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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Die, Diebold, Die!!</title>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-296307</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aw c’mon, shouldn’t we just trust the Republicans?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, the producers of “The Path to 9/11″ swore to Harvey Keitel that they were making a historically accurate miniseries about the lead-up to the 9/11 attacks, and, and, well, okay, maybe we can’t trust the Republicans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, but, Diebold keeps promising that their voting machines are perfectly reliable and accurate. In fact, these machines are called “AccuVote” so they must be accurate and will give Americans a historically accurate count of our votes, and, and, well, okay, maybe we can’t trust the Republicans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact, true-blue United States citizens, those loyal to our democracy, can no more trust the Republicans than the American Revolutionaries could trust the Tories or anyone of the Red Coats from whose aristocratic, conservative hands we wrenched our freedom 230 years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To Arms!! To Arms!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Republicans are coming!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Republicans are coming!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw c’mon, shouldn’t we just trust the Republicans?</p>
<p>I mean, the producers of “The Path to 9/11″ swore to Harvey Keitel that they were making a historically accurate miniseries about the lead-up to the 9/11 attacks, and, and, well, okay, maybe we can’t trust the Republicans.</p>
<p>But, but, Diebold keeps promising that their voting machines are perfectly reliable and accurate. In fact, these machines are called “AccuVote” so they must be accurate and will give Americans a historically accurate count of our votes, and, and, well, okay, maybe we can’t trust the Republicans.</p>
<p>In fact, true-blue United States citizens, those loyal to our democracy, can no more trust the Republicans than the American Revolutionaries could trust the Tories or anyone of the Red Coats from whose aristocratic, conservative hands we wrenched our freedom 230 years ago.</p>
<p>To Arms!! To Arms!!</p>
<p>The Republicans are coming!!</p>
<p>The Republicans are coming!!</p>
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		<title>By: gc wall</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295792</link>
		<dc:creator>gc wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Badwater,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chaos hastens and increases the flow of dollars. War creates chaos on a grand scale, and offers the opportunity for larceny for those on the inside of the game. Outsiders often do not realize what hit them, until the opportunity has passed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Badwater,</p>
<p>Chaos hastens and increases the flow of dollars. War creates chaos on a grand scale, and offers the opportunity for larceny for those on the inside of the game. Outsiders often do not realize what hit them, until the opportunity has passed.</p>
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		<title>By: gc wall</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295786</link>
		<dc:creator>gc wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Badwater,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chaos hastens and increases the flow of dollars. War creates chaos on a grand scale, and offers the opportunity for larceny for those on the inside of the game. Outsides, often do not realize what hit them until the opportunity has passed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Badwater,</p>
<p>Chaos hastens and increases the flow of dollars. War creates chaos on a grand scale, and offers the opportunity for larceny for those on the inside of the game. Outsides, often do not realize what hit them until the opportunity has passed.</p>
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		<title>By: gc wall</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295729</link>
		<dc:creator>gc wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quite often liberals complain about the democratic representatives being spineless. This frame plays into the republican effort to make democratic representatives appear weak.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem is that Democratic Party members are locked into a chess game in which they draw the black pieces every time, since they are in the minority.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Passion is important because it is the energy behind change, but when it comes to implementing change, it is back to the chess board down a couple of pieces.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We just witnessed the power of propagandists in the media to sell their lies, with “The Path to 9/11.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No one was permitted to say that republican incompetence and arrogance allowed 9/11 to occur, yet media giants like Disney and ABC believe that they can get away with slandering the previous administration and paint liberal leaning professionals, in and outside of government as baffoons, shrews, and self-serving liars who were in some vague way responsible for 9/11. 9/11 occurred on the republican’s watch, and no amount of historical revisionism can deny this fact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Therefore, democratic representatives enter the chess game on defense with the black queen missing. (This is the equivalent of showing up for a gun fight with a knife.) In this case the black and the white queen represent the media. The democrats must play carefully because of the mainstream media’s formidable influence over Americans’ perceptions of events, debates and conclusions, and they have felt the sting of the media behemoth when it turns on them for an ill-spoken phrase or the slightest hint of impropriety, while creating an atmosphere of cynical acceptance for republican malfeasance. It is the exact formula to prevent accountability for republican representatives, and has been used by the Mob and intelligence agencies for years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If one wonders where so much corrupt, misrepresented, and mean-spirited legislation comes from, it is the cooperation between the corporate and intelligence communities that is the driving force against our democratic republic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These are just some of the disadvantages that the democrats have to reason through if not to gain remarkable victories, at least to be able to hold their position.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another problem democrats face is that some of them want to grow up to be republicans. They have bought into the concept that what is good for business is good for America, yet there are many historical examples that prove that concept is false.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is unrestricted corruption and greed the wisest path? The republicans need to prove this, other than through rhetoric and propaganda to maintain the illusion that is created to solely benefit their circles of influence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Supposely America has cycled between extreme corruption, (manipulation of the system by corporate and wealthy individuals’,) to periods of adjustment so that at least the appearance of fairness, and equal opportunity occurs, though the actual downward distribution of wealth is a minimal concession of those in power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With scarce resourses and looming economic collapse in the not too distant future, these phrases have become the justications for fraud, theft, betrayal and an absense of heroic leadership, (necessary when the ship is sinking.) Without such leadership the only one’s to survive extreme hardship, some people believe, are those who are focused on taking care of themselves at the expense of others; it is often a choice of the misguided and cowardly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is not political genius that makes the current administration appear to be a viable creation of the democratic process; it is the fact that the media serve as bodyguard, advocate, legal counsel and main propagandist for it. This works because the administration hands out favors and privilege to the “right-minded” (willing to play ball) media, as if they are rewards rather than tools of manipulation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately there are some, (whatever the exact percentage - too many,) people who would betray their “fellow citizens” for, what they believe is earned and entitled reward. Those who have been changing the direction the U.S. is headed are making their decisions based on their opinions rather than to take their cues from the here and now. Actions based on opinion are dangerous and irresponsible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite often liberals complain about the democratic representatives being spineless. This frame plays into the republican effort to make democratic representatives appear weak.</p>
<p>The problem is that Democratic Party members are locked into a chess game in which they draw the black pieces every time, since they are in the minority.</p>
<p>Passion is important because it is the energy behind change, but when it comes to implementing change, it is back to the chess board down a couple of pieces.</p>
<p>We just witnessed the power of propagandists in the media to sell their lies, with “The Path to 9/11.” </p>
<p>No one was permitted to say that republican incompetence and arrogance allowed 9/11 to occur, yet media giants like Disney and ABC believe that they can get away with slandering the previous administration and paint liberal leaning professionals, in and outside of government as baffoons, shrews, and self-serving liars who were in some vague way responsible for 9/11. 9/11 occurred on the republican’s watch, and no amount of historical revisionism can deny this fact.</p>
<p>Therefore, democratic representatives enter the chess game on defense with the black queen missing. (This is the equivalent of showing up for a gun fight with a knife.) In this case the black and the white queen represent the media. The democrats must play carefully because of the mainstream media’s formidable influence over Americans’ perceptions of events, debates and conclusions, and they have felt the sting of the media behemoth when it turns on them for an ill-spoken phrase or the slightest hint of impropriety, while creating an atmosphere of cynical acceptance for republican malfeasance. It is the exact formula to prevent accountability for republican representatives, and has been used by the Mob and intelligence agencies for years.</p>
<p>If one wonders where so much corrupt, misrepresented, and mean-spirited legislation comes from, it is the cooperation between the corporate and intelligence communities that is the driving force against our democratic republic.</p>
<p>These are just some of the disadvantages that the democrats have to reason through if not to gain remarkable victories, at least to be able to hold their position.</p>
<p>Another problem democrats face is that some of them want to grow up to be republicans. They have bought into the concept that what is good for business is good for America, yet there are many historical examples that prove that concept is false.</p>
<p>Is unrestricted corruption and greed the wisest path? The republicans need to prove this, other than through rhetoric and propaganda to maintain the illusion that is created to solely benefit their circles of influence.</p>
<p>Supposely America has cycled between extreme corruption, (manipulation of the system by corporate and wealthy individuals’,) to periods of adjustment so that at least the appearance of fairness, and equal opportunity occurs, though the actual downward distribution of wealth is a minimal concession of those in power.</p>
<p>With scarce resourses and looming economic collapse in the not too distant future, these phrases have become the justications for fraud, theft, betrayal and an absense of heroic leadership, (necessary when the ship is sinking.) Without such leadership the only one’s to survive extreme hardship, some people believe, are those who are focused on taking care of themselves at the expense of others; it is often a choice of the misguided and cowardly.</p>
<p>It is not political genius that makes the current administration appear to be a viable creation of the democratic process; it is the fact that the media serve as bodyguard, advocate, legal counsel and main propagandist for it. This works because the administration hands out favors and privilege to the “right-minded” (willing to play ball) media, as if they are rewards rather than tools of manipulation.</p>
<p>Unfortunately there are some, (whatever the exact percentage &#8211; too many,) people who would betray their “fellow citizens” for, what they believe is earned and entitled reward. Those who have been changing the direction the U.S. is headed are making their decisions based on their opinions rather than to take their cues from the here and now. Actions based on opinion are dangerous and irresponsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Capital J</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295474</link>
		<dc:creator>Capital J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Um… anyone still here? Anyway, I was chief judge at a polling place in Maryland on Tuesday, so I’ve dealt with Diebold equipment close-up (also in 2004).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First, I do not trust the software in the machines, because I know there are “secret” features built into the touch-screen interface. For instance, a supervisor can press a certain non-obvious spot on the screen to cancel out a ballot that was abandoned before being cast. I proudly don my tinfoil hat when joining discussions of Diebold.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, nefarious plans are also aided and abetted by plain old incompetence. Maryland’s new electronic poll-books (EPBs) would be a great convenience if they worked properly. However, the Diebold EPBs we had to use on Tuesday did a terrible job of encoding the access cards that activate the Diebold voting machines. We got our missing access cards pretty quickly, but 2/3 of the time they didn’t work in the EPB. (We had no problems at all using them in the voting machines.) The software on the EPBs also needs debugging and much more user training.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m more worried about Diebold themselves hacking the voting machines than an outsider doing it. At least in Maryland, we cover the unit’s keyholes with numbered “tamper tapes” that would reveal any attempt to access the memory cards, etc. And the units are secured to their stands, in cases which are locked with numbered seals. Chief judges spend lots of time writing down all sorts of serial numbers (including those on the memory cards) on various “chain of custody” documents that get submitted for review.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um… anyone still here? Anyway, I was chief judge at a polling place in Maryland on Tuesday, so I’ve dealt with Diebold equipment close-up (also in 2004).</p>
<p>First, I do not trust the software in the machines, because I know there are “secret” features built into the touch-screen interface. For instance, a supervisor can press a certain non-obvious spot on the screen to cancel out a ballot that was abandoned before being cast. I proudly don my tinfoil hat when joining discussions of Diebold.</p>
<p>However, nefarious plans are also aided and abetted by plain old incompetence. Maryland’s new electronic poll-books (EPBs) would be a great convenience if they worked properly. However, the Diebold EPBs we had to use on Tuesday did a terrible job of encoding the access cards that activate the Diebold voting machines. We got our missing access cards pretty quickly, but 2/3 of the time they didn’t work in the EPB. (We had no problems at all using them in the voting machines.) The software on the EPBs also needs debugging and much more user training.</p>
<p>I’m more worried about Diebold themselves hacking the voting machines than an outsider doing it. At least in Maryland, we cover the unit’s keyholes with numbered “tamper tapes” that would reveal any attempt to access the memory cards, etc. And the units are secured to their stands, in cases which are locked with numbered seals. Chief judges spend lots of time writing down all sorts of serial numbers (including those on the memory cards) on various “chain of custody” documents that get submitted for review.</p>
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		<title>By: dab from CT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295424</link>
		<dc:creator>dab from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-295048&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;*xyz @ 304 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A Diary over at Kos reports that the latest Rasmussen is in for CT - and it is good news for Lamont after those other (questionable) polls showing him behind by double digits.  I have cut and pasted the diary below:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rasmussen has just come out with a new poll behind the subscription wall, but since these polls are put out there&lt;br /&gt;
i figure it`s ok to give the results.&lt;br /&gt;
Rasmussen has this race a dead heat &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  LIEBERMAN  45&lt;br /&gt;
   LAMONT     43&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now all other polls show Lieberman with a double digit lead&lt;br /&gt;
so it`s a question who to believe. I think Rasmussen has a pretty good record with state polls. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;also of interest  TESTER  52&lt;br /&gt;
                   BURNS   43                  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/15/8291/46398&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....8291/46398&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing this xyz! It better matches what I see happening in CT. There is so much enthusiasm about Lamont’s campaign - his volunteer meetings are standing room only and are all over the state. There is so much energy and commitment and the more people see of Lamont, the more they like him. Driving around Connecticut - there are still Lamont signs up in people’s yards and support cuts across socio-economic segments. I’ve seen Lamont signs in blue collar neighborhoods in Danbury and also in upscale Redding, Ridgefield and Wilton. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, the same can’t be said about support for Liarman. In fact, as far as I can see all Liarman has going for him are a few CT Dem party leader defections, name recognition after being active in state politics for over 20 years, a national platform for his continued whining and projection and some apathy among old time Dems and Republican voters (oh, I forgot - support from Bush, Cheney, Rove and his friends at Fox). As the campaign heats up, I can see these things fade away (except the fervent support of BushCo and the wingnuts) and focus being placed on his record of rubber stamping BushCo, missing key votes on Iraq and his obnoxious and selfish behavior - and how all of the above negatively impact CT and our country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-295048"><em>*xyz @ 304 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A Diary over at Kos reports that the latest Rasmussen is in for CT &#8211; and it is good news for Lamont after those other (questionable) polls showing him behind by double digits.  I have cut and pasted the diary below:</p>
<p>Rasmussen has just come out with a new poll behind the subscription wall, but since these polls are put out there<br />
i figure it`s ok to give the results.<br />
Rasmussen has this race a dead heat </p>
<p>  LIEBERMAN  45<br />
   LAMONT     43</p>
<p>Now all other polls show Lieberman with a double digit lead<br />
so it`s a question who to believe. I think Rasmussen has a pretty good record with state polls. </p>
<p>also of interest  TESTER  52<br />
                   BURNS   43                  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/15/8291/46398">http://www.dailykos.com/storyo&#8230;..8291/46398</a></p>
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<p>Thanks for sharing this xyz! It better matches what I see happening in CT. There is so much enthusiasm about Lamont’s campaign &#8211; his volunteer meetings are standing room only and are all over the state. There is so much energy and commitment and the more people see of Lamont, the more they like him. Driving around Connecticut &#8211; there are still Lamont signs up in people’s yards and support cuts across socio-economic segments. I’ve seen Lamont signs in blue collar neighborhoods in Danbury and also in upscale Redding, Ridgefield and Wilton. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the same can’t be said about support for Liarman. In fact, as far as I can see all Liarman has going for him are a few CT Dem party leader defections, name recognition after being active in state politics for over 20 years, a national platform for his continued whining and projection and some apathy among old time Dems and Republican voters (oh, I forgot &#8211; support from Bush, Cheney, Rove and his friends at Fox). As the campaign heats up, I can see these things fade away (except the fervent support of BushCo and the wingnuts) and focus being placed on his record of rubber stamping BushCo, missing key votes on Iraq and his obnoxious and selfish behavior &#8211; and how all of the above negatively impact CT and our country.</p>
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		<title>By: webecelts</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295274</link>
		<dc:creator>webecelts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I live in a republican controlled district and I voted by absentee ballot last election, I still have  doubts about my vote being counted.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a republican controlled district and I voted by absentee ballot last election, I still have  doubts about my vote being counted.</p>
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		<title>By: Badwater</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295170</link>
		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Other famous walls and trenches in history: The Great Wall of China&lt;br /&gt;
The French Maginot Line&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, these ultimately failed.  Republicans probably know this.  However, builing these things gives Republicans great opportunities to gather yet more plunder.  That’s their real motivation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other famous walls and trenches in history: The Great Wall of China<br />
The French Maginot Line</p>
<p>Yes, these ultimately failed.  Republicans probably know this.  However, builing these things gives Republicans great opportunities to gather yet more plunder.  That’s their real motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bong</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295058</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/15/i-went-to-new-york-this-week/&quot;&gt;Big Dawg Thread!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/15/i-went-to-new-york-this-week/">Big Dawg Thread!</a></p>
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		<title>By: alittlemusicalityplease</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/14/late-nite-fdl-die-diebold-die/#comment-295057</link>
		<dc:creator>alittlemusicalityplease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-295026&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Old Sow @ 284&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;BBC says there will be a trench dug around the perimeter of Baghdad with specific checkpoints in an all out effort to reduce incidences of “terror” in the city.  Good Luck.  (see Sun Tzu linked at 270)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush said yesterday it’s not worth investing more resources in going after Osama bin Forgotten. But we can afford the money and manpower to build an f***king trench around Baghdad!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-295026"><em>Old Sow @ 284</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>BBC says there will be a trench dug around the perimeter of Baghdad with specific checkpoints in an all out effort to reduce incidences of “terror” in the city.  Good Luck.  (see Sun Tzu linked at 270)</p>
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<p>Bush said yesterday it’s not worth investing more resources in going after Osama bin Forgotten. But we can afford the money and manpower to build an f***king trench around Baghdad!!!</p>
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