Comments on: 9/11 Families (Still) Deserve Justice http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:02:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: DTW 06 http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-291557 DTW 06 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 02:34:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-291557 <p>Lobster hit the nail on the head. Pakistan scares the hell out of me. Following is my post on the roots of 9/11. Will anyone ever hold Saudi Arabia accountable?</p> <p><a href="http://questionitnow.com/iraqb/2006/09/long-winding-road-to-9112001.html"> The Long & Winding Road to 9/11/2001</a><br /> Much has been made about ABC’s prime time fictional mini-series “The Path to 9/11″ and how it opens with an unflattering, distorted picture of the Clinton years. In arguing for a more realistic portrayal, I heard one commentator state that by rights the show should have opened with Oliver North and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair">Iran-Contra Affair</a>. That was a thought stimulating suggestion, but it is as wrong as the so called docudrama.</p> <p>No, the roots of 9/11 arguably go back to the story is Abraham and his sons <a href="http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Vol2/4d.html">Ishmael and Isaac</a>. Still, I trust we are best served by looking for the key foot paths that lead to the tragic events of September 11, 2001 in the 20th Century. <a href="http://questionitnow.com/iraqb/2006/09/long-winding-road-to-9112001.html">[more]</a></p> <p><a href="http://questionitnow.com">QuestionItNow</a></p> Lobster hit the nail on the head. Pakistan scares the hell out of me. Following is my post on the roots of 9/11. Will anyone ever hold Saudi Arabia accountable?

The Long & Winding Road to 9/11/2001
Much has been made about ABC’s prime time fictional mini-series “The Path to 9/11″ and how it opens with an unflattering, distorted picture of the Clinton years. In arguing for a more realistic portrayal, I heard one commentator state that by rights the show should have opened with Oliver North and the Iran-Contra Affair. That was a thought stimulating suggestion, but it is as wrong as the so called docudrama.

No, the roots of 9/11 arguably go back to the story is Abraham and his sons Ishmael and Isaac. Still, I trust we are best served by looking for the key foot paths that lead to the tragic events of September 11, 2001 in the 20th Century. [more]

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]]> By: lll http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-290562 lll Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:53:36 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-290562 <p>jennifer,</p> <p>please be careful about anything jim marrs is involved with. his repurtation vis a vis the jfk conspiracy is not exactly stellar, despite his connection to stone’s project.</p> jennifer,

please be careful about anything jim marrs is involved with. his repurtation vis a vis the jfk conspiracy is not exactly stellar, despite his connection to stone’s project.

]]> By: Brian Boru http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-290075 Brian Boru Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:39:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-290075 <p>Very, very interesting reading if one googles “Barbar Honegger”, pentagon</p> Very, very interesting reading if one googles “Barbar Honegger”, pentagon

]]> By: Walking with Cheney http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-290024 Walking with Cheney Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:00:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-290024 <p>Yup, Hamilton is 0-4 in investigations and _all_ of them have been hopelessly disingenious, at best. He comes on strong, acts all bipartisian, and then screws the pooch. And _all_ of the investigations are about serious spookly national security issues. Oh, and afterward, he goes around acting all concerned about the reception of the investigations. Argh. Lee Hamilton is _not_ an investigator, he has some other agenda and whatever it is doesn’t include the public good or the public’s right to know. He is, in short, a tool. Not a kindly old Congressman, not a befuddled misleaded Congressman, not a reasonable person at all. </p> <p>Alos, I’d like to mention that Press for Truth is pretty good. No missiles, no explosives, no death rays, no crap–and just the most obvious holes in the 9.11 commission’s report. It is worth seeing.</p> Yup, Hamilton is 0-4 in investigations and _all_ of them have been hopelessly disingenious, at best. He comes on strong, acts all bipartisian, and then screws the pooch. And _all_ of the investigations are about serious spookly national security issues. Oh, and afterward, he goes around acting all concerned about the reception of the investigations. Argh. Lee Hamilton is _not_ an investigator, he has some other agenda and whatever it is doesn’t include the public good or the public’s right to know. He is, in short, a tool. Not a kindly old Congressman, not a befuddled misleaded Congressman, not a reasonable person at all.

Alos, I’d like to mention that Press for Truth is pretty good. No missiles, no explosives, no death rays, no crap–and just the most obvious holes in the 9.11 commission’s report. It is worth seeing.

]]> By: p-rex http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289996 p-rex Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:47:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289996 <p>hi marily, if you’re still here…<br /> didn’t mean to make it sound like i was implying any conspiratorial talk on your part. i just find any time pnac is mentioned, the ‘tin foil hat’ accusations come.</p> <p>someone else mentioned lee hamilton — yes, lee is now 0-for-4 in investigations…</p> hi marily, if you’re still here…
didn’t mean to make it sound like i was implying any conspiratorial talk on your part. i just find any time pnac is mentioned, the ‘tin foil hat’ accusations come.

someone else mentioned lee hamilton — yes, lee is now 0-for-4 in investigations…

]]> By: LindyH http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289931 LindyH Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:12:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289931 <p><a href="#comment-289641"><em>Eli @<br /> 66 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><i>A few days ago on Countdown, Dana Milbank compared Bush to Barney Fife, running around, rounding up and arresting all the citizens of Mayberry. But, as Keith said, there’s no Andy to come and rescue us…</i></p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxPj406YDtE">Funny you should mention that…</a></p></blockquote> <p>Eli! THANK you!</p> Eli @
66

A few days ago on Countdown, Dana Milbank compared Bush to Barney Fife, running around, rounding up and arresting all the citizens of Mayberry. But, as Keith said, there’s no Andy to come and rescue us…

Funny you should mention that…

Eli! THANK you!

]]> By: Prairie Sunshine http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289918 Prairie Sunshine Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:02:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289918 <p>Such wonderful postings and comments this evening. Have fun in the Big Apple, Jane and Christy! Still in tall timber country somewhere north of the Minne-apple [go, Vikings!], so just a quick comment and props to GPB #7 and Motherbear#15 from Jane’s thread.</p> <p>And as for me, The Only Thing We Have to Fear, Is the Fearmongers… Bush, Chee-knee, Rove, Abu are the evil within.</p> <p>Vote! The one day we all own our democracy.</p> Such wonderful postings and comments this evening. Have fun in the Big Apple, Jane and Christy! Still in tall timber country somewhere north of the Minne-apple [go, Vikings!], so just a quick comment and props to GPB #7 and Motherbear#15 from Jane’s thread.

And as for me, The Only Thing We Have to Fear, Is the Fearmongers… Bush, Chee-knee, Rove, Abu are the evil within.

Vote! The one day we all own our democracy.

]]> By: Ian Campbell http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289915 Ian Campbell Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:00:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289915 <p>I don’t get why so many commenters here are glossing over the main point of this post.</p> <blockquote><p> “And what is the title of <em>that </em>post?”</p> <p>“I believe it’s, <b>‘9/11 Families (still) Deserve Justice’</b> “.</p></blockquote> <p>Come on people…”9/11 Press for Truth” is AMAZING. Please check it out. The families need our support.</p> <p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083&hl=en">FREE on Google Video</a> - the whole thing</p> I don’t get why so many commenters here are glossing over the main point of this post.

“And what is the title of that post?”

“I believe it’s, ‘9/11 Families (still) Deserve Justice’ “.

Come on people…”9/11 Press for Truth” is AMAZING. Please check it out. The families need our support.

FREE on Google Video – the whole thing

]]> By: Walking with Cheney http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289905 Walking with Cheney Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:54:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289905 <p>I just wanted to say that I hate when I see Lee Hamilton’s name come up in 9.11 Commission discussions and no one mentions that Hamilton has a history. He was the _chair_ of the Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran and, hey, guess what? He decided not to investigate! Oh, no, he took the job claiming to be very serious about it, very adult, very rightgeous, and the fucker immediately turned around and closed down the investigation. Why? Well, you know, so close to Watergate it would be “bad for the country” to investigate this part of Iran-Contra. </p> <p>Why, oh, why wasn’t he driven off of the Commission right at the beginning? Why does _anyone_ think he might be interested in “investigating” 9.11?</p> I just wanted to say that I hate when I see Lee Hamilton’s name come up in 9.11 Commission discussions and no one mentions that Hamilton has a history. He was the _chair_ of the Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran and, hey, guess what? He decided not to investigate! Oh, no, he took the job claiming to be very serious about it, very adult, very rightgeous, and the fucker immediately turned around and closed down the investigation. Why? Well, you know, so close to Watergate it would be “bad for the country” to investigate this part of Iran-Contra.

Why, oh, why wasn’t he driven off of the Commission right at the beginning? Why does _anyone_ think he might be interested in “investigating” 9.11?

]]> By: marily http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289874 marily Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:32:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/11/911-families-still-deserve-justice/#comment-289874 <p><a href="#comment-289808"><em>immanentize @ 220 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Someone on an earlier thread (LHP?) mentioned the 9/11 tourists — the tragedy pornographers who have themselves photographed in front of the gaping hole where so many lives and dreams were just snipped off in mid-existance.</p> <p>I thought of two things — rather random, but still they popped into my mind. The first was the beginning of Nicannor Parra’s poem, “The Viper:”</p> <blockquote><p>For many long years I was condemned to love a contemptible woman<br /> To sacrifice myself for her, to suffer countless humiliations and deceptions,<br /> To work day and night to feed and clothe her,<br /> To carry out a few crimes, commit a few misdeameanors,<br /> Perform petty burglaries by the light of the moon,<br /> Forgeries of compromising documents,<br /> For fear of being disgraced in the sight of her fascinating eyes.<br /> When we got along we would meet in parks<br /> And have our picture taken together steering a motorboat,<br /> Or we would go to a nightclub<br /> Where we would lose ourselves in shameless dancing<br /> That went on until all hours of the morning. </p></blockquote> </blockquote> <p></p> <p>I know that you are a recognized and respected commenter here and other places, but I find that offensive and inappropriate. Relationships with women and/or men are not an appropriate analogy on this day on this subject. And people have different feelings about out-of-towners coming in to see the site, and a post from last evening suggested that the hawkers had a place in the recovery of the city, for better or worse. Just a bad choice of material for this occasion. (I might add for any, but I am totally without mirth or understanding this day.)</p> immanentize @ 220

Someone on an earlier thread (LHP?) mentioned the 9/11 tourists — the tragedy pornographers who have themselves photographed in front of the gaping hole where so many lives and dreams were just snipped off in mid-existance.

I thought of two things — rather random, but still they popped into my mind. The first was the beginning of Nicannor Parra’s poem, “The Viper:”

For many long years I was condemned to love a contemptible woman
To sacrifice myself for her, to suffer countless humiliations and deceptions,
To work day and night to feed and clothe her,
To carry out a few crimes, commit a few misdeameanors,
Perform petty burglaries by the light of the moon,
Forgeries of compromising documents,
For fear of being disgraced in the sight of her fascinating eyes.
When we got along we would meet in parks
And have our picture taken together steering a motorboat,
Or we would go to a nightclub
Where we would lose ourselves in shameless dancing
That went on until all hours of the morning.

I know that you are a recognized and respected commenter here and other places, but I find that offensive and inappropriate. Relationships with women and/or men are not an appropriate analogy on this day on this subject. And people have different feelings about out-of-towners coming in to see the site, and a post from last evening suggested that the hawkers had a place in the recovery of the city, for better or worse. Just a bad choice of material for this occasion. (I might add for any, but I am totally without mirth or understanding this day.)

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