
I don't know about you guys, but I'm about 9/11-ed out. This is one of the disadvantages of being Mr. Late Nite. By the time people get around to reading what I have to say about the events of the day, EVERYBODY else has had a crack at it.
Right now Preznint Gimme Back My Bullhorn is droning out his "non-political" speech and I have no choice but to listen to it since I'm working at the radio station and we're carrying it. Funny, is it me or is this is the same goddamn speech he's been making for the last five fucking years? Shut your pie-hole, you filthy old fraud! "9/11! 9/11! Saddam, Saddam!! STAY THE COOOOURSE!!" SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU BRAIN-DEAD PIECE OF POLITICAL ROADKILL!!
Ahem.
How stupid does he think we are?
Don't answer that.
Just in case you thought the Reich Wing would hit their sleaze saturation limit on exploiting the attacks five years ago, think again, kids. We have this from Andrew Sullivan (via Digby) giving us a sneak preview of what we have to look forward to in the next eight weeks until the elections:
Next week, I'm informed via troubled White House sources, will see the full unveiling of Karl Rove's fall election strategy. He's intending to line up 9/11 families to accuse McCain, Warner and Graham of delaying justice for the perpetrators of that atrocity, because they want to uphold the ancient judicial traditions of the U.S. military and abide by the Constitution. He will use the families as an argument for legalizing torture, setting up kangaroo courts for military prisoners, and giving war crime impunity for his own aides and cronies. This is his "Hail Mary" move for November; it's brutally exploitative of 9/11; it's pure partisanship; and it's designed to enable an untrammeled executive. Decent Republicans, Independents and Democrats must do all they can to expose and resist this latest descent into political thuggery. If you need proof that this administration's first priority is not a humane and effective counter-terror strategy, but a brutal, exploitative path to retaining power at any price, you just got it.
(Sully, what's the deal? Sometimes you write like a man with a brain. Then other times, you can't help dining out on your accent and Thatcherite cred, babbling nonsense like a dick-sucking Chris Hitchens. Whose side are you supposed to be on, anyway?)
But let's have a closer look at this strategy of Karl's.
He's intending to line up 9/11 families to accuse McCain, Warner and Graham of delaying justice for the perpetrators of that atrocity, because they want to uphold the ancient judicial traditions of the U.S. military and abide by the Constitution. He will use the families as an argument for legalizing torture, setting up kangaroo courts for military prisoners, and giving war crime impunity for his own aides and cronies.
Right. So, let's make sure this is clear to everyone. If you are a 9/11 family who want to find out the truth about what happened on September the 11th, 2001, fuck you. Similarly, if you are a veteran who needs health care, disagrees with the execution of the GWOT, or is suffering from PTSD, DOUBLE-fuck you. If you are a worker from Ground Zero who was lied to about the safety of the air in Manhattan after the attacks, well, fuck you sideways with a chainsaw. You'll be dead from chronic lung failure before the tenth anniversary of the attacks, anyway, so the administration only has to drown you out and deride you for a couple more years. They don't even have to call your heroism or credibility into question, cos, you know, you're too sick to stand up for yourself now.
However, if you are a 9/11 family member, bereaved war widow, or one of those passingly rare Republican veterans of the GWOT and are willing to whore out your grief and pain to be a hood ornament on Unca Karl's Big Hate Machine, then the administration honors your sacrifice, feels your pain, and wants to do anything it can to help you, if you'll just stand here for a moment and pose for the cameras next to the Preznint. Thank you.
So, if you're Cindy Sheehan, Kristin Breitweiser, or Paul Hackett, Karl Rove wants you to just STFU, and if you don't, he'll call out any number of Sean Hannitys, Ann Coulters or other surrogates to defame you, smear you, call you names, and accuse you of hating America and aiding the terrorists. Got that? If your pain and struggle has failed to turn you into a lock-stepping BushBot, then you are shit on the administration's shoes. If you're a soldier, then you are useful as a backdrop in press conferences and staged photo ops, but if you want to know where the fuck your body armor is and why we've sent you to Iraq, well, someone will get back to you. Eventually. Maybe by the time your fifth or sixth tour of duty is over.
Can we maybe try and get out ahead of this one for once? Beat the Rightards to the punch this time? We've got eight weeks, and the low men in charge of the government right now are going to try everything they can think of to maintain their death-grip on the reins of power. This time, however, the majority of national opinion is with us. We have the advantage. So, don't let up. Hit them with everything you've got. They're going to fight dirty. We're going to have to fight with our teeth bared and our claws out. In the words of our own Jane H, "Fuck 'em hard. This one's for all the marbles."
Never defend.
Never explain.
ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTAAAAAAAAACK!!
I leave you with Kristen Breitweiser's words to Karl Rove from June of 2005:
Finally Karl, please “understand” that the reason we have not suffered a repeat attack on our homeland is because Bin Laden no longer needs to attack us. Those of us with a pure and comprehensive “understanding of 9/11” know that Bin Laden committed the 9/11 attacks so he could increase recruitment for al Qaeda and increase worldwide hatred of America. That didn't happen. Because after 9/11, the world united with Americans and al Qaeda's recruitment levels never increased.
It was only after your invasion of Iraq, that Bin Laden's goals were met. Because of your war in Iraq two things happened that helped Bin Laden and the terrorists: al Qaeda recruitment soared and the United States is now alienated from and hated by the rest of the world. In effect, what Bin Laden could not achieve by murdering my husband and 3,000 others on 9/11, you handed to him on a silver platter with your invasion of Iraq - a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Which leads me to my final questions for you Karl: What are your motives when it comes to 9/11 and are you really sure that you understand 9/11?
Let me answer that question for you, Ms Breitweiser. Clearly, Rove and the rest of the GOP gestapo only understand 9/11 as far as they can exploit it for political gain. The rest of it's just background noise. Like, whose fault it was, how it could have been stopped, and what we could have learned from it? That's just, you know, nuance. And the administration doesn't "do nuance".
We've got a lot of work to do between now and November. Let's get busy.
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How stupid does he think we are?
He doesn’t care!
TRex, Jane, Christy and Keith Olbermann!
Fitz, too!
KO and Fire Dog Lake
Good night and good luck. Nice job Keith. Fuck you George.
Finally Karl, please “understand” that the reason we have not suffered a repeat attack on our homeland is because Bin Laden no longer needs to attack us. Those of us with a pure and comprehensive “understanding of 9/11” know that Bin Laden committed the 9/11 attacks so he could increase recruitment for al Qaeda and increase worldwide hatred of America.
I’d add a reminder that OBL hasn’t needed to attack us because Bush did what OBL most wanted: Got American troops out of Saudi Arabia.
I always like to remind Bush toelickers about their hero’s appeasement of OBL. They can never come back with a decent response to that one.
Watched the pre-game hoopla on Monday Night Football this evening. They managed to squeeze in a fair portion of faux-patriotic nationalist treacle.
Go, TRex!
And bravo TRex.
We now know why Coulter was used to attack the Jersey Girls.
A pre-emptive assault by the Queen of Mean.
So that their voices would be muted in this coming debate about the tragedy of 9/11.
Luckily for the Republicans and Rove they have a never ending supply of war-mongering hags like Coulter and of flaccid-assed keyboard commandos like Field Marshall Bill Kristol, Frank Gaffney, Glenn Blech and now Cyrus Nowrasteh, to shuck and shill for their wars and do their personal assassinations for no money down.
-GSD
more straw from bush’s speech: “Whatever mistakes have been made in Iraq, the worst mistake would be to think that if we pulled out, the terrorists would leave us alone,” the president said.
um, if we pulled out and redeployed our efforts (militarily, diplomatically, culturally) then we might end this threat or at least begin to really address it. the worst mistake was invading “mexico” to begin with.
T -Rex
Great post as always. As was said several times in the last thread, we have to get the Dems to sound like Mr Olbermann. Drown out the Orwellian Rove with the truth told plainly.
It sounds like Rove is planning to start his biggest smear campaign yet. Given how badly the Republicans are doing in the polls, it’s no surprise. But I think the public is wising up to the fact that this is the Admninistration’s standard operating procedure and is tuning them out. At least let’s hope so.
TRex– I love the picture and please tell me why you have kept the anti- Smells Like BS spray all to yourself all these long and dark years?
Sooo glad The Daily Show is back from vacation today.
EPUed below
The message should be
bin Laden spent $1 million with a crew of dozens to bring down two skyscrapers and kill 2700
Bush has managed to up the death and dollars ante 100-fold with no end in sight.
While Congress applauded (cue SOTU video clips - sorry Joe and Hillary - you looked more enthusiastic than Delay)
Throw the bastards out.
Roll the investigations and ready the Hague.
Aaaahhhhh, Mr. TRex,
For someone who wasn’t sure what he was going to say tonite, you’ve pretty well knocked the ball right smack dab outta the park. I do luv a roaring dinasour!
Waccamaw @ 16
RAHRRR!!!
Some troll cleanup needed at the bottom of the last post.
The things I kept thinking about was what would it have been like 5 years ago and after if Gore would have gotten the SC to vote for the real president and didn’t stick us with Dimwit.
I also thought about If America is finally deaf to the same old speeches of Bush.
And then we have the election season upon and Rove’s much anticipated carpet roll out of sleaze for the next month and a half. What if the public doesn’t buy it this time.
Great post, Mr. Rex.
TRex — Though an early Bush supporter, Andrew Sullivan has been opposing Bush/Cheney/Gonzalez on a wide range of foreign policy and constitutional issues for many months, and has been highlighted by Glenn Greenwald for doing so. It was not always so, but better late . . .
The Kristen Breitweiser quote is great. I hadn’t seen that. Thanks.
The “deer in the headlight” look has returned.
EPU’d from the last thread:
In most of our “books”, 9/11 is listed under the category of “Days That Will Live in Imfamy.” And we hope that there will be no new additions to that list.
But given the way Bush refers to 9/11 again and again and again, one has to wonder whether Bush’s book of politcs and war lists it under “Dates That Will Live in Infinity.”
Even more telling than Bush’s speech tonight which, as I said in the last thread, was pure pablum, is his interview with Matt Lauer.
If you haven’t watched, it, check it out at C&L and listen for the following exchange:
“Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. Okay?
“President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?
“Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.
“President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him. Plus, my job is to protect you. And most American people, if I said [to them] that we had who we think is the mastermind of the 9/11, they would say, ‘Why don’t you see if you can’t get information without torturing him,’ which is what we did . . . .
“Matt Lauer: I don’t want to let this ‘within the law issue’ slip though. I mean, if, in fact, there was water boarding used with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and for the viewers, that’s basically when you strap someone to a board and you make them feel as if they’re going to drown by putting them underwater, if that was legal and within the law, why couldn’t you do it at Guantanamo? Why did you have to go to a secret location around the world?
“President Bush: I’m not going to talk about techniques. And, I’m not going explain to the enemy what we’re doing. All I’m telling you is that you’ve asked me whether or not we’re doing things to protect the American people, and I want the American people to know we are doing so.”
You gotta see it. It’s chilling. When this guy was six years old, I’ll bethe pulled wings off of flies.
dlake
maybe Gore would have read the PDB
(literacy is underrated)
I was told there would be a pony. And candy. TRex, you *promised*!
Nowhere near as stupid as he is.
I’m sick to death of hearing him say these people “hate freedom”. Who hates freedom? Nobody! It’s the most ridiculous statement and equally ridiculous are the people who buy it.
They don’t hate our freedom. They hate what we do to them. Can we please return to some common sense!
Sometimes you have to look outside the box for some pertinent information.
Lookie here in old China.
Nearly half of Americans blame Bush for 9/11.
-GSD
Oh yeah, they are also reporting how Blair was heckled in Lebanon too.
Not a banner day for the coaltion of the willing, or as I call them, The Neo-Axis.
Oh yeah, Hezbollah claims 90% of their arsenal is intact.
Oh yeah, also, the Kurds don’t like the Iraqi flag so they aint gonna fly it.
Mission accomplished, Chimpy.
Gore would have helped write the PDB Mack @ 25 and hallelujah bekkieann @ 28!
Now Colbert mocking macaca and the Path to Whatevah.
GSD @ 29–
Or as Juan Cole calls them, the Axis of Oil.
Whose side are you supposed to be on, anyway?
Seems to me Chris Matthews and Andy switched sides about the same time. When they smelled that the other side might be winning.
How freaking admirable. I guess we need all the help we can get, but some of that help isn’t trustworthy.
bekkieann @ 28
Authoritarian cultists like the Republican party hate freedom. They are a direct and immediate threat to our way of life.
George W. Bush, The Great Squanderer
-GSD
We have a primary here in NY tomorrow! I am excited, I am working at the poll down the street. I am a Republican Inspector — they don’t have enough R’s in Harlem.
Good night and good voting tomorrow!!!
Well if you are not 911′ed out. The shorter Bush speech with commentary:
“Since the horror of 9/11, we’ve learned a great deal about the enemy.”
They are all terrorists.
“The war against this enemy is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century, and the calling of our generation.”
If so, where are the higher taxes to pay for it, a return to the draft to find those to fight it, and a call for sacrifice, errrr never mind.
“we resolved that we would go on the offense”
Pointless, ill conceived wars, torture, secret prisons, etc.
“I’m often asked why we’re in Iraq when Saddam Hussein was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks. The answer is that the regime of Saddam Hussein was a clear threat.”
Except he wasn’t.
“The world is safer because Saddam Hussein is no longer in power.”
Except it’s not.
“We will not leave until this work is done.”
Bush was too afraid to say, “Stay the course,” but this is what he meant.
“If we yield Iraq to men like bin Laden, our enemies will be emboldened”
Bush’s new favorite strawman: Agree with me or the terrorists win.
“We’ve created the Department of Homeland Security. We have torn down the wall that kept law enforcement and intelligence from sharing information. We’ve tightened security at our airports and seaports and borders, and we’ve created new programs to monitor enemy bank records and phone calls.”
DHS is a joke as is airport and seaport security. Remember Dubai Ports? And then there are his illegal programs.
“Five years after 9/11, our enemies have not succeeded in launching another attack on our soil, but they’ve not been idle.”
He said with fingers crossed, but be afraid anyway.
“The terrorists fear freedom as much as they do our firepower.”
Remember it was called Operation Iraqi Freedom. Is this kind of freedom you would wish on anyone?
“This struggle has been called a clash of civilizations. In truth, it is a struggle for civilization.”
Translation: Brown people suck.
“We are now in the early hours of this struggle between tyranny and freedom.”
This after 5 years. No exit strategy meet No Exit.
“Winning this war will require the determined efforts of a unified country, and we must put aside our differences and work together to meet the test that history has given us.”
This from the most polarizing President in our history. Yeah, I didn’t buy it either.
Will Sleazy Joe Lieberman decry the stinky “partisan politics” emanating from the GOP sewers that are being pried open by Rove and Mehlman?
I don’t think so.
Joe will keep up with his “Partisan politics must stop”. All while only one party rules the roost in the Whitehouse and both houses of congress.
-GSD
Man, hope this isn’t true (but many signs going in this direction recently), but another thing we should get out in front of is a “capture or killing” of Osama bin Forgotten just in time for the elections. For instance, if that happens, how can we respond?
Maybe that means the War on Terror(TM) is over and we can leave Iraq now! Seems worth preparing for at least.
That pet goat around his neck is starting to smell.
Way way OT. But I’m hoping for a YouTube war…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBi7z_D9Yk
bonkers @ 38
I was thinking that was a possibility but Abu Gonzales was interviewed over the weekend and asked about getting OBL. Abu basically said getting OBL wouldn’t change anything.
Excellent post again, TRex.
And Mack @15…”Hear, hear!” The Hague, or bust, for these conscience-less international criminals who are impersonating our leaders.
I think we should be prepared for all manner of October Surprises. Fortunately, though, I think the public is almost beyond coercion at this point. BushCo has cried “Wolf!” too many times.
Then again, my dad once quoted to me, “Son, you’ll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
I have been media free for days, incl fdl.
I couldn’t bear the slightest MSM 911 horseshit from pravda.
i love reading the thoughts of all you.
GSD,
Nice summation of the news there. Who would ever have guessed that the Kurds didn’t like the Iraqi flag? What a shocker….
Great post. I certainly do hope the Dems are thoroughly prepared for this and will get out in front. I mean, how many smacks up side the head do they have to take before they catch on.
And then there are those Dem politicians who seem to be handing victory to BushCo.
I am so disgusted with Dodd and the way he has handled the whole Lieberman thing. I’m glad folks in Iowa are providing him with a reality check.
An excerpt from the Hartford Courant about Dodd “testing the waters” in Iowa…
“Lieberman kept coming up Saturday. At the fire station, an Iowa Radio reporter popped the question. At the next stop, at a home in Ames, retiree Bob Wessel brought up the topic.
Dodd seemed to be caught off guard, and told Wessel, “The other guy [Democratic nominee Ned Lamont] has to run a better campaign. The last few days have not been good. He’s sticking his foot in his mouth.”
http://www.courant.com/news/lo.....lines-home
SHARKBABE!!!
Baby, where have you been?
Come here and hug my neck. Aren’t you a sight for a sore monitor.
Stick around. I’ll tell you about the red-headed man I have a crush on, hon.
No one could have known that the Kurds wanted their own country.
-Condi Rumsfeldcheneybush
I think my politics are a good match for yours, and I’m as pissed as the next guy about Bush and his appeasers, but the phrase “dick sucking Chris Hitchens,” as efficient a metaphor as it is, turns me off. WTF were you thinking? Sullivan and Hitchens have plenty of genuine flaws, many to which you pointed. I want to know if you have second thoughts about the comment, or if you don’t see a problem there.
Keith needs help on his rating (3 stars out of 6 at 11:45EDT) Go to :
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
and give him some love. Thanks FDL. You give me hope, let me laugh, give me a place to vent, send rubber-stamps, You are my shero’s
Champagne all around, my dears. Champagne all around.
HotFlash @
26
Even better we got some TRex ATTACK candy! *s*
Sully is on Sully’s side, dear, in case you hadn’t noticed, Which, not coincidentally, seems to be on the same side as the great fan of the assfucking, Ana Marie Cox (time.com)
Gotta wonder what that time.com Xmas party’s gonna be like this year with these two rookies on board, eh?
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hey, S’babe, zup?
I know something about public speaking - I’ve written and delivered a fairly public address an average of at least once a week, every week, for the last 18 years. I’ve helped with political speeches, and I’ve read presidential speeches voraciously ever since junior high.
After tonight’s address, I had the same thought QUALAR did above: “Deer in the headlights” is back indeed.
Olbermann quoted Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address right before Bush spoke, and everyone watching knew that there was no way Bush was going to speak like that. Put Bush up alongside Kennedy, FDR, Reagan, or Teddy Roosevelt, and he comes up short. Every time. And it’s not even close.
Here’s the worst part: I think Bush likes that.
He thinks it shows that he’s an “ordinary guy” in an extraordinary job, and that this will help him connect with other “ordinary folks” out there in TV land. That might have worked when he was running for office against Gore and Kerry, who could wonk with the best of them. But now, he’s president, and no one - not even the GOPers - want a president who can’t give a coherent speech, nore a president who can’t inspire when inspiration is called for.
Petedownunder (love the handle, BTW!) hit this one on the head: “Drown out the Orwellian Rove with the truth told plainly.” (emphasis added)
The truth told plainly is Harry Truman, going after war profiteers. The truth told plainly is MLK, Jr. on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. The truth told plainly is what makes Olbermann so exciting to watch. The truth told plainly is Barbara Jordan going after the criminal activities of the Nixon White House. The truth told plainly is part of Ned Lamont’s appeal. The truth told plainly is why John Murtha scares the bejesus out of Karl Rove.
Let the word go out, from this time and place, to all the progressives running for office, all the campaign workers for these candidates, and all the supporters who want them to win: The Truth Told Plainly will win elections. It’s time, and folks have had enough.
jf @
49
As a devoted dick-sucker myself, I see no problem with thusly characterizing Mr. Sullivan.
TRex- What an awesome rant! Just had to come out of my lurking to say THANK YOU!
In another classic case of projection, the human jizz stain speaks.
“There’s a hard, cold reality out there, ladies and gentlemen, that we must face: America is at war with Islamofascism, and American liberals are at war with America.” - Rush Limbaugh, 9/11/06
-GSD
looks like the neoclowns and their brain-dead zombie followers are showing us EXACTLY how to pull their craggy claws from off the contols of the US foreign and national policy: monitor and disseminate the facts surrounding their WELL-DOCUMENTED corruption, malfeasance and racism.
look at how many elections the dems seem to be pulling out in front of by SOLELY not being REPUBLICAN=CORRUPT POLITICIAN.
follow the trail of political influence and corruption
(like who paid for the path to nine-eleven anyway?)
Hugh @ 36
Great list, but you left out my favorite, right at the top of the speech:
“Since that day, America and her allies have taken the offensive in a war unlike any we have fought before.”
Right. We’ve done things America’s never done before: employed secret detention camps, extraordinary rendition, and torture.
GSD @ 58
Mascul Out
Sharkbabe - Excellent choice on hiatus timing imo. While you were out I had to vent with a few expletives in your honor of course.
Arright, y’all. Gotta pack up and head home. No store trip tonight, so I won’t be long.
TRex @
56
IS this a matter of taste?
-GSD
jf @ 49
FWIW, I thought it was brilliant.
O trex - what a time i had with the girl saturday night - how delicious can life get
steak - yawn
sizzle - everything
W:
oh, yeah? so, those weren’t terrrrists who sent the anthrax?
I’m feeling incredibly 9/11′ed out too. But I live five blocks from Ground Zero and next to the parking garage that provides the base for the Tribute in Light. I walk past Ground Zero at least five or six times a week and I went by tonight.
I can’t offer any commentary because, frankly, I’m not comfortable saying everything I have to say. I’m angry, I’m tired, I have contradictory opinions and I don’t know how to put that all together.
Instead, here are fifteen pictures I took tonight - most are from the Tribute in Light, as well as some shots of Ground Zero. All are viewable in my September 11th Flickr set.
TRex @ 56
Coulda done without THAT though. There ARE some guys here who like P*ssy, T. (although, to be honest, not many) :)
GSD @ 64
You go with your strengths in life.
bonkers @
38
Yeah, while The Tall One’s capture is still devoutly to be wished for, I also hope Dr. Dean et.al. are focus-grouping the hell outta the message should it happen between now and 11/7.
“Five years too late!”
“No longer the threat he was five years ago”
“Distraction of Iraq took W’s eye off the ball”
“What took you so long, Mr. President?”
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TeddySanFran @ 67
oh, yeah? so, those weren’t terrrrists who sent the anthrax?
No, that was the RNC.
hey, S’babe, zup?
nuttin, still lurvin you bitch
Matt Browner-Hamlin @
68
Thanks for the pics.
I have to get to bed now. I didn’t watch too much news tonight either……I strongly avoided Chimpy.
Peace.
-GSD
As I’ve watched this play out over the last few years, I believe the most dangerous people are not GW, Cheney, etal. It is their “base”-the so-called “Conservative Christians” that they play to. We all know the GWOT’s (Bushco) are in it for the money and power, along with some slapdown to Dems who questioned their authority or beat them (Clinton) over the years. But their base is even scarier-they will absolutely sacrifice everything so that a woman can’t have an abortion - I honestly think a lot of this is about abortion. Because you know they care so much about that child until it comes out of the womb, and then they don’t give a shit about it. It just keeps coming up in the back of my mind that this is a lot of what drives the hatred and refusal to see what this administration really is.
And he may have no problem with the term either. I haven’t been visiting this site religiously recently, but it just caught me off guard. Not what I have come to expect from Jane and Co. Anyway, you guys have fun.
No, please. I’m happy to help.
He thinks we’re exactly as stupid as he is. What other frame of reference does he have to work with?
I think this was my favorite link of the day since I watched Olbermann on the tele.
September 11, 2006 has a special significance. It marks 100 years to the day that Mohandas K. Gandhi launched the modern nonviolent movement.
http://www.nyc-dop.com/gandhi/
Sorry I don’t remember who posted it earlier.
you think you’re 9/11-ed out!
we here in australia started a day ahead of you’s, and haven’t ended until today (the 12th). ergh! man did i need a beer after watching the path to non-accountability last nite.
so many errors, major and minor.
hi t-rex! hope we aren’t going to have any trademark disputes…
Juan Carlos!
Vicki at :04 - and what is very strange is that it really does come down to the fact that women have sex voluntarily - because they want to, because it is fun. I think that for some of them, babies and motherhood are punishment for having naughty sex, and getting an abortion is like trying to escape your punishment. And women should be confined to their wombs. The same argument would apply to their craziness regarding homosexuality - if you can’t have babies from sex, then you can’t be punished, and you therefore must be “converted”, wished into non-existence, or otherwise obliterated.
I wrote Chris Dodd an email and told him that Democrats don’t refer to fellow Democrats as “the other guy.” Has a name, is on your team, won your primary, etc.
Vicki @
75
right… how do you play to a base that wants revelations to come true? who cares about endless war or global warming? the rapture’s comin’!
tommy yum @
51
more, please, sir yum!
i just want to say for the record that i think that Lamont beating Leiberman has been the turning point for the mainstream media. they have totally been made aware that the public is not behind bush and the war, and it is like the gloves have come off. look at the way the mainstream media is finally standing up to these criminals. i am hopeful, and i want to thank jane, christy, t-rex and everyone here at FDL for all they do- it has made a difference!!!
Palmetto Progressive @ 50
I gave him some props…but, think of this, too. 3 out of 5 is 60% approval. Five years ago, he probably wouldn’t have gotten one star for showing the balls he has the last couple of weeks.
Astral - I think you’re right - this would also explain their problems with homosexuality. So here’s my question - how do we fight that? You can show someone every fact in the world, but you cannot change a belief that is deeply held. Or maybe these are only the “29 per-centers” who are hopeless anyway (I am talking about elections).
And tonight, in a purely political speech, the president left yet another open wound infected and untreated.
“Mmmmmm, Karl… No matter what torture-and-FOX News-free shithole the World Court sentences us to, we’ll always have Washington… Oh, and Austin, too”
;>)
Posting one last time for the late night crowd.
Something I wrote earlier today:
Are you afraid to die? if you are, you’re afraid to live. If you’re afraid to live, you might as well die.
In the five years since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Bush Administration has sold fear to keep themselves in power. These days, it’s about all they have left.
In the five years since those attacks, Osama bin Butthead and his minions have won every battle. They have a lot to celebrate today.
Keep Americans in fear? No problem, GW and HIS minions are doing a great job of that.
Kill more Anericans? Hey GW Bush and his minions attacked Iraq and we’ve more than DOUBLED the American death toll, and we’ve hardly had to life a finger to make that happen!
Damage the American economy? GW Bush did our dirty work for us. Fuel has doubled in price, the housing market is cooling faster than grandma’s pie on the window sill, they’re STILL sending jobs overseas and the American middle class is sinking, one by one, closer to poverty.
Yet, the GW Bush minions say THEY are winning the war on terror.
I’d say ol’ Osama bin Butthead is enjoying this day, celebrating with some virgins and a lovely Pakistani meal. Meanwhile, the hand-wringing continues, nothing constructive is done, the administration continues to sell fear and our freedoms, one by one, fall farther back in the rear-view mirror.
So I have one suggestion for all who read tis on this day - Live your lives without fear. Fly on an airliner. Take a walk across the Golden Gate Bridge. Have lunch at the top of the Space Needle or the Sears Tower. Take a Pentagon Tour. Go to a ball game.
But don’t cower in fear any more. If it’s your time, it’s your time. Live each day like it might be your last, and show not only Osama bin Butthead but GW Bush and his minions that you are NOT AFRAID, and that they can take all the fear they want to sell, and shove it up their ass. YOU are going to live your life with your head up, eyes open and let the chips fall where they will. You will no longer live in fear.
By the way, vote Democratic in two months. :-D
p-rex: yes, these are really the people who scare me the most, these are the ones who back this administration no matter what, who suck up to whatever lies they are telling that day. No matter that everything about this administration is decidely “unchristian”.
Hey, TRex -
Wherever did you find the old photo of Laura using the air freshener after George dumped a bomb? WMD indeed!
Vicki, I don’t know. I can only see it getting worn down to a ridiculous last stubby remnant of people - the hard-core hold-outs, who end up crowded out of the center of public opinion after all other people realize their foolishness.
Peterr @ 55,
Amen, preach it!
I am going to Amsterdam for christmas. Because I fucking feel like it.
funny thing is, vicki, there is a scriptural answer to everything they say (because the bible is really a mixed bag of a few thousand years’ changing ideology)…but there’s no guarantee at all that any “christian” will actually listen!
it’s probably because faith and facts are inherently incongruous.
there’s a word for what needs to be made out of fundamentalists of ALL stripes: PARIAHS
fundamentalism is bad for society.
Why does Katie Couric hate Americans who died from anthrax? Tonight (I clicked over to CBSnooze just for the fashion — omg, that headband stretched back all her face skin!) she said, “There’ve been no terrorist attacks on American soil since 911.”
People died in the anthrax attacks, and our government has never solved them or captured the terrorists.
Why don’t we hear about this anymore? Will there be five year commemorations of the anthrax attacks?
As I said this morning:
On this day of days, the essential character of the George W. Bush Admininstration stands out in all its ugliness:
You ran away and hid!
TSF - that anthrax business stinks to high heavens
hey teddysanfran,
and wasn’t that weaponized anthrax that could’ve only been developed in an american lab?
and didn’t cheney’s staff start taking cipro before 9/11?
hmmmmmmmmm. ok, another belgian ale.
So True, Mad Dog, so goddam true.
tommy yum, you are the best and most charming person to host a cool-down ever, as evidenced by last night. My little sherry did wonders and the fire was warm and comforting. You got me through last night, and I’m grateful. Thank you. I think I’ll wait on the champagne until tomorrow. ‘Til then.
TRex- For an all day train of 9/11 commentary, I think it just got a power surge from the caboose !