Update: The Nation is reporting that Disney’s Robert Iger is "deeply troubled" about the right-wing agenda of the "Path to 9/11." So, yank it, Bob. Yank it.
On this anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the National Press Club played host to no less than three press conferences about the work of the 9/11 Commission, with the Commission’s Democratic co-chair using one as the opportunity for his first public statements about ABC’s "Path to 9/11."
Hamilton and and his Republican co-chair Thomas Kean appeared at a press club luncheon to urge Congress and the administration to act on many of the Commission’s recommendations, which have to date not been implemented. With Kean’s credibility sullied due to his paid consultancy on the politicized and partisan ABC docudrama (part II will air tonight), Hamilton must be none too pleased about collateral damage done to the Commission’s reputation. He had this to say about the Disney/ABC’s project:
“I was not asked to participate in the ABC production … I didn’t even know about it … After there was a screening … which I did not attend, I got calls from several Democrats who objected very strongly to the way in which Sandy Berger and Madeleine Albright and even President Clinton were portrayed.
As it was described to me then, I thought that the letter signed by Bruce Lindsey and Doug Band was accurate in their criticisms of ABC, that they portrayed Sandy Berger and Madeleine Albright doing things that they did not in fact do.
Now ABC presents this, as I understand it – I didn’t see it last night either – as a docu-drama. I don’t like the ring of that. It is either a documentary or it is a drama and to fudge it causes me a great deal of concern, and suggests to me that news and entertainment are getting dangerously intertwined, and I do not think that is good for the country, because an event of this consequence is very hard to understand. To distort it, or not to present it factually in this kind of presentation does not serve the country well.”
Despite ABC’s 11th hour, secretive edits of "Path to 9/11," critics charged today that what aired last night was still full of inaccuracies and outright lies. President Clinton’s lawyer, Bruce Lindsey fired off letter number 2 to Disney’s Bob Iger today, with an attached fact sheet of the movie’s many deceits (I’ll put the fact sheet, in total, at the end of this post). And Richard Clarke had this to say on the ABC News web site today.
Ouch. Oh, ABC. You are just lovin’ that Youth With a Mission-The Film Institute-David Horowitz cabal now, huh? Should have listened to the public outcry and not been so damn concerned about making a buck. And don’t forget that it’s a matter of public record now, too, that while you may have aired your lengthy and awkward disclaimer about the movie being fictionalized and having composite characters here in the U.S., we know very well that you were still promoting it outside the U.S. as "the official true story."
But, enough about ABC’s Path to Shame. The other press conferences this morning were even more interesting than the Kean/Hamilton dog-and-pony show. I wonder how many reporters showed up to a press conference, sponsored by the McClendon Group. Info at the National Press Club site reads:
On the Fifth Anniversary of the Attacks and just three hours before the Kean-Hamilton luncheon address, the former top Air Force officer who won Florida’s 15th District Democratic primary with 54% of the vote on an explicit platform to expose the fraud of the Kean Commission Report, and top 9/11 researchers, authors and activists will present hard proof that the official narrative of the Kean-Hamilton Commission and Bush-Cheney Administration is a fraud of world historic proportions. Proposed legislation for a new and genuinely independent expert investigation, the first reality-based 9/11 feature film, and the International Grand Jury on the Crimes of 9/11 will be announced. Speakers will make brief presentations and take questions from the press:
Dr. Robert Bowman, Lt. Col. USAF (Ret.), one of the nation’s foremost authorities on national security, directed all ‘Star Wars’ programs under Presidents Ford and Carter, flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam, has a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech, and has chaired eight international conferences. Dr. Bowman is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, and the Air Medal with five oak leaf clusters, among many others.
Jim Marrs, award-winning Texas journalist and author of the 9/11 expose Inside Job and just-released sequel The Terror Conspiracy, which includes “The Pentagon Attack Papers”, is a former U.S. Army Intelligence officer.
He is the author of the New York Times Best Seller Crossfire, which was a basis for Oliver Stone’s film “JFK”, on which he served as a chief consultant. He is working on a movie script whose final scene will awaken audiences
to the fact that 9/11 attacks were a mass assassination.Barbara Honegger, former White House Policy Analyst to President Reagan and Senior military affairs journalist is the author of The Pentagon Attack Papers that has transformed the understanding of what happened inside the Pentagon on 9/11. Ms. Honegger’s seminal contributions on the central importance of plane-into-tower and hijack-scenario counter-terror exercises and wargames being run by the military and intelligence communities that morning explain core ‘mysteries’ the 9/11 Commission acknowledged it hadn’t solved: How the date for the attacks was chosen, and why Mohammed Atta traveled to Portland, Maine.
Lynn Pentz, producer/creative director, breakthrough consultant, and grass-roots organizer, has been centrally involved in some of the largest transformation entertainment events of recent times, including Live Aid, Hands Across America, and the Bicentennial Celebration of the U.S. Constitution. Ms. Pentz is co-founder of 9/11 Truth Los Angeles, director of the film documentary “Connecting the Dots: Awakening to the Crimes of 9/11”, and convener of the Citizens Grand Jury on 9/11. A national speaker in the 9/11 Truth movement, Ms. Pentz will announce the upcoming International People’s Grand Jury on the Crimes of 9/11:
The Case to Indict.”
I’ve heard precious little about that, so thought it worthy of noting. But I am most moved by the press conference held at 11 am this morning, by the 9/11 Families and the producers of the documentary "9/11 Press for Truth." Producer Kyle Hence, of 9/11 Citizens Watch had this to say on the group’s web site this week, and the families today launched a campaign to demand a new non-partisan investigation–not bi-partisan–into what happened, because the Commission was unwilling or unable to answer "70% of the families’ questions regarding the events of 9/11."
Participants will highlight a growing body of evidence calling into question the credibility of the 9/11 Report and will demand a new investigation by a new Congress into the attacks of September 11th. Participants will also briefly comment on the speeches of Commissioners Kean and Hamilton following their remarks at the luncheon at directly following the event.
These families aren’t saying this for political effect, close to the midterm elections. They’ve been pressing for a new investigation ever since the 9/11 Commission Report was released. You can see an old press conference on C-Span.org:
9/11 CitizensWatch Press Conference of Commission Hearings
Kyle Hence & John Judge, co-founders of 9/11 CitizensWatch, hold a press conference to critique this week’s final hearing of the National September 11 Commission. Victims’ families, journalists and government employees are represented among the participants.
6/18/2004: WASHINGTON, DC: 1 hr.
I’m doing my best to get some video of the 9/11 Families press conference, but in the meantime, the entire film is still up at MediaChannel today. You can also see various clips on YouTube and Alternet. Culled from 7000 mainstream media reports and this exhaustive and well-sourced timeline, this movie leaves little doubt that, five years later, we still have no idea of what really happened.
With George Bush getting primetime coverage for whatever bogus claims he’ll make tonight, and Disney/ABC serving up its GOP Mouse-u-mentary, it sure would be nice to see some netroots support "9/11 Press for Truth." If enough people learn about this movie and the 9/11 Families’ campaign to bring the truth to light, we might actually learn some lessons from all the mistakes that were made.
For the record, here is the text of the fact sheet that Bruce Lindsey sent to ABC’s Bob Iger today.
“PATH TO 9/11” FABRICATIONS vs 9/11 COMMISSION FACTS In promotional advertisements, ABC has claimed that their “Path to 9/11” film (scheduled for broadcast
September 10 & 11) is “based on the 9/11 Commission Report.”
The following details scenes from “Path to 9/11” which were fabricated and cannot be substantiated by
the text of the 9/11 Commission Report.
“PATH TO 9/11” FABRICATIONS:The Clinton Administration was reluctant to kill bin Laden. Even when CIA operatives inAfghanistan had bin Laden cornered “National Security Adviser Sandy Berger” refused to authorizea strike and instead “passed the buck” to CIA Director Tenet to decide whether or not to act.(Broadcast Night 1) No such episode ever occurred — nor did anything like it. There is nothing in the 9/11Commission Report to substantiate this scene or the theme. Despite overwhelming evidence that no such exchange ever took place between Berger andTenet, ABC chose to revise the still inaccurate scene in order to retain the false innuendo thatBerger and the Clinton White House were reluctant to use force to get OBL. This is false. President Clinton authorized the CIA to use lethal force and both he and National SecurityAdviser Berger were eager to get bin Laden. They looked to CIA Director Tenet for hisprofessional judgment and approved every request from him and the US military to go afterbin Laden and al Qaeda. At no time did US forces on the ground in Afghanistan have bin Laden in their sights orcornered in his compound. In August 1998, the one time the CIA believed they knew where bin Laden was or was going to be,President Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles fired at him in Afghanistan. The clearintent of the missile strike was to kill (not capture) bin Laden. Though bin Laden got away,
dozens of senior al Qaeda leaders were killed.
FACTS FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT:“Policymakers in the Clinton administration, including the President and his national security advisor,told us that the President’s intent regarding covert action against Bin Ladin was clear: he wantedhim dead.” (9/11 Report, p. 133)“President-elect Bush … asked Tenet whether the CIA could kill Bin Laden …President Bush told usTenet said … that the CIA had all the authority it needed.” (9/11 Report, p. 198-199)“ … [Tenet told the 9/11 Commission] … that if … he needed more authority, he would have come backto either President Clinton or President Bush and asked for the additional authority.” (9/11 Report, p.508-509, footnote 158)2According to the 9/11 Report: “Berger reported to President Clinton … The new memorandum [ofnotification] would allow the killing of Bin Ladin … what was envisioned was … a shootout … BinLadin … probably would be killed. The [Clinton] administration’s position was that … killing aperson who posed an imminent threat to the United States would be an act of self-defense, not anassassination … President [Clinton] approved the document … Albright, Cohen, Shelton and Reno[were notified] … A copy of the final document … was given to Tenet.” (9/11 Report, p. 132)“By the fall of 1997, the [CIA’s] Bin Ladin unit had … a plan for … Afghan tribals to capture BinLadin … In early 1998, the cabinet-level Principals Committee [led by National Security AdviserBerger] apparently gave the concept its blessing. (9/11 Report, p.110-112)“[CIA Director] Tenet told us that given the recommendation of his chief operations officers, healone had decided to “turn off ” the [Tarnak Farms] operation … He said the plan was neverpresented to the White House for a decision. The CIA’s senior management clearly did not think the
plan would work.” (9/11 Report, p. 114)
FACTS FROM 9/11 COMMISSIONERS:9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer: “[Contrary to the miniseries’ portrayal] Osama bin Laden wasnever in somebody’s sights … on page 114 of our report we say George Tenet took responsibility forpulling the plug on that particular Tarnak Farms operation.” (CNN)9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey: "… totally factually inaccurate. They didn’t have somebody on the groundwith bin Laden in their sights.” (TPMCafe.com)Senior 9/11 commission staff member: “[the scene at Tarnak Farms] didn’t happen, and frankly it’s silly." (UPI)OTHER FACTS:Former Secretary of Defense William Cohen: “I never saw or heard Sandy Berger do anything of that nature[pass on an opportunity to get bin Laden].” (CNN)Former Clinton & Bush National Coordinator for Counterterrorism Richard A. Clarke: “It didn’t happen… There were no troops in Afghanistan about to snatch bin Laden. There were no C.I.A. personnel about tosnatch bin Laden. It’s utterly invented … It’s 180 degrees from what happened … deeply flawed.” (New YorkTimes)“The [Clinton] White House wanted action [in catching terrorists] … The fact is, President Clintonapproved every snatch that … CIA, Justice, or Defense proposed … [President Clinton’s] intent wasvery clear: Kill bin Laden.” (Richard A. Clarke, Against All Enemies, p. 145 & 204).______________3“PATH TO 9/11” FABRICATION:Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the movie insinuates that President Clinton was toopreoccupied with the impeachment and the Lewinsky matter to focus on terrorism and the threat fromal Qaeda. (Broadcast Night 1) There is nothing in the 9/11 Commission Report to support this theme.FACTS FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT:“We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were genuinely concerned about the dangerposed by al Qaeda.” (9/11 Report, p. 349)“By May 1998 … clearly, President Clinton’s concern about terrorism had steadily risen.” (9/11 Report,p. 102)“President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and his national security advisor, Samuel‘Sandy’ Berger, ensured they had a special daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest updates onbin Laden’s reported location.” (9/11 Report, p. 174)“President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public statements … he called terrorism ‘the enemyof our generation.’” (9/11 Report, p. 500)[Former Counterterrorism Czar and ABC consultant Richard A. Clarke: “… I feared that the timing ofthe President’s interrogation about the [Lewinsky] scandal … would get in the way of our hittingthe al Qaeda meeting. It did not. Clinton made clear that we were to give him our best nationalsecurity advice without regard to his personal problems. ‘Do you all recommend that we strike on the20th? Fine. Do not give me political advice or personal advice about the timing. That’s my problem.Let me worry about that.’ If we thought this was the best time to hit the Afghan camps, he would orderit and take the heat …” (Richard A. Clarke, Against All Enemies, p. 186]______________“PATH TO 9/11” FABRICATION:Over the objections of CIA Director, “Secretary of State Madeleine Albright” alerts the Pakistanis inadvance of a 1998 US missile strike against bin Laden at Khost, Afghanistan. Bin Laden gets awaybefore the missile strike. (Broadcast Night 1) This scene is false and defamatory. Secretary Albright never provided the Pakistanis with anynotification of the intended missile strike whatsoever. Secretary Albright fully and unconditionally supported the missile strike against Bin Laden andnever insisted upon an advance notification to the Pakistani military. The Pentagon waited until the missiles were in the air before notifying the Pakistani military.4FACTS FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT:“Since the missiles headed for Afghanistan had had to cross Pakistan, the Vice Chairman of the JointChiefs [General Joseph Ralston] was sent to meet with Pakistan’s army chief of staff to assure himthe missiles were not coming from India. Officials in Washington speculated that one or anotherPakistani official might have sent a warning to the Taliban or Bin Ladin.” (9/11 Report, p. 117)[Former Counterterrorism Czar and ABC consultant Richard A. Clarke has speculated that the PakistaniNavy observed US naval vessels offshore preparing to launch missiles on Afghanistan. (Richard A.Clarke, Against All Enemies, p. 188).]“PATH TO 9/11” FABRICATION:After the bombing of the USS Cole “National Security Adviser Sandy Berger” appears to argueagainst a retaliatory missile strike for fear that with the election three weeks away the Republicanswill charge that military action by the Clinton Administration is part of a political strategy to help AlGore win. (Broadcast Night 2) This scene is false. The timing of the national election never factored in national securityconsiderations in the aftermath of the attack on the USS Cole. The only impediment to launching a retaliatory strike for the USS Cole attack was the lack of clearfindings on the part of the CIA and FBI of bin Laden’s role in the event. No such conclusion wasforthcoming before the end of the Clinton presidency.FACTS FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT:“[President Clinton] said he was very frustrated that he could not get a definitive enough answer to dosomething about the Cole attack … The election and change of power was not the issue, PresidentClinton added … If [the CIA or FBI] had given him a definitive answer, he said, he would have …[taken] further action against both al Qaeda and the Taliban. But he did not think it would beresponsible for a president to launch an invasion of another country just based on a “preliminaryjudgment.” “Other advisers [including Secretary of Defense William Cohen and General HughShelton] have echoed this concern.” (9/11 Report, p. 193-195)“… Deputy Director of Central Intelligence John McLaughlin explained …it was not enough for theattack to smell, look, and taste like an al Qaeda operation. To make a case, the CIA needed not just aguess but a link to someone known to be an al Qaeda operative … the CIA’s December 21, 2000briefing slide reported that “so far the CIA had no definitive answer on [the] crucial question ofoutside direction of the attack – how and by whom.” (9/11 Report, p. 192 & 195)“… Berger … recalled that the intelligence agencies had strong suspicions, but had reached “noconclusion by the time we left office that it was al Qaeda … the United States did not have evidenceabout Bin Ladin’s personal involvement in the attacks until Nashiri and Khallad were captured in2002 and 2003.” (9/11 Report, p. 193)
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Fitz!
NIX!!
Indict me!
Evening All.
Let’s see.
Tonight George W. Bush, The Decider, will appeal for “unity” from Americans.
Tomorrow his Coulterized Republican Party, lead by his closest political adviser, Karl Rove are kicking off a 45 million campaign to smear every Democrat in America as appeasers to the Nazis.
Cue the Charlie Brown music.
-GSD
The mouse was told about the right wing wacko’s.http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060925/path_to_911
OT Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 9/11/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 8 states
$2.80 plus 6 states
$2.70 plus 4 states
$2.60 plus 11 states
$2.50 plus 7 states
$2.40 plus 11 states
$2.30 plus 3 states
Average national price: $2.624, down $.059 from 9/8/06
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.284
Lowest average price: Ohio $2.327
Nymex Crude Future $65.61, down $.64 from 9/8/06
Dated Brent Spot $64.21, up $.61
WTI Cushing Spot $65.61, down $.64
Gas prices continue to fall. Oil prices check at the $65 level. The factors influencing price are:
One, no new crises (no upward pressure);
Two, the cooling US economy and falling gas prices with perhaps some market manipulation (downward pressure);
Three, the resulting increased oil supplies worldwide (downward pressure);
Four, the effect of the soon to change seasons (Wait and see mode);
Five, the continuing instability in most oil producing countries: Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela, etc., the reliability of energy suppliers like Russia, and unresolved conflicts like Israel-Palestine and Israel-Lebanon (underlying pressure keeping prices high).
Wow. I just read the post. Oh what is that word..schadenfreude. I am covered with schadenfreude.
This post is a smackdown of historic proportions.
They still think they can get away with anything they want.
A 45 million dollar smear campaign.
I hope that backfires on them to the point where
not one of them will ever be able to get elected to dog catcher again.
They even had the balls to tell every one that they’re doing it.
WTF? PT911 Executive Producer Thomas H. Kean.
Watched 9/11 Press for Truth today. It is extremely well done. I urge everyone that hasn’t watched it yet to do so.
There are many points that are well-made. As I saw it, the film is not about pointing the finger as much as it is about asking questions. You don’t need a tin-foil hat to get the points the film makes.
One key point that is made implicates Pakistan in the attack. Much of the evidence for this line of argument comes from the Indian press, who of course would have been happy to see Pakistan implicated. Nevertheless, I find the evidence offered passes the laugh test, and is even fairly impressive.
Of course it would be confusing if the Bush administration DID manage to turn Pakistan from sponsor to ally in the day or so after the attacks. I haven’t seen them do anything else that effective that doesn’t involve huge payoffs to rich people. Hmmmm.
EPU’d but so apropos:
Godfkndammerung!
The crawl on MSNBC just now: NY Times: Ned Lamont (D) wrote to Sen Joe Lieberman (D-CT) in 1998 “praising the eloquence” of Lieberman’s speech on the Lewsinsky scandal.
You can’t believe
everythinganything you read in the MSM.PT911, well whatdayaknow, F-16s scrambled within 1 minute. Right.
Hi All–I made several updates and added some links, as I was under the gun to get this post up. Make sure you refresh to see it all.
Jen Nix @
14
No need to hurry, we seem to have no problem chatting amongst ourselves. *g*
I’ve been listening to Kristen Breitweiser’s new book “Wake-Up Call – The Political Education of a 9/11 Widow as I drive to and from work the last few days. Just finished it on the way home this evening.
She describes this meeting with Kissinger. Apparently he got so flumoxed when asked about whether he had any bin Laden’s as clients that he spilled his drink and fell off the couch. The next day he resigned and blamed it on those nasty widows.
The WSJ penned an attack editorial shortly thereafter and that is when Breitweiser and the others started to learn about the right wing attack machine.
If you haven’t read the book I highly recommend it. Such a courageous woman. Such courageous women. We all owe them a heartfelt “Thank you” for all the work they have done for us all.
epu’d and still giggling!
angie says:
September 11th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Oh holy smokes– dubya loses it with his best bud Matt Lauer on KO
smokin’!
Finger in the chest and mucho falso bravado along with a leetle bit of Perot! ROTFLMAO.
angie @ 17
Yeah – just wondering how Lauer resisted the urge to slap him open-handed!
What does it mean to sit on your ass for a week – ignoring the families of those directly affected by 9/11, the Democratic Party, the American public, the Clinton administration, and the entire canon of broadcast ethics – and then say something like that? These guys deserve everything they get.
Perhaps we missed a golden opportunity at getting this thing yanked by going stronger after Steve Jobs. A concerted effort to boycott Macs and Itunes? Man, then you’d have seen some reults!
Andrew @ 16:
The Kissinger episode appears in the movie, with fewer details — but it is clear why he didn’t last long. Thank goodness for that.
angie @ 17
Lol, you just reminded me of a bumper sticker I saw the other day.
” George Bush Is A Punkass”.
two thumbs up for that one.
Another one I saw recently, ” Another Doctor Against Bush”
I went so far as to get the gentleman to roll down his window to share my appreciation.
Igor Egor is trying to cover his ass some. He let a POS go forward, and is not so sure he did the right thing.
The ball is in our court here. We’ve been handed the opportunity we need to push for reform. 9/11 is ingrained into the American psyche. Because of this, the swiftboating about the truth of what happended leading up to 9/11 makes it more personal then a swiftboating of a politican.
This is what opens the door up to allies to fight the battle we need for reform.
The Matt Lauer incident inspires another soundbite for the Democrats:
George W. Bush — The Torture President!
GSD, @#5 – how ironic: The “decider” interrupts a divisive, opportunistic piece of right-wing propaganda tonight, in order to appeal for unity–and just 8 weeks before an election where his guys might finally lose big. If I wasn’t so angry, I’d laugh.
As for Rove’s “nazi” talk–you’d think that with all the nazi skeletons floating around in certain high-level right-wing closets that they would be more careful about continually bring up that word.
Update: The Nation is reporting that Disney’s Robert Iger is “deeply troubled” about the right-wing agenda of the “Path to 9/11.” So, yank it, Bob. Yank it.
Um, he *is* The Mouse’s big cheese, right? Has he forgotten that?
Wow. I just read the post. Oh what is that word..schadenfreude. I am covered with schadenfreude.
It is too late to un-schadenfreude the bed.
So when do we start pushing for the revocation of ABC’s licenses to broadcast?
When do we start pushing congress to take away Disney’s stranglehold on copyright?
When do we start pushing to break up media monopolies?
When do we start attacking YWAM?
(feel free to add to the “to do” list hehe)
34 minutes to bamboozlement. Anyone going to watch or listen?
Lobster @ 29
I’ll wait for it to come out on DVD, I haven’t been target practicing this year yet.
GSD, at first glance my somewhat dyslexic mind somehow turned your first sentence into something where Bush was asking for forgiveness and then that his Coulterized Republican Administration was all going to resign. I could hardly breathe.
How disappointed I was when your words came into focus. LOL
I’m in the Midwest, watching “The Lies about 9/11″ on ABC right now. Not impressed so far.
Lobster @ 29
I’m stuck here running the radio station by myself while he makes the speech, so I have to listen to it. I am hoping that he’ll give me something I can use for tonight’s Late Nite post, since right now I haven’t the faintest clue what to write about.
I’ll tell you one thing, though. I’m about 9/11-ed out. We might have a post about candy and ponies for Late Nite tonight.
Kurt @ 28
We can start laying the ground work now. We also need to get the Democrats back in charge so we push them on the issues that involve federal laws.
Jennifer,
Are you looking for the C-Span Sept 11 Commission Report Results cause if you are I have Part 1. I’m pretty sure I can get a hold of Part 2.
Lemme know.
Trex, how about Princess Sparkle Pony?
Just looked on the Apple site. No sign of PT911 yet.
If/when it shows up there for free (when everything else costs money), I’m going to smash my iPod and mail it back to them.
In the event, I’ll make a video so you can watch.
GW Clusterfuck goes up against a monday night football double header. Let’s see how good his star power is.
He’s a double bagger. Intelligent teevee watchers put a bag over the teevee when he’s speaking- and one over their own heads in case the one on the teevee falls off.
The shock to one’s system of a sudden and unexpected channel change leading to an actual encounter with President Clusterfuck is too big a risk to take.
TRex @
33
Don’t you usually play classical music? Can’t you play Wagners “Sigrieds Rhine Journey and Funeral Music” in the background to the Bush blather? It’d match well ideologically …
Lobster @ 37
Lobster rocks.
Better than “Ride of the Valkeries”?
Isn’t it past Chimpy’s bedtime?
Millineryman @
24
Yeah, and then there are our allies…
rwcole @ 41
too cheery !
Thank you Jennifer! You are doing amazing work.
I think that the 9/11 World (Still) Deserves Justice.
I love your posts and your calls to action. The 9/11 Commission Report was as nonpartisan as it could’ve possibly been in the protofascist climate we have been suffocated by, but it was a whitewash and probably worse.
Thank you again.
The actress playing Condoleeza Rice doesn’t look mean enough.
9/11 was the day that we experienced several weeks carnage from the 405 all in one day. That’s about the depth of it’s significance.
The families who had losses do NOT become VIPs- they just suffered losses. The day does not become an annual holiday cause lots of people died. Most people have celebrated 9/11 quite enough thank you! No need to set off fireworks and give political speeches to honor the dead- they’re dead.
WaPo editorial group hires Bush speech writer:
http://www.editorandpublisher……1003120055
Ever mindful of the need for diversity, Fred Hiatt provides assurance:
Feel better already.
Impeachment Happens @ 35
Well, I was looking for video of the 9/11 Families’ press conference this morning. Have talked to the producers and C-Span and haven’t found it online yet. C-Span tells me they’ll be airing it again tonight at 10 pm, though. They are so tight with their online video…might be worth a few requests to get that posted on their site, or to allow FDL to post it. Can’t hurt to try.
Think Progress reported that iTunes was NOT going to be giving out the POS movie for free…
*ilson46201 @ 44
How about ‘Hall of The Mountain King’?
(Hint, Think of the biggest pile of sh*t you can imagine.)
9/11 Press for Truth is incredible. Very well done. Sticks to the main-stream timeline.
What’s great about this film is that 1. It tells us that most of the DOTS are already out there in the press. and 2. It puts the DOTS for a couple of different issues into line…they connect them! imagin that?!
Watch it for free on google video:
http://video.google.com/videop…..&hl=en
rwcole @ 38
I don’t think the preznit is going to only be on ABC…he’ll likely break into all networks…even football.
Hi, Jen!
Bet you were busy so getting this fine post ready to go that you missed a certain gem from the last thread. Come stand by me in awe an’ pleasure here for a minute (as always, thinking of writers whom you might want to work with someday, yezz?) . . .
Mary4 @ 179
jmba @ 50
a small victory but a victory for us nevertheless ! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
neurophius @ 46
She also played The Sisko’s girlfriend/wife in DS9…I’m so disappointed she signed on for this dreck.
Rudy Giuliani, STFU.
Jennifer Nix @ 53
but will football permit such interruptions?
Kurt @ 28
In the immortal words of Gus Grissom (as depicted in The Right Stuff so who knows if it’s true or just truthy): Fucken A!
I sure would like to see more info from The McClendon Group press conference today where, as Jennifer notes,
“a national speaker in the 9/11 Truth movement, Ms. Pentz will announce the upcoming International People’s Grand Jury on the Crimes of 9/11:
The Case to Indict.”
36 seconds to halftime in the first NFL game. If Clusterfuck’s going to get in a speech before the kick off- he’d better start warmin up his twisted tongue.
Whenever Bush appears on the TV or radio–I race to hit the “mute” button or change the channel.
A few days ago on Countdown, Dana Milbank compared Bush to Barney Fife, running around, rounding up and arresting all the citizens of Mayberry. But, as Keith said, there’s no Andy to come and rescue us…
Now, everytime I look at Bush, I see an evil Barney Fife twin. So, I won’t be watching Bush tonight, or any other time.
Even football? That’ll get him impeached for sure!
Hot Flash 43- Hillary’s vote on Iraq has nothing to do with taking action against Disney.
A broad coalition of Americans who demand independence and truth in media reporting is formiable entity. If it’s broad enough, then the Repugs might have a difficult time fighting it politically.
As an aside, I’m not defending Hilliary, her vote or her swaying the breeze at Ground Zero.
scarecrow @ 48
Fred Hiatt is a braindead idiot.
Can’t imagine that GW Clusterfuck would actually interrupt an NFL game to give a political speech- he’s extremely dumb- but not that KIND of dumb.
A few days ago on Countdown, Dana Milbank compared Bush to Barney Fife, running around, rounding up and arresting all the citizens of Mayberry. But, as Keith said, there’s no Andy to come and rescue us…
Funny you should mention that…
rwcole @ 65
I would not put a wager on that, rwcole.
rwcole @ 65
I would think this would be one of the things he can viscerally understand.
As much as I detest Bush’s face, voice, and soul, I am going to watch his speech tonight.
After the lead-up of the past couple of weeks, I have a feeling this could be his worst speech ever.
HotFlash @ 62
I may be wrong, but it seems like he’d use all his power to take over all airwaves tonight on the anniversary of 9/11, to get just little more propaganda out there.
TRex – I am all in favor of some kittens and ponies at late night tonight.
btw – headed back to Georgia soon, ditching this crazyfornia scene.
neuro
Well if it’s stinko- you can always watch the reruns. Hate to see you endangering your health.
*ilson46201 @
54
Hey, I didn’t get a huzzah out of that one…
Oh wait, that was harrumph
scarecrow @ 48
Damn Fred Hiatt. Independent voice and part of the Cheney White House? Horse Manure!
Here, this makes me feel better…it’s an oldie but goodie:
GSD mentioned that the shrub was a reverse King Midas in a world full of crap in the EPU.
Evening all — trying to decide whether I can stomach the speech or not this evening. I’ve had a long day of travel (am in NYC this evening)…and if I’m going to watch Bush this evening, I may have to order room service and have some chocolate on hand. *g*
Great post, Jen!
jmba @
50
Huzzah! or was that supposed to be for *ilson?
For whomever: Huzzah!
I like my iPod, after all.
rwcole @
65
This chimp just can’t change his stripes.
http://z.about.com/d/political…..leader.jpg
We’ll help you thru it, Christy!
Lemme guess, you and Jane are gonna chat over a cuppa tomorrow?
Hi Christy. I don’t have the stomach for the Bush propaganda tonight. I say go with the chocolate and read whoever wants to liveblog it.
I miss NYC.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 75
Yes, great post.
I propose the entire firedoglake community watch our President and focus our collective minds on him, and see if we can make him twitch. Just a test.
Lobster @ 76
Is that for real?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 75
OK, I must have been out to lunch.
Last I heard, Jane was going to L.A., today I hear she’s in Manhattan. Now ReddHedd is in NYC. HMMmmmmm. Something be up?
KO rips dubya in pure English.
gwclusterfuck’s goin through his warm up drills. “enunciate—-enunciate—-read them words!”
Thisis one night where I don’t want to see any Bush.
Jennifer Nix @ 70
Maybe he’ll work it so he’s the half-time program.
astralplame @ 71
astralplame! there you are! I was asking after you last night… everything OK?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 75
Since I cannot tolerate the sound of the man’s voice, it is sometimes kind of fun to hit the mute button and see what you can gather from the body language.
As for having chocolate on hand, if it were me, I would not want the taste of my favorite food to ever be associated with a “Bush experience.” Maybe brussels sprouts or beets – what the heck, I can’t stand them either, so no damage done to fine food!
GOOD HEAVENS DO I LOVE KEITH OLBERMANN!!
Keith: impeachable offensive —- conflating 911 with Iraq!!!
If Bush’s speech preempts the football game, he will be really toast with the red meat group – even more than he already is. The guy (a high school drop out) who is reroofing my house said to me today – “I don’t usually talk politics, but I just can’t stand this Bush, he doesn’t do anything right.” I think that is increasingly the view.
I can’t imagine anyone wanting to watch his drivel except that 36% and journalists.
I am speechless, Keith speaks for so many in this country and in the world.
Now on to rip ABC/Disney.
Jane and I are, indeed, meeting for a cuppa tomorrow. I took the train up today to say howdy. (Mr. ReddHedd having graciously offered to hang with The Peanut for a few days…secretly, I think he’s happy to have her all to himself without momma getting in the way. *g*)
Twisted Martini @ 85
I am SOOOOOO going to let that one pass.
I am fu@king pissed. Outraged, disgusted; I have never, in the years that he has been in office, wanted to see his face or hear his words. But people have said ‘know your ememy.’ I no longer want to know or see or hear him or anyone of his, ever. I already knew how unscrupulous he has been is and possibly will be, how surreptious and untruthful, how many deaths he has caused in Iraq alone (130,000 civilians), and I have been always against this conflict. Always. His movements are nothing to me this day, and never have been, ever. I need to check my hate at the door because it’s getting the best of me today.
Keith just said on air what we here have said for days about 911 …
scarecrow #80- I’m up for that? Don’t you think should we aim for a particular body part, since he is so generally dyskinetic?
meta #56 I’d buy that T-shirt!
KO just gave us the campaign them of the decade — “Mr. President, how dare you . . .”
They have “spun” 9/11!
Brings up the Twilight Zone (or the Outer Limits– I was a kid)!
Kill em Keith, there he’s whalin’ on ABC! The Outer Limits.
PT911 Scene between John ONeill and Colleen Rowley, portraying it as being difficult to get a FISA warrant to look in Moussaoui’ laptop. Sounds like bullshit.
LindaR @ 86
I can totally see him making a lame comment/joke about the game to burnish his folksy regular-guy cred.
KO is GOD!
meta @ 92
I think most journalists belong to that 36%.
the propoganda launcher is being primed.
My Very Republican brother told me on the phone that he boycotted the ABC/Disney fiasco. Oh. Mah. Gawd.
Millineryman @ 63
Well, maybe not directly, but I think it’s of a piece. It’s pretty clear that ‘the people’ want out of Iraq, based on polls and such. Ms C is not going there despite much whistling and foot-stamping by ordinary folks. And now there is what I hope is a noticeable boycott against Disney/ABC which could be construed as on the Clintons’ behalf, or at least of use to them… We can’t easily administer the coup de grace. She and Bill and the other principals, however, can sue for defamation. I am hoping that she and Bill will give us a hand here and swing that rodent by the tail. But I think if I held my breath waiting for it I’d just turn blue. Maybe American Airlines will do something.
Yowzer, our main brain trust’s convened in NYC tonight? Ooo, what are y’all broads a-cookin’ up for us and the unsuspecting world now, my my my . . . ?
P.S. to mod: Halp! at 54, please, sir or ma’am.
rwcole @ 106
I thought dubya had a catapult…? ya know “catapult the propaganda”…
so, winding up the catapult, I’d say…
Eli, @ #66 Thank You for that! I think I’ll watch it again when BarneyW is doin’ his speechifying…
May this country forgive you
That was PRICELESS
Olbermann totally rocks! He should run for President.
once again, Olbermann has taken my breath away with his eloquence …
“people want out of Iraq”
Not yet- a slim majority are still opposed to withdrawal.
hey everyone,
yes, yes Ian Campbell above
9/11 Press For Truth is INCREDIBLE – don’t care how much you think you know, you will come away from this film having learned something new
hell, there’s probably a way for us to all watch it together
get there and bookmark it!
after watching Press For Truth you’ll be wondering how any of them can tie their shoes!
Wow. Ten minutes of KO ripping the President of the United States, on a major cable network, just before the President of the US addresses the nation. This has never happened in our history.
“Good night and good luck.”
WaPo’s Froomkin gets some competition;
http://www.editorandpublisher……1003120055
-nevermind-
surfacing from work …
if you have not seen Olbermann’s comment tonight, watch for it on C&L – nothing comes close to what he just did …
wow … tears and cheers all at once
eeeewwww… chimpy’s on
This has been a really crappy day. Woke up from a nightmare this morning – we hadn’t caught Bin Laden and Al Queda had struck again. All day … relentless … what Bush wasted to preserve his warped ideology, reward his friends, and keep in power. So angry and sad.
Olbermann just made me feel the best I’ve felt all day. Preach it, Keith.
chimpy’s got a cold…
OT – but not much. Keith Olbermann was magnificent again tonight. I’m sure Crooks and Liars will post it, or maybe the MSNBC website.
OLBERMANN! DAMN!!!!!!!!
I am crying with goosebumps– anyone want toast so I can keep busy?
Well, Chimpy’s on MSRNC and he’s not breaking in to the football game.
13-9 ‘Skins.
Hugh @ 105
OMG, Hugh, I think you are absolutely right. My duh.
Hey OC!
I have been pretty much off-line mostly for the past week or so, pondering things. Remember that shit sandwich image? Things have got so I need to run to ground on home turf, get the h***** i*****nce straightened out, and all that kind of thing. How have things been?
Redskins 13 ~ Vikings 9
First time Ive felt anything today. Keith is our hero, our spokesman. How can we honor him?
i missed KO and i’m bummed. i went to the store to get milk for white russians. please hurry C&L
Bustednuckles @ 51
Watching that sordid fellow in the round room makes me think of Hector Berlioz’s “March to the Scaffold”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvU8IrrEYSE
snowbird42 @ 131
buy his book
Astralplame -
sorry to hear about the shit sandwich catching you… sucks! things are going ok on my end… school started last week (the little children are just a cute as ever)… and I’m adjusting! – but I’m tired ;-)
Andrew C. White @
16
Andrew, I was reading about her book yesterday. Thanks for the recommendation. It’s on my list.
Down here in GA they use the scary Nancy ads. I finally lost it by pointing out Delay and Hassert. Can’t wait until TREX weighs in.
Oh, I can’t wait for the vid of KO. He is our light.
snowbird42 @ 131
write to him and the clever folks from MSNBC who have the intelligence to keep the voices of the majority of Americans on the air.
Keith O again kicked George Bush’ ass. This time for the 9-11 families and the nation.
snowbird42 @ 131
Slow down– Keith says soccer is boring, yet he likes baseball. So, obviously he’s not all that smart.
angie @
126
You make toast, I’ll make hot chocolate.
ooo- chimpy defending his decision to take out Saddam…!
“the world is safer because saddam is no longer in power”
give it a rest you terristmaker
twolf1 @ 132
It’s on again at midnight…
Yea, and down here in Georgia we have these punk-ass democrats like John Barrow walking a fence hoping to get elected again.
rwcole @ 65
Didn’t he just have a photo-op standing on the Flag today?
Yeah he’s that dumb.
HotFlash @ 142
sounds good, you’re on!
“they will not leave us alone. they will follow us”
chimpy’s direct line to the terrists
Chimpy should NEVER EVER follow Keith Olbermann…
this president is an asshole….flat out straight up asshole
chimpy – “boogeymen! everywhere! boogeymen following you home!”
Bush started off well for about one minute, then went on to those who perpetrated 911, then began going into the blue with the CIA “questioning”/torturing suspects, then left the atmosphere is now using most of his speech ranting about Iraq. It has nothing to do with 911 but hey, that’s never stopped him before.
“the world WILL BE safer, when George Bush is no longer in power.” If he said that, I might listen, but he has nothing to say that (1) I would believe, (2) would give me anything but a headache, (3) makes any sense.
16-13 Vikes!
Yeah!
Lobster @ 76
DKos and fdl were very early on getting more people to concentrate on apple and Scholastic. No matter how the MSM and old school pols try to spin our mixed success last week, the headway we made with those two companies, along with Iger’s professed shock that he’d been duped, shows we fought this battle effectively.
Meanwhile,
General Election all 50 States:
1 month, 25 days, 21 hours, 47 minutes, and 12 seconds
‘We pray for the families of our military’
while we send them into battle 4 and 5 times, OH YEAH and cut their benefits, pay them so little most have to use WIC…but we PRAY for them
I hate him
raven @ 146
Sometimes you just have to support what you have. I live in Roswell but was thinking about taking a ride to knock on some doors.
wait wait, when is he going to invoke God. . ti’s coming
chimpy: we tore down those walls between the ag-eng-cees.
(and the levees…oops)
hahaha! chimpy citing “terrists flying from London to blow up planes and WE thwarted it!”… did they ever charge ANYONE in that plot?
Yo Raven,
What part of GA are you living?
Chimpy slipped in a new little phrase about giving our troops the legal support to do their jobs. Authorizing torture there, Georgie?
Imagine.
A President who thought that invading another country required quality information.
Thanks OC! It will all be fine, eventually – just have some sharp corners to steer for the next few weeks, I think.
My aunt was a third-grade teacher, and I went to class with her once – the children were wonderful, but I get tired just thinking about having a whole room-ful every day!
The Bush speech seems to be the same old thing he has been saying for sometime. He doesn’t even need to be live, just replay stuff from the last couple of weeks. A wasted opportunity on his part.
George: — five years after Pearl Harbor, World War Two had been over for a year …
All of the words and film dedicated to 9/11 are just insolent noise…
Osama had nothing to do with 9/11, nor Saddam..
If you want REAL justice for 9/11 you would take all the assets owed by all the members of the PNAC (that’s BILIONS folks) and distribute it to those who have suffered for their treasonous actions… 9/11 and the Iraq war. Then draw and quarter the members of PNAC in a very puplic place, and broadcast on TV and the internet..
Is that too HARSH ???
Why do you even listen? It is all lies, and it will always be that…good grief, he can’t make up those words, it’s someone else who is writing, and 9/11 was the best thing to happen to his completely unprepared administration. He can’t even pronounce most of his speeches correctly…der Shrubenfuhrer… We are so toast.
Bush’s speech is just another hackneyed rehash of his previous talking points on terra. A lot of blah blah, be afraid, they hate us for our freedom, this is the definitive struggle of the 21th century, stay the course, etc. Except for short bracketing statements at the beginning and end of the speech this had nothing to do with 911.
T- @ 163
Well, it’s not really Georgia, it’s Athens!
Pablum. Pure pablum. I had two stiff drinks, held my nose and watched it and he was just so oily. And when the hell is he going to learn to read a teleprompter.
Hello, is it safe to turn the TV on yet? I just can’t deal with the Shrub tonight, is he over?
AZ Matt @ 167
Der Shrubbenfuhrer could have been hiding out on the ranch for the last two or three years with an animatronic lookalike doing his speeches, and I doubt anybody could tell the difference. Odd that his henchman-handlers seem not to have looked into any possible correlation between patronizing tedium and approvals.
Not watching Bush tonight. Or any other night or day for that matter. Never watched or listened to any of his daddy’s syntactical gyrations and fabrications either. And every minute I haven’t, I feel just that much better. Mr. President is a bore and a boor.
UptownNYChick @ 174
Yes.
Holy shit. Anybody love blog that?
I have sat through a lot of pitiful prediential speeches, but that one took the cake.
I almost feel sorry for him.
Of course then I think about what today SHOULD mean. What it DID mean, until he hijacked it, and I get pissed.
Uptown – it’s over… I had to mute it… this is just too hard a day to listen to that nitwit…
OldCoastie @ 162
England arrested people. We’ve got nothing.
scarecrow @
48
Bush and Rover are getting the Quislings in place to foment and cheerlead for the war in Iran.
This was the same theocrat that penned the Newsweek piece a few weeks ago that was strikingly similar in tone and content to the pre-Iraq war memes.
Looks like the Washington Compost sinks further into a propagandistic morass.
From Baghdad to Teheran in 2 easy steps.
-GSD
Mojo @ 169
Harsh? Naaaah – didn’t you get the memo? It’s ok to torture EVIL people!
Anne #126 Mankind cannot live by bread alone. Gotta have some toast! Biff Rose
angie @
141
He responded to me once when I wrote him. Long ago and I was thrilled.
alittlemusicalityplease @ 173
but, it is crude oil and that’s the point. Need that black crude and the hell with the little brown heartbeats.
Toast is done!
JC & OC Thanks.
It was enough to see his ugly mug in town yesterday and today.
On a funny note, I got an email back from American Airlines saying that ABC lied and that they are considering legal action. I wrote back and encouraged them to do so.
Tom Brokaw just described the “war” as a clash of civilizations, between us and those under the influence of the mullahs and their madrasas.
So Chris asked, well, weren’t we attacked because we had 10,000 troops in their countries? And their regimes that we support are authoritarian?
Brokaw, “yes, all of those things, but “they believe that we are hell bent on destroying Islam” — wondering how “they” would conclude that?
I have to run into SF…it’s my 7th Anniversary tonight and the husband and I are having dinner in North Beach (not Nan King). My husband, Steve Leonard, was on a flight on 9/11 at the same time the WTC, Pentagon and PA flights went down. It was a scary morning, until I heard from him. Strange day for a wedding anniversary. Night all.
UptownNYChick @ 172
No. It is not safe. Read a book.
KO’s e-mail address is: countdown@msnbc.com
I can’t get over how many of y’all can stand to (a) look at and (b) listen to that guy. I haven’t been able to more than twice in 6 years, and both those times were right-at 5 years ago.
Got some strong constitutions in this crowd, we do. Mercy.
marily @
170
i beg to differ, marily!
i think they were totally prepared — not for the attack, but for what to do after the attack, which, regardless of who was responsible, the record shows they clearly wanted. they had a plan, and they used it.
just like darth cheney said this weekend: “if we had it to do over again, we’d do exactly the same thing.”
of course they would. they had a plan (pnac). this isn’t about 9/11 conspiracies, it’s about a radical, ideological policy shift being forced on america and the world.
A shout out to TeddySF for encouraging us to write to American Airlines. Let’s hope they carry their grievance forward. I’d also love a statement from Steve Jobs. This week would be nice.
EvilDrPuma @ 175
Ja, you mean der Gropenfuhrer?
George W. Bush:
“The terrorists hate us for our freedom so I am doing my best to remove that bone of contention from their talking points.”
-GSD
scarecrow @ 189
Just finished Jimmy Carter’s latest, thanks. Liked it a lot and it actually helped me talk to my father about his now ex-GOP.
Best wishes to you and your husband, Jennifer.
marily @ 180
Pretty pathetic, isn’t it? And here “Pabulum to 9-11″ reportedly tried to reinforce the belief that warrantless wiretapping and unrestricted search and seizure were the only way to catch terrorists. Is the problem that Der Shrubbenfuhreradministration is simply wrong, simply incompetent, or both?
Chimpy was on his meds tonight. He did not appear to be sociopathic.
Raven-
I spent some time in Athens back in the early nineties. Love that town.
Be sure you sign up for the roots project. There will be some muck that needs raking closer to November.
mjh @ 190
The Book…
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi…../ref=nosim
Jen Nix @ 188
I have friends that had their first date on 9/11/01 — watched TV. Now married and awaiting their first child.
Happy Anniversary. I like stories about this day with happy endings.
Jen Nix @ 188
Happy Anniversary to you and your Steve and thank you for all you do! Your posts are very special to me, Jennifer!
Ahh, toast and hot chocolate to smooth out the end of a hard day, bless y’all’s hearts.
(Even White Russians to horn in on. Whatta place.)
OT – It is all connected.
People are asking Dodd about Lamont/Lieberman during Dodd’s swing through Iowa on a preliminary presidential campaign drive-through.
Netroots Lamont supporters are everywhere.
Dodd will have to face them on his longshot run for the presidency, even in Iowa.
Dodd’s political calculus gets trickier – he may even have to do the right thing and push harder to get Lieberman out of the race before it undermines his own incipient presidential bid. I’m loving it. This is courtesy of MyDD, which provides a link to this article:
http://www.courant.com/hc-dodd…..lines-home
GSD @ 192
My goodness it’s the one thing that Bush seems to be doing.
angie @ 185
You are so right. I chose that adjective on purpose.
“WaPo editorial group hires Bush speech writer:
http://www.editorandpublisher…….jsp?vnu_c ontent_id=1003120055″
Remember not too long ago when the WP tried to can Froomkin? Go f**k yourself, Hiatt.
T- @ 198
Yep, been here since 1984. As I’ve learned to say, “I’m not from here but I got here as soon as I could”!
Siun @ 122
I second/third or fourth that. Keith rocked tonight, especially in the last 10 minutes.
I made myself watch chimpy’s speech and a few minutes of the 9/11 crockumentary. It’s too much koolaid for me. *Arghh! Phew! *
I want to make myself a t-shirt that says “I prefer Keith Olbermann’s punch to Chimpy’s koolaid anyday.”
Out and over.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 193
No, I was actually calling Bush “Der Shrubbenfuhrer” before Ah-nuld muscled his way into a political career. (The nickname was a big hit when I was in Holland, too.)
Speaking of Ah-nuld, though…shouldn’t California have had enough advance warning of the dangers of electing Austrian carpetbaggers?
UptownNYChick @ 193
You’re lucky. My dad is solid Republican, but he won’t engage me — too threatening. But I have asked how, having grown up poor in the Depression, and lived through FDR, he eventually became Republican? It’s the only way he’ll allow us to talk about politics. But only so far.
Raven, Athens was the home of BullMoose right?
C&L is working on it … soon is the word.
raven @ 206
BTW, what is the Roots Project? I’m pretty sour on getting involved with a campaign again after watch Kerry let the Swift Boat scumbags run him over because his “handlers” thought “reporting for duty” was a strategy.
p-rex @ 191
Nor did I imply a conspriracy. Of course, PNAC was in the works from the day George IV took office, and we know that already. It is a given. From which all hell from this adimistration broke loose, and more hell from Al Quaeda took place.
Be careful. I live very close to NYC.
The Nation is reporting that Disney’s Robert Iger is “deeply troubled” about the right-wing agenda of the “Path to 9/11.”
What the Hell do I care whether or not Iger is troubled? He’s still airing that trash on ABC, and I’m stilling boycotting Disney-ABC.
Yank it Bob, indeed. Yank it.
Cozumel @ 199
Yes, the book!! I will be buying one for myself and one for each of my extended family members, including the misguided Repugs.
Scarecrow:
Politics is a touchy issue with my family too. President Carter’s book got us talking about fundamentalism and then it led to Christian fundamentalism and then it led to him saying he didn’t understand these people, they weren’t Republicans he knew. he was a big supporter of Sherwood Boehlert, considered one of the most moderate Repugs in Congress. said he was the last R he could ever vote for.
C&L has KO:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..rgive-you/
Someone on an earlier thread (LHP?) mentioned the 9/11 tourists — the tragedy pornographers who have themselves photographed in front of the gaping hole where so many lives and dreams were just snipped off in mid-existance.
I thought of two things — rather random, but still they popped into my mind. The first was the beginning of Nicannor Parra’s poem, “The Viper:”
Interesting parallel: In discussing why he thinks Iraq is so important, Bush has begun to cite OBL/al-Qaeda statements that Iraq is the equivalent of WWIII. In this country, that is also the view of the far right — and you can hear it every night on CNN’s Headline channel, with Glen Beck.
A logical solution would be to put all of the right-wing nuts, and any al-Qaeda who volunteered, to duke it out while the rest of us watch — through telescopes — the battle to take place on the moon.
UptownNYChick @ 186
Thanks for reminding me — AA seems to be subtly placing blame on the USAir Portland check-in for allowing Atta et al. on board. For some more truth-telling, check out this interview with the actual USAir agent who checked Atta in.
http://www.Yankeemagazine.com
In his interview, the now-retired agent tells how much he wanted to keep Atta from getting on the plane, but that the then-current rules did not allow him to.
“Back then, it was all set up for convenience of passengers.” The best(most heart-breaking) line, after the agent refused to give Atta boarding passes for both Portland and Boston, raising Atta’s ire:
“My stomach literally turned over when Atta looked at me. I thought, ‘If this guy doesn’t look like an Arab terrorist, nobody does.’ I’ve checked in hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world, and he’s the only one who made me have that reaction. “
“It was all there,” Tuohey says. “Osama bin Laden. Hijackings. Buildings in New York City. These weren’t dots they had to connect. These were potholes. If just those words — hijackings, terrorists — had come down to us, we’d have gone to level 3 security…At level 3, I would have been required to notify security. Their bags would have been opened. What we saw would have set off suspicions: a pilot’s uniform, a video on flying jets. Airline pilots do not buy $2,400 first-class tickets. Airline pilots are the cheapest people on earth. Right there, we would have known something was wrong. This was preventable.”
Another piece of cheer for this non-holiday. This poor man is still beating himself up for having let those guys on the plane for Boston.
And, no, I didn’t watch the little man whom Garrison Keillor calls “the Current Occupant.” Can’t take him – I put on my old ’60’s music – the Byrds and Jefferson Airplane — while he talked.
Angie,
Hot chocolate’s ready, want a splach of Cdn Club in that? Smoothens out the news. Lotus? Anyone else?
JPL @ 212
Hmm, the BullMoose, I dunno. REM, B-52’s, Pylon, Widespread Panic but Bull Moose. . .
if yer ears need scrubbing out after listening to chimpy, KO is up on Crooks and Liars…
F- me runnin’. I’ve got a pot roast in the crockpot,
I give it 2 I.Q. points over Shrub.
Later.
JPL @ 212
Hmm, the BullMoose, I dunno. REM, B-52’s, Pylon, Widespread Panic but Bull Moose. . .
Raven, Very pro-Pylon fellow here….
OldCoastie @ 225
Thank goodness! I’ve had no TV for two months, which kinda makes my boycott threats idle. (Actually, that would be no cable or antenna, the TV is fine. But you get the picture!)
scarecrow @ 221
As Jane once posted and she’s right. You NEVER quote your enemies propaganda. Bush does exactly that, idiot.
He has elevated bin Laden (and al Qaeda) to a super power when he should be a stone cold dead leader of a gang of 19 thugs with box cutters. Grrr….
I just listened to KO and am still wiping tears from my eyes. How I could pay 50 dollars a month to Comcast and not get Keith is beyond me. Time to call Direct TV.
Just watched Keith too. The Bush speech writers are simply outclassed by him. Of course they are working with inferior material to start with.
HotFlash @
223
My apologies, but I think that my toaster melted the servers! Normally, I would have accepted your most kind invitation long ago!
(am on the front porch now, rocking and waving my hanky to rid the FDL mansion of the smell of burnt servers!)
This KO commentary is even better than the anti-Rummy one.
If there is a pulitzer for commentary, I nominate him.
We can jest sit a tiny spell, right now. Smell the fresh air, the change in the weather?
That’s all of our voices lifting up Mr. Keith Olbermann’s deafening boom .
Via HuffPo, Webb trails Allen 46-42, but with 4 pt. MOE, this race is virtually tied.
http://apnews.myway.com/articl…..BBHO0.html
How you like us now, Maccaca Boy?
al-Scooter @ 236
Go Webb!
Bob Iger is troubled because it was just bad television
I actually tried to watch (to judge foe myself) and the short version is that I have never seen such terrible edits and stiff scripting in my life …
Well maybe “Ghost” which I found similarly awkward…
But I don’t see this one having the questionable sex appeal of Moore and Swayze
Anyways – The dialog really did try to spoon feed the idea that we NEED illegal wiretaps (”if only we had the software”…”the NSA doesn’t have the means to process all that information”)
I found that scarier than the Clinton/Albright bashing.
Oh , and they were less kind to Tenet, who while a suck-up , never looked that silly in public…to the contrary he always impressed me as having a great deal of self-confidence.
All in all – Lamer than 24.
immanentize @ 220
I know that you are a recognized and respected commenter here and other places, but I find that offensive and inappropriate. Relationships with women and/or men are not an appropriate analogy on this day on this subject. And people have different feelings about out-of-towners coming in to see the site, and a post from last evening suggested that the hawkers had a place in the recovery of the city, for better or worse. Just a bad choice of material for this occasion. (I might add for any, but I am totally without mirth or understanding this day.)
I just wanted to say that I hate when I see Lee Hamilton’s name come up in 9.11 Commission discussions and no one mentions that Hamilton has a history. He was the _chair_ of the Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran and, hey, guess what? He decided not to investigate! Oh, no, he took the job claiming to be very serious about it, very adult, very rightgeous, and the fucker immediately turned around and closed down the investigation. Why? Well, you know, so close to Watergate it would be “bad for the country” to investigate this part of Iran-Contra.
Why, oh, why wasn’t he driven off of the Commission right at the beginning? Why does _anyone_ think he might be interested in “investigating” 9.11?
I don’t get why so many commenters here are glossing over the main point of this post.
Come on people…”9/11 Press for Truth” is AMAZING. Please check it out. The families need our support.
FREE on Google Video – the whole thing
Such wonderful postings and comments this evening. Have fun in the Big Apple, Jane and Christy! Still in tall timber country somewhere north of the Minne-apple [go, Vikings!], so just a quick comment and props to GPB #7 and Motherbear#15 from Jane’s thread.
And as for me, The Only Thing We Have to Fear, Is the Fearmongers… Bush, Chee-knee, Rove, Abu are the evil within.
Vote! The one day we all own our democracy.
Eli @
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Eli! THANK you!
hi marily, if you’re still here…
didn’t mean to make it sound like i was implying any conspiratorial talk on your part. i just find any time pnac is mentioned, the ‘tin foil hat’ accusations come.
someone else mentioned lee hamilton — yes, lee is now 0-for-4 in investigations…
Yup, Hamilton is 0-4 in investigations and _all_ of them have been hopelessly disingenious, at best. He comes on strong, acts all bipartisian, and then screws the pooch. And _all_ of the investigations are about serious spookly national security issues. Oh, and afterward, he goes around acting all concerned about the reception of the investigations. Argh. Lee Hamilton is _not_ an investigator, he has some other agenda and whatever it is doesn’t include the public good or the public’s right to know. He is, in short, a tool. Not a kindly old Congressman, not a befuddled misleaded Congressman, not a reasonable person at all.
Alos, I’d like to mention that Press for Truth is pretty good. No missiles, no explosives, no death rays, no crap–and just the most obvious holes in the 9.11 commission’s report. It is worth seeing.
Very, very interesting reading if one googles “Barbar Honegger”, pentagon
jennifer,
please be careful about anything jim marrs is involved with. his repurtation vis a vis the jfk conspiracy is not exactly stellar, despite his connection to stone’s project.
Lobster hit the nail on the head. Pakistan scares the hell out of me. Following is my post on the roots of 9/11. Will anyone ever hold Saudi Arabia accountable?
The Long & Winding Road to 9/11/2001
Much has been made about ABC’s prime time fictional mini-series “The Path to 9/11″ and how it opens with an unflattering, distorted picture of the Clinton years. In arguing for a more realistic portrayal, I heard one commentator state that by rights the show should have opened with Oliver North and the Iran-Contra Affair. That was a thought stimulating suggestion, but it is as wrong as the so called docudrama.
No, the roots of 9/11 arguably go back to the story is Abraham and his sons Ishmael and Isaac. Still, I trust we are best served by looking for the key foot paths that lead to the tragic events of September 11, 2001 in the 20th Century. [more]
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