Oklahoma kiddo @ 76

Democrats are ‘tuffer’ then Republicans. And smarter. By a long shot.

If we’re so smart, how’d we get into this mess?

The answer to your question, I believe is very involved. The query is an extremely good one! But… I would have to think (in short) we Democrats became too enamored of winning. Rather than standing on principles. Principles such as a “fair deal” for everyone here at home. And applying the “Golden Rule” to those abroad. We have many Democratic politicians whom I do not feel represent these, admittedly high ideals. My Grandma used to tell me, kiddo: “anything worth having, is worth fighting for”. And this woman was the finest Democrat and progressive I have ever met. We need Democrats who are willing to fight for what they believe in. And we have some. But not enough. Yet. I realize that this is perhaps not a very satisfactory answer. I could write pages in response to your very, very, what I feel is perhaps a most, and maybe THE most essential question for us Democrats to answer.

NRA-Backed Candidate Lacks Hunt License
By NANCY ZUCKERBROD (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
September 15, 2006 4:27 PM EDT
WASHINGTON – Republican Bob Corker, a self-described hunter, has the backing of the National Rifle Association yet the Tennessee Senate candidate won’t be firing a gun anytime soon.

His license expired.

Corker had a license with the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency last year but it expired in February, according to the state agency. The GOP candidate is in a competitive race against Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr., for the soon-to-be-vacant seat held by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist.

The NRA endorsed Corker Tuesday, giving him an “A” rating and describing him as “a longtime hunter and sportsman.” The former Chattanooga mayor told the Chattanooga Times Free Press that he typically goes bird hunting several times a year.

The dove season is under way in Tennessee, and politicians typically use the start of the season to show off their hunting skills.

Corker campaign manager Ben Mitchell said Friday the candidate has been too busy campaigning to go hunting. “He certainly will be out hunting again in the future and will have the appropriate license when that happens,” Mitchell said.

Chris Cox, chief lobbyist and chairman of the NRA political action committee, said the status of Corker’s license doesn’t bother him. “I know Bob Corker. He is a longtime hunter and sportsman,” Cox said.

Democrats are ‘tuffer’ then Republicans. And smarter. By a long shot.

If we’re so smart, how’d we get into this mess?

if bush is god’s choice, then god is an asshole.

is that controversial?

it’s not God’s fault. Bush came out of the primordial ooze. God made the universe and put into place the laws of nature. Bush is a product of nature. He evolved into his own psychopathology.

actually, this is a point i like to make to christians i know, having studied theology and biblical history in college — when i read the old testament i come away with the impression that god is an absolute, intolerant jerk. there is way too much in the o.t. that just doesn’t square with the teachings of jesus in the n.t.

and it stands to reason. jesus is misinterpreted in history as having created a new religion. in fact, jesus was a jew, and his aim was to reform judaism, not create christianity, which he never mentions or even goes so far to envision. he wasn’t asking his followers to be christians — he was asking them to be better jews.

but this is wading into religion perhaps further than we should at this time?

(sorry if that’s the consensus anyway!)

The Nefarious Leslie @
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p-rex @ 59

if bush is god’s choice, then god is an asshole.

is that controversial?

Well, your logic is inescapable, but it’s only controversial to the Bush True Believers, who I doubt spend much time here.

(If I were trying to explain Bush in theological terms to a fundamentalist, btw, I would say that he’s a sign of God’s judgment, displeasure, and wrath against the church.)

If their God is the God and Heaven is full of their kind, think I’ll take my chances going to the other place. :)

Reminds me of the joke, told about a variety of religions/denominations, where St. Peter is leading a newcomer through the various “neighborhoods” of Heaven, one for each religion/sect. When he gets to a certain area, he tells the newcomer to be very quiet. In response to the inevitable “Why?”, he says, “Oh, that’s where the [fill in the blank] are. They think they’re the only ones up here.”

Point being, I rather doubt Heaven, if it exists, will be quite what anyone expects, perhaps least of all the fundamentalists.

More like Bugs and Yosemite meets The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, with scoring by Stravinsky and choreography by Merce Cunningham, meta.

;>)

Ohhhh, I love that idea.

the framers of the Constitution knew that evidence gathered under duress wasn’t worth a shit.

every authority since ancient Babyon knows this.

;>)