Comments on: On Further Reflection… http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:13:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: We believe in … « MissM’s Blog http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-295420 We believe in … « MissM’s Blog Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:32:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-295420 <p>[…] A comment from Firedoglake, that is brilliant! Like Christy says, […]</p> […] A comment from Firedoglake, that is brilliant! Like Christy says, […]

]]> By: Sally http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294337 Sally Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:06:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294337 <p>Mad George wants torture for its own sake since torture does not get credible information from the tortured. Maybe he gets his kicks out of watching videos of prisoners being horribly abused. Sicko.</p> Mad George wants torture for its own sake since torture does not get credible information from the tortured. Maybe he gets his kicks out of watching videos of prisoners being horribly abused. Sicko.

]]> By: peony http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294113 peony Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:01:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294113 <p>Andrew J @25: Thank you for your comments. I hope you post again in the future.</p> Andrew J @25: Thank you for your comments. I hope you post again in the future.

]]> By: Creeping Truth http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294026 Creeping Truth Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:51:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294026 <p>On that subject, this from Tony Snow/Helen Thomas at the 9/13 WH briefing:</p> <blockquote><p>MR. SNOW: … Helen. </p> <p>Q Can you give me the administration’s reason why 72 hours and 60 days isn’t enough, and you don’t want to get a warrant to wiretap? </p> <p>MR. SNOW: I’m not sure if I understand exactly — </p> <p>Q You oppose getting any warrant for a wiretap. </p> <p>MR. SNOW: No, we’ve been working — what we’re trying to do is we are working with Congress to find ways to reform FISA so that you’re able not only to have a court proceeding that allows you to gain court warrants when necessary, to do so in a quick and timely basis. </p> <p>Q But why — you think a warrant is not necessary? </p> <p>MR. SNOW: No, I’m just — look, call me later. I’ll talk to the lawyers, I’m getting over my head.</p></blockquote> On that subject, this from Tony Snow/Helen Thomas at the 9/13 WH briefing:

MR. SNOW: … Helen.

Q Can you give me the administration’s reason why 72 hours and 60 days isn’t enough, and you don’t want to get a warrant to wiretap?

MR. SNOW: I’m not sure if I understand exactly —

Q You oppose getting any warrant for a wiretap.

MR. SNOW: No, we’ve been working — what we’re trying to do is we are working with Congress to find ways to reform FISA so that you’re able not only to have a court proceeding that allows you to gain court warrants when necessary, to do so in a quick and timely basis.

Q But why — you think a warrant is not necessary?

MR. SNOW: No, I’m just — look, call me later. I’ll talk to the lawyers, I’m getting over my head.

]]> By: Creeping Truth http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294020 Creeping Truth Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:49:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-294020 <p><a href="#comment-293705"><em>meta @ 86 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Creeping Truth, it’s Specter-Feinstein, not Feingold.</p></blockquote> <p>you’re right, natch. I was on autotype.</p> meta @ 86

Creeping Truth, it’s Specter-Feinstein, not Feingold.

you’re right, natch. I was on autotype.

]]> By: Caoimhin Laochdha http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293999 Caoimhin Laochdha Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:38:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293999 <p>Andrew J @ 131:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="mailto:CL@39">CL@39</a><br /> thanks!<br /> I have to be devils advocate and ask, though :) What percent of the impression of the dissembling, vote swapping, politics as usual last-5-years impressions come from primary sources, and how much from secondaries? (Does that q make sense?)</p></blockquote> <p>I fully understand what you mean. I was refering only to cave-in votes that I personally witnessed or saw being swapped. If the action taken or explanation given (voting for Iraq war, against Alito filibuster etc.) did not come from directly from the distinguished gentle(wo)man’s mouth or spokesperson, I did not include their behavoir into my calculus.</p> <p>slainte,<br /> cl</p> Andrew J @ 131:

CL@39
thanks!
I have to be devils advocate and ask, though :) What percent of the impression of the dissembling, vote swapping, politics as usual last-5-years impressions come from primary sources, and how much from secondaries? (Does that q make sense?)

I fully understand what you mean. I was refering only to cave-in votes that I personally witnessed or saw being swapped. If the action taken or explanation given (voting for Iraq war, against Alito filibuster etc.) did not come from directly from the distinguished gentle(wo)man’s mouth or spokesperson, I did not include their behavoir into my calculus.

slainte,
cl

]]> By: HotFlash http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293980 HotFlash Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:24:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293980 <p><a href="#comment-293828"><em>HopeSpringsATurtle @<br /> 158 </em></a></p> <blockquote><blockquote>150 LindyH says: <p>September 14th, 2006 at 8:38 am * </p></blockquote> <p>And I’ve got a full set here in Canada. Off-site backup… ;)</p> <p>Thank you. Me too.</p></blockquote> HopeSpringsATurtle @
158

150 LindyH says:

September 14th, 2006 at 8:38 am *

And I’ve got a full set here in Canada. Off-site backup… ;)

Thank you. Me too.

]]> By: HopeSpringsATurtle http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293896 HopeSpringsATurtle Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:07:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293896 <p>Good Catch CT Bob! Can we see the video?</p> Good Catch CT Bob! Can we see the video?

]]> By: Connecticut Bob http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293846 Connecticut Bob Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:35:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293846 <p>Here in CT, Rep. Nancy Johnson (R-Bush Toady) released an absolutely horrendous commercial that completely plays on people’s ignorance about FISA. The outrage today is incredible.</p> <p>While we love our Ned, we also want some other Dems to get elected. </p> <p><a href="http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006/09/nancy-johnson-feeds-fear-machine.html">http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006.....chine.html</a></p> Here in CT, Rep. Nancy Johnson (R-Bush Toady) released an absolutely horrendous commercial that completely plays on people’s ignorance about FISA. The outrage today is incredible.

While we love our Ned, we also want some other Dems to get elected.

http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006…..chine.html

]]> By: Simp http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293838 Simp Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:29:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/on-further-reflection/#comment-293838 <p>I’ve freaking had it with the “sit on our hands” approach. Way to reinforce that “do nothing Dems” meme.</p> <p>Not only that, now when they stand up, it is going to shift to “do nothing, obsructionist Dems.” </p> <p>Jeebus H. fellas, get off your asses and start waving the constitution around every chance you get. Become a damned sandwich board with the constitution printed on it. Its on YOUR side. Use it!</p> <p>Sorry, I’m so disgusted this morning.</p> I’ve freaking had it with the “sit on our hands” approach. Way to reinforce that “do nothing Dems” meme.

Not only that, now when they stand up, it is going to shift to “do nothing, obsructionist Dems.”

Jeebus H. fellas, get off your asses and start waving the constitution around every chance you get. Become a damned sandwich board with the constitution printed on it. Its on YOUR side. Use it!

Sorry, I’m so disgusted this morning.

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