived on Bourbon St.)Thought of him every time I passed a hot dog cart.
neurophius @
5
a second from me if you make it a motion
TeddySanFran @ 77
haha, when you click the link it says “bad request” a first for me, i’
ve never had a bad request before, other than when i made the mistake of going to pamela’s little hellhole!!!
since jane is here i’d like to nominate her. a great woman and a modern hero, as well as a great artist in her own right. love you jane.
Read several things today that truly concern me tonight. Here in Minnesota Hatch is running for Gov. against Tim Pawlenty. The recent poll by StarTribune showed each with 42% of the vote. Negative ads are running against Mike Hatch, the dem and current Attorney General.
And then I learn from a local story about the Princeton study of voting rigging on Diebold and learned that there are 4 counties in Minnesota which have these Diebold machines. Oh, can you guess which ones? Yup, Ramsey, Washington, Anoka, and one other I missed. Mostly those are first Twin Cities ring counties with mostly dem voters. My county, the reddest in the state, had paper ballots read by a scanner.
And on a personal note, my family is now in total crisis mode as my older boy, the one who lost his wife in a car crash and his boy was in the car and suffered serious head injuries (now healed thank God), is being hospitalized for depression. He has been acting out with anger and frustration and can no longer stay alone. Several threats of injury to himself have caused everyone to hasten decisions. Send your best thoughts our way as we struggle with finding a new path forward.
My daughters 3 older girls are now in therapy – again. They have lost 3 people close to them in the last 12 months. And the thought of their uncle being in trouble is really upsetting. Especially the 10 year old who just had her good friend and neighbor killed in a motorcycle crash driven by her Uncle, lost her Great-Grandma who she loved, and her Aunt, my son’s wife. Also she is the same age as Cody who was injured. Life’s fragilness is becoming all to real to her 10-yr old mind.
And sleeping is useless.
neurophius @ 68
Indeed, the bold posturing of these brazen cyberhussies in their quest to catch the malevolently cycloptic eye of the Clenis reminds this old explorer of the perverse yet moving fertility rites performed on the banks of the Ouagodoogoowhatzit, their perky pylons pushed prominently forward as they capered insouciantly in the altogether.
;>)
OK, I’m going out on a limb here to lament the premature passing of singer Karen Carpenter.
Yes, she of “The Carpenters.” Since I’ve already established my coolness credentials by nominating Clifford Brown earlier in this thread, maybe I can get some slack on this one. Check out her voice sometime on those sappy popular tunes she did back in the 70’s. Unbelievable quality, and the most perfect intonation of any singer I’ve ever heard.
It’s a shame that she never did a recording of jazz standards. She started out as a drummer, but most of her career she was known as one half of a singing duo with her brother Richard. The music they produced was about as real as styrofoam. But that girl could sing, and it’s a shame we that we never had a chance to hear her in a better context.
Dru @ 46
Did you see the Gentileschi exhibition (father and daughter) at the Metropolitan Museum of Art a couple or three years ago? I loved it. She had quite a fascination with Judith beheading Holofernes, I like that about her, lol.
Fern @ 70
yes like i said, i couldn’t help myself. plus i think the comedic artform owes bob ross a debt of gratitude…one has to wonder in how many ways has the bob ross format been spoofed?
the man was certainly one-of-a-kind.
Great post Pach. Thanks.
Billie Holiday left us way to soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npCe9-uv1-Y
Niki de St. Phalle -sculptor
Pete Seeger, Ronnie Gilbert (the Weavers), Joan Baez, Bernice Johnson Reagon (and Sweet Honey in the Rock)
seconds to Eva Cassidy!!! add to the chorus of “great post, Pach.”
W.H. Auden
Jeanette Winterson
Pema Chodron
Okay I will stop.
I wish I knew how to do those YouTube links! Sorry I don’t. But thank you so much all who do and have.
Op99 and Neuro …. I had a chance to go to the Van Gogh museum when they had a brilliant show tracing the connections between Van Gogh and Gaugin …. simply astonishing in so many ways … but even better, I turned a corner and found myself face-to-face with one of my father’s favorite paintings that I had forgotten in the year’s since Dad’s death … wonderful sorta non VG boats on beach … just stunned me into tears and wonder all at once.
It’s a magic place and so nicely done as a museum, understated, well designed spaces
Was expecting to be in Ams early Oct but my company has put a ban on all international travel for a while due to terrorism threats – can you imagine! I had a conference in AMS and a speaking thing in Paris and they are worrying about faux terrorists! pffft
Mark Rothko- brilliant beyond measure. But geez, I really don’t think his works are on YouTube.
Mark Twain
Have you read The War Prayer? It was too hot for publication in his day. It was not published until 13 years after is death. Maybe if Gearge Bush had read and understood it…
op99 @ 85
I missed the Gentileschi exhibition, but I caught the movie! WRT that head coming off; her pain definitely informed her work.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123385/
Charlie Parker, since no one has mentioned him yet.
Margot – how wonderful to find one other person who has read Farina!
There’s a not quite reliable account in the recent book Positively Fourth St about Dylan and Farina and Mima and Joan and all …
and one of Joan Baez’s books has a wonderful tribute to Farina … tales of him making enormous pots of pasta for everyone and all … just lovely memories
I still treasure his and Mimi’s early music and was very said to hear she passed away recently from breast cancer I think … she did a lot of organizing and good works in recent years.
I never got to see them live thought I did see her perform the year after Richard die, Mimi so alone standing on the Newport Folk Festival stage saying “this is a farina song” and then knocking the place down with such music!
Christy this am, Jane in the afternoon and Pacacutec with this. Really fantastic work today!
I can’t thank you all enough.
TSF -
Spent 3 months in New Orleans many years ago. (lived on Bourbon St.)Thought of him every time I passed a hot dog cart.
Lucky Dogs
I’d like to add Paul Desmond, the alto sax player with The Dave Brubeck Quartet. He could have lived another 10 decades and his improvisations would still be fresh. His aspiration was to play in such a way that he sounded like a ‘dry martini.’ I think he succeeded.
GrandmaJ, I’m so sorry your family is still struggling. But events like that don’t settle easily. They ripple for a long time, like a boulder thrown in a pond.
It’s good your grandson is healing well.
I’m sending strong, peaceful thoughts and {{{hugs}}} your way.
and Mama Cass, Phil Ochs, Buddy Holly,Otis Redding, Jerry Garcia…
Amen, brother!
Jimi Hendrix
Anne Frank
Hank Williams
Steve Biko
Sylvia Plath
John F. Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
John F. Kennedy, Jr.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dylan Thomas
Malcolm X
The OtherWA – thank you. Appreciate the hugs. A Mother’s lot is to sit and worry. Others are tending to him and the details so there is nothing left to do — but worry.
Maria Callas.
Dru @26, I liked the Zevon … saw him at Rockefeller’s in Houston in 1983, that was a terrific show.
Pachacutec @ 35
Rufus, son of Loudon Wainwright III (”Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road”) and subject of the song “Rufus is a Tit Man” written and performed by dad Loudon when Rufus was of nursing age, so we can tie this back to the “boobie thread”.
Second Yearly Kos in Amsterdam. And if we don’t take back both houses in November I just might stay. Nite all.
caldonia @ 99
Quite a list. One I would think belongs there is Archbishop Oscar Romero.
Goodnight, folks. If you invite me to anything tonight, I’m unavailable.
See y’all in the morning.
Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash and the Carter family, esp. Mama Maybelle.
Keats and Shelley. Nick Drake, Sandy Denny.
Bill Hicks. Bill Hicks. And thrice Bill Hicks.
Herbert Khaury played a great ukulele. One night, in 1984 I think, and in a small pub on the upper east side, he walked in the door and played a couple of songs. It was great!
Raul Julia.
Siun -
Did you know that Mimi’s sister, Joan Baez, wrote “Sweet Sir Galahad” for Mimi and the man she married after Richard? I think she sang it at their wedding… it’s a beauty.
And cameronga, really loved “The Future” link you posted. And boy are Julie Christianson and Perla Batalla, decked out! If you see the new Cohen documentary, “I’m Your Man” you’ll see them as two earth mothers, a way different look. Man, can Perla belt out a song. When she sang Anthem I nearly burst into tears.
Pach, I love that video of Buckley so much. I really bow before its beauty. There are a couple of youtubes up of his dad, Tim, too. Gorgeous man, looks just like his son. I think he comitted suicide just a few days after Jeff was born. Tragic.
This is a melancholic thread (in a good way…)
hufNpuf 78
That must have been fun, but sleepless!
GrandmaJ
Thoughts to you and yours,
Thanks for the thread Pach; this was great,
Good night all…
AZ Matt @ 91
Thanks for the recommendation. A bunch on amazon dirt cheap. I ordered one for .50 cents!
GrandmaJ- and my own huge hugs to you, and to all of yours. You and your family have had more than your share of tragedy. I am however so happy to hear that Cody has recovered, or is continuing to recover from the physical injuries from the car crash. It must be so hard for you to witness these events unfold, to be feeling unable to influence things for the better- it is hard to be feeling powerless- or at least that is what I would feel. But please take care of yourself. You are well entitled to your share of worry, but don’t let that get in the way of taking care of your valuable and true self. xxooo
G’night, all, thanks for sharing your artists.
I adore Elizabeth Fraser of the Cocteau Twins.
=Seekers Who are Lovers(Live)
GrandmaJ – I’m so sorry for all the heartache. I’m sending you some healing light and will add you to my prayer list.
Time is the only thing that helps at all, if you can just get through these tough times.
((((((((((((GrandmaJ))))))))))))
NefLes- Raul Julia! Oh, yes. BTW, are you an actor? Might take one to bring Raul Julia into the mix.
We’ve lost so many good musicians.
Here is one of the handsomest men ever! And yes I would’ve.
Marvin Gaye – What’s Going On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YRunCqCERs
And the purest alto I’ve ever heard.
Carpenters – We’ve only just begun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPg5_ECsus
NefLes- never mind, you don’t have to answer that question. But, Raul Julia was a great actor, gone too soon.
Francois Villon
Check out: Alexi Murdoch
Marvin Gaye – What’s Going On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YRunCqCERs
wow i forgot about that song, truly one of the great classics we should never forget.
and loudon wainright was right about the dead skunks (was he thinking about holy joe) but he was wrong about rufus who gave up on the “tit man” thing early on and is proudly gay.
Even better Cocteau Twins.
good night all from a rather noisy spot in Louisville Ky – who knew it was the Harley capital of the world – sheesh!
and lovely topic Pach as always!
Huge news out of Minny!
http://www.startribune.com/587/story/681977.html
Yeah, so what if we elected Jesse Ventura?
Hatch is the guy for us, and he’ll bootstrap along his BFF/Attorney General as a bonus.
Minnesota has the potential to be a Blue (not a speck of Purple) state. Any chance you could shell out a Jackson for Patty Wetterling? You would be spending wisely…
http://www.actblue.com/page/patty06
Most of the artists I really admire are musicians, particularly singers with distinctive and inventive voices. Ray Charles, Aretha, Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding, Tori Amos, Cocteau Twins, that little guy from Keane, Delays, Karen O from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
I love my impressionists, too, and impressionist composers. Also, Antonin Dvorak never disappoints.
And then there’s authors. I could go on about this all night.
I love the Buckley rendition – first time I’ve heard it. Thanks!
GrandmaJ – WOW – huge hugs to you! So sorry that you are going through so much right now. My heart goes out to all who have lost their loved one – especially the kids.
Nan
Sorry. You wanna get my attention with music, show us some Delbert McClinton, some Paul Thorn, some Chuck Berry. Something with a groove, something a guitar player can dig into. With some Honky-Tonk piano too. Gotta have my Johnnie Johnson or Kevin McKendree.
This guitar playiing bastard plays roots music, the ethereal is for others. Strap on my Tele, fire up my Bassman and rip into a fast shuffle. For me, that’s what music, and life, is about.
Check this out
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6dcj8JkKu7k
Who do I miss the most?
Waylon Fucking Jennings. The baddest cowboy singer who ever lived.
hey Trex, if you like the yeah yeah yeahs, you’ll probably like tegan and sara, who are twins and immensly popular up here in canada. a lot of people think they are a major influence for the yeah yeah yeahs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
Valley Girl @ 117
Hey VG, sorry for the delayed response, was off in another tube … yes, I have a degree in theater. Did my first “real” show (formally staged production w/theater, audience, etc.) at age 10. So I’m always biased toward films w/good acting … In the Bedroom, for instance, was my personal pic for Best Picture the year it was out. Great ensemble work.
YGM, btw.
Can I just add:
Brook Benton
Dinah Washington
Sorry, Waylon youtube listed below.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oV8A7vJIzjI
I say again, the baddest motherfuckin cowboy singer who ever lived. He beat nashville’s machine at it’s own game .
Waylon was amazing because he MADE the mainstream come to him. Name me a modern artist outside Chuck Berry who did that!
Just got back home and read the post. I have been a major Jeff Becley fan since his first album. “Hallelujah” is one of my favs. Also really like “Morning Theft” from a later album. I know what I’ll be listening to for the rest of the evening…
Really great to read you tonight, Pach. Thanks.
Judy Garland. Watching a great Judy movie makes me feel close to my mother.
Katrin Cartlidge. Never could keep my eyes off her onscreen.
neurophius @
5
Peterr @
14
Not to mention ‘A Dying Cubs Fan’s Last Request’
The greatest musical artist of the 20th century, John Winston Lennon (video). Hounded by Nixon, got his band’s records burned by fundies, wrote “Give Peace a Chance”, even better, wrote “I Want You/She’s So Heavy” “Strawberry Fields Forever” “Nowhere Man” “A Day in the Life” “In My Life” “Girl”. Oh, and I almost forgot the incomparable but often overlooked “Hey, Bulldog”.
What more do we ask for in an artist, Obscurity?
bobo
AirportCat @ 102
Boy, do I miss Warren. For a number of years, we got to see him about every six months at the Bayou in DC. Those were great times, hearing him just messing around on the piano or playing with a band. I always wished he’d do an album without a band; I actually liked those shows the best.
On his last tour here, he was touring with the wonderful Jill Sobule (another one of my favorites, fortunately still with us.) She later talked about how great he was to tour with as an opening act (unlike some others.) We could tell at the time; he came out to join in on her “I Kissed A Girl” as a duet, and she named him an honorary lesbian. *g*
Redshift @
137
Zevon was a genius. Zevon should have been a gazillionaire. Zevon should still be with us.
Rest well, brother Warren. I still weep for you.
So, I have to admit, I was first introduced to this hallelujah watching Shrek with my kid, performed by Rufus Wainwright
Buckley has much more soul. Thanks Pach.
I_M_bobo @
136
I beg to differ. without the following name, John Winston Lennon would have never been what he was.
Chuck Berry.
‘Nuff said.
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 132
How different music might be if Waylon had gotten on that plane instead of Buddy Holly
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 140
Chuck Berry is still very much alive though. And about to have a significant birthday, if I’m not mistaken. For this thread, you hafta be dead.
Besides, Chuck Berry was the last thing on Lennon’s mind for 90% of what he wrote. You’d have to include 17th century troubadours and the Brothers Grimm. Not to mention pop pharmacology.
bobo
GrandmaJ, you and yours are in my thoughts as you struggle through this time. Do take care of yourself.
I_M_bobo @ 142
WELL SAID
Jeff H @
141
Indeed. As much as I love Buddy Holly’s music, Waylon had a bigger impact on me. Though he lived to 66, for me, Waylon was gone WAY too son. So was Zevon., Two originals, the likes of which we’ll never see or hear again.
I_M_bobo @
142
But without Chuck Berry to inspire him as a youngun, none of that other stuff would have happened, so I stand with my original statement. Furthermore, in terms of impact on the world of music, Chuck Berry dwarfs anyone who came after him.
Anyone. Chuck is the father of Rock and Roll (with a HUGE nod to Jimmy Reed)
neurophius @
34
In case you check back. A Moment of Crisis: Jimmy Carter, the Power of a Peacemaker, and North Korea’s Nuclear Ambitions By Marion V. Creekmore
I didn’t know how serious a crisis that was or how significant Carters role in securing an agreement. Sounds like a very good book.
John Denver.
I don’t know folks. Waylon Jennings? Sorry Dude, I tried to watch. And I understand the attraction to John Lennon, he was my favorite Beatle. But the best musical artist (impact, form, social importance) is/was Bob Dylan.
Here is Dylan in London, 1965
Keep in mind, while he was a kid then, Lennon was singing I wanna hold your hand.
GrandmaJ — You and yours are in my thoughts. I’ll hope for good results from the therapy for all concerned. These things take time, unfortunately.
Already been mentioned a coupla times but no YouTube so…
Buddy Holly
I remember delivering the newspaper with the headline about the plane crash
“Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day,” – Thomas Jefferson
kemo @ 139
Rufus does a nice job on that song too. Just… different. The version available for download from iTunes (I never saw Shrek so not sure if it’s the same) is quite stunning.
Eureka Springs, AR
Thanks for the info.
It’s gotten pretty quiet here, but I am still checking back. Catching up on some other blogs between times.
By way of a heads up, every Sunday LA’s KPFK (90.7 FM and streaming
from kpfk.org) has two live one-hour progressive talk shows hosted by
Ian Masters and featuring outstanding guests.
11:00-12:00 PDT: “Background Briefing,” this week featuring:
Walter Pincus: when did BushCo know Saddam not
involved in 9/11
Glenn Greenwald: BushCo’s attempt to gut FISA and War
Crimes Act
Max Blumenthal: the path to “The Path to 9/11″
12:00-1:00 PDT: “Live from the Left Coast,” this week featuring:
Robert Dreyfuss, the author of Devil’s Game: How the United
States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam. Dreyfuss is a
writer who specializes in politics and national security
issues. He covers national security for Rolling Stone, and is
a contributing editor at The Nation, a contributing writer at
Mother Jones, a senior correspondent for The American
Prospect. He has a new article at Rolling Stone, entitled “The
Phony War,” in which makes the case that Bush’s war on
terror is a fraud, intended for domestic politics. His website is
http://www.robertdreyfuss.com.
These programs are rebroadcast later in the week on KUCR. In my
experience, they are always informative and often entertaining.
kemo @
149
If you don’t get it, it’s your loss. Waylon was the first guy since Hank to make Country cool again.
Waylon was a giant, a monster. God, I miss him.
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 155
But Steve Earle is still around.
Jenny from the Blog @ 152
Wainwright’s version is brilliant. The Shrek soundtrack is quite good. Something my four year old daughter and I agree on, although she doesn’t quite get the Holly You song just yet.
Dead artists? I give you Miguel de Unamuno, poet, philosopher, teacher.
One of his better known poems:
The really scary part is that the poem is on topic.
But, I also get to make another point:
**
Which is what really happens when you speak out against the actions of a gov’t that actually is fascist.
_________________________________
The block quotes above are from a blog on Salon. The notes below are from the EPU.
* Although the irony would certainly be lost on the general, Unamuno wrote in “The Tragic Sense of Life,” his most important philosophical work: “Knowledge for knowledge’s sake is useless.” Which is perhaps my favorite bit of philosophical thought/theory of all time. And which is also true, as reflected in the poem above: you really do need to put your knowledge to some useful purpose to make any sense of life.
** No one actually believes that Unamuno suffered a “heart attack.” Rather, it is strongly, strongly, strongly believed that he was killed by Franco’s henchmen.
See you all at some point in the future.
Harry Partch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJmluVNxsRI
My polical nomination Paul Wellstone. Simply the best . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
Lowell George. Gone but not forgotten.
Guitar Playing Bastard @
146
And Little Richard, and the Mills Brothers. And Les Paul.
Actually, as a young ‘un, I think Lennon’s inspirations were more the Troubadours and Brothers Grimm. Berry’s influence on Lennon appeared in a more self-conscious phase as the Beatles were self-destructing. They weren’t covering Berry songs in Hamburg.
Not trying to knock Chuck Berry – I LOVES CHUCK BERRY – just to praise John Lennon. He deserves it. 12/8/80 is still the most wrenching night of my life (and I was cognizant on 11/22/63). Though I can think of a December night 20 years later that comes close…
bobo
then again, there’s John Cage’s 4′33″ –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E
I play this every semester to my Music Appreciation classes.
Israel Kamakawawi’ole – a beautiful voice and gentle soul.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I…..’ole
I love his version of “Somewhere over the Rainbow”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2Jt4WOxN8
motherlowman @ 156
Steve Earle I love, and I promise to keep trying. I am a alt-country fan. Wilco, Ryan Adams, Whiskeytown, Uncle Tupelo, so you know I am not hopeless!
Okay, okay, one last Elizabeth Fraser. Here she is singing Jeff Buckley’s father’s song, Song to the Siren.
Scoop @
161
Amen. I’ll add brother Duane Allman. Duane was very, very special. Richard Manuel and Rick Danko, too.
ok, speaking of country, another one who died too soon, gram parsons of the flying burrito brothers. here he is with emmylou harris who is still very much alive and still one of the most beautiful women in the world. this is love hurts which was their song not nazareth’s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ATrQNFGfI
and this is him with the burrito brothers doing sin city.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT91Ry5PJKk
motherlowman @
156
Waylon was very proud of Steve Earle, because Earle, another Texan, was doing his music HIS WAY.
Just like Waylon taught him to do.
neurophius – Glad I still had the show on my tivo. Your query and OK Kiddo’s heroic reminder led me to (finally) viewing the show.
mini rant…
I don’t care if intrest rates and oil prices shot through the roof while he was Pres. It was probably some big oil neocon cabal against such acts of common sense. He restored integrity in a post Nixonian era. He met challanges face to face. He kept the public informed honestly and gave us a plan. Most importantly he was a President of Peace! History will honor such heroics as many of us do now. Another what if occurred to me. I think Gorbachev and Carter would have reached the same conclusions on the cold war had the timing presented itself that way. We all were lucky, especially Reagan.
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 167
Duane, absolutely my favorite guitarist alltime, so you see we are not really that far apart…
cameronga @ 168
I love Gram Parsons AND Emmylou Harris. Thanks for reminding me.
Thank you, peaceful warrior, for this thread. Jeff Buckley’s studio version is, indeed, out of this world. I like it even better than Cohen’s.I spent some part of last Monday listening to it, esp the hallelujah part, and crying.
I didn’t even know it until you made me think about it, but I miss Jimmie Spheeris very much. I first heard him in 1971, my freshman year in college, and I wore the grooves off of Isle of View. His spirit helped teach mine how to fly back then and he got better every year until that bastard drunk driver nailed him in ‘84.
My dad, in his cups, would put on his bagpipe record and make everyone stop whatever they were doing to listen to “this one perfect note” in Amazing Grace. For my athiest-leaning agnostic father, music was as close as he dared come to god but I suspect it fulfilled the same purpose for him.
Everyone I know is on edge lately, quick to take offense and to give it. I don’t know about you, but these days most times I feel like taking a swing at someone, I almost don’t care who. It helps to take a moment now and then to do whatever renews your soul. Music – all kinds, it just has to be good – and large bodies of water do that for me.
Namaste, Pach. ‘Night, all.
Eureka Springs, AR,
I wasn’t a big Carter fan when he was president, but my respect has grown over the years to where he’s my favorite president ever. You’re right that Carter might have gotten the same or a better result from Gorbachev as did Reagan. When Carter was president, Hedrick Smith wrote a book, The Russians, which predicted fairly accurately what happened to the USSR during Reagan and George I’s administrations.
And here’s to Lowell George, the fat man in the bathtub. With the blues.
Nina Simone.
Wilfred Owen.
I_M_bobo @ 162
The Beatles were named in tribute to the Crickets, Buddy Holly’s group. Arthur Alexander was also an early influence John imitated in his songwriting.
Mis – thanks for posting this. Izzy was quite the artist.
Mommybrain @ 173
Amen.
morning lineup on the talkshows:
* MTP: VA-SEN debate with Sen. George Allen (R) and ex-Navy Sec. Jim Webb (D)
* Face the Nation: NSA Stephen Hadley; Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Arlen Specter (R-PA), and Carl Levin (D-MI).
* This Week: Hadley; Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); Singer/songwriter Jewel about breast cancer awareness; roundtable with George Will, Cokie Roberts and Sam Donaldson
* Fox News Sunday: House Maj. Leader John Boehner; Hadley.
* Late Edition: Hadley; George Soros; Sens. Evan Bayh (D-IN) and John Cornyn (R-TX); Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni; Iraqi national security advisor Dr. Mowaffak al-Rubaie; Lt. Gen. Ali Mohammad Jan Aurakzai (Gov. of Pakistan’s Waziristan province)
Mommybrain @
173
Man, I know what you mean. I restrain myself because I’m a big guy and I could HURT someone if I took that swing. that and I’m old and it’d take months for my hand to heal. And I coudn’t afford the judgement the jury would award.
I’ve been on edge ever since Bush 43 was re-elected. There are days when the only emotions I seem to feel is anger, hatred, frustration.
Then I pop on some Delbert McClinton, some Chuck Berry, some Paul Thorn, or I plug my Telecaster into my little home-brewed Fender Champ clone (the Bassman is FAR too loud to play at home) and knock out a couple songs I wrote (one of which is titled “Sean Hannity Must Die”), and my hands on the guitar heal my aching heart. At least for the moment.
When my band finishes it’s record (we start recording next week) I’ll post a link to a free download of “Sean Hannity Must Die.”
I suspect it’ll surprise y’all.
But for those of you who don’t like country music, it has fiddle on it.
I saw The Band, well, Rick and Levon a few years back on a Mississippi river boat during the King Bisquit Blues Festival. What a show!
Emmylou, Willie, Kottke, Cale were regulars in this neck of the woods since their beginning.
Willie, Doc Watson and Bela Fleck play Eureka every year, to name a few for a town of two thousand we have a lot of fun.
Parsons is a must on the past away list.
Still living and I think overlooked. David Bromberg !
Dr John was here last night. I sold him a Tux many years ago for a week of performances at San Francisco’s Fairmont Hotel. He gave me two tickets for each night.
EPU #158 Unamuno I remember reading 40 years ago.Today I ran across his’Three Exemplary Novels’ while sorting through 50 boxes of paperbacks that have needed attention. I’ll read myself well to sleep soon. One more thought on something I’d read last week in one of Eliot Pattison’s Tibetan/China mysteries. The Lamas couldn’t get over the fact that we in the west worry so much about getting ‘old and comfortable’. I am not at ease with this notion either. he work is never done. The artist Irving Norman, mentioned in post #38, painted his reflections on his experience with the Lincoln Brigade during the Spanish struggle with facist Franco.
mls @ 164
“IIIZZZZZZZZZ”
GPB – My guy, too, is a big man and plays guitar to stay loose. I can tell his moods from how and what he plays. He’s a Les Paul fan, Led Zepplin (rolls her eyes)too, loves blues. He’s been taking lesson from a guy named Billy Burke, expanding his repetoire and mood.
We don’t live in a sane world. Except, there’s music.
N Leslie, Listening to a little Nina Simone thanks to Howie right now. Actually I own over twenty albums of hers, but a cd sure is easy.
My favorite albums of hers first one on Bethlaham records and whatever album has -Black is the color of my true loves face- she really owns that song.
GPB,
Hang in there, man. I feel that frustrated too. More often than I’m comfortable with. We’ve got to give a return to Democracy at least a couple more trys, though.
John Hartford. He was so much fun in person. At bluegrass festivals, he was one of the few performers to come out to the parking lots at night to jam with old friends and maybe make new ones. That’s where he best pickin’ was to be had, on the tailgates in the lot at night. Man, those were some high ole times.
The Holy Modal Rounders. Whole albums that could have been the soundtrack for “Oh Brother Where Art Thou”.
Johnny Ace. Fats Waller.
In the Mr. Ol 60 Grit thread Saturday morning – it is still Saturday where I live – I pointed out that some blogs were right on top of the CPA incompetence from the beginning. Back in the summer of 2003, I was bookmarking articles about how the occupation was being totally mishandled. Hundreds. I’ve lost them, but angie gave a link to an article from early 2004 about Monsanto’s scam to end 11,000 years of Iraqi agricultural tradition. Reading the article jogged my brain.
Here’s an article from the summer of 2003 by a Lebanese scholar, Rania Mansri, which really merits close attention. Back in 2003, this was the article about the occupation which shook me up the most:
http://electroniciraq.net/news/981.shtml
Can’t let the night slip by with out mentioning Seattle’s own Jim Page. Oy, how can I forget that sweet album with Ella and Satchmo and oh ya that, ah nevermind, goodnite good people!
Mmmm Betty Carter.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=betty carter&search=Search
Ed*ard Teller @ 189
Thanks for the link. I agree that when you find out WHO was in the CPA then what has happened there is much less surprising. You’re right that the story really didn’t get much traction although maybe there will be more now (and a congressional investigation in the Spring).
And, don’t forget Bernie Kerik!
It’s the sense of entitlement and the inability (for many) to actually see reality as it is, not what they wish it to be. (allusion to Rummy-speak intended)
Also — another vote for Karen Carpenter who is on my iPod (but I am careful not to sing along out loud at the gym)
Mommybrain – What is your favorite Modal album?
ET – That article….thanks
liberalization?
The corporate press and the corporate government talk of the liberation of Iraq. Many of us recognize that this liberation is false; it never was intended and it is not in the plans. Here are just a few examples
I have been thinking this for years of course but in particular all day. What if Bushco is not failing (in their view). We almost never hear about the oil and money from what is produced and who really controls all of it.
So many questions and even more frustration.
Time for some shut eye. Save your seeds.
Noone mentioned Coltrane or Marley that I saw. Both had incredible careers and still left us far too soon!
James Booker (heir apparent to Professor Longhair). I’ve got tickets for Mac Rebennack next Sun. – just what the Dr. ordered!
Go Blue!
Anyone see this yet? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14868609/
Eureka Springs, AR @ 193
Thanks. Yeah – “SAVE YOUR SEEDS, PEOPLE!” These pricks wanted to just walk in there and destroy 11,000 friggin’ years of seed saving and seed savers. The people W sent to Baghdad were the pod people sent to destroy the seed people?
Three more sunny days and I’ll double the number of cilantro seeds growing in my greenhouse.
rat bastahd @ 194
That’s a major part of the GOP gameplan. They need to steal about 5 or 6 million votes. No one method can deliver enough, but the more confusion and controversy they can muster up, the better their chances of pulling off a scam that large. Confusion and delay are all the Republicans can handle at this point, and this will be their greatest test.
“neurophius says:
I think being a progressive implies forward movement,”
I agree, and I find it disturbing that so many here are stuck in a 60s music mindset. As Billy Childish said, “Hendrix was not the only music.”
And since I’m obviously in a curmudgeonly state of mind, let me just answer Pachacutec’s comment about Sam Cooke.
Sam Cooke was an amazing singer who threw away his talent to record love songs for Middle America. If you wish to enjoy his rich talents, look for his recordings with The Soul Stirrers – before he went secular. His recordings afterwards were nice enough, but comparatively weak.
And since I rarely post, but have decided to mouth my opinions here tonight, let me just say that the goings on at MyDD in the comments of their coverage of the Clinton/Blogger nonsense are…troubling. A lot of silly crap being pushed there by a few loud talkers, and some clearly anti-FDL sentiment. I don’t like it.
My MyDD post, because I’m being dramatic and it’s very late (and I’ve had a few beers – OK, I admit it).
—–
I am Ashamed to be Associated with Some of You (none / 0)
I simply cannot believe the ridiculous statements being made here masquerading as somehow “relevant” and “sane.”
As someone who is 99% lurker on DailyKos, MyDD, FDL, Eschaton, BooMan Tribune, Hullaballo and Crooks and Liars, I do not know any of the featured posters as anything but a pseudonym. Until a few days ago I didn’t know if the people I read were green, black, red, blue or otherwise. In many cases I didn’t know if they were male or female.
Suddenly, the folks who I’ve read and agreed with (and often disagreed with) are under attack because they lack the proper pigmentation in proper quantities.
This is insanity. First of all, how can one even know if this event’s organizers knew the makeup of who he was inviting? And even if they did, how does one know that everyone invited showed up? Furthermore, how presumptive does one have to be to ASSUME they know the heritage of someone in this photo? Is the skin of the half-hispanics not dark enough? Shame on you!
I have an idea. Let’s bring back the circular firing squad! Let’s destroy those who care about and fight for our our common cause. I say let vanity and jealousy reign! These obviously white and obviously privileged people are clearly at fault here.
But those who would say so are clearly mistaken. If one were to look at me, at this moment, one would see a middle-aged, white man with a corporate job. In other words – the enemy. However, that would not tell the tale of my Native American blood, nor of my family’s struggle through poverty. I may appear – like those in this photo – to be white and privileged, but are any of you truly so omniscient as to know me? Absolutely not. And I say the same for everyone pictured.
The opportunism and self-promotion advanced by way of the “white bloggers only invited to Clinton meeting” scandal is shameful and transparent. And those pursuing this line will be remembered.
Much like the United States itself, our Progressive cause can never be destroyed from without – only from within. I urge the self-promoters and “concerned” observers to consider this, as the rest of us march past you.
—
P.S. After lurking for many, many months now, I’ve decided I really like the folks here at FDL . No, I really do. :)
Scoop @
161
Lowell George
How about John Coltrane.
Here he is with Duke Ellington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pK27lsDtQ
Ok, this is probably off topic, but I just got home from work and have it on c span and the house hearings about the illegal wire tapes and I find my self agreeing with BRUCE FEIN!!!!!!!
When did he join the forces of truth and light in the fight against the dark horde?
or am I just stressed and tired
Good Morning All. It’s in the mid-50’s and a little foggy by the shore, but if yesterday’s fabulous day can be repeated today, well, bliss! Best wishes for a peaceful day for ALL, and blessings for what you need ‘em.
SMOOCHIES to ya, OS!
And a very Good Morning to all you dears (Billy K, we gotcher hot coffee right here when you’re ready for it — Alka Seltzer’s over there on the counter, cold water in the fridge. Want some juice too? How ’bout some eggs and hashbrowns)!
I’m so happy to be outta mod-jail and back with you real-time, I don’t know what to do! The ol’ eye-petals nilly popped outta the ol’ head-petal mid-morning yesterday when I said something and, instead of “lotus says: Your comment is awaiting moderation,” here came just “lotus says:” on a fuchsia header. Jamie, when you (?) mashed whatever button that was, dis-here flowah’s whole pond commenced dancing for joy!
Had a wonderful time at Frederika’s last night, and was glad for her that the place was packed, even if it slowed our service a little. Pork souvlaki, rosemary/garlic baked grouper, moussaka, dolmades, spanokopita — many a NUMMY ’round our table. If you’re ever in Holly Hill . . .
Did meta come back with tales of her lunch at Chez Panisse? Please point me at ‘em, somebody.
Well, global yokel and Kak, that’s three of us for Karen Carpenter now — and I’m probably not the only one for ‘Mama’ Cass Elliott, either, eh? Love me some alto! I don’t know who she was, but the one who sang at the Queen Mum’s funeral (or was it the public part of Charles and Camilla’s wedding day? one or t’other) made the hair on my arms stand up. (Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, though not an alto, always does too.)
op99, big ol’ amen to Callas’ Vissi d’arte, and thanks for that link!
Mommybrain, the Joan Baez book you mentioned — was it Daybreak, I think? Got that around here somewhere . . .
In the OT category, if you didn’t get back to the Big Doin’s thread’s EPUville, you will have missed:
Hypatia @ 136
lotus @ 138
Hypatia @ 139
I encourage you to sit through the short ad to see this interview of the now-teeners. Horrifying to see how close they are now to enlistment age and maybe becoming IED-fodder, thanks to the putz whose face they watched turn red back when they were 10.
((((((GRANDMAJ & FAMILY))))))
Okay, hushin’ now. Breathe, flowah.
You know, I’m missing all of those folks above.
And,
Alvin Ailey
Betty Carter (featured here with Lionel Hampton in her more conventional youth)
Charlie Christian (a biographical short)
Jacqueline DuPre (where are her videos, y’all?)
Charles Mingus (here with Don Pullen p, George Adams ts, the late, great Danny Richmond d, and Hamiet Bluiett bs. NB:This is avant-garde music. Still, even if not your thing, yuo might find it interesting to see what can be done with instruments.)
Don Pullen (featured here with the late, great George Adams and outstanding others in “Song from the Old Country” — more accessible, played for a Japanese outdoor summer festival audience.)
Astor Piazzolla (Here with his Quintet performing an elegy for his father)
Billy Strayhorn
Duke Ellington
Ray Baretto
…
and
…
all still creatively vital and with recent output at incapacity or death.
I guess I’m just greedy.
Btw, here’s a clip from Saura’s movie Tango, in which Julio Boca and Carlos Rivarola provide a whole universe of things that Tucker was not suggesting, doing, or feeling during his turn on the dancefloor last week, to a piece by Piazzolla.
Mornin OS, Lotus! foggy here in PA but it’s supposed to be a nice day when it burns off.
meow
Hey, twolfie! That one down in front is about how I feel this morning, after partying last night. What’s on your agenda for today?
hi Lotus. well, first I am going to try to wake up :) Then will wait to hear from my girlfriend who is currently en route to Beijing. What I’d like to do and what I should do today are two different things. I should get some work done but I’d rather go for a bike ride then go watch a little football at a friend’s house. decisions. How ’bout you?
Okay, Siun at 28 with the Farinas makes me weep, love seeing the art work up here, Marvin has me laughing and dancing and weeping, what an amazing world we live in.
This fabulous post from Pach, and then all these wonderful reminders of folks gone ahead of us into the great mystery, shining on their own small parts of it whether with voice, words or color.
Morning to y’all, my friends Lotus and Twolf. Nice to see us all here together in real time, eh?
8 Important Lessons Learned from ’80s Cartoons
CARTOON: G.I. Joe
LESSON: Knowing is half the battle.
Ed*ard Teller @ 163
Thanks for the link.
Cage whas a rather transcendent fellow.
Oh, and sorry ’bout my earlier links to the living. It being late nite , my sleepy eyes missed the ‘too soon gone’.
Eric Dolphy qualifies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuiIyDxa750
He was a master of all woodwinds, but this bass clarinet piece has the best w0w factor.
Mornin’ OS. are the leaves changing up there yet? I hope your fog burns off soon!
Wow, twolfie, is she heading to Beijing for biz or tourism? Either way, fascinating tales sure to emerge.
Nice to see us all here together in real time, eh?
Very nice, indeed, OS. LAT’s lede story, though, not so much …
Sidebar:
“Speaking of artists: who’s your favorite artist, too soon gone?”
Pachacutec [not the blogger. The Inca…]
And Oh, that early Dylan……..
Mack, didn’t get a chance to greet you yesterday. Nice to see you here in the early morning–
Good morning FDL. I survived the writers’ group last night, with all the accompanying dishes (2 pots, and one set of bowls to wash, after an hour and a half of clean up.)
Ah, Mama Cass, what she could have done had she lived longer.
One that I miss, and he’s obscure, is Klaus Nomi. What an amazing voice..a bit eccentric, but lovely to listen to. I’d also add Ofra Haza into that mix.
hmm…Mamas and the Papas, Klaus Nomi and Ofra Haza together….I think my brain’d explode.
Twolf–just in the past couple of days did I notice autumn knockin’ with her colors in hand. Spots of red here and there–usually swamp maples–and the green which has held out for SO long this year, starting to give way to yellow. A lovely contrast to the amazingly blue skies of the past couple of days. Of course this far north/east, the angle of the sun is pronounced. Aaaah, if only autumn were’nt followed by quite so much winter.
For the first time, I have so many nearly ripe grapes on the vine–wonder if the birds will get them all before they sweeten up!!
pach,
i haven’t read the whole thread. i just stopped after i screened leonard cohen’s “i’ve seen the future, and it’s murder”. something george w. bush should be chained to a chair and have to watch three or four times. that would be all i ask, whether or not it “did any good”. if that video were to be “embedded” in his brain, that would be enough.
enough of my anger. what i really hurried here to the end of the cue to say is that you are wonderfully in tune with the zeitgeist tonight, both for our community and the world at large, both in the music you chose to begin your post as well as the thoughts you chose to express. thank you, we at FDL needed that.
as i only read the first thirty or so comments i just want to give a big ay..men! to choir members global yokel and cameronga. clifford brown is at the top. the most lyrical musician imaginable. he was the charlie parker of the trumpet. the equal of miles. and leonard cohen continues to show what a brilliant poet he is! leonard cohen and neil young, two canadians, are the conscience of america. true friends of our country and what it should be standing for.
Lotus – she is going’ there for biz but I am way jealous there wasn’t enough in the budget for me to go along too. She will be doing some tourism too.
Mornin OS and all
twolf1, interesting point about kids entertainment…wonder if that’s ever beeen studied… hmmm
Oh folks, check out Scalzi’s to do list And click on the link in number 9.
put down your beverages before you do that though.
I’m reading on into that LAT lede story now. You could call it cockamamie, but that’s too light-hearted a word. Just look at this shit!
emphases mine, disaster ours
Today’s talk shows, courtesy of the Washington Post
Oh, and Negroponte is up first on Fox, I wonder if they’ll ask about the contractors……nah, probably not.
beardy, once again, thanks so much for “patching me through” yesterday morning — whatta pal! (And aren’t you glad we didn’t think of that days ago!)
Hi morning folks!
Great post and thread. Wish I could have been there “in person.”
One of the things I love about Jane, Redd, and Pach is that they have their eyes on the prize. They do know what is important down to the core and will always bring us back to center.
Sending {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}} and prayers to grandmaJ. You are enduring enough heartache that it must feel like the weight of the world. My heart goes out to you. May your heart be lifted by our collective spirit.
And no one mentioned Bobby Darin who died way too young. Ditto on Coltrane, Parker, Goodwin and lots of the others.
And yes, Paul Wellstone. I cried when I heard.
Jeez, I’m still in shock to hit Submit and see it go right to the screen. Humbling, this technology.
RevDeb, I’m expecting to be in Cambridge in early December and am hoping to meet up with some of the pups then…and having now read that far, I join the rest of the community in sending waves of good vibes to GrandmaJ and her family. SIGH
Oh, right about Bobby Darin, RevDeb (and your others, too, of course).
Maya Deren is a new name to me, Florida Mom, but what an interesting link. Thanks (looking forward to the mail too).
The infinity of human creativity, yes? How good we have this place to celebrate and explore it as a break from focusing on barbaric misrule.
Don’t much like that last sentence of mine, now that I see it, but won’t belabor it further.
More tea . . .
Hmmm. Y’all may want to read, over Florida Mom’s and my shoulders here, this one from the St. Pete Times:
Old Sow @ 227
I think we can find a way to get together. send me an e-mail at my name at mac dot com and we can hash out details as the time approaches.
Lizzy MErcier Descloux faded to relative obscurity in the 90’s.
Yahoo and altavista returned nothing for her, so i tossed up a web site
http://www.geocities.com/dmack…..cloux.html
Over the next 10 years I heard from dozens of folks around the world, mostly
“Where is she?”
In 1998, her cousin Seb, emailed to ask if I had heard from her. It was some 6 months later that I received an email and some scattered demos of material she had worked on over the previous 10 years.
We were in touch a few more times before she was diagnosed with cancer.
Of all the losses, this was the most personal, because Lizzy had been writing again and planned to record again. Sadly she never regained the strength and passed in the spring of 2004. The “Lost Album” which is to be released this fall by Ze holds versions of all the tracks from the tape as well a a few more.
Lizzy was always a bit ahead of the trends, recording at Compas Point before the Talking Heads, and in South Africa a year before Paul Simon (coincidence, not likely)
Her most popular album was One For the Sould which featured Chet Baker in one of his last performances. Brilliant.
No YouTube unfortunately. She flew too far below the radar.
beard5 @
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For those of you who don’t receive Doonesbury, here’s his take on a hearing/interview given by Rumsfeld:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmp…..db20060917
Ashcroft defends Patriot Act Former attorney general questions critics’ sincerity
-thinkprogress
Hello all!!
Semi-cloudy here, but supposed to get nice…. Work and then to a wake this afternoon. This most amazing woman, Catherine, a colleague of mine, died last Thursday. She had been teaching law for 45 years! She was the only woman in her 1957 law school class and, not surprisingly, she was the valedictorian. Only 5′2, but scary as all get out to her first year students — until they realized what a caring softee there was underneath the Kingsly (Paper Chase) imitation. Yeah, she taught contracts as well.
Just thought I’d share that bit and we should remember how mch women were just absolutely excluded. I am sure Ann Althouse has experienced some discrimination, and she certainly has heard stories like Catherine’s. She needs to ponder both how lucky she is to be a law professor today AND how fucked up her catty physical yuckity-yuck post is to women everywhere who have not fallen into such a cushy position.
Mornin’ scarecrow
Down on the Cape and back at work. The group is definately going to have to come down here.
Mack at 232 — welcome again! I read a bunch on your blog and you are doing some righteous stuff — particularly the anti-Klan stuff which is near and dear to my heart….
Bu, who is “Rick?”
Good morning, all. Another vote for John Hartford, and I haven’t seen Laura Nyro’s name yet so I’ll add her. Prayers and hugs to Grandma. Have a great day, all.
Florida Mom — I was a Cinema Major (double with creative writing in College). Our University was all-avant garde all the time (Ken Jacobs was one of the teachers). Maya Deren was one of the people who changed the way I looked at the world. Her and DZiga Vertov…
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/…..ertov.html
My list is a bit wierd,but then again,so am I,lol.
Tecumseh.Yes Tecumseh. He worked so hard to save his people and unite them in defense of their sacred land. He was eloquent and smart. The events of his day took place in the area I was born,I learned about him in school as a child. What I learned about him after I got out of school endeared me to him even more.
John Waterhouse. I love his paintings. The Magic Circle is my favorite painting of all time. My husband bought me a huge reproduction of it on canvas a few years ago,it’s displayed proudly in my living room so I can admire it every day.
My Grandma,Edith. She taught me how to cook,garden,preserve food,and showed me what it takes to be a good Mom. I miss her,but I’m kind of glad she’s not around to see what’s happened to our nation. (I think she would have drove to DC herself to slap some Republicans around,lol) She unofficially adopted and raised several kids who came from abusive families along with raising 7 kids of her own. She was generous,kind,fierce and brilliant. She’s the only person in my life who ever loved me without condition,in fact I think when I screwed up she loved me all the more.
I have a big spot in my heart for Crosby,Stills,Nash and Young. As a teen I think I played those records til they about wore out.
Derrick Jensen is my favorite writer,but his subject matter is tough to get thru. He writes about the end of western civilization and why that’s a good thing,which obviously, is quite controversial. His writing makes me think, inspires me to act,and never give up.
I also admire and have loads of respect for Frances Moore Lappe’ and her work. The folks at the Small Planet Institute are some of the nicest people in the world.
Edward Abbey. Desert Solitaire is one of my favorite books,driving home the point that America is very short sighted in how we use our landbase and how important it is we keep fighting those who do not care about such things.
Paul Wellstone. One really doesn’t have to say more than his name to understand why.
not me
though (of course) i am no fan of the klan
immanentize @ 236
Mornin’, everyone.
lotus, I wish we had that kind of political coverage down here in south Florida, although the Miami Herald is showing signs of improvement. There’s a new blog by the paper’s political reporters called “Naked Politics: the raw truth about power and ambition in south Florida.” So far, it’s been pretty bland, with the newest posting on it talking about Ken Mehlman’s endorsement of our perennial favorite Katie Harris. I’ll let you all know if/when something interesting comes out on it.
off to the bakery for Sunday morning paczki
(a chicago perk)
OK Mack — this happens here at the lake sometimes. Another fellow, “Mack” introduced himself for the first time yesterday morning — he is in Tennesee, and identfied himself as “a minority blogger.” We all said “hello” and this morning, we thought you were he….
Here is his blog, Coyote Chronicles.
http://www.coyotechronicles.blogspot.com/
I recommend it!!
Wow, catching up with the two prior threads. I’d say if I may, we’ve got enough going to get some real momentum here in our struggle. So many people HAVE “had enough”. (Will attend the local “Iraq for Sale” showing in Blue Hill on Oct 9) The “news” is a treacherous business to surf, how much out there that is horrendous and depressing, and yet, through the small windows of our screens, we have access to so much hope and energy and support. Where would we be without the Toobz?
And on a sadder note, we had an egregious hate-inspired violent incident in our small town of 2000 last week. The woman (African-American and 7 months pregnant) who was assaulted was not medically injured. Today there will be a gathering of support for the family on our town green. The outrage has been enormous, and I expect there will be many good folk out to say “not in our neighborhood!” The work will not end in our lifetimes.
Hi, FGDave! It’s taken me so long to read that whole piece and get it around to some folks I was yarnin’ it to last night, that I’m just now back here. Thanks for the tip on “Naked Politics” (which of course reminds me of Naked Came the Manatee, a tale that Dave Barry, Edna Buchanan, Carl Hiaasen, and a whole buncha good-writin’ daffies churned out serially, one chapter apiece, back in my law school days. Had everybody salivating for the Sunday Herald for weeks on end, they did!)
imm, I’m sorry that you’ve lost such a wonderful colleague, but I envy you — and her students — her company for so long.
George Allen and Jim Webb – Virginia Senate race – debate for the whole hour on Meet The Press.
Whoa — not a story we’d expect from your neighbohood, OS! Good for the good people, and I hope this woman and her family will be deeply re-heartened by your support. Please let us know if they catch the perp(s). Damn.
Good morning
Couldn’t find a reference to the Doors with a ctrl f search. Lots of people still seek out his grave in the Pere Lachaise.
People are Strange
In case the embed doesn’t work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrllrB142lM
Yep, lotus, Carl’s works are a local treasure, although you never will understand them for all they’re worth if you don’t/haven’t actually live(d) in south Florida. The stories — which I imagine you can relate to! — of the tourists are always classic, which is why his “Native Tongue” might be my favorite.
Okay, off to read the Herald Sunday paper before the Allen/Webb smackdown on “MTP” this morning. Catch you all later…
to Angry Old Broad — about Tecumseh: He lived around here in Indianapolis — they almost named this entire city for him later but all he has now is a short street on which I proudly live. In the early 70s, the East Germans made a film about Tecumseh in which William Henry Harrison (spit!) was the villain!
Lotus, it was witnessed by so many people–the guy turned himself in after it was reported on Maine’s NPR and other broadcast entities. Some folk tried to excuse it by saying the guy was drunk, but hate does not come from the bottle……..
Hope he goes away for a long time, OS. He may not, but he needs to.
off to the great out of doors–another spectacular day here. Sending good vibes to all. See ya at the Book Salon, inshallah.
Enjoy ’til then, OS!
And for the rest of us: http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..thread-23/
immanentize,
I am losing my identity…
Mr. Mack’s blog is powerful indeed
Quick drive by to say hoory for Lotus being sprung. So nice to have you back for real. I’ve just quickly glanced at some of the posts, and – wow. Lots of great memories, especially from the good prostratedragon, who reminds us of Mingus, Ailey, Carter, Saura, and Piazolla all in one post. Sigh.
I’m off to my last day at my job. Fear, anxiety, and excitement flood my little self. Scared and happy, an odd marriage.
Lotus, your dinner sounds absoltely heavenly. So glad you enjoyed it thoroughly. No surprise there. Chez Panisse was over-the-top fabulous. Saw some sweet warm familiar faces, got comped an incredible bowl of peaches and Bronx grapes – enough deliciousness to make one cry – 2 desserts of fresh plum galette, bronx and muscadine grape sorbet, ossi de morti, had no idea fresh bean salad could dance so gleefully in my mouth, amazing baby lettuces….now I’m babbling. I was in bliss. Bliss.
See you soon, dear pups.
Eureka Springs, AR @
181
You’ll notice I repeat the wording “too soon gone” twice in my post. That’s the name of the song surviving members of the Band wrote about Richard Manuel. It’s very moving.
EPU — (ironically enough, in the EPU zone…)
Thank you so much for your comment on Unamuno; you read it at a fellow Salon Bloggers site, that of the gifted artist and connaisseur Michael Parker. I recognized the post almost as soon as I read the first sentence, and it reminded me I am long overdue to catch up with my Salon Blogs brethren.
I don’t know where I heard it (unattributed), but I give this advice to young people who don’t know what to do with their life, goes something like this:
Don’t ask yourself what the world needs, ask yourself what makes you come alive and go and do that, because what the world really needs is more people in it who have come alive.
GONE TOO SOON
first I bow, always, to Sam Cook.
JIM CROCE
famous for the “Stag O’ Lee”, “Leroy Brown”
his first hit the day I first heard it (I remember where I was), left me dumbfounded that this theme could be done again, not only better, but as one of the most touching songs of all time “Operator”.
hisfirst album is the “only” and everyone should hear “One Last Set of Footsteps”.
ummm…one point. ‘all people have talent’? ‘all people have something they can do better than most people’? wow. I’m a liberal to the core, but this is really Pollyanna stuff. I’ve know lots of people with no talent. perfectly nice people, good to know and as warm and/or caring as the next good person. a little reality would no doubt be better for the cause than kindergarten niceties. just a thought.
Florida Mom and Imm EPU’d but maybe you’ll check back.
Maya Deren’s film Meditations on Violence – it took us months to find it online a few years ago. Chao Li Chi, who danced in the film, is our Tai Chi teacher (for the last 20 years) and also married us in a Taoist companionating ceremony.
A woman who was doing a film about maya deren found Chao Li and came to the Pacific Asia Museum where he teaches on Saturday mornings and filmed some of us (not me). I’ve lost track of her project. Deren was way ahead of her time. It seems to me that avante garde has become derriere garde. Who is avant garde today?
Steve Goodman! A Dying Cubs Fan’s Last Request will never die, however!
*ilson,Allen Eckert wrote a novel(based on lots of historical research)about Tecumseh called A Sorrow in Our Heart:The Life of Tecumseh,that is very good.I usually don’t go in for historical fiction,but I liked this book.It’s out in paperback now,real cheap.