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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-288928</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know I’m late to respond, but I was very moved by your post. I’m a former firefighter and I drove from Boston to NYC shortly after the towers fell to help in any way I could. I spent a month at ground zero and I spent every one of those days in complete and utter disbelief. I saw the absolute best and the absolute worst in humanity confounded and amplified by my terror and my exhaustion and my confusion. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see heroes every day. I think of all those who serve in silence. I think about how I deliver the mail and bring coffee to the old lady down the hall who thinks gays are modern day pariahs. I’m gay and yet I’m the only one in the building who will talk to her. Any person who gets up every day and puts on a uniform and a badge (military, police, fire) are heroes even if they are flawed in their motives. Even in the face of 9/11, I believe no one person is completely evil. Sometimes I am shocked that I have any nievete left and yet I mutter comments like that one. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I long for the greatness that we could be and I am hopeful for a groundswell of people who believe the same. We were founded on that principle and it’s time to take our country back. It’s not too late.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I’m late to respond, but I was very moved by your post. I’m a former firefighter and I drove from Boston to NYC shortly after the towers fell to help in any way I could. I spent a month at ground zero and I spent every one of those days in complete and utter disbelief. I saw the absolute best and the absolute worst in humanity confounded and amplified by my terror and my exhaustion and my confusion. </p>
<p>I see heroes every day. I think of all those who serve in silence. I think about how I deliver the mail and bring coffee to the old lady down the hall who thinks gays are modern day pariahs. I’m gay and yet I’m the only one in the building who will talk to her. Any person who gets up every day and puts on a uniform and a badge (military, police, fire) are heroes even if they are flawed in their motives. Even in the face of 9/11, I believe no one person is completely evil. Sometimes I am shocked that I have any nievete left and yet I mutter comments like that one. </p>
<p>I long for the greatness that we could be and I am hopeful for a groundswell of people who believe the same. We were founded on that principle and it’s time to take our country back. It’s not too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy L</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-286614</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzy L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I live in California now, but I was born and brought up in New York. Mrsmarks #29, thank you for your post, and Christy thank you, too. I do not hate George Bush personally, I hate what he and Karl Rove have done to my country. I am proud of my country. I am proud of our Constitution, of our legal system, our ideals, our determination to fix it when we get it wrong, and to stay together no matter what — hell, we fought a terrible, bitter civil war over one of those wrongs, and stayed together. Please God we can do it again. The Republicans in their vicious pursuit of Bill Clinton and their mean-spirited and divisive political tactics have driven us apart from each other. We need to find a way to come back together. I believe we can. For the sake of all of us, for our children, we should be working together, disagreeing respectfully but looking for and finding common ground.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in California now, but I was born and brought up in New York. Mrsmarks #29, thank you for your post, and Christy thank you, too. I do not hate George Bush personally, I hate what he and Karl Rove have done to my country. I am proud of my country. I am proud of our Constitution, of our legal system, our ideals, our determination to fix it when we get it wrong, and to stay together no matter what — hell, we fought a terrible, bitter civil war over one of those wrongs, and stayed together. Please God we can do it again. The Republicans in their vicious pursuit of Bill Clinton and their mean-spirited and divisive political tactics have driven us apart from each other. We need to find a way to come back together. I believe we can. For the sake of all of us, for our children, we should be working together, disagreeing respectfully but looking for and finding common ground.</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn urban</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-286311</link>
		<dc:creator>carolyn urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meta said:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;- I try to think about the day when all of that horrible hatred I feel inside of me is lifted. When our long national nightmare will be over. When we will again be free of this mushroom cloud of dogma and deceit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’ll be when chimp and cheney and their henchmen are lead handcuffed to face trial at the Hague.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Think about it. We must have big parades planned for that day. Whenever it comes, we must really joyously celebrate that day. Because it will truly, truly be a day of liberation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember the last scene of StarWars?  When Luke Skywalker finally defeats the evil empire and the entire planet, the entire &lt;em&gt;galaxy&lt;/em&gt;, erupt into a gigantic champagne guzzling boogying down party?  That’ll be us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meta said:
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<blockquote><p>- I try to think about the day when all of that horrible hatred I feel inside of me is lifted. When our long national nightmare will be over. When we will again be free of this mushroom cloud of dogma and deceit.</p></blockquote>
<p>That’ll be when chimp and cheney and their henchmen are lead handcuffed to face trial at the Hague.</p>
<blockquote><p>Think about it. We must have big parades planned for that day. Whenever it comes, we must really joyously celebrate that day. Because it will truly, truly be a day of liberation.</p>
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<p>Remember the last scene of StarWars?  When Luke Skywalker finally defeats the evil empire and the entire planet, the entire <em>galaxy</em>, erupt into a gigantic champagne guzzling boogying down party?  That’ll be us.</p>
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		<title>By: Strategerie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-286091</link>
		<dc:creator>Strategerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was across the country and thirty miles east of Seattle on September 11, 2001. It was 7:15 a.m. My husband had just left for the office, and I was dozing a bit before I got up to take a shower and start the day. The phone rang. It was him. I’ve never heard his tone of voice before or since, and all he said was, “Turn on the TV.” I’ll never forget standing upstairs in our house, clutching the phone to my ear, looking at the television and thinking I must have been hallucinating — this &lt;em&gt;couldn’t&lt;/em&gt; be real, could it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A year later, I met a local broadcaster that had been staying in the Millennium Hotel with her husband that day. She kept calling Seattle that morning to talk to one of her radio colleagues currently on the air about what was happening, what she was seeing, etcetera. She talked to me for two hours the day I met her about what had happened to her and her family as a result of their experiences on September 11, 2001. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think about what she told me every day. I think about the fact that she spent two hours sitting in a furniture store with someone who was a complete stranger to her, holding my hands, and tears streaming down her cheeks. I think about the kind of pain there must be for millions surrounding this day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;None of us will ever be the same as we were on September 10, 2001. I’m not sure anyone could ever accurately chronicle what happened to us, and to our country, on that day. I’m wondering how I’m going to commemmorate those that died, and those that are still suffering. One thing’s for sure, I don’t need ABC and Disney to tell me how to mourn.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-S&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was across the country and thirty miles east of Seattle on September 11, 2001. It was 7:15 a.m. My husband had just left for the office, and I was dozing a bit before I got up to take a shower and start the day. The phone rang. It was him. I’ve never heard his tone of voice before or since, and all he said was, “Turn on the TV.” I’ll never forget standing upstairs in our house, clutching the phone to my ear, looking at the television and thinking I must have been hallucinating — this <em>couldn’t</em> be real, could it?</p>
<p>A year later, I met a local broadcaster that had been staying in the Millennium Hotel with her husband that day. She kept calling Seattle that morning to talk to one of her radio colleagues currently on the air about what was happening, what she was seeing, etcetera. She talked to me for two hours the day I met her about what had happened to her and her family as a result of their experiences on September 11, 2001. </p>
<p>I think about what she told me every day. I think about the fact that she spent two hours sitting in a furniture store with someone who was a complete stranger to her, holding my hands, and tears streaming down her cheeks. I think about the kind of pain there must be for millions surrounding this day.</p>
<p>None of us will ever be the same as we were on September 10, 2001. I’m not sure anyone could ever accurately chronicle what happened to us, and to our country, on that day. I’m wondering how I’m going to commemmorate those that died, and those that are still suffering. One thing’s for sure, I don’t need ABC and Disney to tell me how to mourn.</p>
<p>-S</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGrendel</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-286019</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGrendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I think of patriotism and what it means to be an American I think of my grandfathers.  One of them missed his highschool graduation because he was being sent up to North Carolina to train for the Pacific Theatre.  Like the other 90% of soldiers in WWII he did not see battle, but he did volunteer to leave the comfort of his home in Nauvoo, Alabama (yes- it is as rural as you think) and ship up to North Carolina and then off to the Pacific.  He did that because he believed in this country and believed in fighting for its ideals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My other grandfather was the holiest man I have ever met in my life.  He was not able to serve in WWII because of health problems, but he is the very figure of moral authority in my mind.  He was strict, but fair and always taught his children and grandchildren the wonder of faith.  But he was not evangelical.  To him faith was a personal matter and he would talk Jesus with you all day long but he would not condemn or proselytize.  He taught me respect for God and respect for other people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They both raised children in America and loved this country more than anything.  When I think of patriots or what it is to be American, I cannot help but think of the country that allowed two men to become what they did become.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of patriotism and what it means to be an American I think of my grandfathers.  One of them missed his highschool graduation because he was being sent up to North Carolina to train for the Pacific Theatre.  Like the other 90% of soldiers in WWII he did not see battle, but he did volunteer to leave the comfort of his home in Nauvoo, Alabama (yes- it is as rural as you think) and ship up to North Carolina and then off to the Pacific.  He did that because he believed in this country and believed in fighting for its ideals.</p>
<p>My other grandfather was the holiest man I have ever met in my life.  He was not able to serve in WWII because of health problems, but he is the very figure of moral authority in my mind.  He was strict, but fair and always taught his children and grandchildren the wonder of faith.  But he was not evangelical.  To him faith was a personal matter and he would talk Jesus with you all day long but he would not condemn or proselytize.  He taught me respect for God and respect for other people.</p>
<p>They both raised children in America and loved this country more than anything.  When I think of patriots or what it is to be American, I cannot help but think of the country that allowed two men to become what they did become.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-285980</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marco, that’s a beautiful thing you wrote today — just beautiful.  Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco, that’s a beautiful thing you wrote today — just beautiful.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-285975</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A touching post. It gets us out of the mire, like the 911 gop-u-drama and the manipulation of patriotism in the recent wave of speeches. I think the most destructive part of the post-911 era is the confusion the Administration has infused into things like our flag or our slogans. It’ll be a long time before we’ll get them back right.  Thanks for rising above the din…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A touching post. It gets us out of the mire, like the 911 gop-u-drama and the manipulation of patriotism in the recent wave of speeches. I think the most destructive part of the post-911 era is the confusion the Administration has infused into things like our flag or our slogans. It’ll be a long time before we’ll get them back right.  Thanks for rising above the din…</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-285970</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alison, I’m really surprised to see your “slagging Canada” and “Don’t blame Canada” phrases, because I’ve never seen anything remotely like Canada-blaming on this on any other FDL thread.  I &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; our many Canadians Firepups will back me up on that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison, I’m really surprised to see your “slagging Canada” and “Don’t blame Canada” phrases, because I’ve never seen anything remotely like Canada-blaming on this on any other FDL thread.  I <em>think</em> our many Canadians Firepups will back me up on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohioan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-285935</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohioan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Karen Allen @ 145 said:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Ohioan: I don’t get a chance to get on here as much as I used to. Are you working any campaigns in Ohio?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not yet.  I live in Ohio - 3, which has to have a special Democratic primary this month.  I did some canvassing for Jane Mitakides in 2004, but I haven’t sorted out whether that’s the best option again this time around.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen Allen @ 145 said:
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<blockquote><p>Ohioan: I don’t get a chance to get on here as much as I used to. Are you working any campaigns in Ohio?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not yet.  I live in Ohio &#8211; 3, which has to have a special Democratic primary this month.  I did some canvassing for Jane Mitakides in 2004, but I haven’t sorted out whether that’s the best option again this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn urban</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/pull-up-a-chair-13/#comment-285908</link>
		<dc:creator>carolyn urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 17:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;mrsmarks:  beautiful comment @ 29  - I can see I’m going to have to work my way through the comments in small doses.  Only so much weeping I can take at a time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mrsmarks:  beautiful comment @ 29  &#8211; I can see I’m going to have to work my way through the comments in small doses.  Only so much weeping I can take at a time.</p>
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