
Arianna Huffington’s book On Becoming Fearless arrives at an interesting time. Even as people are beginning to question the maelstrom of fear-mongering that has dominated the national agenda since 9/11, so to have the authentic voices of women been making their way into the political discourse (and by authentic I mean to differentiate them from those of the putative X-chromosome bearing Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkins, whose shrill reinforcement of male-dominated narratives represent little more than a quartet of dirty little paws grubbing for their next wingnut welfare check). Arianna’s lifetime journey of self-discovery and personal evolution, as well as her acute senses of expression and observation, give her a unique vantage point from which to comment on the subject of overcoming one’s personal fears as a woman heavily engaged in the realm of politics and social change.
Arianna’s previous works have explored the lives of Maria Callas and Pablo Picasso among others, but she’s not afraid to quote Marlo Thomas:
"A man has to be Joe McCarthy to be called ruthless. All a woman has to do is put you on hold."
Anyone who does not recognize the truth in that statement need read no further, because I promise what follows will be lost on you. But as someone who shares with Arianna both the joys and frustrations of speaking from a feminine perspective in a realm that is essentially dominated by men (albeit many of whom have well-developed feminine sides), it’s always a struggle and you find yourself being judged with a completely different yardstick than your male counterparts. Pach at one point referred to the "subtle forms of misogyny" that frequently find their way into those who don’t like the things that Christy, or Taylor, or Arianna or I might say. It’s easy to see that those same critiques do not get leveled when men say the same thing. And though we might rebel against the impulse, it inevitably causes you to question yourself and your voice.
As Arianna says:
The most common response to this crisis of self is conformity: "The individual," Erich Fromm writes in Escape from Freedom, "ceases to be himself; he adopts entirely the kind of personality offered to him by cultural patterns; and he therefore becomes exactly as all others are and as they expect to be….This mechanism can be compared with the protective coloring some animals assume."
So, ironically, the woman who appears well adapted may be the one who has simply become most comfortable being governed by her fears, while the "neurotic" one is still gamely struggling to reach fearlessness.
She goes on to note:
The concept of femininity also interferes with a woman’s ability to be assertive and aggressive. We so want to be liked that we worry about alienating people, so we often try to get what we want behind the scenes while still being careful to avoid seeming manipulative and disengenuous. It’s nice to be nice, but it can be extremely draining and self-destructive when it mutes our voice, holds us back and undermines our authenticity.
It’s critical that women take on the challenge of finding their voices today more than ever, because the values that are identified with women – family, healthcare, education, communty and the like — have been sorely undermined by those who have manipulated the country with fear into a delusional and unreasonable bellicosity. The country needs to refocus on these things and seriously reprioritize, and without women who have the courage to stand up and demand attention to these matters (and men to stand with them unafraid of being called insufficiently "tuff on terror" or however they want to dismiss something as essentially feminine at the moment) the chances of having any movement on these fronts is very small.
(I’ll also say as a sidenote that the blogosphere has offered a unique place to face these fears. Writing all day every day develops your own sense of who you are and what your perspective is, it thickens your skin and lets you know whose opinion to value and whose to mistrust.)
The kind of fearlessness demanded in this modern social environment depends on establishing a sense of one’s own worth that does not rely on external approbation for its existence, and a commitment to expressing your convictions despite the fact that you know you’re just inevitably going to take heat for it. Arianna talks about a letter she got when she was running for Governor of California:
I didn’t want to intrude, but I wanted to thank you for your statements during the September 24th debate. You helped make it clear why women in particular should not vote for Schwarzenegger. While some have complained that your behavior was inappropriate, I realize that well-behaved women rarely make history. Thanks for taking on the fight.
While you might not be able to say that Arianna has never been afraid to blaze new trails and take on important challenges, this book makes clear that she has never let her own fear intimidate her out of doing so. And she has accepted these challenges with remarkable grace. One of the reasons she decided to write this book was her experience watching the pressures brought to bear on her own teenage daughters, and she wanted to inspire them to work their way through the influences that would silence them and cause them to consume themselves with self-doubt as they sought to be seen as "well-behaved."
How lucky they are to have a mother who would rather make history
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Looking forward to reading it!
Rel Coulter and Malkin being men? No thanks, we don’t claim them as our property, got enough bad specimens in the batch already.
Arianna rocks. I just thought I’d let you know to proffread ;) the sentence that begins “It’s easy to see that those same critiques..”
It’s a really good book. It brought up a lot of stuff for me. Arianna just lost her mom too, who was an important role model for her as well. It really necessitates learning to trust your own voice when someone who was that influential is no longer there to bounce things off of.
Jane 4:
I agree, it’s a wonderful book!
Arianna. She’s the one (along with a few others) with the huge brain.
As to the male-female thing? History clearly shows that it is mainly men that have messed things up. I don’t know if this indicates that men are stupider than women, but it is, I think worth noting. I mean, look who’s in charge now. Not females.
Women who speak for change upset the applecart. It’s a grand tradition; long may it continue.
I am curious about Arianna’s epiphany and what actually was the straw that broke the camel’s back and moved her from a right winger to a rational person? I am glad she has seen the light because she is articulate and bright.
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See Chicago Tom above.
please reserve this thread for comments about strong women and such.
The previous thread is fine for PT9/11 stuff…
you know, the behavior here is kind of like when men interrupt a group of women chatting to ask where the ice cream is kept …
The two most important people in my life were my Grandma and my Mother. They were progressives. Though they did not know it. These two had a clear view as to rightness (not righteousness), wrongness, fairness and justness. And thus I feel no compunction or need to say they were very, very smart. I miss ‘em.
I really like Arianna. She is strong and opinionated but so charming and worldly too. I loved her appearance with Stephen Colbert on the Colbert Report. She seems completely comfortable with who she is – and that is part of what makes her such a strong and articulate voice for our side. We need stronger spokespeople for liberal and democratic causes like her. Now, if we could only get her on TV more instead of weak kneed ‘moderates’ like Alan Colmes and Juan Williams.
*ilson46201 @
11
I love you *ilson.
For years I have worked with powerful Black political women. Issues of sexism and racism constantly have to be considered and dealt with. I have long found that serious Black women are the nicest group of people – in addition to being effective, they are usually quite sensitive to others personal issues.
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The ice cream is behind the frozen pot roast.
I’m hoping Arianna runs again for some office or another. We really need her here in Cali!
Thanks to you, Jane, for having “Fearless” Arianna’s book here today. As a one-time married woman who has made it on her own since the divorce some, oh, 27 (!) years ago, becoming fearless without the strident label on it has been a continual uphill battle for me. This blog exploring these aspects and so many, many others have been a true inspiration. Thanks to you both!
Women and men of all ages can respond positively to the fearlessness of women as individuals who choose to face up to the difficulties of thinking differently in society entrenched in an outmoded paradigm. As women, we identify with gender based discrimination because it affects us whether we stand up to power or not. Hail Arianna and other women and men who can help to lead all of us from the wilderness of much of contemporary behaviour into a new way of relating with one another and our fragile environment.
Aurona @
18
Thanks, Aurona. Much of Arianna’s book is informed by her experience raising two girls alone after her divorce. She handles the challenges in her life with extreme grace and I consider her one of my most profound role models.
On the subject of fearless women: Kristen Breitweiser is on MSNBC tonight. And I think I can pin down now just what angered me so much about A** C**l**r’s attack on the Jersey Girls: it was the intimation that they should have kept quiet from someone who has never, ever truly spoken from a position of vulnerability.
hmmm just Thursday I was at my therapist appt (going back to school at 51 makes you crazy)and I said- Ok time to deal with FEAR.
will ask for book for winter holiday of you choice celebration…
brownandserve @ 3
Is that you kettle? :) j/k! thanks for the chuckle.
I agree Jane, discussing Ariannna’s book is perfect timing for us all. It is a well known fact many of us middle aged women who hang out here at FDL do it precisely because of the strong and smart feminine presence, not to mention the excellent writing. This also is reminding me to work on a section of woman blogger links at my own blog.
I suspect the royalties from Arianna’s books were supplemented by a most generous alimony to ease the raising of the children. Needed resources that could be purchased were available to Arianna. I am not trying to put down her skills but not all women in her predicament were lucky enough to have such assistance…
Jane:
Among the “and the like” is also an opposition to unjust wars. The neocons, draft dodgers and cowards as they are, wanted to prove their masculinity by starting a war of choice. It’s time that men and women who believe in feminine values put an end to it.
I love the way Arianna knows to use her power and her beauty and is not afraid of either. I saw her up close at YearlyKos and was charmed by the way she held court. I had never seen anything like it.
I find that many men find me intimidating just for saying the most straight-forward things. It reminds me that years of living on my own has given me a sense of freedom that I enjoy thoroughly. But I am amazed that I can say something with no emotional punch at all – like, “No, I don’t think that’s the way to do it” and some men will think I’m being pushy. Just makes me shake my head. I have to remind myself that they would either not notice that with a man or would admire his confidence.
Arianna lucky? Hummmm.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 28
as I recall, half of divorced women find their exes default on child support …
Thank you Jane for this post. I am very much an admirer of Arianna Huffington. I love her absolute fearlessness when looking into the camera or the eyes of the interviewer while speaking her mind.
You know, growing up and to this day all of us “children”, my father and other members of our family naturally gather ’round my mother because she is a rock, she is a teacher, she nurtures, she empowers, and she loves unconditionally. She is an incredibly strong woman with a touch that can cure anything in the whole wide world– from fever, aches, indecision, fear, emotional pain and adolescent rage (yes, I still suffer from it at times!)
She is a pioneer among women with an incredible appetite for adventure and an acceptance of all people– there’s not an iota of racism, classism, or anything negative in her bones. I can only try to aspire to be like the lady she is.
My mother also instilled in me a sense of justice. She has seen war, lamentable poverty, disease and the worst that our human existence has to offer and has an abiding sense of fairness coupled with hope.
I apologize in advance as I have not yet read the book. But I’m really stuck on this quote from above. It’s pretty profound. In some ways, being governed by fears is what allows us to navigate the male world. It keeps us in service to those men who seem fearless. As we grow into our own fearlessness, in whatever way and on whatever path, we are seen as neurotic, as if the quest for freedom itself is an ungainly experience best left for the male kingdom. Since I vascilate between fear and fearlessness, depending on which risks I accept and what self-imposed goals I want to accomplish, this is an important point to weigh.
Arianna stood up to the Boy’s Club quite well when she ran for Governor. I really marvelled at the way she spoke up during debates to quell the chauvinism and assumptions that were made about her.
Kathy @
23
See also: Klinefelter’s Syndrome, or XXY chromosomes
*ilson46201 @ 29
Yes. I know that. But I do not consider anyone from a dysfunctional background (in this case, a very, I would imagine, horrendous and unbelievably hurtful marriage) to be lucky.
Somewhat OT but a good time to help another smart, strong XX and throw a few bucks into the Marcy Wheeler book fund.
Steve
angie @ 29
I like it.
You can always count on Jane Hamsher to come up with a great phrase or nickname. I think “wingnut welfare check” should become part of the liberal vernacular when referring to shrillery.
Looking forward to reading this. As an only (female) child of a divorced mother I have experience of strong women! (Even our family doctor was a woman, not all that common in 1950.) Is that why some men think I’m pushy and opinionated??!! (However, the ones who don’t are some of my dearest and greatest friends.)
Steve @ 33
Amen to that. The Plame panel at YKos was a shining example of strong, smart women, between Christy, Jane, and Marcy. Which is all the more fitting since Valerie Plame Wilson is clearly one herself.
It’s also worth noting, on the subject of fearlessness and finding one’s voice, that this blog is different from many others in how active and involved Jane/Christy are — instead of just writing passively about news stories, they make phone calls to participants, lead caravans to Connecticut, and so on. Fearlessness is a big part of what makes FDL what it is.
I never got the whole macho thing with men. I grew up around the urban macho Italian role. The way they would dismiss women astounded me from a young age. I knew it wouldn’t serve as a role model becuase it was just wrong.
As I got older, and I realized I was gay, and the sexual dynamic was removed from any relationship with women, I felt lucky that I have close relationships with woman as human beings. I learned the femine perspective offered levels of thought and insight that I could learn from.
Now as I watch my 16 year old niece become a woman, I encourgae her to be strong, and to be the person she wants to be.
There’s an old adage that says: “There are only two choices in life, Love or Fear.”
I choose Love. Fear is the absense of Love and light. We have to remember that for thousands of centuries all names, lands, assets, and basic political and religious power were handed down through the mothers.
It has been greed, the true root of evil, that has caused the male half to become so unbalanced as to overtake and horde everything while self proclaiming their misbegotten thoughts of superiority. In the spiritual realms this belief in superiority is totally a false assumption of reality. Our greatest karmic lesson is to understand the true spirit or essence of the balance and wisdom of Yin/Yang, equality and mutual respect.
So, when are we going to once again fearlessly press for the Equal Rights Amendment to be passed? It should be brought up strongly and relentlessly to be on the ballot in all 50 states for 2008.
“The tragedy of Love is indifference.”
– W.S. Maugham ‘The Trembling of a Leaf’ 1921
Did somebody mention ice cream?
Funny (not really) how the first thoughts in my mind like others here went straight to Mom and my Dads Mama. Very different women who were responsible for rearing this pup more than any other family members. Grandmother chose divorce in the late forties and with her mother raised her three kids. Though I don’t know much about her early years I think it hardened her in unfortunate ways. Mother wore an ERA t-shirt to threads while working in support roles of very powerful men who never gave her a chance for higher positions. I think she would have both made a lot of money for them and toppled many middle men in the process and of course that just was not going to be allowed. She is brilliant, fierce, tireless, and beautiful woman who consciously put her entire being into finding that balance. She is a uncompromising crusader for woman’s rights, a fair shake for anyone, helped aids patients and others very early on. She found her spiritual place and is a wonderful Minister among other things.
Entering the corporate world in the early eighties and working with women was an eye opener. To this day the way ladies brutally treated each other is fresh in my mind. I sincerely hope that is changing. No support should be blind nor should insecurities lead blindly to holding everyone from fulfilling their potential. When women realize their potential and finally demand it we certainly will all be better off. I hear/read some of what I am trying to utter quickly and inarticulately in the warm up for Hillary and her likely run for Presidency. No she is not my choice (Fiengold is) but look at some of the positions she feels she must take for appearance of strength. These positions are not indicative of her true nature, I have been around her for over thirty years so of this I am certain. She, Bill and others are reading the tea leaves incorrectly (imo) but in a logical way that I understand. I hope women will reevaluate their participation in destructive criticism that undermines the value of strong women in leadership over the next few years. (While they support Fiengold as a clear choice). *s*
This subject is near and dear to me. I don’t know much about Ms Huffington but understand the path so very well. Thankfully she is pushng for her daughters and our country to keep this up front and centered in our minds.
njr @ 32
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Whichever physical or genetic configuration one considers, the use of transsexuals as an insult is unseemly in a post dedicated to exploring overcoming oppression and the lingering effects of stereotypes.
Indeed – such language (calling me a man or not really a woman) was directed at me when I’ve been refused employment, when I’ve been assaulted and when I’ve been shot at.
That trope has been directed at so many woman – that she isn’t really a woman – at lesbians, feminists and of course we woman with a history of transsexualism. We just have the unenviable position of being on the receiving end of such language from progressives far more often than one would expect.
*ilson46201 @ 24
Suspect all you want, if you want. My mother was awarded alimony and child support and never saw a dime. Just because an award is made by the court it doesn’t mean that mom or the child saw a penny. The best thing about my strong mother is that I never knew until I was a junior in high school and started going to a “fancy, tony private school” that we were “poor.” I knew other people had more “stuff,” but we never really valued “stuff” over enjoying each other and reading good books and going to the park and…and…and… There were too many “ands” to focus on “stuff.” Bless her. She’s been gone for 28 years, and I still miss her.
Jane says,
I view this as much a challenge to/for men, perhaps more so, as it is a challenge to/for women. There is no intrinsic reason why the “values” you cite should be exclusively or even primarily associated with women; they should, rather be associated with being decent humans. And I could not agree more with where you take this point — on the need to find something other than a belligerent and warlike option for dealing with the issues of our time.
The problem is both in defining which issues are important — why is educating our kids and providing health care not as important as buying armor for SUVs? — and also in finding alternative solutions to the issues of war and peace. In yesterday’s speech, Kerry found it necessary to sound as bellicose as Cheney — we have to focus on finding and killing OBL. Well, exactly why is that true? I thought the point was to find and apprehend, and bring to justice, those who commit crimes, even those who commit mass murders. And why are these people our enemy, and how did they get to be our enemy, and which of these other “feminine” (no human) issues did we neglect to make them so? When Kerry gave his speech, many people cheered several of his lines, but this line produced as many groans as cheers — yet that is not heard in today’s political discussion.
So there is a whole range of discourse that is still not being heard, not even being spoken in some cases, and indeed not even safe to utter in most parts of our country, even here in so-called “liberal” Boston. Our political discourse is fundamentally one sided, waiting for the other half to show up.
And every time the Jane Hamshers and Christy Hardin Smiths and Taylor Marshes and yes, Arianna Huffingtons raise those voices, it is important and needs to be encouraged and celebrated. Teach your children well.
I’m genuinely moved to have been quoted. But Arianna’s work has ever been outstanding, as has yours, Jane.
I really like Mme. Huffington’s blog.
I am crazy about Redd and Jane’s pup pound.
I miss the brassiness of Golda Meir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golda_Meir
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Also, (at the risk of a wrist slap) this is too good to not post;
“They’ve trotted that dog out for the last three elections – and it’s got mange all over it.” ~ Bill Clinton
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Yeah Roger Federer!
I can’t wait to read Arianna’s book. I have toyed with this idea for so long….and maybe she would be the one to pull it off. She could hostess A Talk Show that addresses Real Women’s Issues….and that means NO DIET nor BEAUTY TIPS ALLOWED!
I have longed for something like this. Of course, given media ownership, who would allow such a subversive show on the air? But wouldn’t it be grand? Discussions of how to end war. The Patriarchy that hovers about us all the time. Political roadblocks to achieving a just society.
I would love to work on something like this.
slade @ 48
Why isn’t it on Oxygen or ABC right now?
The most common response to this crisis of self is conformity: “The individual,” Erich Fromm writes in Escape from Freedom, “ceases to be himself; he adopts entirely the kind of personality offered to him by cultural patterns; and he therefore becomes exactly as all others are and as they expect to be….This mechanism can be compared with the protective coloring some animals assume.”
This is something that will never cease to baffle me about gay men. Why do so many of us cave in to the pressure to adopt one of the Six Acceptible Personality Types for gay men? It has consistently driven me away from large groups of my own kind. It has always seemed to me to be easier to honor your own unique qualities, certainly less confusing.
In my life, however, this has led to some fairly serious social sanctioning from the men and women I call Queer Normals.
I know that *ilson and Teddy know what I’m talking about.
It is amazing to me how plain Arianna looked when she was a rethug. And how beautiful she has become since she changed sides. Beauty and intelligence. Two atributes I admire in women.
As to developing a femmiune side. I got custody of my kids when they were 4,5,7,&8.(3 boys and 1 tomboy). I was a single parent before that term was in use. Learning to sew hems,being the only guy at mother/daughter gatherings will help you devlope that quickly.
I love Jane and Christy and all the strong wamen at FDL. Rock on ladies.
And I ordered the book yesterday.
TRex @ 49
Watchoo talkin ’bout, *ilson?
Sorry, couldn’t resist. Great thread, please carry on, women!
Part of I think creates this kind of personality truncation that Fromm is talking about is that women and gay men by extension are taught that confrontation is bad, solitude is Death, and there’s nothing worse than being The Weird Kid on the Playground. We’re taught to be pleasers of people and to avoid awkwardness and confrontation at all costs.
All I know is that every attempt I have ever made to make myself more like other people has ended in disaster.
I am a man who respects assertive women and I correct those who don’t. Its not a difficult thing to do, when facts are on one’s side. I refuse to accept or tolerate male chauvinism because it is bulls**t.
What men do to women is child’s play next to what women do to each other.
And since TRex reminded me, gay bashing. I hate that too. I fully support gay rights including gay marriage and I am as straight as patriotboy.
TRex@48&49 OT,but I am ignorant of what you speak. Six types? Queer Normals? Short explain or ref please.
Steve
Guys, let’s be sure to avoid turning a conversation about women’s voices into a gay men’s conversation. Yes, freedom from the shackles of gender norms cuts both ways, but in my view, this is a thread about honoring, finding and creating space for womens’ voices. I mean no offense by this.
thank you, Oklahoma kiddo, I was away doing my nurturing thing– making escarole soup. LOL.
I think fearlessness also means being able to stand up for oneself as fiercely as one stands up for others and for one’s beliefs. That is a personal goal and something I still have to learn from my mother ;)
Always something to learn… makes an interesting journey.
I’m stopping by the bookstore tomorrow for a school order that has arrived; Arianna is now added to the list for pickup.
“While some have complained that your behavior was inappropriate” or phrases like that have sounded a sonar-type PING in my head since I was thirteen, lo these many years ago. I’m looking for ways to have others (men and women) take time to think why they’ve decided a woman’s behavior is inappropriate.
And *ilson, that “Where is the ice cream?” scenario is perfect.
TRex @
54
Well I do agree that when cows like Ole 60 Grit try to dicipline the girls back into place it is exceptionally irritating.
Don’t like it much better when they hang out here in the comments section, wagging scolding fingers and telling us to “behave.” Really, the Houseguests From Hell.
Steve @ 56
Gosh, Steve, that would be the subject of its own post. Queer Normals are the people who are living, breathing stereotypes. It comforts them to be as mainstream as possible, and they work actively against gay people who aren’t mainstream.
The Six Types is something I made up on the fly. It would take some explication. The thing is you find that a lot of Queer Normals are people who work well with big labels. “Businessman”, “Preppie”, “Cowboy”, “Jock”, “Drag Queen”. It’s like everyone has to fit neatly into a box or people don’t know what to make of you.
My parnter and I just got back from a visit with three grandgirls and my partner’s 90 year old mom. Teaching Women’s Studies has been my life work — through changing times. I witnessed how whenever we stood up and spoke out we were labelled and dismissed — “bra burning/angry” immediately discredited us women’s movement feminists back in the day. The media had a good time with us and so how could we be taken seriously? What younger women were even willing to claim to be feminists?
These two visits have made it very personal again. I am very grateful for this discussion and for Arianna’s book. I wonder why the discussion seems to be a bit less lively than prior ones. The topic is so important!
My partner’s 90 year old mom – was beautiful and married to a famous person and had her voiced silenced for years until The Famous Man died and then she started reclaiming it. And it is great that she has lived 30 years without him. Having been beautiful all her life, appearance and being valued for appearance rather than self and voice is something that has always been an issue for her. And she has noticed, as have I and I suspect any woman over 50, how invisible women become as they age… while men just become more powerful.
Holding on to honesty and integrity and one’s own inner truth — something I watched my 18 year old grand girl struggle with. She lost her voice in those teenage years (I’m about to order Arianna’s book for her) after a classmate “spread a rumor” about her in the 10th grade — I’m not sure what the rumor was- suspect it was that she’s a lesbian — so she has been about proving she’s not ( despite her love and admiration for her two lesbian grannies). Anyway it was our great joy on this visit with her, as she is about to head off for college, to see her growing strong again (she was the most out there curious smart little kid so we grannies have had a hard time with these teenage years of hers.) Meanwhile her two younger sisters are no way out of the woods – appearance seems to be everything for them at this time — and they are too young to read Arianna’s book but perhaps if the eldest reads it and continues to find her voice and speak her mind, she will be a good model.
So much depends upon women’s ways of knowing (there is a great book by that title) and women’s ethic of care (Carol Gilligan’s life work) permeating a society.
Don’t like it much better when they hang out here in the comments section, wagging scolding fingers and telling us to “behave.” Really, the Houseguests From Hell.
Or writing letters to Christy asking her to have us taken off the team. Ahem.
Sorry to go all gay on you guys. I just feel sometimes that homophobia and sexism are the same urge fired at different targets.
angie @ 58
I am working on that very thing…. Need to be ready to take notes whenever anyone decides to tangle with Jane!
Beauty is another issue that is somehow connected…. Arianna and the ladies of the lake are so lovely but I almost cringe when their beauty is mentioned.
When I hear the the macho thing, I recall “Rosie the Riveter”.
The beauty thing cuts in weird ways. All the ankers on TV today could say about Maria Sharipova’s US OPen win was to discuss how “photogenic” she is. Nothing about her tennigs game. WTF?
I’m confused by the conflation of “fearlessness” with “ruthlessness” and “strength.”
Fearlessness might be about kindness. Or gentleness. You just never know. Depends on the situation, I’d say.
It might be more fearless, for example, to choose to be soft.
TRex @ 53
The courage of being who you are is the most important and transformative thing any of us can do. You can have no real sucesses, no real friendships and no real relationships without this honesty. And no one can change how society treats those of us who are different until those of us who are refuse to be be complicit with our erasure from the public sphere.
“America has believed that in differentiation, not in uniformity, lies the path of progress.”
Louis D. Brandeis
This is a book I will read. I could say a whole lot about the topic from personal experience, but won’t because if I get going, it might be hard to stop. Let’s just say that women in academic science get shit on particularly badly, in my view! Not specific to science, one of my “favorites”- you’re not being a team player.
TRex @ 63
I think you are absolutely correct. Male Homophobes are, more often than not, also sexists (male chauvinists) and visa versa.
Personally, I think fearlessness is an awfully high standard to attain. I have a lot of regard for people who, in spite of fears and assorted neuroses, keep on keeping on. I’m not fearless, and I never will be. But I am brave.
Pachacutec @ 66
Well, gosh, women’s tennis isn’t as “good” as men’s tennis. It’s not all 140 mile serves all the time. And it’s only 2 sets. I mean, REALLY, are they playing the same game? Hmmph…
Well, they just named the whole Tennis Center after Billie Jean King who, as we may recall, beat the knickers off Bobby Riggs. {snickering, as she goes off to polish one of her mother’s tennis trophies from the Gracie Park Tennis Club in New York…}
hackworth @ 70
Well, I believe that homophobia, ultimately, is sexism. The belief that genders should behave a certain way, whether socially, sexually, professionally, or psychologically, to me, is sexism.
I could hang around and talk about this all night, but I have to go to a meeting at 8:30 and then write a late nite post, so, I’ll see you all later.
Ta!
Homophobia: you gay guys disrupt the system by being willing to access some of that part of the world defined as belonging to women — nothing worse than a man giving up his male privilege “voluntarily”. That is really a frightening thing. Women who “act like men”/”want to be men” – not so bad, because of course why wouldn’t women want to be like men –penis=power and “that’s how it should be, right?” Think about all the various forms of insults used for gay men –”like a woman” would sum them up. So I think sexism underlies homophobia and extreme homophobia/anti-gay marriage/protection of the family and so on is really all about keeping power with the penis.
How about a Queer Normal Late Nite thread?
With a general discussion of all personal identity issues, that fall outside the whitebread suburban norms . . .
Why Arianna’s book is on the Book Salon List, and Fascinating Womanhood, by Helen B. Andelin (published 1963) is not hehe…
Do’s and Don’ts per Helen:
Do:
Don’t:
Being fearless is clearly superior to being June Cleaver :)
I’m not gay and my boyfriend is. He’s not *bi* either. And He’s my best most trusted male friend.
Howdy All:
Am glad to be a part of this thread. I love Arianna. Have for a long time ever since I read a description of her second birth in Vanity Fair on the flight home to my dying mother’s bedside.
I can boil my life down to a moment in Herald Square in 1988. I was maid of honor for my best friend from college’s first wedding (obviously didn’t know it at the time). We had gone to Macy’s to pick up a rather fabulous vacuum cleaner that had been on her registry and that she had been given the money to buy.
It was large and my friend slight. I am an upstate New York Farm Girl, ’nuff said. We were exiting the store and trying to get a cab at rush hour. I managed to commondere my friend and the vacuum cleaner into the fray and had got a cab to notice us. I was just about to open the door when I was body checked by a Wall Street Type of Man. As he sneered at me and started to crawl in I body checked him backed with the vacuum cleaner in one hand and my petite friend’s hand in the other. The look on his face when I displaced him from MY cab was priceless. “You ought to be ashamed” he said. “I’m not.” I said and took the cab that was rightfuly mine. End of story.
I often channel that moment when I am faced with the challenges of the world we live in today.
I deeply appreciate the thread and will only allow it to make me stronger in the coming days when the backlash continues amoung friends who thing I spend too much time on the blogs and not enough time on my life.
This is my life.
Fear is a complex thing, and it’s hard, sometimes, to put your finger on where it comes from or why we feel it.
When you are a mother, as I am, it isn’t so much fear that drives you, but the awesome sense of being responsible for a life other than your own, and knowing that the choices and decisions you make can and do affect those lives. We tend to subjugate our own needs to those of our children, because, suddenly, doing things for ourselves just seems so selfish. We forget that sometimes doing things for ourselves makes us better parents. And of course, there’s the old question about what do do you do if you are traveling on a plane when the oxygen masks drop – do you put one on your child first, or yourself? The answer is that you put it on yourself first, because if you don’t save yourself, you cannot save your child.
As my chldren have grown and I have gotten older, I find myself less fearful about a lot of things. This may sound way too simplistic, but I have learned to say “no.” I’ve learned that, at work, I can set boundaries – I can say I’m too busy to take on another project. I cannot do it all, and the sooner people understand and accept that, the better off we all are.
Getting older, and losing people who are important to you teaches you that if there are things you want to do, things you want or need to say, that you ought to do them, now, while you can.
Not that I am any kind of trailblazer, but I sometimes would tell myself that if I could give birth, there really wasn’t anything I could not do.
I am lucky to still have my mother, but our roles are changing, and I have gradually become more of a mother to my mother, while still being a daughter. It’s a strange transition, and there are times when I am saddened by the change – which means we have to work harder to maintain the more traditional mother-daughter thing.
We really should be ruling the world, you know…
Civilization was created by Matriarchal societies, that were later conquered by warlike Patriarchies. (The Indus River Dravidian culture predates the Sumerian; it lasted until the Aryan conquest of India.)
Matriarchies differ from Patriarchies, in that they value all members equally — Patriarchies are hierarchical; they place the highest value on high status men, and the lowest value on women and children.
Florida mom- Like that story. Those moments that completely distill things don’t come all that often (for me anyway), but when they do, they are just right for a taste of power. (power- if you see what I mean).
In the last corporate position I had, there was inititative that focused on the women in the firm. It was for adavancement, networking and used as a recruiting tool. The first year they focused on establishing a network within the office with events for them to get to know each other.
The second year the leadership decided it was time to turn the attention to women helping women. The first order of business was to buy a heifer for a family. I was inspired by that. I had no idea that there was an organization that focused on that, and how helpful this would be a rural family.
It was amazing to hear the hushed comments from some of the guys about cows for cows. I explained to one group the purpose was so a mother could have milk for her children. The had nothing to say after that.
Then this group adopted a villiage in Africa. A lot of the women in this village were HIV positive. They made this beautiful jewerly from recycled paper, sold it, and this was the way they paid for their AIDS medicine.
I think the actions that these woman took demonstartes the priorities that woman focus on.
WARNING – lengthy comment.
Reading scarecrow’s comments above regarding the defining of issues reminded me of a significant factor for women. One of the biggest (if not THE biggest) challenges for women is being heard — not because they might not have found their authentic voice, or because they can’t get a venue.
It’s because the people that need to hear them the most cannot do so; to them they are invisible.
Ditto the experience of women here; for quite some time I struggled in a “non-traditional career path”, where women as professionals and role models were few and far between, and where women were often treated like detritus unless they looked and acted like a man. Even switching career paths provided no relief; I moved from engineering to business, and found women were not breaking through the glass ceiling for similar reasons. The whole mess stank and still stinks, three decades after I first entered the workforce. (Don’t even start with me about pay equity. Grrr…)
After a serendipitous downsizing, I had the time to do a LOT of reading, concentrating on a favorite topic — human consciousness. In doing so I tripped upon a book that utterly and completely cracked open my mind, reset my understanding of relations between men and women. No, not that dreadfully simplistic “Men are from Mars” tripe, but a book that revealed an underlying truth.
Humans progress through a predictable series of levels in consciousness as they mature, outlined by a number of psychological theories from Puget to Graves. A critical mass of healthy adult humans tend to gravitate towards two states: affiliative and achievement. Not unsurprisingly, there is a gender bias towards these two states (bound up in nature-nurture, biochemistry, hardware-software), with a critical mass of women tending towards affiliative and a similar critical mass of men tending towards achievement. (Keep in mind that all consciousness is flexible; we can regress or transcend depending on conditions. Humans can flex between the parallel affiliative and achievement states, or regress to a state of conformity, or rise above to authentic or transcendant states.)
Persons in the affiliative state place value on connections and relationships, seek harmony between nodal points in their social network. Achievement-based persons focus on recognition, see life as a zero-sum game, seek personal status above others.
Sound like people you know? For me it was a thunderclap, grokking this; it explains why many of the men I’ve known or worked with could remember the yardage and par of a hole they played 25 years ago on an obscure golf course, but not remember their children’s birthdates. It also explained why women who were able to encourage their subordinates to sustained performance weren’t as likely to get ahead; the value of relationships that lead to the performance level could not be SEEN by male managers, couldn’t be measured tangibly as an achievement. This is why most women still struggle with the glass ceiling in the corporate world and even in technology and science; they cannot be SEEN by measurements that achievement-based persons use, any more than an overwhelming number of us can understand or SEE a transcendant state of consciousness. If reality is defined as the experience of one’s state of consciousness, and a critical mass of us live in different states, we are blind to each other save for where we intersect each others’ reality. Men are part of the critical mass of women’s social network in terms of consciousness; women are part of a critical mass of men’s achievements in terms of consciousness — and look how different those intersections are when spelled out in simple terms.
What differentiates both Jane and Christy is that they ACHIEVE, in quantifiable ways that are visible, tangible, measurable to achievement-based people (read: men). They write like achievement-based people, too, powerfully, with action-oriented terminology. How can those in achievement-based consciousness miss them?
They have become VISIBLE, as has Arianna.
Our task, as women, is to become as visible in order to be heard. Men’s task is to be more open to achievement that is not framed by their existing reality, in order to see and hear us. But we cannot lead that horse to water; we have to meet more than half-way and entice the horse to drink.
This is an answer to scarecrow’s question, “why is educating our kids and providing health care not as important as buying armor for SUVs”; women must frame the question and the answer in language achievement-based people will SEE, a frame that punctuates their reality.
My answer to scarecrow’s question, in the frame of the achievement-based consciousness: educating our children is an issue of national security. We cannot win asymmetrical warfare, in which the armaments are economic and political; knowledge is a weapon of mass destruction that we must claim for our nation and our future.
I suspect that Jane, Christy, Arianna and other similarly “armed” women — new Amazons for a new age — would use similarly powerful frames to punctuate more than consciousness.
Valley Girl @ 80
I do and that’s why something that happened nearly 20 years ago still shapes me. More so then VBAC-ing a 10lb 3 oz baby girl w/out drugs. That was cool, but the vacuum cleaner story is what made me the woman who could push that kid out with tears and the ability to stay in control of the delivery room. I had it my way and they shuttled me off to a broom closet the next morning to recover with my babe and husband in tow because we showed up with written birth plan that we demanded be followed.
Go Arianna. You rock. Am asking for your book for Michaelmas.
rudy, your words on your partner’s mom being silenced made me think of my own mom. She was silenced into alternate routes–one of which she named “connive and conquer.” I’ve always hated the sound of it, but it was one of the ways she coped.
But when it was important to her, she refused to be silent. She was fired from a Head Start job and had a valid wrongful termination case. Dad said no to a lawyer. Mom started writing letters. The letter to President Nixon got her rehired with back pay. Afterwards, I watched my dad withdraw from conversations about her success and was angry with him for (1) not encouraging or helping her in the first place and (2) putting a damper on praise she received.
I wonder how many men find themselves in such situations because they expected women in their lives to be silenced?
Millineryman- always enjoy your comments here. If I understand your point, it is that women often focus on laudable social goals- and of course, that is a good thing. However, in some ways saying “the priorities that woman focus on” is unfortunate stereotyping, tho I know you meant this in the nicest of ways. From my view, women who don’t fit this stereotype- idiosyncratic individualist, have the roughest time of all.
I liked Hillary better when she was early Rodham-Clinton and ferocious. She gave that up to step back for Bill and to please his public and has been ostracized for that before their marriage and after. I heard her speak years ago at the women’s forum in China and she was terrific, and I thought at the time she would not have dared give that speech here. I believe in many ways she would have been a more effective president than Bill, although not as well liked, but now her true spirit seems in eclipse to meet our demands of the day for women. Laura Bush is the model and she has done nothing constructive in her years in the White House except lose two dress sizes.
We have such few male leaders, we should be welcoming those in the female ranks where we find them, warts and all, the same way we cheer on flawed men.
ck@74..an excellent idea..someone earlier asked why so little activity on this thread. For me, I have re-read Jane’s post several times and the comments several times and I am confused by the topic and by where “it” is all going. From my prospective, phenotypic women have made the most progress of all “repressed” groups in our county. When I was in med school in the 60’s, 10% of my class was female (about average) and now the majority of med school grads were women. The same trend for undergrad and law schools. The question will be: as these women move up and through the previously male dominated social structure,will there be a real change or is male/female gender not a huge factor in how things are done to make a buck or to get ahead.
I am not holding my breath that things will be much different.
Steve — you pointed to a major problem that needs to be addressed.
Why is it that women have constituted more than 50% of college students for nearly two decades, ostensibly more than 50% of the pipeline for management, but women as CEO’s or members of the Board of Directors are still in the single digits? Or a skant 13% of the Senate?
Something is very, VERY broken here, and it may be the reason why we have the kind of government we have today.
Steve- interesting question. In science there’s still the “pipeline” issue- women simply aren’t making to the highest levels of the male dominated social structure. And, from my personal experience, the ones who do are the “queen bees”, if you see what I mean. Maybe the social structure itself has to change, rather that more women being able to make it in a structure that is based on a male model before “things” change substantially.
Hi Rayne!
Valley Girl @ 86
Wow, thanks for pointing that out Valley Girl, sterotyping was not the intent, and I’m glad you see that.
Thank you Rayne.
Late Nite fodder –
The personality types of Alpha, Beta, and Gamma have been identified — but who sez that’s all there is?
I understand Alpha (Leader!!!) and Beta (suck up #2!!!) but am clueless on Gammas. Still, is that all there is? How do these play out in personal identity (gender and otherwise) and social interactions?
Millineryman- thanks backatcha. You can probably figure out where I place myself on the continuum. But, god, I gotta say I love hats. Not to wear, just to admire. I’ve only recently discovered that FDL late nite continues onto FDL early morning aka the fabric thread. I really have to make the switch from being a night person to a morning person now that the school year has started, and I am hoping that the possibility of participating there (rather than reading after) will give me the incentive I need!
Rayne@88.. I don’t but it will change. I am beginning to think that it is an issue of being conservative rather than overt sexism. The same mentality that keeps recycling the same pro-sport coaches over and over.
As I said before, I have been supprised that, in my observations of educated professional women, that the differences with their male counterparts is not more divergent. Another example would be, why in hell would a single mom vote for a Republican? That is a real question and not snark.
Seems the world could use more strong women. Look what the strong men have given us.
Steve @ 95
Steve- this is what I was referring to re: “queen Bees” in my comment just after Raynes. I see the single mom’s voting republican as largely a different issue.
Hey VG! Been offline most of the weekend visiting the in-laws, missed you folks a bunch.
Only quibble I have, VG, is the separate-but-equal concept; we shouldn’t have to have a separate and different social model to create a structure that allows women to make it to the top. To some extent we already have one, with a majority of new business startups now owned-operated by women — and it’s not enough, hasn’t yet broken through. What I think needs to happen is for women to organize as they did in the 60’s and 70’s. They need to flex their muscle as investors and demand that boards of directors need to reflect the population of shareholders at large. They also need to flex their purchasing muscle, telling manufacturers that design teams that are not diverse are less likely to create products that meet the public’s needs. Believe me, automakers figured that out; they know more than half of all car sales are based on a woman’s decision. Really wish software companies grokked this…
Teddy — did that make sense, that lengthy blather? I sure hope so; it’s not the kind of thing that is easy to get across.
Frankly, it’s why many gay men and straight women do hit it off so well; they’re both “wired” for social network performance. See TRex’ comments about avoiding confrontation; it’s the nurture part of the nature-nurture equation that women are subjected to in their early socialization (i.e., “be a nice girl” “don’t make waves”). Straight men can’t see this as a measurable achievement (how does one compete on “niceness”?), consequently don’t see gays as equals any more than they do women.
Valley Girl I’m glad you love hats. I make them, admire them, and very seldom wear them.
It’s amazing the range of conversations that this community has. Good luck with that transition, as a night person I know how challenging it is.
Valley Girl@89 good response but I am beginning to question my previous opinions that women are conforming to male patterns in specific social or professional environments. I am way over my head here.
Florida Mom: that’s not fearlessness, that’s assertiveness.
Fearlessnes is something else.
Steve #96 — I’m with VG on the single-mom-Repug issue, it’s not the same as the other “glass ceiling/glass walls” issue.
I see single moms who vote Repug as 1) driven by fear, and 2) driven by ignorance. Unfortunately, there’s not much tissue between 1) and 2); fear is generally a response borne of ignorance.
Think soccer moms — they voted for security and went repug. How much time does the average soccer mom-type spend on educating themselves about politics, current affairs, foreign and domestic policy, etc.? If my college-grad accountant sister-in-law is an example, she spends NO time on this at all. Every waking moment is on the run, from getting kids ready for school to commuting to shuttling each of them to piano-dance-soccer-whatever. She’s a widow, too, easily scared about finances and anything else that she can’t control or about which she has no knowledge.
Gah. But her kids have both been moved to a better soccer team, isn’t that great???!!!
Mind-numbingly not with us. She’s on an altogether different plane of reality.
Hiya Rayne- hmmm… I am not sure where you got the idea that I was advocating for a separate-but-equal concept. Actually I agree with most of your 2nd paragraph. Except- I do see the kinds of changes that you are advocating (and good ones too) as a “different social model” from the one we have now. Terminology problem?
I remember a study that showed that salespeople (mostly guys) in stores like “ComputerMax” invariably focused on the men who came into the store, while ignoring the women. Turns out, however, that most of the guys were there just to check out the goodies, whereas the women who came to the store did so with the specific intent of making a purchase. If the guy sales people actually got it that the women were the “serious customers” and behaved accordingly, that to me could constitute a different social model!
Florida Mom @ 78
Florida Mom,
It happened to me at Altman’s in a different way. I am small and my friend was large. I was about to get married and she came with me to order china. I thought it was odd that there was this creep shadowing us through the store, and she said it always happened to her at Altman’s. I guess she wasn’t “their type of customer” and had to be followed…. KA-CHING dropped the penny… It’s not just sexism, it’s sizism and ageism and any damn “ism” you want to come up with. They ALL suck.
Steve @ 100
Steve- this is a very complex topic. My experience comes from being a female in academic science. I don’t have experience in business or other venues. However, you are absolutely correct imo about women conforming to male patterns, at least in the scientific mileu I have experienced. Often, this is the only way that they can survive professionally.
Oklahoma kiddo @
6
Men are still at the helm by default. Until the Information Age, brawn mattered. Thankfully, that is changing (too slowly) and hopefully, we will learn to judge by the “content of our character.”
In an information age, the organization that does not utilize half of its resources loses.
VG @ 86…now I understand why I have it so rough…I’m an idiosyncratic individual who (Rayne @ 83) has great problems with ‘enticing the horse to drink’ since I see a mule that requires being smacked with a 2 x 4 to get its attention. LOL.
I have considered having the word, LISTEN, tatooed on my forehead.
My theory…if they do listen and then acknowledge, they cede their power. And patriarchy doesn’t want to give up its power. That is why the Corporate World will keep that glass ceiling very solid.
I worked in that World and they made life miserable for me…and I understand that younger women today are facing the same non-listening male managers. I think the Corporate Structure needs to be smacked with a 2 x 4…it’s killing us….men, too.
Anyone remember the book, Games Mother Never Taught Me? It was a guide to women on succeeding in the corporation.
VG 104 — nah, we’re okay, I didn’t take it that you suggested a separate-but-equal solution. Except that is what is happening, with many women dropping out of management to start their own businesses because the existing social model for traditional business doesn’t work for them. Trying to crack the existing system from within the system isn’t working, neither is a separate one. I think we need a different angle.
And yes, it would be GREAT if companies actually looked at demographics and clued in to the nature of their real base. I’ve run into the very model you cited, a woman intent on buying technology only to be ignored for some mere boy with no money who wasn’t going to buy anything.
Valley Girl @ 106
This story in the WaPo was very interesting about perceptions of women vs men in the sciences. Neurologist Ben, formerly Barbara, Barres’ experiences would seem to indicate that it’s the gender, not the patterns.
Ha! Found the reference!
slade — heh. That’s funny; I’ve tried the 2×4 methodology to no avail, got nothing more than a jackass and firewood for my efforts.
They will only cede power if you tell them you will help them win. You will need to deliver, or they will hunt you down and squash you for making them look like a loser. Or at least that’s what worked in a traditional hierarchical patriarchy.
A more contemporary, egalitarian form of patriarchy might warm up to the idea of the entire team winning if you can “carry the ball” once; it’s a softer downside, but still has risk.
In either case, being fearless means simply TAKING the damned ball and running with it, proving your point.
What’s the worst that could happen anyhow? that we have George Bush for POTUS? Been there, done that, really can’t be far from the bottom.
I wonder if a part of the problem is the prevalence of social dominants in male hierarchies. Sara Robinson defines this term here. These are amoral people who will do whatever they need to do to obtain their desires. To do this,they must objectify people, treating others as if they were playing pieces instead of autonomous actors whose goals are worthy of respect. Even men who themselves are not social dominants harbor some sneaking respect for these people, which may help explain why they rise in hierarchies.
American culture makes it easier to dismiss or objectify women. Just take a look at the ads in the New York Times Magazine any Sunday. I think it is easier to objectify women than men. One reason may be that there is a much lower social sanction for objectifying women. Another possible reason is that men grow up being urged to resist bullies with physical force, and frequently do. So, when they get older, they are ready to resist with violence, or at least a socially acceptable form of violence. I know that when I think of some of the crap the current administration has done, I have to work to remind myself that politics is the replacement civilized people use instead of physical violence.
But these are just guesses at causes, and there is no real reason to think about causes. We all have to change to deal with these people, men and women.
Lately I have been thinking that as a nation, we did not fight off these people, and because we didn’t, they are running things. Who would believe that the flower child generation would be led by bullies when we got old?
Jane,
I love reading Arianna, Taylor, Christie and you. I love you exactly for your passion, your direct speech, your uncompromising sense of what is right and fair.
Don’t pull any punches on this man’s account. I love you all because of them, not in spite of them.
Jake
HotFlash @ 109
HotFlash- thanks much for mentioning that article. I was going to get into all of that, but just didn’t have the energy, because the reality of that has been draining.
Turns out that I read the WaPo article when it first came out- in Maine for a much needed vacation. Someone emailed me the link and I read it immediately- and almost cried. I was feeling particularly beaten down at that point, and just a little crazy. And then I read the article. Geez, I thought, I am NOT MAKING UP THIS SHIT! Ironic of course, that it suddenly became much more believeable to some I talked with, after a MAN said it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01883.html
~~After he underwent a sex change nine years ago at the age of 42, Barres recalled, another scientist who was unaware of it was heard to say, “Ben Barres gave a great seminar today, but then his work is much better than his sister’s.” []
“By far,” Barres wrote, “the main difference I have noticed is that people who don’t know I am transgendered treat me with much more respect” than when he was a woman. “I can even complete a whole sentence without being interrupted by a man.”~~~
Valley — I read that article and heard Barnes speak on NPR? That story is just so perfect. At so many different levels — not only the sexism, but also the smug self-importance that can only be bred by ignorance.
hey imm- luv ya.
Damn, this is quite a thread.
Being a recovering Republican myself, and having had my epiphany roughly around the time Arianna apparently had hers, she’s been kind of a hero to me for a while. Although I was vaguely aware of her back in her Christopher Huffington days, she really came on my radar during the Shadow Conventions leading up to the 2000 election. Anybody remember those? They seemed remarkable to me at the time and all the moreso now – it seems like she and the other Shadow Convention organizers were already trying to do what the netroots is slowly-but-surely doing now, without the benefit of the internet tools now available.
And I seriously love the accent. Especially when I get to hear it kicking Matt Miller’s candy ass on Left, Right, and Center.
I, too, was mildly tweaked by Jane’s conflation of wingnut-shillery on the part of women being equated with insufficient femininity. It is very much a cross that my sisters and I bear in our everyday lives. Any woman who shows uncharacteristic strength is often immediately slandered as inadequately female. This is a reinforcement of a restrictive binary, which I personally attempt to reject. I am a strong, capable person, female-identified, of transgendered experience.
transactivist — you are still on the road, yet, aren’t you, having a ways to travel?
As a progressive, female by birth, I understand entirely the challenge that specific female right-wing shills present; they use their femininity to promote what is essentially self-hatred and propaganda at the same time. It’s not unlike a number of gays who have supported the right on the matter of anti-gay marriage; it’s the self-hatred, not the gender that’s the issue. In spreading propaganda that demotes their gender, they are little more than proxies for misogynist men that prop them up.
Can you truly call these female right-wing shills sisters? Can you truly embrace their older “siblings” like Phyllis Schlafly and Anita Bryant? They’re not my sisters; quite the opposite.
Rayne @ 120
My apologies; allow me to clarify: when I said sisters, I meant ‘Sisters’, as in other Women Of Non-Traditional Origin, women of trans-experience, transwomen, etc. Very emphatically not right-wing hacks like those you (and the article above) mentioned. Sorry I was unclear.